WEBVTT - Is the Pope A Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>a list of questions that ant Man has put together

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<v Speaker 1>from that I have not even glanced at them. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'll sneak a peek and see what I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I know nothing about what this is about

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<v Speaker 1>to what I'm about to get into with these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll do that. And before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to address something that has been talked about

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit on social media. Maybe you've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you haven't depending on your algorithm, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis. Pope Francis made a comment, a public comment,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people have kind of engaged with this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't plan on getting into the weeds with

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<v Speaker 1>this at all, but I think it's important. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to use it maybe unlike a lot of other people have.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to use it as a maybe like a

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<v Speaker 1>teaching tool. We'll put it that way. This came through

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<v Speaker 1>one week ago from when I'm reading it. Yeah, six

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<v Speaker 1>days from when I'm reading it. It says this. It

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<v Speaker 1>says Pope Francis to children and say, quote, all religions

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<v Speaker 1>are paths to reach God. They are to make a comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>like different languages, different dialects to get there. But God

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<v Speaker 1>is God for everyone. If you start to fight saying

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<v Speaker 1>my religion is more important than yours. Mine is true

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<v Speaker 1>and yours isn't, where will that lead us? There is

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<v Speaker 1>only one God, and each of us has a language

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive at God. Some are Sheikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>They are all different ways to God. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have engaged with this comment, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not Christian to say that it's not orthodox, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not classic theism in any way. It's never been taught

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Ever. That is very much an outside of

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<v Speaker 1>orthodox thought for the Catholic Church, for anybody that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>claimed themselves to be Christians. They have never said that

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<v Speaker 1>all religions lead to God. And the reason they have

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<v Speaker 1>never said that is because the Bible never says that,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus specifically never said it something I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we all think John fourteen six, when Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>says I am the Way, the Truth, and the life.

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<v Speaker 1>No one comes to the Father except by me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the many exclusive passages that Jesus talks about

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible. There are many, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>teaching tools I want to say, and what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to present to you as you're listening to this is

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<v Speaker 1>for you to find more of the exclusivity of Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>as it's sometimes talked about Christ in many ways, as

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<v Speaker 1>we read his words, is very exclusive, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just John fourteen six. The only way Jesus taught is

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<v Speaker 1>that He's the only way, and there is never what

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis is speaking here about universalism. There is never

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of universeism in Jesus. Now, the call of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospel from Jesus goes out to all, the call

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<v Speaker 1>from the disciples, and still the call that we as

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<v Speaker 1>evangelicals preach and teach today goes to all people, of

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<v Speaker 1>all tribes, of all tongues. It is indiscriminate to all people.

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<v Speaker 1>The call is available. The offer is available for freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>for redemption, for forgiveness, for healing, for hope, for adoption

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<v Speaker 1>as sons to the King of Kings. That offer is

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to the ends of the earth, to all

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<v Speaker 1>people indiscriminately. But the exclusivity of Christ means that there

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<v Speaker 1>is only one way to God. And so God loved

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<v Speaker 1>the world enough to give us his son so that

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<v Speaker 1>we would have a way to him. But he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>provide a bunch of ways. Now that opens up a

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<v Speaker 1>whole can of worms of many, many, many other discussions.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's even the thought of that opens up all

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<v Speaker 1>these other ideas like, well, what happens to the so

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<v Speaker 1>and so, what happens to this person of here, And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of ways to think about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>once again, another podcast another time we can get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, the way we think about it is well,

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<v Speaker 1>I better get out there and tell as many people

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<v Speaker 1>about the good news as I possibly can. That should

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<v Speaker 1>instead of instead of driving us to look inward and say, ugh,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds really exclusive. Instead it should drive us outward

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<v Speaker 1>and say, I better get out and tell people about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are people that don't know about him yet,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know about the only one way, the one

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<v Speaker 1>way to God, and I need to tell him. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not based on how well I tell him or

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<v Speaker 1>how pretty my words are to come out. The word

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<v Speaker 1>is given to us with the Bible. We already have

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospel. We already have the word of God that

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<v Speaker 1>goes out sharper than any two edged sword, piercing to

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<v Speaker 1>the division of soul and of spirit. And we know

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<v Speaker 1>that that word goes out and pierces for us. So

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<v Speaker 1>all we do is proclaim it and tell people to

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<v Speaker 1>believe and repent, turn from themselves and believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>only one way to God, which is Jesus. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one way to look at it. The other the other

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<v Speaker 1>way to look at it is God is just. God

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<v Speaker 1>is holy, and God is loving and God will miss none.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we start, we have a tendency sometimes to

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<v Speaker 1>think that God is gonna God is unjust and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss a bunch of people because he only provided

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<v Speaker 1>this one exclusive way. And to that, I say, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows the mind of God God word? His word goes

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<v Speaker 1>out and does not return empty. It will succeed in

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<v Speaker 1>the very purpose by which he sent it. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no unsuccessful peace of God. Whatever he's doing and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he purposes will happen the way that he wants it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. His word will go out. And so let's

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<v Speaker 1>let that the exclusivity of Christ inspire us to have

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<v Speaker 1>an urgency to tell people that don't know about Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's tell them about him. And the people that do know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's reinforce more of who he is so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could they could then go outward and find that urgency

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<v Speaker 1>for the lost. That's what we should do. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>final thought. Once again, my homework assignment for you is

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<v Speaker 1>to go beyond John fourteen six and look at all

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<v Speaker 1>the other exclusive claims, not just of what Jesus says

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<v Speaker 1>written in the red letters, as some Bibles have, but

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<v Speaker 1>what the all sixty six books of the Bible say

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<v Speaker 1>pointing towards the exclusivity of the Messiah. All of it

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<v Speaker 1>points towards that, and even if Jesus didn't say it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the word of God. And Jesus is the

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<v Speaker 1>second member of the Trinity, so Jesus is God. So

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<v Speaker 1>just because Jesus didn't say it, remember that Jesus said

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<v Speaker 1>himself that Moses was talking about him, the prophets were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about him. So every word in the Bible essentially

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<v Speaker 1>is God's word, which is Jesus's word, not just the

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<v Speaker 1>red letters. That's why I'm kind of against red letter Bibles,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. But here's the final thought. This is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the first thought I had when I read this,

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<v Speaker 1>because the exclusivity of Christ is obvious, it's very clear

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<v Speaker 1>in scripture. But the first thing I thought of is

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<v Speaker 1>that the pope says he makes a huge mistake here,

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<v Speaker 1>because the pope says God is God for everyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he says there is only one God, and each

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<v Speaker 1>of us has a language to arrive at God. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes to name a few random religions, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them being Hindu. Hindus don't believe there's one God.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't believe that, so that's an insult to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hindu religion. You see, like Pope Francis in his effort

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<v Speaker 1>to be universal, is self corrupting. In his offer to

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<v Speaker 1>be universal, he's condemning the Hindus because they believe in many,

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<v Speaker 1>many gods. So to tell them that it's okay, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you believe will lead to the one God. And to them,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going, I have many gods. That's an insult to

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<v Speaker 1>me for you to tell me that there's only one God.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Pope, in his way to be like ever loving,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not the definition of love at all, he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually deeply offending people of the Hindu faith. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I wanted to talk about and talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, I wanted to address it quickly, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should get into some questions. And the first

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<v Speaker 1>one comes from Anonymous. It says once again the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is podcast at grangersmith dot com. And the first question

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<v Speaker 1>from Anonymous says, Hey, Granger, I appreciate everything you stand

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<v Speaker 1>for and I love listening to the podcast for godly advice.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is how do I encourage my friend to

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<v Speaker 1>stop having sex with her boyfriend until they get married.

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<v Speaker 1>They are both Christians and my friend wanted to save

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<v Speaker 1>herself for marriage, but I recently found out that she didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been married for two years. My husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I saved ourself for marriage, and I know how hard

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<v Speaker 1>that was. They both want to get married but won't

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. They are nineteen and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I care about them, and I want God's will and

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<v Speaker 1>blessing for their lives. I've been seeking the Lord and

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<v Speaker 1>searching his word for encouragement I could pass along. Should

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<v Speaker 1>I just mind my own business? Please let me know

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion. Thanks so much. Okay, let's dive into this. Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for emailing. I don't think you said your age,

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<v Speaker 1>but you sound you're probably pretty young as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have this couple. They're friends of yours, and

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the girl you want her to stop having sex

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<v Speaker 1>with her boyfriend until they get married, and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to save herself. So the first thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful with, as I read it, is the first thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing we want to do in this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation is judge and compare. Now, obviously, sex outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the covenant of marriage, a godly marriage. Sex outside

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<v Speaker 1>of that is a sin and the first thought we

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<v Speaker 1>want to do is go I didn't do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>saved myself and it was really hard, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Instead. We should, as Jesus would teach, we

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<v Speaker 1>should look at the log in her own eye before

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<v Speaker 1>we start messing with a speck in her friend's eye.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we should look. We should look at our

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<v Speaker 1>own sin. It's interesting that earlier about Poste Francis, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about where it should make us look outward, But

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<v Speaker 1>when we see sin, it should make us look inward,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, looking at the cross itself of Jesus and

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<v Speaker 1>what he did to die for sin to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive us with the blood of the son of God.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what he did on the cross became the

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<v Speaker 1>substitute for us, taking on the sin of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the sins of the world, being separated from God, taking

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<v Speaker 1>on the sins of the world upon his own body,

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<v Speaker 1>that we might be redeemed. When we look at that,

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<v Speaker 1>that should make us opposite of pote francis. That should

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<v Speaker 1>make us look inward at our own sin and hate

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<v Speaker 1>it and think, oh I am that sin that put

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus on the cross. So when you look at your

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<v Speaker 1>friend you go, Yeah, she's having sex with her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Shame on her, which is a sin. You're right, but

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<v Speaker 1>we should we should first look inward and go. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same sin I struggle with. I didn't, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't act on it in the same way. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>manifest in my marriage like this. But I have many

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<v Speaker 1>other sins that have manifested, maybe other sins that my

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<v Speaker 1>friend doesn't struggle with that I do. And Lord, please

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me this by your blood of the cross. I

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<v Speaker 1>look to you, by your sacrifice. You know, we should.

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<v Speaker 1>We should direct our gaze at Jesus, knowing that he's

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<v Speaker 1>the forgiver of sins, knowing that he was sent to

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<v Speaker 1>sent to earth to save sinners, not to save the

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<v Speaker 1>righteous people. He came to save sinners, like my friend

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<v Speaker 1>and like me. So always include yourself that that protects

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<v Speaker 1>you from becoming unnecessarily judgmental. Now we should judge according

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<v Speaker 1>to how we we need to be judged. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>but if you, if you are without, then throw a stone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I don't think that's you, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not me. So what do we do with this?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do? You're like, Okay, Granger. Well, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend's obviously in sin, and sin when it's fully matured,

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<v Speaker 1>leads to death, and I see death all over my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do. You're saying, be careful not to

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<v Speaker 1>judge her, because you're full of sin too. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I say this without saying this out loud. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that you say they're both Christians because because being reborn

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian, not a cultural Christian, but a believer. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was traveling in Israel here just a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting that a lot of people, one percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population, not a lot one percent of the population,

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<v Speaker 1>call themselves Christians. But I noticed that in that one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the Christians in Israel, most of them aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just cultural. They're not Muslim, and they're not jew

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<v Speaker 1>and they're the ones that you know, do the cross thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the Virgin Mary thing. So they're not really Christians. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just their culture. Very few of them, and they use

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<v Speaker 1>the word believer. Very few of them are believers, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>they're born again. Like according to John three, when Jesus says, truly, truly,

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<v Speaker 1>I say to you, unless one is born again, he

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<v Speaker 1>cannot see the kingdom. So I'm talking about born again believers.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's who your friends are, then the sin of

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<v Speaker 1>having sexual relations outside of marriage will start eating at

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<v Speaker 1>them and they will turn in repentance back to God

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<v Speaker 1>and say, well, we got to stop this because I

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<v Speaker 1>just it just creeps me out. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not right, and I love you, and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to get married as soon as possible, because having the

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<v Speaker 1>sexual relations with each other, this lustful relationship, is outside

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<v Speaker 1>of God's promise and God hates that. It's sin. And

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<v Speaker 1>so because God hates that, I hate it too, and

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<v Speaker 1>it creeps me out. I can't sleep at night knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not right with God. So I want to repent.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to turn to him. That's what repentance means

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<v Speaker 1>and stop this so that that's that's how a Christian feels,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how a Christian thinks. That's what drives a Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, how do you what do you mean drives

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian? I mean these are things that that self

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<v Speaker 1>conscious feeling of I'm in sin right now starts to

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<v Speaker 1>just erode your mind and you have to you have

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<v Speaker 1>to turn away from it. Now. The what accelerates repentance

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<v Speaker 1>actually really what initiates the repentance is God through his word,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this could mean that they are believers, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are so poorly discipled. The word of God is

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<v Speaker 1>not being poured into them. They're not in a healthy church,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one is preaching God's word to them, So

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't it hasn't kicked in this repentance. They would

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a passage like Ephesians four seventeen through thirty two.

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<v Speaker 1>They would listen to a block of scripture like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or in the Book of Hebrews when you hear the

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<v Speaker 1>warning passages or any of the sexual sin passages. There's

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds thousands. Maybe they would hear that and go, uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me. I better get out of this. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry God, I have Psalm fifty one failed you.

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<v Speaker 1>So that could be, But I don't think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>story here. I think because the more common thing is

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<v Speaker 1>they're just actually not born again believes. They just they're

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<v Speaker 1>cultural Christians and it's unfortunate. But so what do I

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<v Speaker 1>still have told you what to do? Because you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>grandear what I do? Especially if they're cultural Christians. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you can't do is go to them and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all shouldn't be having sex right now, because that that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really change anything. Like at that point, you just

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a mom or a dad. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who you are because you're anonymous, but you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a mom or dad. Instead, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get the word of God in front of them. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell them the gospel. You want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them about what Jesus did on the cross to die

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<v Speaker 1>for sin. And once they get a grasp of what

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<v Speaker 1>that means, that Jesus died for sin so that we

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<v Speaker 1>could live free, so we could be forgiven. Once they

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<v Speaker 1>get a grasp of that, and they realize they're sinning

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<v Speaker 1>the very sin that put Jesus on the cross, that

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<v Speaker 1>the sin that he freed them from, they're going back

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<v Speaker 1>to it like like an old pair of clothes that

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<v Speaker 1>they've moved on from that, and they're going and they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting them on this this old, dirty garment again that

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus died for that. You would say, Jesus died for

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Nails driven through his hands and his

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<v Speaker 1>feet hung on that cross, and he died for what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing right now. You want to keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Word of God will convict them in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>not you, And so you want to get them in

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<v Speaker 1>a church, a solid Bible teaching church that teaches expositionally,

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<v Speaker 1>that walks through scripture, not topics, not man made and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope you feel better about yourself topics.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna we're gonna pick up where we left

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<v Speaker 1>off last week in the in the book of wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are in the Bible, and the preacher walks through

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<v Speaker 1>a block of scripture and then applies it to the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of the people listening. So here's here's what the

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<v Speaker 1>the original author meant, and here's how we could take

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<v Speaker 1>that truth and apply it to our modern lives today

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. And you do that Sunday after

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday and you're meeting with people in the church and

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<v Speaker 1>they go, how's your week going, And then you start thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I had sex with my girlfriend last night. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell anybody, but it's really starting to bother me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is how it begins to happen without

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<v Speaker 1>you even saying it, without you saying, hey, you stop

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with your girlfriend. Let the word of God convict them.

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<v Speaker 1>Put the Gospel on full display in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Let it do it, Let it do its work, and

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<v Speaker 1>and enter your credit card number and go to the

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Shopify comes in and they are the mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>Our next question comes from Joe once again all I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't read these at all. This is all on the

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<v Speaker 1>fly this episode completely. Joe says, Hey, good evening, Granger.

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<v Speaker 1>I have read your book Like a River and been

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<v Speaker 1>following your podcast recently and they've really inspired me. A

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<v Speaker 1>question I have though, is about faith. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>good relationship with God and strong faith, yet things seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be harder than ever and only getting harder in

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<v Speaker 1>life in general, and it just doesn't seem like I

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<v Speaker 1>can catch a break. I guess my question is, if

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<v Speaker 1>I have such a good relationship with God, why is

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<v Speaker 1>it so hard? Hey, Joe, thanks for the email. Man great,

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<v Speaker 1>great question, and thank you for reading the book, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for thank you for thinking through this, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we see in a daily digestion of

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<v Speaker 1>God's word, as we start to see that God doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily put in front of us a nice, little happy life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not his intention. And somehow we've gotten that

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<v Speaker 1>impression that people who love God and God loves them

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<v Speaker 1>and have a good relationship as you say, with God,

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<v Speaker 1>that he provides them with a nice, happy life that's

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<v Speaker 1>full of good meals and low debt and a roof

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<v Speaker 1>over your head and a happy family. And people around

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't getting sick as much as they used to

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you weren't a Christian. People are people are just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit nicer to you than when you used

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<v Speaker 1>to be an unbeliever. These things just aren't true, and

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<v Speaker 1>you see it clearly in the Bible. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times when people in the Bible, like in the Book

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<v Speaker 1>of Acts or any of the letters from the Apostles,

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<v Speaker 1>which is these are the letters that happened after the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Acts in the Bible, in the New Testament.

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<v Speaker 1>These are letters from different apostles to different people or

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<v Speaker 1>different churches for different reasons. And through those letters you

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<v Speaker 1>see that sometimes people when they became a Christian, life

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<v Speaker 1>actually got harder for them. That still happens to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Jesus says, in this world you will have trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, right, He doesn't say in this world you

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<v Speaker 1>may have trouble. He doesn't say in this world some

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<v Speaker 1>of you could have trouble. He says, in this world

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<v Speaker 1>you will have trouble, trials, tribulation. But then the next

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<v Speaker 1>part of the of the verse is the most important part.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, but take heart, I have overcome the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this world you're gonna have trouble. Ah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it, because I've overcome that. I've already beat that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've defeated that, I have victory over that. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's interesting. He's saying. This game is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be tough. It's like if you're a football player and

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<v Speaker 1>you go into the you go into the season and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, man, we have we have a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about this year. And you go into

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<v Speaker 1>a game and you're battling it out right, You're this

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<v Speaker 1>team that you're playing is just crushing. You got guys

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<v Speaker 1>getting injured, you get you know, the weather's bad, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get good footing because it's raining. Guys are dropping passes,

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<v Speaker 1>people are missing their blocks. You go into the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room at halftime tied, and the coach goes, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win this game, and so there's something about that. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we're gonna have trouble, but we know we win.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we win in the end. So knowing that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you go into the next game and go, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope this next game is easy. Not necessarily. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably gonna have trouble, but we know we're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>So what if you applied this to your life right

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<v Speaker 1>now and you go, well, I know that according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible, following Jesus doesn't make my life more prosperous,

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<v Speaker 1>or or I don't get more money in the account,

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<v Speaker 1>my worries don't just start to fall away just magically

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<v Speaker 1>because I become a believer. Because what if they did right?

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<v Speaker 1>What if they did all this hypothetical What if when

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<v Speaker 1>you became a believer, life suddenly became easier. Imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>way God would set this up. Right. We can't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the mind of God, but let's think about it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just contemplate for a second. God sets up the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and if someone becomes a believer, life gets easy for him.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens to the person? Naturally they stop relying on God,

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<v Speaker 1>their prayer, life gets stagnant. They slowly drift away into

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of complacency. That's not what God would want, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But what drives us to God? Let's think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes most people, most of the time turn to

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<v Speaker 1>God and say, God, Please, where are you help me?

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<v Speaker 1>Times of trouble, the trouble that Jesus says, in this

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<v Speaker 1>world you will have trouble, But take heart, I've overcome

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<v Speaker 1>the world sixteen forty four by the way, So most

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<v Speaker 1>people turn to God, they get they feel closer to

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<v Speaker 1>God in the times of chaos, not the good times

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<v Speaker 1>when you're having a really good day and things are

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<v Speaker 1>going great, and everything seems to be falling into place,

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>you probably pray less. Right And then when things like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Joe, when things are piling on in life

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like you just can't catch a break,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, things are piling on one after another,

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<v Speaker 1>you get another phone call, it's bad news. You get

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<v Speaker 1>in your truck and there's the check engine light. You

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>get home and your wife is mad, and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't catch a break, And you go, God, Please,

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 1>where are you? Please? God? I need you today. I

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>realize that I own nothing without you. I'm so weak,

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so frail. I can't even succeed in anything I'm doing,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>can't I can't even get my wife to like me today. Please, God,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>have mercy on me. God, pour your grace unto me.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what. Guess what happens. Suddenly you're closer and

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>closer to Him, right where you need to be. And

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>then that night you pull out your Bible, you knock

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<v Speaker 1>some dust off the top of it, and you open

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>it up and you go to a place like John

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<v Speaker 1>one And in the beginning was the Word, and the

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<v Speaker 1>word was with God, and the Word was God, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the beginning with God, and you start

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<v Speaker 1>reading more and more in you and and that word,

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you just let that word pour over you, and you pause.

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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while you pause and go, Lord, Lord,

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you made yourself known. You made yourself known in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you Will you comfort me with the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comfort you give these these men and these women

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<v Speaker 1>in this book right here, the same promises that you

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<v Speaker 1>gave them that I know you're a promise keeper. Will you?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you have mercy on me? Will you give me

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>these promises? Not that you're going to erase the trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could have the confidence that I know you

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>overcame the trouble in this world. I know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna put out the fire. I'm walking through this

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>house and everything's burning, and I know you're not just

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna put out the fire, but I know you're gonna

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>walk me through it, because I'll be better for walking

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>through the fire. I think about it like this a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was an author and I was writing a book,

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<v Speaker 1>a novel, a fictional book, and I wanted you to

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<v Speaker 1>read it, and I left out the bad character. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no bad guy. It's just a good guy. And he

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<v Speaker 1>lives his life and everything's nice. You'd be like, grated,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst book I've ever read my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say why because there's no trouble, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy, there's no adversary, there's nothing for the good

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<v Speaker 1>guy to beat. There's nothing for him in the end

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate victory. And you cry, and you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the last chapter and you go, he did it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everything came back together. The bad guy's defeated. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so worried, and then he pulled it through, and then

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the story's so beautiful. That's what you say about a book,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what you say about a movie. And yet when

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it comes to your life, you say, why can't I

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<v Speaker 1>catch a break? I thought if I had a good

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship with God, he would give me a break. You

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying. These are all things to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question comes from anonymous says, Hey Granger, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be a huge country fan of yours. It's rare

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to find Christian artist anymore, so to see you glorifying

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<v Speaker 1>God in this podcast is great for me. So my

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<v Speaker 1>question is what do I do if some of my

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<v Speaker 1>church leader, if one of my church leaders is operating

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<v Speaker 1>in the Leviathan Jezebel spirits, some or not, but some are.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the problem in the church right now due

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<v Speaker 1>to political reasons in the world, infiltrating the church. How

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<v Speaker 1>do I chase the call of the Lord on my

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<v Speaker 1>life running a church podcast. I'm very frowned upon due

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to having epilepsy. And they will attack me. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus says I was persecuted, so you will as you

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<v Speaker 1>believe in me. Thanks for your guidance. WHOA, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about it. Let me read this again.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, what do I do if some of my

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<v Speaker 1>church leadership is operating in the Leviathan Jezebel spirits? Some

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>are not, some are. This is the problem in the

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<v Speaker 1>church right now, due to political reasons in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrating the church. How do I still chase the call

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord of my life running a church podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very frowned upon due to having epilepsy. Okay, I'm sorry,

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I just read. I just read that too fast the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. But I think I'm following you. You run

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<v Speaker 1>the church podcast like you're the guy that's like producing

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it or recording it something like that. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that you mean, but some of the church leadership

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<v Speaker 1>is operating in the Leviathan Jeesubville spirits. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's the devil, right, like a Jezebelle spirit would

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<v Speaker 1>be Satan would be the enemy infiltrating the church leadership.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And so it just I think we can't overthink this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're in the wrong church now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging people to they get a feeling, they get to

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>they getta they go off on a whim and just

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<v Speaker 1>leave their church because they have a bad feeling about

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>things like this needs to be talked through. But you

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<v Speaker 1>would need to go to one of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys in leadership and just be like, hey, I have

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<v Speaker 1>some problems. I'm running this church podcast, and yet I

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>see this going on in leadership. And there's nothing wrong.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>By the way, there's no judgment in that. There's there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with sitting down against with church leadership because

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you are in leadership as well. If you're running a

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>church podcast, that's absolutely church leadership. So there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with you sitting down with fellow members of church leadership

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, look, this is what I see am I

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<v Speaker 1>am I wrong in seeing this, and some of the

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>guys might say, wow, I didn't even know that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get on this. And some of them

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<v Speaker 1>they say, you're crazy. Look the other way, and to

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<v Speaker 1>that you leave the church. I think. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is if you're hanging on for this podcast, then the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is completely undermined by bad leadership, then it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you I don't know enough information, but

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you probably should leave the church. Next

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<v Speaker 1>question comes from Luke. Hey, mister Smith, my name is Leroy,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and I just said Luke, so that maybe that's a nickname.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Leroy. I'm eighteen years old and I

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<v Speaker 1>work for a company that builds chicken and hogbarns. I

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<v Speaker 1>recently have been thinking about my Christian denomination. I was

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<v Speaker 1>raised as a Lutheran, but have started going to a

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist prayer group and cannot decide which denomination to stick with.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been moving towards becoming a Baptist, but would disappoint

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<v Speaker 1>my family if I moved from being a Lutheran. I

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<v Speaker 1>have also met a pretty Baptist girl who I have

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>started dating, and I cannot tell if I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>become a Baptist just so I could marry her, or

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe their teachings. I need advice. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear what you have to say. I thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your time, Leroy. This is crazy talk. This is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely insanity. To think that a Lutheran church and a

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist church are against each other is wrong. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are many kinds of Lutherans and many kinds of Baptist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like saying that I have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>that's from California. That's a bad example that automatically gives

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>you a feeling. Let me change it. It's like saying

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend from Pennsylvania or Illinois, even better Illinois.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't you can't judge that friend from Illinois unless

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you know where he's from. Is he from is he

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<v Speaker 1>from Carbondale or is he from Chicago? Like is he

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<v Speaker 1>a farm boy or is he is he working as

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a lawyer in the in the inner city. So that's

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>like saying that's what Baptists are. Baptist are. It's that

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>big of a range. It's like Illinois. It's like Texas.

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you in West Texas orre you in East Texas.

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you from Austin or do you live in a

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>high rise in Houston? Baptist means nothing anymore. Lutheran really

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>means nothing anymore. There are some kind of ties, you know,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>there's within the Baptist groups, there's the Independent batot Is,

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a Northern Babtist or the Southern Baptist. And within

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the Lutherans there's the the Liberal Lutherans, and then there's

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the Conservative Lutherans, and and there's there's some similarities. But

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you got it, buddy, you can Leroy drop it all.

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>This is this is ridiculous. To think that to think

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<v Speaker 1>that marrying a Baptist girl in your Lutheran is wrong

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is that's wrong thinking in itself. And to think that

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>your parents would have a problem with that is strange. Buddy.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>You got to get with this. I'm serious. Look, I

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>just spent about ten days in Israel with a missionary

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<v Speaker 1>team that I'm on, and almost all of us are

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>different denominations, but we're all of us are Evangelicals. I

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>would consider us conservative Evangelicals, conservative evangelical Christians, and that

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that throws out all denominations because to be a conservative

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Evangelical means that you believe that you believe in the Trinity,

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>which God exists as three persons, Father's Son, Holy Spirit.

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You believe that Jesus is fully Man and fully God.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>You believe that the Bible is inert, meaning without mistake,

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>it is divinely inspired. That you believe that we are

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<v Speaker 1>saved by grace through faith, and that is a gift

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of God. If you believe those things, then you're an evangelical.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>And Lutherans believe those things that I just said. Baptists

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>believe those things that I just said. Methodists believe those

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>things that I just said. Presbyterians believe those things that

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I just said. When you want to get into the

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>nitty gritty of the denominations, we're talking to things like

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<v Speaker 1>the mode of baptism, the way that the Lord's Supper

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>is given. You're talking about the way that the band

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>is set up in the church. We're talking about chairs

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>or hughes, what is the what does the pastor wear like,

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>what does the clothes look like? Or do we have

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a pipe organ or we have a piano like. Those

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>are the things that separate the denominations. Then there's a

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>few other things too, but none of them are first tier.

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>The first tier. We have to remember the trinity, the

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>deity and humanity of Christ. We're saved by grace to faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bible is in error. We trust the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Those are the four things you have to know?

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<v Speaker 1>And if this girl believes that, marrier, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay in Lutheran, now you have to discuss

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>where you want to raise your kids and what church

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>they want to go to. But I would suggest, if

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you're so strongly about Lutheran, she's so strongly about Baptists,

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest you find another denomination that you both

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<v Speaker 1>an evangelical denomination that you raise your kids in separate

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>from both of your parents. There's nothing wrong with that,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>But this this denomination thing's got to go. Here's my

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>point about Israel. Didn't even finish that thought. But we're

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 1>in Israel and now all of us came from for denominations,

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and we are preaching the gospel. We're going into homes,

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>we're telling him the truth about Jesus. Now doing that.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Each one of us might disagree on like a mode

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of baptism. We might disagree on a style of music,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but we come together on the four key points the

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>main points of the Gospel. We know that Jesus died

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<v Speaker 1>on the cross for our sins to become a substitute

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>for the people that weren't good enough to get to God.

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<v Speaker 1>And so God came to earth as a man to

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<v Speaker 1>redeem sinners, to draw them to himself, and he calls

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>for everyone to repent and believe in him. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>call Baptist and Lutherans and Presbyterians, the Methodists, we got

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to get off this stuff. And all you non denominational people,

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you got to get off that too, because that's a

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the denomination in itself. Don't hear me and go, I'm

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>safe granger, because I'm a non denominational. No, no, not,

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't exist. As soon as you tell me how

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you baptize people in your church, I'll tell you what

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of the nomination you came from. As soon as

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you tell me how you take the Lord' supper, I'll

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you where you came from. As soon as you

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me how you worship, I'll tell you where you

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<v Speaker 1>came from. So you don't get the hide in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and go, we're non denomination. Instead you could step

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<v Speaker 1>forward and go, we're one of many evangelical denominations that

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<v Speaker 1>believes in the Trinity, the deity and humanity of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible is an errant and we're saved by grace. Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're Christians, We're believers, right man. You got me up

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<v Speaker 1>on a soapbox with that coquestion. Hey, Leroy, I appreciate it. Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're eighteen. I didn't know these things when

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<v Speaker 1>I was eighteen. You're already way ahead of me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to I want you to understand. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's also there's really really bad Baptist church look full transparency.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Southern Baptist. I am a Southern Baptist seminarian.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to a Baptist church called a Mais in Georgetown, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid to say that. But I'm also I

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<v Speaker 1>also tell you that doesn't mean all Baptists are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and so because gray injury as you should follow them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of really bad ones. I've seen them.

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<v Speaker 1>I've traveled to these churches. They're horrible. I wouldn't recommend

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<v Speaker 1>them to my dog. And I've also like, hey, my

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<v Speaker 1>kids right now that my kids go to a Lutheran school,

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<v Speaker 1>So take that right that's a good example of the

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<v Speaker 1>two things you're talking about. My kids go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheran school, and even that school, I don't go there

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<v Speaker 1>and go, I agree with everything you're saying. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that. But that's okay. We don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>unity in all the things, just the four things that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned. We need to be like minded in that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my kids can go to school there and

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<v Speaker 1>then come they have a few questions about different things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, well, this is what this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we believe the Bible says. Let's go to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what the Bible says. But we don't not trust them.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't say, hey, don't marry anybody outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of this. And as parents, I would never tell

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter who's raised in a Southern Baptist home. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never say, don't you dare get around them Presbyterian,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you dare get around them Pentecostals. We might be

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<v Speaker 1>going too far on all this, but uh, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to break down these barriers of denominations. While we still

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<v Speaker 1>keep the walls up, we could still have denominations. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great. It represents different personalities. Marv who's on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. He's a Mennonite. Me and Marv, we are

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<v Speaker 1>locked on rock solid brothers. We agree on the four pillars,

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<v Speaker 1>the four top tiers. We agree and we will. We

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<v Speaker 1>will take the world by storm together with the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>in strength of the Bible, the inerrancy of it. We

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<v Speaker 1>we are locked solid. But he's a Mennonite and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Baptist. Different denominations, same brotherhood. Okay, leroy, I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I hope, I'm maybe I would I work crazy

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<v Speaker 1>on this question because don't tear down denominations and call

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<v Speaker 1>them non denomination. That's not the answer. And yet you

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<v Speaker 1>could still you could, you could still be united the

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<v Speaker 1>Gospel itself while maintaining denominations. You see. Okay, that's all

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