1 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. Thanks for 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: being here, Thanks for listening on whatever platform you're listing on. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: I am super loose with this podcast. I treat it 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: kind of like we're sitting in the cab of a 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: truck and we're driving down the road and we're just 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: having a discussion. I don't have a table full of notes. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: I only have your questions, which you have emailed me 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: podcast at grangersmith dot com. If you haven't asked a 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: question yet, you could feel free to do that email 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: podcast at grangersmith dot com. Ant Man, my producer, who 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, will get that email and 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: put it into the queue. So once again, podcast at 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: grangersmith dot com. Ask me anything. I'm sitting here with 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: a list of questions that ant Man has put together 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: from that I have not even glanced at them. Sometimes 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: I'll sneak a peek and see what I'm about to 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: talk about. I know nothing about what this is about 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: to what I'm about to get into with these questions. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: So we'll do that. And before we get into that, 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I want to address something that has been talked about 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: quite a bit on social media. Maybe you've seen it, 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: maybe you haven't depending on your algorithm, but it is 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: Pope Francis. Pope Francis made a comment, a public comment, 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have kind of engaged with this. 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: And I don't plan on getting into the weeds with 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: this at all, but I think it's important. I want 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: to use it maybe unlike a lot of other people have. 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I want to use it as a maybe like a 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: teaching tool. We'll put it that way. This came through 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: one week ago from when I'm reading it. Yeah, six 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: days from when I'm reading it. It says this. It 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: says Pope Francis to children and say, quote, all religions 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: are paths to reach God. They are to make a comparison, 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: like different languages, different dialects to get there. But God 35 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: is God for everyone. If you start to fight saying 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: my religion is more important than yours. Mine is true 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and yours isn't, where will that lead us? There is 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: only one God, and each of us has a language 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: to arrive at God. Some are Sheikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christians. 40 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: They are all different ways to God. So, like I said, 41 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people have engaged with this comment, which 42 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: is not Christian to say that it's not orthodox, it's 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: not classic theism in any way. It's never been taught 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: that way. Ever. That is very much an outside of 45 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: orthodox thought for the Catholic Church, for anybody that's ever 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: claimed themselves to be Christians. They have never said that 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: all religions lead to God. And the reason they have 48 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: never said that is because the Bible never says that, 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and Jesus specifically never said it something I want to do. 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Of course, we all think John fourteen six, when Jesus 51 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: says I am the Way, the Truth, and the life. 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: No one comes to the Father except by me. That's 53 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: one of the many exclusive passages that Jesus talks about 54 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: in the Bible. There are many, and one of the 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: teaching tools I want to say, and what I want 56 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: to present to you as you're listening to this is 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: for you to find more of the exclusivity of Christ, 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: as it's sometimes talked about Christ in many ways, as 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: we read his words, is very exclusive, and it's not 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: just John fourteen six. The only way Jesus taught is 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: that He's the only way, and there is never what 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Pope Francis is speaking here about universalism. There is never 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: any kind of universeism in Jesus. Now, the call of 64 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: the Gospel from Jesus goes out to all, the call 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: from the disciples, and still the call that we as 66 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: evangelicals preach and teach today goes to all people, of 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: all tribes, of all tongues. It is indiscriminate to all people. 68 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: The call is available. The offer is available for freedom, 69 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: for redemption, for forgiveness, for healing, for hope, for adoption 70 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: as sons to the King of Kings. That offer is 71 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: goes out to the ends of the earth, to all 72 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: people indiscriminately. But the exclusivity of Christ means that there 73 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: is only one way to God. And so God loved 74 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the world enough to give us his son so that 75 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: we would have a way to him. But he didn't 76 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: provide a bunch of ways. Now that opens up a 77 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: whole can of worms of many, many, many other discussions. 78 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: And it's even the thought of that opens up all 79 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: these other ideas like, well, what happens to the so 80 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: and so, what happens to this person of here, And 81 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways to think about that, and 82 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: once again, another podcast another time we can get into it. 83 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: But ultimately, the way we think about it is well, 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: I better get out there and tell as many people 85 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: about the good news as I possibly can. That should 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: instead of instead of driving us to look inward and say, ugh, 87 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that sounds really exclusive. Instead it should drive us outward 88 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: and say, I better get out and tell people about this, 89 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: because there are people that don't know about him yet, 90 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: they don't know about the only one way, the one 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: way to God, and I need to tell him. And 92 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: it's not based on how well I tell him or 93 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: how pretty my words are to come out. The word 94 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: is given to us with the Bible. We already have 95 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: the Gospel. We already have the word of God that 96 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: goes out sharper than any two edged sword, piercing to 97 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: the division of soul and of spirit. And we know 98 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that that word goes out and pierces for us. So 99 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: all we do is proclaim it and tell people to 100 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: believe and repent, turn from themselves and believe in the 101 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: only one way to God, which is Jesus. So that's 102 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: one way to look at it. The other the other 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: way to look at it is God is just. God 104 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: is holy, and God is loving and God will miss none. 105 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: So when we start, we have a tendency sometimes to 106 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: think that God is gonna God is unjust and he's 107 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: gonna miss a bunch of people because he only provided 108 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: this one exclusive way. And to that, I say, who 109 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: knows the mind of God God word? His word goes 110 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: out and does not return empty. It will succeed in 111 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: the very purpose by which he sent it. There is 112 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: no unsuccessful peace of God. Whatever he's doing and whatever 113 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: he purposes will happen the way that he wants it 114 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: to happen. His word will go out. And so let's 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: let that the exclusivity of Christ inspire us to have 116 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: an urgency to tell people that don't know about Christ. 117 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Let's tell them about him. And the people that do know, 118 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: let's reinforce more of who he is so that they 119 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: could they could then go outward and find that urgency 120 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: for the lost. That's what we should do. Here's the 121 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: final thought. Once again, my homework assignment for you is 122 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: to go beyond John fourteen six and look at all 123 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: the other exclusive claims, not just of what Jesus says 124 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: written in the red letters, as some Bibles have, but 125 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: what the all sixty six books of the Bible say 126 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: pointing towards the exclusivity of the Messiah. All of it 127 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: points towards that, and even if Jesus didn't say it, 128 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: it's still the word of God. And Jesus is the 129 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: second member of the Trinity, so Jesus is God. So 130 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: just because Jesus didn't say it, remember that Jesus said 131 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: himself that Moses was talking about him, the prophets were 132 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: talking about him. So every word in the Bible essentially 133 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: is God's word, which is Jesus's word, not just the 134 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: red letters. That's why I'm kind of against red letter Bibles, 135 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: by the way. But here's the final thought. This is 136 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: actually the first thought I had when I read this, 137 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: because the exclusivity of Christ is obvious, it's very clear 138 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: in scripture. But the first thing I thought of is 139 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: that the pope says he makes a huge mistake here, 140 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: because the pope says God is God for everyone, and 141 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: then he says there is only one God, and each 142 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: of us has a language to arrive at God. And 143 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: then he goes to name a few random religions, one 144 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: of them being Hindu. Hindus don't believe there's one God. 145 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: They don't believe that, so that's an insult to the 146 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Hindu religion. You see, like Pope Francis in his effort 147 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: to be universal, is self corrupting. In his offer to 148 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: be universal, he's condemning the Hindus because they believe in many, 149 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: many gods. So to tell them that it's okay, whatever 150 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: you believe will lead to the one God. And to them, 151 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: they're going, I have many gods. That's an insult to 152 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: me for you to tell me that there's only one God. 153 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: So the Pope, in his way to be like ever loving, 154 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: which is not the definition of love at all, he's 155 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: actually deeply offending people of the Hindu faith. It's interesting. 156 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to talk about and talk about. 157 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: With that, I wanted to address it quickly, but I 158 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: think we should get into some questions. And the first 159 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: one comes from Anonymous. It says once again the podcast 160 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: is podcast at grangersmith dot com. And the first question 161 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: from Anonymous says, Hey, Granger, I appreciate everything you stand 162 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: for and I love listening to the podcast for godly advice. 163 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: My question is how do I encourage my friend to 164 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: stop having sex with her boyfriend until they get married. 165 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: They are both Christians and my friend wanted to save 166 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: herself for marriage, but I recently found out that she didn't. 167 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: I have been married for two years. My husband and 168 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: I saved ourself for marriage, and I know how hard 169 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: that was. They both want to get married but won't 170 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. They are nineteen and eighteen. 171 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: I care about them, and I want God's will and 172 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: blessing for their lives. I've been seeking the Lord and 173 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: searching his word for encouragement I could pass along. Should 174 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: I just mind my own business? Please let me know 175 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: your opinion. Thanks so much. Okay, let's dive into this. Anonymous. 176 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for emailing. I don't think you said your age, 177 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: but you sound you're probably pretty young as well. And 178 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: then you have this couple. They're friends of yours, and 179 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: specifically the girl you want her to stop having sex 180 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: with her boyfriend until they get married, and saying that 181 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: she wanted to save herself. So the first thing to 182 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: be careful with, as I read it, is the first thing. 183 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: The first thing we want to do in this kind 184 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: of situation is judge and compare. Now, obviously, sex outside 185 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: of the covenant of marriage, a godly marriage. Sex outside 186 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: of that is a sin and the first thought we 187 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: want to do is go I didn't do that. I 188 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: saved myself and it was really hard, and now they're 189 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: doing it. Instead. We should, as Jesus would teach, we 190 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: should look at the log in her own eye before 191 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: we start messing with a speck in her friend's eye. 192 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And so we should look. We should look at our 193 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: own sin. It's interesting that earlier about Poste Francis, I 194 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: talked about where it should make us look outward, But 195 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: when we see sin, it should make us look inward, 196 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: in fact, looking at the cross itself of Jesus and 197 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: what he did to die for sin to be able 198 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: to forgive us with the blood of the son of God. 199 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: And that's what he did on the cross became the 200 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: substitute for us, taking on the sin of the world, 201 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: the sins of the world, being separated from God, taking 202 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: on the sins of the world upon his own body, 203 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: that we might be redeemed. When we look at that, 204 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: that should make us opposite of pote francis. That should 205 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: make us look inward at our own sin and hate 206 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: it and think, oh I am that sin that put 207 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Jesus on the cross. So when you look at your 208 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: friend you go, Yeah, she's having sex with her boyfriend. 209 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Shame on her, which is a sin. You're right, but 210 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: we should we should first look inward and go. And 211 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: that's the same sin I struggle with. I didn't, I 212 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't act on it in the same way. It didn't 213 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: manifest in my marriage like this. But I have many 214 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: other sins that have manifested, maybe other sins that my 215 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: friend doesn't struggle with that I do. And Lord, please 216 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: forgive me this by your blood of the cross. I 217 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: look to you, by your sacrifice. You know, we should. 218 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: We should direct our gaze at Jesus, knowing that he's 219 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: the forgiver of sins, knowing that he was sent to 220 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: sent to earth to save sinners, not to save the 221 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: righteous people. He came to save sinners, like my friend 222 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: and like me. So always include yourself that that protects 223 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: you from becoming unnecessarily judgmental. Now we should judge according 224 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: to how we we need to be judged. Right, But 225 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: but if you, if you are without, then throw a stone, 226 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, And I don't think that's you, and it's 227 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: definitely not me. So what do we do with this? 228 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: What do we do? You're like, Okay, Granger. Well, my 229 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: friend's obviously in sin, and sin when it's fully matured, 230 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: leads to death, and I see death all over my friend. 231 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: What do I do. You're saying, be careful not to 232 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: judge her, because you're full of sin too. Okay, So 233 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: I say this without saying this out loud. It's interesting 234 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: that you say they're both Christians because because being reborn 235 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: a Christian, not a cultural Christian, but a believer. When 236 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: I was traveling in Israel here just a few weeks ago, 237 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: it was interesting that a lot of people, one percent 238 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: of the population, not a lot one percent of the population, 239 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: call themselves Christians. But I noticed that in that one 240 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: percent of the Christians in Israel, most of them aren't. 241 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: It's just cultural. They're not Muslim, and they're not jew 242 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and they're the ones that you know, do the cross thing, 243 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: the Virgin Mary thing. So they're not really Christians. That's 244 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: just their culture. Very few of them, and they use 245 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: the word believer. Very few of them are believers, meaning 246 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: they're born again. Like according to John three, when Jesus says, truly, truly, 247 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: I say to you, unless one is born again, he 248 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: cannot see the kingdom. So I'm talking about born again believers. 249 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: If that's who your friends are, then the sin of 250 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: having sexual relations outside of marriage will start eating at 251 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: them and they will turn in repentance back to God 252 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: and say, well, we got to stop this because I 253 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: just it just creeps me out. I know, I know 254 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: it's not right, and I love you, and we need 255 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: to get married as soon as possible, because having the 256 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: sexual relations with each other, this lustful relationship, is outside 257 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: of God's promise and God hates that. It's sin. And 258 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: so because God hates that, I hate it too, and 259 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: it creeps me out. I can't sleep at night knowing 260 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: that I'm not right with God. So I want to repent. 261 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I want to turn to him. That's what repentance means 262 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: and stop this so that that's that's how a Christian feels, 263 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: That's how a Christian thinks. That's what drives a Christian. 264 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: You say, how do you what do you mean drives 265 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: a Christian? I mean these are things that that self 266 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: conscious feeling of I'm in sin right now starts to 267 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: just erode your mind and you have to you have 268 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: to turn away from it. Now. The what accelerates repentance 269 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: actually really what initiates the repentance is God through his word, 270 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and so this could mean that they are believers, but 271 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: they are so poorly discipled. The word of God is 272 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: not being poured into them. They're not in a healthy church, 273 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: and no one is preaching God's word to them, So 274 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: it hasn't it hasn't kicked in this repentance. They would 275 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: listen to a passage like Ephesians four seventeen through thirty two. 276 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: They would listen to a block of scripture like that, 277 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: or in the Book of Hebrews when you hear the 278 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: warning passages or any of the sexual sin passages. There's 279 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: hundreds thousands. Maybe they would hear that and go, uh oh, 280 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: that's me. I better get out of this. Oh man, 281 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry God, I have Psalm fifty one failed you. 282 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: So that could be, But I don't think that's the 283 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: story here. I think because the more common thing is 284 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: they're just actually not born again believes. They just they're 285 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: cultural Christians and it's unfortunate. But so what do I 286 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: still have told you what to do? Because you're like, well, 287 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: grandear what I do? Especially if they're cultural Christians. The 288 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: thing that you can't do is go to them and say, hey, 289 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: y'all shouldn't be having sex right now, because that that 290 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: doesn't really change anything. Like at that point, you just 291 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: sound like a mom or a dad. I don't know 292 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: who you are because you're anonymous, but you kind of 293 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: sound like a mom or dad. Instead, you want to 294 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: get the word of God in front of them. You 295 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: want to tell them the gospel. You want to tell 296 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: them about what Jesus did on the cross to die 297 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: for sin. And once they get a grasp of what 298 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: that means, that Jesus died for sin so that we 299 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: could live free, so we could be forgiven. Once they 300 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: get a grasp of that, and they realize they're sinning 301 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: the very sin that put Jesus on the cross, that 302 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: the sin that he freed them from, they're going back 303 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: to it like like an old pair of clothes that 304 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: they've moved on from that, and they're going and they're 305 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: putting them on this this old, dirty garment again that 306 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Jesus died for that. You would say, Jesus died for 307 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Nails driven through his hands and his 308 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: feet hung on that cross, and he died for what 309 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: you're doing right now. You want to keep doing that. 310 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: The Word of God will convict them in that way, 311 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: not you, And so you want to get them in 312 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: a church, a solid Bible teaching church that teaches expositionally, 313 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: that walks through scripture, not topics, not man made and 314 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you feel better about yourself topics. 315 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: But we're gonna we're gonna pick up where we left 316 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: off last week in the in the book of wherever 317 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: you are in the Bible, and the preacher walks through 318 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: a block of scripture and then applies it to the 319 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: lives of the people listening. So here's here's what the 320 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: the original author meant, and here's how we could take 321 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: that truth and apply it to our modern lives today 322 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. And you do that Sunday after 323 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: Sunday and you're meeting with people in the church and 324 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: they go, how's your week going, And then you start thinking, 325 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: I had sex with my girlfriend last night. I don't 326 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: want to tell anybody, but it's really starting to bother me. 327 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: This is this is how it begins to happen without 328 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: you even saying it, without you saying, hey, you stop 329 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: sleeping with your girlfriend. Let the word of God convict them. 330 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: Put the Gospel on full display in front of them. 331 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Let it do it, Let it do its work, and 332 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: repentance will come. So a yeee. Apparel. Life before Shopify 333 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: was pretty clunky, I guess, to say the least, it 334 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: would take a long time for you to go in 335 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: and enter your credit card number and go to the 336 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: checkout and do all that stuff on our website just 337 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: to buy a hat or a sticker. You know, That's 338 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Shopify comes in and they are the mechanics 339 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: in the checkout. 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Again, that's Cameo dot com slash granger Smith. 366 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Our next question comes from Joe once again all I 367 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: haven't read these at all. This is all on the 368 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: fly this episode completely. Joe says, Hey, good evening, Granger. 369 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: I have read your book Like a River and been 370 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: following your podcast recently and they've really inspired me. A 371 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: question I have though, is about faith. I have a 372 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: good relationship with God and strong faith, yet things seem 373 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: to be harder than ever and only getting harder in 374 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: life in general, and it just doesn't seem like I 375 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: can catch a break. I guess my question is, if 376 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I have such a good relationship with God, why is 377 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: it so hard? Hey, Joe, thanks for the email. Man great, 378 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: great question, and thank you for reading the book, and 379 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: thank you for thank you for thinking through this, because 380 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: you know what we see in a daily digestion of 381 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: God's word, as we start to see that God doesn't 382 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: necessarily put in front of us a nice, little happy life. 383 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: That's just not his intention. And somehow we've gotten that 384 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: impression that people who love God and God loves them 385 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: and have a good relationship as you say, with God, 386 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that he provides them with a nice, happy life that's 387 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: full of good meals and low debt and a roof 388 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: over your head and a happy family. And people around 389 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: you aren't getting sick as much as they used to 390 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: whenever you weren't a Christian. People are people are just 391 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: a little bit nicer to you than when you used 392 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: to be an unbeliever. These things just aren't true, and 393 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: you see it clearly in the Bible. A lot of 394 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: times when people in the Bible, like in the Book 395 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: of Acts or any of the letters from the Apostles, 396 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: which is these are the letters that happened after the 397 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Book of Acts in the Bible, in the New Testament. 398 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: These are letters from different apostles to different people or 399 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: different churches for different reasons. And through those letters you 400 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: see that sometimes people when they became a Christian, life 401 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: actually got harder for them. That still happens to this day. 402 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: Because Jesus says, in this world you will have trouble. 403 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: It's interesting, right, He doesn't say in this world you 404 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: may have trouble. He doesn't say in this world some 405 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: of you could have trouble. He says, in this world 406 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: you will have trouble, trials, tribulation. But then the next 407 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: part of the of the verse is the most important part. 408 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: He says, but take heart, I have overcome the world. 409 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: So in this world you're gonna have trouble. Ah, don't 410 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: worry about it, because I've overcome that. I've already beat that, 411 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: I've defeated that, I have victory over that. You see. 412 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: See that's interesting. He's saying. This game is going to 413 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: be tough. It's like if you're a football player and 414 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you go into the you go into the season and 415 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: you go, man, we have we have a good team. 416 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: I feel good about this year. And you go into 417 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: a game and you're battling it out right, You're this 418 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: team that you're playing is just crushing. You got guys 419 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: getting injured, you get you know, the weather's bad, you 420 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: can't get good footing because it's raining. Guys are dropping passes, 421 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: people are missing their blocks. You go into the locker 422 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: room at halftime tied, and the coach goes, you're gonna 423 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: win this game, and so there's something about that. It's like, well, 424 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna have trouble, but we know we win. 425 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: We know we win in the end. So knowing that, 426 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: do you go into the next game and go, I 427 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: hope this next game is easy. Not necessarily. You know, 428 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna have trouble, but we know we're gonna win. 429 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: So what if you applied this to your life right 430 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: now and you go, well, I know that according to 431 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: the Bible, following Jesus doesn't make my life more prosperous, 432 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: or or I don't get more money in the account, 433 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: my worries don't just start to fall away just magically 434 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: because I become a believer. Because what if they did right? 435 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: What if they did all this hypothetical What if when 436 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: you became a believer, life suddenly became easier. Imagine the 437 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: way God would set this up. Right. We can't understand 438 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the mind of God, but let's think about it. Let's 439 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: just contemplate for a second. God sets up the world, 440 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: and if someone becomes a believer, life gets easy for him. 441 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: What happens to the person? Naturally they stop relying on God, 442 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: their prayer, life gets stagnant. They slowly drift away into 443 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: some kind of complacency. That's not what God would want, right, 444 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: But what drives us to God? Let's think about this. 445 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: What makes most people, most of the time turn to 446 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: God and say, God, Please, where are you help me? 447 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Times of trouble, the trouble that Jesus says, in this 448 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: world you will have trouble, But take heart, I've overcome 449 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: the world sixteen forty four by the way, So most 450 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: people turn to God, they get they feel closer to 451 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: God in the times of chaos, not the good times 452 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: when you're having a really good day and things are 453 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: going great, and everything seems to be falling into place, 454 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: you probably pray less. Right And then when things like 455 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: you said, Joe, when things are piling on in life 456 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: and it seems like you just can't catch a break, 457 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: like you said, things are piling on one after another, 458 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: you get another phone call, it's bad news. You get 459 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: in your truck and there's the check engine light. You 460 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: get home and your wife is mad, and you go, 461 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: I can't catch a break, And you go, God, Please, 462 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: where are you? Please? God? I need you today. I 463 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: realize that I own nothing without you. I'm so weak, 464 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm so frail. I can't even succeed in anything I'm doing, 465 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: can't I can't even get my wife to like me today. Please, God, 466 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: have mercy on me. God, pour your grace unto me. 467 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: And guess what. Guess what happens. Suddenly you're closer and 468 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: closer to Him, right where you need to be. And 469 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: then that night you pull out your Bible, you knock 470 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: some dust off the top of it, and you open 471 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: it up and you go to a place like John 472 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: one And in the beginning was the Word, and the 473 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: word was with God, and the Word was God, and 474 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: he was in the beginning with God, and you start 475 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: reading more and more in you and and that word, 476 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: you just let that word pour over you, and you pause. 477 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Every once in a while you pause and go, Lord, Lord, 478 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: you made yourself known. You made yourself known in this world. 479 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: Will you Will you comfort me with the same kind 480 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: of comfort you give these these men and these women 481 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: in this book right here, the same promises that you 482 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: gave them that I know you're a promise keeper. Will you? 483 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Will you have mercy on me? Will you give me 484 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: these promises? Not that you're going to erase the trouble, 485 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: but I could have the confidence that I know you 486 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: overcame the trouble in this world. I know that you're 487 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: not gonna put out the fire. I'm walking through this 488 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: house and everything's burning, and I know you're not just 489 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna put out the fire, but I know you're gonna 490 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: walk me through it, because I'll be better for walking 491 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: through the fire. I think about it like this a lot. 492 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: If I was an author and I was writing a book, 493 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: a novel, a fictional book, and I wanted you to 494 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: read it, and I left out the bad character. There's 495 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: no bad guy. It's just a good guy. And he 496 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: lives his life and everything's nice. You'd be like, grated, 497 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: this is the worst book I've ever read my life. 498 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: I would say why because there's no trouble, there's no 499 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: bad guy, there's no adversary, there's nothing for the good 500 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: guy to beat. There's nothing for him in the end 501 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: to celebrate victory. And you cry, and you get to 502 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: the last chapter and you go, he did it. Oh, 503 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: everything came back together. The bad guy's defeated. I was 504 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: so worried, and then he pulled it through, and then 505 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: the story's so beautiful. That's what you say about a book, 506 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: That's what you say about a movie. And yet when 507 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: it comes to your life, you say, why can't I 508 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: catch a break? I thought if I had a good 509 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: relationship with God, he would give me a break. You 510 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. These are all things to think about. 511 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Next question comes from anonymous says, Hey Granger, I used 512 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: to be a huge country fan of yours. It's rare 513 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: to find Christian artist anymore, so to see you glorifying 514 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: God in this podcast is great for me. So my 515 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: question is what do I do if some of my 516 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: church leader, if one of my church leaders is operating 517 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: in the Leviathan Jezebel spirits, some or not, but some are. 518 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: This is the problem in the church right now due 519 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: to political reasons in the world, infiltrating the church. How 520 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: do I chase the call of the Lord on my 521 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: life running a church podcast. I'm very frowned upon due 522 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: to having epilepsy. And they will attack me. I know, 523 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Jesus says I was persecuted, so you will as you 524 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: believe in me. Thanks for your guidance. WHOA, I don't 525 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about it. Let me read this again. 526 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: You say, what do I do if some of my 527 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: church leadership is operating in the Leviathan Jezebel spirits? Some 528 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: are not, some are. This is the problem in the 529 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: church right now, due to political reasons in the world, 530 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: infiltrating the church. How do I still chase the call 531 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: of the Lord of my life running a church podcast? 532 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm very frowned upon due to having epilepsy. Okay, I'm sorry, 533 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: I just read. I just read that too fast the 534 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: first time. But I think I'm following you. You run 535 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the church podcast like you're the guy that's like producing 536 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: it or recording it something like that. That's what I'm 537 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: assuming that you mean, but some of the church leadership 538 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: is operating in the Leviathan Jeesubville spirits. I mean, you 539 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: know that's the devil, right, like a Jezebelle spirit would 540 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: be Satan would be the enemy infiltrating the church leadership. 541 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: And so it just I think we can't overthink this. 542 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: I think you're in the wrong church now. I'm not 543 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: encouraging people to they get a feeling, they get to 544 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: they getta they go off on a whim and just 545 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: leave their church because they have a bad feeling about 546 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: things like this needs to be talked through. But you 547 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: would need to go to one of one of the 548 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: guys in leadership and just be like, hey, I have 549 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: some problems. I'm running this church podcast, and yet I 550 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: see this going on in leadership. And there's nothing wrong. 551 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: By the way, there's no judgment in that. There's there's 552 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with sitting down against with church leadership because 553 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: you are in leadership as well. If you're running a 554 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: church podcast, that's absolutely church leadership. So there's nothing wrong 555 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: with you sitting down with fellow members of church leadership 556 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: and saying, look, this is what I see am I 557 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: am I wrong in seeing this, and some of the 558 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: guys might say, wow, I didn't even know that, but yeah, 559 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: we need to get on this. And some of them 560 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: they say, you're crazy. Look the other way, and to 561 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: that you leave the church. I think. I think this 562 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: is if you're hanging on for this podcast, then the 563 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: podcast is completely undermined by bad leadership, then it doesn't matter. 564 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like you I don't know enough information, but 565 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: it sounds like you probably should leave the church. Next 566 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: question comes from Luke. Hey, mister Smith, my name is Leroy, 567 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: and I just said Luke, so that maybe that's a nickname. 568 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: My name is Leroy. I'm eighteen years old and I 569 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: work for a company that builds chicken and hogbarns. I 570 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: recently have been thinking about my Christian denomination. I was 571 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: raised as a Lutheran, but have started going to a 572 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: Baptist prayer group and cannot decide which denomination to stick with. 573 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: I've been moving towards becoming a Baptist, but would disappoint 574 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: my family if I moved from being a Lutheran. I 575 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: have also met a pretty Baptist girl who I have 576 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: started dating, and I cannot tell if I wanted to 577 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: become a Baptist just so I could marry her, or 578 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: I really believe their teachings. I need advice. I would 579 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: love to hear what you have to say. I thanks 580 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: for your time, Leroy. This is crazy talk. This is 581 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: absolutely insanity. To think that a Lutheran church and a 582 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: Baptist church are against each other is wrong. And there 583 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: are many kinds of Lutherans and many kinds of Baptist. 584 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: It's kind of like saying that I have a friend 585 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: that's from California. That's a bad example that automatically gives 586 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: you a feeling. Let me change it. It's like saying 587 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: I have a friend from Pennsylvania or Illinois, even better Illinois. 588 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: You can't you can't judge that friend from Illinois unless 589 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: you know where he's from. Is he from is he 590 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: from Carbondale or is he from Chicago? Like is he 591 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: a farm boy or is he is he working as 592 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: a lawyer in the in the inner city. So that's 593 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: like saying that's what Baptists are. Baptist are. It's that 594 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: big of a range. It's like Illinois. It's like Texas. 595 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: Are you in West Texas orre you in East Texas. 596 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: Are you from Austin or do you live in a 597 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: high rise in Houston? Baptist means nothing anymore. Lutheran really 598 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: means nothing anymore. There are some kind of ties, you know, 599 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: there's within the Baptist groups, there's the Independent batot Is, 600 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: there's a Northern Babtist or the Southern Baptist. And within 601 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: the Lutherans there's the the Liberal Lutherans, and then there's 602 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: the Conservative Lutherans, and and there's there's some similarities. But 603 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: you got it, buddy, you can Leroy drop it all. 604 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: This is this is ridiculous. To think that to think 605 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: that marrying a Baptist girl in your Lutheran is wrong 606 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: is that's wrong thinking in itself. And to think that 607 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: your parents would have a problem with that is strange. Buddy. 608 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: You got to get with this. I'm serious. Look, I 609 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: just spent about ten days in Israel with a missionary 610 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: team that I'm on, and almost all of us are 611 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: different denominations, but we're all of us are Evangelicals. I 612 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: would consider us conservative Evangelicals, conservative evangelical Christians, and that 613 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: that throws out all denominations because to be a conservative 614 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: Evangelical means that you believe that you believe in the Trinity, 615 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: which God exists as three persons, Father's Son, Holy Spirit. 616 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: You believe that Jesus is fully Man and fully God. 617 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: You believe that the Bible is inert, meaning without mistake, 618 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: it is divinely inspired. That you believe that we are 619 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: saved by grace through faith, and that is a gift 620 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: of God. If you believe those things, then you're an evangelical. 621 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: And Lutherans believe those things that I just said. Baptists 622 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: believe those things that I just said. Methodists believe those 623 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: things that I just said. Presbyterians believe those things that 624 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: I just said. When you want to get into the 625 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the denominations, we're talking to things like 626 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: the mode of baptism, the way that the Lord's Supper 627 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: is given. You're talking about the way that the band 628 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: is set up in the church. We're talking about chairs 629 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: or hughes, what is the what does the pastor wear like, 630 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: what does the clothes look like? Or do we have 631 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: a pipe organ or we have a piano like. Those 632 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: are the things that separate the denominations. Then there's a 633 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: few other things too, but none of them are first tier. 634 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: The first tier. We have to remember the trinity, the 635 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: deity and humanity of Christ. We're saved by grace to faith, 636 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: and the Bible is in error. We trust the Bible. 637 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: Are Those are the four things you have to know? 638 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: And if this girl believes that, marrier, and if you 639 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: want to stay in Lutheran, now you have to discuss 640 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: where you want to raise your kids and what church 641 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: they want to go to. But I would suggest, if 642 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: you're so strongly about Lutheran, she's so strongly about Baptists, 643 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: I would suggest you find another denomination that you both 644 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: an evangelical denomination that you raise your kids in separate 645 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: from both of your parents. There's nothing wrong with that, 646 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: But this this denomination thing's got to go. Here's my 647 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: point about Israel. Didn't even finish that thought. But we're 648 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: in Israel and now all of us came from for denominations, 649 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: and we are preaching the gospel. We're going into homes, 650 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: we're telling him the truth about Jesus. Now doing that. 651 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: Each one of us might disagree on like a mode 652 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: of baptism. We might disagree on a style of music, 653 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: but we come together on the four key points the 654 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: main points of the Gospel. We know that Jesus died 655 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: on the cross for our sins to become a substitute 656 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: for the people that weren't good enough to get to God. 657 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: And so God came to earth as a man to 658 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: redeem sinners, to draw them to himself, and he calls 659 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: for everyone to repent and believe in him. He doesn't 660 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: call Baptist and Lutherans and Presbyterians, the Methodists, we got 661 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: to get off this stuff. And all you non denominational people, 662 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: you got to get off that too, because that's a 663 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: the denomination in itself. Don't hear me and go, I'm 664 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: safe granger, because I'm a non denominational. No, no, not, 665 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. As soon as you tell me how 666 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: you baptize people in your church, I'll tell you what 667 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: kind of the nomination you came from. As soon as 668 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: you tell me how you take the Lord' supper, I'll 669 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: tell you where you came from. As soon as you 670 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: tell me how you worship, I'll tell you where you 671 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: came from. So you don't get the hide in the 672 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: corner and go, we're non denomination. Instead you could step 673 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: forward and go, we're one of many evangelical denominations that 674 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: believes in the Trinity, the deity and humanity of Christ. 675 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: The Bible is an errant and we're saved by grace. Amen, 676 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: we're Christians, We're believers, right man. You got me up 677 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: on a soapbox with that coquestion. Hey, Leroy, I appreciate it. Ben. 678 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: I know you're eighteen. I didn't know these things when 679 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: I was eighteen. You're already way ahead of me. But 680 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: I want you to I want you to understand. And 681 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: there's also there's really really bad Baptist church look full transparency. 682 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: I am a Southern Baptist. I am a Southern Baptist seminarian. 683 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: I go to a Baptist church called a Mais in Georgetown, Texas. 684 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say that. But I'm also I 685 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: also tell you that doesn't mean all Baptists are good, 686 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: and so because gray injury as you should follow them. 687 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of really bad ones. I've seen them. 688 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: I've traveled to these churches. They're horrible. I wouldn't recommend 689 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: them to my dog. And I've also like, hey, my 690 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: kids right now that my kids go to a Lutheran school, 691 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: So take that right that's a good example of the 692 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: two things you're talking about. My kids go to the 693 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Lutheran school, and even that school, I don't go there 694 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: and go, I agree with everything you're saying. I don't 695 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: think that. But that's okay. We don't have to have 696 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: unity in all the things, just the four things that 697 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned. We need to be like minded in that. 698 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: And then my kids can go to school there and 699 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: then come they have a few questions about different things, 700 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: and I go, well, this is what this is what 701 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: we believe the Bible says. Let's go to the Bible. 702 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: Here's what the Bible says. But we don't not trust them. 703 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: We don't say, hey, don't marry anybody outside of the 704 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: outside of this. And as parents, I would never tell 705 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: my daughter who's raised in a Southern Baptist home. I 706 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: would never say, don't you dare get around them Presbyterian, 707 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: don't you dare get around them Pentecostals. We might be 708 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: going too far on all this, but uh, I want 709 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: to break down these barriers of denominations. While we still 710 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: keep the walls up, we could still have denominations. I 711 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: think it's great. It represents different personalities. Marv who's on 712 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: this podcast. He's a Mennonite. Me and Marv, we are 713 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: locked on rock solid brothers. We agree on the four pillars, 714 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: the four top tiers. We agree and we will. We 715 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: will take the world by storm together with the Lord 716 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: in strength of the Bible, the inerrancy of it. We 717 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: we are locked solid. But he's a Mennonite and I'm 718 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: a Baptist. Different denominations, same brotherhood. Okay, leroy, I hope, 719 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm I hope, I'm maybe I would I work crazy 720 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: on this question because don't tear down denominations and call 721 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: them non denomination. That's not the answer. And yet you 722 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: could still you could, you could still be united the 723 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: Gospel itself while maintaining denominations. You see. Okay, that's all 724 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: we have time for. Love you guys. We'll see you 725 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: next Monday. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. 726 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you. Guys. You could help me 727 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, 728 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to this channel, hit that little like button and 729 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: notification spell so that you never miss anytime I upload 730 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: a video. Yigi