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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: Da state? Is that? Woo woom? And then and Tye,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the Cliburbo boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 2: is ty hilden Brandt. I am joined as always by

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Speaker 2: the Monster of the Midway back in Chicagoland, Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 2: from his travels to Parts Unknown, Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I was in Oceanside, California, which is about thirty or

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Speaker 3: I am tanned, I am tacoed, and I am tenacious

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Speaker 3: about the next few months heading into the season because

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Speaker 3: we all need a good reboot every so often. I

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Speaker 3: know you're locked into two Eastern PA because the people

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Speaker 3: need you there, right. You're an icon, your a legend.

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Speaker 3: Sure people would not know what to do them with

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Speaker 3: I feel reinvigorated after my time out west. I had

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Speaker 3: never really spent time in Oceanside. I know you've been

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Speaker 3: I'm I had a great time. I mean, traveling with

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you back. I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: had a good trip. I'm glad you're feeling thank you

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Speaker 2: rejuvenated here recharged. As we begin the slow climb into

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Speaker 2: the official preseason, we're talking all things spring football. There

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Speaker 2: we're going to go through a bunch of teams, anything

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Speaker 2: that was in focus, not in focus, what we learned.

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Speaker 2: We're going to continue with the puddle of month thing,

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Speaker 3: And what is coming into focus for various teams, And

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Speaker 3: it just so happens that there's a lot of significant

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Speaker 3: fascinating come spring. Because what's fascinating about Alfana football right now? Oh,

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs is going to take over no problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course he is. There's there's nothing too crazy about

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Speaker 3: a number of these schools that have continuity. But when

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Speaker 2: We will go through as much of that as we

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Speaker 2: possibly can't. Can't get through every team because there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of nowns this past weekend. That's what the

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Speaker 2: Oregon football. The five Corridor Daniel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyson Alger who runs the A five Corridor formerly

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Speaker 3: many Mark Helfritz, Willie Tagger, Mario Christobala.

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Speaker 3: So has a unique perspective on I guess the current vibes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you like that, we do.

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Speaker 2: month of May. Yeah. All true, without further ado, Spring

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Speaker 2: The vibes are good. The vibes are good, Okay, so

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Speaker 2: we want with a puddle of mud, lose the vibe.

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Speaker 2: We need to talk about puddle of mud. No more vibes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: a lot in April that only amuses us. And that's

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Speaker 2: fine because it's our show, dammit. Correct. We split up

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Speaker 2: it's spring football. What can you really get from spring football? Oftentimes,

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Speaker 2: So we split this up. Do you want to go

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Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense, as are those all of them?

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Speaker 2: Important thing, one important thing, one important thing, especially with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean now that you quit the mysterious

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Speaker 2: I can talk about Brian. Yeah, no, I could talk

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Speaker 3: Salty vibes. There were sweatshirts in Oceanside, California that said

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Speaker 2: This is excellent. This is the excellent circumstance if you

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Speaker 3: In all fairness, no matter who took the LSU job,

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Speaker 2: Sary and kiss. Everybody will acknowledge that Jane Daniels has

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, Brian Kelly's accomplished near everything outside

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Speaker 2: Ian Book was fine. He just wasn't good against Clemson

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Speaker 3: If you're at LSU. But it's not Ian Book, right.

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Speaker 2: No, you'll be fine. But I'm with the amount of

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Speaker 2: The Ettling bar.

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Speaker 2: There is paralysis by analysis when it comes to that.

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Speaker 2: This specific thing for Brian Kelly. I'm not openly rooting

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Speaker 3: But let let he who has selected the wrong guy

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Speaker 2: Where should we go next?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go, Let's go to USC. I saw

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Speaker 2: Recruiting has been strong. There's a lot of excitement with

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Speaker 2: the program, and I think they will be better. I

432
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Speaker 2: have no doubts that they will be better very quickly. Yeah.

433
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Speaker 2: What remains out of focus and a little bit blurry

434
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Speaker 2: is to what extent is this team like superficial. Maybe

435
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: that's the wrong way to phrase it, but depth is

436
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Speaker 2: something that I know you've questioned.

437
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Speaker 3: And they don't have numbers that like the bodies, the

438
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Speaker 3: scholarship bodies. That's why they're hitting the portal so hard.

439
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: That this is between the injuries and just holes on

440
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Speaker 3: the roster, it's still a thin team.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm real curious to see how he addresses that.

442
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: If he continues to be aggressive in the portal, I

443
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Speaker 2: expect that he will. He certainly is type of coach.

444
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 2: Look is, his reputation precedes him and players want to

445
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: play for him. He's got a reputation for putting talent,

446
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: especially offensive talent in the NFL. I would expect that

447
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: they're going to be better there, if only because they've

448
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: got Caleb Williams. But yeah, you know, we'll have to

449
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: wait and see how that actually plays out once the

450
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Speaker 2: live bullets start flying.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Kayleb Williams has Mario Williams, who

452
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: should be one of the best receivers in the Pac

453
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Speaker 3: twelve and is an enticing talent obviously with what he

454
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Speaker 3: did early on in his Oklahoma career. They have Travis Dye,

455
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Speaker 3: the Oregon transfer, who will solidify that backfield. They've been

456
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Speaker 3: a couple other transfers at receiver, Brendan Rice trell By

457
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: them guys from elsewhere in the Pac twelve. It's going

458
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: to be a matter of what does this defense do

459
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Speaker 3: that they weren't doing the past couple of years. Are

460
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Speaker 3: they sounder tacklers, Are they able to get more of

461
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: a pass rush, you know, are they more stout up front.

462
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Speaker 3: It's just there's so much work to be done on defense.

463
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: I know transfers have come in, but really it's it's

464
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Speaker 3: a pretty sizable question at this point. Because they can

465
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Speaker 3: win games forty two to thirty nine but they might

466
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Speaker 3: also lose some of those forty two to thirty nine.

467
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, it is building up the depth, especially

468
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Speaker 3: upfront on both sides of the ball and getting the

469
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Speaker 3: star power because I have no no question in my

470
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Speaker 3: mind that they're going to get star quarterbacks and star

471
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: receivers and tight ends and like they are going to

472
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Speaker 3: get those guys, especially from the West Coast footprint. It's

473
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Speaker 3: are they beating out teams from elsewhere in the country

474
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Speaker 3: for defensive tackles, for left guards for you know, that's

475
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Speaker 3: the question to me of if USC is going to

476
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Speaker 3: compete with I mean, let's just start out with Utah.

477
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Speaker 3: Utah is the bar right now in the PAC twelve,

478
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Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve South. You need dudes upfront to

479
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: compete with those dudes in that young, swarming defense. And

480
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Speaker 3: so that's where I would lay my questions with USC.

481
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Speaker 2: At the moment. All right, where do you want to

482
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Speaker 2: go next?

483
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Speaker 3: You want to stay in the city of La Real

484
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Speaker 3: quick With UCLA, who didn't really play a spring game, I'll.

485
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Speaker 2: Just the showcase quickly, the spring showcase.

486
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Speaker 3: Speaking of Finn, on both sides of the line, Yea,

487
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: the offensive line lost a bunch of starters and looked

488
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: strong at times last year, got overwhelmed at times at

489
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: last year. The pass rush look good at times last

490
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 3: year and kind of faded secondary real thin. They make

491
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: a change of defensive coordinator. It's Bill McGovern who comes

492
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Speaker 3: in to take over the defense. So I think that's

493
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Speaker 3: where a lot of my questions are with the I

494
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: mean there's questions everywhere. They lose a bunch of receivers,

495
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Speaker 3: you know, Chase Coda to Oregon, Kyle Phillips declares.

496
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Speaker 2: For the draft.

497
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: They've got guys that have been around forever. Just hard

498
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: to see the game changers, you know, dtr and Zach

499
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: Charbonney at their best can be quite entertaining and dangerous.

500
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Speaker 3: But it's a drive to drive thing with the UCLA offense,

501
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: is what it seemed last year, especially down the stretch.

502
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: There was some disappointment. I would say, so UCLA is

503
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 3: in an okay place, But it really is just a

504
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: matter of star power to me that it's not the

505
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: offensive line. You know, it's a bunch of fifth year

506
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: seniors leading away, or there's you know, a bunch of

507
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: linebackers like we saw during the Jim Moore era. You know,

508
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks and Anthony Barr type guy. Like they just

509
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: there's there's a pretty low ceiling right now for UCLA

510
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: and then they can overcome it with good coaching, good

511
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: development guy. But like I just there's not a lot

512
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: of star power on this roster and with what they

513
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: did this spring, which is I mean, look, they didn't

514
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: have a spring game. There hasn't been a lot open

515
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: to the media. But there are guys. But where is

516
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 3: yah Where where is the energy and excitement coming from

517
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: with UCLA football? I think it remains an open question.

518
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: And you know, they bring in twins from North Texas

519
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: to play along the defensive line. Maybe they're promising. It's

520
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I don't know where the juice

521
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: is with the Bruins right now. All right, fair, Okay,

522
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: where we go next. Let's talk Penn State football.

523
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk Penn State football. I listened to this game,

524
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: A good chunk of this game in the radio. Nice.

525
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I listened to this one through the Vary Yepp Actually

526
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: good choice. Yeah, a lot of focus on the ground

527
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: for Penn State. A lot of focus on the ground.

528
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: I thought, Kevan Lee ran angry, my guy, Yeah, your

529
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: boy I thought he looked pretty good. I thought, you know,

530
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: it was good to see Nick Singleton out there, their

531
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: five star, number one running back recruit from Redding. He

532
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: didn't get a whole lot of action. He had the

533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: first carry of the game. He had a two point conversion,

534
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: but his stat line on the ground was four carries

535
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: for zero yards. Was never great, but he did catch

536
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 2: a nice one out of the backfield and showcase some

537
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: of what he brings to the roster. So you know,

538
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: the running game for Penn State is largely a function

539
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: of the offensive line, and the offensive line in this

540
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: game was grossly understaffed, which made it hard to really gauge. Yep,

541
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: is it good? Is it not good? We know from

542
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: watching Penn State the last two seasons that they need

543
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 2: to get better as a running entity. I don't care

544
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: who it is. I don't care if it's Singleton or

545
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: League or k Tron Allen, whoever it ends up being.

546
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: They need to get better as a rushing team, and

547
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: I expect that they're going to try and put some

548
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: focus into that this coming season. Whether or not they

549
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: get there, I think we'll determine to some extent the

550
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: success of this offense year two under Mike Erisic, can

551
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: they actually establish something of a running game. Doesn't need

552
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: to be run heavy, but it needs to at least

553
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: be a presence. They've just not had that. So in

554
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: terms of what's blurry, that's blurry.

555
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: We'd one hundred and twenty fifth most explosive rushing attack

556
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: in college football last year.

557
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, not good, right, You need to get better, especially

558
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: if you want to be in any kind of contention

559
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten. And they just weren't there. They

560
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: weren't there. You can't put it all on the arm

561
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: of Sean Clifford or whoever your quarterback is. It's just

562
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: not going to be a successful formula. So that to

563
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: me is still very blurry. The quarterback thing isn't blurry.

564
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: It's just not it's going to be Sean Clifford. We

565
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: saw Clifford in this game. He got some limited work.

566
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: I also think it's very in focus that the backup

567
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: is going to be Christian Value. He's the clear backup

568
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: at this point, even with Drew a La now on campus.

569
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: He came in, he got a little bit of work.

570
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: Didn't look great in his first action through two picks.

571
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: Definitely a little raw. Definitely not aid it at all

572
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: by wide receivers dropping passes and get help in that regard.

573
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear to me that he's got the talent

574
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: and that he will continue to develop and eventually he

575
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: will get there with some seasoning. But this is Sean

576
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Clifford's team. He came back for your one hundred and

577
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: twenty six whatever it is for him, you know, speaking

578
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: of John Stock of levels of longevity. Yeah, so Sean

579
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Clifford's going to be the guy. He's got his own

580
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: business talent on campus. That's how old are you for him?

581
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: But he's going to be the guy your two under

582
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Mike Russage. Hopefully he can stay healthy and that offense

583
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: will be a little bit more productive. I'm really into

584
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: Mitchell Tinsley, Okay, who transferred up from Western Kentuck. He

585
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: had fourteen hundred yards last season for the Hilltoppers. His

586
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: a dot my favorite stat average depth of target over

587
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: twelve yards, which would put him in in rarefied air

588
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: as compared to the Penn State receiver room last year,

589
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: and that was a good receiver room.

590
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: But I was going to say, like, who is that

591
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: guy who is going to be the gravitational pull that

592
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: you know kJ Hamler was two years ago in Johan

593
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: Doadt is probably Park of Washington.

594
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, who didn't play in this game, But Mitchell Tinsley

595
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: I thought made a really good name for himself. We

596
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: saw some others, but Mitchell Tinsley especially definitely has Tennessee

597
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: to blow the top off a defense, and all right,

598
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: that is exciting if you are a Penn State fan.

599
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: So I think they're going to be in good shape

600
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: on the receiver end, despite the fact that they're going

601
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: to lose dots in a few days time here to

602
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: the NFL. And then beyond that, you know, to what

603
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: extent you can read into the new Many Diaz defense,

604
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Penn State's always solid defensively, right solid defensively. They lose

605
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: a lot, they lose a lot. So I think there

606
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: will continue to be questions about, all right, who can

607
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: plug the gap, who can step up, who can give

608
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: the same level of productivity that these guys walking out

609
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: the door gave in twenty twenty one. You're gonna have that.

610
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: But by and large, to the extent that we can

611
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: read anything into what we saw from the Blue White game,

612
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: the defense looks solid. Enough. It just now looks solid enough.

613
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: Not the least of which is losing. According to a

614
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech message board poster, Brent Prize Hog, Brent Price Hog. Yeah,

615
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: Brent prices massive hog that the Virginia Tech message board

616
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: poster apparently noticed during an introductory press conference. No right

617
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: to bring up the hog, I of course, always, always, always,

618
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, My question is what do you do to

619
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: not lose three point games every other week? What do

620
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: you do to not lose to Michigan State by three,

621
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Speaker 3: to Michigan to four. I mean they were in the

622
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: Ohio State game, the Iowa game. Obviously Sean Clifford goes down,

623
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: but like on the margins, like where is Penn State

624
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: slightly bad to pull out three to five point games

625
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: that they just lot? Like how many games are they

626
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: winning last year? If they pull out the close calls

627
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: ten eleven game, that's the difference.

628
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you one. And I don't have the

629
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: numbers in front of me, but I know that this

630
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: is an area of emphasis, and they talked about it

631
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: a lot in the broadcast. Third and short, Yeah, third

632
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 2: and short for this team was a real issue last season,

633
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: and so whether it's a function of your play calling

634
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: when you're passing the football or getting a push up

635
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: front with your offensive line, being able to convert on

636
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: like third and two is a big deal for this team.

637
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: That's one area, speaking of those margins, where if they

638
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: can definitely improve their conversion rate, that's going to take

639
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: them places. I don't know if they're winning three more

640
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: games because of that, but it is these small details,

641
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: these finer points of football that eventually have taken in totality,

642
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: can help win a couple more games.

643
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: I think it's a great answer. There were eighty fifth

644
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: in third and short success rate, ninety fifth on defense

645
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: on third and short, and nationally the three and out

646
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: percentage they went three and out thirty one point three

647
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: percent of the time. That was eighty eighth nationally. Obviously,

648
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: the defense did a much better job getting off the field,

649
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: but that offense getting off the field, it's it's so

650
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: helpful for opponents if your offense can't stay on the field.

651
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: And so I think you're absolutely right. I think if

652
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: Penn State's offense is in a much better rhythm in

653
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: high leverage moments, they're probably winning a couple more games.

654
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: Certainly winning the Illinois game, So no doubt about it.

655
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: But answer let me stick in the big ten here

656
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: because I was also really curious to do some investigative

657
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: work on Iowa. Yeah, Iowa had its spring game as well.

658
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: A couple interesting factors on the Iowa side, right, Iowa,

659
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: I think as we have come to know them in

660
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: this Kirk Farence, in this Brian Farrence era is a

661
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: team that plays sound defense, runs the football, doesn't get

662
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: much out of quarterback. Whenever they get anything out of

663
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 2: quarter back, they win ten eleven games.

664
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they beat teams like Ohio State when Nate Stanley

665
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: has an out of body, out of body experience. Yeah, exactly,

666
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: But that that's kind of the mo for the Iowa project, probe,

667
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: whatever you want.

668
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: To call it. In recent memory. Yeah, this season, what's

669
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: in focus, what's clearly in focus, is that the defense

670
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: is going to be really, really good, nice and we

671
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: saw that in the spring game, and that was despite

672
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: being down a couple guys, they looked really sound. Scott Doctorman,

673
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: who writes for The Athletic, We've quoted Scott a bunch

674
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: of times here in the show in the past, but

675
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: he's all in on LVN. Dan miss van Ness. He

676
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: is a sophomore. He was a freshman last year, sophomore

677
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: this year had seven sacks six five, two seventy five.

678
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: He's touting him. He's all in on LVN. So we'll

679
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: have to keep our eyes peeled in LVN. But it

680
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: it seems as if the defense is again going to

681
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: be in a really good spot. What is I think

682
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: blurry out of focus? Definitely worth at least considering thinking

683
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: about as we get into previews, as we get into

684
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: the early part of the season. Twofold for Iowa, which

685
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: is weird to say. First, offensive line.

686
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, lose linder Lindenbaum. Linderbaum.

687
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: The center, Yeah, losing Tyler Lindenbaum. And we didn't get

688
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: much in the way of answers in the spring game

689
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: because the offensive line is nicked up. Okay, why guys

690
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't play? Big question about that line, Big question about

691
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: the running game. So many of these good Iowa teams

692
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: that we've seen in the past have had really good

693
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: rushing attacks, annoyingly good rushing attacks. You know what's coming,

694
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: you can't it' said.

695
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you think Iowa's had great

696
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: rushing attacks?

697
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: Good enough, good enough? They haven't had great quarterback play,

698
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying in recent memory, Dan, I'm not

699
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: saying in recent memory. And that's part of the problem, okay,

700
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: But so many of the Iowa teams that have gone

701
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: want to be very productive, very successful, and constantly be

702
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: at the necks of like an Iowa or an Ohio

703
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: State teams that they're not supposed to be as good

704
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: at Michigan, it's been because they've been able to be

705
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: somewhat consistent on the ground. Iowa has not been up

706
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: to those standards as of late, and you would think

707
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: they need to fix that this coming season, plain and simple.

708
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: That much is both blurry and and focus. You need

709
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: to fix your line play, you need to fix your

710
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: ground attack because Tyler Goodson last year, for as much

711
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: as we like to talk about him, he got tackled

712
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage a lot, an awful one.

713
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 2: And they need to be better at being north south

714
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: and getting back into sort of that vein of Iowa

715
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: football because because I don't know what's going on at quarterback.

716
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, uh, you're saying running back and the

717
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: rush game is the focus, but man, everything on offense

718
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: needs needs improvement. Because this is a team that defensively

719
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: they're so sound. They develop pass rushers, they develop linebackers,

720
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: and they generate turnovers in a in a way that

721
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: is not normal. Right, that that zone specific look with

722
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: they where they train the secondary, the eyes of the secondary.

723
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: They're so strong about those passing lanes in that zone

724
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: that they're going to constantly have opportunities to beat teams

725
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: that are more talented, you know whatever. And it's just

726
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: going to be a matter of the offense of uh,

727
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: the offense holding up its end of the bargain.

728
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: Kirk Farrence said that Spencer Peatris is slightly ahead of

729
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Alex Padilla Padilla, he of the noted Padilla Flotilla. Mm hmm.

730
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: If you watch this game, there's no way that you

731
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: could put Spencer Peatris ahead of Alex Padilla, right, you can't.

732
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how you could. He's just not good.

733
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: He's not been good. He still isn't good.

734
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 3: And now Brian Farrens has more authority over the offense.

735
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, now he's ins a the quarterbacks. I

736
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do. Spencer Peatrice has not

737
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: been good. He wasn't good in this game. It was windy.

738
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: It was a windy and the line was shaky. We

739
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: just talked about the line. Yeah, but he missed a

740
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: lot of throws. He missed a lot of throws. If

741
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: you've seen Spencer Peatrice at all over the last couple

742
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: of seasons at Iowa, that was the Spencer Patrice that

743
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: you saw in the spring game. Right, there's no big improvement.

744
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: At least he can take Padilla, you can put him

745
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: on the run a little bit. He's not a statue

746
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: back there. He definitely has a different skill set. Yeah,

747
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I hope that they go with Padilla.

748
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

749
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

750
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say about this. I

751
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: just don't think Spencer Peatrice is that good. I don't

752
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: think they know how to use them. I don't think

753
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: they know how to develop him. And at least, if

754
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: you've got a guy like a Padilla who's not a

755
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: dual threat guy, but at least it can run, move

756
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: the pocket, try if your line is shaky, at least

757
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: have more options there with him. I don't know if

758
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: they're going to know how to harness any of their

759
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks because it doesn't seem like they ever really have.

760
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: But that's the state of play at quarterback. I'm fascinated

761
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: to see how that plays out because it's not quite

762
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: to the Brian Kelly level. But i am I'm just

763
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: not confident that Iowa knows how to handle any kind

764
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: of quarterback contest.

765
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet Iowa won ten games. Last they wont

766
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: ten games and yeah, ten games. Yeah, it was an

767
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: odd season, and I positive Iowa fans would choose to

768
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: forget what the Big Ten championship game look like against Michigan.

769
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 3: But despite it all, there is a formula in place,

770
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: and so it is easy for us to say, you know,

771
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: modernize and be more aggressive about what your offense is

772
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: and how you find and develop quarterbacks because what has

773
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: been working lately has not worked actually so. But on

774
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: the other hand, their path to ten games is pretty

775
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: consistent year in and year out. So yeah, we just

776
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: want the best you. We want the best for you.

777
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: Iya.

778
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Well, we want the best that you can be. And

779
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: I will leaves a little bit on the table to

780
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: say the least, Why don't.

781
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: We close out the show with this, talk to me

782
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: about Oregon. Talk to me about Oregon. Give me them vibes. Yeah,

783
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: I love those vibes. Those vibes. Tell me what you

784
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: think of Oregon, what you thought of the spring game,

785
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: what you thought, what you thought of spring practice of

786
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning, a food and Eugene of whatever you want

787
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: to talk about as it relates to Oregon Ducks football,

788
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: University of Oregon. More broadly speaking, where are we at

789
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: with things? And then, as we said at the top, Yeah,

790
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a special guest, Tyson Alger stop it

791
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: on from the I five corridor to give his thoughts

792
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: on where things stand.

793
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm super into Dan Lanning, and it's because it's spring.

794
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: It's because the recruiting has been really impressive early on

795
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: for somebody who hasn't. I mean it has been for

796
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: Notre Dame too with Marcus Freeman, but he's been there

797
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: for over a year now. I have questions about assistant coaches,

798
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: namely Kenny Dillingham, though some of it was answered in

799
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: the spring game because they were going downfield. The receivers

800
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: look strong, the running backs look good. The starting running

801
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: back Byron Cardwell didn't play. The presumed starting running back

802
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 3: Byron Cardwell, but Sean Dollars and seven McGee is all

803
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 3: over the field. I'm excited about what this offense could

804
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: be around presumably Bonix, which I'm less excited about, but

805
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: kind of excited because he made some nice passes in

806
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: the spring game. Defensively, the good thing about Oregon on

807
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: defense and everywhere is I don't remember the last time

808
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: I would hear a second stringer or a third stringer's

809
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: name and be like, oh, yeah, he's pretty good. That

810
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 3: there was always like, hey it'sle Michael James. Hey it's

811
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: a LOADI nata. But like that they've recruited so well

812
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: and that they haven't had to use the guys as early.

813
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: That they've been allowing these guys, these blue chip guys

814
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: to develop as backups. That's new. That to me is

815
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: interesting and new. They didn't play their defensive line, their

816
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: starting defensive line in the spring game. Justin Flow, who

817
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: is a five star linebacker. He's been injured and didn't

818
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: play in the spring game, but should be good by

819
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: fall camp. Like, there's just there's a lot of interesting

820
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: talent to this team on all levels. That especially receiver.

821
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: Receiver gets me the most excited. Running Back is interesting,

822
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: offensive line is interesting, Linebacker is as deep as it's

823
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: been in the past few years. The secondary I think

824
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: is thin but interesting.

825
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I just definiley into Dan Lanning?

826
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Are we are we really into Dan Lanning and the

827
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: new coaching staff in the same way that you're on

828
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: pizza message boards? Are we are we into it on

829
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: the message board level? Or nah? Like? Define what really

830
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: into means for you As an Oregon fan.

831
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: I think Dan Lanning is the type of coach who

832
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: can maximize what Oregon is based on his age, his

833
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: ability to hire assistance, his ability to build up an

834
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: organization and operation on the recruiting side of things, I

835
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: think he has a good amount of appeal to people

836
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: of all ages, recruits, assistance, stoners like. I think he

837
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: comes across really well publicly and privately from everything I've heard,

838
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: so I'm into the ceiling of somebody like that. From

839
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: everything I've heard, he has resonated very well with all

840
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: of the most important people within a program. So that

841
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: has me excited. How can you not be excited about

842
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: somebody who recruits well and is well liked within a program.

843
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: We'll see when it's a completely to the studs. It

844
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: feels like overhaul from the Mario Cristobal era. I loved

845
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: the potential of having Joe Morhead as an offensive coordinator

846
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: as an Oregon fan. It didn't really come to fruition,

847
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: largely because of the limitations at quarterback these past couple

848
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: of years. But there was a lot to love about

849
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: the Mario Christaball era of Oregon. But in terms of

850
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: what Oregon could have done in hiring a head coach

851
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: and what they did do and what I think he's

852
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: already done in terms of exceeding expectations both hiring and recruiting,

853
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 3: I think excitement is warranted. Look why I feel the

854
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: way I do.

855
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm not judging. It's okay, I'm simpatico. I've watched every

856
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman video on YouTube. I've seen them all. I've

857
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: sent them to mom age.

858
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've watched all of them, so I guess, Yeah,

859
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 3: you've watched all of the Marcus Freeman head coached first halves.

860
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: That's what I've done. Yeah, I've done that too, all

861
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: of the first halves. But every podcast interview he's done

862
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: with Chris Zorich or Colin cow anybody. I've watched them all.

863
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I know him. Personally, So I'm very

864
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: much with you on that front. Was there anything that

865
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: you've either seen in Spring thus far or read about

866
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: anything that's really concerning to you, Because there's a lot

867
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: of optimism here right whenever you've got the new coach,

868
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: especially somebody as excitable as Dan Lanning hops Spring's eternal

869
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah what what Bonnicks? Yeah?

870
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 3: Bonix is the probable starter. Ty Thompson hasn't developed as

871
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: a a former heralded recruit. If if he were immediately

872
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: ready last year, he probably would have supplanted Anthony Brown

873
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: at some low points and bo Nicks for all of

874
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: the good and improved bo Knicks we saw four stretches

875
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: last year. We'll just make three and a half to

876
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: six and a half boneheaded throws a game, and maybe

877
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: it's an easier conference defensively that makes him better this

878
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: year and brings him closer to above average or something

879
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: like that. He's got good receivers, he should have a

880
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: good offensive line in front of him. People seem to

881
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: like Kenny Dillingham as an offensive mind, has good offensive assistance.

882
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: There are pieces in place for him to succeed. Now

883
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: gets Georgia Week one not ideal, has played Georgia before,

884
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: has not really succeeded against Georgia before, But I think

885
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: he'll be put in a position to win a lot

886
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: of games. Pack twelve is certainly a conference in upheaval

887
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: with new coaches seemingly everywhere. But I mean, what can you.

888
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: Count on with bon Nicks.

889
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: You count on like seven to nine times a game

890
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: saying I think he's kind of figured it out, and

891
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: seven to nine times a game saying why do you

892
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: do that?

893
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: Why the hell did he do that? Yeah, in that

894
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: precise tone too, in that exact tone, you raised the register. Yeah.

895
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: Now, look, the hope if you're an Oregon fan is

896
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: that he's improved and a fresh start. I've said all

897
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: this before, but usually by a quarterback's fourth year kind

898
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: of are what they are for better or worse. So

899
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: that's the concern to me that Oregon. I don't have

900
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: this schedule in front of me, but I know they

901
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 3: have Oregon. I think Eastern Washington, excuse me, Georgia Eastern

902
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Washington and BYU early on in the schedule, and their

903
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: road home splits I think are favorable, but could lose

904
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: a game of two with some weird decision making that's

905
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: the concern that to me is no matter how well,

906
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: how deep, how you know creative, this team is on

907
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. You know, you hear all

908
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: the reports, you know publicly and privately. Defense is flying around. Man,

909
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: They're playing with a new kind of energy. It's amazing.

910
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Can only do so much to win a

911
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: game on defense, That's the problem.

912
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Should we get to Tyson.

913
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: It is my pleasure, it is my honor, It is

914
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: my shameless, homery pleasure to bring in Tyson Alger from

915
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: the ifive corridor. That's I dash the number five corridor

916
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: in reference to the interstate that runs through central western Oregon.

917
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: I believe all the way down the coast of California,

918
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: or all the way down California up into Seattle, I

919
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: believe hits I five as well. It's always the five

920
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: to me as a lame southern Californian. But and I

921
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: got corrected so many times when I went to school

922
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: in Eugene. But Tyson Alger, formerly The Athletic, formerly of

923
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: the Oregonian, has covered Oregon football for a long long time,

924
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: and there is a ton of terrific content on I

925
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: five corridor, which you can subscribe to and per ruse

926
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: right this very second. Tyson, how's life?

927
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: How you doing?

928
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: Hey? Thanks for having me on, Guys.

929
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: I really appreciate First of all, I really appreciate you

930
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: bringing me on, despite my egregious snubbing of you in

931
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: the in the organ Twitter fifty.

932
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Hi, did you see that? Do I had that references? No,

933
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: I had heard rumblings. I felt a disturbance in the forest.

934
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't exactly sure what it was. What are we

935
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: talking about here?

936
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: So Tyson made a terrific list of the fifty must

937
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: follow Twitter Oregon football voices. And I don't think I'm

938
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: number one. I don't think i'm number fourteen. Boy, you're

939
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: given top fifty. I'm out here with scalding hot takes

940
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: about Blair Phillips twenty years after, like come on, Like,

941
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 3: I gotta get on that list.

942
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: The beautiful thing about putting that together is I had

943
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: layered in multiple safety valves for myself, So there was

944
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 4: a lot of like, it's my top fifty list.

945
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: That might not be your top fifty.

946
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 4: Least totally or I don't even know if I had

947
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: the word top in there, it was just fifty Twitter

948
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: accounts that I appreciate and the beauty is is I

949
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: appreciate way more than fifty.

950
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: So you know, next year, next year, we might have

951
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: a spot for you.

952
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: There were people I'm totally making this up time. There

953
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: were people on the list that were like Duck Marvel,

954
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: dude forty four and he's like, he's pretty funny, Like

955
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 3: I got a hind like really interesting takes during games,

956
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: and I didn't make it and I didn't get in,

957
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: so that's okay, we'll settle that off are.

958
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 4: The best thing that came out of that was one

959
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: of those random guys. Yeah, you might actually follow him.

960
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: His name is Jeromny on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, I included

961
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 4: him as well as a Madra Shad and Dromney went

962
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: about photoshopping a photo of the NBA fifty fifty eight

963
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: count of all their faces on there. Which the best

964
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: part of that is I'm pretty sure a Madra Shod

965
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: was m seeing that event.

966
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: Very nice.

967
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a monitor to respond to thumbs ups

968
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: to it. So, like the big engagement play, it was

969
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 4: a raging success.

970
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: It all right.

971
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: We are now a mere forty eight ish hours after

972
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: the Oregon Spring Game. I don't know if it's necessarily

973
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: a conversation I want to have specifically about a spring game,

974
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: because there's only so much you can glean from like

975
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: a pseudo practice scrimmage. But this is just sort of

976
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: a post spring check in on what I'm going to

977
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: consider to be.

978
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: Just the vibes.

979
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: You like this, you like this tie, you like I'm throwing.

980
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: A little bit. I don't know why.

981
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: It's like drone shot over Italian Islands, a little bit

982
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: of like Netflix intro there.

983
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate that.

984
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: But let's start with the vibes in terms of the

985
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: transition between Mario Cristobal and Dan Lanning. Obviously Mario Cristobal

986
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: that's sort of steely intensity, grizzly presence. You know, you

987
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: see the videos of the players in the weight room

988
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: screaming like velociraptors, and so just in general, from what

989
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 3: you can gather, how have the vibes continued, How have

990
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: the vibes differed between the crystal Ball and landing eras.

991
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: It's one of those weird things because like the crystal

992
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: Ball era was undoubtedly as success at organ I mean

993
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: to kind of come out of what they had, I mean,

994
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: after the Taggart fiasco a year after the Healthridge thing.

995
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: There was four successful years, but last year was one

996
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: of the most, especially coming out of the COVID season.

997
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: Like last year was one of the more depressing organ

998
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 4: seasons I've been around, just because, like Crystaball did run

999
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 4: that program as basically it was it was serious all

1000
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 4: the time, like it couldn't make fun of itself. Like

1001
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 4: it was just like everyone was so tight all year,

1002
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 4: and that ran through the team, it ran through the staff,

1003
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: it ran through the media corps. I mean, you know,

1004
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 4: myself included. I think the quality of overall organ stories

1005
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: the last year was was pretty bad just because access

1006
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: was you know, it just felt like that they didn't

1007
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 4: want any anything that wasn't perfectly out of their vision

1008
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: out in the public. And so, you know, I give

1009
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 4: Dan Lanning so much credit because the way that he

1010
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: was hired and what he came into, whether it be

1011
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: like right after the ball I mean right before the

1012
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: bowl game, you know he has to go do the

1013
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: National Championship. You had the whole organ thing with the

1014
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: past players signing that letter about you know, we want

1015
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: a local guy doing this. Considering all that the vibes

1016
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 4: have been spectacular, Like I got the Spring game. The

1017
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: Saturday Spring Game was one of the most fun times

1018
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: I've had being around Oregon in probably four or five years.

1019
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: It was just everyone's laid back, that the coaching staff

1020
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: feels kind of confident about themselves in an organic and

1021
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 4: genuine way. Like it didn't really I was a little

1022
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: worried because all these teams are turning these spring games

1023
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: into just these huge recruiting showcases, and it's right, and

1024
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 4: I feel like you can lose out on a lot

1025
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: of kind of just like how genuine a place is

1026
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 4: and that Like I remember with crist of Ball two

1027
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: years ago when they were trying to get Dju over

1028
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 4: there and they shipped in Jeremiah Masley for that game,

1029
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: and Oregon hadn't even officially associated with Jeremiah solely right

1030
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: since they kicked him off the team ten years ago,

1031
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 4: and it just kind of felt it just felt weird

1032
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: at times. And so this, you know, just just talking

1033
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: to everyone associated around Oregon, like it's way more laid back,

1034
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: but at the same time, like they're still recruiting at

1035
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: a really good level right now, and like, you know,

1036
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what you can glean from a spring

1037
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: game where like all four of your defensive alignment are

1038
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: out injured and not playing, but like the.

1039
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Product looked fine.

1040
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: Like like I'm not ready to make any like bold

1041
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: predictions on how good this team's going to be, but

1042
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 4: I think the I think people in Eugene feel way

1043
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: more relaxed about this than they thought they were going

1044
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: to be in December when Crystal Ball announced he was leaving.

1045
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: How has Dan Lanning been It seems he's been received

1046
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 3: exceptionally well, but by people inside of the program, by

1047
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: players who I mean, it's a lot of change. The

1048
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 3: entire staff is gone, that recruited that coach them. I mean,

1049
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: it's no different than any other coaching change. But Dan

1050
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: Lanning had no connection at all to this program and

1051
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 3: he comes in and he needs to immediately retain a

1052
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: quite talented roster, maintain a program that has been winning

1053
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: or competing for the Pac twelve these past few years.

1054
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: How has he resonated with players, administrators, support staff? Like,

1055
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: what is the early word on his interpersonal abilities?

1056
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: Players really like him, and I think the age thing helps.

1057
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: And you know that's something that a lot of us

1058
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: like tried to you know, highlight a little bit. You know,

1059
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: you got a thirty five, thirty six year old head

1060
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: coach and a thirty two year old offensive coordinator. It's

1061
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: a pretty young staff. But I do think that that

1062
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: helps him relate to the players really well. You know, again,

1063
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: like Christabaal had, this had this kind of I'm the

1064
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: big boss sort of approach and mentality, and I think

1065
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: I think it was kind of tough for players to

1066
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 4: relate to him a little bit. And so you know,

1067
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: I think you saw it right out of the gate

1068
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: when he got hired. I mean seven McGee jumped into

1069
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: the transfer portal and twenty four hours later he's out

1070
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: Sam with Sean Dollers, Like these two really good running

1071
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 4: backs that Landing at least wanted to give a fair

1072
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: look to to it, just to get a fair evaluation.

1073
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: And so I think them kind of I think there's

1074
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: an overall feeling that everyone's going to get a fair chance.

1075
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, like he's a very.

1076
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 4: He's very prepared, he's very serious at times, but also

1077
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: like talking with staff specifically, he's also very deferential, like

1078
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 4: he's willing to collaborate. It's not necessarily like his way

1079
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: or the highway, And I think that's a pretty great

1080
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: quality to have in his position, especially with how young

1081
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 4: he is and kind of the things that he needs

1082
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 4: to experience as a first year head coach going into

1083
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: this season.

1084
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: The huge question looming over the program over spring and

1085
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: over I think the early part of this new staff,

1086
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: in this new era is what does the offense look like?

1087
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1088
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham had never been a full time play caller

1089
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: coordinator in his years at whether it's you know, Memphis,

1090
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: Auburn or Florida State and Dan Lanning's defensive coach, and

1091
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: so nobody really knew what his vision was going to be. No,

1092
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: he had film on what they assumed part of what

1093
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: Oregon would be. You've been to practice, I assume, or

1094
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: been around, and you obviously were at the spring game.

1095
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: What question do you think was answered, if any, about

1096
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: what the Oregon offense is going to look like moving forward.

1097
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 4: This is going to sound so simplistic, but I just

1098
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: I just wanted to see whether or not they would

1099
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: kind of embrace being explosive. I mean, you watched enough

1100
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 4: crystal ball football the last four years to probably get

1101
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 4: a little frustrated by third down and three and rushing

1102
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: out of.

1103
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: The pistol right, yep.

1104
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: And so the one thing that we've heard a lot,

1105
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: especially from players over the last four weeks, has just

1106
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: been like, this is an offensive system that's designed to

1107
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: give us the ball out in space and for us

1108
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: to go and make moves. And talking to seven McGee

1109
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, he has not been shy

1110
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: to like throw out the Chip Kelly reference, which I

1111
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: think probably gives every organ offensive coord coordinator post Chip

1112
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: Kelly just a little bit of a shiver.

1113
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: Yep.

1114
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: I remember talking. I did a profile on Joe Moorehead

1115
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: last year and one of his former Fordham quarterbacks had

1116
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 4: compared him to Chip Kelly, and I had mentioned that

1117
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: to Morehead afterwards, and Morehead just kind of gave me

1118
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: a are you kidding me? Like why would you say that? Yeah,

1119
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 4: but the guys at Oregon right now aren't kind of

1120
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: shy about about throwing that out there. You know, I

1121
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: don't obviously they're not going to play with the tempo

1122
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 4: that the Kelly Ducks did. But boy, just talk about

1123
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: making a statement. First play from the spring game, they

1124
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: take a seventy yard shot like that. That's just something

1125
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 4: that we didn't really see in the Crystal Ball offenses,

1126
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 4: they were very conservative. They relied very heavily on offensive

1127
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: line play and defense. And I mean, obviously, this is

1128
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: a team that's coached by Georgia's former defensive coordinator, so

1129
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a heavy defensive focus on this team.

1130
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: But I really do think that they're going to let

1131
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 4: Kenny Dillingham open things up to whatever extent that he wants.

1132
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: And obviously some of that will will be predicated on

1133
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: the play at the quarterback. But from what I've seen

1134
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: from bo Nicks and just kind of with his his

1135
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: pedigree of being an above average quarterback, I think this

1136
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: offense is really going to score some points, especially with

1137
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 4: some of the playmakers. They have a wide receiver.

1138
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: You mentioned the bomb, the seventy yard bomb to seven

1139
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: McGee to open up the spring game. Bo Knicks had

1140
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: another one later in the game, a touchdown to Dante Thornton.

1141
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks coming up from Auburn caught a lot of

1142
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: people off guard, myself included. I have never been a

1143
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: huge bow Knicks fan. I thought bow Knix looked better

1144
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: last season for Auburn, but obviously his career I think

1145
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: has been defined in fits and starts now. From the

1146
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: Oregon standpoint, if you're trying to build a more explosive system,

1147
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: I could certainly see how Knicks would be an upgrade

1148
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: over where Oregon was under Crystal Ball last season. But

1149
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: from your vantage point, what was your reaction to Nicks

1150
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: coming up to Eugene? What have you seen, what have

1151
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: you heard thus far? What's your level of confidence that

1152
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: he can truly take this offense to a different level

1153
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: from where it's been.

1154
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: I think in a perfect situation, Bo Knicks wouldn't be

1155
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: at a or I think everyone, most fans probably wanted

1156
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: to see the development of Ty Thompson to a point

1157
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: where it's just like, hey, we have the top rated

1158
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: recruit at quarterback we've ever had before. He should probably

1159
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: be ready to start as a red shirt freshman, because

1160
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: that's college football in twenty twenty two, and he's just

1161
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: not to that point, you know. I think whether I

1162
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 4: don't know how much tape Dillingham or how much you know,

1163
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: film dilling Ham and Landing had seen on Thompson, you know,

1164
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: leading into this season, but obviously Dillingham's familiarity with Nicks

1165
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: wanted to at least bring him in as at least

1166
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: just like a plan B. And you know from people

1167
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 4: that I've talked to on Organ's last staff, like you know,

1168
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: they there were games last year where they were just

1169
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: about to put Ty Thompson in and Anthony Brown then

1170
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: had one last good drive that kind of like staved

1171
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: it off until the next game. And so it wasn't

1172
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: necessarily that Anthony Brown was heads and tails above Ty Thompson.

1173
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: It was just it was it was close enough that

1174
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: you want to decide with the veteran. But you know,

1175
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 4: throughout the spring you've seen kind of a mixture of

1176
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: Thompson running with the ones, but Knicks running with the ones.

1177
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if Jay Butterfield at some point

1178
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: ran with the ones. But this is all during the

1179
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes of practice that they know where people are

1180
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 4: going to be tweeting out the lineups, and I think

1181
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: a lot of that is just gamesmanship to try to

1182
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: keep players on the roster throughout the summer. After seeing

1183
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: them in a few practices in the spring games, it's

1184
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: pretty clear that Nicks is ahead of both of those guys.

1185
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't.

1186
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 4: Thompson's a tough one because especially when you're standing next

1187
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: to him. He is so physically impressive, Like he's six

1188
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: foot five, he's got these just pythons for arms, Like

1189
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: he can run, like he looks like he would be

1190
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: a great quarterback. He just it doesn't look like he

1191
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: makes the reads as quick as he needs to. Yet

1192
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: he doesn't quite have the touch that Nick that Nick

1193
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: showed in that game, and so like, I don't think

1194
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: that he's a lost cause by any point, but I

1195
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 4: think just you know, when you have a three year

1196
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: sec starting quarterback who has had moderate success, I think

1197
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: that's still puts him pretty pretty clearly ahead of the

1198
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: other two on the depth chart.

1199
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: Right now.

1200
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: I realize any spring game it's impossible to glean too much,

1201
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: but there were five turnovers in the Oregon spring game.

1202
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a bit of a chicken egg question,

1203
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: but were the turnovers more a function of stellar defense

1204
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: or an offense that was out of sync? And how

1205
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: do we project that forward now as we try as

1206
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: best we can in late April to how that translates

1207
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: to games come September.

1208
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: If if you ask Lanning and he'll he'll make a

1209
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: case about how this is a defense that's really emphasizing

1210
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 4: turnovers and takeaways. But then right now, of course you will, right,

1211
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: but I haven't come across the college football defense that

1212
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: doesn't want takeaways and turnovers and never happened. Nix's interception

1213
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: was a bad throw. Thompson had two bad throws for interceptions.

1214
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: I think that might end up being a bit of

1215
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: a bit of an issue, especially early in the seas

1216
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: and especially with I really like Organ's wide receiver corps

1217
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: Dante Thornton's going to be a monster like that kid

1218
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: can run.

1219
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: He's six foot five.

1220
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: But none of these guys have played before, Like, I

1221
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: think there's going to be some sink issues. Like I

1222
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: do think that the offensive turnovers definitely could be a

1223
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 4: problem for the Ducks, especially early in the year.

1224
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 3: If you're looking at a position group that if Oregon

1225
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: does hit its ceiling, whatever that is this year, it

1226
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: doesn't appear to be quarterback as it's been sometimes in

1227
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: years past. What is the position group or area of

1228
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: the field that appears to be as close to a

1229
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: sure thing as it could be.

1230
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 4: The offensive line has a very high floor. They're returning

1231
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: essentially their entire offensive line from a year before. I

1232
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: don't think that those guys were especially you know, this

1233
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: isn't like Christa Ball's twenty nineteen offensive line. It's not

1234
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: quite at that level of you know, you don't have

1235
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: a penny stool anchoring the left side.

1236
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: But they'll be solid.

1237
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: If Justin Flower can stay healthy, I think the combination

1238
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: of him and Noah Sewell could be just one of

1239
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 4: the most fun things to watch. Flow has played like

1240
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: one and a half games in his organ career. The

1241
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: one game he started last year, he had fourteen tackles.

1242
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 4: He was everywhere on the field. He might have been one.

1243
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: It might have been one of the most fun defensive

1244
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: performances that I've watched at Oregon. And then he was

1245
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: gone for the whole rest of the year. And so

1246
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 4: if they can keep those two five star guys healthy

1247
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 4: at that metal level, it will be really fun to watch,

1248
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: just especially because you know you are losing a dynamic

1249
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 4: player like Kevon Tibodeau. You know, the back end is

1250
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: a huge question because Veron McKinley's gone. You have multiple

1251
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: new starters at safety and cornerback, and so yeah, that

1252
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: the linebackers, I think that's going to be the biggest

1253
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: difference between whether or not they are a super dynamic

1254
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: defense or not.

1255
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 3: Oregon didn't hesitate and most teams don't now. Organ didn't

1256
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 3: hesitate to hit the portal to fill in gaps they

1257
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: felt they had on the roster, or to fill in

1258
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: gaps because guys on last year's squad decided to transfer.

1259
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: If you look at the guys who have come in

1260
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: and aside from Bonnicks obviously, so there's at least one,

1261
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: it looks like two defensive linemen. I think there's a

1262
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: guy from Nebraska who has not made his way yet

1263
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: to campus, but there's a Washington transfer on the defensive

1264
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: line of Colorado transfer Christian Gonzales at corner, a running

1265
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 3: back transfer, and Noah Whittingham Chase Coda at receiver from UCLA.

1266
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 3: It was an Oregon legacy. Who do you anticipate making

1267
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: the biggest impact of those guys and or is it

1268
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: somebody who is not even on campus yet? You're like,

1269
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: they just need this person to earn this position to

1270
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: make an impact. Who is the name that will mean

1271
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: the most? That is a new face.

1272
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: Chase Coda looked really good during the spring game, and

1273
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's going to be a guy

1274
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: that's going to go for like one hundred yards every game.

1275
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 4: But he does kind of look like that reliable, like

1276
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 4: throw to him in third down when you need a

1277
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 4: conversion sort of guy. Like he was making tough catches.

1278
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: He was all over the field. He looks pretty tough.

1279
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: I think he's going to get a lot of play.

1280
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: And then Christian Gonzales at corner. You know, he had

1281
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 4: a pretty solid career at Colorado and this is just

1282
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: an Oregon secondary that needs some experience and leaders. I

1283
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: mentioned it earlier, but I think the loss of Veron

1284
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: McKinley is going to be a really tough one for

1285
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 4: that group, just because he you know, he was a

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Speaker 4: good player, but also he was the guy that was,

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Speaker 4: you know, like a third coach in that defensive back.

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Speaker 1: In the room there. And Gonzalez is a big dude.

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Speaker 4: Like That's the one thing that's going to be interesting

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Speaker 4: to watch about organ secondary is like Gonzalez is a.

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Speaker 1: Big dude at corner.

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Speaker 4: And then they've moved both Brian Addison and Trequz Bridges

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Speaker 4: over to safety and both of those guys look like

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Speaker 4: they should be playing like wing on. Dana Alman's basketball

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Speaker 4: teams are just lengthy. They got they got arms, and

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Speaker 4: so in Addison's I've been waiting like four years to

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Speaker 4: see what Addison can be as a football player, because

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Speaker 4: he was he was one of christ Ball's first big recruits.

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Speaker 4: He was a top one hundred guy that was previously

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Speaker 4: committed to USC. I believe he came in as a wider. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: at UCLA, he came in as a wide receiver. And

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Speaker 4: like everyone for years has been talking about like how

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Speaker 4: physically gifted this guy is, and they've been bouncing him

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Speaker 4: around between receiver and defensive back for the last three

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Speaker 4: years and people have been pretty positive about how he's

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Speaker 4: looked as safety, and so I think that will be

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Speaker 4: definitely a fun one to watch here coming up.

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Speaker 3: May Or may not have dropped a touchdown pass against

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Speaker 3: a bo Nix Aubury team. May or may not in

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Speaker 3: the back of the ends, It's okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: We move forward.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the defensive line, it's a fascinating

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Speaker 3: group because there is a lot back, but noticeably missing

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Speaker 3: is the player who was the ultimate game changer, who,

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Speaker 3: no matter how beat up your defense is or how

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Speaker 3: shakier secondary may appear, get to the quarterback in Caveon Thibodeau,

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Speaker 3: Is there an obvious answer for who steps into that

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Speaker 3: kind of gap, And in terms of what the talent

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Speaker 3: looks like there, which I think is strong, maybe a

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Speaker 3: little bit thin. How do you evaluate that unit for

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Speaker 3: tash Lupoy and Matt Polige and everybody else coaching that defense.

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Speaker 4: As long as the guys who missed the spring with

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Speaker 4: injuries come back healthy, Like the again, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like the offensive line, like they'll have a decent floor there.

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Speaker 4: Like Brandon Dorless had a really nice season for them

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Speaker 4: last year. Obviously he's not quite like the edge guy

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Speaker 4: that Caveon Thibodeau is, but I think that he could

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Speaker 4: probably turn in like a second team or a first

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Speaker 4: team Pack twelve type of season. Sam Taimani, the transfer

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Speaker 4: from from Washington, like he he I don't know like

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Speaker 4: how big of a top end impact he's going to make,

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Speaker 4: But like again, it's it's it's just more dependable depth

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Speaker 4: there right key on where Hudson, you know, just another

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01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: kind of depth player there. But then also like we've

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Speaker 4: had this kid, his name's Jackson Powers Johnson. He's a

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Speaker 4: he's a red shirt freshman and he's played offensive line

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: and defensive line, I think just about every other day.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's going to make a ton

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Speaker 4: of impact quite yet this year, but he's a guy

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Speaker 4: that I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like every Spring is like one.

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Speaker 4: Guy that the coaching staff decides that they're just really

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Speaker 4: going to get behind and and prop up and so

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Speaker 4: wherever he ends up, like, I think he'll end up

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: being a pretty decent player. But yeah, this this isn't

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Speaker 4: an Organ defensive line that has just like major, major,

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Speaker 4: major impact players other than Dorilys right.

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Speaker 3: Now, fair enough, And when you look overall at how

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Speaker 3: the coaches seem to feel about the rosters, seem to

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Speaker 3: feel about the squad, seem to feel about the ceiling,

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: do you sense confidence? Do you sense pump the brakes?

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Speaker 3: Do you sense we could have something special?

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Speaker 2: If A, B and C.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think their minds are?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a compo. You probably see there. The

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: thing that.

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Speaker 4: You know, Christaball Leaves and a bunch of Organ fans

1358
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 4: are kind of going through that. We just got left

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: at the altar again. We're getting deserted. But you know,

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Speaker 4: Christabaul did spend four years building up this roster to

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Speaker 4: a point where yeah, they lost some guys not from

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Speaker 4: the class that they had committed for twenty twenty two,

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01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: but they had some transfers go out. But this is

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Speaker 4: still one of the more on paper talented rosters that

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Speaker 4: Organs had probably ever. And so I think the combination

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Speaker 4: of you know, you have a coaching staff that's coming

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: in and they can recognize that, and then they're adding

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 4: in their own pieces. And I do think that so

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01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 4: much of this spring is just getting a decent feel

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: for how those guys look altogether. But boy, they've already

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Speaker 4: brought in two new guys for twenty twenty two with

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 4: Connorley and Kyler Casper. I mean Casper reclassified for this year.

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 4: I don't know how much of an impact he's going

1374
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 4: to be able to make because I'm actually pretty impressed

1375
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 4: with Receivers as they are right now. But yeah, like

1376
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 4: they are, I don't think they're building this thing while

1377
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 4: looking five years down the road like I think they're looking,

1378
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, if things go well this year, potential and

1379
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: if not, shoot for next year. Like you don't bring

1380
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 4: bo Nicks in in this situation if you don't believe

1381
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 4: in at least you know some point of your roster

1382
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 4: can have success.

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 3: There part question, and it's my last one. And this

1384
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 3: is maybe the most difficult or maybe the easiest. You

1385
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: are in your based in Portland, you make your way

1386
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: down to Eugene and back all the time. You named

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 3: your substack, your subscription site after the interstate.

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: Right there.

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 3: If you are selling people on a meal in Portland,

1390
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: selling people on a meal between Portland Eugene, because you

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: happen to be hungry or thirsty or both, and you're

1392
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: in Eugene and you find yourself with a spare hour

1393
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: twelve for lunch or dinner whatever breakfast, give me the

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01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: official I five Corridor Tyson Alger menu selection.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So in Portland, we're going to go to this

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 4: place is called Matt's Barbecue Tacos. There's a food truck

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: on Mississippi. It's Matt's Barbecue. It's been Portland's best barbecue

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01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 4: for probably going on five years. About two years ago

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: they branched out and made a breakfast tacos place. So

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 4: it's just basically like brisket and eggs. Like I mean,

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01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 4: I don't probably I probably don't need to talk anymore.

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: People understand.

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: Driving down to Eugene, that that's you know, they they

1404
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: did throw it in and out in Salem and the

1405
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 4: for like the Kaiser exit, but oftentimes the the car

1406
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 4: lineup is going through the overpass to that. So there's

1407
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 4: like there used to be a Starbucks right there that

1408
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 4: was like way too busy, and now there's no line

1409
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: at Starbucks. So I mean, just for practical purposes, I

1410
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 4: need my caffeine, I need I need my my bagel.

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01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 4: We're gonna go Starbucks there. And then when we get

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: down to Eugene, there's this little place called Taco War

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01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 4: and it's just actually, I guess I've gone two tacos here.

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01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 2: That's okay, this is your answer.

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the I five Corridor, its food distinctions here,

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01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: but uh yeah, Taco War is just basically when when

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 4: Andrew Greife and I were working together, that was what

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01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 4: we would call the Eugene or the Oregonians South Bureau.

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: So we would we would do our interviews and then

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01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: go get tacos and transcribe.

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Speaker 3: Our what's the order, what's the specialty? You said, brisket

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01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: and egg at the taco truck and Portland and Matt's

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: what's the war you said.

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01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, tacovar.

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: They do a it's like a carne asana, but it's

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 4: got like some mandarin orange in there. Yes, it's it's

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 4: kind of out of I mean, I wouldn't try to

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01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't try to attempt it on my own, but

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 4: they stick the landing all right?

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: Well, Tyson Alger, I dash five corridor. Do check it

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Speaker 3: out if you're an Oregon fan or Oregon curious. I

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: don't know if that's a weird phrase. Oregon curious if

1433
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 3: you're Notre Dame curious, but not note if you're Mississippi

1434
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: State curious. But really, do check it out. There's a

1435
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: podcast there. He has terrific guests and it is worth

1436
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: your time if you are an Oregon dork like myself.

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: Once again, I dash hyphen the number five corridor dot com.

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: Did I get all of that right?

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01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: Dude?

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01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: You nailed it, yes, Tyson, thank you very much for

1441
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 3: your time.

1442
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tyson, ay things a lot of guys all right, Dan,

1443
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 2: there you go, Tyson Alger from the fact card or

1444
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: sharing some of his organ wisdom with us.

1445
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh it's great. It's I'm sure it's a fascinating

1446
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: time when you cover a team with a new coaching staff,

1447
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: new coach, big prolific change. Like if you're a USC

1448
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: person and you are at twenty four to seven, I'm

1449
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 3: sure subscribers are through the roof, right. It's people love,

1450
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: the hope, the excitement, the energy that comes with a

1451
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 3: new coaching higher and I think people that cover organ

1452
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: and organ fans in general feel the same way. All right,

1453
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: So here is the deal. Look, we covered a lot

1454
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: of ground here. There is much more ground left cover. Yes,

1455
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: if we wanted to cover all of it, it'd be

1456
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 3: a two hour show. We want to try and break

1457
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 3: this up into more digestible chunks.

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01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: It is still late April, after all. Let's ease our

1459
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: way back into this like we're going into a warm

1460
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: bath band. So Part two of our Spring snapshots, Yeah,

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: will be coming your way on Thursday, has jets tie.

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Speaker 2: How about that? It's a real jacuz Yeah. Big. Thanks

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 2: to Tyson, Big, thanks to everybody out there for hanging

1464
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 2: with us as we talked through all things in focused,

1465
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: out of focus. We're got a little muddy. That's your

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: cue for the sound. Thank you, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to keep playing, but continue fun show.

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Speaker 2: Dan. Good to have you back. I'm excited you have

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Speaker 2: you Have you been to Portland? By the way, I

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: was there for uh ten hours once, I like, I

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Speaker 2: flew in Okay for ten hours, took a meeting, and

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Speaker 2: then flew back across the country.

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Speaker 3: There is so much I want to eat in Portland.

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: I haven't been in a decade plus and I need

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01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 3: to get back. I've heard so many good things about

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01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: the food in Portland, and I've got a lot of

1477
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: buddies still in Portland that I went to college with

1478
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:56,480
Speaker 3: and such, so dying to get back. Everybody says incredible

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01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: pizza town. So yeah, obviously I need to do it.

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Speaker 3: Haven't been to you, Gene. I've been to Portland. Haven't

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: made the drive, which you'd think, Oh, Eugene, lush and

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01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 3: green and hilly Portland, cool weird city. That drive is

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: probably super fun. Nope, drive is terrible. Drive is truly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's like there's a place called the Enchanted

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Speaker 3: Wonderland or something enchanted forest. It sounds like a strip club,

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 3: not a strip club. It is something could be amusement park.

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: Maybe I think it's the Enchanted Forest. But it is

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: not a great drive. There's like a speed trap every

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: thirty mile it's just not fun.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Hate speed traps. All right. Well, look, wherever this show

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Speaker 2: finds you, thank you so much for being patient with us.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate our guest of honor. Please do go on

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Speaker 2: out and check out his fine work at the I

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Speaker 2: five Corridor. Don't forget to subscribe to the show if

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Speaker 2: If you really want to help us out, you can.

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Speaker 2: That's where we do some of the bonus stuff. You

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Speaker 2: that we do in a given week, called the bruant A.

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Speaker 2: I did it last week with Mama h in your absence. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I hauled all of my gear, not all of my gear,

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Speaker 2: but a chunk of my gear up to her house.

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Speaker 2: We set it up in the living room. Surprisingly, her

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Speaker 2: landline did not ring throughout our recording, which was kind

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Speaker 2: of an act of God unto itself. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 2: talked through a bunch of questions that people had sent in.

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Speaker 2: So if you're a fan of the show and want

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Speaker 2: super fan. As I know, there are many people out

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Speaker 2: you can access that, and last but not least, follow

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Speaker 2: on social media. Don't forget to check out solid Giveaway

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Speaker 2: dot Com here. Shortly, I'm in the process of spinning

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Speaker 2: up a new contest that you're going to want to

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Speaker 2: check out. So I got to love it. That's all

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Speaker 2: I have. All right, For that guy over there, my

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Speaker 2: good friend Dan Rubinstein now back in Chicago. For myself,

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Speaker 2: Tie hilden Brandt, I'm still hearing ster Pa. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you all on Thursday, Part two Spring Snapshots. Stay solid, peace,

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Speaker 2: m HM.