Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast would be a good bit
Speaker 1: for Chip Kelly's office. Welcome back to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis
Speaker 1: and I'm joined, but I room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys? Hey Dan,
Speaker 1: Happy Sunday to you. What a Sunday, Great day in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Not just for me, because some things broke
Speaker 1: the old Zeuser's way, which is always you know, it's
Speaker 1: nice when that happens. When the third person comes out
Speaker 1: within thirty seconds of the show. Absolutely that's a sign
Speaker 1: right there. But also there are a lot of great
Speaker 1: games today, a lot of action, a lot of big plays,
Speaker 1: a lot of missed extra points, which I believe the
Speaker 1: league believes that makes a more exciting league. Uh and
Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps it does, west I think so. But a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of show out there to get to.
Speaker 1: And this is our big Sunday recap show where we
Speaker 1: go over every game. I like I've said before, I
Speaker 1: like to look it at it like you know inside
Speaker 1: the NFL used to do with Len Dawson, Nick Bonacantie.
Speaker 1: We give every game the respect it deserves, and we
Speaker 1: go through each game, we break it down, because that's
Speaker 1: how why you give me that look, Greg. Well, well,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of games will we'll respect a little less,
Speaker 1: but there will be ravens. Let's not give it too
Speaker 1: much respect, right. It's it's been such a good I mean,
Speaker 1: you know last week, I think it was last Sunday's show,
Speaker 1: I was running by a slogan that I was going
Speaker 1: to pitch to the higher ups. Remember it was NFL
Speaker 1: never been better, right that? I got two new ones.
Speaker 1: You guys, let me know what you think. Uh, the
Speaker 1: NFL get a load of this action not solid alright, alright,
Speaker 1: there's this one too, NFL um. I think I'm a
Speaker 1: fan for life like that. I like it. That just
Speaker 1: rolls right off the tongue. You can fit that easily
Speaker 1: on bumper stickers. You know. It sells it is that
Speaker 1: Dan loves it, and that shows that shows the listener
Speaker 1: and in the NFL fans out there. If you love it,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna love it. I like that. I like that
Speaker 1: outlook on things, Greg. Today's show coming up, we have
Speaker 1: the showdown between the Saints and Panthers, which became a
Speaker 1: shootout down on the Superdome, the Saint showing a pulse,
Speaker 1: the Patriots the throne of ease. We have some trouble
Speaker 1: Greg on the throne of ease, and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Also Sunday Night football, the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on Matt
Speaker 1: Hasselbeck and the Colts. Hasselbeck looking to move to five
Speaker 1: and oh, so we'll talk about whether that happened the NFL. UM.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a fan for life, That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: This is before the show. You know, Dan was giggling
Speaker 1: to himself for four or five minutes, and now we
Speaker 1: know what that one got me. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think it just works pay off for the three
Speaker 1: of us. So as well as just wait till, wait
Speaker 1: till the feedback online, people are gonna be connecting with us.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling. Um, all right, let's get right
Speaker 1: to the games, because there's a lot of football. There
Speaker 1: are no buys uh to speak up, So let's go.
Speaker 1: And let's start with those Carolina Panthers who entered UH
Speaker 1: this week undefeated as we all know, UH, and they
Speaker 1: remained that way. Cam Newton through for five touchdowns for
Speaker 1: the second time in three weeks and the Panthers fought
Speaker 1: off a pesky and potent Saints offense and a forty
Speaker 1: one thirty eight win at the Superdome. Chris Westling the
Speaker 1: mail Man, the Panthers are twelve and oh and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton might be the new favorite for league m v
Speaker 1: P AM I crazy. I don't think that's crazy. Greg
Speaker 1: likes to say that nobody's hotter than Russell Wilson right now,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's got to be close. In week ten, he
Speaker 1: started a game eleven for eleven for the first time
Speaker 1: in his career. In Week eleven, he through five touchdowns
Speaker 1: for the first time in his career. And week thirteen,
Speaker 1: he throws five touchdowns again and completed fifteen consecutive passes
Speaker 1: at one point. Excellent game by Cam Newton. Tag again
Speaker 1: dropped a pair of would be touching long touchdown. Gotta
Speaker 1: watch the tape to believe that he catches like one
Speaker 1: out of three wide open touchdowns, right, that's like the average.
Speaker 1: It's good if you're a short stopping you're up to bat,
Speaker 1: but it's not good as a wide receiver. But this
Speaker 1: is a game where the Panthers. Every team, even sixteen
Speaker 1: and oh teams have sloppy games. They had three first
Speaker 1: half turnovers. The defense, which had been really stingy, allowed
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and then again two drops. They actually have
Speaker 1: about five or six drops on the game. So to
Speaker 1: pull out a win, it speaks to how well cam
Speaker 1: Newton's playing and really the whole team, the whole undefeated
Speaker 1: season came down to a fourth down. This fourth quarter
Speaker 1: had so many back and forth How about this West
Speaker 1: you watched the closest of any of it. Is this
Speaker 1: one of the games of the year in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now? I mean, so much went on in this
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It was a good game. I think right
Speaker 1: now we've got like fourteen games of the year. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there were four or five lead changes and you
Speaker 1: had a shootout, So that always qualifies for a game
Speaker 1: of the year. How does Carolina give up this many
Speaker 1: points with what we've seen do on defense in general,
Speaker 1: I would just attribute to pure sloppiness. I mean they
Speaker 1: were on the road. You're gonna have a couple the
Speaker 1: games like this a year, and you know the Saints
Speaker 1: have a pretty loaded offense. Coverage breakdowns to Kurt Coleman,
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year candidate, false, I would say
Speaker 1: provo candidate, though I mean behind only Reggie Nelson with
Speaker 1: six interceptions, and really a credit to Dave Gettleman who
Speaker 1: finds these under the radar free agents every year, and
Speaker 1: they're coaching staff, Sean McDermott, the defensive coordinator, Ron Rivera.
Speaker 1: They turn all these guys into good players. Reminds me
Speaker 1: of what Arizona does and what the Patriots do, which
Speaker 1: is groom your own players, but also find players that
Speaker 1: don't work in other systems and make them work in
Speaker 1: your own playing for Sean McDermott and Philadelphia. So that
Speaker 1: was a good thing, right, I'm I'm kind of kiddy
Speaker 1: about that. Although Josh Norman, who you mentioned, is definitely
Speaker 1: a candidate. He's the one in coverage on Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: on the decisive play in the game where the Saints
Speaker 1: that they don't even care try to set up a
Speaker 1: field goal. Instead they just go for it a bomb
Speaker 1: down the field to Brandon Cooks. Norman was in good position,
Speaker 1: although Cook's kind of turned the wrong way. Didn't seem
Speaker 1: like they were on the same page. What do we
Speaker 1: um looking at for the rest of the season right now?
Speaker 1: Is this going to happen? Well? They've got at Atlanta
Speaker 1: or where they have home to Atlanta, at the New
Speaker 1: York Giants, then at Atlanta, then Tampa Bay. So I
Speaker 1: think the Falcons have lost five straight games, why not
Speaker 1: the reeling The Giants look like to me, they've got
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, O'Dell Beckham and nothing else. And then the
Speaker 1: Bucks are a wild card. But that's four games. You
Speaker 1: would have to think the Panthers will be heavy favor
Speaker 1: And then after the game, after a game where Saints
Speaker 1: probably one of the best games of the year and
Speaker 1: yet you lose at home, Sean Payton immediately starts talking
Speaker 1: about the ref mark. Yeah, he went crazy afterwards. I mean,
Speaker 1: according to the Beat writers, one of them said, I've
Speaker 1: never seen him so livid, and he was specifically upset
Speaker 1: about a pair of in his in his estimation of
Speaker 1: incidents where twelve men were on the field for the
Speaker 1: Panthers twice not called. He basically said, listen around the
Speaker 1: country on Friday nights, they refs catch that high school ball. Dan,
Speaker 1: Come on, I used to cover high school ball and
Speaker 1: the refs aren't very good because they're high school referees.
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. John Payton also asked about Brandon Browner.
Speaker 1: You know, in Dennis Allen, the new coordinator, yelling at
Speaker 1: each other on the sideline, Browner got right in his face,
Speaker 1: and Payton just reacts with a very dismissive I'll go
Speaker 1: blog about it. It's like it's like the fiftieth sideline
Speaker 1: argument this year that Sean Payton says, Oh, it's not
Speaker 1: a big deal, don't look away, don't don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Brandon Browner has been the worst cornerback in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year. Three more penalties today, gave up two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: There was a three p three play sequence where he
Speaker 1: got burned by Ted Ginn who dropped the ball. Devin
Speaker 1: Funches dropped the ball with him in coverage, and then
Speaker 1: Corey Brown burned him and he Cam Newton over threw
Speaker 1: Corey Brown. But three straight plays Brandon Browner. The craziest
Speaker 1: thing too, about that is that everyone knows that Rob
Speaker 1: Ryan is struggled as a defensive court and now he's
Speaker 1: you know, down to Tijuana getting drunk, enjoying himself some
Speaker 1: Santa Monica just the other day. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: was on the way to Tijuana. There you go, But
Speaker 1: how bad do the Saints have to be. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: Brown Brandon Brown is the worst cornerback in the league.
Speaker 1: That he still has a job after all these weeks,
Speaker 1: it tells you a lot about what's going on there.
Speaker 1: He has twenty penalties, which is the most in the
Speaker 1: league by a lot. Delvin bro their other cornerback, has
Speaker 1: eleven penalties, which is the second most. Tom brou Well
Speaker 1: done five touchdowns away from breaking the record for passing
Speaker 1: touchdowns allowed. Right, yes, disaster. So the Saints are bad.
Speaker 1: The Panthers are very very good. Twelve and oh and
Speaker 1: flirting with immortality. Oh, Mercury Morris, what are you gonna do? Enough?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Moving on the new New England Patriots where tenant?
Speaker 1: Oh about I don't know one week ago? Right now? Now?
Speaker 1: Things get a little dicey here, legitimate trouble on the
Speaker 1: throne of ease perhaps. The Philadelphia Eagles collected a punt
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown, a punt block for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and a ninety nine yard pick six by Malcolm Jenkins
Speaker 1: to build a huge lead over the Patriots. They held
Speaker 1: on win in Foxborough. The Pats had a nice comeback,
Speaker 1: but it fell short. Greg the Patriots shield of invincibility
Speaker 1: has and compromised. Yes or no? No, Well they never
Speaker 1: were invincible. Who says they were invincible? That's you putting
Speaker 1: it on him, you know, storm clouds. Oh no, that's
Speaker 1: not good. The charbs, they don't. They're like gremlins. They
Speaker 1: can't get well, you gotta get inside, you can't get
Speaker 1: rained on. This is a painful game to watch as
Speaker 1: a fan, but it was also just one of those games.
Speaker 1: I mean that this is only the third time in
Speaker 1: NFL history that those returns that you're talking about have
Speaker 1: ever happened in the same games. I mean, their special
Speaker 1: teams got absolutely destroyed. Tom Brady throws a pick six
Speaker 1: on the goal line where he gets pressured a play
Speaker 1: after James White comes about a yard short of the
Speaker 1: end zone, and he really should have scored on it
Speaker 1: on a long pass, a screen pass to him. Everything
Speaker 1: that could have gone wrong went wrong for them in
Speaker 1: this game. That doesn't take away from the fact that
Speaker 1: there are legitimate concerns. Tom Brady got hurt hit thirteen times.
Speaker 1: It's obvious their offense isn't nearly the same without Gronk
Speaker 1: and Edelman on a field, So those are problems, but
Speaker 1: there was also a very strange game. The Eagles had
Speaker 1: more return yards than yards midway through the fourth quarter. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: what the kind of game is that it was thirty five,
Speaker 1: it was fourteen nothing. And then because we don't get
Speaker 1: to see it too often, but the Eagles trying to
Speaker 1: run out the clock is one of the funniest things
Speaker 1: to watch ever. There in shotgun. They don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. It's like Stan Bradford rolling out and then
Speaker 1: sliding down the line of scrimmage. But also they got
Speaker 1: the job done because this game, this game almost got away.
Speaker 1: You had the fourteen midway through the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 1: get the Patriots get the touchdown, the onside kick, another touchdown,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, here we go. And then they
Speaker 1: got the they gotta stop after a miss attempt at
Speaker 1: an onside kick for a second time. And then Tommy
Speaker 1: Boy couldn't get down the field be traded by his
Speaker 1: own receivers. Brandon LaFell with a drop, Scott Chandler's had
Speaker 1: drops all the time. Keyshan Martin is playing significant important
Speaker 1: snaps for them as an outside receiver. I mean, the
Speaker 1: worst playing football right now is throwing it deep the
Speaker 1: Brandon LaFell. It's a disaster and it cost Brady an
Speaker 1: interception on one play where he thought LaFell was gonna
Speaker 1: go one way, he went the other. He threw an interception.
Speaker 1: LaFell jogged on another one where he let up and
Speaker 1: it looked like that could have been a big play.
Speaker 1: It's just been a big problem. You know, when it's
Speaker 1: bad news, guys for the Patriots is when Greg who
Speaker 1: keeps it together on Twitter you very rarely, let's just
Speaker 1: frustration get the best of him when he's tweeting out,
Speaker 1: like snarky comments about Brandon LaFell. Deep routes was the
Speaker 1: tweet that's something they were over forty seven throwing to
Speaker 1: Brandon LaFell, the Lasca. That's real fans stuff. I actually
Speaker 1: like to see it, Greg, like creeping out of Greg
Speaker 1: onto his social media love it well, there was. It
Speaker 1: was interesting to be in our newsroom, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: nineteen out of twenties Sundays, the Patriots win and it's
Speaker 1: not the big news. But everyone was focused on this
Speaker 1: game and these wacky plays, and I felt, Greg, you
Speaker 1: were kind of in the middle of a fish bowl
Speaker 1: with everyone. Well, people love it. I mean, the biggest
Speaker 1: reaction in the entire news room all year is when
Speaker 1: the Giants it looked like they intercepted the Patriots to
Speaker 1: win the game, and then it turned out that place
Speaker 1: exploded like it was the Super Bowl and in MetLife
Speaker 1: Stadium or something. At the time, people love killing on
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but you know that's it comes with the territory.
Speaker 1: It's all right. So we last week this time we said, oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry about the Patriots. They'll be fine. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get healthy. They're gonna end up with a buy most likely,
Speaker 1: um are a little more nerves west. Now I'll ask
Speaker 1: you this now, two straight losses, obviously the offense is
Speaker 1: not the same with all these missing pieces, that they
Speaker 1: might fall all the way out and have a three seed.
Speaker 1: Here they have a three seed right now. If the
Speaker 1: season ended today and you lose to the Eagles, that
Speaker 1: begs the question, are you good enough to win at
Speaker 1: Houston in week fourteen? Are you good enough to win
Speaker 1: at the Jets in week sixteen or at Miami in
Speaker 1: week seventeen? It will help once you get Gronk back
Speaker 1: to me. I believe they've been outscored by twenty or
Speaker 1: thirty points. Since Gronk went down with the knee injury.
Speaker 1: He's the most valuable non quarterback in the league, I believe,
Speaker 1: So maybe you get him back and things turn around.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure they're a much better team and
Speaker 1: been the text fing. I mean, the season takes on
Speaker 1: a completely different complexion after the way it started. It's
Speaker 1: suddenly you aren't one of those buy teams, right because
Speaker 1: they haven't looked the same. And I assume that the
Speaker 1: offense will get back and clicking once these guys get healthy.
Speaker 1: It's like a weird game for them to lose today.
Speaker 1: But but there are a lot of bad things about
Speaker 1: the game. Even if you took away all those big plays.
Speaker 1: These two teams are playing each other fairly, even midway
Speaker 1: through the third I mean, Tom Brady was the second
Speaker 1: leading receiver on the Patriots until they went on that
Speaker 1: touchdown drive to start coming back in this game because
Speaker 1: Tom Brady caught a thirty six yard trick play which
Speaker 1: they pulled out when they absolutely needed it, and it
Speaker 1: worked great. But there are legitimate problems. The Broncos and
Speaker 1: Bengals play each other, you know, coming up, so they
Speaker 1: know that one of those teams is going to lose,
Speaker 1: so to get a buy if they can somehow win out.
Speaker 1: But you're right at Houston at the Jets are a
Speaker 1: very difficult game. You would think the winner of the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Denver game, will they have the number one seed
Speaker 1: in the seat at this point at this point, yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's some they both have some tough games too. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Denver Broncos, who went to San
Speaker 1: Diego on Sunday and just took care of business. Danny
Speaker 1: Trevathan had a pick six of a Philip Rivers pass
Speaker 1: and brock Osweiler uh moved to three and oh as
Speaker 1: a starter. The Broncos ease passed the Chargers a seventeen
Speaker 1: to three win in uh what might be the penultimate
Speaker 1: game at Qualcom Stadium. Again, that stadium filled with opposed
Speaker 1: fans from the opposing team. Just a depressing site. And
Speaker 1: as far as the Broncos go here, listen, uh they did.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what they need to do this season,
Speaker 1: at least in this early going. If this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a brock Osweiler team, he's gonna be up and down.
Speaker 1: He's in his first year of starter. When their defense
Speaker 1: is playing at the top of its potential, which it
Speaker 1: did today. That they're taking a lot off the play
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. You don't he doesn't have to make
Speaker 1: a ton of big plays, and that's enough when you
Speaker 1: play a team like the San Diego Chargers, that's all
Speaker 1: you gotta do. I mean, the Philip Rivers had four
Speaker 1: completions to wide receivers the entire game. UH. Granted, this
Speaker 1: is the same Chargers team that gave up three points
Speaker 1: two weeks ago to UH Chiefs. I believe so this
Speaker 1: offense is not right. But the Broncos basically just outclassed
Speaker 1: the Chargers, took care business. And yes, now they are
Speaker 1: tied with the Patriots in terms of one loss and
Speaker 1: have that head to head tiebreaker, So the Broncos are
Speaker 1: in great position. Is there any reason that you try
Speaker 1: to bring Peyton Manning back into the mix. Of this point,
Speaker 1: the formula is finally working for Gary Kubia. I don't
Speaker 1: see any reason he would have to Oswalder would have
Speaker 1: to really struggle and they have to go into a
Speaker 1: funk where they I feel like they would feel like
Speaker 1: we need to do something because the season is flipping away,
Speaker 1: slipping away with a kid that's not ready. Well there's
Speaker 1: there's some warning science here. C J. Anderson left the
Speaker 1: game with an injury. Vernon Davis left the game with
Speaker 1: an injury. Brock Oswalder had a pretty poor game. I
Speaker 1: haven't watched it, but I don't care. What happened. Ten
Speaker 1: points against the worst defense, and well, they took the
Speaker 1: air out of the ball in the second half. It
Speaker 1: is then they didn't move the ball. I thought him
Speaker 1: through a very costly bad interception when they were gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, go in first point. So it wasn't I'm
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't Oswalder's best game. That's gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: when you have a great defen it's like that, it's
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. Yes, so the defense is
Speaker 1: going to carry the day. It is good to see
Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas who had one catch on thirteen targets. I
Speaker 1: still can't believe that last week he had six catches
Speaker 1: on six targets in this game for sixty one yards
Speaker 1: in the lone offensive touchdown. So the Broncos take care
Speaker 1: of business and uh they are currently in position for buy.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that came out of that
Speaker 1: Patrick Patriots game was their running game. Just how if
Speaker 1: they can be a dominant running team, we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: this wasn't that type of performance, but they can be
Speaker 1: that type of team. Why not er in the Super Bow? Wow?
Speaker 1: That would be wild. Let's move on the Battle of Ohio.
Speaker 1: That feels strong. The Cincinnati Bengals are a much better
Speaker 1: team than the Cleveland Browns, and they showed it a
Speaker 1: thirty seven to three win in Cleveland. Andy Dalton threw
Speaker 1: two touchdowns ran for another. And the Browns are getting
Speaker 1: more depressing by the week, aren't they? Mark Well, they are,
Speaker 1: And because I think what it is. You look at
Speaker 1: the two teams in Ohio, and it's a case studying
Speaker 1: team building. One blows up the machine every two seasons
Speaker 1: and then is forced to hire the last of eleven
Speaker 1: available coaches, and the other has kept the same coach
Speaker 1: through thicker thin, like him or not. And the talent
Speaker 1: gap on Sunday between these two teams on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball, on special teams and in the coaching
Speaker 1: circle was unbelievable to watch. It couldn't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: cannot think of a time that these two teams were
Speaker 1: farther apart in their destinies and where they're heading. And
Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan, incredibly depressing. And if you're
Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, I really look at a team that
Speaker 1: I do not think has completely peaked at this point.
Speaker 1: Their offense is running on all cylinders and their defense
Speaker 1: is playing as good as it has all season. Geno
Speaker 1: Atkins did not show up in the box score in
Speaker 1: the first half, but he absolutely dominated Cleveland's interior line.
Speaker 1: He changed the complexion of this game, and he ended
Speaker 1: this thing along with the rest of this team. Before
Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter. The game was absolutely
Speaker 1: over ten minutes in. Well, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: love you, Mark, but I'm almost happy it's the Browns.
Speaker 1: Get it stuck to him. They're building because this this
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel soap opera which they have now played a part.
Speaker 1: And it's not all Manzel, who hasn't been on his
Speaker 1: best behavior. But you know, what do you what do
Speaker 1: you expect? You're playing one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL and you're sending out a guy that barely
Speaker 1: should be in the league. This is what's going to happen. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I mean, at this point, it sounds
Speaker 1: like you know some of the beat right. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Mike Petton out of the gate,
Speaker 1: sitting him for a week, and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to change who this team is. Manziel would have
Speaker 1: gotten killed today. It has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: what's around the quarterback baby, But again it's all speculative.
Speaker 1: It's like he probably would have gotten killed, but he's
Speaker 1: not playing. So it's like here we are, We're heading
Speaker 1: towards the middle of December, and the Browns still don't
Speaker 1: know if they can play. They know he's a knucklehead
Speaker 1: at this stage of his life, but they still don't
Speaker 1: know if he can play. You tweeted out, there's no
Speaker 1: excuse for this Brown's performance, none, Like you're talking about
Speaker 1: the whole team, though you're not talking quarterback has been
Speaker 1: the least of Cleveland's problems this season in general. We
Speaker 1: talked about that last sit. This is on the defense,
Speaker 1: number one. Both lines are not what they promised to
Speaker 1: be coming into the season. They talked about themselves in
Speaker 1: the off season as a as a top five secondary,
Speaker 1: and the Bengals came in with all those things. They
Speaker 1: aren't even playing their first round aligneman from this offseason. Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they're finessing them in on a slow way. They've got
Speaker 1: better players and veterans to teach the way to go,
Speaker 1: and it was it was a show in complete dominance.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the relevant team in this game. Um,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Bengals are peaking. Jeremy Hill. I thought
Speaker 1: last week had his best game of the season this year.
Speaker 1: He had a season high. I believe in rushing yards
Speaker 1: they're getting better. And next two weeks it looks like
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Steelers, and the Broncos all play each
Speaker 1: other or they play each other throughout the season. So
Speaker 1: the Steelers and in Broncos will be two tough games
Speaker 1: for them. But like you said, if they're peaking, now
Speaker 1: that's good news. I mean, I don't see I don't
Speaker 1: look at those teams. Is there's a clear advantage over Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I think it's Cincinnati is in the groove. They can
Speaker 1: play with anyone. They could beat the Patriots, they could
Speaker 1: eat anyone in the a f C. And they haven't
Speaker 1: had those four or five bad Sundays this season. That's
Speaker 1: just that's a scary thought. If Jeremy Hill could become
Speaker 1: what Jeremy Hill was in the back end of last season,
Speaker 1: and then you add him to Andy Dalton having a
Speaker 1: career season. Bernard does his thing. A J. Green has
Speaker 1: been better and better than the last couple of weeks
Speaker 1: after being a little, uh, you know, down in terms
Speaker 1: of production. I mean, this team is it's the best
Speaker 1: Bengals team since they've made the Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. And they're better on defense.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say they're probably better than the second
Speaker 1: one that was in the Super bo I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember those teams. What about the Carson Palmer a c
Speaker 1: L season that was pretty they were they were a
Speaker 1: good team, but they were not similar similar on offense.
Speaker 1: There were loaded that year on offense with Chris Henry
Speaker 1: and Chris Johnson and t. J. Husman's auto, but that
Speaker 1: team had a shot in a down year. But this
Speaker 1: is a legit dominating team and people don't want to
Speaker 1: discount wins like this or the one they had the instagrams,
Speaker 1: but that is the best sign. That is the best
Speaker 1: way you can tell who's the Super Bowl team and
Speaker 1: who's the dominant who stomps the bad teams. That's the
Speaker 1: thing year after year that you can tell, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: one of the best three or four teams, right and
Speaker 1: coming off a back losses, is it going to be
Speaker 1: the confidence and everything creeps in? Not at all. They
Speaker 1: came out and it's their two best showings of the
Speaker 1: year total. Hammer drops and Mark, I believe you had
Speaker 1: some type of imagery you wanted to share for those
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube for what's going on in Cleveland right now?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's take it to the behind the glass?
Speaker 1: Can you play our image sound effect? Really? Does it mean?
Speaker 1: That's yeah? The sound effect is really saves it. I
Speaker 1: feel for the whole city because you're watching your other
Speaker 1: rival get better and better and grow and it's your
Speaker 1: there is nothing to cling onto that you go into
Speaker 1: the off season and say this is where the hope lies. Lebron,
Speaker 1: that's what you can clean up. Well, that's not the
Speaker 1: same sport, Greg, So something, it's something, I tell you what.
Speaker 1: Mark was pretty fired up today in the newsroom. Uh,
Speaker 1: very angry. I think it was a combination your your
Speaker 1: intensity is well known, but when you take the spiriting
Speaker 1: Brown's performance and then all the excitement of the day
Speaker 1: otherwise in the league, including with my Jets are about
Speaker 1: to get to and all these other teams you know,
Speaker 1: a high big plays it all. It's just extra depressing.
Speaker 1: I suppose at one point you told me you needed
Speaker 1: a ten minute break from football well, because you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I love football, I love covering it. It's a privilege
Speaker 1: to have their ocuous Frank Gorka well because no, it's
Speaker 1: I think you say you needed a tend to break
Speaker 1: from you know it was not great and talked to
Speaker 1: them all day. It's everything because you have to think
Speaker 1: about the contrast when you and Dan went through this
Speaker 1: with the Jets a few years ago, when your team
Speaker 1: is not just bad and under the radar bad that
Speaker 1: you're a laughing stock and you you're getting hit with
Speaker 1: tweets all day long from carrying listeners, but they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: how's Mark doing? Like you know what, I feel nothing
Speaker 1: at this point is how I feel. The quiet storm
Speaker 1: was in full effected. I believe at one time you
Speaker 1: said something to the effect of every other team in
Speaker 1: the league can go to hell. I'm tired of I'm
Speaker 1: tired of it. It It was the most lopsided sided law
Speaker 1: since two thousand five, and that's saying something, and it
Speaker 1: looked that way. I'm gonna put you on the on
Speaker 1: the spot, Mark, I set it downstairs. I would love
Speaker 1: for you to give us some type of maybe on
Speaker 1: Tuesday show an open letter, maybe speak to the Browns,
Speaker 1: may the fans, to the team itself, get it all
Speaker 1: off your chest. Can at least consider it. I'll consider it.
Speaker 1: But here's why I don't think it means anything, because
Speaker 1: whatever patchwork change they make or whoever they replace, it
Speaker 1: needs a complete and utter gutting. It seems like you
Speaker 1: can't have more disenfranchised people arguing behind the scenes in
Speaker 1: a bunch of But now you're arguing for the thing
Speaker 1: that you said the Bengals. You know that they need
Speaker 1: to do that the Bengals didn't do, which is I'm
Speaker 1: not arguing for it. I'm just saying I don't know
Speaker 1: what to argue for. At this point. You go figure
Speaker 1: it out. They're getting paid four hundred times more than
Speaker 1: I am. It's not my job to figure Also, Mark
Speaker 1: Greg's teams on a two game losing strength fort that is,
Speaker 1: he understands like where you're coming from, a shared prospective.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Yes, the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I said, the New York Jets run
Speaker 1: the metal lands. Let's keep it running. Um, The New
Speaker 1: York Jets run the meadow lands like that's a place
Speaker 1: that people are are even who was running. They show
Speaker 1: up ten times a year us very bodies like a
Speaker 1: swampy mall. Uh. It is the home of the four
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion Giants the one time Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champion Jets. They weren't playing there when it happened. And yes,
Speaker 1: there are many dead bodies in the marshes of Jersey.
Speaker 1: But the point being is that the Jets played the
Speaker 1: Giants today and they won. By God, they won. Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick three for three, ninety yards and two scores a
Speaker 1: great game. But this really, to me, this story was
Speaker 1: less about the Jets and more about the Giants, who
Speaker 1: are five and seven, right, which doesn't eliminate you from
Speaker 1: the NFC East, which says a lot, but the first
Speaker 1: placed by the end of the week, right, it's sorr.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys could be one game out of
Speaker 1: first if they win on on Monday night. But but
Speaker 1: just more of the idea of the Giants should be
Speaker 1: I'm not even exaggerating, like nine in three of this season.
Speaker 1: If they could just close out games like a normal team,
Speaker 1: Yet they've they've lost I believe it's four and maybe
Speaker 1: even five games that they had a lead in the
Speaker 1: final minute of the game, final two minutes record with
Speaker 1: fourth three. That is outrageous failure in obviously the crucial
Speaker 1: point of a football game. And you know, we hear
Speaker 1: it every year. And even Connor Or who was at
Speaker 1: the metal enswer this game, we were I aming on Slack,
Speaker 1: Quit Slack and sign up for Slack today, and he
Speaker 1: was saying, how the the idea of Tom Coughlan gets
Speaker 1: floated as being fired this time every year, and it
Speaker 1: happened again. I think it was on the cover of
Speaker 1: the post. But this year I think it's actually gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I think the nature of all these losses, the fact
Speaker 1: that I have a feeling that they will be on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in by the end of the season,
Speaker 1: and the fact that this was such a visible loss
Speaker 1: to the Jets, where there's some heat between these two
Speaker 1: teams obviously always has been. Uh he's seventy years old.
Speaker 1: I bet I guess. Listen, if if the Giants were
Speaker 1: to fire Tom Cofflin or he would retire at their behest.
Speaker 1: This would not be a tragedy. It's time to start fresh.
Speaker 1: He's been there forever and ever, but this team no longer.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it doesn't respond to him, but
Speaker 1: it's a certain point you got. There has to be action.
Speaker 1: There's too many losses like this this year. Is there
Speaker 1: a part of you that if this was the loss
Speaker 1: that sets that in motion, that it is the New
Speaker 1: York Jets that get rid of Tom Coughlin. Is there
Speaker 1: a little part of you that is either framing that
Speaker 1: narrative or enjoying the concept of that narrative not so much.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything against Tom Cofflin, but I will
Speaker 1: say that Jets haven't beat the Giants since And I
Speaker 1: remember it. It was Halloween nine um. I was at
Speaker 1: a wrestling event at Rockland Community College in New York.
Speaker 1: But I heard that Ronnie Lott had a game ceiling intersect.
Speaker 1: I was watching a sing that it was like it
Speaker 1: was like off brand WWF. It was like hacks led
Speaker 1: Jim dug In in in the Independent League. My dad took
Speaker 1: me and my sister, uh So, I remember hearing about
Speaker 1: it on the way home. It was like a ten
Speaker 1: six win. Uh that's how long it's been. And and
Speaker 1: of course, the last time these two teams played, Victor
Speaker 1: Cruz had the ninety nine yard or that catapulted the
Speaker 1: Giants toward another Super Bowl and basically was one of
Speaker 1: the low points of the Rex era. UH. So it's
Speaker 1: nice to be on this side of the win. The
Speaker 1: Jets of lost games like this for forty years, so
Speaker 1: it was to see the Giants collapse. And and I
Speaker 1: think the one thing I also want to get to
Speaker 1: is the the big point of this game. The Giants
Speaker 1: were up twenty to ten with I believe eight minutes
Speaker 1: to play, first and ten from the Jets twelve yard line.
Speaker 1: Uh and a series of plays comes through where it
Speaker 1: ends up being fourth and two from the Jets four.
Speaker 1: They elect to go for it, Eli can't find anybody,
Speaker 1: throws a pick. The Jets convert the next ensuing possession
Speaker 1: into a field goal, tie the game with a touchdown,
Speaker 1: The next drive kick a field goal in overtime to
Speaker 1: take the lead, and then Josh Brown pulls a forty
Speaker 1: eight yard or, a classic gag job in a season
Speaker 1: of gag jobs by the Giants the Jets on the
Speaker 1: other side of one for once, and it feels good.
Speaker 1: How egregious is time mismanagement for a coach who's proven
Speaker 1: to be a very good coach of the past decade.
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it's not a fireball offense, Tom Colughlan.
Speaker 1: You've got one of the slowest backfields in the NFL,
Speaker 1: nothing behind Odell Beckham, that wide receiver, a beat up
Speaker 1: offensive line, no pass for USh, slow linebackers, and no safeties.
Speaker 1: And you're not doing that badly this year. To me,
Speaker 1: he's getting the most out of the personnel. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the GM should be the one they look at. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that they're closing these games are I feel
Speaker 1: like that falls right at the coach's feet. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but you've got to hire somebody who's better than him.
Speaker 1: I don't to me, a bad streak of clock management
Speaker 1: doesn't make you a bad coach. This wasn't a clock
Speaker 1: management loss, though, I mean, which I don't have a
Speaker 1: huge problem going for he said. He said after the
Speaker 1: game he was trying to and you can sell it's
Speaker 1: in their head. He was trying to relieve the pressure,
Speaker 1: almost like he's trying to score a touchdown there to
Speaker 1: just end the game, whereas if you kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: it's still to score game. It's not that big a difference.
Speaker 1: You went out with your best player holding the ball,
Speaker 1: or at least he's on the field. Odell Beckham and
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, those are your two best players. You try
Speaker 1: to let them win it. But it's a Tom Coughlin
Speaker 1: team that has no running game. I'm interested, though, in
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, during this game you talk about
Speaker 1: snarky tweeting. You were very upset about that. You said
Speaker 1: it was no I know, but you were saying it
Speaker 1: was a lot reveal magnifico game for the Jets because
Speaker 1: they were playing so poorly. For most of they were dead.
Speaker 1: I mean, the the only way they won this game,
Speaker 1: and I'm fully aware of this, is that the Giants
Speaker 1: blew it. The Jets did what they had to do
Speaker 1: and made the plays. And Ryan Fitzpatrick is the team
Speaker 1: m VP by miles and I got I can't wait
Speaker 1: till you watch this game. Greg serious in your QB index. Uh,
Speaker 1: But the Jets took a gift from the Giants. I
Speaker 1: still don't trust them. They got the Titans in their
Speaker 1: building next week. Do I think that they're gonna roll
Speaker 1: over Marcus Mariota, Absolutely not, especially if Derel rieves. This
Speaker 1: is another week. Uh so, Yeah, I think the Jets
Speaker 1: are still a flawed team. But they're seven and five
Speaker 1: and they're in the mix. They're in the playoffs. This
Speaker 1: season ended today. If the Jets make the playoffs stand yes,
Speaker 1: do they get replaced by the Detroit Lions as the
Speaker 1: number two team? And your pain rankings at this stage
Speaker 1: after two straight coaching staffs take New York to the postseason,
Speaker 1: Well that would. We're a long way from there, but
Speaker 1: that Lions lost would certainly if I ever did it
Speaker 1: in loss alone would do it. That loss might move
Speaker 1: them up. It was that bad. How about Tom Coughland
Speaker 1: comes back on Twitter and as riverboat Tom. Yeah, going
Speaker 1: over on Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, friends, there you're not seeing
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin anywhere social media. So the Jets are alive
Speaker 1: and life is good. Let's move on and talk a more.
Speaker 1: A f C wild card race the Houston Texans and
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So we were doing good Buffalo Bills. We
Speaker 1: guess what I thought heading into this week, and we
Speaker 1: got it in Orchard Park on Sunday, Charles Clay took
Speaker 1: advantage of a busted coverage for a decisive forty yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, giving the Bills a thirty to one win,
Speaker 1: keeping them in contention in the a f C West.
Speaker 1: How shocked through to see Tyrod Taylor having success against
Speaker 1: the Texans d that had been swarming. I wasn't shocked
Speaker 1: by halftime because it was clear that the Buffalo kind
Speaker 1: of had Houston's number in this game. Taylor played well.
Speaker 1: The deep ball with Sammy Watkins was working well. Kevin Johnson,
Speaker 1: uh Texans first round cornerback, who had been playing really well,
Speaker 1: got benched by halftime because he gave up two touchdowns
Speaker 1: and a couple of bombs. The Bills didn't pass a
Speaker 1: whole lot, so there wasn't a lot of chances for J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt to get sacks, but they double and triple teamed him,
Speaker 1: held him without a sack and only one tackle for
Speaker 1: a loss. It was a really They did a lot
Speaker 1: of zone read stuff that was effective in the running
Speaker 1: game too. I think the Bill's offensive coaching staff out
Speaker 1: coached the Texans defensive coaching staff. I think Greg Roman
Speaker 1: has done an outstanding job with the Bills this offense.
Speaker 1: If Rex had delivered the defense that he promised, this
Speaker 1: team would be ten and two. I mean, they've delivered
Speaker 1: a great running game. Lashawn McCoy's right now playing as
Speaker 1: well as any running back in the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's right there with Adrian Peterson over the last month. Peterson,
Speaker 1: of course had had a tough Thomas Sunday Thomas Rawles,
Speaker 1: but but McCoy is right there in terms of yards
Speaker 1: per game and just how he looks week to week,
Speaker 1: especially how that's how the season started, where he thought
Speaker 1: this hamstring thing was gonna undermine his entire season. Now
Speaker 1: he's back to be in shady Yeah. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at when the Bills really struggled, a lot
Speaker 1: of it had to do with the fact that they
Speaker 1: had two or three players out of the lineup week
Speaker 1: after week during a rough middle part of the season.
Speaker 1: They're also finally getting Watkins involved. It was almost like
Speaker 1: they had to be pounded over the head by four
Speaker 1: thousand beat writers in the entire statements say please throw
Speaker 1: to this guy. But two weeks in a row, he
Speaker 1: had a great game, and the Bills are in their
Speaker 1: six and six. They're gonna be a game behind the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Steelers in the wild card race, and they
Speaker 1: played the Jets in the season finale. To me, which
Speaker 1: ever one of those teams loses in the season finale
Speaker 1: definitely won't be in And whichever team wins has a
Speaker 1: chance to be there. With the Steelers and well, the
Speaker 1: Bill's schedule is very favorable, they're gonna be I I
Speaker 1: looked at it, and I think they're gonna be favored
Speaker 1: every game until they play the Jets. I don't doesn't
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they're a lock to win. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying this was their toughest game of the next four,
Speaker 1: so they at least have a chance to go on
Speaker 1: and run. And I think the way the a f
Speaker 1: C is shaping up now, you're gonna like whoever gets
Speaker 1: in of those two wild card spots of the a
Speaker 1: f C there, it's gonna be a really interesting playoffs
Speaker 1: because they're all gonna be capable of winning, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be on a roll to get in there.
Speaker 1: Whether it's the Chiefs or the Bills, or the Jets
Speaker 1: or the Steelers. I think it's gonna be two of
Speaker 1: those teams, maybe nervous the number three seed, Patriots seed
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about subconsciously. Well, let me ask, all
Speaker 1: those teams are good. Do you trust Rex Ryan to
Speaker 1: do this no matter what the schedule is. Can he
Speaker 1: don't trust him to go into Washington where the Redskins
Speaker 1: are five and one and win. That's fair. I I
Speaker 1: also don't really trust their defense to turn into the
Speaker 1: defense that we expected. I mean, would you even say
Speaker 1: they were that defense today? It wasn't a great Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyer played pretty well. They head over a hundred rushing yards.
Speaker 1: I don't think the defense was that great today. And
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Rex. I mean, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be uncharted Warders when you get to late December. He's
Speaker 1: he's had playoff runs. He's He's not a guy that's gonna,
Speaker 1: I think, collapse under the face of press and scrutiny.
Speaker 1: I think Rex I don't see him as a liability
Speaker 1: heading down the stretch. I'm not sure he's been a
Speaker 1: little liability in some of these games, but they's never
Speaker 1: had Greg Roman running his office. Taylor reminds me of
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's first season. I mean, he's not reaching those kind
Speaker 1: of heights, but It's kind of like when you hit
Speaker 1: the right game plan and you are kind of winning
Speaker 1: the coaching battles, like that team is impossible to stop.
Speaker 1: And that was like Kaepernick in his first year with Rogan.
Speaker 1: Let's talk more af C playoff hopefuls. Alex Smith continued
Speaker 1: his uh amazing streak without an interception, and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: had no problem moving the ball against the Raiders, a
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty win in Oakland over the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Mark the Chiefs come back continues, Uh, you know this
Speaker 1: is a straight up rise from the dead for them,
Speaker 1: while the Raiders fade from view. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: better team one. I mean, it's it was a kind
Speaker 1: of game that went back and forth. It was twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty at one point. Because of the fact that
Speaker 1: three extra points were missed in this game exciting. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's the I can't think of a game this
Speaker 1: season or wherever obviously that where the extra point played
Speaker 1: a bigger role than it did today. It was absolutely
Speaker 1: weird to watch Sebastian Janekowski missed an extra point. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs guy, he has no friends in the locker room.
Speaker 1: He missed too. But it also ties us no, No,
Speaker 1: Cairo Cairo at the key field goal to yes, he did.
Speaker 1: It was a longer field goal, but yes. But this
Speaker 1: charts back to the fact that it was close down
Speaker 1: the stretch and Derek Carr. We have not seen a
Speaker 1: game like this from him this year. Three very ugly turnovers,
Speaker 1: including a pick six that really, you know, with ten
Speaker 1: minutes to go, this was anyone's game, and then it
Speaker 1: suddenly became Kansas City's game, with just enough from Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: who became the third quarterback in history to throw three
Speaker 1: hundred plus passes without a pick. The other two Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and who Bernie Kazar, Oh, good old Bernie season
Speaker 1: believe I mean, you're you're talking about the missed extra
Speaker 1: points where if you're watching on YouTube, it's the most
Speaker 1: more mixed extra points today. Then there was all of
Speaker 1: last season, including the first ever two point return, which
Speaker 1: was in the Saints game. That was one of the
Speaker 1: more exciting things I've seen. I've been waiting for that
Speaker 1: all year. There was one last week that was called
Speaker 1: back for penalty and it's here. It was history, goose bumps,
Speaker 1: special history. Just put the Chiefs in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1: If you had to draw up the easiest schedule schedule
Speaker 1: possible for a playoff hopeful. It's hard to do better
Speaker 1: than Kansas Cities, which is home versus the Chargers at
Speaker 1: Baltimore and matt shob home to Cleveland and home to
Speaker 1: the team you just beat today on the road, the
Speaker 1: Oakland rad that's probably and you probably only have to
Speaker 1: win three of those to get in. Ten wins, there's
Speaker 1: a good chance that'll that'll get you in. They'll be
Speaker 1: heavily favorite, And now I would argue they've earned it too,
Speaker 1: because this is not a fluke team. It took them
Speaker 1: will to get the run game going today, but they
Speaker 1: have a lot of different pieces and parts. I still
Speaker 1: look at Alex Smith as a guy that if you
Speaker 1: get into a wild shootout, I'm not sure he's going
Speaker 1: to get you out of that. But a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago in the playoffs, he was twice in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think he's not not somebody that's
Speaker 1: an exciting quarterback, but this guy, he's playing very clean football.
Speaker 1: If it gets to that, he's shown he's done that
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't mind having Alex Smith is
Speaker 1: my quarterback. I mean, it sounded like like a hot take.
Speaker 1: But when I was watching the last you know, the
Speaker 1: four PM games, and the Patriots are struggling and the
Speaker 1: Panthers are going back and forth, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: are the Chiefs the best team playing right now? Are
Speaker 1: the Chiefs? Are the Chiefs right now? I'm just saying
Speaker 1: better than the Panthers. The Cardinals would beat him by
Speaker 1: two touch if you're just talking about the six weeks
Speaker 1: and that's all you've watched. They can't do anymore than
Speaker 1: what they're doing, which is winning every game by two scores,
Speaker 1: which is doing it in every complete way possible. They
Speaker 1: have a good secondary, they're running the ball well, and
Speaker 1: they're moving it on offense at will. So it's like
Speaker 1: they can't do anything more than what they're doing. And
Speaker 1: I like teams that when you get into a hole
Speaker 1: there one in five, they aren't afraid to change their
Speaker 1: identity up a little bit and dig into what they are.
Speaker 1: And that's the Chiefs. Their season could have if it
Speaker 1: was not as well coached and the leadership weren't as
Speaker 1: good in that locker room, that team could be one
Speaker 1: in ten right now instead. That is a good coaching
Speaker 1: job by by any coach to get out of that
Speaker 1: kind of hole shows you're a good coach. But how
Speaker 1: about the fact that no chief wide receiver is called
Speaker 1: a touchdown invest the season. I was waiting it was
Speaker 1: car was overdue by the I mean, he played really
Speaker 1: great last week, and one of the things that wrote
Speaker 1: is that everything like he hasn't had one of one
Speaker 1: of those games, that even just one of those games
Speaker 1: this year out of out of twelve. And then now
Speaker 1: I'm real quickly. I mean, he missed the throw that
Speaker 1: would have been a touchdown right before he threw an
Speaker 1: awful in your set. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: That he cost them points in a couple different ways.
Speaker 1: But he also threw the one of the best passes
Speaker 1: all season on a touchdown in the first half to
Speaker 1: crab Tree where he's put it right between two defenders.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's got this guy's gives them a
Speaker 1: lot of hope. I don't care about what happened today, Alright,
Speaker 1: moving forward, let's talk about the NFC playoff. Picture of guys,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, they're freaking back. Russell Wilson was at his
Speaker 1: very best, accounting for four touchdowns as the defending conference
Speaker 1: champs outclassed. Yeah, you heard that they outclassed the host
Speaker 1: Vikings thirty eight seven. The victory for Seattle. Greg. This
Speaker 1: game tells us a Seahawks remain of force while also
Speaker 1: serving as something of a nify call for the Vikings. Correct,
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean this is twice that they mcniffy
Speaker 1: call every teams having the reveal today. Everyone gets it.
Speaker 1: I agree about the Vikings. This is twice they're getting
Speaker 1: blown out in their own building. I don't need to
Speaker 1: hear from Vikings fans that they cost two key defenders
Speaker 1: early because those guys weren't playing on offen I mean,
Speaker 1: no one got hurt on offense, and they didn't score
Speaker 1: a point on offense and they only five yards the Seahawks. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we're the story here, and I'm gonna start talking about
Speaker 1: their young players. I mean, I think that's why it
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if we're covering them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They'd have to win three road playoff games most likely
Speaker 1: to get there. But they're young players are playing so
Speaker 1: well right now. Uh, Tyler Lockett playing unbelievable now as
Speaker 1: a receiver and a returner, had a big day. Frank
Speaker 1: Clark is suddenly coming on, had a couple of sacks today. Uh,
Speaker 1: you put Luke Wilson in at tight end. He makes
Speaker 1: a couple of unbelievable plays early in the game. Even
Speaker 1: you know, you bench Kerry Williams, you put in de
Speaker 1: Shan Shed He played really well cornerback. I think he
Speaker 1: was probably the played well last week, at least compared
Speaker 1: to the rest of the second dary too. So you
Speaker 1: get all that going, you get an offensive line that's
Speaker 1: now protecting Russell Wilson much better, and it's like this
Speaker 1: team looks like a juggernauting And if you're John's Night,
Speaker 1: are you just been praised for the past four seasons
Speaker 1: for developing the first wave of talent that we have
Speaker 1: known for so long, And some of them are moving
Speaker 1: on to some degrees, most of them are in their prime.
Speaker 1: And here comes the second wave. And I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't even mentioned Thomas Rawls. You know, the undrafted guy
Speaker 1: who went over a hundred yards again, who's at the
Speaker 1: end of that that collection of spicetrack on Thomas Rawls West.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear from spice rack on Thomas Rawls. But
Speaker 1: Greg wrote today that the Seahawks have their three highest
Speaker 1: yards There are yards totals of the year in the
Speaker 1: last three games, and it's no coincidence that it's been
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls instead of Marshawn Lynch. Rawls has thoroughly outplayed
Speaker 1: Lynch this year, that's true, and he's playing practically any
Speaker 1: running back in the league right now, and they're's wonder
Speaker 1: if Lynch is even gonna be around next year now
Speaker 1: that we've seen what len I don't expect Lynch to
Speaker 1: be on the team next year. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a good problem to have to have to play Lynch
Speaker 1: and Rawls down the stretch. And I think Rawls probably
Speaker 1: has earned, you know, more carries at this point than
Speaker 1: than Lynch. But if you have a one two punch
Speaker 1: and you can get a lead, they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough team to come from behind because I think that defense,
Speaker 1: even though it's been a little up and down, I mean,
Speaker 1: the players are all there. There's no reason why they
Speaker 1: can't be dominant like they were today. I mean, they
Speaker 1: absolutely Bridgewater. They didn't let Adrian Peterson do anything. It's
Speaker 1: not often you see an offense held to a yards
Speaker 1: that's a no dominant performance. It was you kind of expected, well,
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to kind of ruin that stat by
Speaker 1: putting up some yards in garbage time, but they just
Speaker 1: like didn't let it happen. They just hept coming after
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. Can we talk about Cordurell Patterson's kickoff return celebration,
Speaker 1: which was one of the greatest unintentional comedy moments of
Speaker 1: the season. It was standing he they are down thirty
Speaker 1: five to nothing, or is it that that's correct? He
Speaker 1: takes a kickoff a couple of yards deep in his
Speaker 1: own end zone, makes a nice move. He's giant and fast.
Speaker 1: We've always known that. So he blows away the competition
Speaker 1: and he gets around the forty yard line again, thirty
Speaker 1: five nothing. He begins high stepping to the end zone.
Speaker 1: As he crosses the goal line, he does some type
Speaker 1: of like I don't quasi Heisman post, like the Dion
Speaker 1: thing where you play. Then he jumps, runs through the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, jumps into the crowd, gives
Speaker 1: the football to a lucky fan. Hey guys, you always
Speaker 1: remember this. Get made it thirty five to six, tears
Speaker 1: off his helmet and then shouts in celebration to all
Speaker 1: his teammates come back to us. Cordarole. I feel like
Speaker 1: I've seen this before on the old Leon commercials. I mean,
Speaker 1: over under on how many times that's featured on an
Speaker 1: NFL Noil segment, I'm going six. I I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of fun. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing they could they could be
Speaker 1: happy about all. I took coronorle Patterson and you know,
Speaker 1: there was like four different parts of the celebration. There
Speaker 1: were if you watch it too, there was like different
Speaker 1: movements even while he's still in the field. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: You know. I said, we can just put the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now. We can do the same
Speaker 1: thing for the Seahawks. So the next three weeks are
Speaker 1: at Baltimore and matshob home to the Browns, home to
Speaker 1: the backsliding Rams, and close out the season against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Team almost certainly to be locked into the number two,
Speaker 1: and they're they're only gonna need three of those games,
Speaker 1: and I think they they can win in Arizona. If
Speaker 1: they can win, they can get that five seed, and
Speaker 1: that five seeds gonna be playing at the NFC East champion.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna feel like a good game if you're
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, whether it's a rematch with whatever, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson goes into FedEx Field for the second time
Speaker 1: in four years and comes away with a playoffics and
Speaker 1: and I know we want to move on, but very quickly.
Speaker 1: No one's playing better at quarterback than Russell Wilson right now.
Speaker 1: He's had three almost perfect games, and he was outstanding
Speaker 1: today in the pocket, out of the pocket when he
Speaker 1: had to scramble. I mean, he just made some of
Speaker 1: the Vikings defenders look bad. To me. What typified it
Speaker 1: was he has a fifty three yard rushing touchdown at
Speaker 1: one point, but it's called back by penalty. And then
Speaker 1: the very next play he just throws a fifty three
Speaker 1: yard touchdown the Dug Babbler And so that's just the
Speaker 1: kind of role he's in right now. I could see
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson hang with all his bros from that SI
Speaker 1: profile from a couple of years back, like watching Entourage
Speaker 1: rinking Pepsi, you know, just pig and watching himself in
Speaker 1: the Entourage movie. I want a party with Skinny dipping.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Cardinals and their rookie running back
Speaker 1: David Johnson looking good again. He went over a hundred
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage, and the Rams remained an offensive disaster.
Speaker 1: Arizona improved a tenant to with the three win. Chris
Speaker 1: Wesley and the Cardinals didn't let an inferior opponent hang
Speaker 1: around in this game. And the Rams are inferior. The
Speaker 1: Rams are dysfunctional, at least on offense. They are, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals that were concerned, not in this studio but
Speaker 1: in some other places that Chris Johnson was integral to
Speaker 1: the offense and he'd be hard to replace. In fact,
Speaker 1: David Johnson is an upgrade. He's more physical, he's a
Speaker 1: better pass catcher, uh, and he was excellent and blitz
Speaker 1: pick up, especially in the first quarter. We had three
Speaker 1: highlight blue blitz pickups. Uh. They had a five twenty
Speaker 1: four yards to day their season high, and rushed for
Speaker 1: their second US yards of the season. They are getting
Speaker 1: stronger and David Johnson is better than Chris Johnson. I
Speaker 1: totally buy all that, and it makes sense watching them.
Speaker 1: But why did Bruce arians disagree? Then? Like, why do
Speaker 1: you think the answer? What do you think the answer?
Speaker 1: I did Bruce Arians think Chris Johns Three reasons, Three reasons.
Speaker 1: David Johnson had one error filled game early in the
Speaker 1: season where he had a fumble and I believe a
Speaker 1: drop and missed past protection. Carson Palmer loved Chris Johnson's
Speaker 1: past protection and I think, and I think Arians is
Speaker 1: a loyal person who thought Chris Johnson had earned a
Speaker 1: longer rope. I mean, and it was up until about
Speaker 1: three or four games ago where Chris Johnson was sensational,
Speaker 1: But clearly in November we saw that change. And this
Speaker 1: is where the Cardinals what they didn't have last year
Speaker 1: was when they're running backs started to get injured and
Speaker 1: they couldn't run the ball. There was no one. Young
Speaker 1: Williams looked good today. Their offensive line is better than
Speaker 1: last season. And we sat in the studio in the
Speaker 1: Seahawks game on a Sunday night a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: and said, Chris Johnson just not physical enough to break
Speaker 1: tackles against good defense. Is David Johnson is physical enough.
Speaker 1: Fisher couldn't wait to get to the podium and announced
Speaker 1: that case Keenom was going to start next week. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's like I don't know if they talk
Speaker 1: about like class, you know, he's a classy guy, Like,
Speaker 1: isn't that part of class? Like he couldn't wait to
Speaker 1: bury your starting quarterback Nick Foles, who you traded for
Speaker 1: and gave that money. I don't know. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Nick Foles deserves anything. Jeff Fisher class. He's not the
Speaker 1: first coach I would think of the class or not.
Speaker 1: If the competition committee, which Jeff Fisher is a major
Speaker 1: member of it, if they have some type of like
Speaker 1: dinner party like at the Combine next year, don't think
Speaker 1: we're getting invited. I'm just gonna go out. But Fisher
Speaker 1: also set after the game that he's run out of answers.
Speaker 1: There were multiple people that tweeted that said he's run out.
Speaker 1: Has he ever had an answer for his offense? Well? Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's quite a long time ago yet,
Speaker 1: but anything else, wes no, I think that about covers
Speaker 1: and Cardinals also have scored more points and allowed fewer
Speaker 1: points than the undefeated panther is. I think they're just
Speaker 1: as good. How big has that come back against the
Speaker 1: Seahawks And that's the only Seahawks loss in their last
Speaker 1: what seven games? Now? So the Seahawks, and the would
Speaker 1: be right on the Cardinals heels if not for that
Speaker 1: huge comeback Cardinals. I think I've won six in a row. There,
Speaker 1: rolling playing good football. Moving on, also playing good football,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Jamis Winston. You know, Winston
Speaker 1: continues to show the this is what I call greg
Speaker 1: the it factor. So they're cloathing out there factor a
Speaker 1: new thing by me. Moxy is fine too. The rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback had a key first down run on third and
Speaker 1: nineteen and followed that rush four plays later with a
Speaker 1: game deciding touchdown past the Mike Evans nineteen win for
Speaker 1: the Bucks over the Falcons. Atlanta, which started the season
Speaker 1: five and oh and has lost five, has now lost
Speaker 1: five straight there six and six. The Bucks are a
Speaker 1: legit playoff contender at five hundred now, and I will
Speaker 1: hand it to first of all, we'll talk about Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston in the second here. I just want to say
Speaker 1: what the Falcons are pulling off is admirable and impressive.
Speaker 1: You could start five and oh and somehow beyond basically
Speaker 1: almost out of contention for the playoffs by the first
Speaker 1: week of December. That's hard to do. Congratulations chiefs. Can
Speaker 1: you think of the last team that did something very similar? Oh,
Speaker 1: the Broncos under got it? You get the toast there?
Speaker 1: You mean after Josh McDaniels was after being the Patriots
Speaker 1: running around Denver's home field pumping his fists, And that's right,
Speaker 1: you know how? You know how I know that Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston run was incredible because that that ends up setting
Speaker 1: up the touchdown. They would have kicked the field goal.
Speaker 1: It looked like he was down. It's what I like
Speaker 1: to call, uh, the Ortega meter. There's a man in
Speaker 1: our the Ortega meter, and then there's a Mark Ortega
Speaker 1: in our newsroom. And by the round of his exultation
Speaker 1: you can tell how good it plays. And it sounds
Speaker 1: like he gave labor to someone during that play. It
Speaker 1: was the most insane sound I've ever heard, like animals
Speaker 1: were being hurt. Well, it all Ortega's. Also, he goes
Speaker 1: through about six music shows a week. He might have
Speaker 1: just been really hungover, like throwing up in a garbage
Speaker 1: Can you know it's possible that all these things are true?
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, I mean it was funny. I was
Speaker 1: on the NFL Now Game Day Blitz program the white
Speaker 1: couch of shame or truth or something like that, and uh,
Speaker 1: I believe it was. I tell her that they they're
Speaker 1: kind of amazed by Bucky Brooks and and m j D.
Speaker 1: What kind of like an awkward athlete Jamis Winson is
Speaker 1: that he doesn't he's not fluid in his movements. I think,
Speaker 1: Ike Taylor, here's the run. If you're watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: I teller referred to him as like an old Volvo. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't a Jaguar racing down the track.
Speaker 1: But he gets the job done. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: really interesting guy, a fun guy to watch, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna win Offensive Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year this year. Marcus Mariota is putting on putting a
Speaker 1: lot of numbers up now, but Mark Cooper is having
Speaker 1: a big ear. There's some options tied girl if he
Speaker 1: could finish strong. But they got this right. And think
Speaker 1: about all the talk that went on in the off
Speaker 1: season about is this guy going to be the right pick.
Speaker 1: He is the right pick. He's saving jobs, instilling hope.
Speaker 1: What else can you want? I get think of a
Speaker 1: few teams that would take an old Volvo right now?
Speaker 1: And that's where he is. And please what he a
Speaker 1: lights out closer in college baseball? How do we not
Speaker 1: think he's a great athlete. That's a good point. I
Speaker 1: think he's not a great not that he wasn't a
Speaker 1: great athlete, but kind of an awkward doesn't have like
Speaker 1: the fluid movement people would say Ben Roethlisberger he was.
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is a phenomenal. He was known for closing out
Speaker 1: games too, in terms of making big comes back backs
Speaker 1: in college. And you've seen that at the end of
Speaker 1: these games that he's confident he had he had that quote.
Speaker 1: I think I think we haven't talking about what he
Speaker 1: said to his team right before the game winning drive
Speaker 1: going to Houdel the long drive. Guys time, I said,
Speaker 1: who wants to touchdown? I smile, said who wants to touchdown?
Speaker 1: Might say me? Me, me? And I said, all right,
Speaker 1: you can get He's fun. I like it. I like
Speaker 1: James Wilson. You bring up a good point, Greg, because
Speaker 1: Albert Brier wrote in his note a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a good looking at the Bucks and how impressed and
Speaker 1: really surprised they are by his leadership this season two.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that back in May when
Speaker 1: we knew it all, we're gonna say, oh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: throw forty interceptions, the guy is gonna be a turnover machine.
Speaker 1: Insteadies everything the opposite of what we thought he'd be.
Speaker 1: And he's completely surprising. I remember we were saying we
Speaker 1: didn't he can't handle it. We don't him in the
Speaker 1: New York with the Jets good to handle the media nonsense.
Speaker 1: You know. I think you were joking about the it factor,
Speaker 1: and the Geeks will tell us that there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: Everything I know about the history of football tells me
Speaker 1: there is a factor with quarterbacks, and I think he
Speaker 1: has it. And right now Matt Ryan's the opposite. I mean,
Speaker 1: he sets up the game when he touched on there's
Speaker 1: still time enough for Atlanta to go down and try
Speaker 1: to try to put some points on the board and win.
Speaker 1: And Ryan then throws his internets like which has become
Speaker 1: a weekly thing. He's not the reason they're losing, but
Speaker 1: he's also not the He's not it's got nothing, yeah that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not all on him. And there's the other.
Speaker 1: I mean, he deserves obviously blamed for really falling back
Speaker 1: this year, but he targeted Julio Jones seventeen times in
Speaker 1: this game because he has nobody else to throw to.
Speaker 1: Like when Roddy White had a catch in this game,
Speaker 1: it was almost like they had to stop the game.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, having yeah, having address to the
Speaker 1: crowd like Brett Farr. But I mean it's gotten to that.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about this offense. DeVonta Freeman, remember
Speaker 1: when he had eight touchdowns in four or five games
Speaker 1: back in September and October. He's come down to earth.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a one yard game or a rushing
Speaker 1: touchdown in five weeks. So when you take that element
Speaker 1: out of their offense and the fact that they don't
Speaker 1: have weapons and Matt Ryan is not playing at his best,
Speaker 1: it should is no surprise that their season has went
Speaker 1: down into this not the first time that Kyle Shanahan's
Speaker 1: offense is going off a cliff in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving post Thanksgiving. So you say no regrets about Kyle
Speaker 1: getting out getting out the door, I have so many
Speaker 1: regrets about the Cleveland Brownston. Let's not go back there,
Speaker 1: all right, Let's move on then. I'm sorry, Mark, It's fine, Okay.
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins became the latest team to collect a
Speaker 1: pick six from Matt Shop to keep play in a
Speaker 1: fifteen to thirteen victory over the Ravens in Miami. Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill through for just eighty six yards in his first
Speaker 1: game without former offensive coordinator Bill Laser, but Miami did
Speaker 1: enough to keep their I'll say their faint play. If
Speaker 1: they're on the NFL dot Com grid like in the Hunt,
Speaker 1: I'll say faint. They put them back on there today.
Speaker 1: I noticed TV graphics because they won this game. They
Speaker 1: basically have to win out. They gotta win four in
Speaker 1: a row and hope multiple teams collapse. So that's not
Speaker 1: really but there's nothing. There's nothing with the Ravens though
Speaker 1: they are done. Uh, anybody have something to say about
Speaker 1: this game? This was not pretty football in Miami. Well,
Speaker 1: I was tasked with watching this, and I really don't
Speaker 1: think we should spend more than a minute one match
Speaker 1: up another pick six. This guy is unbelievable. It's unbelie
Speaker 1: He's unbelievably bad luck though, I mean, this wasn't totally
Speaker 1: He's an artist and he's painting with interception happening. This
Speaker 1: he's the greatest pick six artist of all time. You
Speaker 1: gotta respect it. I mean, it's his corner. It's not
Speaker 1: a corner that you would say is lovable or something
Speaker 1: you'd want to be remembered as Yet he says, this
Speaker 1: is mine. I'm owning it, you know. In a Christmas
Speaker 1: story where the narrator describes his dad as weaving a
Speaker 1: tapestry with cuss words, shop weaves a tapestry with pick sixes?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Yeah? But to do it right?
Speaker 1: I will say this. There's one hopeful thing for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Seconds left. Mark buck Allen did a nice job. Hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy combined yards today a big threat as a
Speaker 1: pass catcher out in the backfield. Listen, there's not a
Speaker 1: lot to like. Ppr leagues, twelve catches going there, but
Speaker 1: six seconds Vonte park Or too. Something for the Dolphins fans,
Speaker 1: a little touchdown two weeks frow there you go, and
Speaker 1: finally West in a Christmas story, what is the name
Speaker 1: of the father in Christmas story and the credits? I
Speaker 1: do not know? His name is the old man? M
Speaker 1: Moving on? Nice trivia, Dan, Thank you hey, whenever you
Speaker 1: can bang the mail and with some trivia, this is
Speaker 1: a great day. Dam got to tell you you couldn't
Speaker 1: get the Christmas storything I got. I gotta Jets win
Speaker 1: over the Giants. I got a Patriots loss. I got
Speaker 1: Milana vine chop our fantasy team clinching a bye. I
Speaker 1: got my League of Record fantasy team first place. I'm
Speaker 1: flying home tonight. I basically just took all the bad
Speaker 1: things that today. Let's get some Young Monday. We got
Speaker 1: some Young Monday, and we just spent more time on
Speaker 1: Dan's Fantasy league. In the minute on this game, Brandon,
Speaker 1: what's going on? We got some Young Monday back here.
Speaker 1: You don't know Young Monday. It would be fine if
Speaker 1: you don't. America hasn't get your Dan handsas, But you
Speaker 1: know that's the artist, Young Monday. Just give me this moment, guys, man,
Speaker 1: his best writer. You'll lead. Now, listen to the sounds
Speaker 1: from round the league. I heard from David Elier, editor
Speaker 1: whose friends with the Young Monday, that he was changing
Speaker 1: his name Tuesday. No, he ditched the the the singing career,
Speaker 1: I believe, and just dropped the Monica all together. I'll
Speaker 1: have to get involved with this because I think he
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent. Moving on. Um is blame
Speaker 1: Gabbert Good. Yes, the former draft bust at Torry Smith
Speaker 1: on a seventy one yard touchdown pass in overtime, the
Speaker 1: difference in the win over the Bears at Soldier Field,
Speaker 1: Gabbertt helped force over time with a forty four yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run. What is happening here? So yes again? Um
Speaker 1: is blame Gabbert Good? Or do the Bears just suck West?
Speaker 1: You were saying the forty four yard run? What's happening here?
Speaker 1: Next gen stats have been pretty informative. He entering this game,
Speaker 1: he had four of the five fastest speeds in the
Speaker 1: last month by a quarterback. He can move, baby, He's
Speaker 1: perfect for a rollout offense. I went to we were
Speaker 1: talking about next time, didn't Carson Palmer have the fastest
Speaker 1: run of the year or something? For a quarter He
Speaker 1: had a faster run than any of Adrian Peterson's runs
Speaker 1: last week College I think, by the way, tweeted out
Speaker 1: congrats to blame and the rest of the team keep roll,
Speaker 1: and like, how how much is he writing that through
Speaker 1: gritted teeth that he's not writing anything that Blaine Gabbert
Speaker 1: is looking so much better than Capri didn't even know
Speaker 1: the nine is played today. Also for for all the
Speaker 1: people in a conga line waiting to put Jake Cutler
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and give him the MVP
Speaker 1: Award this year because he's doing so great. Come on,
Speaker 1: like everybody just falling all over themselves to say, Jake
Speaker 1: Cutler is awesome. One touchdown in his last three games, Gabert,
Speaker 1: they will move the ball at all for three quarters either.
Speaker 1: But that contract is one of the biggest bargains in football.
Speaker 1: They have him under contract. I think for like one
Speaker 1: point five million next year that he is a good
Speaker 1: option to be a starter if he was gonna be
Speaker 1: a free agent. I'm not saying he would work out
Speaker 1: where ever he went, but he would get a good contract.
Speaker 1: And they're lucky to have him because they can now
Speaker 1: draft someone to pair with him. Four yards per attempt
Speaker 1: before overtime. Look who he's throwing to. I understand. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they don't want to crown Jake Cutler. I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to do that with what is ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: know what Jake Cutler is, because we know who Blaine
Speaker 1: Gabbert is. To Gabbard, is a good argument to not
Speaker 1: always judge quarterbacks after three years on a terrible football team.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, let's just continue to wait
Speaker 1: and see and not draw a final conclusion at this point. Right, No,
Speaker 1: he's going to can Gabbert. Okay, they're gonna actually rename
Speaker 1: it Gabbert Gabbert. Ohio. That's where that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 1: That would be controversial. Moving on, the Marcus Mariota put
Speaker 1: the Titans ahead for good with an eighty seven yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run, finally seeing those legs midway through a crazy
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the defining play in a wild nine
Speaker 1: win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mariota threw two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: to go with a hundred and twelve yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: How dueling Blake Boardles, who fired five touchdown passes himself.
Speaker 1: This game probably means squat gentlemen from a playoff standpoint,
Speaker 1: but these quarterbacks at least make these teams interesting, Greg,
Speaker 1: And that's where something the kids are all right. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Winston, Mariota, Boardles, all the young guys, car Like,
Speaker 1: all these guys, all their teams have to be really
Speaker 1: happy with what they're where they're at. I mean, I
Speaker 1: wish this was the game on Thursday Night Football. There
Speaker 1: were seven touchdowns in the fourth quarter of this game.
Speaker 1: There were six touchdowns in the first eight minutes of
Speaker 1: the first fourth quarter of this game. It's incredible that
Speaker 1: Jaguars are so bad when Bordles is on pace for
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns and yards, Allen Robinson's on pace for
Speaker 1: four fifty yards and fourteen touchdowns and Mariota one of
Speaker 1: the best rookie games we've seen. Well, it's the I
Speaker 1: mean the defense, the Jaguars defense. But but this way,
Speaker 1: the Chargers scored three points at home, then they scored
Speaker 1: thirty three points in Jacksonville. Then they returned home and
Speaker 1: they scored three points. That's what the Jaguars defense is
Speaker 1: right now. Who's that on? Gus Bradley. Sure, but you
Speaker 1: can't make a call, Well, you can't make a coaching
Speaker 1: change when you're young quarterbacks on pace for three I
Speaker 1: don't somebody say Young Monday bring him out of retirement?
Speaker 1: Can complay? I would like his text? I wonder who
Speaker 1: Monday is? Young Monday Brandon behind the Glass. Young Monday
Speaker 1: is the performer. He's a emerging hip hop artist in
Speaker 1: southern California who wrote and performed the hit single get You.
Speaker 1: Dan hanss Okay, that's a pretty good song. Actually, this
Speaker 1: episode has to be the record for game reviews Deep
Speaker 1: six by listen to the songs listen to. They said,
Speaker 1: I had heard this and around the lag time NFL
Speaker 1: drinking game where you you drink every time, Dan goes
Speaker 1: third person because I think you're up to like four
Speaker 1: sobriety from some fatalities. I would think anybody else of
Speaker 1: anything else in this game. Uh, if not, let's move
Speaker 1: to Sunday Night football. We've had some nice prime time
Speaker 1: games this year. This was not one of them. The
Speaker 1: Steelers and Cults. The Steelers really outclassed the Cults, led
Speaker 1: by Matt Hasselbeck, a forty five to ten win for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: a game in which Ben Roethlisberger, who looks as good
Speaker 1: as ever right now, through for four touchdowns three sixty
Speaker 1: four no interceptions. D'Angelo Williams went over a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty total yards, Mark Thomas Bryant and Antonio Brown each
Speaker 1: one over a hundred yards with touchdowns. Uh, this was
Speaker 1: a one sided affair, Greg Rosenthal, between a team the
Speaker 1: cults that listen, they're they're limited without Andrew Luck, they're
Speaker 1: not a great team, and the Steelers are a real
Speaker 1: favorite in the C. I stupidly thought this could be
Speaker 1: one of the games of the week. I was interested
Speaker 1: in watching it. In the first quarter and a half,
Speaker 1: the Colts are leading, and we talked about it before
Speaker 1: we started. It felt like a team that was playing
Speaker 1: its best just to stay in the game for a
Speaker 1: quarter and a half and then just an avalanche of
Speaker 1: Big Bend just dropped all over him. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: we just talked about the Chiefs, the Bills, the Jets,
Speaker 1: all two teams that have postseason hopes, But it's Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: for me. If you have Big Ben and he's healthy,
Speaker 1: the way this offense is playing, I don't care what
Speaker 1: seed they are. I don't care how many playoff games
Speaker 1: they have to deal with. They could go the entire way.
Speaker 1: In the a f C. Dan used the word outclass,
Speaker 1: which is perfect because it's one thing for Matt Hasselbeck
Speaker 1: to play the game manager rule and beat four bad teams.
Speaker 1: But you come up against the Steelers team. This is
Speaker 1: what they've done offensively over the past month. Five seven yards,
Speaker 1: four hundred fifty nine yards, five hundred thirty eight yards,
Speaker 1: five two yards. The one game they didn't hit five
Speaker 1: hundred yards was the game that Landry Jones started and
Speaker 1: Big Ben's came into relief. This is the best month
Speaker 1: long stretch of offense than any team they had all year. Wow.
Speaker 1: And I think with the Steelers, that's like what you
Speaker 1: were saying, Mark. When I look at it from the
Speaker 1: perspective of a Jets team at seven and five, I
Speaker 1: see the Steelers of the team. They're gonna take one
Speaker 1: of those wild cards. They're too talented. The only thing
Speaker 1: that we just put the Steelers and Chiefs in the playoffs. See.
Speaker 1: I won't go that far with Casey, but the Steelers
Speaker 1: barring another Big Ben injury, which let's be honest, we
Speaker 1: can't rule out. The guy gets hurt now from time
Speaker 1: to time and could miss time. But I think they
Speaker 1: are so much better than most of the a f C.
Speaker 1: And they show it on a weekly basis basis. And
Speaker 1: they have to play the two top seeds in the
Speaker 1: next two weeks, the Bengals and Broncos, so they might
Speaker 1: be better than those teams. Maybe they'll win both of
Speaker 1: those games. Maybe they both those kids that they didn't
Speaker 1: split at least but let's say let's give him a split.
Speaker 1: But that opens the door and it makes it more
Speaker 1: interesting for teams like the Jets maybe aren't as good,
Speaker 1: but it opens the door form But let's have to
Speaker 1: win two right in the Bills and the Jets are
Speaker 1: about to be in any team when their skin. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the games at Pittsburgh one when there was
Speaker 1: no big Ben and Levy on Bell has been out
Speaker 1: for a big chunk of the year. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is one of the most resilient teams in the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: They're consistent week to week. You get them in there.
Speaker 1: I don't care who they play with. They could deal
Speaker 1: with New England, they could take them down on a
Speaker 1: good day. And and their performance last week having the
Speaker 1: lead and then blowing it against Seattle in Seattle, it
Speaker 1: looks a little different even today when you see how
Speaker 1: well Seattle is playing. Are two of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL going to toe to toe in Seattle
Speaker 1: last week? What I think today did was put away
Speaker 1: any hope that the a f C South is going
Speaker 1: to get a wild card team. That's over with the
Speaker 1: Texans with a bad road loss. But you were the
Speaker 1: only person in America. They literally were in the playoffs
Speaker 1: if if it ends, Yeah, but nobody believed that was
Speaker 1: the hold true for five weeks, No, no one did.
Speaker 1: You're right? Um? Any other thoughts about this game, gentleman,
Speaker 1: I think we covered it. I think the Colts defense
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten any better this year, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to stop the Steelers offense
Speaker 1: at this point except for a very good defense, and
Speaker 1: the colt just aren't that. They haven't shown any progress
Speaker 1: really throughout the season. When's that Andrew Lack coming back
Speaker 1: week not half spec left this game with an injury.
Speaker 1: Never good When Charlie Whitehurst, as much as we love
Speaker 1: clipboard jesus here around the NFL podcast, when he's in
Speaker 1: the game and only signals bad things. Uh? Speaking of
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, Mark, did you happen to see uh,
Speaker 1: Bob Costas is jaunty scar? Yeah? I saw a tweet
Speaker 1: from a Colleen Wolf who noticed that it wasn't just
Speaker 1: a scarf but a turtleneck. Slighted that is a power
Speaker 1: combination for Costas. You call that a power turtle neck.
Speaker 1: Never those two words have never been put back to
Speaker 1: back before we made history on the Round the NFL
Speaker 1: podcasts now, Mark, thank you for doing that for us.
Speaker 1: A night between that and all your favorite players running
Speaker 1: around for Pittsburgh, Big Ben James Harrison had a big night.
Speaker 1: He's angels. Love that guy. I cannot wait to get
Speaker 1: out of the studio. Well, we're gonna let you out
Speaker 1: of the studio right now, Mark, rest up, buddy. We
Speaker 1: will be back. Just no, we're gonna be back on
Speaker 1: Tuesday with Colin. Gonna work on Monday. Can't wait to
Speaker 1: get back in the studio for that. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you have to come into work tomorrow. Also pump out
Speaker 1: high octane posts. Maybe a couple of the Browns. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see all right, I'm not promised. I want to
Speaker 1: sunny this position with it too. Happy Mark, alright, So
Speaker 1: we'll be back on Tuesday. Colleen Wolf will sit in
Speaker 1: on the show again. We love having Connie Fox with us,
Speaker 1: so she'll be back. So make sure you check that out.
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