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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast would be a good bit

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Speaker 1: for Chip Kelly's office. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined, but I room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up boys? Hey Dan,

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Speaker 1: Happy Sunday to you. What a Sunday, Great day in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Not just for me, because some things broke

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Speaker 1: the old Zeuser's way, which is always you know, it's

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Speaker 1: nice when that happens. When the third person comes out

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Speaker 1: within thirty seconds of the show. Absolutely that's a sign

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Speaker 1: right there. But also there are a lot of great

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Speaker 1: games today, a lot of action, a lot of big plays,

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Speaker 1: a lot of missed extra points, which I believe the

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Speaker 1: league believes that makes a more exciting league. Uh and

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Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps it does, west I think so. But a

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Speaker 1: lot a lot of show out there to get to.

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Speaker 1: And this is our big Sunday recap show where we

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Speaker 1: go over every game. I like I've said before, I

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Speaker 1: like to look it at it like you know inside

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Speaker 1: the NFL used to do with Len Dawson, Nick Bonacantie.

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Speaker 1: We give every game the respect it deserves, and we

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Speaker 1: go through each game, we break it down, because that's

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Speaker 1: how why you give me that look, Greg. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple of games will we'll respect a little less,

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Speaker 1: but there will be ravens. Let's not give it too

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Speaker 1: much respect, right. It's it's been such a good I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know last week, I think it was last Sunday's show,

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Speaker 1: I was running by a slogan that I was going

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Speaker 1: to pitch to the higher ups. Remember it was NFL

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Speaker 1: never been better, right that? I got two new ones.

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Speaker 1: You guys, let me know what you think. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: NFL get a load of this action not solid alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: there's this one too, NFL um. I think I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan for life like that. I like it. That just

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Speaker 1: rolls right off the tongue. You can fit that easily

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Speaker 1: on bumper stickers. You know. It sells it is that

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Speaker 1: Dan loves it, and that shows that shows the listener

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Speaker 1: and in the NFL fans out there. If you love it,

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna love it. I like that. I like that

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Speaker 1: outlook on things, Greg. Today's show coming up, we have

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Speaker 1: the showdown between the Saints and Panthers, which became a

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Speaker 1: shootout down on the Superdome, the Saint showing a pulse,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots the throne of ease. We have some trouble

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Speaker 1: Greg on the throne of ease, and we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Also Sunday Night football, the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on Matt

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Speaker 1: Hasselbeck and the Colts. Hasselbeck looking to move to five

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Speaker 1: and oh, so we'll talk about whether that happened the NFL. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm a fan for life, That's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: This is before the show. You know, Dan was giggling

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Speaker 1: to himself for four or five minutes, and now we

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Speaker 1: know what that one got me. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I think it just works pay off for the three

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Speaker 1: of us. So as well as just wait till, wait

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Speaker 1: till the feedback online, people are gonna be connecting with us.

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Speaker 1: I got a feeling. Um, all right, let's get right

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Speaker 1: to the games, because there's a lot of football. There

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Speaker 1: are no buys uh to speak up, So let's go.

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Speaker 1: And let's start with those Carolina Panthers who entered UH

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Speaker 1: mail Man, the Panthers are twelve and oh and Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton might be the new favorite for league m v

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Speaker 1: P AM I crazy. I don't think that's crazy. Greg

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Speaker 1: likes to say that nobody's hotter than Russell Wilson right now,

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's got to be close. In week ten, he

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Speaker 1: at one point. Excellent game by Cam Newton. Tag again

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Speaker 1: of the year. How does Carolina give up this many

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Speaker 1: They turn all these guys into good players. Reminds me

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. John Payton also asked about Brandon Browner.

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Speaker 1: flirting with immortality. Oh, Mercury Morris, what are you gonna do? Enough?

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Speaker 1: but it fell short. Greg the Patriots shield of invincibility

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Speaker 1: not good. The charbs, they don't. They're like gremlins. They

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Speaker 1: there are legitimate concerns. Tom Brady got hurt hit thirteen times.

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Speaker 1: after being a little, uh, you know, down in terms

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Speaker 1: of production. I mean, this team is it's the best

427
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Speaker 1: Bengals team since they've made the Super Bowl. I don't

428
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Speaker 1: think there's any question about that. And they're better on defense.

429
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say they're probably better than the second

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Speaker 1: one that was in the Super bo I'm trying to

431
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Speaker 1: remember those teams. What about the Carson Palmer a c

432
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Speaker 1: L season that was pretty they were they were a

433
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Speaker 1: good team, but they were not similar similar on offense.

434
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Speaker 1: There were loaded that year on offense with Chris Henry

435
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Speaker 1: and Chris Johnson and t. J. Husman's auto, but that

436
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 1: team had a shot in a down year. But this

437
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: is a legit dominating team and people don't want to

438
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Speaker 1: discount wins like this or the one they had the instagrams,

439
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 1: but that is the best sign. That is the best

440
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Speaker 1: way you can tell who's the Super Bowl team and

441
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Speaker 1: who's the dominant who stomps the bad teams. That's the

442
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: thing year after year that you can tell, Okay, that's

443
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Speaker 1: one of the best three or four teams, right and

444
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: coming off a back losses, is it going to be

445
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: the confidence and everything creeps in? Not at all. They

446
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: came out and it's their two best showings of the

447
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Speaker 1: year total. Hammer drops and Mark, I believe you had

448
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Speaker 1: some type of imagery you wanted to share for those

449
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube for what's going on in Cleveland right now?

450
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's take it to the behind the glass?

451
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Speaker 1: Can you play our image sound effect? Really? Does it mean?

452
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Speaker 1: That's yeah? The sound effect is really saves it. I

453
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: feel for the whole city because you're watching your other

454
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: rival get better and better and grow and it's your

455
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: there is nothing to cling onto that you go into

456
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Speaker 1: the off season and say this is where the hope lies. Lebron,

457
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: that's what you can clean up. Well, that's not the

458
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Speaker 1: same sport, Greg, So something, it's something, I tell you what.

459
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Speaker 1: Mark was pretty fired up today in the newsroom. Uh,

460
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Speaker 1: very angry. I think it was a combination your your

461
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: intensity is well known, but when you take the spiriting

462
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Speaker 1: Brown's performance and then all the excitement of the day

463
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Speaker 1: otherwise in the league, including with my Jets are about

464
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Speaker 1: to get to and all these other teams you know,

465
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Speaker 1: a high big plays it all. It's just extra depressing.

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Speaker 1: I suppose at one point you told me you needed

467
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Speaker 1: a ten minute break from football well, because you know, listen,

468
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Speaker 1: I love football, I love covering it. It's a privilege

469
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Speaker 1: to have their ocuous Frank Gorka well because no, it's

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Speaker 1: I think you say you needed a tend to break

471
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Speaker 1: from you know it was not great and talked to

472
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Speaker 1: them all day. It's everything because you have to think

473
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Speaker 1: about the contrast when you and Dan went through this

474
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Speaker 1: with the Jets a few years ago, when your team

475
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Speaker 1: is not just bad and under the radar bad that

476
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Speaker 1: you're a laughing stock and you you're getting hit with

477
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Speaker 1: tweets all day long from carrying listeners, but they're like, oh,

478
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Speaker 1: how's Mark doing? Like you know what, I feel nothing

479
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Speaker 1: at this point is how I feel. The quiet storm

480
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Speaker 1: was in full effected. I believe at one time you

481
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Speaker 1: said something to the effect of every other team in

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Speaker 1: the league can go to hell. I'm tired of I'm

483
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Speaker 1: tired of it. It It was the most lopsided sided law

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Speaker 1: since two thousand five, and that's saying something, and it

485
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Speaker 1: looked that way. I'm gonna put you on the on

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Speaker 1: the spot, Mark, I set it downstairs. I would love

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Speaker 1: for you to give us some type of maybe on

488
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Speaker 1: Tuesday show an open letter, maybe speak to the Browns,

489
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Speaker 1: may the fans, to the team itself, get it all

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Speaker 1: off your chest. Can at least consider it. I'll consider it.

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Speaker 1: But here's why I don't think it means anything, because

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Speaker 1: whatever patchwork change they make or whoever they replace, it

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Speaker 1: needs a complete and utter gutting. It seems like you

494
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Speaker 1: can't have more disenfranchised people arguing behind the scenes in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of But now you're arguing for the thing

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Speaker 1: that you said the Bengals. You know that they need

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Speaker 1: to do that the Bengals didn't do, which is I'm

498
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Speaker 1: not arguing for it. I'm just saying I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to argue for. At this point. You go figure

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Speaker 1: it out. They're getting paid four hundred times more than

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Speaker 1: I am. It's not my job to figure Also, Mark

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Speaker 1: Greg's teams on a two game losing strength fort that is,

503
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Speaker 1: he understands like where you're coming from, a shared prospective.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Yes, the New York Jets,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I said, the New York Jets run

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Speaker 1: the metal lands. Let's keep it running. Um, The New

507
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Speaker 1: York Jets run the meadow lands like that's a place

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Speaker 1: that people are are even who was running. They show

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Speaker 1: up ten times a year us very bodies like a

510
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Speaker 1: swampy mall. Uh. It is the home of the four

511
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Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion Giants the one time Super Bowl

512
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Speaker 1: champion Jets. They weren't playing there when it happened. And yes,

513
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Speaker 1: there are many dead bodies in the marshes of Jersey.

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Speaker 1: But the point being is that the Jets played the

515
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Speaker 1: Giants today and they won. By God, they won. Ryan

516
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick three for three, ninety yards and two scores a

517
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: great game. But this really, to me, this story was

518
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: less about the Jets and more about the Giants, who

519
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: are five and seven, right, which doesn't eliminate you from

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Speaker 1: the NFC East, which says a lot, but the first

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Speaker 1: placed by the end of the week, right, it's sorr.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys could be one game out of

523
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Speaker 1: first if they win on on Monday night. But but

524
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Speaker 1: just more of the idea of the Giants should be

525
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm not even exaggerating, like nine in three of this season.

526
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Speaker 1: If they could just close out games like a normal team,

527
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Speaker 1: Yet they've they've lost I believe it's four and maybe

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Speaker 1: even five games that they had a lead in the

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Speaker 1: final minute of the game, final two minutes record with

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Speaker 1: fourth three. That is outrageous failure in obviously the crucial

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Speaker 1: point of a football game. And you know, we hear

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Speaker 1: it every year. And even Connor Or who was at

533
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Speaker 1: the metal enswer this game, we were I aming on Slack,

534
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Speaker 1: Quit Slack and sign up for Slack today, and he

535
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Speaker 1: was saying, how the the idea of Tom Coughlan gets

536
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Speaker 1: floated as being fired this time every year, and it

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00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: happened again. I think it was on the cover of

538
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Speaker 1: the post. But this year I think it's actually gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I think the nature of all these losses, the fact

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Speaker 1: that I have a feeling that they will be on

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Speaker 1: the outside looking in by the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that this was such a visible loss

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Speaker 1: to the Jets, where there's some heat between these two

544
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: teams obviously always has been. Uh he's seventy years old.

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00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: I bet I guess. Listen, if if the Giants were

546
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: to fire Tom Cofflin or he would retire at their behest.

547
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Speaker 1: This would not be a tragedy. It's time to start fresh.

548
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: He's been there forever and ever, but this team no longer.

549
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it doesn't respond to him, but

550
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: it's a certain point you got. There has to be action.

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00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: There's too many losses like this this year. Is there

552
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: a part of you that if this was the loss

553
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Speaker 1: that sets that in motion, that it is the New

554
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Speaker 1: York Jets that get rid of Tom Coughlin. Is there

555
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: a little part of you that is either framing that

556
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: narrative or enjoying the concept of that narrative not so much.

557
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't have anything against Tom Cofflin, but I will

558
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: say that Jets haven't beat the Giants since And I

559
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: remember it. It was Halloween nine um. I was at

560
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: a wrestling event at Rockland Community College in New York.

561
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Speaker 1: But I heard that Ronnie Lott had a game ceiling intersect.

562
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Speaker 1: I was watching a sing that it was like it

563
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: was like off brand WWF. It was like hacks led

564
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: Jim dug In in in the Independent League. My dad took

565
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Speaker 1: me and my sister, uh So, I remember hearing about

566
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: it on the way home. It was like a ten

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Speaker 1: six win. Uh that's how long it's been. And and

568
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of course, the last time these two teams played, Victor

569
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Speaker 1: Cruz had the ninety nine yard or that catapulted the

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Speaker 1: Giants toward another Super Bowl and basically was one of

571
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Speaker 1: the low points of the Rex era. UH. So it's

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00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: nice to be on this side of the win. The

573
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: Jets of lost games like this for forty years, so

574
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: it was to see the Giants collapse. And and I

575
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: think the one thing I also want to get to

576
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: is the the big point of this game. The Giants

577
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: were up twenty to ten with I believe eight minutes

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00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: to play, first and ten from the Jets twelve yard line.

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00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Uh and a series of plays comes through where it

580
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: ends up being fourth and two from the Jets four.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: They elect to go for it, Eli can't find anybody,

582
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: throws a pick. The Jets convert the next ensuing possession

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Speaker 1: into a field goal, tie the game with a touchdown,

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00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: The next drive kick a field goal in overtime to

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00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: take the lead, and then Josh Brown pulls a forty

586
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: eight yard or, a classic gag job in a season

587
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: of gag jobs by the Giants the Jets on the

588
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: other side of one for once, and it feels good.

589
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: How egregious is time mismanagement for a coach who's proven

590
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Speaker 1: to be a very good coach of the past decade.

591
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it's not a fireball offense, Tom Colughlan.

592
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: You've got one of the slowest backfields in the NFL,

593
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: nothing behind Odell Beckham, that wide receiver, a beat up

594
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: offensive line, no pass for USh, slow linebackers, and no safeties.

595
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: And you're not doing that badly this year. To me,

596
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: he's getting the most out of the personnel. It sounds

597
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: like the GM should be the one they look at. Well.

598
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: I think that they're closing these games are I feel

599
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: like that falls right at the coach's feet. That's fine,

600
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: but you've got to hire somebody who's better than him.

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00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't to me, a bad streak of clock management

602
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: doesn't make you a bad coach. This wasn't a clock

603
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: management loss, though, I mean, which I don't have a

604
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: huge problem going for he said. He said after the

605
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: game he was trying to and you can sell it's

606
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: in their head. He was trying to relieve the pressure,

607
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: almost like he's trying to score a touchdown there to

608
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: just end the game, whereas if you kick a field goal,

609
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: it's still to score game. It's not that big a difference.

610
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: You went out with your best player holding the ball,

611
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: or at least he's on the field. Odell Beckham and

612
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, those are your two best players. You try

613
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: to let them win it. But it's a Tom Coughlin

614
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: team that has no running game. I'm interested, though, in

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00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, during this game you talk about

616
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: snarky tweeting. You were very upset about that. You said

617
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: it was no I know, but you were saying it

618
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: was a lot reveal magnifico game for the Jets because

619
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Speaker 1: they were playing so poorly. For most of they were dead.

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00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the the only way they won this game,

621
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Speaker 1: and I'm fully aware of this, is that the Giants

622
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: blew it. The Jets did what they had to do

623
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: and made the plays. And Ryan Fitzpatrick is the team

624
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Speaker 1: m VP by miles and I got I can't wait

625
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: till you watch this game. Greg serious in your QB index. Uh,

626
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: But the Jets took a gift from the Giants. I

627
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: still don't trust them. They got the Titans in their

628
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: building next week. Do I think that they're gonna roll

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00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: over Marcus Mariota, Absolutely not, especially if Derel rieves. This

630
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: is another week. Uh so, Yeah, I think the Jets

631
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: are still a flawed team. But they're seven and five

632
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: and they're in the mix. They're in the playoffs. This

633
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: season ended today. If the Jets make the playoffs stand yes,

634
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Speaker 1: do they get replaced by the Detroit Lions as the

635
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: number two team? And your pain rankings at this stage

636
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: after two straight coaching staffs take New York to the postseason,

637
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Well that would. We're a long way from there, but

638
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: that Lions lost would certainly if I ever did it

639
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: in loss alone would do it. That loss might move

640
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: them up. It was that bad. How about Tom Coughland

641
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: comes back on Twitter and as riverboat Tom. Yeah, going

642
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: over on Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, friends, there you're not seeing

643
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin anywhere social media. So the Jets are alive

644
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: and life is good. Let's move on and talk a more.

645
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: A f C wild card race the Houston Texans and

646
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So we were doing good Buffalo Bills. We

647
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: guess what I thought heading into this week, and we

648
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: got it in Orchard Park on Sunday, Charles Clay took

649
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: advantage of a busted coverage for a decisive forty yard

650
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, giving the Bills a thirty to one win,

651
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: keeping them in contention in the a f C West.

652
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: How shocked through to see Tyrod Taylor having success against

653
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: the Texans d that had been swarming. I wasn't shocked

654
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: by halftime because it was clear that the Buffalo kind

655
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: of had Houston's number in this game. Taylor played well.

656
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: The deep ball with Sammy Watkins was working well. Kevin Johnson,

657
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: uh Texans first round cornerback, who had been playing really well,

658
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: got benched by halftime because he gave up two touchdowns

659
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: and a couple of bombs. The Bills didn't pass a

660
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: whole lot, so there wasn't a lot of chances for J. J.

661
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: Watt to get sacks, but they double and triple teamed him,

662
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: held him without a sack and only one tackle for

663
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: a loss. It was a really They did a lot

664
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: of zone read stuff that was effective in the running

665
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: game too. I think the Bill's offensive coaching staff out

666
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: coached the Texans defensive coaching staff. I think Greg Roman

667
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: has done an outstanding job with the Bills this offense.

668
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: If Rex had delivered the defense that he promised, this

669
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: team would be ten and two. I mean, they've delivered

670
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: a great running game. Lashawn McCoy's right now playing as

671
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: well as any running back in the league. I mean,

672
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: he's right there with Adrian Peterson over the last month. Peterson,

673
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: of course had had a tough Thomas Sunday Thomas Rawles,

674
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: but but McCoy is right there in terms of yards

675
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: per game and just how he looks week to week,

676
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: especially how that's how the season started, where he thought

677
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: this hamstring thing was gonna undermine his entire season. Now

678
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: he's back to be in shady Yeah. I think when

679
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: you look at when the Bills really struggled, a lot

680
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: of it had to do with the fact that they

681
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: had two or three players out of the lineup week

682
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: after week during a rough middle part of the season.

683
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: They're also finally getting Watkins involved. It was almost like

684
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: they had to be pounded over the head by four

685
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: thousand beat writers in the entire statements say please throw

686
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: to this guy. But two weeks in a row, he

687
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: had a great game, and the Bills are in their

688
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: six and six. They're gonna be a game behind the

689
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Steelers in the wild card race, and they

690
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: played the Jets in the season finale. To me, which

691
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: ever one of those teams loses in the season finale

692
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: definitely won't be in And whichever team wins has a

693
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: chance to be there. With the Steelers and well, the

694
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Bill's schedule is very favorable, they're gonna be I I

695
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: looked at it, and I think they're gonna be favored

696
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: every game until they play the Jets. I don't doesn't

697
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they're a lock to win. I'm

698
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: just saying this was their toughest game of the next four,

699
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: so they at least have a chance to go on

700
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: and run. And I think the way the a f

701
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: C is shaping up now, you're gonna like whoever gets

702
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: in of those two wild card spots of the a

703
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: f C there, it's gonna be a really interesting playoffs

704
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: because they're all gonna be capable of winning, because they're

705
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to be on a roll to get in there.

706
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Whether it's the Chiefs or the Bills, or the Jets

707
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: or the Steelers. I think it's gonna be two of

708
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: those teams, maybe nervous the number three seed, Patriots seed

709
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about subconsciously. Well, let me ask, all

710
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: those teams are good. Do you trust Rex Ryan to

711
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: do this no matter what the schedule is. Can he

712
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: don't trust him to go into Washington where the Redskins

713
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: are five and one and win. That's fair. I I

714
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: also don't really trust their defense to turn into the

715
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: defense that we expected. I mean, would you even say

716
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: they were that defense today? It wasn't a great Brian

717
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Hoyer played pretty well. They head over a hundred rushing yards.

718
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the defense was that great today. And

719
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Rex. I mean, it's not gonna

720
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: be uncharted Warders when you get to late December. He's

721
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: he's had playoff runs. He's He's not a guy that's gonna,

722
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: I think, collapse under the face of press and scrutiny.

723
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: I think Rex I don't see him as a liability

724
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: heading down the stretch. I'm not sure he's been a

725
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: little liability in some of these games, but they's never

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: had Greg Roman running his office. Taylor reminds me of

727
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's first season. I mean, he's not reaching those kind

728
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: of heights, but It's kind of like when you hit

729
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: the right game plan and you are kind of winning

730
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: the coaching battles, like that team is impossible to stop.

731
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: And that was like Kaepernick in his first year with Rogan.

732
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk more af C playoff hopefuls. Alex Smith continued

733
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: his uh amazing streak without an interception, and the Chiefs

734
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: had no problem moving the ball against the Raiders, a

735
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty win in Oakland over the Raiders.

736
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Mark the Chiefs come back continues, Uh, you know this

737
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: is a straight up rise from the dead for them,

738
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: while the Raiders fade from view. Yeah, I think the

739
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: better team one. I mean, it's it was a kind

740
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: of game that went back and forth. It was twenty

741
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: to twenty at one point. Because of the fact that

742
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: three extra points were missed in this game exciting. I mean,

743
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: it's it's the I can't think of a game this

744
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: season or wherever obviously that where the extra point played

745
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: a bigger role than it did today. It was absolutely

746
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: weird to watch Sebastian Janekowski missed an extra point. The

747
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs guy, he has no friends in the locker room.

748
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: He missed too. But it also ties us no, No,

749
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Cairo Cairo at the key field goal to yes, he did.

750
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: It was a longer field goal, but yes. But this

751
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: charts back to the fact that it was close down

752
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: the stretch and Derek Carr. We have not seen a

753
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: game like this from him this year. Three very ugly turnovers,

754
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: including a pick six that really, you know, with ten

755
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: minutes to go, this was anyone's game, and then it

756
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: suddenly became Kansas City's game, with just enough from Alex Smith,

757
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: who became the third quarterback in history to throw three

758
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: hundred plus passes without a pick. The other two Tom

759
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: Brady and who Bernie Kazar, Oh, good old Bernie season

760
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: believe I mean, you're you're talking about the missed extra

761
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: points where if you're watching on YouTube, it's the most

762
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: more mixed extra points today. Then there was all of

763
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: last season, including the first ever two point return, which

764
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: was in the Saints game. That was one of the

765
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: more exciting things I've seen. I've been waiting for that

766
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: all year. There was one last week that was called

767
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: back for penalty and it's here. It was history, goose bumps,

768
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: special history. Just put the Chiefs in the playoffs right now.

769
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: If you had to draw up the easiest schedule schedule

770
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: possible for a playoff hopeful. It's hard to do better

771
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: than Kansas Cities, which is home versus the Chargers at

772
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore and matt shob home to Cleveland and home to

773
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: the team you just beat today on the road, the

774
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Oakland rad that's probably and you probably only have to

775
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: win three of those to get in. Ten wins, there's

776
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: a good chance that'll that'll get you in. They'll be

777
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: heavily favorite, And now I would argue they've earned it too,

778
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: because this is not a fluke team. It took them

779
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: will to get the run game going today, but they

780
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of different pieces and parts. I still

781
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: look at Alex Smith as a guy that if you

782
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: get into a wild shootout, I'm not sure he's going

783
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: to get you out of that. But a couple of

784
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: years ago in the playoffs, he was twice in the playoffs,

785
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think he's not not somebody that's

786
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: an exciting quarterback, but this guy, he's playing very clean football.

787
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: If it gets to that, he's shown he's done that

788
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't mind having Alex Smith is

789
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: my quarterback. I mean, it sounded like like a hot take.

790
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: But when I was watching the last you know, the

791
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: four PM games, and the Patriots are struggling and the

792
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Panthers are going back and forth, and I was thinking,

793
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: are the Chiefs the best team playing right now? Are

794
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs? Are the Chiefs right now? I'm just saying

795
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: better than the Panthers. The Cardinals would beat him by

796
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: two touch if you're just talking about the six weeks

797
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: and that's all you've watched. They can't do anymore than

798
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: what they're doing, which is winning every game by two scores,

799
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: which is doing it in every complete way possible. They

800
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: have a good secondary, they're running the ball well, and

801
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: they're moving it on offense at will. So it's like

802
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: they can't do anything more than what they're doing. And

803
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I like teams that when you get into a hole

804
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: there one in five, they aren't afraid to change their

805
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: identity up a little bit and dig into what they are.

806
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: And that's the Chiefs. Their season could have if it

807
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: was not as well coached and the leadership weren't as

808
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: good in that locker room, that team could be one

809
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: in ten right now instead. That is a good coaching

810
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: job by by any coach to get out of that

811
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: kind of hole shows you're a good coach. But how

812
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: about the fact that no chief wide receiver is called

813
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown invest the season. I was waiting it was

814
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: car was overdue by the I mean, he played really

815
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: great last week, and one of the things that wrote

816
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: is that everything like he hasn't had one of one

817
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: of those games, that even just one of those games

818
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: this year out of out of twelve. And then now

819
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm real quickly. I mean, he missed the throw that

820
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: would have been a touchdown right before he threw an

821
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: awful in your set. That's what I was gonna say.

822
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: That he cost them points in a couple different ways.

823
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: But he also threw the one of the best passes

824
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: all season on a touchdown in the first half to

825
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: crab Tree where he's put it right between two defenders.

826
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's got this guy's gives them a

827
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: lot of hope. I don't care about what happened today, Alright,

828
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: moving forward, let's talk about the NFC playoff. Picture of guys,

829
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, they're freaking back. Russell Wilson was at his

830
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: very best, accounting for four touchdowns as the defending conference

831
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: champs outclassed. Yeah, you heard that they outclassed the host

832
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: Vikings thirty eight seven. The victory for Seattle. Greg. This

833
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: game tells us a Seahawks remain of force while also

834
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: serving as something of a nify call for the Vikings. Correct,

835
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean this is twice that they mcniffy

836
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: call every teams having the reveal today. Everyone gets it.

837
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I agree about the Vikings. This is twice they're getting

838
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: blown out in their own building. I don't need to

839
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: hear from Vikings fans that they cost two key defenders

840
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: early because those guys weren't playing on offen I mean,

841
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: no one got hurt on offense, and they didn't score

842
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: a point on offense and they only five yards the Seahawks. Meanwhile,

843
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: we're the story here, and I'm gonna start talking about

844
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: their young players. I mean, I think that's why it

845
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if we're covering them in the Super Bowl.

846
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: They'd have to win three road playoff games most likely

847
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: to get there. But they're young players are playing so

848
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: well right now. Uh, Tyler Lockett playing unbelievable now as

849
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: a receiver and a returner, had a big day. Frank

850
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: Clark is suddenly coming on, had a couple of sacks today. Uh,

851
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: you put Luke Wilson in at tight end. He makes

852
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: a couple of unbelievable plays early in the game. Even

853
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, you bench Kerry Williams, you put in de

854
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: Shan Shed He played really well cornerback. I think he

855
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: was probably the played well last week, at least compared

856
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: to the rest of the second dary too. So you

857
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: get all that going, you get an offensive line that's

858
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: now protecting Russell Wilson much better, and it's like this

859
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: team looks like a juggernauting And if you're John's Night,

860
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: are you just been praised for the past four seasons

861
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: for developing the first wave of talent that we have

862
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: known for so long, And some of them are moving

863
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: on to some degrees, most of them are in their prime.

864
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: And here comes the second wave. And I didn't I

865
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: didn't even mentioned Thomas Rawls. You know, the undrafted guy

866
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: who went over a hundred yards again, who's at the

867
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: end of that that collection of spicetrack on Thomas Rawls West.

868
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: I didn't hear from spice rack on Thomas Rawls. But

869
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Greg wrote today that the Seahawks have their three highest

870
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: yards There are yards totals of the year in the

871
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: last three games, and it's no coincidence that it's been

872
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls instead of Marshawn Lynch. Rawls has thoroughly outplayed

873
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: Lynch this year, that's true, and he's playing practically any

874
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: running back in the league right now, and they're's wonder

875
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: if Lynch is even gonna be around next year now

876
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: that we've seen what len I don't expect Lynch to

877
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: be on the team next year. And I think that's

878
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: a good problem to have to have to play Lynch

879
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: and Rawls down the stretch. And I think Rawls probably

880
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: has earned, you know, more carries at this point than

881
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: than Lynch. But if you have a one two punch

882
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: and you can get a lead, they're gonna be a

883
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: tough team to come from behind because I think that defense,

884
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: even though it's been a little up and down, I mean,

885
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the players are all there. There's no reason why they

886
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: can't be dominant like they were today. I mean, they

887
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: absolutely Bridgewater. They didn't let Adrian Peterson do anything. It's

888
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: not often you see an offense held to a yards

889
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: that's a no dominant performance. It was you kind of expected, well,

890
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to kind of ruin that stat by

891
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: putting up some yards in garbage time, but they just

892
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: like didn't let it happen. They just hept coming after

893
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. Can we talk about Cordurell Patterson's kickoff return celebration,

894
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: which was one of the greatest unintentional comedy moments of

895
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: the season. It was standing he they are down thirty

896
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: five to nothing, or is it that that's correct? He

897
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: takes a kickoff a couple of yards deep in his

898
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: own end zone, makes a nice move. He's giant and fast.

899
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: We've always known that. So he blows away the competition

900
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: and he gets around the forty yard line again, thirty

901
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: five nothing. He begins high stepping to the end zone.

902
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: As he crosses the goal line, he does some type

903
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: of like I don't quasi Heisman post, like the Dion

904
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: thing where you play. Then he jumps, runs through the

905
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, jumps into the crowd, gives

906
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: the football to a lucky fan. Hey guys, you always

907
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: remember this. Get made it thirty five to six, tears

908
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: off his helmet and then shouts in celebration to all

909
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: his teammates come back to us. Cordarole. I feel like

910
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I've seen this before on the old Leon commercials. I mean,

911
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: over under on how many times that's featured on an

912
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: NFL Noil segment, I'm going six. I I loved it.

913
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of fun. It was,

914
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing they could they could be

915
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: happy about all. I took coronorle Patterson and you know,

916
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: there was like four different parts of the celebration. There

917
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: were if you watch it too, there was like different

918
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: movements even while he's still in the field. It was amazing.

919
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: You know. I said, we can just put the Chiefs

920
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now. We can do the same

921
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: thing for the Seahawks. So the next three weeks are

922
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: at Baltimore and matshob home to the Browns, home to

923
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: the backsliding Rams, and close out the season against the Cardinals.

924
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Team almost certainly to be locked into the number two,

925
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: and they're they're only gonna need three of those games,

926
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: and I think they they can win in Arizona. If

927
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: they can win, they can get that five seed, and

928
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: that five seeds gonna be playing at the NFC East champion.

929
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: So that's gonna feel like a good game if you're

930
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, whether it's a rematch with whatever, whatever it was.

931
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson goes into FedEx Field for the second time

932
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: in four years and comes away with a playoffics and

933
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: and I know we want to move on, but very quickly.

934
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: No one's playing better at quarterback than Russell Wilson right now.

935
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: He's had three almost perfect games, and he was outstanding

936
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: today in the pocket, out of the pocket when he

937
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: had to scramble. I mean, he just made some of

938
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings defenders look bad. To me. What typified it

939
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: was he has a fifty three yard rushing touchdown at

940
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: one point, but it's called back by penalty. And then

941
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: the very next play he just throws a fifty three

942
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: yard touchdown the Dug Babbler And so that's just the

943
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: kind of role he's in right now. I could see

944
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson hang with all his bros from that SI

945
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: profile from a couple of years back, like watching Entourage

946
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: rinking Pepsi, you know, just pig and watching himself in

947
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: the Entourage movie. I want a party with Skinny dipping.

948
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Cardinals and their rookie running back

949
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: David Johnson looking good again. He went over a hundred

950
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage, and the Rams remained an offensive disaster.

951
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Arizona improved a tenant to with the three win. Chris

952
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: Wesley and the Cardinals didn't let an inferior opponent hang

953
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: around in this game. And the Rams are inferior. The

954
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: Rams are dysfunctional, at least on offense. They are, and

955
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals that were concerned, not in this studio but

956
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: in some other places that Chris Johnson was integral to

957
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: the offense and he'd be hard to replace. In fact,

958
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: David Johnson is an upgrade. He's more physical, he's a

959
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: better pass catcher, uh, and he was excellent and blitz

960
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: pick up, especially in the first quarter. We had three

961
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: highlight blue blitz pickups. Uh. They had a five twenty

962
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: four yards to day their season high, and rushed for

963
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: their second US yards of the season. They are getting

964
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: stronger and David Johnson is better than Chris Johnson. I

965
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: totally buy all that, and it makes sense watching them.

966
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: But why did Bruce arians disagree? Then? Like, why do

967
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: you think the answer? What do you think the answer?

968
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: I did Bruce Arians think Chris Johns Three reasons, Three reasons.

969
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: David Johnson had one error filled game early in the

970
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: season where he had a fumble and I believe a

971
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: drop and missed past protection. Carson Palmer loved Chris Johnson's

972
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: past protection and I think, and I think Arians is

973
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: a loyal person who thought Chris Johnson had earned a

974
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: longer rope. I mean, and it was up until about

975
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: three or four games ago where Chris Johnson was sensational,

976
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: But clearly in November we saw that change. And this

977
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: is where the Cardinals what they didn't have last year

978
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: was when they're running backs started to get injured and

979
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: they couldn't run the ball. There was no one. Young

980
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: Williams looked good today. Their offensive line is better than

981
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: last season. And we sat in the studio in the

982
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Seahawks game on a Sunday night a few weeks ago

983
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and said, Chris Johnson just not physical enough to break

984
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: tackles against good defense. Is David Johnson is physical enough.

985
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Fisher couldn't wait to get to the podium and announced

986
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: that case Keenom was going to start next week. It

987
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's like I don't know if they talk

988
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: about like class, you know, he's a classy guy, Like,

989
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: isn't that part of class? Like he couldn't wait to

990
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: bury your starting quarterback Nick Foles, who you traded for

991
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: and gave that money. I don't know. I'm not saying

992
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: Nick Foles deserves anything. Jeff Fisher class. He's not the

993
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: first coach I would think of the class or not.

994
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 1: If the competition committee, which Jeff Fisher is a major

995
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: member of it, if they have some type of like

996
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: dinner party like at the Combine next year, don't think

997
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: we're getting invited. I'm just gonna go out. But Fisher

998
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: also set after the game that he's run out of answers.

999
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: There were multiple people that tweeted that said he's run out.

1000
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Has he ever had an answer for his offense? Well? Maybe,

1001
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's quite a long time ago yet,

1002
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: but anything else, wes no, I think that about covers

1003
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: and Cardinals also have scored more points and allowed fewer

1004
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: points than the undefeated panther is. I think they're just

1005
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: as good. How big has that come back against the

1006
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: Seahawks And that's the only Seahawks loss in their last

1007
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: what seven games? Now? So the Seahawks, and the would

1008
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: be right on the Cardinals heels if not for that

1009
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: huge comeback Cardinals. I think I've won six in a row. There,

1010
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: rolling playing good football. Moving on, also playing good football,

1011
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Jamis Winston. You know, Winston

1012
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: continues to show the this is what I call greg

1013
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: the it factor. So they're cloathing out there factor a

1014
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: new thing by me. Moxy is fine too. The rookie

1015
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: quarterback had a key first down run on third and

1016
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: nineteen and followed that rush four plays later with a

1017
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: game deciding touchdown past the Mike Evans nineteen win for

1018
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks over the Falcons. Atlanta, which started the season

1019
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: five and oh and has lost five, has now lost

1020
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: five straight there six and six. The Bucks are a

1021
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: legit playoff contender at five hundred now, and I will

1022
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: hand it to first of all, we'll talk about Jameis

1023
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: Winston in the second here. I just want to say

1024
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: what the Falcons are pulling off is admirable and impressive.

1025
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: You could start five and oh and somehow beyond basically

1026
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: almost out of contention for the playoffs by the first

1027
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: week of December. That's hard to do. Congratulations chiefs. Can

1028
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you think of the last team that did something very similar? Oh,

1029
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: the Broncos under got it? You get the toast there?

1030
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: You mean after Josh McDaniels was after being the Patriots

1031
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: running around Denver's home field pumping his fists, And that's right,

1032
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: you know how? You know how I know that Jamis

1033
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Winston run was incredible because that that ends up setting

1034
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: up the touchdown. They would have kicked the field goal.

1035
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: It looked like he was down. It's what I like

1036
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: to call, uh, the Ortega meter. There's a man in

1037
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: our the Ortega meter, and then there's a Mark Ortega

1038
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: in our newsroom. And by the round of his exultation

1039
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: you can tell how good it plays. And it sounds

1040
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: like he gave labor to someone during that play. It

1041
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: was the most insane sound I've ever heard, like animals

1042
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: were being hurt. Well, it all Ortega's. Also, he goes

1043
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: through about six music shows a week. He might have

1044
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: just been really hungover, like throwing up in a garbage

1045
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Can you know it's possible that all these things are true?

1046
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, so, I mean it was funny. I was

1047
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: on the NFL Now Game Day Blitz program the white

1048
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: couch of shame or truth or something like that, and uh,

1049
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: I believe it was. I tell her that they they're

1050
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: kind of amazed by Bucky Brooks and and m j D.

1051
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: What kind of like an awkward athlete Jamis Winson is

1052
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: that he doesn't he's not fluid in his movements. I think,

1053
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: Ike Taylor, here's the run. If you're watching on YouTube,

1054
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: I teller referred to him as like an old Volvo. Uh,

1055
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't a Jaguar racing down the track.

1056
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: But he gets the job done. I mean, he's a

1057
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: really interesting guy, a fun guy to watch, and I

1058
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna win Offensive Rookie of the

1059
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Year this year. Marcus Mariota is putting on putting a

1060
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: lot of numbers up now, but Mark Cooper is having

1061
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: a big ear. There's some options tied girl if he

1062
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: could finish strong. But they got this right. And think

1063
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: about all the talk that went on in the off

1064
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: season about is this guy going to be the right pick.

1065
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: He is the right pick. He's saving jobs, instilling hope.

1066
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: What else can you want? I get think of a

1067
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: few teams that would take an old Volvo right now?

1068
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: And that's where he is. And please what he a

1069
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: lights out closer in college baseball? How do we not

1070
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: think he's a great athlete. That's a good point. I

1071
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: think he's not a great not that he wasn't a

1072
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: great athlete, but kind of an awkward doesn't have like

1073
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: the fluid movement people would say Ben Roethlisberger he was.

1074
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is a phenomenal. He was known for closing out

1075
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: games too, in terms of making big comes back backs

1076
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: in college. And you've seen that at the end of

1077
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: these games that he's confident he had he had that quote.

1078
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: I think I think we haven't talking about what he

1079
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: said to his team right before the game winning drive

1080
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: going to Houdel the long drive. Guys time, I said,

1081
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: who wants to touchdown? I smile, said who wants to touchdown?

1082
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: Might say me? Me, me? And I said, all right,

1083
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: you can get He's fun. I like it. I like

1084
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: James Wilson. You bring up a good point, Greg, because

1085
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: Albert Brier wrote in his note a couple of weeks ago,

1086
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: a good looking at the Bucks and how impressed and

1087
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: really surprised they are by his leadership this season two.

1088
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that back in May when

1089
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: we knew it all, we're gonna say, oh, he's gonna

1090
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: throw forty interceptions, the guy is gonna be a turnover machine.

1091
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Insteadies everything the opposite of what we thought he'd be.

1092
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: And he's completely surprising. I remember we were saying we

1093
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't he can't handle it. We don't him in the

1094
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: New York with the Jets good to handle the media nonsense.

1095
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: You know. I think you were joking about the it factor,

1096
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and the Geeks will tell us that there's no such thing.

1097
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: Everything I know about the history of football tells me

1098
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: there is a factor with quarterbacks, and I think he

1099
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: has it. And right now Matt Ryan's the opposite. I mean,

1100
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: he sets up the game when he touched on there's

1101
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: still time enough for Atlanta to go down and try

1102
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: to try to put some points on the board and win.

1103
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: And Ryan then throws his internets like which has become

1104
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: a weekly thing. He's not the reason they're losing, but

1105
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: he's also not the He's not it's got nothing, yeah that,

1106
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not all on him. And there's the other.

1107
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he deserves obviously blamed for really falling back

1108
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: this year, but he targeted Julio Jones seventeen times in

1109
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: this game because he has nobody else to throw to.

1110
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: Like when Roddy White had a catch in this game,

1111
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: it was almost like they had to stop the game.

1112
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, having yeah, having address to the

1113
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: crowd like Brett Farr. But I mean it's gotten to that.

1114
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: And the other thing about this offense. DeVonta Freeman, remember

1115
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: when he had eight touchdowns in four or five games

1116
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: back in September and October. He's come down to earth.

1117
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a one yard game or a rushing

1118
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: touchdown in five weeks. So when you take that element

1119
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: out of their offense and the fact that they don't

1120
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: have weapons and Matt Ryan is not playing at his best,

1121
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: it should is no surprise that their season has went

1122
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: down into this not the first time that Kyle Shanahan's

1123
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: offense is going off a cliff in uh, you know,

1124
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving post Thanksgiving. So you say no regrets about Kyle

1125
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: getting out getting out the door, I have so many

1126
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: regrets about the Cleveland Brownston. Let's not go back there,

1127
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: all right, Let's move on then. I'm sorry, Mark, It's fine, Okay.

1128
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins became the latest team to collect a

1129
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: pick six from Matt Shop to keep play in a

1130
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: fifteen to thirteen victory over the Ravens in Miami. Ryan

1131
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: Tannehill through for just eighty six yards in his first

1132
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: game without former offensive coordinator Bill Laser, but Miami did

1133
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: enough to keep their I'll say their faint play. If

1134
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: they're on the NFL dot Com grid like in the Hunt,

1135
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: I'll say faint. They put them back on there today.

1136
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: I noticed TV graphics because they won this game. They

1137
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: basically have to win out. They gotta win four in

1138
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: a row and hope multiple teams collapse. So that's not

1139
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: really but there's nothing. There's nothing with the Ravens though

1140
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: they are done. Uh, anybody have something to say about

1141
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: this game? This was not pretty football in Miami. Well,

1142
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: I was tasked with watching this, and I really don't

1143
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: think we should spend more than a minute one match

1144
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: up another pick six. This guy is unbelievable. It's unbelie

1145
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: He's unbelievably bad luck though, I mean, this wasn't totally

1146
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: He's an artist and he's painting with interception happening. This

1147
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: he's the greatest pick six artist of all time. You

1148
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: gotta respect it. I mean, it's his corner. It's not

1149
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: a corner that you would say is lovable or something

1150
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: you'd want to be remembered as Yet he says, this

1151
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: is mine. I'm owning it, you know. In a Christmas

1152
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: story where the narrator describes his dad as weaving a

1153
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: tapestry with cuss words, shop weaves a tapestry with pick sixes?

1154
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Yeah? But to do it right?

1155
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: I will say this. There's one hopeful thing for the Ravens.

1156
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Seconds left. Mark buck Allen did a nice job. Hundred

1157
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: and seventy combined yards today a big threat as a

1158
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: pass catcher out in the backfield. Listen, there's not a

1159
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: lot to like. Ppr leagues, twelve catches going there, but

1160
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: six seconds Vonte park Or too. Something for the Dolphins fans,

1161
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: a little touchdown two weeks frow there you go, and

1162
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: finally West in a Christmas story, what is the name

1163
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: of the father in Christmas story and the credits? I

1164
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: do not know? His name is the old man? M

1165
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: Moving on? Nice trivia, Dan, Thank you hey, whenever you

1166
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: can bang the mail and with some trivia, this is

1167
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: a great day. Dam got to tell you you couldn't

1168
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: get the Christmas storything I got. I gotta Jets win

1169
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: over the Giants. I got a Patriots loss. I got

1170
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: Milana vine chop our fantasy team clinching a bye. I

1171
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: got my League of Record fantasy team first place. I'm

1172
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 1: flying home tonight. I basically just took all the bad

1173
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: things that today. Let's get some Young Monday. We got

1174
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: some Young Monday, and we just spent more time on

1175
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: Dan's Fantasy league. In the minute on this game, Brandon,

1176
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: what's going on? We got some Young Monday back here.

1177
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: You don't know Young Monday. It would be fine if

1178
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: you don't. America hasn't get your Dan handsas, But you

1179
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: know that's the artist, Young Monday. Just give me this moment, guys, man,

1180
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: his best writer. You'll lead. Now, listen to the sounds

1181
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: from round the league. I heard from David Elier, editor

1182
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: whose friends with the Young Monday, that he was changing

1183
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: his name Tuesday. No, he ditched the the the singing career,

1184
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: I believe, and just dropped the Monica all together. I'll

1185
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: have to get involved with this because I think he

1186
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent. Moving on. Um is blame

1187
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Gabbert Good. Yes, the former draft bust at Torry Smith

1188
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: on a seventy one yard touchdown pass in overtime, the

1189
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: difference in the win over the Bears at Soldier Field,

1190
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Gabbertt helped force over time with a forty four yard

1191
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: touchdown run. What is happening here? So yes again? Um

1192
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: is blame Gabbert Good? Or do the Bears just suck West?

1193
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: You were saying the forty four yard run? What's happening here?

1194
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Next gen stats have been pretty informative. He entering this game,

1195
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: he had four of the five fastest speeds in the

1196
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: last month by a quarterback. He can move, baby, He's

1197
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: perfect for a rollout offense. I went to we were

1198
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: talking about next time, didn't Carson Palmer have the fastest

1199
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: run of the year or something? For a quarter He

1200
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: had a faster run than any of Adrian Peterson's runs

1201
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: last week College I think, by the way, tweeted out

1202
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: congrats to blame and the rest of the team keep roll,

1203
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: and like, how how much is he writing that through

1204
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: gritted teeth that he's not writing anything that Blaine Gabbert

1205
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: is looking so much better than Capri didn't even know

1206
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: the nine is played today. Also for for all the

1207
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: people in a conga line waiting to put Jake Cutler

1208
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and give him the MVP

1209
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Award this year because he's doing so great. Come on,

1210
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: like everybody just falling all over themselves to say, Jake

1211
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: Cutler is awesome. One touchdown in his last three games, Gabert,

1212
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: they will move the ball at all for three quarters either.

1213
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: But that contract is one of the biggest bargains in football.

1214
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: They have him under contract. I think for like one

1215
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: point five million next year that he is a good

1216
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: option to be a starter if he was gonna be

1217
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: a free agent. I'm not saying he would work out

1218
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: where ever he went, but he would get a good contract.

1219
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: And they're lucky to have him because they can now

1220
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: draft someone to pair with him. Four yards per attempt

1221
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: before overtime. Look who he's throwing to. I understand. I'm

1222
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: just saying they don't want to crown Jake Cutler. I'm

1223
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: not ready to do that with what is ridiculous. I

1224
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: know what Jake Cutler is, because we know who Blaine

1225
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Gabbert is. To Gabbard, is a good argument to not

1226
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: always judge quarterbacks after three years on a terrible football team.

1227
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: But at the same time, let's just continue to wait

1228
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: and see and not draw a final conclusion at this point. Right, No,

1229
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: he's going to can Gabbert. Okay, they're gonna actually rename

1230
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: it Gabbert Gabbert. Ohio. That's where that doesn't sound good.

1231
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: That would be controversial. Moving on, the Marcus Mariota put

1232
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: the Titans ahead for good with an eighty seven yard

1233
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: touchdown run, finally seeing those legs midway through a crazy

1234
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the defining play in a wild nine

1235
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mariota threw two touchdown passes

1236
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: to go with a hundred and twelve yards on the ground.

1237
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: How dueling Blake Boardles, who fired five touchdown passes himself.

1238
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: This game probably means squat gentlemen from a playoff standpoint,

1239
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: but these quarterbacks at least make these teams interesting, Greg,

1240
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: And that's where something the kids are all right. I mean,

1241
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: look at Winston, Mariota, Boardles, all the young guys, car Like,

1242
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: all these guys, all their teams have to be really

1243
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: happy with what they're where they're at. I mean, I

1244
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: wish this was the game on Thursday Night Football. There

1245
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: were seven touchdowns in the fourth quarter of this game.

1246
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: There were six touchdowns in the first eight minutes of

1247
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: the first fourth quarter of this game. It's incredible that

1248
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Jaguars are so bad when Bordles is on pace for

1249
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns and yards, Allen Robinson's on pace for

1250
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: four fifty yards and fourteen touchdowns and Mariota one of

1251
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: the best rookie games we've seen. Well, it's the I

1252
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: mean the defense, the Jaguars defense. But but this way,

1253
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers scored three points at home, then they scored

1254
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: thirty three points in Jacksonville. Then they returned home and

1255
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: they scored three points. That's what the Jaguars defense is

1256
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: right now. Who's that on? Gus Bradley. Sure, but you

1257
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: can't make a call, Well, you can't make a coaching

1258
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: change when you're young quarterbacks on pace for three I

1259
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: don't somebody say Young Monday bring him out of retirement?

1260
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: Can complay? I would like his text? I wonder who

1261
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: Monday is? Young Monday Brandon behind the Glass. Young Monday

1262
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: is the performer. He's a emerging hip hop artist in

1263
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: southern California who wrote and performed the hit single get You.

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Speaker 1: Dan hanss Okay, that's a pretty good song. Actually, this

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Speaker 1: episode has to be the record for game reviews Deep

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Speaker 1: six by listen to the songs listen to. They said,

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Speaker 1: I had heard this and around the lag time NFL

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Speaker 1: drinking game where you you drink every time, Dan goes

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Speaker 1: third person because I think you're up to like four

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Speaker 1: sobriety from some fatalities. I would think anybody else of

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Speaker 1: anything else in this game. Uh, if not, let's move

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Speaker 1: to Sunday Night football. We've had some nice prime time

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Speaker 1: games this year. This was not one of them. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers and Cults. The Steelers really outclassed the Cults, led

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Speaker 1: by Matt Hasselbeck, a forty five to ten win for Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: a game in which Ben Roethlisberger, who looks as good

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Speaker 1: as ever right now, through for four touchdowns three sixty

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Speaker 1: four no interceptions. D'Angelo Williams went over a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty total yards, Mark Thomas Bryant and Antonio Brown each

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Speaker 1: one over a hundred yards with touchdowns. Uh, this was

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Speaker 1: a one sided affair, Greg Rosenthal, between a team the

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Speaker 1: cults that listen, they're they're limited without Andrew Luck, they're

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: not a great team, and the Steelers are a real

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Speaker 1: favorite in the C. I stupidly thought this could be

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Speaker 1: one of the games of the week. I was interested

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Speaker 1: in watching it. In the first quarter and a half,

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Speaker 1: the Colts are leading, and we talked about it before

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Speaker 1: we started. It felt like a team that was playing

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Speaker 1: its best just to stay in the game for a

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Speaker 1: quarter and a half and then just an avalanche of

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Speaker 1: Big Bend just dropped all over him. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we just talked about the Chiefs, the Bills, the Jets,

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Speaker 1: all two teams that have postseason hopes, But it's Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: for me. If you have Big Ben and he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: the way this offense is playing, I don't care what

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Speaker 1: seed they are. I don't care how many playoff games

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Speaker 1: they have to deal with. They could go the entire way.

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Speaker 1: In the a f C. Dan used the word outclass,

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Speaker 1: which is perfect because it's one thing for Matt Hasselbeck

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Speaker 1: to play the game manager rule and beat four bad teams.

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Speaker 1: But you come up against the Steelers team. This is

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Speaker 1: what they've done offensively over the past month. Five seven yards,

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Speaker 1: four hundred fifty nine yards, five hundred thirty eight yards,

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Speaker 1: five two yards. The one game they didn't hit five

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Speaker 1: hundred yards was the game that Landry Jones started and

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Speaker 1: Big Ben's came into relief. This is the best month

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Speaker 1: long stretch of offense than any team they had all year. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I think with the Steelers, that's like what you

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Speaker 1: were saying, Mark. When I look at it from the

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Speaker 1: perspective of a Jets team at seven and five, I

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Speaker 1: see the Steelers of the team. They're gonna take one

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Speaker 1: of those wild cards. They're too talented. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that we just put the Steelers and Chiefs in the playoffs. See.

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Speaker 1: I won't go that far with Casey, but the Steelers

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Speaker 1: barring another Big Ben injury, which let's be honest, we

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01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: can't rule out. The guy gets hurt now from time

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: to time and could miss time. But I think they

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Speaker 1: are so much better than most of the a f C.

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Speaker 1: And they show it on a weekly basis basis. And

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Speaker 1: they have to play the two top seeds in the

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Speaker 1: next two weeks, the Bengals and Broncos, so they might

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Speaker 1: be better than those teams. Maybe they'll win both of

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Speaker 1: those games. Maybe they both those kids that they didn't

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Speaker 1: split at least but let's say let's give him a split.

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Speaker 1: But that opens the door and it makes it more

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Speaker 1: interesting for teams like the Jets maybe aren't as good,

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Speaker 1: but it opens the door form But let's have to

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Speaker 1: win two right in the Bills and the Jets are

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Speaker 1: about to be in any team when their skin. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the games at Pittsburgh one when there was

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Speaker 1: no big Ben and Levy on Bell has been out

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Speaker 1: for a big chunk of the year. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is one of the most resilient teams in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: They're consistent week to week. You get them in there.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who they play with. They could deal

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Speaker 1: with New England, they could take them down on a

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Speaker 1: good day. And and their performance last week having the

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Speaker 1: lead and then blowing it against Seattle in Seattle, it

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Speaker 1: looks a little different even today when you see how

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Speaker 1: well Seattle is playing. Are two of the best teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL going to toe to toe in Seattle

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Speaker 1: last week? What I think today did was put away

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Speaker 1: any hope that the a f C South is going

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Speaker 1: to get a wild card team. That's over with the

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Speaker 1: Texans with a bad road loss. But you were the

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Speaker 1: only person in America. They literally were in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: if if it ends, Yeah, but nobody believed that was

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Speaker 1: the hold true for five weeks, No, no one did.

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Speaker 1: You're right? Um? Any other thoughts about this game, gentleman,

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Speaker 1: I think we covered it. I think the Colts defense

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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten any better this year, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to stop the Steelers offense

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01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: at this point except for a very good defense, and

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Speaker 1: the colt just aren't that. They haven't shown any progress

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Speaker 1: really throughout the season. When's that Andrew Lack coming back

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Speaker 1: week not half spec left this game with an injury.

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Speaker 1: Never good When Charlie Whitehurst, as much as we love

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Speaker 1: clipboard jesus here around the NFL podcast, when he's in

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Speaker 1: the game and only signals bad things. Uh? Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, Mark, did you happen to see uh,

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Speaker 1: Bob Costas is jaunty scar? Yeah? I saw a tweet

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Speaker 1: from a Colleen Wolf who noticed that it wasn't just

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Speaker 1: a scarf but a turtleneck. Slighted that is a power

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Speaker 1: combination for Costas. You call that a power turtle neck.

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Speaker 1: Never those two words have never been put back to

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Speaker 1: back before we made history on the Round the NFL

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Speaker 1: podcasts now, Mark, thank you for doing that for us.

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Speaker 1: A night between that and all your favorite players running

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Speaker 1: around for Pittsburgh, Big Ben James Harrison had a big night.

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Speaker 1: He's angels. Love that guy. I cannot wait to get

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Speaker 1: out of the studio. Well, we're gonna let you out

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Speaker 1: of the studio right now, Mark, rest up, buddy. We

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Speaker 1: will be back. Just no, we're gonna be back on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday with Colin. Gonna work on Monday. Can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get back in the studio for that. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: you have to come into work tomorrow. Also pump out

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Speaker 1: high octane posts. Maybe a couple of the Browns. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see all right, I'm not promised. I want to

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Speaker 1: sunny this position with it too. Happy Mark, alright, So

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Speaker 1: we'll be back on Tuesday. Colleen Wolf will sit in

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Speaker 1: on the show again. We love having Connie Fox with us,

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Speaker 1: so she'll be back. So make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching on YouTube, Thanks for listening along.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to leave some comments and and leave us

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Speaker 1: high star ratings on iTunes, check us out on stitcher,

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01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: whatever that is. Just validate our experience. Until then, This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing off for Quiet Storm. The Mailman,

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01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: Chris Westley, the Boss, Brandon be on the glass thusday.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get a Nick Bent to friend