WEBVTT - DJ Enuff | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.080 What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:02.560 right here. 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.840 Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.880 the Black Effect Network and partnership with my guys over 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:18.799 at Drink Champs. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.880 Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.800 Yours truly Memphis Bleak, back with another exclusive episode Rock 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.520 Solid Podcast with a legendary motherfucking figure in this hip 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.920 hop music business. When it comes down to New York radio, 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.760 you cannot mention High ninety seven without this guy sitting 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.920 right here. Man, A's welcome my brother DJ enough to 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.280 the mom. Man, what's uping? 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:47.680 How you doing? 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:47.919 Yo? 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.519 I got a phone call, Nigga said, Now I even 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.440 get a phone call. I saw the Instagram. Bro, they 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.080 like Bleak said, he'll fuck with you, cash on, try 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.840 to start some beef. You see that the way he 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.480 lined it up, He's like, Yo, fuck with you. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.080 He put it in the chat and then I heard 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.160 it and I was like, what are you talking about? 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.160 And then I heard it and I was like, nah, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.480 he's bugging. I'm like, Yo, Bleak, you're bugging. There's no 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.400 way I was in the studio with you co signing 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.840 the record. Damn near producing the record with the record 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:22.720 with No. One hundred thousand do that. And I heard 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.200 you said, you know he was like proof and be 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.560 high and all them guys my day ones blah blah 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.280 blah blah blah. I remember all of that. It was 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.520 me and Google came late night. But what I don't 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.720 understand is what are you mad about? You didn't played 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.760 the record, not ever played the record. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.840 You gave it probably five spins. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.480 No, no way, man. You know why I remember cutting 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.400 the ship out that record because it goes get him. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:51.120 But I ain't get that. Yay love Yo yay was hot. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.680 So to me, I wasn't you Yeah, damn just say yo, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.120 you was kind of whack. No, I wasn't ever say that. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.480 But for me, you gotta understand something. I'm gonna keep 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.960 it into perspective, so you get it. I used to 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.720 have the heavy hit his record pool on thirty eighth 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.919 Street and my man with name of Clean's office, right, okay, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:11.679 So they used to be a young rapper out of 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.000 Chicago named Kanye West who used to knock on my 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:20.360 door every night. I remember was heavy something. But I'm bugging, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.400 I'm like, yoo, who is this dude? And he was like, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:24.920 I want to be a heavy hitter, and I'm like, yo, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.480 I'm not yo. This is this is I got a 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.000 DJ collective. Man, I'm not trying to manage no artists. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.320 We're not trying to put no artists out. I played 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.040 myself because I could have should. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:34.639 Have wored out. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.440 But what I didn't realize that what's the studio on 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.400 thirty eighth Street the one we had, yeah, Baseline, No, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.920 it wasn't Baseline, a different one where he recorded his album, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.960 was it right track? No, there's the studio on thirty eighth, 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.520 like and tenth or eleventh or whatever. It was literally 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.680 down the block from the office. So all this time, 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.680 that all this time that I know to time, got 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.400 a room in there or something or whatever it was. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:04.120 I don't know what. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.880 It's a legacy, remember that legacy legacy. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:10.640 Remember, so. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.720 He was recording that legacy. But I never knew about legacy. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.160 So I thought he was crazy. I said, this, dude's 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.639 always coming to Manhattan to meet me, because I think 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.600 he was staying in Jersey at the time before his 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:27.800 mom passed away. He was producing and I remember literally 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.160 like him just begging to be down with my collective, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.160 And I'm like, why he goes because you got so 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.760 much power you could just in the in the turn 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.360 of a night make me a superstar. I need you, bro, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.400 you know so remember I had heavy hit this in Chicago. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.760 J Farius Timbuctoo, guy that was all. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.760 Over the world got dj oh No Wing fucking. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.720 Many everywhere pulled. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:55.440 Up my guys. 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.920 Man, that's right, just like you got the nation I 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.480 got going. That's the same thing. Is powerful as big, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.960 and you know that's that's how sol it was. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.280 I respect, I was just fucking around, wasn't it. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.840 Now? You know I don't take none of this music 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.400 shit serious because even to get played one time or 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.000 Hot ninety seven, it was more than another flag, you 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.320 know what I'm saying because growing up listening to the 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.080 legends y'all playing, you know, knowing read alert all the 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:21.920 history that comes from New York City. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.599 So to even be in. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.240 That party, invited in there getting a few spins, I 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.360 appreciate it when you have it. Yeah, it had me 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.080 fucked up. I'm gonna tell you what when you said 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.560 what you said, because I'm thinking now I'm talking to 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.800 cast and it was like, yo, is this true? And 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.960 I'm thinking, what if it was true? Did I forget 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.960 to show my man love number one? Did the beef 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.880 Jay and Flex had fuck up something? Or was it 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.839 that's or was it remember when Jay's ninety nine problems 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.920 when he said, if you don't play my show, don't 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.000 give a shit. I told y'all, So I don't know 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.040 if that had ain't gonna do with anything. Well, I remember, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.600 was that what year you dropped that record? Two thousand 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.880 and that was three or four five, So I was 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.120 already I was already at five o'clock at that time, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.840 So I remember only I guess talking to Swiss because 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.479 Swiss used to always talk to me like, yo, you 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.240 killed it today, But me, I don't know if I 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.120 ever had your number back then, not like that. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.000 Yeah, we kicked it here and there when you get 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.680 in touch with each other. The rest of smissed the 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.040 sea was my brage to all the DJs in New. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.520 York City was Guy. So I'm thinking in my head 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.320 like did I fuck up on bleak? I'm really thinking, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.360 and I was like, those are the only reasons why? 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.839 And then we started thinking like, you know, wait a minute, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.320 was this Vinyl days or was this Sorado because I'm like, so, then, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.599 how you gave me the record? Do you remember? He 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.400 don't even remember? 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:58.200 No, Remember we had it was Bobby Dash first, remember everything, 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.760 and then Donna and everybody are running to the radio. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.640 When we got to the when Jay became president of 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.360 Death Jam, there was no I don't even know who 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.320 the radio person was. Remember, that was a whole new system. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.680 So my goal was we in the studio making this 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.839 record together, Swiss, gonna get this record like we get 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.200 it to every DJ. He going to be down there, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.159 like I said, produce the record, Swiss, ow some pub 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:22.520 on that. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:27.120 Let's talk about that. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:28.680 Yeah. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.760 So I just felt like and I ain't gonna hold you, bro. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.680 I always felt like in New York City again, I 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.920 didn't get showed to love I deserved. And it was 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.200 always because I was too close to the fire. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.680 Maybe because whatever whole didn't do they took out on me. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.680 It could have been, but I wasn't in charge of that. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.239 Of course I was never That's not factor. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.360 Yeah, it comes from the top down, you know what 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.520 I'm saying. It's not like it's you like, Yo, we're 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:58.840 gonna take bleep records out now? 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.920 If he ain't come to your party. And on the 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.560 heavy of this podcast, I told my guys your story. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.599 I said, yo, I said, Blee could say what he 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.960 wants about that, but I'm gonna tell you he's a 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.240 short shot dude. It's what you mean. I said. I 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.560 remember trying to catch a cab. I was going to 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.080 the label. You pulled up on me on West fourth 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.560 Street and sixth Avenue. I remember where you're going. I'm 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.760 going to the label. It was like, I'll give you 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.040 a ride, but the car is dirty. Oh yeah, you 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.920 told me the. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.239 Car was super dirty. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.880 So I said, nah, man, you go ahead, bleak, I'll 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.880 catch the next ride. So it was at that moment 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.320 I was like, I got the ultimate respect for this dude, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.320 because you think of how many dudes in the hood 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:47.480 get jammed up. Not even my car is dirty. My 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.239 car is this. And then you go to a stop 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.760 check or someone pulls you over and everybody going, and 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.600 everybody goes to the system. Because I'm a firm belief 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.920 you got car man, let me know, real one, let 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.240 me know or you. So I just got to say that, No, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.280 I appreciate that, my Godnike, but let's go back because 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.480 I got a legend here, so I want to know history. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.000 Gem take us back that when you first started DJing 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.720 the party scene. What was that like? All right, so 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.000 there were these guys from Brooklyn called the Love Brothers. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.160 I tell the story. I'm too young for that. I 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.160 told the story all the time. Right. They have the 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.600 del Gatto's podcast, now that's them. Oh okay, anyway, So 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.839 my interesting thing, I don't want to talk too much 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.400 about it because I got a book I'm coming out with, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.199 but I'll tell you some important things. Like I did 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.240 the Sunday night party in the city. It was called 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.319 the Grill. It was an African spot. It was a 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.839 cross street from the California Club. It was on forty 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.800 sixth Street or forty third Street and in Times Square. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:57.080 It was a big deal. Right now, imagine they hire 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.960 me every week to do this party. Right, first week, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.959 nobody's there, Lee, I'm like, come on, man, three hundred bucks. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.400 They're trying to pay me to do this part. I'm 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.760 like three hundred bucks in there. I was telling my people, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.040 I do that ship for free because I love the 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.320 music so much. Right, I was in love with the music. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.640 Right second week go by, nobody's there. The hottest party 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.720 in the city at the time was the Red Zone 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:23.439 on a Thursday night. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.640 You just named like four clubs I never heard of. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.880 You never heard the Red Zone. No man, oh man, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.200 you was outside yet he was on the bench of Marshy. Yeah. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.560 I was still trust the bridge. I ain't crust the 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:34.160 bridge yet. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.920 So anyway, on this Thursday night party, you had the 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:42.120 likes of like Kick Capri Clark Kent, DJ Pete Rock. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.280 They were the DJ legends. You God Dag, the DJs, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.400 a guy named but Naked Tim Dogg who used to 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.480 roll with the Chill. But that. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.880 Was wicked. But that was left that last part up. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.680 You know what they're going to say, all right, but 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.440 I'm just tell you that was his name. Yo, it 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.640 comes from Google him man comes up butt Naked Tim 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.200 Dag Yo Chill. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.520 And then we had the rapper Tim dog Oh man, it. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.240 Was problems problem man. So I mean that was my vibe. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.960 And then at that party, the host of my party 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.640 was a guy named Toughy. Toughy was one of the 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:26.680 hosts of Video Music Box. Okay, right, Ralph mcdamn Bronx. Right, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.040 So we decided, I said, I came up with this 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.160 marketing plan. I said, you know what, if nobody coming 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.640 to the party, let's at least get some bodies in 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.920 the party. Because if you're a club owner and you 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.440 open up to some promoters and it's not working. But 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.560 if I got three four hundred heads in there and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.120 they're at least buying something at the ball, you're gonna 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.560 be good at that. Maybe we're not doing good at 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.920 the door, but we're doing good at the ball, right. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.160 So I printed up like three four or five hundred 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:56.360 VIP free tickets and that Thursday night party at the 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.240 Red Zone I'm telling you about, there was a New 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:03.600 Jack City party the movie. This is when I thought 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:09.640 I was Christopher Williams. No list me mad, Yeah, I understand. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.280 I'm a light skinned dude that had I had the 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.280 curly hair, came in there like with a suit. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.960 And back in the days, that's how you had to 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.560 step out, had to get dressed up. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.079 I was doing parties with heavy d and a lot 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.120 of these dudre heroes and those dudes. We had to dress. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:31.560 You had to be like suits, sari ties and shoes. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.560 More reason ship can play. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.560 It wasn't until later that everybody wanted to dress like 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.040 Russell Simmons and come with jeans and a white dan. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.160 Russell Simmons fucked the game up. Just connected right there. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.640 There's the reason why everybody's because they wanted to be 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.680 downtown swingers. And that's what it was. He give it 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.000 some game, right now. I didn't know that you give 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.360 it some game with that one right now, I'm talking 0:11:58.360 --> 0:11:59.920 too much, bleak. No, I didn't know. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.640 Russell simm has changed the gag. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.160 Yo. You remember the time when jay Z started wearing 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.400 uh button ups. Yes, he changed the whole entire industry. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.560 It's the same thing, man, Guys empower the the ones 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.400 who make all the decisions. At that time, my Susan King, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.320 whatever he wore, people wore. So whether it was up 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.040 or shelter, Adidas, some jeans and a white tea, that's 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.920 how you went to the parties. And he was picking 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.400 up models just like that. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:36.440 Some like a rich fuck that suit, that suit. I'm good. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.720 I'm good as legendary man. So do you remember the 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.400 first time you felt like, damn my name ringing out 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.720 here in New York man? Like the night life, the streets. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.760 All right, there's a few times, but one of the 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:57.600 most dynamic times was I was with Angie Martinez. Shout 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.640 to my sister Angie Martinez, Right, we will on the 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.680 Hot ninety seven float during the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Right. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.480 So every year, you know, Angie does that, right, and 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.720 she's you know, she got on the mic. She'd be like, yeah, 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:16.080 and you hit a cloud. So she said my name 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.920 one time, right, and it was like whatever, and then 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.040 she said it again the next year, and it was 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.440 like it got a little bit better. But like the 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:29.560 third year she said my name, it was like and 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:34.120 she looked at me, she goes, here, that's right, I'm here, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.280 you're hearing that, that's right. So I was like that 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.600 was my cod sign, like you know what I mean, 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.839 I know that feeling and you know, crazy. And then 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.040 when j became the president of death jam my mother 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.480 being in forty forty and Jay came to me on 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.160 the side and he pulled me to the side, and 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.520 this is when I felt like I was one of 0:13:54.559 --> 0:14:01.920 his soldiers. Beat this, beat this, because you know, I 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.280 didn't know any other presidents to any of labors except 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.120 Kevin Lyles. He's the only one I do coolest presidents too. 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.800 So JA was like you know, I'm about to be 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.199 the president of Death Jam. Right. So he was like, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.400 I was, so you, yo, bro, I'm from Brooklyn. You 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.800 get the I need you from Hove. It's amazing, Like 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:29.560 I'm here, what's up? Yeah? Man, you gotta understand something 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.920 like we're like cousins. And the reason why I'll tell 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:38.040 you we're like cousins peat this. When I was on 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.120 the road with Big I would hear the stories of 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.360 the commission of what he was trying to make with Iceberg, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:51.080 Slim with Charlie Baltimore and then whoever. Right. So one 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:57.480 of the magic nights was we performed at BAM downtown Brooklyn. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.880 Right now, I know that spot. Now I'm outside. I 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.960 DJ for Big IRV God he was DJ for J 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.000 And it was like side by side and it was 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.960 like and then Jay dropped or can I live? And 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.280 then we dropped. The was beef and a bunch of records. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.560 But it's like those magical moments where you just look 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.160 at each other, like and I remember a big light 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.240 being with his crew and then they would see you. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.120 You know you guys. It was always it was always 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.520 it's always this like, but it was it was respect. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.480 It was like, and then another story. You want me 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:36.720 to go. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.920 Back, go back, go back. I love this ship. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:45.640 At the Montrose Hotel. Remember that hotel, the Montrose. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:49.560 Yeah, you kidding me. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.880 So now peep this, y'all. So peep this. One of 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:57.120 the finest moments in my eyes. I'm in the lobby 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.120 of the hotel, were checking in. It's me and Money 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.600 l D Rock. I don't know. I don't know if 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.000 the Rock was there. If it was d Rock, then 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.560 it was gutt It wasn't there because there was a 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.920 time where someone them was in prison and that kind 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:14.400 of thing. And I see Rock him walking into the hotel, right, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.680 and then BIG's on this side and they both walking 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.240 this way. So I'm looking at like, oh, ship, one 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.360 of the greatest rappers of all time is right here. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.600 And then the newly crowned king is is is coming 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.600 this So in my mind I'm like, Yo, this is 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.040 going this is crazy. It's a movie. In my mind, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.560 I'm looking like whatever. And then they just crossed paths 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.640 and Big was just like and then Rob was like, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.920 that's it. That's the saying ship, that's crazy. I thought 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.440 it would I thought it would be better than that. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.240 word up some type of acknowledge. Man, Goddamn Big the 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.000 greatest bro. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.560 We ain't gonna just go you DJ for Big you 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.640 and miss the c like y'all came up with me. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.840 I'm gonna correct you because on your podcast, I didn't 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.200 DJ for Junior Mafia, my man Jiff Jeff Pause DJ 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.719 for Junior Mafia and then sighther sometimes DJ FORR Mafia. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.680 I DD for Big to see found Big for a 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.680 big either, because I want you to get it all 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:20.360 in context. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.359 You know, I mean, I know the I know the line. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.600 I know you was DJ because I remember the Connecticut 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.800 Show when they came with Big hurt his leg after 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.840 his birthday party. You was definitely DJing that Connecticut show, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.040 that nigga. They willed him out on that motherfucker stage 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:38.000 in that wheelchair pandemonium moneyggas shut ship down in the 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.440 wheelchairir like, so I remember those days. And like you said, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.439 a lot of people don't even remember IRV Gotti was 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:45.119 j DJ. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.360 They think IRV Gotti just started out, you know, murder ingland. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.640 You don't know, everybody got a beginning in this his 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.399 in this in this hip hop here man, and I 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.960 respect that man like y'all niggas paved the way for us, 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.359 like you saying Jay with his crew and you was 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.720 were big in them, Nah, bro, I was the little 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.800 kid just sitting there like this. I can't wait till 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.560 I get my shot. This is how nigga's rolling, This 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.880 is how we go. And it's like when I got 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.800 my shot, the gang was still sweet, but it wasn't 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.639 like when y'all had it like when y'all had the 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.640 gang member groupies. Was happy to be a groupie. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.120 And my time, they was like, I'm not no groupye 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.840 like you right, girl? 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:26.240 You not? 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.680 But y'all ever they like I'm grouped the fly. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:31.520 All I know is this man. I was on the 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.640 road with these little four feet guys called Junior Mafia 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.399 and they were Yo. These guys were terrorists behind Yo. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.080 They had females everywhere. There was groupies out the wazoo. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:43.600 We had a good time, though. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.399 I used to ENVYCS man. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.320 I used to be like this little motherfucker snigger got 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:49.040 all the joints. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.320 I wait till I drop a record, Nigga. I'm weird's 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:52.200 on yo, man. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.520 When I think about it, she was like fourteen years 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.560 old when it's all happened. I'm like, yo, y'all, it's 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.000 crazy that niggas Yo, even Big Bro. You think about it, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.439 rest of Pees, Big and Park was kids, Bro. They 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.840 had in the twenty twenties. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.000 Bro, they didn't they see life at all twenty something. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:09.320 We were babies, Bro. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.359 So listen all right before the stream and these playlists 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.720 and everything that the rap games turned to. Yes, sir, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.960 back then in New York, the DJs, y'all controlled everything 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.000 that was moving musically in the game. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.200 What you feel like made that era so special? 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.679 Well, first, first of all, you know what I enjoyed 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.359 about that era. All our superstars were in the back, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.200 in our backyard, meaning I didn't have to go to Atlanta, 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.880 I didn't have to go to La. They were literally 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.800 across the bridge in Brooklyn, or they were across the 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.720 bridge and Queens or through the tunnel whatever. They were 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.680 local at all, they were. They were local as a fact. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.000 Ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, it was Wu Tang, 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.960 Big j Nas, Mob Deep you know all that fact. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.560 Joe Yeah, Ship the locks was on to come up. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.639 That boy was on their run like shit, nigga. 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.240 That was the best ever ever I saw how I 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.760 saw how you said when you're talking to Cipher. It 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.639 was like, that's why bad Boy ran the game, because 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:23.040 enough his big DJ, little kidj DJ for I was like, 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:24.440 that's not the reason why. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.600 I believe they had the hits. But they had the 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.560 inside plug. 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:30.840 Too, I'm sure to a certain degree. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.240 Yeah, but yeah, yeah, his favoritism. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.040 Man, Like, if I'm a DJ and I'm playing the 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.040 records of a nigga that we're not to get off 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.480 this radio, I'm on the road with him. 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.480 Come on, le's play these red We're gonna keep this 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.639 nigga on the road. I need these checks. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.760 Maybe you were fuck They talk about X two more 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.400 spins before commercial. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.600 Come on, facts are no facts. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.000