Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, you already know what it is.
Speaker 2: Yours truly Memphis Bleak, back with another exclusive episode Rock
Speaker 2: Solid Podcast with a legendary motherfucking figure in this hip
Speaker 2: hop music business. When it comes down to New York radio,
Speaker 2: you cannot mention High ninety seven without this guy sitting
Speaker 2: right here. Man, A's welcome my brother DJ enough to
Speaker 2: the mom. Man, what's uping?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 2: I got a phone call, Nigga said, Now I even
Speaker 2: get a phone call. I saw the Instagram. Bro, they
Speaker 2: like Bleak said, he'll fuck with you, cash on, try
Speaker 2: to start some beef. You see that the way he
Speaker 2: lined it up, He's like, Yo, fuck with you.
Speaker 3: He put it in the chat and then I heard
Speaker 3: it and I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And then I heard it and I was like, nah,
Speaker 3: he's bugging. I'm like, Yo, Bleak, you're bugging. There's no
Speaker 3: way I was in the studio with you co signing
Speaker 3: the record. Damn near producing the record with the record
Speaker 3: with No. One hundred thousand do that. And I heard
Speaker 3: you said, you know he was like proof and be
Speaker 3: high and all them guys my day ones blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I remember all of that. It was
Speaker 3: me and Google came late night. But what I don't
Speaker 3: understand is what are you mad about? You didn't played
Speaker 3: the record, not ever played the record.
Speaker 1: You gave it probably five spins.
Speaker 3: No, no way, man. You know why I remember cutting
Speaker 3: the ship out that record because it goes get him.
Speaker 3: But I ain't get that. Yay love Yo yay was hot.
Speaker 3: So to me, I wasn't you Yeah, damn just say yo,
Speaker 3: you was kind of whack. No, I wasn't ever say that.
Speaker 3: But for me, you gotta understand something. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: it into perspective, so you get it. I used to
Speaker 3: have the heavy hit his record pool on thirty eighth
Speaker 3: Street and my man with name of Clean's office, right, okay,
Speaker 3: So they used to be a young rapper out of
Speaker 3: Chicago named Kanye West who used to knock on my
Speaker 3: door every night. I remember was heavy something. But I'm bugging,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yoo, who is this dude? And he was like,
Speaker 3: I want to be a heavy hitter, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: I'm not yo. This is this is I got a
Speaker 3: DJ collective. Man, I'm not trying to manage no artists.
Speaker 3: We're not trying to put no artists out. I played
Speaker 3: myself because I could have should.
Speaker 1: Have wored out.
Speaker 3: But what I didn't realize that what's the studio on
Speaker 3: thirty eighth Street the one we had, yeah, Baseline, No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't Baseline, a different one where he recorded his album,
Speaker 3: was it right track? No, there's the studio on thirty eighth,
Speaker 3: like and tenth or eleventh or whatever. It was literally
Speaker 3: down the block from the office. So all this time,
Speaker 3: that all this time that I know to time, got
Speaker 3: a room in there or something or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: It's a legacy, remember that legacy legacy.
Speaker 1: Remember, so.
Speaker 3: He was recording that legacy. But I never knew about legacy.
Speaker 3: So I thought he was crazy. I said, this, dude's
Speaker 3: always coming to Manhattan to meet me, because I think
Speaker 3: he was staying in Jersey at the time before his
Speaker 3: mom passed away. He was producing and I remember literally
Speaker 3: like him just begging to be down with my collective,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, why he goes because you got so
Speaker 3: much power you could just in the in the turn
Speaker 3: of a night make me a superstar. I need you, bro,
Speaker 3: you know so remember I had heavy hit this in Chicago.
Speaker 3: J Farius Timbuctoo, guy that was all.
Speaker 1: Over the world got dj oh No Wing fucking.
Speaker 3: Many everywhere pulled.
Speaker 1: Up my guys.
Speaker 3: Man, that's right, just like you got the nation I
Speaker 3: got going. That's the same thing. Is powerful as big,
Speaker 3: and you know that's that's how sol it was.
Speaker 1: I respect, I was just fucking around, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Now? You know I don't take none of this music
Speaker 2: shit serious because even to get played one time or
Speaker 2: Hot ninety seven, it was more than another flag, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying because growing up listening to the
Speaker 2: legends y'all playing, you know, knowing read alert all the
Speaker 2: history that comes from New York City.
Speaker 1: So to even be in.
Speaker 3: That party, invited in there getting a few spins, I
Speaker 3: appreciate it when you have it. Yeah, it had me
Speaker 3: fucked up. I'm gonna tell you what when you said
Speaker 3: what you said, because I'm thinking now I'm talking to
Speaker 3: cast and it was like, yo, is this true? And
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, what if it was true? Did I forget
Speaker 3: to show my man love number one? Did the beef
Speaker 3: Jay and Flex had fuck up something? Or was it
Speaker 3: that's or was it remember when Jay's ninety nine problems
Speaker 3: when he said, if you don't play my show, don't
Speaker 3: give a shit. I told y'all, So I don't know
Speaker 3: if that had ain't gonna do with anything. Well, I remember,
Speaker 3: was that what year you dropped that record? Two thousand
Speaker 3: and that was three or four five, So I was
Speaker 3: already I was already at five o'clock at that time,
Speaker 3: So I remember only I guess talking to Swiss because
Speaker 3: Swiss used to always talk to me like, yo, you
Speaker 3: killed it today, But me, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: ever had your number back then, not like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kicked it here and there when you get
Speaker 2: in touch with each other. The rest of smissed the
Speaker 2: sea was my brage to all the DJs in New.
Speaker 3: York City was Guy. So I'm thinking in my head
Speaker 3: like did I fuck up on bleak? I'm really thinking,
Speaker 3: and I was like, those are the only reasons why?
Speaker 3: And then we started thinking like, you know, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: was this Vinyl days or was this Sorado because I'm like, so, then,
Speaker 3: how you gave me the record? Do you remember? He
Speaker 3: don't even remember?
Speaker 2: No, Remember we had it was Bobby Dash first, remember everything,
Speaker 2: and then Donna and everybody are running to the radio.
Speaker 2: When we got to the when Jay became president of
Speaker 2: Death Jam, there was no I don't even know who
Speaker 2: the radio person was. Remember, that was a whole new system.
Speaker 2: So my goal was we in the studio making this
Speaker 2: record together, Swiss, gonna get this record like we get
Speaker 2: it to every DJ. He going to be down there,
Speaker 2: like I said, produce the record, Swiss, ow some pub
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just felt like and I ain't gonna hold you, bro.
Speaker 2: I always felt like in New York City again, I
Speaker 2: didn't get showed to love I deserved. And it was
Speaker 2: always because I was too close to the fire.
Speaker 3: Maybe because whatever whole didn't do they took out on me.
Speaker 3: It could have been, but I wasn't in charge of that.
Speaker 3: Of course I was never That's not factor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes from the top down, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's not like it's you like, Yo, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take bleep records out now?
Speaker 3: If he ain't come to your party. And on the
Speaker 3: heavy of this podcast, I told my guys your story.
Speaker 3: I said, yo, I said, Blee could say what he
Speaker 3: wants about that, but I'm gonna tell you he's a
Speaker 3: short shot dude. It's what you mean. I said. I
Speaker 3: remember trying to catch a cab. I was going to
Speaker 3: the label. You pulled up on me on West fourth
Speaker 3: Street and sixth Avenue. I remember where you're going. I'm
Speaker 3: going to the label. It was like, I'll give you
Speaker 3: a ride, but the car is dirty. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 3: told me the.
Speaker 1: Car was super dirty.
Speaker 3: So I said, nah, man, you go ahead, bleak, I'll
Speaker 3: catch the next ride. So it was at that moment
Speaker 3: I was like, I got the ultimate respect for this dude,
Speaker 3: because you think of how many dudes in the hood
Speaker 3: get jammed up. Not even my car is dirty. My
Speaker 3: car is this. And then you go to a stop
Speaker 3: check or someone pulls you over and everybody going, and
Speaker 3: everybody goes to the system. Because I'm a firm belief
Speaker 3: you got car man, let me know, real one, let
Speaker 3: me know or you. So I just got to say that, No,
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, my Godnike, but let's go back because
Speaker 3: I got a legend here, so I want to know history.
Speaker 3: Gem take us back that when you first started DJing
Speaker 3: the party scene. What was that like? All right, so
Speaker 3: there were these guys from Brooklyn called the Love Brothers.
Speaker 3: I tell the story. I'm too young for that. I
Speaker 3: told the story all the time. Right. They have the
Speaker 3: del Gatto's podcast, now that's them. Oh okay, anyway, So
Speaker 3: my interesting thing, I don't want to talk too much
Speaker 3: about it because I got a book I'm coming out with,
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you some important things. Like I did
Speaker 3: the Sunday night party in the city. It was called
Speaker 3: the Grill. It was an African spot. It was a
Speaker 3: cross street from the California Club. It was on forty
Speaker 3: sixth Street or forty third Street and in Times Square.
Speaker 3: It was a big deal. Right now, imagine they hire
Speaker 3: me every week to do this party. Right, first week,
Speaker 3: nobody's there, Lee, I'm like, come on, man, three hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: They're trying to pay me to do this part. I'm
Speaker 3: like three hundred bucks in there. I was telling my people,
Speaker 3: I do that ship for free because I love the
Speaker 3: music so much. Right, I was in love with the music.
Speaker 3: Right second week go by, nobody's there. The hottest party
Speaker 3: in the city at the time was the Red Zone
Speaker 3: on a Thursday night.
Speaker 1: You just named like four clubs I never heard of.
Speaker 3: You never heard the Red Zone. No man, oh man,
Speaker 3: you was outside yet he was on the bench of Marshy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was still trust the bridge. I ain't crust the
Speaker 1: bridge yet.
Speaker 3: So anyway, on this Thursday night party, you had the
Speaker 3: likes of like Kick Capri Clark Kent, DJ Pete Rock.
Speaker 3: They were the DJ legends. You God Dag, the DJs,
Speaker 3: a guy named but Naked Tim Dogg who used to
Speaker 3: roll with the Chill. But that.
Speaker 1: Was wicked. But that was left that last part up.
Speaker 3: You know what they're going to say, all right, but
Speaker 3: I'm just tell you that was his name. Yo, it
Speaker 3: comes from Google him man comes up butt Naked Tim
Speaker 3: Dag Yo Chill.
Speaker 1: And then we had the rapper Tim dog Oh man, it.
Speaker 3: Was problems problem man. So I mean that was my vibe.
Speaker 3: And then at that party, the host of my party
Speaker 3: was a guy named Toughy. Toughy was one of the
Speaker 3: hosts of Video Music Box. Okay, right, Ralph mcdamn Bronx. Right,
Speaker 3: So we decided, I said, I came up with this
Speaker 3: marketing plan. I said, you know what, if nobody coming
Speaker 3: to the party, let's at least get some bodies in
Speaker 3: the party. Because if you're a club owner and you
Speaker 3: open up to some promoters and it's not working. But
Speaker 3: if I got three four hundred heads in there and
Speaker 3: they're at least buying something at the ball, you're gonna
Speaker 3: be good at that. Maybe we're not doing good at
Speaker 3: the door, but we're doing good at the ball, right.
Speaker 3: So I printed up like three four or five hundred
Speaker 3: VIP free tickets and that Thursday night party at the
Speaker 3: Red Zone I'm telling you about, there was a New
Speaker 3: Jack City party the movie. This is when I thought
Speaker 3: I was Christopher Williams. No list me mad, Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3: I'm a light skinned dude that had I had the
Speaker 3: curly hair, came in there like with a suit.
Speaker 1: And back in the days, that's how you had to
Speaker 1: step out, had to get dressed up.
Speaker 3: I was doing parties with heavy d and a lot
Speaker 3: of these dudre heroes and those dudes. We had to dress.
Speaker 3: You had to be like suits, sari ties and shoes.
Speaker 1: More reason ship can play.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until later that everybody wanted to dress like
Speaker 3: Russell Simmons and come with jeans and a white dan.
Speaker 2: Russell Simmons fucked the game up. Just connected right there.
Speaker 3: There's the reason why everybody's because they wanted to be
Speaker 3: downtown swingers. And that's what it was. He give it
Speaker 3: some game, right now. I didn't know that you give
Speaker 3: it some game with that one right now, I'm talking
Speaker 3: too much, bleak. No, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Russell simm has changed the gag.
Speaker 3: Yo. You remember the time when jay Z started wearing
Speaker 3: uh button ups. Yes, he changed the whole entire industry.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing, man, Guys empower the the ones
Speaker 3: who make all the decisions. At that time, my Susan King,
Speaker 3: whatever he wore, people wore. So whether it was up
Speaker 3: or shelter, Adidas, some jeans and a white tea, that's
Speaker 3: how you went to the parties. And he was picking
Speaker 3: up models just like that.
Speaker 1: Some like a rich fuck that suit, that suit. I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good as legendary man. So do you remember the
Speaker 2: first time you felt like, damn my name ringing out
Speaker 2: here in New York man? Like the night life, the streets.
Speaker 3: All right, there's a few times, but one of the
Speaker 3: most dynamic times was I was with Angie Martinez. Shout
Speaker 3: to my sister Angie Martinez, Right, we will on the
Speaker 3: Hot ninety seven float during the Puerto Rican Day Parade. Right.
Speaker 3: So every year, you know, Angie does that, right, and
Speaker 3: she's you know, she got on the mic. She'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: and you hit a cloud. So she said my name
Speaker 3: one time, right, and it was like whatever, and then
Speaker 3: she said it again the next year, and it was
Speaker 3: like it got a little bit better. But like the
Speaker 3: third year she said my name, it was like and
Speaker 3: she looked at me, she goes, here, that's right, I'm here,
Speaker 3: you're hearing that, that's right. So I was like that
Speaker 3: was my cod sign, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I know that feeling and you know, crazy. And then
Speaker 3: when j became the president of death jam my mother
Speaker 3: being in forty forty and Jay came to me on
Speaker 3: the side and he pulled me to the side, and
Speaker 3: this is when I felt like I was one of
Speaker 3: his soldiers. Beat this, beat this, because you know, I
Speaker 3: didn't know any other presidents to any of labors except
Speaker 3: Kevin Lyles. He's the only one I do coolest presidents too.
Speaker 3: So JA was like you know, I'm about to be
Speaker 3: the president of Death Jam. Right. So he was like,
Speaker 3: I was, so you, yo, bro, I'm from Brooklyn. You
Speaker 3: get the I need you from Hove. It's amazing, Like
Speaker 3: I'm here, what's up? Yeah? Man, you gotta understand something
Speaker 3: like we're like cousins. And the reason why I'll tell
Speaker 3: you we're like cousins peat this. When I was on
Speaker 3: the road with Big I would hear the stories of
Speaker 3: the commission of what he was trying to make with Iceberg,
Speaker 3: Slim with Charlie Baltimore and then whoever. Right. So one
Speaker 3: of the magic nights was we performed at BAM downtown Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Right now, I know that spot. Now I'm outside. I
Speaker 3: DJ for Big IRV God he was DJ for J
Speaker 3: And it was like side by side and it was
Speaker 3: like and then Jay dropped or can I live? And
Speaker 3: then we dropped. The was beef and a bunch of records.
Speaker 3: But it's like those magical moments where you just look
Speaker 3: at each other, like and I remember a big light
Speaker 3: being with his crew and then they would see you.
Speaker 3: You know you guys. It was always it was always
Speaker 3: it's always this like, but it was it was respect.
Speaker 3: It was like, and then another story. You want me
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: Back, go back, go back. I love this ship.
Speaker 3: At the Montrose Hotel. Remember that hotel, the Montrose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kidding me.
Speaker 3: So now peep this, y'all. So peep this. One of
Speaker 3: the finest moments in my eyes. I'm in the lobby
Speaker 3: of the hotel, were checking in. It's me and Money
Speaker 3: l D Rock. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 3: the Rock was there. If it was d Rock, then
Speaker 3: it was gutt It wasn't there because there was a
Speaker 3: time where someone them was in prison and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. And I see Rock him walking into the hotel, right,
Speaker 3: and then BIG's on this side and they both walking
Speaker 3: this way. So I'm looking at like, oh, ship, one
Speaker 3: of the greatest rappers of all time is right here.
Speaker 3: And then the newly crowned king is is is coming
Speaker 3: this So in my mind I'm like, Yo, this is
Speaker 3: going this is crazy. It's a movie. In my mind,
Speaker 3: I'm looking like whatever. And then they just crossed paths
Speaker 3: and Big was just like and then Rob was like,
Speaker 3: that's it. That's the saying ship, that's crazy. I thought
Speaker 3: it would I thought it would be better than that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: word up some type of acknowledge. Man, Goddamn Big the
Speaker 3: greatest bro.
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna just go you DJ for Big you
Speaker 2: and miss the c like y'all came up with me.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna correct you because on your podcast, I didn't
Speaker 3: DJ for Junior Mafia, my man Jiff Jeff Pause DJ
Speaker 3: for Junior Mafia and then sighther sometimes DJ FORR Mafia.
Speaker 3: I DD for Big to see found Big for a
Speaker 3: big either, because I want you to get it all
Speaker 3: in context.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I know the I know the line.
Speaker 2: I know you was DJ because I remember the Connecticut
Speaker 2: Show when they came with Big hurt his leg after
Speaker 2: his birthday party. You was definitely DJing that Connecticut show,
Speaker 2: that nigga. They willed him out on that motherfucker stage
Speaker 2: in that wheelchair pandemonium moneyggas shut ship down in the
Speaker 2: wheelchairir like, so I remember those days. And like you said,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't even remember IRV Gotti was
Speaker 2: j DJ.
Speaker 1: They think IRV Gotti just started out, you know, murder ingland.
Speaker 3: You don't know, everybody got a beginning in this his
Speaker 3: in this in this hip hop here man, and I
Speaker 3: respect that man like y'all niggas paved the way for us,
Speaker 3: like you saying Jay with his crew and you was
Speaker 3: were big in them, Nah, bro, I was the little
Speaker 3: kid just sitting there like this. I can't wait till
Speaker 3: I get my shot. This is how nigga's rolling, This
Speaker 3: is how we go. And it's like when I got
Speaker 3: my shot, the gang was still sweet, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: like when y'all had it like when y'all had the
Speaker 3: gang member groupies. Was happy to be a groupie.
Speaker 1: And my time, they was like, I'm not no groupye
Speaker 1: like you right, girl?
Speaker 3: You not?
Speaker 1: But y'all ever they like I'm grouped the fly.
Speaker 3: All I know is this man. I was on the
Speaker 3: road with these little four feet guys called Junior Mafia
Speaker 3: and they were Yo. These guys were terrorists behind Yo.
Speaker 3: They had females everywhere. There was groupies out the wazoo.
Speaker 3: We had a good time, though.
Speaker 1: I used to ENVYCS man.
Speaker 2: I used to be like this little motherfucker snigger got
Speaker 2: all the joints.
Speaker 1: I wait till I drop a record, Nigga. I'm weird's
Speaker 1: on yo, man.
Speaker 3: When I think about it, she was like fourteen years
Speaker 3: old when it's all happened. I'm like, yo, y'all, it's
Speaker 3: crazy that niggas Yo, even Big Bro. You think about it,
Speaker 3: rest of Pees, Big and Park was kids, Bro. They
Speaker 3: had in the twenty twenties.
Speaker 1: Bro, they didn't they see life at all twenty something.
Speaker 1: We were babies, Bro.
Speaker 2: So listen all right before the stream and these playlists
Speaker 2: and everything that the rap games turned to. Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: back then in New York, the DJs, y'all controlled everything
Speaker 2: that was moving musically in the game.
Speaker 1: What you feel like made that era so special?
Speaker 3: Well, first, first of all, you know what I enjoyed
Speaker 3: about that era. All our superstars were in the back,
Speaker 3: in our backyard, meaning I didn't have to go to Atlanta,
Speaker 3: I didn't have to go to La. They were literally
Speaker 3: across the bridge in Brooklyn, or they were across the
Speaker 3: bridge and Queens or through the tunnel whatever. They were
Speaker 3: local at all, they were. They were local as a fact.
Speaker 3: Ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, it was Wu Tang,
Speaker 3: Big j Nas, Mob Deep you know all that fact.
Speaker 2: Joe Yeah, Ship the locks was on to come up.
Speaker 2: That boy was on their run like shit, nigga.
Speaker 3: That was the best ever ever I saw how I
Speaker 3: saw how you said when you're talking to Cipher. It
Speaker 3: was like, that's why bad Boy ran the game, because
Speaker 3: enough his big DJ, little kidj DJ for I was like,
Speaker 3: that's not the reason why.
Speaker 2: I believe they had the hits. But they had the
Speaker 2: inside plug.
Speaker 3: Too, I'm sure to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, his favoritism.
Speaker 2: Man, Like, if I'm a DJ and I'm playing the
Speaker 2: records of a nigga that we're not to get off
Speaker 2: this radio, I'm on the road with him.
Speaker 1: Come on, le's play these red We're gonna keep this
Speaker 1: nigga on the road. I need these checks.
Speaker 2: Maybe you were fuck They talk about X two more
Speaker 2: spins before commercial.
Speaker 1: Come on, facts are no facts.
Speaker 3: You could be right, Joe. You see, you could be
Speaker 3: right like that. You've been interrogated before, y'all. You could
Speaker 3: be right.
Speaker 1: Two things could be right and wrong at the same time. Yo.
Speaker 2: You became known for breaking major records. You broke a
Speaker 2: lot of records in New York City, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Having strong relationships with all the artists across
Speaker 2: different genres of music, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean?
Speaker 2: What was it like building that trust with the artists
Speaker 2: over the years, that they knew to gain my record,
Speaker 2: really to the masses, I'm going to eat well.
Speaker 3: I mean it was always a fight because you had
Speaker 3: to fight with either. You know, Flex wanted records, then
Speaker 3: Clue wanted records, then kse Slave wanted records. Right, you know,
Speaker 3: you gotta think about all the superstars I'm naming. These
Speaker 3: are big DJs in their own right. Then you know, like, yo,
Speaker 3: we'll talk. I'm gonna talk about k Slave for a second.
Speaker 3: Out of all the DJs in the country, you know,
Speaker 3: he's one of the ones that fought for you guys.
Speaker 3: When I say fought, because you know, after a while,
Speaker 3: us DJ's got playlisted. If it first started with four records, right,
Speaker 3: the program director will come to me like enough, do
Speaker 3: your thing, but you got to play these four records
Speaker 3: in the hour, right, And then I'd be like, all right,
Speaker 3: that's not a problem. And then it went to eight
Speaker 3: records and I'm like, damn. And then it went from
Speaker 3: eight records to ten records, and then twelve and before
Speaker 3: you know it, what am I breaking? You just just
Speaker 3: tell me to play whatever you want me to play.
Speaker 3: And then that's when it started not getting fun no more.
Speaker 3: That's great because and for rating purposes, you might Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll give you a perfect example, Like you might think
Speaker 3: you hot, right because you're hearing your record on the
Speaker 3: radio and you buzzing whatever whatever. But then you put
Speaker 3: a concert together and nobody buys your ticket, nobody know
Speaker 3: the record. Oh, they don't know who you are as
Speaker 3: the artist. So then you get mad because what either
Speaker 3: the who didn't support you, to the radio station, the DJ,
Speaker 3: or maybe your record wasn't just good that's right, you know,
Speaker 3: So that happens. There's been times where records really buzz
Speaker 3: and they blow up, but it still don't connect with
Speaker 3: the audience, right, Like I'm talking about to the point
Speaker 3: where they want to go in their pocket and put
Speaker 3: out their credit card or their cash and say, all right,
Speaker 3: he goes fifty dollars, let me get a couple of tickets,
Speaker 3: that's right. Like that's the error you're talking about when
Speaker 3: you ask to do the calling where you would send
Speaker 3: the record out and people called me like do they
Speaker 3: identify that record or not?
Speaker 2: They're like nope, I'm cool, that's it. That's crazy, like thin.
Speaker 2: These kids don't even have to deal with that today.
Speaker 3: And that's the part that when you're a person coming
Speaker 3: up in radio, it hurt because you'd be like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: enough flex Angie Martinez. They're all playing off shit, but
Speaker 3: it's not working. It's the music, not my fault. It's
Speaker 3: the music. But we try. That's a fact. You know.
Speaker 3: His ability is everything at that point, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 2: And outside of radio to me, like when I was
Speaker 2: coming up, finally crossed the bridge getting into the music business,
Speaker 2: like y'all party scenes. Gee, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: Even to this day, I don't care. Camelo could put
Speaker 2: his name on a fucking rodeo. They showing up And
Speaker 2: it started from you. You created that wave and then
Speaker 2: trickled down to the family, the whole team.
Speaker 1: Like your party.
Speaker 2: I set the destination for New York where I feel
Speaker 2: like people flew in just to come to your parties.
Speaker 3: Being that big of a coach again. Shout to my
Speaker 3: sister Andie Martinez, who we had our birthday parties. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, we shut the city down, crazy bro. It
Speaker 3: was like Hoove got a rested at me and Aggie's
Speaker 3: birthday party. I'm just said, you wanted to be my
Speaker 3: birthday party. Fat Joe was trying to kill fifty yoh
Speaker 3: lots smokey yo, listen you want yeah those facts.
Speaker 1: That's right. A lot of these guys is cool now.
Speaker 3: I know the l o X, the D block dudes
Speaker 3: are trying to kill DJ who kid in the booth.
Speaker 1: This is all at your party, my party at the
Speaker 1: same night.
Speaker 3: Act cast one, he's heid chill cast one in my line, Damn.
Speaker 1: Cast set is facts, it's facts, it's real talk.
Speaker 3: Damn. So why Jay get locked up? Who he was
Speaker 3: trying to kill? I don't know who he's trying to kill.
Speaker 3: I think they probably checked this car. He might might
Speaker 3: have found he had the blinking I think had the blick.
Speaker 2: Told y'all project baby and start fucking around. Find out
Speaker 2: you fuck around, you find out what happens.
Speaker 3: Man, I get it. And we had some of the
Speaker 3: best birthday party And man, that eerror was ill. Man,
Speaker 3: you had the city going crazy by g Any party
Speaker 3: you ever broke me to was out the door so real,
Speaker 3: bro like crazy, my g It was always like back
Speaker 3: then to me, like walking into Hot ninety seven during
Speaker 3: this peak years man, Like I told you that's that's
Speaker 3: a historic. Just saying hot ninety seven just made everything us,
Speaker 3: you know, what I'm saying, going up there, stepping into
Speaker 3: the center of hip hop, it felt like damn I
Speaker 3: made it. Like I don't think it was no other
Speaker 3: radio station, no disrespect in any station that I walked
Speaker 3: in that showed love. But your son about being from
Speaker 3: New York and being invited to Hot just made everything
Speaker 3: matter to you, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 3: just want to know what was the environment like for
Speaker 3: y'all from the inside a Hot I mean, it was
Speaker 3: always competitive, but you know, like I mean, we had
Speaker 3: ed Lover, we had Miss Jones, we had starn Buck Wild,
Speaker 3: we had Angie Martinez, we had Sonny Anderson. Shout out, Sonny,
Speaker 3: that's my girl, a big chef word, cooking up shit,
Speaker 3: battling everybody. Now, I'm so proud of her, you know.
Speaker 3: So the vibe was always good. I remember, you know,
Speaker 3: like as much as DJ's the power wasn't really behind
Speaker 3: the turntables, you know that right, The power was behind this.
Speaker 3: But sometimes we didn't want the headaches when it came
Speaker 3: with this, so we just wanted to do our jobs
Speaker 3: and play the good music. Yeah, so it depends like
Speaker 3: how much you wanted. But the power is this this
Speaker 3: right here, this right here. That's a fact that micase Man.
Speaker 3: You see Angie mob Voice in New York.
Speaker 2: Everybody you wanted to get your point across or get
Speaker 2: a message out, you had to go to Angie. If
Speaker 2: you were anywhere else, we didn't hear it. It was
Speaker 2: like what you said? Like what exactly? Like that's crazy, man,
Speaker 2: like that era. I missed that era of New York.
Speaker 3: Like my best radio moment was watching her and Hove
Speaker 3: on the radio all the time. They were like to
Speaker 3: Snoop and Dre of the radio right and Hope was
Speaker 3: getting mad because she can't happen to stop for commercial breaks.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're gonna pay the commerce.
Speaker 3: They he pull out the black card and told the
Speaker 3: the people at the station how much it costs for
Speaker 3: me to just talk.
Speaker 1: That's right, no more commercial I remember.
Speaker 3: That, d D yo. They just wiped all the commercials,
Speaker 3: got rid of everything. And then angim like, yo hour,
Speaker 3: who does that? Straight up? Nobody does that. I remember
Speaker 3: that history of me ever being on radio. Only him.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I don't want no more commer.
Speaker 2: We just go talk straight through. They can't see all
Speaker 2: the commercials. That's ill. I ain't ever think about that.
Speaker 2: No other artists did that, man, never they could do
Speaker 2: that on XM. They don't pay no ain't no real
Speaker 2: no reil commercials.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, they were based on prescriptions.
Speaker 3: That's why that's right, man, Like fucking the music industry
Speaker 3: unchanged dramatically streaming digital. Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: What was the hardest adjustment you think for you to
Speaker 2: make the transition to the new world?
Speaker 3: For me, it was this. When I first became a DJ,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to play records and I was finally
Speaker 3: good at it. I was like, Yo, I could mix
Speaker 3: these records, I could blend them, I could talk on
Speaker 3: top of them, I could cut, I could scratch. So
Speaker 3: I was through the overalls are pretty good DJ. And
Speaker 3: then I realized, you know what, I don't got no
Speaker 3: real mic game, so I had to learn the mic game.
Speaker 3: And then when the social media things started switching, it
Speaker 3: became this. So now I'm djaying and you gotta film
Speaker 3: yourself DJ, and I'm like, yo, I can't do this, yo.
Speaker 3: So I couldn't do it. But like I used to
Speaker 3: watch Camillo and Cast, they good at it. They'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be here uptown tonight and I'm over be
Speaker 3: here like, nah, man, I need my hands to keep
Speaker 3: riding that thing. But they were good at it. They'd
Speaker 3: be like, Yo, uptown tonight, we're doing this bl blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Men please popping in. You know that that's a fact.
Speaker 3: You're right. They be live like this, we live right now.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, Yo, insane. I'm like, yo, am I doing
Speaker 3: my job on the radio, on my my am, I
Speaker 3: on TikTok, And I was like almost like you have
Speaker 3: to do both, yes, at the same time at TikTok.
Speaker 2: I'm still not on TikTok because I don't know it.
Speaker 2: It's confusing. And I know that's when you know when
Speaker 2: you're old, when something like that, you'll be like, yo,
Speaker 2: it's confusing. You give it to your son and be like,
Speaker 2: show me how this ship work. But if you wanted
Speaker 2: to use it, you would figure it out. It's no
Speaker 2: real need for me to use it right now, So
Speaker 2: I'm good. Like what you think the disconnect, I would
Speaker 2: say from the younger generation now getting into the game,
Speaker 2: for the appreciation of the DJ, the lost respect of
Speaker 2: the art.
Speaker 3: I think I mean first and foremost, I think we
Speaker 3: have to re educate. Sometimes you have to reintroduce things
Speaker 3: twice in three times so people get it. Like, my
Speaker 3: son's a big time producer. I say that, right, But
Speaker 3: you know what, he understands what I'm doing behind the
Speaker 3: turntables because he's seen it. He grew up, he grew
Speaker 3: up with it, so he appreciated it. Yeah, but a
Speaker 3: lot of his friends don't get it, like, Yo, why's
Speaker 3: your dad cutting the record like that? Why's your dad
Speaker 3: slamming the record like that? Why's your dad doing this
Speaker 3: to the record. Because the kids, they live on their phones,
Speaker 3: so everything is Apple Music, Spotify, TikTok. They're getting fifteen seconds,
Speaker 3: thirty seconds of something. It's short, it's sweet, it's to
Speaker 3: the point, that's right. You know, when I first was
Speaker 3: playing my uncle's records, those records were fifteen minutes long,
Speaker 3: those old Disco and South records. They were long as
Speaker 3: a fact. They were long as half records, and it
Speaker 3: would last a whole entire year, Like if something dropped
Speaker 3: in January of twenty of nineteen seventy five, it would
Speaker 3: last to the same year nineteen seventy six. That's how
Speaker 3: it was bro a whole year. We'll go by crazy
Speaker 3: now record one week you might get what day you
Speaker 3: might get a day. Don't let iceman drop cook.
Speaker 1: We all cooked, Yo.
Speaker 2: But your son been like, I know that's a I
Speaker 2: know that's a proud pop up moment. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean To raise a young a young one first
Speaker 2: of all, keep him out the street is not It's
Speaker 2: not an easy task in itself, raising a man in
Speaker 2: this generation in need in this city of him. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean for him to be doing what
Speaker 2: he doing? You know what I mean, producing all them hits,
Speaker 2: got ice spices out there on top of the world,
Speaker 2: like she just took a lag carpet from him and
Speaker 2: made it a female carpet. I love to see it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: When I found out it, it's like, Yo, you know
Speaker 2: that's enough son, that doing all the production. I'm like
Speaker 2: you lying like word, I'm like, yeah, that's fire.
Speaker 3: You got me. He made me go back in the lab, Yo,
Speaker 3: do it again, back to making beats again. Yep, no way,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you some beats please. Man, Let's go,
Speaker 3: manic let's go.
Speaker 2: Man, Like, how differently you think your approach to DJ
Speaker 2: and now breaking music would be today compared to how
Speaker 2: it was back then, What would your advice be to
Speaker 2: a new like a young DJ he wanted to be like,
Speaker 2: I wanna break records.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, he gotta do it because he loves it.
Speaker 3: And then maybe he has somebody who was kind of
Speaker 3: like ahead of the curve, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like to me, my son is ahead of the curve. Now,
Speaker 3: that's right, So I can always go to him and
Speaker 3: be like, Yo, who's who's moving on next? And be like, Yo,
Speaker 3: it's this guy, this influencer, that guy, this dude, you know,
Speaker 3: because he's going with the Ice Speeds and the Kai
Speaker 3: Setts and those people.
Speaker 2: They got millions and millions of followers. Yo, listen, you
Speaker 2: know we all don't know our shit. That he really
Speaker 2: plugged it. He called them consanette. We've been calling them consanat,
Speaker 2: so you know we don't know our shit. We plugged
Speaker 2: out the system. That's when you know you plugged in.
Speaker 3: You say shit, right, we be in the street, Yo,
Speaker 3: you got that Gavinci't be like no, I wear a Jivaanci.
Speaker 1: That's how you just did that, just flexed on us
Speaker 1: like damn.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's what's up though, man, shout out all the
Speaker 2: young streamers, young producers, young DJs, because they keeping it alive.
Speaker 3: Man. You know what you gotta do too for some
Speaker 3: of the old g's out there, or some of us
Speaker 3: call us old heads. Whatever, Yeah, I'm getting the got
Speaker 3: You gotta still respect the youngins man. Of course. Do
Speaker 3: you know what it felt like when you was fifteen
Speaker 3: years old listened to rap for the first time, That's right,
Speaker 3: and the old heads be like, what the hell you
Speaker 3: doing listening to that garbage?
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 3: Remember that, that's right.
Speaker 1: That's why I said they hated on my error. So
Speaker 1: I would never hate on the young niggas ever.
Speaker 3: Get all if you show respect to them, of course,
Speaker 3: a little bit more respect to you, of course.
Speaker 1: I never I never.
Speaker 2: Shoot on the young niggas now, the ones I can't
Speaker 2: understand where it feels like they just it's just the beat.
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't funk with but real young spinners. Nah,
Speaker 2: I respect it, bro.
Speaker 1: I love. I love how these kids is coming up.
Speaker 1: Think about it.
Speaker 3: All real out there, it's still all it just gonna fo.
Speaker 1: You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: They got the kid j I d JED. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm like, come on, bro, you're one of
Speaker 2: my favorite dudes. Then you got the other nigga from
Speaker 2: from Kendrick Crew, what's his name? He just dropped the
Speaker 2: Blue Fake Blue Notes album, Baby King, Like, Yo, broers
Speaker 2: be stupid with.
Speaker 1: Like this ship is like I'm saying, all these guys.
Speaker 1: I just had Benny up here.
Speaker 2: I was just telling him it's like they manufacturing artists
Speaker 2: over there. An That's what I'm saying. The spinners is
Speaker 2: out here, bro. People just got to tap into the
Speaker 2: market if they want it. Like so, like, when it's
Speaker 2: all said and done, you've been through a lot. You
Speaker 2: know the history Hot ninety seven, all the drama. You know,
Speaker 2: people know what went down with Hot ninety seven. We
Speaker 2: don't got to get into that. It's platforms where they
Speaker 2: could go when everything is set and done. What you
Speaker 2: want them to say about your contribution to the coach?
Speaker 3: I mean that was fair. And then I was honest,
Speaker 3: and I was you know, I was truthful to myself
Speaker 3: bigger than anything else. And I was talking to my
Speaker 3: man Mook on the way here, right and he was like,
Speaker 3: because the thing you said that got me up here
Speaker 3: was like, yo, DG enough, what'd you say, that's my heart.
Speaker 3: I said, I love him, that's my brother. I said,
Speaker 3: ready enough radio, enough fucking with him. So so Ka said, Yo,
Speaker 3: but you're the same person. You're the same there's no
Speaker 3: there's no in between like the DJ no f from
Speaker 3: the radio and d G No the person. You guys
Speaker 3: are still the same person.
Speaker 2: But you know where I think the disconnect come from
Speaker 2: because we had a conversation, right, But I would never
Speaker 2: say what that conversation was about on it because it
Speaker 2: was personal. But I think this was at the time
Speaker 2: when Kanye and you had YO fall out. You told
Speaker 2: me a situation was like Yo, bleak, I put my
Speaker 2: all into you know what I mean, The niggas give
Speaker 2: me the ads to kids. So to do that again,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm blaming too much on the line
Speaker 2: for nothing. Turn so I expected that, but I was.
Speaker 2: But at that time, I'm like, damn, why am I
Speaker 2: being penalized for the relationship with somebody else? Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I would never penalize you for that, not not per
Speaker 2: se like, Yo, I ain't fucking with you because of that.
Speaker 3: But I just think you didn't the.
Speaker 2: Way like the way you gave you show Kanye that
Speaker 2: love is the same way sifhe went for Rihanna.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like after the situation went down
Speaker 2: with y'all, and you just didn't fuck with no rapper
Speaker 2: like that, not just Rockefeller, you just didn't put your
Speaker 2: all into any mc like that.
Speaker 3: That could be fair, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: almost it's almost to the point where if like, you
Speaker 3: know what, don't get too invested in the artistry because
Speaker 3: you might think that you're friends, but they're not really
Speaker 3: your friends, you know. So then I started my mindset
Speaker 3: back then, was like, Yo, if they're not coming, if
Speaker 3: they're not coming over to the crib to eat on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: they might not be a fan, right And i'd be
Speaker 3: really your fan.
Speaker 2: So and that's what's my thing. Like I used to
Speaker 2: always try to express to all of y'all, was like, Yo, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm in the industry, but I'm not an industry. That's
Speaker 2: one thing. So I'm gonna follow the rules of life,
Speaker 2: not the rules of industry. So regardless of how anything
Speaker 2: played out, I'm gonna always be a man of my
Speaker 2: word and integrity. First, I would never look at any
Speaker 2: of them be like yo, he ain't playing my round funk.
Speaker 2: That was just bullshit me chopping it up with Syche.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you didn't take it personally.
Speaker 3: I was that ass.
Speaker 1: Serien was because we got way too much history for
Speaker 1: that to be like to break the that's.
Speaker 2: Not gonna knock down the third little piggy house now
Speaker 2: of course, you know what I mean. We need a
Speaker 2: bigger wolf than that, like world, So what the next
Speaker 2: chapter look like?
Speaker 3: For enough? Man, I'm having a good time right now.
Speaker 3: We just launched at Heavy It is DJ's podcast, that's
Speaker 3: what something. And the premise on that is like I
Speaker 3: get to tell all my DJ story and divisions right right.
Speaker 3: We A lot of people don't know when I built
Speaker 3: Heavy it is. It's just it was just based on knowledge.
Speaker 3: I used to be in this this little article and
Speaker 3: Hits magazine and this dude named Ricky Lee used to
Speaker 3: run the magazine in this column and it was just
Speaker 3: basically he would always ask you, what's your top favorite
Speaker 3: three records of the time? Right, So the DJs in
Speaker 3: the country all had different answers. So like there was
Speaker 3: like dudes from Houston on the box or guys in
Speaker 3: Dallas or dudes from La people in Miami. All the
Speaker 3: music was different. It's not like it is today. It's
Speaker 3: kind of similar. Yeah, it was very regional, and I
Speaker 3: thought because at that time I was becoming I was
Speaker 3: becoming a nationwide disc jockey. I was working at BET,
Speaker 3: I was the DJ for one on sixt in Park Damn.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that and I hosted a show called
Speaker 3: one O six in Park Prime. The only was out
Speaker 3: for about a year or so, but that gave me
Speaker 3: a lot of light, especially in black South America. Hey
Speaker 3: what I mean? But it's like you go to Alabama, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: They knew my name, bro, that's right, and they knew it. Well,
Speaker 2: that's one thing. High ninety seven DJs. All your niggas
Speaker 2: was like rappers, straight up so good.
Speaker 3: I'd be in Shriport, Louisiana and they be like, you'll
Speaker 3: teach you enough. Like the fuck? Do you know why?
Speaker 1: I Matt, that's right.
Speaker 3: You know I'm in New Orleans enough. You know I'm
Speaker 3: in Texas, Yeah enough. I'm like, this is crazy. It major.
Speaker 3: It's so great a DJ. That's that's major. Man.
Speaker 2: It's not It's not easy, man, trust me. As many
Speaker 2: DJs I love in San Francisco. But I'm telling you
Speaker 2: a lot of my dogs in New York probably don't
Speaker 2: even know who they are, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So that's a major deal to be a DJ.
Speaker 3: Breaking cultural barriers and facts states, different countries all over
Speaker 3: like heavy hit.
Speaker 2: That's like I say, y'all all over the world. Bro
Speaker 2: shouts of the pirate DJs in the Bay something. Man,
Speaker 2: So I know you said, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You got the podcast, you got the book coming out.
Speaker 2: You want to elaborate when Nash dropping or anything.
Speaker 3: The book we're still working on. So I can't give
Speaker 3: you a time yet. Maybe maybe next year sometime. That's
Speaker 3: what's uping man. Now, I appreciate you pulling up e man.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you everything, my brother, you know it. Like yo,
Speaker 3: I wish you none but success.
Speaker 2: You just killed me. You told me you fifty seven.
Speaker 2: You like you fucking forty seven out here, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Still mingling with us, man, because I'm
Speaker 2: forty seven feeling like I'm thirty seven.
Speaker 1: So we got a kid.
Speaker 2: We gotta rewind the clock. We ain't going for we
Speaker 2: vintage were not old.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a good time. That's right, man, we here, man,
Speaker 2: you know what it is. You know what This is
Speaker 2: the thirtieth anniversary of Reasonable Doubt. Right, we're doing the
Speaker 2: Jay thirty. You got anything you will want to say
Speaker 2: about his contribution to the You know about Reasonable Doubt
Speaker 2: thirty years later? Bro, I can't even imagine that should
Speaker 2: sound funny saying thirty years reasonable doubt.
Speaker 3: Yo, I'm gonna drop. I'm gonna drop something that's it's
Speaker 3: not reasonable bout doubt it. But I'm gonna give you
Speaker 3: a fun fact. So I do this thing. We just
Speaker 3: started it on our podcast called Believe It or Not? Right,
Speaker 3: Remember that song Reservoir Dogs? All right, Okay, if it
Speaker 3: wasn't for it wasn't for Big Spanish DG enough, I
Speaker 3: don't think Reservoir Dogs would have happened, No fucking way.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. So I was doing the morning
Speaker 3: show at the time of the radio. Right, there's a
Speaker 3: gentleman who worked on the other side of the radio
Speaker 3: on BLS or Kiss. His name was Isaac Hayes. Right.
Speaker 3: The sample to the Reservoir Dogs was Sir mister Isaac
Speaker 3: Hayes aka Black Moses. I'm having my big and egg
Speaker 3: and cheese. He's drinking like some healthy honey, cayenne pepper,
Speaker 3: lemon fasting. He's doing some fast and he talks to me,
Speaker 3: you know, jay Z, I'm like, yeah, he's about to
Speaker 3: be the biggest thing in the world. Why what's up?
Speaker 3: He wants some sample my baby? What baby? My shaft?
Speaker 3: Because the sample for resid wal doll is a shaft, right,
Speaker 3: And he was like, you know that one of an
Speaker 3: Academy award for Grammy or this or that. He's breaking
Speaker 3: down all the accolades and he was like, he wants
Speaker 3: to sample my baby. I said, Isaac, you gotta let
Speaker 3: him do it because he's one of the hottest dudes
Speaker 3: in the street. He's gonna take it to a space
Speaker 3: and maybe you'll be proud of him for doing that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so go sign that. Wow.
Speaker 2: Little things like that, that's crazy it or not, believe
Speaker 2: it or not. And Jay, That's that's dope, man, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like I said, reasonable thout thirty years.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been in the game thirty years. I'm
Speaker 2: an old young ass nigga.
Speaker 3: Man. Niggas ain't got nothing knowing me, man.
Speaker 2: He like I said, Bro, I appreciate you man always
Speaker 2: showed love. Like I said, one of the staples of
Speaker 2: New York hip hop party sing. When you go to
Speaker 2: these parties in New York City, y'all created that wave.
Speaker 3: I believe that we're still going my g especially additional
Speaker 3: rock dation have em Marie, thank you, my brother.
Speaker 1: You already know man, You already know who the fam is.
Speaker 3: Man.
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