1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Get the home field advantage with healthcare coverage from Farm 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Bureau Health Plans. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: forty seven. Mike Keith with Amy Wells. Amy, glad to 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: have you with us on this Friday afternoon. Oh, it's 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: good to be here. Mike Key, it's good to talk 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: to you. It's good to talk with you as well. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: And Titans Radio's head coach Dave McGinnis kind enough to 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: join us on this Friday afternoon. Coach Mike, how are you. 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for inviting me, Mike Keith, good to see you, 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Amy Wells. We're at this point the legal tampering period, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: which I love. I love that term, don't you. The 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: legal tampering period begins Monday at eleven am Central. Free 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: agency officially commences when the year starts Wednesday afternoon, Saint 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, three o'clock Central time. So, Coach mac, we're 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: here with what figures to be one of the most bizarre, 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: one of the most wild and wooly free agency periods 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: we have seen since free agency started twenty seven years ago. 19 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Because the amount of money is not there, commiserate to 20 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the number of quality players who are going to be 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: free to sign with whatever team they can, and it's 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna I think it's gonna take a while to sort 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: it all out. Do you agree, Well, yeah, let me 24 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: take you and Amy Wells and the ot people back 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: always when free agency was in its infancy nineteen eighty nine. 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: All right, I was on the Bears. We were coaching 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl, and we were informed when we 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: were in Hawaii that there was a something called Plan B. 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: And so we all sat on benches in a high 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: school locker room with Mike Ditka and a sheet with 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Bill Tobin, a roster sheet, and there were thirty seven 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: players that we could protect, and then everybody else was 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: free to go anywhere they wanted to go. All right, 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: that was Planned B in nineteen eighty nine, and so 35 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: everybody thought, well, you know, how is this going to work? 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: And then, of course, clearly from that, as you said, 37 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: it's morphed into what it is now. But this in 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: the modern day era, once free agency was in this 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: is the strangest and this will take the most maneuvering 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: by capologists, by general managers and by head coaches not 41 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: only cutting their teams down, but deciding where the money goes. Amy, 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: As you have read about all of this and have 43 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: you prepared for the start of the league year and 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: free agency, what has sort of jumped out to you 45 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: the most about what you've been reading and seeing, not 46 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: just from the Titans, but from around the league. What 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: has struck me through all of this is the names 48 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: that we're seeing already early on in the way that 49 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: general managers are needing to manipulate their rosters. And we've 50 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: been talking about it for a while. You just cannot 51 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: keep everybody. So at this time of year, you'll usually 52 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: see a couple people being release, store not being renewed 53 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: their contracts, and different things like that, but it's never 54 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: some big names. It's not usually the volume of stars 55 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: that we're seeing. I commented a couple days ago just 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: kind of watching the ticker on the bottom of a 57 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: screen while I was watching a different sporting event, and 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I was like, look at all of those names that 59 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: are going across the bottom of my TV screen, And 60 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: this is only going to continue happening because of the 61 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: strange year that we're experiencing. But that's what's really jumped 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: out to me is how many stars we're hearing become 63 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: free agents and how many names we're all familiar with 64 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: we're seeing being released from teams. Surely because teams can't 65 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: keep everybody this year. It's wild. Yeah, there's just not 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: enough room. The Players Association said that in terms of 67 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: revenue lost, that if the true salary cap figure were 68 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: based on revenue loss this year, each team would have 69 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five million dollars to spend. Instead, 70 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna have one hundred and eighty two and a 71 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: half million dollars to spend because the league is not 72 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: going to absorb the entire loss from twenty twenty in 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: this one year. So that's a good thing for everybody. 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: And yet each team is losing sixteen million dollars off 75 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the salary cap from twenty twenty based on what happened 76 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: revenue wise, overall, the league went from sixteen million in 77 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: revenue to twelve million in revenue. Dave McGinnis, I'm wondering this. 78 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Normally teams do their sort of cap look the deepest 79 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: look in two year totals this year. In the next year, 80 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: how cautious do you expect teams to be because not 81 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: only is it a down year in twenty twenty one 82 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: in terms of the cap, but we don't know how 83 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: much the cap is going to go up in twenty 84 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty two, and we may not know for quite a while. Mike, 85 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Let's look at it this way. Before COVID hit everybody, 86 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, you expect the cap to increase in a 87 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: normal running year ten million dollars. So now they're down 88 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: fifteen seven. Add that ten to it. That's what people expected. 89 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: So you would have instead of instead of thinking of it, 90 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: you know as fifteen seven down, think of it before 91 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: you knew COVID was coming in, you know, as as 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: as twenty five seven down. Now that's a big difference. 93 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: You usually do your cap three years out. And the 94 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: reason you have to do this is because likely to 95 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: be earned incentives, not likely to be earned incentives. And plus, 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I want our OT people to remember this, this number 97 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: that you see, it's not only for signing players. Now. 98 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: The money has to go through the draft, It has 99 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: to go through your practice squad, it has to go 100 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: through injury settlements, it has to go through being able 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: to sign people during the season. So it's not just 102 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: all of that money goes to players right now on 103 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: your final fifty three, and so people need to understand 104 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: that and look at that. And so when you start 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: looking at the numbers that these teams have, they're about 106 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: five teams that are loaded with cash. Okay, five teams 107 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: that have capped space. And there are some teams Mike 108 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: and Amy and for our listeners that will will use 109 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: the cash overcap thing as to whether they'll you know, 110 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: they'll pay big money upfront, spread it out as a 111 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: signing bonus, and just pay the piper later. But you 112 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: start looking at it really from an accounting aspect of it, 113 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: look at it with all of those factors coming in 114 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and just you know, playing the game that they really 115 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: were expecting twenty five point seven more million than they 116 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: have right now. Oh, coachback, you've hit it on the nose. 117 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: And Amy, I think what he's saying, just to put 118 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: it another way, is if you're a team like the Titans, 119 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: to sign your draft class, to do your practice squad, 120 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to pay people who end up on injured reserve and 121 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: replace guys who go on IR and to have a 122 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: little bit of a cushion, a team like the Titans 123 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: probably needs another twenty million dollars in terms of what 124 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: their number is. So if you're saying they're X number 125 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: of dollars below the cap right now, just to function, 126 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna need another twenty million dollars, which is why 127 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: when they don't go wild right out of the gate 128 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: signing players, everybody's like, well, what are they waiting on? Well, 129 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: they realize they're to have more work to do, and 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: every team has more work to do. In that way, 131 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: there's a March seventeenth number, and then there's a September 132 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: sixth number, and you've got to keep the September sixth 133 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: number in mind when you're beginning on March the seventeenth, 134 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's not easy to totally comprehend for any of us. Absolutely, 135 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: these teams are playing the long game here, because, as 136 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about, it's not just this season that needs 137 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: to be taken into consideration, and it's not just this 138 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: free agency in the next couple of weeks. We've got 139 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: to get rosters put together for the entire twenty twenty 140 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: one season and make sure that you're in a decent 141 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: place financially moving forward into twenty twenty two and beyond. 142 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: So I think that every year, fans get so fired 143 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: up about the prospect of free agency and what could 144 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: be and looking at all of the names that are 145 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: out there. But and I hate to use a coachmac 146 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: phrase because he usually says it to me when I 147 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: least want to hear it. But everyone's got to keep 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: their powder dry this year because there are so many 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: components that come into the pieces of the puzzle. I 150 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: think that we are not likely to see the mass 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: exodus that is the beginning of free agency, where you 152 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: just see names coming off the board and everybody grabbing 153 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: at people in these outrageous amounts of money being spent, 154 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: because everybody's got to be really cautious with what is 155 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: happening with their rosters, and they have to plan for 156 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: the future. They have to plan for what could happen 157 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: during a season. They have to plan for everything that 158 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: Mike laid out that can happen throughout the course of 159 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: an NFL season. So I think this is going to 160 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: lack some of the flash and excitement that we sometimes 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: get in free agency. But you have to have to 162 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: remember it's not that general managers are asleep at the wheel. 163 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: They're playing the long game, and you want to manager 164 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: that played the long game. All right, coach, I want 165 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: to ask you about Isaiah Wilson in a different way. 166 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: The Titans traded him to Miami, and reportedly we haven't 167 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: seen the exact terms of the deal. Reportedly it's for 168 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: a seven this year in exchange for the Titans seven 169 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. And I know Isaiah Wilson a 170 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: very controversial figure among Titans fans. We know all the 171 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: off the field stuff, we know the suspension, we know, 172 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, we get it. It didn't turn out well, 173 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: no secret to that. The question that I have gotten 174 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: and that I want you to answer, from a football 175 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: standpoint and from your knowledge of inner workings of a team, 176 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: why is it in the titans best interest to not 177 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: wait and see if he might fulfill some promise and 178 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: get himself together? Why is it better for the Titans 179 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: to go ahead and trade him now? Well, first of all, 180 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean they spent all years trying to see if 181 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to play. They gave him every opportunity. There 182 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: was really no reason for him not to want to play. Ever, 183 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: there was no reason. Ever, and as I said, I 184 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: vetted him, and you know when we did the Titans Radio, 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: and we did we did our draft show, and I 186 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: was all for the player physically, what I had vetted 187 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: at Georgia. Perfect right tackle in an outside zone scheme, 188 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: perfect situation to come in with a veteran offensive line, 189 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: even more perfect to come in and learn for several 190 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: weeks through training camp, you know, behind Dennis Kelly, and 191 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: then halfway through the season you'd have a guy to 192 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: be contributed. He never ever wanted to do that. So 193 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: if somebody never ever wants to do that at your place, 194 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: then you are better off cutting your losses, recouping a 195 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: little bit of money, but then moving forward. Because here's 196 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: what he had become, and you saw what Mike Rabel 197 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: and John Robinson did. They finally just sent him away 198 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: because the team was trying to win an AFC South 199 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: champion and ship and you didn't need that thing buzzing 200 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: around constantly. So just you know, put him on, put 201 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: him on the non football injury list, send him off, 202 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: all right, and then deal with it in the offseason. 203 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: John Robinson dealt with it very well. And the thing 204 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: that John Robinson did, and I know you and Amy, 205 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: we're all on the same page with John Robinson, and 206 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: for ot people. He stepped up and said, hey, there 207 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: was a mistake, is a mistake, but the thing you 208 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: have to do the people are the most successful in 209 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: this league decision maker wise, because you're never going to 210 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: be right all the time, but when you're not right, 211 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: you try to write that wrong as quick as possible. 212 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Don't hang on to maybes in this league, This is 213 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: not a maybe league. Mac, how much does that help 214 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: protect the ecosystem within the locker room. We know there's 215 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of change this offseason, and 216 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: there would be some people that we aren't going to 217 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: see in twenty twenty one, but the overall culture is 218 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: very well established within the Titans locker room. How much 219 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: does a move like this protect that and almost lend 220 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: credibility to back up that this is what we actually 221 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: believe as the Tennessee Titans when you are a part 222 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: of this franchise. Yeah, I like the adjective you used 223 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: amy incredibility. I mean it validates, it validates the message 224 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: that you are sending and validation and honesty. You know, 225 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: when I first got in the league and I asked 226 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, what do I need to do to earn 227 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: the respect of the Super Bowl Shuffle team that I'm 228 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,239 Speaker 1: going to be dropped into. He said, First and foremost, 229 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: always tell us the truth. And so once you tell 230 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: the truth to players, they will accept it. Sometimes they 231 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: may not like it, but they accept the truth. They 232 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: accept honesty. I just had dinner with Keith Bullock Monday 233 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: night and one of the things we talked about, you know, 234 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: and KB said, Mack, the one thing I always appreciate 235 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: it from you, good or bad. I knew you were 236 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: going to be straight up with me, and that's what 237 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: players want. That's what this did for this locker room 238 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: and this organization. Well, and what is important too around 239 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: this team, and when you see the leadership on this team, 240 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: they get that what they have is a job. This 241 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: is a job, just like we do jobs, like the 242 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: people who listen to the OTP do jobs. And if 243 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: you are not serious about your job, then you're not staying. 244 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Amy Adams, Strunk ain't putting up with it, John Robinson, 245 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, that is not happening. Your answer was better 246 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: from the football perspective. But to me, if this person 247 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: doesn't get it, when we've seen people walk through those doors, 248 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: including our best players, Dereck Henry. I mean, do you 249 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: think about Derreck Henry. He gets that it's a job 250 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: better than anybody. You play football on Sunday. You're working 251 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: a job Monday through Saturday, you know. And if you 252 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: don't get that, then you're not gonna make it no 253 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: how matter how many times you get traded, or if 254 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: the Dolphins coach went to your high school and your clothes, 255 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it don't make any difference. Um, that's just 256 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: not going to happen. But good question by you, Amy. 257 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask you too. The Titans let Kenny 258 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Vaccaro go to save money. Coach Mack chances a Monty 259 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Hooker can be the guy to replace him at safety. 260 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: He is the guy. He's absolutely the guy. I mean, 261 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, he had his chance last year. He played 262 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: in a lot of sub packages last year and has 263 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: been trained there and so it's his time. I mean, 264 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: he was drafted to play. I mean, it's his time down. 265 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: He had plenty of time to learn and to work 266 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: behind a veteran and it's just it's the it's the 267 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: evolution on a team in the National Football League. When 268 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: it's your time, it's your time to step up. Kenny 269 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Vacaro was a really good play, but Kenny Vaccaro again, 270 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and we're going to see an Amy brought it up 271 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: in the first part of this podcast, is that you're 272 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of vets out there. This 273 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: is a dangerous time to be highly paid and to 274 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: be close to thirty years old in the National Football 275 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: League and he's thirty, Malcolm Butler, Amy thirty one, played 276 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: well the last two years, done a good job. Nothing 277 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: against him and his effort, but as it turns out, 278 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: making a lot of money. The Titans got to find 279 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: money somewhere, and we're seeing this. I mean, the Kansas 280 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: City Chiefs let their two starting tackles go. Where I 281 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: mean this is this is part of the thread that 282 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: doesn't make it any easier to accept as a fan. 283 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you've got a guy like 284 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton and he's got to step up. Amy, yep. 285 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: And in the National Football League there's always a silver lining, 286 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: and for me, the silver lining I'm taking out of 287 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: this because I hate to see vets go, especially vetts 288 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: who still have a lot in the tank and who 289 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: we all really enjoyed working with. This is not a 290 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: fun time of year for that kind of thing. But 291 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the silver lining in all of this is that this 292 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: is a great year and a great opportunity for young guys, 293 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: guys who don't cost a lot of money, who aren't 294 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: going to cost a blot against the cap, but can 295 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: really take this opportunity to step up and play. Christian 296 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: Fulton needs to step up and play. There are a 297 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: lot of young guys who wouldn't necessarily get the reps 298 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: or the opportunity because they'd be behind two or three 299 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: other vets who are high paid. So giving some of 300 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: these younger guys the chance to step into those roles 301 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and kind of have a baptism by fire because you 302 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: have to do this. Now, what an opportunity for those guys. 303 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: Coach back. Is it fair to say that when Christian 304 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Fulton played when he was healthy, he did a nice 305 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: job and showed the promise that they hoped when they 306 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: drafted him in the second round. He was okay, Mike, 307 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: but he didn't get it, you know, you know, he 308 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: didn't get a full training camp, he didn't get a 309 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: full off season, I mean, and that's going to be 310 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: very very important for him. It's important for all of 311 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: those guys that went through what we all went through 312 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: once COVID hit. But yes, I mean I've vetted him too. 313 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: He's got the requisite skills to play. I think he's 314 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: more of an outside player than an inside slot player, 315 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: but that's where he needs to play. He needs to 316 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: step right in there. And while we're talking about this, 317 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Kenny Vaccaro and Malcolm Butler, they earned every cent of 318 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: the money that we paid them. They earned every cent 319 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: of it. They didn't do anything wrong. They just they 320 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: are caught up in the economics of the National Football 321 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: League after a massive, massive financial loss because of the pandemic. 322 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: But Christian Fulton, yes, he can play, but he is 323 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: going to have to, like Amy says, step up. But 324 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: he's got to prepare himself right now, and I'm sure 325 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: he's been doing it before this. To be a starter, 326 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: you've got to prepare yourself for that and then be 327 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: able to withstand all the ups and downs that come 328 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: with it. You mentioned Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry just didn't 329 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: have a fast jump start to his career either. I 330 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: mean that's been well documented, we all watched it. But 331 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: perseverance and what it takes and the sweat equity that 332 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: you're willing to put into your position. That's when it 333 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: days off. Coach Mack, as you study the corners in 334 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft, are you confident the Titans 335 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: are going to be able to find one or two 336 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: who can help them in twenty twenty one if they 337 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: choose to go in that direction. Yes, there's a group 338 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: at the top. I mean, i'd say three or four 339 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: at the top that are just are those dudes? All right? 340 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: But here's what's in this draft. There are still guys 341 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: in the middle rounds that will be able to come 342 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: in and contribute. And what is in this draft too, 343 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: there's some slot corners in this draft because they are 344 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: playing against those all the films that I'm watching. And 345 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: I knew this, you know, from doing coach to coach 346 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: all season and this, you know, knowing what it's going 347 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: on in ball. In the collegiate world, people are playing 348 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: against three or four wides all the time. So you 349 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: have guys specifically that are playing in the cylinder inside, 350 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: in the slot. There are those guys in this draft too, 351 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: all right. So let me run through some of the 352 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: moves that the Titans have made just a kind of 353 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: bring you up to speed. As we get ready to 354 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: jump into next week for the ot people. Adam Humphries, 355 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: of course, was waived the Titans clear some cap room there. 356 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: The Titans did not tender Calif Raymond wide receiver as 357 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. Now that doesn't mean they can't 358 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: resign him at some point, and you're gonna see this, 359 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I think with a lot of guys around the league, 360 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: some of those younger players who were sort of in 361 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: those in between spots. But they chose not to tender him. 362 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: So he's going to go out there be a free agent. 363 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: Maybe he signed somewhere else, maybe he comes back to 364 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: the Titans. We mentioned Malcolm Butler and Kenny Vaccaro were waived. 365 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Chris Milton's special teams Ace was waved off injured reserve 366 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: on February the twenty fifth. That was a procedural move, 367 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: but at this point he is obviously not on the team. 368 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: Cornerback Breon Borders, who started some games last year, also 369 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: waved off injured reserve, but he was resigned on March 370 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: the first, So Brion Borders in the mix. You know, 371 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: we'll see where he fits. The Titans have resigned card 372 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: lasting game fullback and a guy who's played well for 373 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: them for the last two years, gives them something on 374 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: special teams, has the ability to carry the ball at 375 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: the end of a game and can line up in 376 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: different places, so some versatility with carry blasting game. He 377 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: has been resigned. Isaiah Wilson was traded on March the eighth. 378 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: That trade will go through once the league year starts. 379 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: He sent to Miami. They have also signed some guys 380 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: to futures contracts, but coach mc not a lot of 381 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: moves by the Titans. You gotta figure though that they're 382 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: not through shaking this thing. But John Robinson not going 383 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: to be in a hurry to do anything until he 384 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: absolutely has to. I think that the last thing you 385 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: said in that phrase, he's not going to be in 386 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: a hurry because there's no reason to be. I mean, 387 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: there is no reason to be in a hurry. You 388 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: know how much money you're going to have, and especially 389 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: if you're going to clear a little bit more money, 390 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: you even have a better idea this look, this whole situation, 391 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Mike and me and for our listeners, it didn't just 392 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: jump up on the Titans two weeks ago. They knew 393 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: this was coming. Everybody in the league knew this was coming, 394 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: so they are going to take their time. And is now, 395 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: more than ever, is the time to take your time, 396 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: because what I think you're going to see guys, You're 397 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of players playing on one 398 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: year contracts this year. That to me, is going to 399 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: be very prevalent in the National Football League for this season. 400 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: And speaking of contracts, Amy, I think about this and 401 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: I go back to it as I consider the extra 402 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: money that you have to keep for the draft picks 403 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: and for the practice squad and for the injured reserve, 404 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: and you know, sort of that little buffer you'd like 405 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: to keep in case you want to pick up a 406 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: guy in season. And then I think about, we don't 407 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: know what the cap number is going to be in 408 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, because we're still not sure what twenty 409 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: twenty one is going to look like. And then I 410 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: think about guys that you're gonna have to pay money 411 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and I think about a Jay Brown. 412 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Can you know who else? I think about? I think 413 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: about Big Nate Davis, who had a really good year. 414 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: All of those things you have to keep in mind. Wow, 415 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: you want to keep a good team together, that has 416 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: a chance to win a championship. Absolutely, there's a lot 417 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to think about. First, Let's think about not pitching to 418 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: me and saying speaking of contracts, Amy, because it sounds 419 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: like I'm about to get fired on the OTB and 420 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: that's just really sad for me. I thought you were 421 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: going to end my contract. Oh no, no, you're okay. 422 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: But yes, there are a lot of things to think 423 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: about for John Robinson right now. I mean, beyond everything 424 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: that is twenty twenty one and not knowing what it's 425 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: going to look like. I would start like stashing away 426 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: some pennies for a J Brown, you know, just start 427 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: a little coin jar, maybe something small where you can 428 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: just put some things away. Yeah, we've got some big 429 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: ticket items on the horizon, and every couple of years 430 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: this happens for this Titans team because John Robinson does 431 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: such a good job of balancing all of that out. 432 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: Jay rob has the pieces in his head way far 433 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: in advance of the rest of us. He already knows 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: the chess moves that are coming up, and he plans 435 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: for them so well. So the Titans are never going 436 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: to be in a situation where we've run out of 437 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: money with air quotes like we will always be ready, 438 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: but it's something that he has to start thinking about 439 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: and planning for right now. So yeah, that's going to 440 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: have an impact on what they end up doing. The 441 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: Then Marino is huge in this. I mean, you're you're 442 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: capologist for your teams right now. They are the MVP 443 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: of the clubs right now. They are huge in this, 444 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: and not only for the immediate but the projections like 445 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Amy's talking about, because this is real talk. I mean, 446 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: this is real talk. And you when you start putting 447 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: those up on the board. I've cleared a cat before 448 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: with a team that was in cat jail, and so 449 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: what you have to do. You have to put it 450 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: on the board. And it's constantly like a Tetris puzzle, 451 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: it's moving, It constantly moves. But you first and foremost 452 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: have to get an idea numbers wise, and your numbers 453 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: guy has to be pretty spot on. We're in an 454 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: interesting position among teams, I mean, the five straight winning 455 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: seasons and the fact that the Titans have paid some guys. 456 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, they paid a quarterback, they paid a running back, 457 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: they paid a left tackle, they paid a left guard. Um, 458 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, they've they paid a safety they've they've certainly 459 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: draft they've used some first round picks on a defensive 460 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: tackle and on an inside linebacker. Um, you know you 461 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: got you got Harold Landry, who's right around the corner. 462 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Money wise too. I mean, you've you've done some different things. 463 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: But I think what's interesting about this And I think 464 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are an interesting model because Coach Mack, you're 465 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: gonna take away chairs from the Titans table. In terms 466 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: of veteran players, every team is and then you're going 467 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to add chairs back. And I think like the Bucks 468 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: who built through a season and they seven and five, 469 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: but at the end of the year, they were the 470 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: best team. They were better than the Kansas City Chiefs 471 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: on Super Bowl Sunday, the better team even though they 472 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: didn't have the better record, they won the game because 473 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: they were the best team at the end. Isn't that 474 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: the goal? In I know, winning the Super Bowls everybody's goal. 475 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: But in terms of this year, it feels like as 476 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: you put those chairs back around the table with those 477 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: players that you're gonna sign in March and April and 478 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: May and June, you're gonna keep You're gonna keep adding. 479 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: You're probably thinking, I want to get off to a 480 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: good start, yes, but what I really want is to 481 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: be peeking at the end like a basketball team, much 482 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: like the Buccaneers did this year. Well, and National Football 483 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: League team is a living, breathing organism throughout a season, 484 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be it's gonna be like a amiba. 485 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: There's ebbs and flows, and it's gonna change shape quite 486 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: a bit. But what you like to do, and what 487 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: you said is so true, Mike. You want to keep 488 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: yourself your head above water so that you can make 489 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: a run. If when you make a run, because as 490 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: you say, it's not the team that has got the 491 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: best stats that win the Super Bowl. It's not the 492 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: team that has the best record. I've been on fourteen 493 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: and two teams that got beat in the first round 494 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. So you what you have to be 495 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: able to do is keep this organism breathing and working 496 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: and improving enough so that when you make your run, 497 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: everybody talks about that stretch run. That's real, it's completely real. 498 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: Then you have to be at your best. And here's 499 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: what happened with the Super Bowl. Let's not kid ourselves. 500 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: They the Tampa was at their best upfront defensively. Kansas 501 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: City was at their worst upfront offensively. End of story. 502 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: Highest scoring team in the league did not sniff the 503 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: goal line. Okay, end of story. That's my story and 504 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm sticking to it, and you think about it. I mean, 505 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the point he makes is great amy because the twenty 506 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: nineteen Titans entered the playoffs at nine and seven, and 507 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I will contend they would have beaten the twenty twenty 508 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Titans had they played head to head, because the twenty 509 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: twenty Titans were playing with a third string left tackle 510 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: and you know, being held together in some areas by 511 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: string in Bailey wire. It was really a great job 512 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: to me that they got to that point. But the 513 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Titans were rolling. You sensed it, you felt it, 514 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: even though they were two games worse in terms of 515 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: overall record. Yeah, so much of that is hitting it 516 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: at the right time. You got to hit that sweet spot, 517 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, and get that bounce that takes you in 518 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the right direction. You've got that momentum, You've got the 519 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: health that we had in twenty nineteen. There were so 520 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: many things that were happening at the right moment, exactly 521 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: the way the Titans needed it too, and in twenty twenty, 522 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: the team was good, had had a good record. It 523 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the same. It wasn't that same bounce that you 524 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: felt kind of propelling you into that playoff time. Um 525 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: So going forward, you know, that's what you're kind of 526 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: hoping to capture every year. You're trying to catch that 527 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: special something, bottle it, and then use it throughout the playoffs. 528 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: That's the goal, something that you can't control. And Amy 529 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: hit on it. And it's one hundred percent true. The 530 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: health of the nineteen team, this twenty twenty team that 531 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: won eleven games. I mean, and I know people are disgruntled. 532 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Up with the defense. Look at the number of people 533 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: in the secondary that were shuffled, look at the number 534 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: of people that were in and out. You lost it 535 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: behind the ball, linebacker arguably your best space player. I mean, 536 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: all of those things make a difference. It was, it was, 537 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a blessing that this offense was 538 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: a tremendous offense and that you had an otherworldly running game. Okay, 539 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: but health, none of us sitting here right now can 540 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: can forecast what are health is going to be. You know, 541 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: in ten months time, and so a football team is 542 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: the same way. But if you can hit that, as 543 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Amy says, that sweet spot, I've done it with teams before, 544 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden in that last five weeks 545 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: of the season, everybody, even if you've had people hurt early, 546 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: you've managed to keep that your nose above the water line, 547 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: and then they come back healthy and all of a 548 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: sudden you get on a run. Health. Health is an 549 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: important important factor in this. But at the same time, 550 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear that all your charge with in 551 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: National Football League is winning winning. It's win or lose. 552 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: That's what the National Football League is. And that's why 553 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: every day in the National Football League, for all of 554 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: us that work in it, every day's an interview. So 555 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: come to work. Strap it up, let's go go get 556 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: sacked by the high cost of healthcare. Make Farm Bureau 557 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Health Plans your first line of protection. They've been protecting 558 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven, Amy, I'm gonna let 559 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: coach Matt give the benediction here on this edition of 560 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: the OTP Free Agency starting on Wednesday. Titans fans trust you, 561 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, probably more than any other voice out there. 562 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: In terms of what is to come, what should you 563 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: tell or what are you going to tell the ot 564 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: people as the benediction of what they should expect from 565 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: the Titans as free agency begins. This ownership and this 566 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: leadership has done nothing since they've been in charge. Amy Adams, Strunk, 567 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: John Robinson, Mike Vrabel. Since they've been in charge, all 568 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: they've done is point everything that they do to win 569 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: football games. Everything has been everything has been pointed towards that. 570 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: That goal has never changed everything else that going on. 571 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: We're building a beautiful new building, We're doing a lot 572 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: of great things in the community. But this football team 573 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: is pointed towards every year winning football games. That's going 574 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: to be exactly what we are pointed forwards to in 575 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: this offseason and then beginning when everybody gathers back up 576 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: at the end of July. Calf complete faith in that, 577 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: because you've seen it. You've seen this group operate. I mean, 578 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: if you're gonna swing in this league every now and then, 579 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. But if you stand up there and 580 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing with a bat in your hand, 581 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: you've got a chance to come out on top. They've 582 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: come out on top when wise quite a bit. Will 583 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: continue to do that. Amen, Amen, Amen. That doesn't for 584 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: the OTP, For coach David McGinnis and Amy Wells, I 585 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: might keep thanking you for listening to the oaths of 586 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: the traps. I'm going to the kind of Das House, 587 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee greatness is meant to be. Now we got tight 588 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: and bood running through a v