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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We hope you had

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Speaker 1: a nice Thanksgiving, hopefully your shopping today while listening to

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Speaker 1: this show, and we have some great stories for you,

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Speaker 1: so we hope you enjoy. On today's episode, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a real housewife who lost custody of

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Speaker 1: one of her or all of our kids, i should say,

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Speaker 1: from giving one of them an unprescribed medication. A grizzly

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Speaker 1: bear that attacks students and teachers on a field trip.

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Speaker 1: A guynecologist who secretly filmed his patients for years, a

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Speaker 1: man who was caught on video doing something truly disturbing

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Speaker 1: and disgusting, and another scandal rocking the organ donation world.

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Speaker 1: All that and more on Titty's episode. Let's get into this.

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Speaker 1: You're the Real Housewives person. Who is this lady?

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Speaker 2: All right? So, Megan King, she is a former Real

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Speaker 2: housewife of Orange County. She was married to baseball player

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Speaker 2: Jim Edmonds. I don't think you've ever heard of what

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Speaker 2: teams you on? Irrelevant? Like he was on the Angels,

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Speaker 2: the Cardinal, He was on a bunch of different teams.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was on anyone for a significant

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Speaker 2: amount of time. But she is temporary lost custody of

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Speaker 2: her three children after reportedly giving one of her sons

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Speaker 2: riddalin multiple times even though he was not prescribed it.

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Speaker 2: Then she allegedly asked a school nurse to give it

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Speaker 2: to him as well, which then prompted a call to

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that this is probably pretty valid because

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Speaker 1: riddlin is I mean, sometimes like people give their kids

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Speaker 1: medication that they're not prescribed. I don't think that that's

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Speaker 1: the big deal. I think because hdtl's kind of a

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Speaker 1: more hardcore drug. It's a stimulant, so it could lead

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Speaker 1: to like what is it for for ADHD Okay, so

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Speaker 1: it's it's a stimulant, though it's a controlled substance. If

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Speaker 1: this isn't like given your kid, I don't even know,

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Speaker 1: like antibiotic kaream or something like that, Like this is

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Speaker 1: a rhythmia, heart attack, death, it could cause addiction, the

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Speaker 1: drugs known to cause addiction. And also I was because

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Speaker 1: I didn't see in this particular article, but I know

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Speaker 1: that she has twins, so I was wondering where did

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Speaker 1: this medication come from. Was it prescribed to her or

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Speaker 1: was it prescribed to one of the other kids, Because

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Speaker 1: the dosage would really be important too, Like you're not

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Speaker 1: going to give the same dosage to a seven or

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Speaker 2: So, so on a couple other Bravo or pop culture

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Speaker 2: podcast I've listened to since this news broke, there has

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Speaker 2: been speculation that this was an an accidental mix up.

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Speaker 2: So she has twin boys and a daughter, and the

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Speaker 2: mix up is believed. I mean, this is all hearsay,

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Speaker 2: because I don't even think any news outlets have reported

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Speaker 2: this that one of the twins was potentially prescribed the

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Speaker 2: one by accident, which obviously is a huge asked the

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Speaker 2: school nurse to give the other kid the drug. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they're suggesting it was a mix up. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who that information came out, or if people are

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Speaker 2: just trying to defend her in any way possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know it's still I mean,

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Speaker 1: the kid's in your custody and you can't be mixing

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Speaker 1: stuff like that up. I understand that that's a possibility,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like it was several times in addition

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Speaker 1: when really Lillian was supposed to have it, she wouldn't

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Speaker 1: call CPS on me, Like there's more? Do you understand,

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Speaker 1: Like there's there's more to the story.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, because obviously there could be an accidental

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Speaker 2: like you say, you accidentally said they're on kid, Like

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Speaker 2: you're just saying you could say that, right, But I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot going on behind the scenes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but she's not on the show anymore. But by watching

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Speaker 1: Is on a because on Real House, why she's trade

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Speaker 2: Know because these people are on reality shows and they

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Speaker 2: make their lives seem much better, right, So you just

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Speaker 2: in an altercation with the new wife while dropping a

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Speaker 2: wasn't arrested, but the cops were called and she in

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Speaker 2: the reporting was referred to as a suspect. And then

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Speaker 2: there's also you know, in twenty twenty one where she

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Speaker 2: think that necessarily seems that stable when you marry somebody

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Speaker 2: So I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: but I agree with you that I don't think it

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Speaker 2: was a one off accidental situation. They clearly saw something

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Speaker 2: the custody agreement she originally with her husband or what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I could see that for pr purposes,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to make this seem like it was an accident.

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Speaker 1: I just listen, like, people that beat the shit out

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Speaker 1: just don't think that this was just some big mistake,

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Speaker 1: Like there's just I'm sorry, there's just more, especially a

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Speaker 1: way more to the story than we're even hearing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially from a mother that, by all accounts is like

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Speaker 1: Like it's total bullshit. I call bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. In Canada, this group was on a

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Speaker 1: This particular place in the woods. They you know, because

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Speaker 1: that attack these people, because the bear was being a bear.

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Speaker 2: I just can't get down with that, Like the bear

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Speaker 1: They call it this particular area of the woods, they

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's true. I think that's more so

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Speaker 2: Like I think in our area we are more accustomed

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Speaker 2: they are threatened, right, But grizzly bears and brown bears

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Speaker 1: Didn't ever didn't someone ever say that? See that a

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Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio movie where he was like attacked by a

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, like I don't know, I just don't

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Speaker 1: so now they're gonna they're trying to see if they

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Speaker 2: Like my eyes hurt from the eye roll I just

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Speaker 2: did about that, Like, where are we even talking about? Listen,

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Speaker 2: I feel terrible for the people that were attacked. Obviously

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Speaker 2: and now you want to kill it for just being itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make any.

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Speaker 1: It's just really funny how they talk about it as

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine why because it was just living

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Speaker 1: Because that will make the humans feel better. It's unbelievable

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Speaker 2: I don't even like animalst like that, and I hate

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Speaker 1: the donation center and said, listen, this person is showing

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were asking what do we do.

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Speaker 2: I think they were just saying, they're showing signs of life,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to be stopping the procedures, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then the lady was like, that's why. I was like,

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Speaker 1: why would you even call them? They needed to keep operating. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: and if that's the case, and there's the there's a

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Speaker 1: documentation to cover up the incident, And if that's the

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Speaker 1: case and that really happened, like it's just they don't

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Speaker 1: need any negative news right now because people, I'm like

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Speaker 1: the biggest pro organ donation person and this kind of

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Speaker 1: shit makes me nervous. We had a story, do you

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Speaker 1: remember the story that we had a couple years ago

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Speaker 1: about a man who woke up during organ harvesting who's

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Speaker 1: now alive still you know, survived that. So that was

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Speaker 1: a huge thing, and as a person that wants to

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Speaker 1: donate their family member's organs when they die, you want

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Speaker 1: to make sure that that that practice is legit and

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Speaker 1: you're not doing anything that you're not supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: I really don't understand why she would tell them to

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Speaker 1: keep doing it, because she doesn't have any medical training

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Speaker 1: like that. That's why I'm like, I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: if they were just called to say, like, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: just letting you know you're not getting these organs because

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Speaker 1: this person is still alive, then I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why she would bother saying back, no, keep them alive,

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Speaker 1: because like she doesn't have any control over that.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a lot of issues going on here,

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Speaker 2: so they're saying. The House Committee reached out to this

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Speaker 2: company for more info in July and then said they

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Speaker 2: have since uncovered more evidence of potentially illegal operations. And

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Speaker 2: then they were also accused of failing to obtain proper

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Speaker 2: consent from donors' families, skipping patients on transplant lists, and

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Speaker 2: obscuring a mass discard of one hundred pancreas is obtained

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Speaker 2: for research.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm sorry, and skipping people on the list

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Speaker 1: and stuff like why well it's not and who who's

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Speaker 1: deciding like which person should get it? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know that certain patients take priority over other patients, but

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Speaker 1: that would and which, which is a totally legal thing,

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Speaker 1: but obviously what they're doing is not legal. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just concerning because we around here and

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Speaker 1: there's if that's the organ the major organ donation uh

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Speaker 1: establishment in this area, then that makes me nervous as

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Speaker 1: a resident that might have a family member that needs

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Speaker 1: to use that. Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have until December third to produce these

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Speaker 2: documents that have been requested, but it's not seeming like

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Speaker 2: it's going well. If they're already uncovering a bunch of

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Speaker 2: other problems in this company, it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I still I still want to

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Speaker 1: believe that. I know a lot of people that work

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Speaker 1: in the field that just like, they feel very passionate

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Speaker 1: about it and they're legit, and you would just hate

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Speaker 1: for it to go downhill because a couple of like

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Speaker 1: sketchy people, you know, well, at least the hospital stepped

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Speaker 1: in and seemed to do that. Yeah they were yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were just like yeah, no, I mean.

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Speaker 2: But obviously they had to report them because major red flag,

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Speaker 2: right you get. Yeah, and even so, I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: was that, like, like they stopped this procedure and then

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Speaker 2: they're all in the lounge later being like that was weird, right, Yeah,

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