WEBVTT - Sex Work Is Hard Work

0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about

0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:09.160
<v Speaker 1>queer sex, filter dirty words, and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities.

0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more

0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this Viewer

0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.880
<v Speaker 1>discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. Hi. Everyone,

0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.440
<v Speaker 1>today's episode is all about sex work, which is illegal

0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>in most of the United States, and because of this criminalization,

0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.680
<v Speaker 1>sex workers face discrimination in nearly every aspect of our society.

0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Sniffy's Chris Xavier and I don't agree with this state

0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.800
<v Speaker 1>of affairs, and that's why we're doing this episode to

0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.680
<v Speaker 1>help destigmatize sex work. But because sex work is illegal,

0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:44.519
<v Speaker 1>we want to make it clear that this show is

0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.920
<v Speaker 1>for entertainment purposes only, and we are not officially recommending

0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that anyone follow the advice offered in this episode. Sex

0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.840
<v Speaker 1>work isn't a profession to enter into lightly, and hiring

0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.080
<v Speaker 1>sex workers is also legal in most of the US,

0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>so please be aware of this while listening.

0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, game Cruising Combession time. Do you remember learning about

0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.839
<v Speaker 2>paying for sex or being paid for sex?

0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I do, so I grew up in Florida, and there

0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was a street called Obt Orange Blossom Trail, Okay, And

0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.720
<v Speaker 1>every time we drove by it at night, my mom

0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>would be like, that's that's where the whoors work. I

0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.440
<v Speaker 1>grew up Catholic. Her word's not mine, her word's not mine,

0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and so I always had a very like stigmatized understanding

0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of sex work. And then later when I moved to

0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.760
<v Speaker 1>New York, one of my very first jobs in the

0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.840
<v Speaker 1>city was actually editing for a porn company, and I

0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>had never thought of porn performers as sex workers either,

0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.520
<v Speaker 1>But as I started making friends in the industry, a

0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of folks identify as sex workers, whether they just

0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>film porn, whether they were escorts, performers, OnlyFans, content creators,

0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.000
<v Speaker 1>which started happening shortly after I started working in the industry.

0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think I have a much broader understanding of

0:01:54.720 --> 0:02:00.640
<v Speaker 1>sex work now, and working to get rid of that

0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.480
<v Speaker 1>stigma that I was raised with was also something that

0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I had to work with personally, because I

0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.720
<v Speaker 1>have had lovers and friends where sex workers have gone

0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.040
<v Speaker 1>on dates with folks or sex workers, and I think

0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they experience of hesitancy telling me about their work. Yes,

0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you don't have to know. I'm not

0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old Catholic anymore.

0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:19.560
<v Speaker 2>We're good, We're good.

0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's been a learning experience. I'm lucky that

0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I've had people teach me. How about you, what's your

0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:25.560
<v Speaker 1>experience been with sex work?

0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, So I did sex work for about ten years.

0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. It started when I was about fourteen or fifteen.

0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.959
<v Speaker 2>I was homeless and it was in means of survival

0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.359
<v Speaker 2>im Portland, where I grew up. There was a lot

0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>of queer youth who were homeless and we sort of

0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.200
<v Speaker 2>all banded together and my first night out with them,

0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.400
<v Speaker 2>they were like, let's go to this corner. This is

0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.000
<v Speaker 2>where we get our johns. And I was like, not

0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.800
<v Speaker 2>really sure what was going on. The sky pulls up

0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.960
<v Speaker 2>in a BMW. All my friends are like running to

0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the car and he and I'm like standing in the

0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.160
<v Speaker 2>background sort of like what is happening? And he pointed

0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:06.240
<v Speaker 2>at me and I was like what what you want me?

0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.000
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, that was sort of how it started.

0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.280
<v Speaker 2>And over the years like it, you know, I started

0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.920
<v Speaker 2>doing Craigslist and rim Boy and Ritman, and I really

0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.359
<v Speaker 2>leaned into being an escort. A lot of my clients

0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.359
<v Speaker 2>were not sex based. You know, at the time, I

0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.560
<v Speaker 2>spoke for languages, I had a valid passport, I look

0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.399
<v Speaker 2>good in a tux. So I was doing lots of dinners,

0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:32.120
<v Speaker 2>lots of gallas, lots of like boyfriend experiences, and I

0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.200
<v Speaker 2>made a lot of money.

0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure you did, babe, I'm sure you did.

0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.320
<v Speaker 2>And I spent it on clothes. Yes, yes, well that's

0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:43.880
<v Speaker 2>what's funny.

0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, so many sex workers I've spoken to are like,

0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.360
<v Speaker 1>sex is part of the job, but it's surprisingly not

0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.000
<v Speaker 1>as common as you might think. Some folks want to

0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.440
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation, yes, some folks need companies, some folks

0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.680
<v Speaker 1>want the boyfriend experience.

0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's very very interesting broad spectrum of work.

0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's interesting now now that I like, go

0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.720
<v Speaker 2>go dance, like some people would like say that that

0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.000
<v Speaker 2>is sex work, and like, to some extent it kind

0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.280
<v Speaker 2>of is because I am sort of like offering my

0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:14.000
<v Speaker 2>body in this thing in exchange for money. I'm like, yeah,

0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think that the culture around sex

0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.680
<v Speaker 2>work has really changed, and I think it's like broadened

0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.200
<v Speaker 2>a little bit in terms of like instead of just

0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.359
<v Speaker 2>being like a porn performer or someone who you know

0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.200
<v Speaker 2>has sex for money. It has gotten a lot broader.

0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And there's so many ways to exchange sex for money,

0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>whether you're doing it for survival, whether you're doing it

0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to just try it out. Yes, And I think removing

0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that stigma makes it safer for everybody. Yes. And it

0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.640
<v Speaker 1>also acknowledges that, like all work can be kind of exploitative.

0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And you, oh my god, right, I worked in corporate

0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:49.640
<v Speaker 2>America and baby, I was exploited, working sixty hour weeks

0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and making less than forty K a year. Tell me

0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.360
<v Speaker 2>how that's right, Like.

0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.279
<v Speaker 1>America, get it together, Get it together, America capitalism. Man,

0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.240
<v Speaker 1>what a perfect transition into our episode. This week, Chris

0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and I are talking to sex workers Xavier Blanco about

0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.360
<v Speaker 1>how he made his teenage Nomi Malone fantasies a reality

0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and the hard work it took to get there. Yeah,

0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.240
<v Speaker 1>because sex work is hard work. It is, and we're

0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.320
<v Speaker 1>going to dive in further into that. We will also

0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.000
<v Speaker 1>find out what newbies should know about hiring sex workers,

0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and want to know if you are thinking of trying

0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.839
<v Speaker 1>out one of the world's oldest professions yourself. Welcome to

0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Stiffy's Cruising Confessions. I am Gabe Gonzales.

0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week we explore this sublind

0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.279
<v Speaker 2>world of queer sex, cruising and relationship.

0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll be talking to queer folks of all kinds, ask

0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.640
<v Speaker 1>them questions, swap sex.

0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Stories, share intimate revelations. A lot of us are discovering

0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.400
<v Speaker 2>ourselves in cruising spaces. This happened to me at this

0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.320
<v Speaker 2>toilet stall, in the library or the airport. I feel

0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.040
<v Speaker 2>like everybody's gonna fuck a little harder here.

0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Damn.

0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took

0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.080
<v Speaker 1>pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued.

0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.760
<v Speaker 2>And the more I gave to him, the more he

0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:02.479
<v Speaker 2>could tak you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have

0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:09.080
<v Speaker 2>a moral deficit. With the background as divers as his talents,

0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Xavier Blanco is a force to be reckoned with.

0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Xavier's a sex worker advocate and go go dancer. Both

0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris and I have had the pleasure of seeing at

0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.920
<v Speaker 1>core venues around NYC.

0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.440
<v Speaker 2>From his early days as a makeup artist to his

0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.239
<v Speaker 2>current endeavors in the world of sex work. Exavier story

0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.000
<v Speaker 2>is one of resilience and authenticity.

0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.320
<v Speaker 1>You can catch Savior's adventures and insights on all social

0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.400
<v Speaker 1>media platforms at NYC Dominicano, where he shares his experiences, perspectives,

0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and some very wonderful original content.

0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Welcome Xavier Blanco.

0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Hi, how are you? Thanks for joining us, Thanks for

0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.640
<v Speaker 1>having me Xavier. Let's just start off with a very

0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.600
<v Speaker 1>basic definition. How would you define sex worker? What is

0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.640
<v Speaker 1>being a sex worker or the word sex worker mean

0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to you?

0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.040
<v Speaker 3>So it means so many different things to so many

0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.000
<v Speaker 3>different people. For me, sex worker is everything that I do,

0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:03.560
<v Speaker 3>from go go dance to escorting from and OnlyFans. Some

0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.720
<v Speaker 3>people that are go go dancers don't like being categorized

0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.240
<v Speaker 3>as a sex worker, but I feel like when you're

0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.400
<v Speaker 3>using your body to sell and promote yourself like it's

0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.080
<v Speaker 3>sex work. And I love using that term because I

0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.200
<v Speaker 3>do want to. I feel like it's not a word

0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.040
<v Speaker 3>that should be looked at as wrong. So the more

0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I use it, the more I promoted, the more I

0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.120
<v Speaker 3>have like a positive stance behind it. I feel like

0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I can, you know, go on the route of being

0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:31.400
<v Speaker 3>a good thing.

0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Can you talk to us about the first time you

0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.520
<v Speaker 2>saw a sex worker and what that felt like. I

0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:38.640
<v Speaker 2>was really young.

0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.920
<v Speaker 3>It was actually a magazine and it was at a pharmacy.

0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.000
<v Speaker 3>My mom was like picking up medicine and I was

0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.760
<v Speaker 3>just like a little kid, like rummaging through the pharmacy

0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.880
<v Speaker 3>in Long Island, and I saw a playgirl, if I'm

0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.000
<v Speaker 3>not mistaken, so I was just like, Wow, that's hot

0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and did not know what that was. And then from there,

0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.720
<v Speaker 3>like sex has always been an interest of mine since

0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:02.600
<v Speaker 2>A little boy.

0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but I really gravitated to that.

0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.480
<v Speaker 3>And then seeing people like Pamela Anderson, Jenna Jamison Jameson,

0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.080
<v Speaker 3>even though she's a Republican, we didn't.

0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Have to go that far.

0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Like when I saw a female sex workers, I just

0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.720
<v Speaker 3>felt like they were so empowered and they felt so

0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:30.480
<v Speaker 3>secure and that sense of like vulnerability with security, like

0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.120
<v Speaker 3>I really I always just wanted that. I never had

0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.000
<v Speaker 3>that growing up. I grew up overweight, felt always like

0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.320
<v Speaker 3>different because in my school it was like you were

0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.520
<v Speaker 3>either black or white, and I was never either, so

0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.000
<v Speaker 3>I just always constantly felt othered. And when I saw

0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.080
<v Speaker 3>these individuals, they just looked super empowered and full of

0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.360
<v Speaker 3>love and joy, like to me like that's what I

0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:51.959
<v Speaker 3>came across.

0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Save here's a question for you, but truly for both

0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of you. What are some of your favorite experiences you've had,

0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.600
<v Speaker 1>either dancing or in sex work, like anything positive?

0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.720
<v Speaker 2>And oh mine.

0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Would be with with escorting.

0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:09.640
<v Speaker 2>In particular.

0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:14.640
<v Speaker 3>This one specific client who when I first started working

0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.160
<v Speaker 3>with them, I didn't know that they just had surgery.

0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.120
<v Speaker 3>This was also in the middle of COVID and it

0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.679
<v Speaker 3>started off like as a massage session. So at the

0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.280
<v Speaker 3>end of the massage, he simply I was like, can

0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I get a hug? And I'm like, yeah, totally, and

0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.679
<v Speaker 3>he gave me like the most like warmest, most embraced

0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.280
<v Speaker 3>hug ever. And then after it was finished, he's like thinking,

0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.400
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I just had surgery. He's like and then

0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.880
<v Speaker 3>he confessed that he hasn't touched somebody physically in nine months.

0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh god. And it truly like it reminded me.

0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And when I have moments like that, like, oh, this

0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.520
<v Speaker 3>is bigger than just sex, Like what we're doing really

0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:55.559
<v Speaker 3>like changes people's lives, like getting those messages from individuals

0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.320
<v Speaker 3>in Arkansas or like actually even in India, like Hey,

0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.520
<v Speaker 3>what you're doing is so cool. Thank you for being

0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.560
<v Speaker 3>so open about your life. It's entertainment, but it's also

0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.560
<v Speaker 3>give somebody a little bit of, like I don't know,

0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.400
<v Speaker 3>like a gateway to something that they would like to experience.

0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you could be someone else's Nom Malone, someone else's

0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Pam Anderson. Right, I was gonna say Jenna Jamison, but

0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.040
<v Speaker 1>we've already talked about Yeah, she's a republic comparison.

0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.199
<v Speaker 2>It really is what was what would be your moment?

0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, Okay. So for me, it's been a while

0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.040
<v Speaker 2>since I've been out of like the sex work game

0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.160
<v Speaker 2>in terms of escorting, but I do remember getting a

0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.880
<v Speaker 2>message from someone who lived in a southern state who

0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:47.360
<v Speaker 2>was recently out, like out in like he realized that

0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.600
<v Speaker 2>he was gay and he was a bigger person, and

0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.920
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I'm really struggling to find connection with

0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.120
<v Speaker 2>other gay people, and I really just like I want

0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.200
<v Speaker 2>to have the sexual experience. He'd hired this other score,

0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.240
<v Speaker 2>but basically this person was like using him for money,

0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, and praying on him and just being able

0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.720
<v Speaker 2>to like help him walk through that process and talk

0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.800
<v Speaker 2>to him on the phone and just like help him

0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.719
<v Speaker 2>realize that this person is actually not good for you

0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and they actually were just stealing your money. And then

0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.000
<v Speaker 2>like we had a I mean that relationship lasted I

0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, six or seven years really, and I had

0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.400
<v Speaker 2>a really traumatic thing happened when I was in Atlanta

0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and had a boyfriend tried to commit suicide and I

0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't know anyone there and he was there in school

0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and I called him and I was like, I'm going

0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.400
<v Speaker 2>through this thing, and he like picked me up, he

0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.600
<v Speaker 2>bought me food, he like sat with me, and it

0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.400
<v Speaker 2>was one of the sweetest things and one of like

0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the greatest things that has ever happened to me. Like,

0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you build relationships, right, Like, yeah, sex work is building

0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.040
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with someone, and like just to know that

0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.360
<v Speaker 2>this person who has paid me just for my time

0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.200
<v Speaker 2>in my conversation was willing to show up for me

0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and like one of the darkest moments of my life

0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.040
<v Speaker 2>was really it was kind of amazing to Brock. Thank you.

0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I like hearing stories like that because it it gives

0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.040
<v Speaker 3>more information to like who we are, because everybody thinks

0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that this is just like you know, you're fucking and

0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.520
<v Speaker 3>you're doing all these other things and that's all that's happening.

0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:23.360
<v Speaker 2>But there's more to this.

0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.480
<v Speaker 3>So much more to Yeah, there's so much more to it,

0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.400
<v Speaker 3>at least for me. I don't think people understand sex workers.

0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Like it's really infuriating when somebody's like assumes that my

0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.040
<v Speaker 3>job is so much fun and that's all it is,

0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.400
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, no, Actually, that day that I had

0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to film that scene, I felt really ugly, and I

0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.439
<v Speaker 3>still had to film that that day that I felt bloated,

0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I still had to take that client that day that

0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I was really exhausted and just wanted to go to bed.

0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I actually had to stay up for three hours and

0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:58.040
<v Speaker 3>make seven hundred dollars. Great, but that took energy, well

0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.720
<v Speaker 3>three hours, seven hundred. The math is not mathing for that,

0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.520
<v Speaker 3>but you know what I mean. But yeah, like, and

0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I feel like those are part of like the misconceptions.

0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.960
<v Speaker 3>So I don't feel like I have like emotional support

0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.040
<v Speaker 3>and then sometimes even within my own community, like I

0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:13.640
<v Speaker 3>enjoy what I do, but I feel like I'm a

0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.000
<v Speaker 3>little more vanilla and some of my like counterparts like.

0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm gonna stop you. Did you see vanilla girl,

0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I've seen your content.

0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Try again, well, like I get what you need as

0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a former porn editor, let me tell you I have

0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:36.840
<v Speaker 1>seen something. I have seen some things, all right, Right,

0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.640
<v Speaker 1>so maybe my bar for Vanilla there's a little more permissive.

0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.959
<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, yeah, Like I'm not saying like I'm

0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.560
<v Speaker 3>an angel, but like compared to some of these other

0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.680
<v Speaker 3>like content creators, like I like my The reason my

0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160
<v Speaker 3>subscribers have been my subscribers for so long and they

0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.960
<v Speaker 3>call me out on this anytime it doesn't happen, is

0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.640
<v Speaker 3>because of the connections that they see on camera. I

0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.480
<v Speaker 3>am very passionate my co stars, Like I have fun

0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.320
<v Speaker 3>with them. I pretend that they're my boyfriends in my head,

0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:12.679
<v Speaker 3>and like I present every hotvan on the boyfriend I meant.

0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.840
<v Speaker 1>To. But I need want more, really, I gotta jump

0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on it.

0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.240
<v Speaker 2>That's how life works. I mean, we live in New

0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.360
<v Speaker 2>York City exactly.

0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.440
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to clients in particular, I have talked

0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to folks who have encountered clients who have a certain expectation, right,

0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.280
<v Speaker 1>They're like, they want you to engage in a certain fetish,

0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a kink, to consume the same substances they are doing.

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>And you talked earlier, and you mentioned that you are

0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a sober sex worker. So what's it like sort of

0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.000
<v Speaker 1>navigating that not just with clients, but like in only

0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.320
<v Speaker 1>fans and the content that you create.

0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm very public about it, like I said, So it's

0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 3>on all my platforms. It's on my Twitter, is on

0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.000
<v Speaker 3>my Instagram, is on my rent men, is on my

0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.200
<v Speaker 3>ret mesore, It's on my Sniffies.

0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Like my sobrieties very important to me. Number one.

0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I love to have sex and I love to like

0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.320
<v Speaker 3>fawn over men, but the one thing that I would

0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.680
<v Speaker 3>never put over that is my sobriety. So I lose

0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of clients because of it, because I'm like,

0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.720
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna come here intoxicated, You're not gonna come

0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.520
<v Speaker 3>here high, and I'm not gonna get high with you.

0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna watch you get high.

0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Even though I do have a fetish for guy smoking weed,

0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.360
<v Speaker 3>but I don't do that at work. I do that

0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.480
<v Speaker 3>in my personal life. Like they can smoke and I'm like, oh,

0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.200
<v Speaker 3>you're getting high. That's so hot. Yeah, it brings me

0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.120
<v Speaker 3>back to my childhood.

0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.920
<v Speaker 1>If I like the effects, well, if they did anything,

0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I would, Oh thank you. All right, can we bring

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the weed brownies?

0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Listen? We can do the gang back now I could

0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:44.720
<v Speaker 2>get DP.

0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.560
<v Speaker 3>I was like here and like people are walking, I'm like,

0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is the weed bron really coming?

0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.760
<v Speaker 1>We are a very sober set and we are.

0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And what's interesting, you know what's funny, Like when I

0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.080
<v Speaker 2>was doing sex work, I wasn't sober, but I did

0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of draw a line around that with my clients.

0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, sex work is not safe work to begin with,

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm putting myself in some some really tricky situations,

0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.280
<v Speaker 2>sometimes flying to new cities without having to meet someone,

0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and if we're adding that level of drugs, specifically meth,

0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.040
<v Speaker 2>like who knows. And so I really just drew that

0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.760
<v Speaker 2>line because sobriety comes first, just like you were saying, like,

0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>if I don't put my sobriety first, I'm gonna lose it.

0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been around for I'll have nine years

0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.280
<v Speaker 2>very soon, and like I've seen it happen, the people

0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.560
<v Speaker 2>who put anything about their sobriety, they lose it. They

0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.000
<v Speaker 2>lose it. And I have done a lot of work

0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to build a really beautiful life for myself and I

0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.560
<v Speaker 2>have no desire to go back to where I was

0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:51.040
<v Speaker 2>nine years ago, like none whatsoever. So whatever it takes

0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it most of the time and crying

0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and crying, but I'm going to do it, you know.

0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think it's important that you mentioned. You know,

0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously there are risks and hazards involved with this line

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of work. But I think that so many people who

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't familiar with folks who actually are sex workers assume

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that that's inhumane. And I think the reality is that

0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not danger inherent to sex work. It is danger

0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that is affecting sex workers because we forced sex work

0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>into the shadows, correct. Yeah, And so it's like to

0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.119
<v Speaker 1>add to compound the risk even more because you don't

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.480
<v Speaker 1>have resources, right, you don't have a union. There are

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.880
<v Speaker 1>very few websites where you can safely find clients. It's

0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.400
<v Speaker 1>just like there's so many hurdles to your safety already

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that I can totally understand being like, oh God, I cannot.

0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I have to try this out. Yeah.

0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, when I wasn't working, she was having a whole

0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I was having a lot of fun. I mean when

0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.639
<v Speaker 2>I say fun, like it wasn't really actually fun, but

0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.000
<v Speaker 2>like the moment thought it was fun. And in the moment,

0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely thought it was fun. But it was actually

0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a disaster.

0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we are going to take a quick

0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Speaker 1>break and when we come back, we're going to ask

0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Xavier to share some tips about what to do if

0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.399
<v Speaker 1>you've decided your love.

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Does cost a thing.

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't go anywhere I can't.

0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 2>For a good time, for a good time one eight.

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Good times only good times, Good times only.

0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. That was one eight hundred good times by Jeordiana.

0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.199
<v Speaker 1>We are here Rexavier Blanco, and he and my co

0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.720
<v Speaker 1>host Chris have been dragging me for my Jlo jokes.

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:54.919
<v Speaker 2>I love j Loo.

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. She hated the joke.

0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I actually did not hate it.

0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.159
<v Speaker 1>It was okay. We've got a mixed crowd here, we

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>got a mixed crowd. In our second half of this interview,

0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.959
<v Speaker 1>we would like to talk more about practical advice for

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.480
<v Speaker 1>folks who are interested in hiring sex workers, getting into

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.440
<v Speaker 1>sex work, or leaving sex work. So what advice would

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you give to somebody who is thinking of entering sex work.

0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:21.360
<v Speaker 2>To not do it?

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean that could be a real answer.

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I recently did an interview and I was like, don't

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 3>do it. I feel like a lot of people that

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.600
<v Speaker 3>are entering into sex work now are doing it because

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.440
<v Speaker 3>of the misconception that is easy money and is quick money,

0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and it's like it's not. It's a lot of work,

0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and if you are going to do it, do your

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.680
<v Speaker 3>research and understand, like what are your boundaries. One of

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.400
<v Speaker 3>the things, one of the tips that I got very

0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.679
<v Speaker 3>early on when I was started to get clients was

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.960
<v Speaker 3>like I had all these questions like should I do this?

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:52.560
<v Speaker 2>How much it is?

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 3>And my friend was like, what do you want to

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:56.920
<v Speaker 3>do and how much do you want to pay for that?

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Like what's your boundary? Find that boundary and don't cross

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.119
<v Speaker 3>it because it's not easy, Like you're gonna be thrown

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.199
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money to do a lot of stuff

0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 3>that you might not want to do. And it's okay

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 3>to say no, Like you don't have to say yes

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 3>to every client.

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:12.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to.

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Put yourself in situations that you don't feel comfortable in.

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.200
<v Speaker 3>And it gets hard. A lot of people think like, oh,

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.639
<v Speaker 3>you're just like rolling in dough, But it's not always

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.640
<v Speaker 2>You you're not. No, you're not, you're not. I mean,

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of work, like Zaber was saying, and

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>like I was making the most money after I had

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 2>nurtured these relationships for four to five years. Yeah, right,

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a slow vern kind of yeah. Like and like

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you were saying, don't say yes to everybody, not everybody

0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:49.639
<v Speaker 2>deserves it, because it's funny.

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.919
<v Speaker 3>Because also you could make so much money early on,

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.440
<v Speaker 3>but then you're saying yes to all these like bad

0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 3>situations that burns you out and then you have to

0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 3>leave and now you're left with like this psychological trauma

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.400
<v Speaker 3>because you put yourself in situations that you actually didn't

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.520
<v Speaker 3>want to do. So, yeah, you gained all that money,

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 3>but what was the expense of that? And how much

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 3>now are you going to actually have afterwards? Also that's

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 3>another thing. Do not spend all your money at once,

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.159
<v Speaker 3>like invest into something Like for me, my investment right

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.560
<v Speaker 3>now is my future, which is in school. But like,

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.719
<v Speaker 3>all your money doesn't have to go to Balanciaga, all

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 3>your money doesn't have to go to trips to Turks

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 3>and Caicos and all these things.

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Like you can actually use that money for your future.

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Like some people might be doing this for the rest

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.280
<v Speaker 3>of their life and that's a different situation. But if

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 3>you're not, and this is just going to be a

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 3>moment in time, make sure that you're thinking about the

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:38.400
<v Speaker 3>future and like.

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>What you're going to do with that money? What does

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>a typical day look like for you? So it varies.

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's the other thing.

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Like I can literally in one night make seven grand

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 3>but not see a client for two weeks, So you

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 3>just don't know, like what, there is no consistency in

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.679
<v Speaker 3>this job. And there's also a lot of people that

0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 3>flake depending who I'm going to see in what type

0:21:58.240 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 3>of work I'm going to be doing, if I'm going

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 3>to be missile is I usually like my massaging clients

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot more than my escorting clients at times because.

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just a little easier.

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 3>You're literally just rubbing down a body.

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, prepping for a bottom is a lot and a

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 5>lot of people don't realize like what and like for me,

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 5>it's like if I have an accident, which jinkstock on wood,

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 5>there's oh this is right.

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.919
<v Speaker 3>Here with a client like that's and especially if it

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 3>was the first experience, like that's the experience they're going

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 3>to leave with, They're probably not going to hire me again.

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 3>So massaging is a lot a lot easier, But if

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be escorting, I call it the boyfriend experience.

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Like I am going I'm doing a deep dive. I'm

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 3>like making sure that my beard is trim and making

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 3>sure that I smell good. I'm making sure that whatever

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 3>this person enjoys. Like every all my clients like different

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 3>aspects of me, so I'm like suiting up for that.

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Like these glasses actually make me a lot of money.

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>A lot of my clients love to have me in

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 3>these classes, which is really funny. But it's like getting

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 3>the right wardrobe and like preparing myself mentally, like who

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 3>what character am I playing? Which Xavier Blancos am I

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 3>for this individual? Do they want me to be the

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 3>hyper sexual? Do they want me to be the more submissive?

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Do they want me to be submissive but dominant during

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 3>these times? And like it's exhausting, Like once you're done

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.479
<v Speaker 3>with a session, like a lot goes into it. Like

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 3>for me, it's like I'm not the ala carte escort,

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 3>So I'm really thinking about, like what is going to

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 3>make this individual feel special by the end of it?

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. So you mentioned you know that

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.880
<v Speaker 1>escorting is really difficult, and you've talked a lot about

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the sort of emotional work that goes into it and

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the prep. I'm curious, do you find that your work

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for OnlyFans is just as time consuming, even if it's

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like a different kind.

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Of it's even more time consuming. Like I give it

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 3>up to just influencers and content creators in general. Like

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I did a like a ten second reel that took

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 3>me twenty seven minutes to edit on the fucking treadmill,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like Jesus for ten seconds.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's what only fans.

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Like that happens with only fans, Like you're creating these trailers,

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 3>you're marketing yourself, You're following up with dms and messages,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and like this person just sent me a hundred dollars,

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 3>so I have to make sure I respond to this,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's there's a lot of moving pieces, and I'm

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a one man show. Some of these content creators that

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 3>are in the one percent and are making all these money,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 3>they have people answering back all these like dms, they

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 3>have these people editing their videos and creating content for them,

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 3>and I have to do that all by myself. And

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 3>when you're doing it for only fans, the harder aspect

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.919
<v Speaker 3>of that is that it's different platforms. So my content

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 3>that goes on Instagram can be the same that goes

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 3>on X, and then that that goes on X can

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 3>be what goes on Only Fans because then your subscribers

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:45.959
<v Speaker 3>are like, well, I might as well just be on

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 3>X because you're putting posting the same things over there.

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>So you have to really be you.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Have to think out what your strategy is and what

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 3>are you going to be portraying and how you're going

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 3>to portray it and be consistent with it.

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a lot. It's a lot of work.

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was reading an interview with someone who

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>was in the top one percent of Only Fans creators

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and they quit their full time job. The person was like,

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>how much do you make a year? And it was

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. But then he was like, yeah,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I worked sixty to eighty hours a week.

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like I don't. I mean, I've worked like

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe fifty when I've had like a couple of freelance jobscoring,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>But sixty to eighty hours a week. You're like filming,

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>You're booking people to be in scenes with you, you're

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>editing them. It's like the copy that goes with the video.

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>It's like it really is wild. It's almost like a

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>job and.

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>A half, it is.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's the reason why I say, like when people

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>are like, oh, I want to do this, is like specifically,

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 3>even with OnlyFans, I'm like, you can't delete these things

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>that you're putting up. Like I say, like, it's kind

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>of like you wanted to do tennis, like and then

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you decide to not do it anymore. Like cool, you're

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 3>not doing that anymore OnlyFans. Like, once that's public, once

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 3>people know that you did this, this is following you

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>for the rest of your life. And it's a lot

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 3>of work that people don't realize that goes into this,

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 3>and there's a.

0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Lot of planning to it.

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's very disheartening when somebody's like, yeah, I

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>want to do this because and it's like such a

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 3>fleeting thought to them. It's like, wow, you really think

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 3>that I'm just like sitting around doing nothing with my

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 3>listing record?

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god.

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could use the unedited version.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>And I wish that I wasn't investing money into camera lighting,

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 3>multiple yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, all that like it's money,

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 3>like they don't realize it.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's say I'm like looking to hire

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a sex worker for the first time, what advice would

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you give to someone?

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Ask questions and don't feel like you're being inappropriate with

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 3>asking those questions. I've gotten people asking questions and they're like,

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry with all these questions, and I'm like, no,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 3>it's totally fine, and they'll say, well, this other person

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 3>I was speaking to was very upset. I'm like, well,

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 3>maybe do's not the sex sex worker you're looking for

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 3>that like ask the questions, like you're about to get

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 3>naked with this person, You're about to be intimate with

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 3>this person. If the person you're hiring does and want

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 3>to respond to them, or it feels like there are

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>too many questions and you need these questions answer, maybe

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not the sex worker for you. Like there's a

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>plethora of us out there, which sucks for me.

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>So if you're not, but you have something special, oh

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I do what you're offering. Not a lot of people

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>are offering no at all, Like you're an experience with me.

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Not only are you gonna come, but you're gonna leave

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 3>there feeling good about yourself, Like I I'm not into humiliation.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm not into like making somebody feel that they're beneath me,

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>like this is this?

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy this?

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Like there's clients that are looking for that, and I even,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 3>like I tell them from the beginning, I'm like, I'm

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>not that person for you. I don't know how I

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 3>tried that whole fin down for a while. God, you

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 3>can make so much easy money, but like I can't

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 3>like is it easy though, well I shouldn't say easy money.

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's it's hard. Well for me, it was hard.

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, you can find a cash pick and make

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money off of them, but you have

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 3>to be that type of person that's going to be

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 3>treating them pretty shitty. And it's really funny because there's

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>also like a limit and then if you pass that limit,

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh, I'm not into this. So if you're

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 3>not sad you with it, is that going to work out?

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I'm not that person. I am not

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>dominant by any means. I can be a bossy bottom

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 3>like some people like to say, but I don't think so.

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why they call me a bossy bottom.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I just like what I like, I'm my girl.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen your contents?

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a difference.

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I'm so submissive I want to lead into

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 6>that no where, So yeah, I would say ask questions,

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 6>like ask questions.

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't be ashamed of what you're doing.

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Like some people feel like they're doing something dirty and appropriate.

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, we're two consenting.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Grown adults about to do something that we both should

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>enjoy and feel safe. And and if you don't even

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>want to feel safe in it, like that's cool, Like

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 3>you can find somebody that's for that.

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, ask a lot of questions. What does retirement

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>look like for you?

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh, retirement for me looks like like I will always

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 3>be part of the sex work industry. I do want

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>to become an advocate for it. I want to help

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>other sex workers that are either up and coming or

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.719
<v Speaker 3>are still in the industry. But I'm currently in school.

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I am going to school to become an accountant. I

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>want to get my CPA license, Like I want to

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 3>have my own firm, and I I think sky's the limit,

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I've really learned in this industry, Like you actually

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>don't have to have like tunnel vision. I know, like

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>some of the things that I want to be doing,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't have to just be like this particular thing.

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 3>So retirement for me would be somewhere with a boat

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the ocean taking emails.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I love that, Like literally, I.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Love that your fantasy was like a boat the ocean

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and emails.

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the last part, but like the email, well, because

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm still going to be doing.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Work like I want to, you know, and don't get

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the bad.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Literally, bots are expensive.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 3>It was like, well, like because it was Pamela Anderson

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Tommy Lee's video that really.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Like on the films on the boat right, Yes, is that.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Really solidified, like this is what I want to do

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>and I want to fulfill that fantasy, like I want

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 3>to be in the middle of that's another hundred grand

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>just wow, oh my god, that's all right.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 3>In my industry, there's so many people that do get

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>tunnel vision and don't think that they can be anything

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 3>else more than just a sex worker, or that sex

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>work only means one.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Single thing, like you can do so much in it.

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. I met a lot of folks when

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I was working editing that that did retire and did

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>something that was vastly different, right, folks that went into

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>public health, that went back to law school, that started

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>working at like local clinics. And it's interesting because I

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>really do think so many of the people that I

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>met that were working as either escorts or porn performers

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>taught me things about sexual health that I had never learned.

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Taught me about community locations, like really a fountain of knowledge,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>like the patients, the sort of vulnerability and the know

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>how to be able to manage their own career in

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>any kind of sex work. It's like you've really got

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to be dedicated, you've got to be knowledgeable, you've got

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to be on top of your stuff. And it's like

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 1>that's a skill set that you can apply in any career,

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you've really built a valuable skill set interfacing with

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>other people or working on your own behalf.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>When I was doing my resume recently, like sadly, like

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't put escorting on my resume or even the

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>only fans really, but I have gained so many skills

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 3>from it, Like I've learned to manage a full business,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 3>a business that pays for my rent, my bills, and

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 3>my school. That's gonna like further my future and talking

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 3>about sexual health. Like, I get so annoyed when people

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 3>find out that I'm a sex worker and they're like, oh,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>STIs and all this, and I'm like, Babe, if I

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 3>get an STI I'm not working.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And if I'm not working, I'm not making money.

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:21.479
<v Speaker 3>So while you were at the cock taking dick, I

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>had to be careful about my sexual adventures because if

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I do get something, I can't work.

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. I think a lot of

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the folks that I've met in sex work are getting

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>tested more regularly every three months rather than every six months,

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.239
<v Speaker 1>which is the same regimen of testing for when you're

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on prep. And so it's so funny that people are like, oh,

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>folks are on prep or folks who do sex workers,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>don't we responsible And it's like no, baby, We're like literally,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's really wild. So this has been really incredible. I'm

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so glad we did get to have a little fun,

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>but also like dive a little deeper into some.

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Of the topics that mean a lot to you. Yeah,

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for being here. I love you dearly.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Where can people find you?

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>You can find me on all social media platforms as

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 3>NYC Dominicano. A little tip if you're looking to get

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 3>into sex work and to be public with it, please

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 3>have the same handle across the board.

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>You want people to find you.

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 3>You do not need a different one for your Instagram,

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>your Twitter, your only fans. Don't make it hard for

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>them to find me, so you can find me NYC Dominicano.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Consistency is key, baby, that's also a

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>great screen name. I can't believe you nabbed it. It

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was actually a joke because I am Dominican. I do

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>live in New York City, but I grew up very Americanized.

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I grew up very feeling others.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, so my friend studied as a joke, like,

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, you should be NYC Dominicano because I'm

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 3>far from that.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know how to dance.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I love my culture, save my life, you know what

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe now you're any Porto Ricano.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Platforms.

0:33:59.480 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 6>No.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I bet j Low took that too. We love her.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Good night, all right, thank you, gain Xavier. We're going

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to take a break and when we come back, we're

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>playing Pump or Dump.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, It's time to play our favorite game. Here

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>cruising confessions, pump or dump. I love it.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You all know how this works. Okay, I'm going to

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>explain it again. But we it's not too complicated, right,

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>We've got pump and dump. What do those things mean.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Pump means we're living for it, we would come for it,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>we're obsessed. And dump means we will flush it away. Okay,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>We're not here to yuck your yum, but we are

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>here to dump it.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, amazing Colin Farrell Farrell Pump, I'm pumping on. I

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot about him, okay, but I know

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that he was also another celebrity sex tape that was released.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>It was good. It was short, but good, it was

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>very good. So I will give him pump for that.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:58.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll give him a big old pump. Yeah, he could

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>give me one too. I still go back to that film.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>In a pinch.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want to watch. I can't, I can't.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what I you know I haven't seen in

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a while. Exactly.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's rewatch Sex in the Cities and yes.

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you exactly.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 1>I love that. You're sure you've got a hard drive

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>with just Golden Girl episodes and the Colin feral.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Sex tape of course, naturally.

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, I just say I have a weird feeling

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>about celebrity sex tapes because I obviously watched it as

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>a teenager when LimeWire was a thing. Baby Love Her,

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the things I was downloading on LimeWire. Yeah, I feel

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>weird looking back on that as an adult because I'm like,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this was released with this person's consent.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>It never was.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel really bad. It makes me feel

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>bad thinking about it now, but I did not feel

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>about watching it when I.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Was sixteen, all right.

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Next up is the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you about before it has come out. It's

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>coming out and alive. Yes, it's a pump for me. Yeah,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Deadpool sexy. Hugh Jackman is sexy as Wolverine. Hugh Jackman

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>is sexy, not as Wolverine, So pump. I'm pumping for

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackman in a sleeveless Wolverine costume. It is. And

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that beard that was my sexual awakening in the ANSI

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>series as a child Harry superhero where you could see.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>His like forearms a beast.

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, actually, Wolverine gets a pump. Yeah, but like

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Beast gets a pump, he gets a pump for that

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>blue dick. You know what I'm saying. If we have

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>any Beast players out there, I'm like, okay, you're into it. Yeah,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I heard his big muscles. Okay, that's light on paper.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Beast is my man, and he's also a nerd. He's

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>such a nerd. He's always like quoting, like like, yes,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>he's always reading things. Oh we're coming.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Where are you, Beast?

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Where are you?

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't on this list, but he is now He's

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>a pump.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure. Great. Next up is La grand Wolf.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>The Grand Wolf. I am somewhat familiar with his work.

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I don't know who that is.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, prolific, poor performer, very tall, kind of

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>gingery hair. Okay, well I'm just really really fat. The

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>ginger grates are comfort. Oh that's all you needed. I

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>really I didn't even have to get No, you said ginger,

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yes, that's it, all right. So he

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>might be sliding into your DMS after that. Yeah, yeah,

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>be incredible.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>But do you think he likes my flavor?

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I feel like he is so prolific.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>He likes it.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He's tried every flavor of ice cream cold Stone Creamery.

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>He is. I thought you're gonna say, Baskt and Robbins

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 2>with a thirty one but no cream and the title right,

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>of course, you're good. You're so good.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I got all right. Well, that's the end of our show.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us, and I hope

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you tune into the next episode. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a production of Outspoken podcast Network from iHeart Podcasts. It's

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.720
<v Speaker 1>directed by Adam Barron, produced by Stevie Williams and Cameron Femino,

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and executive produced by Eli Martin. Cruising Confessions is presented

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>by Sniffy's, the ultimate map based cruising platform for gay,

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>by and curious.

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 2>People ready to cruise.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Check out the map at Sniffy's dot com and follow

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Sniffy's on socials at Sniffy's app.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 6>Put Joe Put Put Joe put put, Joe puts up.