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Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Oh boy, you guys,

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Speaker 1: it's another episode of nine or two on OMG. Hello ladies,

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Speaker 1: Hi you guys. Oh my gosh. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say anything or whisper. People did not thought

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Speaker 1: it was funny though Amy Amy's referencing last week. She

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Speaker 1: did a couple of whispering moments, and some of our fans,

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Speaker 1: some of our listeners, had a few opinions about it.

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Speaker 1: Very Some people love it. Notes like you get from

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Speaker 1: a producer, right, remember didn't you get notes? But you

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Speaker 1: get to get it from all of the world now.

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Speaker 1: And I listened. It was painful. I didn't like cry,

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Speaker 1: but I just was like, oh, it feels like you

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Speaker 1: get punched in the stomach. But I listen, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk less and whisper never again. Don't let the people,

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Speaker 1: don't let people, you know, hold down your light, put

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Speaker 1: out your light, and you be you because that's why

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Speaker 1: we loved you. You can't please everybody. We all know that.

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Speaker 1: You know what pleased us a lot though, and that's

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Speaker 1: important as well, because it made a smile. I always

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Speaker 1: real what pleased me this episode very different episode of nine. Yeah. First, first, first,

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to just go back for

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Speaker 1: a second. I um, after the podcast, I went back

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Speaker 1: and I rewatched the episode from last week, the part

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Speaker 1: specifically to see because, as you all know, I'm watching

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Speaker 1: this for the very first time, Tories mostly watching it.

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Speaker 1: I think you're watching all of it for the very

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Speaker 1: first time, even though you have a lot better memory

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Speaker 1: than I do about a lot of it. But um

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Speaker 1: so when Jack the car blew up, and then when

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Speaker 1: you guys told me that that's not really what happened

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Speaker 1: to Jack didn't really die, it really screw me for

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Speaker 1: a loop and I had to go back and watch it.

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Speaker 1: So I watched it, and Okay, you're right, Amy, he

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Speaker 1: I was wrong. He did not. I did not see

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Speaker 1: him get into the car, so I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: But but I don't think that if if a car

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Speaker 1: blew up like that, we would see a body or anything.

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Speaker 1: It was so like explosive and so crazy, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know. You can't see, you can't like there's nothing

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Speaker 1: see a lot of flames, steering wheel, you see the

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Speaker 1: steering back. I didn't get it. Didn't. It didn't set

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Speaker 1: gonna but I'm gonna go with I absolutely think that

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Speaker 1: Jack McKay died in that explosion. That is how I,

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Speaker 1: as a viewer, I am going to interpret it because

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Speaker 1: that's how I wanted to be um. Not that I

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Speaker 1: wanted him to die, but I you know, I want

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Speaker 1: that for the purpose of the story I in for

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Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't know, you know, in other

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Speaker 1: podcasts or interviews or whatever, there have been people saying,

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Speaker 1: oh that Chuck Rosen r ep um said that he did,

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Speaker 1: that he had left it open ended, that he didn't

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Speaker 1: have he didn't have any pardon, whether it was coming

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Speaker 1: back or not, that he had left the show, and

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Speaker 1: then different writers took it a different direction. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about it. Chuck Rosen

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Speaker 1: not there the whole ten years, No, he it it?

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Speaker 1: And then who shock over Jena. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember. Was there Eisendraff? Yes, yes, it was. Now

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Speaker 1: that you say his name, I remember, what's his name? Eisendraff? John? Eisendraff?

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Speaker 1: He loved us? Did he not care? For you. I

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Speaker 1: feel like so much sarcasm coming from Tori me. I

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Speaker 1: guess you know what it's best if we wait until

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Speaker 1: when we'll talk about Okay, I look forward. I have

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, but you have a freshwire memory

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Speaker 1: how it works. But I, like I said, it was

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Speaker 1: just a different way of of running the ship. Anybody

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Speaker 1: hard to come yes on this episode? Okay, let's just I.

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Speaker 1: We'll see our thing first and then we're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: in because there's so much to talk about. This is

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Speaker 1: season three episode The Child Is Father to the Man,

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Speaker 1: aired February. Synopsis. After Jack is killed in a mob

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Speaker 1: Jack McKay's funeral. Also, Brandon's losing street continues as his

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Speaker 1: this was it. Starting with the right out of the

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Speaker 1: be just sets up the whole episode for me and

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Speaker 1: was like goose bumps because that statement couldn't be truer.

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Speaker 1: Like when you lose someone that's that you're that close with,

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Speaker 1: nine o two, A knowe just felt like a real

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Speaker 1: I said, is this when Luke became the star of

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Speaker 1: they're not They shouldn't be their teenagers. I like to

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Speaker 1: know everything? Maybe I'll ask it like that. I don't know.

428
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't see I don't know. And somebody on

429
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: the and somebody on the instagram wrote something that I

430
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: want to ask you guys so bad because just okay, yes,

431
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: we don't have to answer. Yeah, I mean people have

432
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: all seen it. So someone on the instagram wrote, so,

433
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: you know how as this you may not know this,

434
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: but as it goes on, Dylan sees his father. He

435
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: has like sees his father, I think it graduation and

436
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: like a couple of other places where he acknowledges that.

437
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: And now I'm realizing, like was it really him or

438
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: was that his imagination? Right? Like was he seeing it

439
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: or was he so like, there are some things that

440
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: we want to talk about. Who chills but why can't

441
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: we talk about them as they come? Oh, I see

442
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: what you're saying. So at the so during the episode

443
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: of the graduation, maybe we acknowledge it. Okay, I mean

444
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I don't know. It's it's

445
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: hard to make everybody happy in this situation. But for

446
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: me too, I don't like having spoiled because then and

447
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: when I watch it, I'm like, I have a colored

448
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: experience of like what I'm watching rather than just a

449
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: true like experience. But you're right, I'm probably one of

450
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the only people in Tori. I don't know how you feel,

451
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: but I'm probably one of the old people that's never

452
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: seen an episode from beginning to end consecutively throughout the series.

453
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: So I mean that's pretty normal. It's tough to navigate

454
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: because everything that comes later. Sometimes I'm like, we have

455
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: like would you remember, because you're such an inter part

456
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: of what comes later and the reveal of things. But

457
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: I love that you don't know because you're truly watching

458
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: it for the first time like a fan. So I

459
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: love that part. But I got to say, like, what

460
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: is the percentage you guys people are rewatching it now again?

461
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: But a very small percentage of people who have never

462
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: in their lifetime see nine two and they're watching it

463
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: for the very first time. True, yes, here's the example.

464
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: But what about the new people that are watching it

465
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: for the first time like that are like, hey, I've

466
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: never seen you. You never saw the show. It's almost like, okay,

467
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: you know the movie The Sixth Cents. Yes, yeah, okay,

468
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: so there's and if somebody hasn't seen The Sixth sense,

469
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: my god, don't give that away because that's okay. But

470
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: imagine if we were doing this show and we did

471
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: one episode before before we watched The Sixth Cents or

472
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: the first time, but then if you were rewatching it,

473
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: you would watch it completely differently knowing. So that's where

474
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to navigate this, because it's like the first

475
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: to do this show for our fans that have been

476
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: so dedicated over the last thirty years, and they are

477
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: watching it because they're getting a new take on things

478
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: that they never knew about. So right, well, okay, look,

479
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: some people were upset that we talked about Shannon being

480
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: late to work supposedly allegedly, but that is the reason

481
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: they didn't get back together in this episode that we're

482
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: talking about so to me, it's how do you know that?

483
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Because the Internet told me? Then I telled her everything.

484
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: And my thing is like they were upset that we

485
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: mentioned the behind the scenes because they be negative about Shannon.

486
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: It was a fact, so also I left the behind

487
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: the scenes. So for me, I want to hear from

488
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: you because they said I don't like Shannon, and I'm

489
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: like those I like Shannon. You read it off the internet,

490
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: it must be true. Well, and I can see now

491
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: knowing that fact, which I didn't know the first time

492
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I saw the show, but knowing that fact now, when

493
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I watched this episode, you can literally see multiple mo

494
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: mons where Brenda and Dylan could have gotten back together

495
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: or hooked up or kissed or hugged or whatever I

496
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: want to say. And I also felt it. I was like,

497
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're really coming together here. That would

498
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: have been interesting. It will And as far as I'm

499
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: concerned watching it for the first time, that could steal

500
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: happen like I could, that could happen next week. They

501
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: don't ever happen. We're not rolling together again. Do they

502
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: never get back together? And I think a moment or anything,

503
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think she did it? She whispered, Oh,

504
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: she did. But I sort of love like the idea,

505
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we're having this conversation. Is like, I

506
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: love the armchair quarterbacking of it because we know things

507
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: and that makes for an interesting conversation. It's a whole

508
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: different show if we were watching it the very first

509
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: time to be on a different podcast. Apparently, goodbye guys,

510
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: nice nice work. Okay, wait, so Jenny, let me ask

511
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: you this that I might have been there, But were

512
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: you feelingly were you feeling bad for Kelly? Were you

513
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: team Brenda in the episode? I felt for everyone. I

514
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: felt for Kelly, I feel for Brenda. I wanted Brendan

515
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: and Dylan to be back together. I wanted Kelly. I

516
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: wanted Dylan to be nicer to Kelly. I wanted Kelly

517
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: to know how to comfort him like I wanted all

518
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: the things right. Although I thought so good, you felt

519
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: all of it feels this episode at the end, I

520
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: loved that moment when Dylan calls and she's asleep but

521
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: she's happy he called. It's very It's sweet and kind

522
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: of reassuring, but at the same time, I don't know

523
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. That's a good part. That's what

524
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: makes you come back for more. People. I'm definitely coming

525
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: back for more. I thought, I know. I loved this

526
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: scene where uh Dylan talks to the press and says

527
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: he is survived by his only son who loved him

528
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: very much. It was like, oh, God, don't too Oh,

529
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: I thought you meant because he's survived by Oh, he

530
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: doesn't know. I don't know. For me, it was that

531
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: was too close to home too. I couldn't. I was like,

532
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: here come the tears again. Yeah. I think this episode

533
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: is particularly especially hard on you guys because of real

534
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: life two. Yeah, but let's talk about some of the

535
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: lighter moments in the episode, because there were a few.

536
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Um First of all, I liked it when the guys

537
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: were like trying to play basketball because that's natural, that's

538
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: cute and it needed that, like friend levity stuff that

539
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: was happening. And I thought Brandon was a lot at

540
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: the WLSH house and Brandon great friend in this episode. Yeah,

541
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: he was there, but he wasn't like too in his business.

542
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: He just was. He seemed to be able to know

543
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: what to do when when it's okay to be quiet

544
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and it's okay to just be in the same room

545
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: and and then I need I need a favor, and

546
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: it's like, here's my car. Yeah, it was so weird

547
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: to do Dylan driving It's Mustang, didn't you feel. I

548
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: was like, wait, that just looks odd to me because

549
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: that's Brandon's car. I don't know, but I like to

550
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Kelly called meat loaf retro. That made me laugh, Like

551
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, meat loafs retro. Maybe that's why

552
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: whenever I make meat loaf, which I make sometimes but

553
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't make it with meat, but like everyone's like,

554
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't want me loaf? What is? What is meat loof?

555
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Got such a bad rap? It realiesn't it just is

556
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: like retro. It's like to bring it back dish like

557
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: it was from like they think of like nineteen fifties

558
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: housewives making meat loaf one dish meal. I feel like

559
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: making some meat loaf to net first reason. It has

560
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: that like connotation of like there's nothing to make, so

561
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: well make meat loaf. Like it's like, oh, really, who

562
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: can always have kids being like womp warm you guys,

563
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: you can make meat loaf healthy. I make meat loaf course,

564
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: not meat, but meat alternative and then I use keenoa

565
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: instead of like oatmeal or bread crumbs, so that super food.

566
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: You can use that as like the the stuff that

567
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: binds it. Just saying, hold the ford, who uses oatmeal

568
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: in their meat loaf? People? What did you just say?

569
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: People use bread crumbs, people use oatmeal, people use to

570
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: bind it. But two, but I never heard of oatmeal

571
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: and not just grisp me out so bad. I have

572
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: an inappropriate question, but it's not meant to be fluid.

573
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: What's in the urn? Exactly? If he burned to death

574
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: in the car, who where to get the ashes? Ashes?

575
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: And he's not in the car? What's in the hern?

576
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: I bet there's nothing in that urn? There's nothing literally,

577
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: because they showed the urn a lot of you were you?

578
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: Both of you were you? How did you react when

579
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: you suddenly see the young boy at the end and

580
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: you realize, oh, the the other person is a is

581
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old boy bawling? That was like an

582
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: eight year old boy, that was his inner child. I

583
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: think the internet says, I'll go with whatever you guys

584
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: like young, but he was really good in that moment,

585
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and he was just it was so good. It really

586
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: got me going again. I'm nationally brought everything back together

587
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh god, that was so good. So wait,

588
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: there was a weird Okay, so there's one thing behind

589
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: the thing. I was going to talk about what you know. Okay,

590
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: when Brandon and Dylan, like Dylan's just come to the

591
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Walsh's house and Brandon leaves him to finally get some rest,

592
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: and he go walks out the door and he closes

593
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: the light with his hands, so he puts his hand

594
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: on the wall to the light switch, which, for people

595
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: that don't know, we should tell him. When you're doing

596
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: a scene in your lights are supposed to change in

597
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: the room, go out, go on, whatever, and you kind

598
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: of like fake the movement of flipping the switch, but

599
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: you're that that switch does nothing. It's all handled by

600
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: the little lighting guys with their remote controls or whatever.

601
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: So you have to time it, like you have to

602
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: time when your hand goes like that too, when they

603
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: flip the switch and turn the lights on or off.

604
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was fun. And then when you're not watching,

605
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: they're not watching, they don't see you flip the switch,

606
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: and then they like you have to go back and

607
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: do it. Sometimes I think in TV shows you guys

608
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: tell me. So the light switch goes off, and again

609
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: it does get dark, but then another sort of light

610
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: comes up magically. Magically, the hallway light came up behind Brandon,

611
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: but he didn't flip that switch. You only flip the switch.

612
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: These are the little things people that I like to

613
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: look for. I also love how they say hey, d

614
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Hayby almost the whole episode more than normal. Brandon and

615
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: Villain are like, hey, Heyby, did you guys have any

616
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: favorite lines that stood out to you? Specifically, make like

617
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: a tree and leaf? Oh my god, that is my

618
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: favorite joke ever, says why don't you make like a

619
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: tree and leaf? It always makes me think back to

620
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: the future because in Back to the Future, Biff can

621
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: never get into any of those lines. Right, So, you guys,

622
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: make like a tree and get out of here, And

623
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: they're all, it's make like a tree and leave. I

624
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: like when Surge the record producer said that I hip

625
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: you hop I be you. Bob made me happy. But

626
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: the most profound line for me the whole episode was

627
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: um when when David said the thing to Dylan in

628
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: the living room before you know when you can back,

629
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: He said, the problem is you can't run away from

630
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: what's in your head, and no true words have ever

631
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: been spoken. It's true not to take a totally crazy

632
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: left turn. But I thought Donna's dress she wore to

633
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: the funeral was one of the most hepic dresses had,

634
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: like the cutouts up here. Yeah, it was appropriate for

635
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: the funeral, Yeah, but amazing, but away it looked good.

636
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: The bat scene was very poignant, Like, oh my god,

637
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: the robe in the episode. Those robes were so Shanil

638
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: robes were super in in the nineties. We all had

639
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Speaker 1: many of them. Icon It was like white with the

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Speaker 1: flowers and it's so weird. I don't remember Kelly wearing

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Speaker 1: that robe. I remember Donna having that robe, but you

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Speaker 1: had one that I had, like blue one. I think

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Speaker 1: Kelly wears it multiple times. You've worn it before. That

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Speaker 1: was Kels Donna has I thought a blue ish one

645
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Speaker 1: of different. Yeah, definitely one. We'll see it. Probably the

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Speaker 1: ropes again. Can we bring those ropes back? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: and sorry, I'm dumping into fashion. The thing on the

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Speaker 1: back of the back to sins in your shirt in

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Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, like Eclipse, It's like clip should come

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Speaker 1: back in just a little clarity because I got a

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Speaker 1: little confused. So you know, when they're leaving the house,

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Speaker 1: they're leaving Dylan's house, which, by the way, I had

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Speaker 1: to look up because it's an Altadina. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: refresh my memories, like where is that house? Okay, so, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: you're getting in your car and Jim's getting Dylan in

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Speaker 1: his like weird Lincoln town car whatever. Who is the

657
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: guy in the other car watching them? Is that guy bad?

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: Or was he FBI? Like? That confused me? And who

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Speaker 1: was the dude that came in the bathroom. I'm having

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Speaker 1: a heart that the FBI guy that came in that

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Speaker 1: that he ended up talking to with Christine. I guess

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Speaker 1: I started to get still confused. It was a little

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Speaker 1: murky and also very weird, like wide. The other question

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Speaker 1: that I saw on on the on the instagramm er

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Speaker 1: was why did they have to Why did why was

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Speaker 1: it so important to Jack to get the money out

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Speaker 1: of the trust? If he if what y'all are saying

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Speaker 1: is true and he did know that he was going

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Speaker 1: to be going into witness protection, Uh, none of it

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Speaker 1: makes sense, but a great question. That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: None of it do we ask God? I don't know,

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00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: like there's no, there's no because I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me just because he didn't know

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Speaker 1: he was going to get blown up in my mind

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't. But the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: he did get blown to Smitherings and correct And I

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Speaker 1: think if he by chance was going into witness protection,

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Speaker 1: I think he doesn't know it. So why he wants

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Speaker 1: the money, I also don't know, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he knows that if he's if by any chance he

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Speaker 1: ever went into witness protection, I don't think he knew it.

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Speaker 1: And then it was pretty how they went was that

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Speaker 1: Alvarado story? And then they're in there and like that

684
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Speaker 1: was It's a very filled episode. It was. It was, well, jeez,

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Speaker 1: we covered the crap out of that one people before

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Speaker 1: we go, though, could anybody I tried so hard to

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Speaker 1: zoom in to see what the gas prices were. I

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00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: was like, I have to know, but my TV apparently doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Isn't a touch screen because I couldn't make it get

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Speaker 1: bigger hard. I'm like, it looked like a dollar. I

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: couldn't see it. I was like, wait, you could look

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Speaker 1: up the gas prices and I wanted to see it

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Speaker 1: in that scene on the chevron sign. My last really

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Speaker 1: would have dated us my last question before we go.

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Speaker 1: So did it seem like at one point, okay, so

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Speaker 1: Christine says she was going, So my notes say Christine

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Speaker 1: was going to resign. Then I tried to figure out

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Speaker 1: the gas prices, and then I said, is he listening

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Speaker 1: to the nine O two one oh theme in the

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Speaker 1: car or something? Like? There was some music and I

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Speaker 1: think it was when he was in the car, and

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Speaker 1: it seemed like sort of a tweaked version of the

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Speaker 1: nine theme. Wow, I didn't even notice it. Maybe maybe

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00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: somebody can go back and lit up it just started

705
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: to come on that well, to me, what it was

706
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: is like they couldn't clear music or something, so they

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00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: tweaked the theme that they had the rights to. I

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00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I literally was like listening or maybe people

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Speaker 1: that made that song like made a little bit of like,

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, background music for that team exactly. So these

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Speaker 1: are my answered questions. Well, I'm glad we answered some

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Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, next week we have we haven't. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's probably gonna be another heavy episode because you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a heavy time on the show. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I can come back, but they

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Speaker 1: say it will. Uh. Next week we have they meeting us.

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Speaker 1: I guess so, and please let us know how to

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Speaker 1: navigate the whole thing. I mean, I guess we'll try

719
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: not to work. How do we know? Some people are

720
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: gonna want it one way, some people want You're never

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00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: going to please everybody. It's happened all right here. I

722
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: want it one way, you guys wanted another way. We

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00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: can't agree, so what the hell. Yeah, we don't know

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Speaker 1: what to do. Okay. Next week, Season three, episode twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Dukes Bad Boy. Oh, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: about Gamblin. Finally we're gonna Dukes last episode, right, finally, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get to know what it what's

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00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: been the deal with Brandon's gambling? Maybe? Thank goodness because I,

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00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: for one learning question not excited about that storyline. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy it's going to end on that note.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week, everybody. I love you, guys,