1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. I've got a laptop every manufacturer. I've 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: got five laptops in the shop, you know, six desktop computers. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: And you know this is the business today. The car 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: doctor brings to the deal and they tell me, oh, 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: it might not be covered unto warrants driving me up 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: a tree because it won't start at times like when 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: you put the truck in crank mode that bulb lights up. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: We know it's got powered down to the starter. And 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. 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You'll 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: find links to tune in my heart iTunes and all 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: sorts of things going on, as far as if how 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: you want to take the Car Doctor, how you want 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: to listen to it, whether it be by streaming or 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: podcast and so on, And um, we're gonna be looking 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: to change that. We're still trying to change that. That's 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: an ongoing conversation here at the Car Doctor. But um, 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: we're so busy five days a week doing cars, fixing cars, 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: and then Saturday doing a radio show. Sunday we all 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: get to it. We go and um we all tend 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: to sit on Saturday but are Sunday. But UM, you 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: get it. We're trying to make it better for you. 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of making it better, And I thought this was 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: an interesting email. It comes to me from Michael in Burgenfield, 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and um, I I took great interest in 44 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: it and um, it's an email that before we get 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: over the phones, which I know are very busy and 46 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: backed up. UM, and the email starts out, Hey, Ron, 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Michael from Burgenfield, New Jersey. I'm a long time listener 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: for listening to you over the years, and I'm just curious, 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and this is sort of a personal question. I noticed 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: that my eyesight is getting a little tough to deal with. 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Is I get older and I'm still trying to fix cars. 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm in the same age group as you. Wait a minute, 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: am I old? No, I'm not old, Tom, give me 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: the high sign. Thanks Tom. I know I could count 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: on you. And I'm just wondering what you do when 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a PC based scan tool. Do you 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: have a way around it, because it seems kind of 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: tough to keep a laptop on your knee and scan 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: it and read and things like that. What do you do? 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Michael Bourgonfield, New Jersey, Mike, I'll tell you what. Yea 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: valid points. You know what you get a little older, 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's it's you still want to be in the 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: game and you have to utilize what you've got. Take 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: a look at ease scan tools. You'll find more out 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: on the web e scan tool dot com and and 66 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: what Steve has put together and that's that's the that's 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the gentleman's name that designed this software way back when 68 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: we've been using it in the shop forever and ever. Um. 69 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: One of the nice things about Ease is their ability 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: to manipulate the data in the screen, and specifically they 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: make it so that you can, you know, customize what 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Daddy you want to see on the computer monitor, and 73 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: it's real easy to view the data. You can actually 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: view it from a distance. You can be you know, 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I've got my PC back against the wall, my laptops 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: I can have next to me, but I've got, you know, 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: my third Bay diagnostic computer up against the wall, and 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm in the car ten twelve feet away, And to 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, I'll stand on the other side 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: of the shop and depending upon which screen I'm using 81 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: in Ease and be able to see cool and temper 82 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm working on a car and Bay one and I've 83 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: got Bay three going, and i can watch the cool 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: in temp from Bay one and actually see when tem 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: pits or see when the cooling fan comes on, and 86 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: just makes life a whole lot easier than having to 87 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: be right on top of it. And the really nice 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: thing is the east Scan Tool. Did I tell you? 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Is wireless and wireless is the way to go. It's 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: they've been at it. They've been doing wireless, and I 91 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: think they do wireless better than just about anybody in 92 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: this day and age. And they were the ones that 93 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: in my mind created wireless so many years ago. But 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: get out the east Scan Tool east scan tool dot 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: com and you'll find more information for you right there. 96 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: So um, that would be my recommendation. And thanks Mike. 97 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: I appreciate the email. Let's let's kick the garage doors open. 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: I know Harry's waving at me frantically. He's like, come on, 99 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: you got calls and you've only got an hour left 100 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: this week, so let's see what we can do. Let's 101 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: go over to Steve Concord, New Hampshire, two thousand three, 102 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: Jaguar and Jaguar. Is that the right way to say that? 103 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: And uh, and we'll start what's going on Steve? So 104 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call, Thank you, sir. What's going 105 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: on here? And what's happening is I purchased the car 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: about five years ago and the first winter experienced thoughts, 107 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: especially when it was cold. When you say hard starts, Steve, 108 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: is it that it cranks or it doesn't crank? Is 109 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: this a no crank? It cranks? And I used to 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: work on the old old stuff a long time ago. 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: It hasn't a field that it's it's not sparking. But 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: then after I, after about ten or fifteen minutes of 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: trying to crank it, pull the key put it back 114 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: in because I was told that jag everything functions off 115 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the key entry into the ignition, the pump, everything goes on. 116 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: So I after doing that several times, the cobles will 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: fire up. Well, you know this is an oh three, 118 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: this is this is a Ford flavored vehicle. All right 119 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: on top of the dashboard. Is there a little red 120 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: light that blinks or is on constant depending upon vehicle? 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: If blank blank right? Okay, yeah, this is a PAT 122 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: system car. This is a perimeter anti theft system. This 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: is a forward PATS system. And what a PAT system 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: will do is it will put the vehicle into a 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: no crank condition, not a no which obviously is no start. 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: But it's not that it's gonna let it crank and 127 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: not start. So you know, listen, we gotta start all 128 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: diagnosis is where I always say, has anybody scanned the car? 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Has anybody you know approached this as Let's just see 130 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: what sort of information the car will give up before 131 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: we start going off looking for the needle in the haystack. Yes, 132 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: I have to. I've gone. I actually took it to 133 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: the jag dealer and they just want me to start 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: pumping money into it. Well, yeah, that's that's not a diagnosis. 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Um took it to another place and they they they 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: they didn't charge me. They took out the track chaft 137 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: center that didn't do it, so they put it back, 138 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the other one back in and they they're telling me 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: they think it could be the whole assembly. The assembly 140 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: because one of the failures was the security failure. Okay, 141 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: but what were the other failures? What were the other 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: fault codes that were there? Do you know? They had 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: the coils, a couple of the coils amids firing over time, 144 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: so I've replaced all eight of them. I had the 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: cartooned up last summer, and it doesn't happen very often 146 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: during the summer, only at these times of the years, 147 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: in the in the fall, winter and springy. You sound 148 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of mechanically handy, Steve, I used to work on. 149 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I had a sixty six savel that I rebuilt. All right, 150 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: So at the sixty six chavell. If you were down 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: at Dairy Queen on Friday night and the chevelle didn't 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: start and you want to get out of here because 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: your girlfriend was yelling at your come on, Steve, let's go. 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get home. My dad says, I got to 155 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: be home by eleven. It's quarter of all right, Um, 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: what would you do to that chavelle? How would you 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: diagnose that? Well, I want to if it's turning off. 158 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: If it's not, I know the battery is good. I 159 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: probably would have thresh they pulled out a screw driver 160 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: and then try to bypass some of the some of 161 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: the switches, okay, And if it cranked, and if it 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: turned over, this is a crank no start, you said, correct, correct, 163 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: So this is a crank no start. So if this 164 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: is your sixties six shavel and it crank no started, 165 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: what would you do? Would you take the air cleaner 166 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: off and look down the throat and look to see 167 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: if you've got fuel coming out of the car. Yeah, 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I do that. I can't do that with this thing 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: and that right Has anybody has anybody checked fuel pressure 170 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: on this car when it goes into a crank no start? Yes, 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the path didn't. They said, I was getting funny of pressure. 172 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Just just thinking it's the ignition switched the wiring. Okay, 173 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: So my next question is, okay, well, I've got two 174 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: things on the back of my mind. When you turn 175 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: the key to the on position but not start, you 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: see the check engine light come on? Normal right bulb 177 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: check Yeah, just normal normal condition. Right. So my question 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: is when it goes into this crank no start condition 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: and you turn the key off and turn the key 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: on and it's still crank no start, do you ever 181 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: notice it where the check engine light's not on? It's 182 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: always it's always on. So so the PCM is always awake, 183 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: all right. So they're thinking it's an ignition switch because 184 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: the ignition switch is not sending signal down to the PCM. 185 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: They're thinking it's that because it might have something to 186 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: do with the mechanism wiring, because they're getting a security failure. Okay, 187 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: So then at that point, why don't we put a 188 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: one side marker bulb in there? Why don't we just 189 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: put a bulb in the circuit, cut the wire, put 190 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: a bulb in the circuit, have the bulb stick out 191 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: from under the dash. When that circuit is energized to 192 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: send its its voltage down to the PCM, it's gonna 193 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: light up correct and the car is gonna start when 194 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the car goes into a no start condition if that 195 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: bulb is not let if that's the signal out from 196 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the ignition and switch, as long as you've got signal in, 197 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you've got a bad ignition switch. And you just proved 198 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: it's great advice. I'm gonna I'm gonna go see the 199 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: guy tomorrow, alright, go talk to him. Take a look 200 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: at the wiring diagram, see if it will tolerate the 201 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: resistance value of the bulb, and chances are it should. 202 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be the tell tale and it'll at 203 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: least give you some information on which way to go. Steve, 204 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: you know where to find me if I'm not around 205 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: and you've got more questions. Always glad to talk to you, 206 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: and thanks for being a Car Doctor listener for fifteen 207 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: years five six zero nine nine zero zero. The Car 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Doctor is coming back right after this. Welcome back. Why 209 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: don't they needing the Car Doctor happy to be here 210 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: at zero nine zero zero Car Doctor show dot com 211 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: for more information. Don't forget we're out on Facebook, run 212 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: on any in the Car Doctor. Let's get over you 213 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: know this this next caller. I love talking to Ellison 214 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Ellison from Troy, Virginia. We've been talking for I bet 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be ten twelve years now, Ellison, what 216 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, man, but not too often. I 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: didn't talk you into on this reason. I wanted to 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: talk to you one day. I wanted to get your voice. 219 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I listened to your on tape all Sundays because I 220 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: can't get you direct. Yeah, I dig it man, I uh, 221 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: and you've got you're still driving around the cornfields or 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: what's what's the story there that I can do? Because 223 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, I got that mac of degeneration leag Lebron. 224 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't get my permit renews, so I got truck 225 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: still and uh, I got two trucks and got called 226 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: this car. I just did you discussed with you as 227 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: with my daughters, and uh. I hated to Tarcket and 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: and the head guys that went on it. It's a 229 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and six and right, and the head guys 230 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: who went on and she bought a new cockos I 231 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: gave of here. I know they won't giving anything on 232 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: a tree with a blowing heads anyway, I uh, I 233 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: put an out of mode in it and then were 234 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: running five of the check in you're like kind of 235 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: was coming on and my nephew put this scan on 236 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: it and it shows. So my Christian was I put 237 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: the upstream. I'm letting a little bit. But the things 238 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: the upstream and then the down stream is behind the 239 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: cataeaguing broader. I didn't replace the downstream, and I replaced 240 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: the upstream and the light went out, and but I 241 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: don't drive it as much of I drive it about 242 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: seven eight miles about six miles since we put it on, 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: and the light is I just wanted should I have 244 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: plaised the downstream? Also? Well no, The question here becomes, well, 245 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: let's let's back up a second. So do you remember 246 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: which fault code the vehicle generated? P zero one thirty three, 247 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: P zero one thirty five, P zero one thirty six 248 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: ringing any bells? I know you're do. I asked me 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: that I meant to ask him. I meant to write 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: that damn. But the only thing he told me was 251 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: that said oxygen. Okay, so here's the deal. The old 252 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: engine had a head gas cat failure, right, and chances 253 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: are that when the head gas get failed, it pumped 254 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: coolant through the engine. Okay, do you recall did she 255 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: say anything about white smoke coming out the tailpipe? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 256 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: say I got the con boarded here to mis because 257 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: she lives sixteen miles from me in Charlesville, and she 258 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: brought another car and yeah, I drove it and we 259 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: put dope in it and they were smoking and steaming, 260 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: and they found in locked up. And see what happens 261 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: is annie freeze, oxygen sensors and anti freeze are kind 262 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: of like your relatives at Christmas. They just don't get along, 263 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: and it's, you know what, they acknowledge each other's in 264 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: the building, but they just like bumping into each other 265 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: and annoying themselves. So you know what probably took out 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: that oh two was the coolant and the head gas 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: cat failure in the coolant running through the system. So 268 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: on the basis of that, before you put this car 269 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: out to the out back on the road to service, 270 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: I would tell you you change the downstream mode two, 271 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: because depending upon how much you're going to use it 272 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and how long before the monitors run to completion, you 273 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: may not know it for another week or two, and 274 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to bring it back and do 275 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: it anyway. It's it's it's cheap insurance at this stage 276 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: of the game. Alright, And before I asked about that, 277 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: Now the car won't be ring, I can say I 278 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: don't have a gut it right now. To get some 279 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: jo to da thing, I should sell it, but I 280 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: hate to get the parts from it. But I'm acceptable 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: to that all gas. You think that would be a 282 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: benefit not driving in much versus the effer all gas? Well, no, 283 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: I would tell you just to drive it and wouldn't 284 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: worry about the gas at this point. Let me ask 285 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: you something, Ellison. What do you can if you're not 286 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna drive it? What do you to keep it for? What? 287 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, once I got I got a couple 288 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: of drivers that are driving me and I rather have 289 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: my car. Okay, Oh my god, you are you still? 290 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you something before before I 291 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: let you go. Your wife's not listening to the show 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: today is shame and whatever you are, you still hiding 293 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: the cars from her? Do she still know how many 294 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: cars you have line around the property? Oh yeah, well 295 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: she like I said, I said, I'm hoping she'd be 296 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: able to drive soon because she had a h like 297 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: a slight stroke and she can't drive. Nobody once she 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: and she was driving at person so once I actually 299 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: not only pop from him, I'm hoping, I hope my 300 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: eyes will get okay and both of us will be 301 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: back driving. Well, I'll tell you what, God bless you, 302 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: and I hope you are too for your sake, because 303 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know what you're You're a car guy, man, 304 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I've known that over the years, and uh, you know, 305 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you just you like to smell the site, the shape, 306 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the feel, the taste. You know. It's, um, you just 307 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: cars or European. I don't just up around New York City. 308 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: You're you're negative Woods and Chicaka's New Jersey. When I 309 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: went to the Outlass school, uh for a week up there, 310 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: and I know all that area and he's like an 311 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: old truck job and old trucks and stuff all my life. 312 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: So I guess it's in my blood. Yeah, it's in 313 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: your blood. Man, Hey, listen, it's been a pleasure. Let's 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: not let's not make it another two years before we 315 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: hear from you. Huh yeah, day you go. Okay, I 316 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: definitely wanted. I'm looking for my T shirt here. I say, 317 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna send me. Yeah, we'll send that on down 318 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: to you. I'd be fine. Yeah, I say that. Elliston, 319 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you you take good care. You'd be good. Let's get 320 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: over and talk to Ken in the Virgin Islands. Four 321 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: to escape and some other questions. Ken, welcome to the 322 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, Well, thanks for taking my car. I'm 323 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: just flabber gases that I got in. I uh, I 324 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: just have a couple of quick, easy questions. I'm a 325 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: retired construction field mechanic, you know, down here working on 326 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of junks basically. But this OH twelve escaped 327 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: that my wife's using. I'm concerned. I've been listening to 328 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: your podcast about the carbonization this this vehicles is going into. 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: It's well, it will be four years old and just 330 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: a month or two. And uh, it's only got ten 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. You can imagine it's a small Yeah, 332 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: but I have I have I've used in my uh 333 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: in my older vehicles. I got a couple of I 334 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: got S ten and a ninety eight Suzuki. Uh little 335 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: car that I run around in myself. But I use 336 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's an upper cylind or luber can. It's 337 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm familiar with it as a generic term. 338 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Ken is it is it specifically? Is it a brand 339 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: or a product design? Well? The brand is if you 340 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: don't mind me giving brand names, it's Lucas product. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, okay, 341 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: um yeah. I'm wondering if that, if that's going to 342 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: be any any effect on the on the on the escape, 343 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: if it's safety using that. I don't want to trip 344 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: any lights, because God knows these computers scaring the life 345 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: out of me. Yeah, no, no, no, And I don't 346 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a case of that. What I 347 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: would do is, and you know what, some of our 348 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: old habits, as old mechanics, they die hard. You know, 349 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: there's still some things I do and I have to 350 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: stop and question myself. Am I right? Am I wrong? 351 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: And you know, how do I prove to myself that 352 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: what I learned thirty five forty years ago still applies today? 353 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: And in the case of this, I would call Lucas. 354 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: Here's the vehicle I want to use. Here's the vehicle 355 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm using. Um. Can I still use this product on 356 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: this newer vehicle? And if not, what do you have 357 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: that will? Lucas makes some very fine products, and I 358 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: would tell you to do it that way. Um. But 359 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: the idea of decarbonizing the top end of the engine 360 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: absolutely positively, because there are some real issues there, especially 361 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: in a ten thousand mile vehicle. And if you don't 362 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: think it's bad now, wait till a year and a 363 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: half two years from now, once the e p A 364 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: removes all the interurgent editors from gasoline, and then it 365 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: becomes a real big problem. Hey, can't stay on the line. 366 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: We'll run the phone built up a little bit this weekend. 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Stand the line and we'll be right back. After this. 368 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm on an any of the Car Doctor. Hey, running 369 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor here, banging on the drum all 370 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: day and fixing your car, because that's what the radio 371 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: show Car Doctor is all about. We're talking to Ken 372 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: in the US Virgin Islands. Can you're still there, sir? Yes, 373 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm still here. Ry, So I would just you know, 374 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: finish up the first half our conversation, I would clearly 375 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: check with Lucas and get some type of carbon cleaning 376 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: addited into that vehicle on a regular basis, because it's 377 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: gonna help with its longevity. And I realized saying, you 378 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: know somebody that goes a year a word about longevity, 379 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: But you know what, carbon can do some pretty nasty 380 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: things in a very short period of time and mileage, 381 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: So it's good to stay on top of it. Second 382 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: part to your question, because our fuel quality is not yeah, 383 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I would think, uh, you know, I would think so. 384 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Second part to your question, Ken, Okay, So this old 385 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: stend that I, like I said, I just had to 386 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: put a clutch in it and all, and it's got that. 387 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who thought that was a great idea, 388 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: but that concentric slave cylinder is just not the greatest 389 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: idea as far as I'm concerned. When I first saw 390 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: it in the forward products, I had to figure out 391 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: what the heck is this? But having done a few 392 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: for it, and now this Chevy's got it. The bleeding 393 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: of it. When you first, you know, hook it all 394 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: back together, the pedal doesn't want to come up right, 395 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: So I've wound up having to jam a two by four, 396 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: hold the pedal down overnight and let that the cylinder 397 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: bleed back through the master. The clutch master is that 398 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the Barford? Of course? Yeah, you know what I use. See, 399 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm spoiled. I remember years ago they were selling break 400 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: bleeder syringes. Do you remember these? Well? I I worked 401 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: in a big shop in upstate and work outside of Brewster, 402 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: and we had a bleeder ball. Yeah. Well, cd s 403 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: were imagine a hypodermic like you would use for a needle, 404 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: but they were about thirty bigger. And it was the 405 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: idea that you would put break fluid into it, and 406 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: it had a little rubber booty at a right angle bend, 407 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: and then you could put like a tip on it 408 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: to attach to a bleeder. And basically what you did 409 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: was you filled it with brake fluid, You turned it 410 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: upside down, you burnt the air out of it, you 411 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: put your finger over it, you put it right on 412 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: the end of the bleeder and gave it a shot 413 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: right in and it would push the air up to 414 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: the master and fill the slave with fluid, or fill 415 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: the wheel cylinder with fluid, or fill the master with fluid. 416 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: It was the idea of a reverse bleed and it 417 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: works in this situation. It works really well. I haven't 418 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: seen them in a long long time. We used to 419 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: get them for free and then we started buying them. 420 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: We used to get them for free and master cylinders. 421 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember the I think the manufacture at the 422 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: time was ice E. I S remember their break line 423 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: back in the seventies and the eighties, and I've got 424 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: a handful of them lying around the shop and they 425 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: still work to this day. And you know what, the 426 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: old technology is the best. UM, I would probably google search. 427 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: I haven't ever, I haven't done it a long time. UM, 428 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: but I would google search break hydraulic bleeder or break 429 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: syringe bleeder. They actually had to stop making them twenty 430 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: years ago because they're so worried about civil lifiga civil 431 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: litigation and people using them to inject drugs in their 432 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: bodies and all the stupid things that people do today. Yeah, 433 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, so we've we've we've we've got to be 434 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: so correct that we uh, you know, just take something 435 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: that works and ban it from the marketplace. But you 436 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: know that's that's how I bled them. Uh, you know, 437 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: everybody's got their method, and obviously the best way is 438 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: just you know, if you have to leave it open overnight, 439 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: just tilt it one way or the other. I've I've 440 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: done some vehicles, you know where the syringes don't work 441 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: once in a while where I've raised the front or 442 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: lowered the or raised the rear and open the bleeder 443 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: and just the idea that you want air to go 444 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: uphill overnight and let it bleed out that way. But yeah, 445 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: sometimes hydraulic hydraulic clutch slave circuits are interesting to bleed 446 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: without a doubt. Yeah, you know, I'd like to talk 447 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: to the guy who decided that was a good, good 448 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: idea in the direction to go for release bearing. But anyway, 449 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: I listen to your show on the on the iPad 450 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: and the last show I was hearing you talk about 451 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the carbonization, and I'm thinking back to the old days 452 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: when we used to just lean over and open the 453 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: throttle body on the kind of carburetor and pour water down. 454 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll tell you a real quick story, 455 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: that's the best in the old days, that was the 456 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: best way to do it. And every once in a while, 457 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: for a little bit of dramatic flare, as I'm pouring 458 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: the water down the carburetor throat. I'd go into my pocket. 459 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Maybe this is where the car doctor thing came from, 460 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: and I take out an aspirin right in front of 461 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: the customer and I dropped the aspirin and I go 462 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: call me in the morning, and they just look at 463 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: me like, huh. You know he gave my car aspirin 464 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: an fixed it. And I mean we're going back years. 465 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, listen, I gotta go. Can the phones are 466 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: backed up? I hope I was helpful, and h I'm 467 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: glad to count you and the folks down there in 468 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands among our listener base. And if you 469 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: need anything, give us a shout. Let's go real quick 470 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: and talk to Mary Washington, Maine and the two thousand 471 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: nine four fusion. Mary, Welcome to the car Doctor. How 472 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: can I help? Oh? Good afternoon. UM okay, tire pressure 473 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: problem with the car this past winter of the low 474 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: tigh pressure light would come on quite frequently. And you know, 475 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: I realized that when it's you know, ten degrees below 476 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: zero that um it does tires duly lose air. My 477 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: question for you is the aftermarket deal that I bought 478 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: the tires from. UM suggests putting hydrogen in the tires. Nitrogen, nitrogen, 479 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: excuse me, nitrogen, and that would alleviate this problem. And 480 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: what is your curious what your opinion is of that 481 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: if the rims are porous or if the rims are 482 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: leaking all right around the bead. My experiences, nitrogen is 483 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: not going to solve it. A leak is a leak. 484 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: The idea, the idea of nitrogen is that it's a 485 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: more stable chemical. It's a more stable gas that it 486 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: doesn't react to temperature changes as as quickly as air does. 487 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons it was developed. And 488 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: actually where nitrogen came from again to my understanding, as 489 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: it came about as a result of racing. It was 490 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: It's big in NASCAR because when you're driving a five 491 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: mile race, you want tire pressure to remain at a constant. 492 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: It helps the cars. I think nitrogen in a consumer 493 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: vehicle and everyday vehicle, the answer to that question is 494 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,239 Speaker 1: does everybody have nitrogen available to them? No, So you know, 495 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: the first time you have to stop somewhere on the 496 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: road that doesn't have nitrogen and you put regular air 497 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: back in it, you've just ruined the concept of it. 498 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: So what's the point. That's what we thought. But we 499 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: listened to you all the time and value your opinion. 500 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: Now I understand. I appreciate that. You know, if it 501 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: was me, I would be is it just one tire 502 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: that's doing this, marry or is it all four tires? No, 503 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: it's usually m minimum of two, sometimes three. Okay. You 504 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: know back in the back in the day, it would 505 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: and it still applies today. Where we've got a tire 506 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: that's slowly losing air, rather than assume is pulled the 507 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: tire off the vehicle, put it in a water tank. 508 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Fill it up the thirty five, fill it up, the forty, 509 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: fill it up the forty five. Look for the bubbles. 510 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a small puncture somewhere. Maybe it's the bead. 511 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: But at least then you'll know if it's the bead, 512 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: if it's a puncture, fix it. If it's the bead, 513 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: then the tire has to be broken down, and there's 514 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: a there's a method called bead ceiling, the E A 515 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: D bead ceiling where they'll actually clean the corrosion off 516 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: the rim and then apply the seiler and then remount 517 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: the tire and that should solve it. In extreme cases, 518 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: the rim has to be replaced. But the fact that 519 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: this is only a six year old vehicle, chances are 520 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: this is just calcium and calcification on the rim, you 521 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: guys up right, Yeah, and that's it's very possible. It's 522 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the tire's fault, it's the rim itself. Yeah, 523 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the rim itself. Uh, particularly if you're in a part 524 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: of the country that's using a heavy salt compound to 525 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: remove you know, ice and and and slush from the road. 526 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's main. I know, I say that kind 527 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: of softly, but I I see and I read that 528 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: all the time up in Maine that they use a 529 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: heavy salt compound to clear the roads, and that tends 530 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: to beat up the rims as well. So I would 531 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: be more focused on where's it leaking from. Clean, clean 532 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: and sealed the bead if that's what it needs, and 533 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: I would stay away from nydrogen. I think it's a 534 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: waste of money. You're very welcome, Mary, you take you 535 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: take good care by by zero zero zero. The car 536 00:27:47,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Doctor's back right after this a thousand dollar car and 537 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: work enough. Welcome back. We're on any of the car 538 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: doctor here at five zero nine nine zero zero, here 539 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: to take your calls and answer your questions. Remember that 540 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: you need the car doctor during the week. Just call, 541 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: leave a message and fast, Harry. We'll call you back 542 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: and put you in the lineup for the following live 543 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: show Saturdays two to four pm Eastern Time. Let's get 544 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: over and talk to Bill in Zephyr Hills, Florida. I'm sorry, 545 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: eighty four Corvette v A cross fire. There's a cross 546 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: fire car. I remember these? Hey, Bill, how are you? 547 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Is this really an eighty four? Is it in an 548 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: eighty two and a half four? It's across fire? The 549 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: last one's mate? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Um, you know there's 550 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: no and I'm sure you're aware of everyone's been there 551 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: are no eighty three corvettes. It was it was eighty two, 552 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: eighty two and a half? Was there an eighty two? 553 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: I know there was an eighty two and a half 554 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: two and a half two right, yeah? Um, because that 555 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: was the first year V A cross fire And um, 556 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: I actually remember going to school for that car. So 557 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: let's see what I can remember from my from my 558 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: school days. So go ahead, what do you got? Okay? Uh? 559 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: I ran it all the time. I had no problem 560 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: with it. Put it in a garage because of sickness. 561 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Uh didn't get to crank it. Did the battery died? Okay? 562 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: Put her on a trickle charger probably two days at 563 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: two amp when out and cranked it. And it wants 564 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: to crank, but it seems like it runs out of fuel. 565 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: I pumped the accelerated. I can keep it running the accelerated. 566 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: It wants to shut down. Uh, sit there a second, 567 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: crank it right back up. The same deal. It just 568 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: does not want to continue running. I thought, Okay, snuckleheads, 569 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: I thought would be a fuel filter jack that sucker up. 570 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a little guy about two d seventy pounds 571 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: getting a little bit about. Yeah, that's a challenge. So 572 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: change the fuel filter and it still does the same thing. 573 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: You can give me a suggestion. I would greatly appreciate it. 574 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: It sounds like you've got spark because you're saying you 575 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: can feather it and keep it running. So what I'm 576 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, how long did it sit for Bill? Okay? 577 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Not very long. But you know, in Florida, you I 578 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: always think about bugs and insects and rodents, and you know, 579 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where where it was stored or where 580 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: it was housed. But you know, if we if we 581 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: assume it's a product of the environment, and it doesn't, 582 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't want to idle, and you can't. 583 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 1: You can't keep it going up off idole. Correct if 584 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: you if you were to hold the throttle at a 585 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: quarter quarter pedal with the car start and run, No, 586 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: it will it'll it'll love. You can increase it the 587 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: RPMs on it, and all of a sudden, it's like 588 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: it just starves out and everything shuts up on the pash. Okay, 589 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: so first things first, I'm gonna tell you, I gotta 590 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: look at fuel pressure. I want to look at fuel pressure, 591 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: and I want to look at volume. Uh and and 592 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: just because I can if I hook up a fuel 593 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: pressure gage. One of the nice things about that is too, 594 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: I can also do a fuel sample test. That's why 595 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: that's why God made Snapple bottles. You get out to 596 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: the corner store, you get a Snapple, clean it out 597 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: and and crank it over or get the vehicle to run, 598 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: depending upon how you're testing it. You should fill a 599 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: Snapple bottle the average car in twenty five seconds. That's 600 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: about a point. That's that's what the average injected car does. 601 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: So a will it have volume? Be does it have pressure? 602 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: And this should be a low pressure system if I 603 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: remember correctly, eleven to thirteen pounds comes to mind, but 604 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but yeah, it's a low pressure system. 605 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: And then I want also know, you know, by looking 606 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: at the snapple bottle, how cleans the fuel? What does 607 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: the fuel look like? The fuel should be clean, should 608 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: be right, should be. But here's the best part. If 609 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: if you can prove that the fuel is good, that 610 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: you've got pressure, volume, and condition. We know the pumps good, 611 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: we know the priming circuit is good, we know the 612 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: tank is good. All right, Then then the next thing 613 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you is, I want to get 614 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: a scan tool key on engine off. I don't care 615 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: about codes. I want to know what throttle position, sensor voltages. 616 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: I want to know what the map sensor reading is. 617 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: I want to know what cooling temperature sensor is. I 618 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: want to take a look at you know, there's three, 619 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: three or five different critical inputs that are involved in startup. 620 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: You know, think about it. When you get out of 621 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: bed in the morning, you open your eyes, how's the 622 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: room is it called? Where's the floor? Which way is up? 623 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: You want to do your morning roll call on the car? Think, think, 624 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: think mechanical in terms of the car. What's it looking 625 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: for in terms of wake up before we start playing? 626 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: What a could have should have in changing parts. Let's 627 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: do those two things and diagnose it a little bit 628 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: and give me a call back during the week, and 629 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: or give me a call back next week and we 630 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: can talk further. And then I'll tell you the story 631 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: about the water mnometer that you need to set up 632 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the crossfire. All right, now, I have one question and 633 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm done, Okay, real quick. Does does the fuel pump 634 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: have a filter in the tank? Um? I believe it does. 635 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: But then you're gonna have to explain to me why 636 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: the tanks sitting. Yes, it's gonna have a sock on 637 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: the end. Um And could the sock be contaminated? Sure, 638 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: but then you've got contaminated fuel in the tank. And 639 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: that's what taking the fuel sample is gonna tell us. 640 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: And that's why I want to see the sample. I 641 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much, You're very welcome, but you know 642 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: where to find me if you need me. Zero the 643 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: car doctors back right after this. Yeah, welcome back car doctors. Here, 644 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up. They s hour, Let's go over 645 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: to chip Appleton, Wisconsin, chip Ronandandy and how can I help? Ah, sir, 646 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you from 647 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I listened to you every Sunday morning. Uh. My wife 648 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: is always like, are you gonna go to church with 649 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: with us this Sunday? And I said yeah, right in 650 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: front of the computer listening to the car God knowledge 651 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: about you. See now you're gonna get me in trouble 652 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: with the guy upstairs. But um, that's okay him and 653 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: I haven't understand anywhere understore to your show every week. 654 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. What can I do for you? 655 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: My daughter is looking to purchase a new vehicle? Um, 656 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: what's my look at the Focus, the Cruise, the Civic, 657 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: and the Corolla. Um, they all have obviously different transmissions. 658 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: The Honda and the Toyota have the CVT transmission. I 659 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know if they even proved those or they're still 660 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of up in the air on those. Um. They 661 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: all have different motors. Some you can upgrade to a 662 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: turbo motor. I'm not sure what to get. How old 663 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: is she is this eighteen seventeen, she's twenty one, and 664 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: she put away money for a down payment. I'm really 665 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 1: proud of her, and uh she'd like to I only 666 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: want to get new because I just don't like the 667 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: way people treat their cars. I talked to people and 668 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: they say I'll ask them what kind of oil they use, 669 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: and they'll say out whatever's on sale or whatever the 670 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: oil place puts in. And it just boggles my mind. 671 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: They pay all this money for this vehicle and they 672 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: don't want to put the best the industry has to offer. 673 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: You drive, you try past the Starbucks and there's eight 674 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: to ten cars deep waiting for their five six dollar chip. 675 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 1: You would get along well with us at the shop. 676 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Does it have to 677 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: be a vehicle or can it be a small suv? 678 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, I, I know you really like the Ford Escape, 679 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think she can afford that at this point. 680 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna narrow the field real quick. I'm gonna 681 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: say no to the Cruise all right, just because I'm 682 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: seeing some issues with GM at the present time and 683 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: a half of the past year and a half, two years. Um, 684 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no to Honda because I think the 685 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: company has a bad attitude. You know, hand does that 686 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: car company that doesn't think they make any mistakes. And 687 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, let's just go drive the Toyota. Let's 688 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: go drive the Ford. What fits her better. Here's the 689 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: key thing to remember, because I don't think you can 690 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: go wrong with either the Ford or the Toyota. Um 691 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: drive the car during the day, drive the car at night. 692 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Cars developed different different personalities between daytime and nighttime, and 693 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: that'll be the key. I'm sorry, Chip, the clock is 694 00:36:53,200 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna cut me short. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 695 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: She lost spo