1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh, it is Wednesday. It is thanks Giving Eve. Joel Klatt, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell Blazing five. Yeah, Thanksgiving, Blazing five. In one hour, 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: we are live a little chili today in Chicago, perfect 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: winter football weather. It is the Herd wherever you may 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening. So tomorrow Lion's 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Host of Packers That'll make the Blazing five Kansas City 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: at Dallas make had forty five million viewers. That's at 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: four thirty Eastern. And I was thinking about this this morning. Actually, 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: it's the first time in a long time that I'd 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: rather talk about the Cowboys on field product. It's actually underrated. 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: In previous years, we talked about Mike McCarthy's job security, 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons podcast, Dak's contract no Cowboys offense number one 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The on field product, it's good. Devonte Williams, 23 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: top ten running back, Dak PFF's number two quarterback, two 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: star receivers, one of the top third down offenses. The 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: offensive line is young, getting better, has surrendered the fourth 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: view ast sacks. One of the better three and out teams, 27 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: fifth Sewest. 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: In the league. 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Good thing about that. And with a new kickoff rule 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: and the field goal range of Brandon Aubrey, they're like 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: two twelve yard plays from points. They're scoring on almost 32 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: half of their drives. Add this to the best two 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: minute offense in the league. Add this, knew the best 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league against the Blitz. It's not Matt Stafford. 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: It's not Josh Allen, it's not Patrick Mahomes, it's not 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, it's not Lamar Jackson. It's Dak Prescott. Great 37 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: against the Blitz. Top three in pressures running the ball, 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: two star receivers, best field goal kicker in the sport. 39 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Made aggressive trades to solve their defense. Their defense was 40 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: the second worst in the league. Then they made those 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark Quinn Williams deals. You know, the last two weeks. 42 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: It's the seventh best defense, and go ask Philadelphia. You 43 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: can't run on them. For years, I was a cowboy critic, 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people in my business that 45 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, they'll hammer Dallas because they know it gets clicked. 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: I hammered Dallas because I thought they were poorly run. 47 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: But you can't hammer them now, and they may not 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: beat Kansas City tomorrow. For two first round picks, aggressive trades. 49 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Number one offense in the NFL, best two minute drill, 50 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: best against the Blitz, top ten run game, offensive line, 51 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: not great in pass protection, but emerging is a much 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: better run offensive line. 53 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: I know. 54 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: I didn't think shot number is gonna work. I thought 55 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: it was a week week higher. It's the best I've 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: seen dak in a long time. So Kansas City probably 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: the better team. Home teams do very well on Thanksgiving 58 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: either way. I think Dallas against Kansas City tomorrow it's 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: a real game, and I would not have said that 60 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: a year ago. Right, last five years, how many times 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City Dallas and you think you know Dallas could 62 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: win this thing. Well, Dallas's offense right now is a 63 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: lot better than can the cities, and it's not particularly close. 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Here's dak On facing the Chiefs. 65 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: We got to win every game at this point, and 66 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: the Philly game doesn't mean anything right now. Nothing that's 67 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: happened up to this point really means anything other than 68 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: it's put us in the position to be must win games. 69 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: We've got the guys, we've got the plan, we've got 70 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: the process intact, and we're gonna give it our best 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: and feel very confident in us. 72 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: So, speaking of quarterback, the Bears toughest game of the 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: year at Philadelphia Eagles off a loss, will be in 74 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: a surly mood. This is something I've given a lot 75 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: of thought, and I talked about it for about a 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: minute ninety seconds yesterday at the end of the show. 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: There's a lot of criticism from people on the internet 78 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: that don't like the fact that, like Caleb Williams is 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: completing like fifty nine and a half percent of his throws. 80 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: And I've always said, like the line is sixty two 81 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and a half minimum. So this year, you can look 82 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: at some of these stats on a passer rating, It's 83 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: completion percentage is very low. Here's some other numbers. Four 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: to no in November, eight touchdowns, no picks, and the 85 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Bears are the only team in the NFL to average 86 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: thirty points a game and four hundred total yards in November. 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I like those numbers. But here's the thing. What's happening, 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: And this is why I give this so much thought, 89 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: and this is my favorite part about sports, the constant changes. 90 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I talked about this the other day that college basketball 91 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: was unwatchable for twenty years and then about three years 92 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: ago with the NIL and a lot of players staying 93 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: for one more year that would be second round picks 94 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and all that NIL money buying. Europe's some of their 95 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: best twenty players college basketball the last two years, excellent 96 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the draft this year the top three or four players 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: are all stars, all of them. So and here's the thing. 98 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: What's happening with the NFL is that mobility is no 99 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: longer a luxury. It's a requirement. Because right now the 100 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: young offensive coaches are using motion double what they did 101 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: ten years ago. There's just more smart, clever offensive coaches. 102 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you can run your way to 103 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: a super Bowl at quarterback. Lamar Jackson just struggled to 104 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: win games in the playoffs. But it's like how I 105 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: viewed college I would recommend sending your kids to college. 106 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: But the only thing in twenty twenty five guaranteed about 107 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: sending your kids to college, they'll come out of it 108 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: with massive college debt. AI the phone, Google. There is 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: so much information out there now that you don't have 110 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: to sit through a college lecture and pay seventy four 111 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year to attain I still think it's 112 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: the place to go, but it's not the be all, 113 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: end all. And that's how I look about Caleb's completion percentage. Yeah, 114 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: i'd like him right now, he's like fifty nine and 115 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: a half. I'd like him to get up to sixty 116 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: one and a half. But do you know the last 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks to lead the NFL in completion percentage last 118 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: three years? Zero playoff wins, the days of Drew Brees, 119 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: no throw it downfield, a lot of motion, get out 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: of the pocket. CJ. Stroud below average completion percentage last 121 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: two years, he's won playoff games. So I know it matters. 122 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: I understand that it matters to some degree. But we 123 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: were talking about this this morning as a staff is 124 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: that I remember when I was younger, high school and 125 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: college memorization was a really cool thing. I'd memorize the 126 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: back of baseball cards. I'd memorize sports stats and then 127 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: google happened. Sorry, he'd take me thirty seconds. I'll find 128 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the answer. So John Elway, he was ahead of the curve. 129 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: He won two Super Bowls. In both playoff runs, he 130 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: completed fifty five percent of his throws. So RG three 131 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: talked about this the other day. I would like k 132 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: Live to get a little better, like sixty one percent, 133 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: but I'd be good there. I don't need sixty five percent. 134 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Here's RG III. 135 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: Accuracy is a myth, all right. Accuracy to me is 136 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: always dependent upon where the defense is and what you're 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: trying to get the receiver to do. So where I 138 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: think his sixty one percent completion percentage comes from is 139 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: more so the fact that he is willing to take 140 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: more chances to have big plays occur, which drives down 141 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 5: his completion percentage. Do you want a guy that's going 142 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 5: to be a checkdown Charlie. Do you want a guy 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: that is not going to take those risks deep down 144 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 5: the field because he's afraid to make mistakes. 145 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that's who Caleb Williams is. 146 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he has. Listen, it's great that 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Drake may can run and complete seventy one percent of 148 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: his throws at this point. Drake made's better than Kayleb Williams, 149 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: and nobody's disagreeing with that. But again, mobility is it's 150 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: not a luxury, it is a requirement. I mean, Jared 151 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Goff that is that is old school now and he's 152 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: still in the prime of his career. That's old school. 153 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: He didn't move. I mean Stafford really old school, all right, 154 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: j Mack. We got a lot of stuff today, college 155 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: football playoffs out. B Yu's not happy, Miami's really mad. 156 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Belichick rumors, they're interesting. Belichick I do not but I 157 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: do not buy the Belichick stuff at all at all, 158 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: And I'll explain why. But you went to the Lakers 159 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: Clippers last night? How was Luca? 160 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 6: Luca was phenomenal. You know, I think he had twenty 161 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 6: four points in the first quarter. He really hates the Clippers, Yeah, 162 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 6: does not like them, dating back to his days in Dallas. 163 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 6: Was talking trash to them a lot. I noticed Kawhi Leonard. 164 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 6: I don't know if anybody caught this. He like didn't 165 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: play the final like six minutes. You know, weird close game. 166 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: Afterward he's talking about, well, we need more talent. We 167 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 6: got to get the right rotations in Clippers seemed to 168 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 6: be falling apart at the scenes. Couldn't happen to a 169 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 6: nicer group of guys. 170 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 7: Of the Clippers. Now, I do know some guys on 171 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 7: the coaching staff. 172 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: I don't want them to lose their jobs, but yeah, kawhi, 173 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 6: James Harden feels like it's over. 174 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 175 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 176 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: and noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 177 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 7: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 179 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 6: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 180 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 6: with Jason McIntyre. 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There's a lot to talk about with Joel Klatt. 194 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't like the Lane Kiffen manipulation of Old Miss. 195 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: And my take is always reputations in college football are 196 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: based on one thing. Are you available? Are you a 197 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: good coach? Two things? Are you available? Can you coach? 198 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: You'll get a job. It was Brian Kelly Ever in 199 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: Charms School. He got the LSU gig. I mean it 200 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: felt so weird. You got it LSU Florida. Yeah, we'll 201 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: take that old Miss guy. I mean not like Lane. 202 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Kevin had the best reputation and before LSU was interested, 203 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: lanecln coach. He's really good. It's an offensive sport. Now, 204 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: all right, here we go, sixteen percent in the year, 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: blazing five on a Wednesday. Let's go shot. 206 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 8: Let's blaze it up up. It's Collins Blazon fuck packers 207 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 8: at Lions. Listen to good teas tea. I'm gonna take 208 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 8: the home team on Thanksgiving. Historically, home teams do well. 209 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 8: Lions minus two and a half is my side. They've 210 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 8: won six other last eight against Green Bay. They match 211 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 8: up well, and since. 212 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell took over play calling, Detroit leads the NFL 213 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: in the last three weeks in yards per play. It's 214 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: a different offense with Dan. Their defense generally pretty good 215 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: at home the Packers. Their three road wins have come 216 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: against Arizona, Pittsburgh and the Giants. Let's slow down, but 217 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: here's more troubling, Jordan Love. Since Tucker Craft got hurt, 218 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: fewer than two hundred passing yards, the team's averaging nineteen points. 219 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Two good teams. I'll take Detroit to win and cover 220 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty four. Forty nine ers at Browns. 221 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I love this line. I'll take Cleveland plus six and 222 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: a half first of all, the Browns at home. Excellent 223 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: defense and probably the most underrated roster in the league. 224 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett has thirteen sacks the last month. No other 225 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: player has more than thirteen the entire season. Good luck 226 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: Niners brought pretty multiple interceptions in four of his last 227 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: five starts, and it's gonna be windy and snowy conditions. 228 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: He has struggled with ball security in crappy weather. I 229 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: also think this team is overly reliant on Christian McCaffrey. 230 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: How much gas does Christian have in the tank? I 231 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: think we saw enough from Shadur. I'm gonna take a 232 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: close game either way. Let's say the Niners win late, 233 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: but I like the points. Twenty four to twenty. San 234 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Francisco takes six and a half. Saint said Dolphins. I 235 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: actually really like the Dolphins here. They're coming off of buye. 236 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: They've won three out of their last four games. Credit 237 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. They're playing hard. They're running the ball to 238 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: a back to back games over seventy percent completion percentage. 239 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: Miami got rid of their GM. They didn't lose their fight, 240 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: they didn't lose their passion. The defense back to back 241 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: games has played well. I like Miami a lot in 242 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: this spot. New Orleans probably the worst offense in the league, 243 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: held under twenty points in six stra eight games. Again, 244 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: smart offensive coach at home off of by against a 245 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: tire fire. I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win, and 246 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins playing pretty darn well to cover. Thirty 247 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: three to twenty three. 248 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 7: Cardinals said Buccaneers. 249 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: The buck stops here. Tampa gets Bucky Irving and Chris 250 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Godwin back officially for multiple snaps. I like Tampa to 251 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: win and cover. Listen, they're not playing well with the 252 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: average twenty seven a game at home, and you know 253 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: the losses were to Patriots, Bills, Rams. Those are good teams. 254 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Bucky Irving's back, Chris Godwin played limited snaps last week. 255 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: He's ready to go. And the Cardinals one in eight 256 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: since Week three. Arizona's got some quit in them. We're 257 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: scoring defense over the last three weeks. Not a lot 258 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: here to like. Buccaneers easier opponent at home, win and 259 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: cover the spread. I like Tampa twenty seven to twenty. 260 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Vikings at Seahawks the Lions. The line now is not 261 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: the best of the line nine and a half, ten 262 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: and a half. I'll take Seattle. They've out gained ten 263 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: straight opponents. They played like garbage in the second half. Defensively, 264 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: they still win last week against Tennessee fewest sacks allowed 265 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: on offense, so Brian Flores can blitz all he wants. 266 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: They're a really high end offensive team with a force 267 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: most sacks in the league. They're at home of kind 268 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: of a cruddy defensive performance. The Vikings offense most turnovers 269 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're starting an undrafted rookie. They've been 270 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: held under twenty points in four of their last five games. 271 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: There's nothing about Minnesota outside of their coaches that I 272 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: really like. Right now, Seattle is gonna win. It's in 273 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest thirty to thirteen. Actually, and I don't 274 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say this because twice this year I didn't 275 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: love the numbers and went four and one. Like I 276 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: like my picks, Lions, Dolphins, Seattle and Tampa as favorites. 277 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Cleveland plus the points. J Max Grimacing 278 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: will find his picks in about two hours. His picks 279 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: in two hours. Joel Klatt will be calling Ohio State 280 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: and Michigan Saturday at newt Eastern on Fox. So last year, 281 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: even though I really admire Ryan Day and like him 282 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot, I think he's a great football coach. I 283 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: did think he outthought the room. I think he'd been 284 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: pushed around by Michigan and in the Midwest there's a 285 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: different kind of stylistic approach, and he's like, we're gonna 286 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: punch Michigan in the mouth, and it's like throw the ball. 287 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: You got great players just just play your game. And 288 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: I think he played Michigan's game, you know, fooled around, 289 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: played with his food a little bit, and it caught him. 290 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: They got a little tight late. I think if at 291 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: least Carnell Tate can play, I think Ohio State is 292 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the significantly better team here. Do you believe that? 293 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Well? 294 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 9: I mean, yes, they're the better team, and that's why 295 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 9: the spread is where it was. But they were I 296 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 9: would think better by a wider margin a year ago. 297 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 9: I mean, they were twenty point favorites a year ago. 298 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: You know. 299 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 9: So to your point, they got sucked into a game 300 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 9: that was Michigan's game. I firmly believe. I think Will 301 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 9: Howard got banged up early in that game last year. 302 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 9: I firmly believe that that Ryan and his coaching staff 303 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 9: felt like a field goal would win the game because 304 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 9: they didn't feel like Michigan, with their quarterback play, was 305 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 9: going to be able to score on their defense. 306 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: And so here's Ohio State. 307 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 9: They get into the red zone five times last year 308 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 9: and come away with ten total points. 309 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: That was the game. 310 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 9: Two missfield goals and interception in the red zone. So 311 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 9: those mistakes are what ultimately cost them the game, and 312 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 9: they could have played the exact same style. 313 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: Now, I think. 314 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 9: What they learned from that was what they then put 315 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 9: into action for the playoff. And Colin, you and I 316 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 9: both know that that Buckeye team in the playoff was 317 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 9: a different team and they were aggressive down the field. 318 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 9: You look at what they did early in that game 319 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 9: against Tennessee at home in the first round. They took 320 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 9: shots to Jeremiah Smith. They used Smith early and often 321 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 9: against Oregon where they were routing them in the first 322 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 9: half of that Rose Bowl. And those are the lessons 323 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 9: that I think need to come into play this week 324 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 9: for Ohio State. Be themselves, attack, attack, down the field, 325 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 9: and obviously the health of those wide receivers is a 326 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 9: bit in question. I remain optimistic that they'll both be 327 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 9: on the field. I think their effectiveness is more the 328 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 9: question than their availability. 329 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: I think Smith will be on the field. I think 330 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: Tate will be on the field. 331 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 9: But are they one hundred percent Can they attack those 332 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 9: safeties of Michigan down the field and cause them some 333 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 9: level of threat. I think that's really where the game 334 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 9: is won and loss for Ohio State. 335 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: So listen, I think Notre Dame is better than Miami now, 336 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: and I think college football is about thirty to thirty 337 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: five percent NFL now. September just doesn't matter like it 338 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: used to. I said this before the Ohio State Texas game. 339 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: If it's close, I don't care who wins. I said 340 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: it about Oregon Ohio State the year before. If it's close, 341 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They've scheduled it. I'm proud of both 342 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: schools for scheduling it. You step up to the table. 343 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I love that. My biggest knock on college football has 344 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: always been a lack of people willing to play, you know, 345 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: go to Columbus out of conference, or go to normand Oklahoma. 346 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: So like my feeling is Notre Dame is better than 347 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Mission Miami today, and ugly losses are really that's one 348 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: thing that usually the people on these tables and these 349 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: boards get right. You can't lose to unranked teams if 350 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you're a top five to ten team. So I'm okay 351 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: with a much improved team by an inch better than Miami. 352 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: Miami still has to be pitt But I know you 353 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: are probably bothered deeply about the current rankings that has 354 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: Notre Dame over. 355 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 9: I'm not bothered. I think listen. I think that two 356 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 9: things can be true a once. You know, if the 357 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 9: committee's objective is just to give us the best teams, 358 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 9: and they ask themselves in the room, who wins on 359 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 9: a neutral site this week, yeah, I'd pick Notre Dame. 360 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: You know. 361 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 9: So, like in that respect, do I disagree with the ranking. No, 362 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 9: But the committee is setting themselves up for a bit 363 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 9: of a trap, and that trap is the head to 364 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 9: head match up against Miami. Because if we're not honoring 365 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 9: games on the field, then what are we doing? 366 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: You know? 367 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 9: Then why are we playing them? Then let's just sit 368 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 9: there and have a beauty pageant and and look at 369 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 9: the recruiting rankings and you know, look at the the 370 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 9: rosters and the way that they're constructed and how many 371 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 9: stars each year. 372 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 8: You know. 373 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 9: So I don't want to get into a beauty pageant either. 374 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 9: There's also another trap that this committee is falling into, 375 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 9: and it's not honoring those non conference games that you 376 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 9: just talked about. Now, I do want to clarify just 377 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 9: something really quickly, because the Miami Notre Dame game is 378 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 9: part of the ACC scheduling agreement that Notre Dame has, 379 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 9: So that's a little bit out of their control. What 380 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 9: I would say is more impressive is that they also 381 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 9: scheduled Texas A and m Well, you've got this team 382 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 9: in Michigan that's sitting there at fifteen and they're in 383 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 9: like the bottom of the two loss teams, and yet 384 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 9: one of their losses is at Oklahoma. They scheduled that game, 385 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 9: did not buy out of that game, and played it, 386 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 9: and the committee is not honoring that right now. 387 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: I see. 388 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 9: I think that they should view Michigan's resume more favorably 389 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 9: because of that non conference matchup against Oklahoma. So the 390 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 9: trap that the committee is setting themselves right now is 391 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 9: if they're just going to go by eye test and say, well, 392 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 9: who wins on a neutral site, you know, this weekend, 393 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 9: then they're not going to honor head to head and 394 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 9: they're also going to devalue non conference blue blood opponents, 395 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 9: which is bad for the sport moving forward. 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: Totally agree. 397 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 9: It's a tough It's a tough position because again I 398 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 9: don't disagree with the ranking, but it also speaks to 399 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 9: kind of the brokenness of the nature of this thing. 400 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 9: I don't think that we should have a selection based playoff. 401 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 9: I think we should have an access based playoff, so 402 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 9: we can remove some of this ambiguity and the problems 403 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 9: that exist in trying to place and ranked teams in 404 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 9: this fashion. 405 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: So I try not to be a hypocrite. And in 406 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: my career as America's honesty broker, I have bounced around 407 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: the country for better jobs. Okay, So I'm not going 408 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: to be a hypocrite when somebody is highly mobile in 409 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: their career. So everybody's like, hey, Lane Kiffin is going 410 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: to tarnish his reputation. His reputation has always been you 411 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: have a job, I'll travel. You can fire me in 412 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: a tarmac. I'll leave you on one. 413 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: I mean he was fired on a tarmac. 414 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Yes, So my take is Brian Kelly never went to 415 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: charm school. LSU was like, he's available, let's go get him. 416 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: College football has become more NFL. It's cutthroat. LSU was like, 417 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: what do we care about Old Miss? He's the best 418 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: coach of the country. I don't think it hurt Exlaine Kiffin. 419 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Old Miss because I really do 420 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: think I don't think they're as good as Ohio State. 421 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: I think they could beat Oregon. I think they could 422 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: beat Georgia. I think they could beat Indiana maybe, so 423 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm more bothered that I selfishly I want to see 424 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: Old Miss in the playoff with Kiffin because I think 425 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: they can beat everybody except Ohio State. That's my problem, 426 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: not the somebody wants me. I'm gonna go. 427 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay. 428 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 9: So there's like, I think eight things that you just 429 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 9: said that I disagree with. I'm trying to remember all 430 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 9: of them. Let me try my best. First of all, 431 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 9: let me ask you a question. In all of your movement, 432 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 9: and you did. You've moved around, You've worked at multiple 433 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 9: networks and done different things, and more power to you. 434 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 9: That agency is great for you and your family, and 435 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 9: I don't begrudge that. Yeah, at any point, did you 436 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 9: leave in the middle of a contract? 437 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: I left early, and uh yeah, six months early. I 438 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: also started negotiating with another company, two companies, nine months 439 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: before I was allowed to. 440 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 9: Okay, So you're just revealing your character to all of 441 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 9: America here. I would I would say I would say 442 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 9: this about Lane. Lane has been given a lot of 443 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 9: cover and I like Lane, and he's very good for 444 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 9: college football. He's great for college football. Yes, and Colin 445 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 9: he is a very good coach. He's not one of 446 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 9: the best coaches in America. Though he has not been 447 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 9: to a playoff. He happens to be a big fish 448 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 9: right now in a small pond, and it's advantageous for 449 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 9: him because of that. There's big jobs open and a 450 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 9: really weak class of coaches or pool of coaches. 451 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: That are candidates. 452 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 9: Part of the reason why there is a weak pool 453 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 9: of candidates is because there are other coaches that are 454 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 9: unwilling to do what Lane is doing, which is leave 455 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 9: a team in the middle of a playoff run. That 456 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 9: cannot be overstated. You see, he's wanting to lament and 457 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 9: those that run cover for him, you know, want to 458 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 9: lament the calendar. And while they are correct, the calendar 459 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 9: is clearly broken in college football. We do thirty minutes 460 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 9: on the calendar right here. I agree with that take. 461 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 9: The problem is is that it's the same calendar for 462 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 9: Dan Lanning at Oregon. It's the same calendar for Kurt 463 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 9: Signetti at Indiana, and Mike Elko at Texas A and 464 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 9: m and Rhet Lashley at SMU, and yet they with 465 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 9: their agency, chose to stay where they're at okay and 466 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 9: stay within their playoff run. And you could make a 467 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 9: strong argument that Rhet Lashley and Kurt Signetti could be 468 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 9: looking at their spots Indiana and SMU and think to themselves, 469 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what, Grass is probably greener at Florida 470 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 9: or LSU. Meanwhile, Lane has turned Ole Miss into a 471 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 9: premiere program in the SEC. I would make the argument 472 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 9: he doesn't have to leave. This is not college football 473 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 9: of ten years ago where you have to be at 474 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 9: one of three or four places in order to. 475 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: Compete for and win a national championship. 476 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: That's fair. 477 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: He doesn't have to leave. 478 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 9: And my last point would just be as a coach, 479 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 9: when you stand in front of your players, your currency 480 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 9: is your credibility, and your credibility with those players is 481 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 9: tied directly to your character. The only thing they care 482 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 9: about is how much you care about them. And if 483 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 9: he does this and he leaves, which it looks like 484 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 9: he's going to it looks like he's going to LSU, 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 9: he will destroy his credibility in front of what team 486 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 9: that he stands in front of. Can he say like, hey, 487 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 9: commit to me and choose you know, lay down yourself 488 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 9: and let's commit to something bigger than ourselves and let's 489 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 9: go achieve something great in the back of their minds 490 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 9: are going to be like, well, what if something better 491 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 9: pops up for you, Lane, what the Dallas Cowboys call? 492 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 9: Are you going to leave us in the middle of 493 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 9: a playoff run? Because he's the play caller at Ole Miss. 494 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 9: He decimates that program and that offense and their opportunity 495 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 9: to win at the top level if he leaves. So 496 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 9: that's all I would say is listen. I like Lane, 497 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 9: I think he's great for this sport. But this excuse 498 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 9: that the calendar is forcing him into this decision is wrong. 499 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 9: The calendar is the same for all the other coaches 500 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 9: in the country which have said that they will stay 501 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 9: and committed to the places that they've been in. He's 502 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 9: doing a disservice to the players he's coaching now currently, 503 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 9: and I feel bad for him. My only disagreement there 504 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 9: is you say coaches standing in front of players and 505 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 9: asks for commitment. Now, in twenty twenty five, coaches stand 506 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 9: in front of players with envelopes full of cash and 507 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 9: hand it to them, because that's what the sport is. 508 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: It has become more transactional. 509 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 9: I will give you that, and this is not an 510 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 9: easy scenario. 511 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: I will give you that. 512 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 9: But at the end of the day. You know, he's 513 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 9: the one that has to stand and look in front 514 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 9: of the mirror. And if he does this, by the way, 515 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 9: he will be authoring one of what was now the 516 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 9: five messiest exits in football coaching history. Al Davis with 517 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 9: the overhead projector Tennessee leaves in the middle of the night, 518 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 9: they riot their burning couches, throwing them outside of the balconies. 519 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 9: Mack at USC. Remember Nick Saban didn't want to deal 520 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 9: with Lane waftling back and forth about the FA you job, 521 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 9: so he said beat it before the National Championship game. 522 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 9: Didn't even let him call plays in the National Championship Game. 523 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 9: So I don't like this has been a trend for him. 524 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 9: Yeah no, no, it's listen. 525 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: I've said I I wouldn't do all this stuff. I uh, 526 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: you know, I even have friends at the old place. 527 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 528 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't like sloppy exits. I don't like it, but 529 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: I think college football needs to create I mean, you 530 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: can't go rob the chiefs of Andy Reid during the playoffs. 531 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: College football has needed a bizarre oh yeahs. 532 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 9: And that's why I started with that. Like, I agree, 533 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 9: the calendar has broken. We need to fix that. There's 534 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 9: no doubt. I just don't want that to run cover 535 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 9: for what I feel like is a poor decision. Okay, 536 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 9: so let me defend Lincoln Riley. 537 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: First. 538 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: If he beats UCLA and wins a bowl game, they 539 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: go eleven and three, losing. Two of their three losses 540 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: are at Notre Dame of at Oregon. I'm sorry, but 541 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: that's not a bad season. When they return almost all 542 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: of their top players. I mean, they really have a 543 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: good recruiting class. They're all line, their D line come back. 544 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: If they beat UCLA should and if they win a 545 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: bowl game over a whoever, Utah, something like that. The 546 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: downside is I think I can also say this four 547 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: years in, when they play the best teams, the special 548 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: teams are often a disaster and the defense is mid 549 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: and I'm being kind with mid. What are they? And 550 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I just think four years in, Yeah, the offense was 551 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: clever with Lincoln the first day was there. That's never changed. 552 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: But the defense and special teams in big games feels 553 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: below average. What are they? 554 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 9: Is that a fair criticism? I think it's totally fair. 555 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 9: I think that they're better than what they were last year. 556 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 9: Certainly they've gone from losing those close games to winning 557 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 9: a lot of those close games. 558 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: But at the top end. 559 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 9: They're not competing like you hope they would compete when 560 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 9: they face a team like Notre Dame or Oregon, you know, 561 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 9: and I think they would lamit not closing out that 562 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 9: Illinois game, which they had the lead late in that 563 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 9: Illinois game on the road and they couldn't stop the 564 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 9: They couldn't stop the run in that game. They've got 565 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 9: to get better, more physical, and more stout in the 566 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 9: middle of their defense. The defensive line is young and 567 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 9: will be better next year. They're very good. I think 568 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 9: in the coming years on the defensive line, they've got 569 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 9: to get better at linebacker and more stout. 570 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: Ye. 571 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 9: Actually, that is a in an area of weakness that it 572 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 9: has to turn around now with this number one recruiting 573 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 9: class that they've got. I do still believe that that's 574 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 9: an upward trajectory. They couldn't get to eleven wins. I 575 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 9: don't believe they can get to nine. Potentially in the 576 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 9: regular season, they could go nine to three and then 577 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 9: maybe a tenth to win into the bowl game. 578 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, my bad, I said eleven. It's ten. 579 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 9: I mean, but ten wins, to your point, like, that's 580 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 9: a huge mark of demarcation in college football. That still 581 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 9: means something and certainly would mean progress at USC in 582 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 9: particular with the class that they've got coming in next year. 583 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 9: So I still believe that they're on an upward trajectory, 584 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 9: but there are clear areas where if they don't fix 585 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 9: then this will continue to happen. If they don't if 586 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 9: they don't fix the interior of their defense, in particular 587 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 9: at linebacker, this will continue to happen because those teams 588 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 9: that they're playing, the Michigan's, the Ohio I know they 589 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 9: beat Michigan, but Ohio State of the world, the Oregons 590 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 9: of the world, those teams are elite and will be 591 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 9: elite every single year. 592 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good stuff. We always just listen. I 593 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: know you can't make predictions. I think Ohio State thirty 594 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: to thirteen. And I think if as long as one 595 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: of them can play, one of their great receivers can play, 596 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: I think this defense. I love Underwood, I love marsh 597 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: and I you know I was a big hardball guy, 598 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: but boy this I'm telling you right now that Julian 599 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: sand doesn't make mistakes, doesn't and that defense is that 600 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: is a top five college defense. You can go back 601 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: to Steve Batman and Washington Saban had a defense. 602 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 9: In twenty eleven. They were great in twenty eleven. Yeah, 603 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 9: my Georgia and twenty one was exceptional. You know this 604 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 9: is an all time defense. 605 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 606 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait and I can't wait either. 607 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 9: And by the way, it's supposed to be just like 608 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 9: prototypical weather, thirty with snow flurries. 609 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: Let's go. 610 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, I just want to make it clear, 611 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: just because I left the other place early, I've changed. 612 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: I am now only committed to Fox. iHeart and Joel Klatt. 613 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh that was the old. 614 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 9: No, No, I disagree. I see you out there. You 615 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 9: got other college football guys that you've got on whatever 616 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 9: you're doing everywhere else. And I'm like, okay, I feel 617 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 9: you know, I feel a little cheated on Colin. I'll 618 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 9: be honest. But that's all right, that's all right. I 619 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 9: know I disagree. I can be disagreeable at times. 620 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: It's my favorite part of you actually have a great 621 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: have a great time. I can't wait to watch. 622 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, happy thanksgiving you your whole staff, everybody listening. 623 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: I hope you guys have a great weekend. 624 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean it is. I mean, I get, I get Michigan, 625 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State in ann Arbor. It's just I mean, you know, rivalries, 626 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: there's not that. I mean, the NFL is not a 627 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: rival re sport. I mean Kansas City Buffalo feels like something. 628 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: But that's kind of quarterback led I mean ten years ago, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, 629 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean Baseball Giants, Dodgers, nobody cares. 630 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Dodgers are global Dodgers. Yankees feels big. Michigan Ohio State 631 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: that is. That is goosebump stuff. That is. I'm gonna 632 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: turn the the air conditioning up at my house and 633 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: put a jacket on so I feel like I'm there. 634 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn the temperature down to my house like 635 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: forty one degrees. I don't care if the dogs are upset, 636 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna wear I'm gonna wear a hoodie and 637 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: just to feel like I there. 638 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 639 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: and Neon Eastern not a em Pacific. 640 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving Day Fox. 641 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 6: Is serving up a classic NSC North rivalry as Jordan 642 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 6: Love and the Packers take on Jared Goff and the Lions. 643 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 6: Coverage begins at eleven am Eastern with the pregame show 644 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 6: live on location from Detroit. 645 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 7: Thanksgiving Day on Fox. 646 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: NFL has always been to me the sport of hope. 647 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: It takes a long time to go from a terrible 648 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: baseball team to a World Series team. But in the 649 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: NFL you can be the New England Patriots, like a 650 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: hazmat spill. You get Drake May, you get Mike Rabel, 651 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: Josh mcdowne, McCown and Josh McDaniel excuse me, and all 652 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're the number one seed. It's the 653 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: sport of hope. You get the head coach, the coordinator, 654 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: and the quarterback right and you are suddenly a Super 655 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: Bowl contender. But it's all centered. College football is about 656 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: the coat. Pro football is about the quarterback, and we've 657 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of young quarterbacks. Thanksgivings tomorrow. They all 658 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: start Week one in the NFL as rookies at the 659 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: kids table till they graduate to the Stafford table, or 660 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: they graduate to the Justin Herbert or the Patrick Mahomes 661 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen table. So jmack, let's determine kids table or 662 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: adult table for these young signal callers. 663 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 7: All right, Colin, are you ready for this? Here we go? 664 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 6: Will it be the kids table or the big quarterback table? 665 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: For Drake Nate he has already pivoted to the big 666 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: quarterback table. Listen, He's better than even people who liked 667 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: him thought. Leaves the NFL in completion percentage at a 668 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: remarkable seventy one percent best record in the NFL, already 669 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: has well over three thousand yards right now, he feels 670 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: like a top six to seven quarterback today in the league. Durable, big, accurate, winning, 671 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: crowning him. 672 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 6: Okay, I like it, all right, Kids table or big 673 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 6: quarterback table? 674 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: For Jackson Dart, He's still at the kids table. Jmack 675 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: in eight games, he's checked into the blue tent four times. 676 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: He's already you know. He leads quarterbacks in Russia attempts, 677 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: which I am a fan of young quarterbacks using their 678 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: athletic ability and feet to move the chains as they grow. 679 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: But right now from the pocket, still have my doubts. 680 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: He's a risk taker. He moves well, a lot of confidence, 681 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: probably one more thanksgiving from moving, you know, to a 682 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: glass of wine. 683 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 6: All right, Well, this one's going to divide the audience. 684 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 6: Kids table or big Quarterback table for your guy, Caleb Williams. 685 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: He's at the Big Boy t come four and zero 686 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: in November. One of three quarterbacks with thirty touchdown passes 687 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: and ten or fewer interceptions over the last two years. 688 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: You want to hear the other ones, Stafford Lamar and 689 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: your guy Jalen Hurtz. Caleb Williams is comfortably sitting next 690 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: to grandpa. 691 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 7: Oh my god, that is troubling. 692 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 6: Kids table or Big Quarterback table for Bownicks your other 693 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 6: best friend, Come. 694 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: On, adult table. Not even enough? I mean nine total 695 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter, ranked second in the league, 696 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: leads the NFL with eight game winning drive last two seasons, 697 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: top ten and wins, passing yards, touchdown passes. I mean, 698 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: come on, he is okay, he's getting the leg. 699 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 6: You're the teaser, you're the teacher. I wish I had 700 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 6: in like eleventh grade biology. Kid's table or big Quarterback 701 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 6: table for Bryce. 702 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: Young two inconsistent. I'm sorry you watched it Monday. He's 703 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: shrank in a big spot. I'm sorry. He's a great kid. 704 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: But you very early on you were like, you were like, 705 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't look the part ninety or worst passer rating 706 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: in nine of his eleven starts, and I like his 707 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: coach and Rico Daddell. He's got a couple of young, 708 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: but very talented wide receivers. Their defense is better, but 709 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: he is twelve and twenty seven since he entered the league. 710 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: Kid's table not great. 711 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 7: We should probably skip this one, but we'll do it anyway. 712 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 6: Kid's table or Big Quarterback Table for JJ McCarthy. 713 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: Well in the second and third quarters this year, he 714 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: has a twenty seven passer rating, so I don't even 715 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: want to be mean kids table. In fact, the other kids, 716 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: the other kids let him go first and pick Oh 717 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: he's struggling. Hey, I feel bad for the kid. He's struggling. 718 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 7: It's early. 719 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 6: He'll re'll turn it around. Kid's table or Big Quarterback 720 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 6: table for cam Ward. 721 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him at the big boy table. I 722 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: think he's I think he's really talented. He's not getting 723 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: any help. He's the most sack quarterback they fired. Their coach. 724 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Reminds me a lot of a less talented Chicago Bear 725 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: mess last year. The Bears had more players. I think 726 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: I think cam Ward's good. Like last weekend, finally coming around. 727 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: But last year Caleb, everybody said he was terrible. Twenty touchdown, 728 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: six picks. This was a multiple touchdown game against the Seahawks. Ran. 729 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: He's growing on me. Now. I'm not saying he gets 730 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: the stuffing last. He's not getting the mashed potatoes first 731 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: at the adult table. But I'm gonna put him there. 732 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: I think he's I see, I see some potential startup. 733 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree. 734 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 6: Finally kid's table or big quarterback table for Sineur Sanders, neither. 735 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: We're putting him at a new table, the legendary table. 736 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: Every quarter of that? Is it a height news legendary? 737 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: Hey led the NFL last week? Yards per a. 738 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 7: Temp wow last week? 739 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: You know what? I took some u some of the 740 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: motif on his draft room legendary moved it over to Thanksgiving. 741 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 7: Did you just use motif on a sports show? Oh 742 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 7: my gosh, coward in is bag here. 743 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 6: Listen the Chad, the Chadueur five online is coming after 744 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 6: you for this. 745 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 3: Boy. 746 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: Damn, I will say this. He did you know my 747 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: rule on quarterbacks? If your college problem is your NFL problem, 748 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. Johnny Manziel ran around too much. You 749 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: watched them in the pros. You're like, yeah, yeah, that 750 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: that stuff is not gonna work. Uh. If Caleb Williams 751 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: struggled with accuracy struggles in the NFL, it's my only 752 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: criticism of him. Gotta be a little bit more accurate. 753 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, does the legendary table eat before the kids table? 754 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: Or no? You know it's it's somewhere in between. 755 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, all right? 756 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: You could they do serve wine at the legendary table? 757 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 7: Oh really wine? 758 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: Not at the kids table? Okay, okay, all right. But 759 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: here's what I'd say about Shadoor Sanders. The opposite is 760 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: also true. When I watched him last week, I saw 761 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: Colorado Chadueur and I thought Colorado Shoulder was a mid 762 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: first mid second round pick. He moves better than anybody 763 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: gives him credit for. Stop saying he's a pocket quarterback. 764 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: He has a couple spin moves. He moves. He's not 765 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: as quick to me as like a bow Nicks. He's 766 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: not quite that twitchy. But he's a good athlete. He 767 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: has a average to average plus arm. By the way, 768 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: on the deep throws accurate and it does help. I 769 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: will say this. I know in Cleveland everybody's banging on Stefanski. 770 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: But one of the things J Mack, that you and 771 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: I can't argue about. It has been a clear advantage 772 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: to have an offensive coach if you're a rookie, Yeh 773 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: bow Knicks, Caleb Williams, Okay Raheem Morris. That's who Mike 774 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: Pennix gets right now, you can Yeah, how. 775 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 7: Cole Penix is it? He's not even invited. 776 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: To thanks He's hurt. He's hurt. I don't know what 777 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: to do with that. 778 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 7: So I need to ask you. 779 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 6: So Bryce Young, who's in you know, multiple years in 780 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 6: the league, couldn't do anything against the Robert solid defense. 781 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 7: If Shaduur goes out and has a passable. 782 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 6: Game against Salah and the Niners, that then there's she's 783 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 6: really gonna freak out. People are gonna be like, this 784 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 6: is your starter next year, So just be ready for that. 785 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 7: Because Sunday, the slate is not great. 786 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 6: All the good teams are fired on Thanksgiving Day, So 787 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 6: Chadour could have a game against Salah at home. It's 788 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 6: inclement weather, so maybe that's uh, maybe that'll throw a 789 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 6: wrinkle in that. 790 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think I feel like some 791 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: of the Chadur stuff is a little bit like Tibau. 792 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: People are talking about conspiracy theories. He's got a very 793 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: fanatical you know following. It's very tribal. The difference is, 794 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: I think Shador throws an NFL ball. I think I 795 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: think Tebow was always a little bit in terms of 796 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: athletic ability, a little overstated. I think Shador's athletic ability 797 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: is understated. And the aird thing about Shadur that I like, 798 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: I think he's too goofy and playful for me. I 799 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: wish he was a little more serious. 800 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 7: He's what is he twenty three years old? 801 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: Oh but we've always said it's not fair, but I 802 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: do need my cornerbacks to be grown ups. I don't 803 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: need I don't care about any enterprison. There are certain 804 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: things in life. If you're working in the ICU in 805 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: a hospital and you're twenty four, you can't be at 806 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: senior froggies the night before knocking down twelve tequilas. I 807 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: need you to be a grown up. There are pilot 808 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: you can't be out at the bar night before if 809 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: you're a twenty five year old pilot, pilot, surgeons, quarterbacks. 810 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it's unfair you have to be more mature. 811 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: That's part of it, right, Surgeon, pilot, quarterback, you have 812 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 1: to be a different twenty four. 813 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 6: The two occupations that literally save lives, and then a 814 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 6: quarterback who throws a pig skin. 815 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, god. 816 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 7: It makes sense. 817 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: Another one of my analogies that nailed it.