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Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist, we can't wait for you to hear

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Speaker 1: our latest classic episode honestly behind the curtain that Noel.

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Speaker 1: This came to us I think at least in part

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Speaker 1: due to Sequest, remember that TV show Sequest totally with

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Speaker 1: the talking dolphin and Jonathan Brandes from Never Ending Story

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Speaker 1: we talking about Sea Lab? Because I DSV that's this

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Speaker 1: Scheider you'll remember from Jaws Fame kind of got a

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Speaker 1: prompted us you ask whether there are any real underwater basis,

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Speaker 1: listen to the episode. Here we go from UFOs to

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Speaker 1: psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events.

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Speaker 1: You can turn back now or learn the stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Hello, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. My name is Matt, my name is Nold.

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Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Paul Deckan, Paul Beckons and the house ladies and gentlemen. Paul,

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Speaker 1: He's a man of many times. Oh yeah, Duchamp. This

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Speaker 1: show banter. Yeah. Yeah, so that's Paul. Paul as Paul,

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Speaker 1: Paul luck having to deal with us. Yes, please do that.

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Speaker 1: So we've talked in the past about the world's extensive

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Speaker 1: network of military bases. These could be publicly acknowledged, These

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Speaker 1: could be speculated or speculative, or they could be just

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Speaker 1: rumors on the dark web. Right, Yeah, exactly. The Deep

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Speaker 1: Underground Military Basis episode still holds a special place in

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Speaker 1: Can we call it the Base God trilogy? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: if we don't get sued. So just on a personal thing.

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Speaker 1: But I grew up on a series of military installations,

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Speaker 1: any of them underwater, not to my knowledge. You know,

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Speaker 1: a number of US military bases, proven ones, public ones. Today,

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Speaker 1: the US operates around eight hundred military bases that we

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Speaker 1: you would probably have to set it up where personnel

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00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: on the base are only there in you know, increments

427
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: of time, sure, right, yeah, like on the submarine exactly.

428
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: You have to set it up that way. So here's

429
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: the other question. Let's say the worst possible thing happens.

430
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: Let's say there's super secret undersea military base and it's

431
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: somehow doing some sketchy stuff in violation of international law, right,

432
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: and everything's humming along quite nicely until a catastrophe occurs.

433
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Maybe a cavern collapses, a submarine that is doc in

434
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: there for some reason explodes, there is a fire that

435
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: damages any air recycling stuff. Unexpected volcanic activity, unexpected, Oh

436
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: that's a great one. Yeah, unexpected volcanic or geothermal activity.

437
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Could the people at the base be saved? And how

438
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: because this would still be sort of an off the books, Yeah, structure,

439
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: off the book structure and trying to get you know,

440
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: depending on how many people you have, they're getting enough

441
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: of those people safely to the surface without causing any

442
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: of the effects that you get from surfacing too quickly,

443
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: or you know, there are so many problems, and yeah,

444
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: even if they're in pressure, I guess it would be

445
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: a little easier, but just some crazy things to think about.

446
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: So with those things in mind, what sort of stuff

447
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: would people build or what have they built? And perhaps

448
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: most importantly, why why do this. You know, one thing

449
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: I was thinking just before the bane of any secret

450
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: undersea base is Navy frogmen. I'm telling you those Navy frogmen, Yeah,

451
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: riding there human torpedoes. Well, we do know that there

452
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: are there are multiple non military experiments with the viability

453
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: of life undersea, and the US Navy actually has a

454
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: small scale version of a underwater military operation right here

455
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: in the good old US of A. It's something that

456
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: we had never heard about before. It's called the United

457
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: States Navy Acoustic Research Detachment or AARD. Okay, that's a

458
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: long one. It's located in Lake penned Oreel in Bayview, Idaho.

459
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: And this lake is the largest one in Idaho. It's

460
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: also the deepest in the quietest. It has a surface

461
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: area of one hundred and forty eight square miles and

462
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: the highest depths depths or the lowest depths I guess,

463
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: are up to eleven hundred feet and it has an

464
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: almost constant surface temperature of thirty nine point five degrees fahrenheit.

465
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: And most importantly for this base, most of the shoreline

466
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: on this lake is not populated. It consists of mostly

467
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: national forests that are owned by the government and there

468
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: are a couple little pockets of humanity and civilization that

469
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: live there in these little resort areas. But that's it.

470
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: So what are they doing? What kind of stuff are

471
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: they up to there in Idaho? Well, they are they

472
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: are building and testing unmanned, scaled down submarines. That sounds cool, right,

473
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: So think about the drone technology that you're aware of

474
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the news with the airplanes, right,

475
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: they're doing that with submarines. They're about a quarter the

476
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: length of a full size sub and they're testing brand new,

477
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: state of the art acoustic technology and probably lots of

478
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: other revolutionary tech that we don't know about. And they're

479
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 1: testing them in this lake specifically because it's so quiet

480
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: and because it's so calm and there's just no other interference,

481
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: so their tests can come out almost pristine. So one

482
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: quarter the length of a full size sub would make

483
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: that up to eighty eight feet. Yeah, eighty eight feet

484
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: is kind of an average ridge for what you would

485
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: see there, because you know, the different models of the

486
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: submarines vary. And the really cool thing about utilizing these

487
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: models rather than full sized submarines in this lake is

488
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: that it saves anybody listening, including the four of us,

489
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: who is a citizen of the United States, a lot

490
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: of money. I think at the time when the article

491
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: we were reading for this was written, which is years

492
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: and years and years ago, the quote was that they

493
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: save billions of dollars in development costs. So I can

494
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: only imagine that that's you know, exponentially increased in savings

495
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: over time. And at first blush, there doesn't seem to

496
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: be anything nefarious about this. This is just a testing

497
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: center and they're hoping to save money and probably ultimately

498
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: save lives. I mean, yes, on the surface, absolutely true.

499
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: But you guys, let's say that you're, you know, an

500
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: underwater military scientist. You've been working on your human experiments

501
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: in your secret underwater base lab whatever, and you want

502
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: to take a little break. What's what's what's a scientist

503
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: like that to do for a little respite. Well, I'll

504
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: tell you. You go to one of the world's many

505
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: underwater hotels, oh buddy, because that's obviously you spend all

506
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: your time toiling away in an underwater lab. You want

507
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: to go on vacation and in an underwater thing. Well, yeah,

508
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: you want to ride to that same feeling that you've had,

509
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: you just want to make it more positive. Yeah, exactly, No,

510
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but there. Yeah, there's this is a thing

511
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: underwater hotels. And at first that was the first thing

512
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: they popped it into my head where it's like, duh,

513
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: cracked it. They've been doing these underwater hotels things and

514
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: Dubai and Key West forever. And then I look it

515
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: up and it's like a whopping twenty feet below the

516
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: ocean surface, and I'm like, that's not nearly as impressive

517
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. I still stay in one. Oh, sure,

518
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: they're cool looking. There's this one called Atlantis at the

519
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Palm and Dubai very opulent. This one in Key West,

520
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: the Planet Ocean underwater Hotel straight up looks like c lab.

521
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Look at this who it looks like a series of pods. Definitely,

522
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: but it's pretty cool. So maybe we'll take a group

523
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: a group vacation to one of those one day, Yes, please,

524
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: We'll have a conspiracy adventure all our own, right, Yes.

525
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: And just to really quickly jump back over to to

526
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the acoustic the Navy Acoustic Research Detachment. Just to give

527
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: some history, we have a quote from an LA Times

528
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: article here and It says that the Navy's Acoustic Research

529
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: Detachment plays a key role in the quest forever quieter submarines.

530
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: It's the only active duty remnant of the former Ferragut

531
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Naval Training Center which was there, and it was established

532
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: during World War Two, and in nineteen forty six most

533
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: of that center's four thousand acres became a state park,

534
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: but they kept along a lot a couple other parts

535
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: of this base and they built it out to do

536
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: this whole drone submarine testing for the acoustics. And it's

537
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: relatively small too, just like twenty two acres, right, yeah,

538
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: twenty two acres along the lake's south end, and there's

539
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: a resort community of three hundred people near it. So like,

540
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: you're not you're not dealing with a ton of boats,

541
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: a ton of people on the water, but you are.

542
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: If you're walking along the shore, maybe on vacation and

543
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: hy you you do have a chance to see remote

544
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: control model submarines. They're housed in these sheds built over

545
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: the lake. So the models are not armed as far

546
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: as we could find. They're not testing weaponry, at least

547
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: officially they're not. And one weird thing is that they

548
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: have they have people protesting nuclear power there, but it

549
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: doesn't have any nuclear facilities. Yeah, that's true. There are

550
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people thinking that there was a nuclear

551
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: facility that was going to be built there. And we'll

552
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: get in. There are a lot of rumors and interesting

553
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: things going on there at this lake. Lake penned Oriel

554
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: or Oriel. Somebody correct me, tell me how to say

555
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: it correctly. There was another quotation that you found, Matt,

556
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: that I thought was pretty interesting. It says, over the years,

557
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: the base's mission has sparked rumors in dark fantasies. Some

558
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: locals believe a secret underwater river provides the gateway for

559
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: full size subs from the Pacific Ocean about three hundred

560
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: miles away. And for cryptid fans, there's one more fun fact.

561
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: It makes me smile. Oh yeah, what is it all?

562
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: And another legend links the base and a mythical underwater

563
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: beast named Pondi. So Pondi if you're listening, big fans,

564
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard of Pondi. I'm just a

565
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: fan in theory I loved. So here's the deal. Why

566
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I think Pondi exists? This is just my take. So

567
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: this thing's been around there's been there's been testing here

568
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: since World War Two, right, and you've got kids growing

569
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: up there who go on the lake. Now, most of

570
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: the testing, they say, occurs in the deepest areas of

571
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: the lake, kind of towards the center areas, and at

572
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: night when the surface wind speeds are at their lowest,

573
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: So most of the acoustic stuff, the boom, all that

574
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is in the water at night when

575
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're a kid down by the dock,

576
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: maybe you jumped in the water for a second and

577
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: you're just like, what, pond that's scamp. I can totally

578
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: see that. He's got to be like Cecil from the

579
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Beanie and Cecil Show, you know, like a friendly kind

580
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: of goofball sea monster who has a little buddy with

581
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: with a Beanie hat. You know, that makes sense to me.

582
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: That checks out. I think we solve the mystery of PONDI. Right, Yep.

583
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We're doing this because this is one

584
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: of the most publicly acknowledged basis of that type. But

585
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: we don't know what else is out there, and it

586
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: turns out the United States is not the only player

587
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: in this strange underwater game. We'll talk about some of

588
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: those other players once we get a quick word from

589
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: our sponsor. So it is not just the United States

590
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: getting in on the underwater secret base, or maybe not

591
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: so secret base, just cool underwater base game. We've also

592
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: got China, China, China, yes, the country of China, China, China, China. Like,

593
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: we're not making fun of anyone. It's just one of

594
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: those words that when you say it enough times, it

595
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: starts to lose all meaning. And maybe we are making

596
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: fun of someone a little bit more. That's the there's

597
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: a real term for that. It's called semantic satiation. Oh God,

598
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: suck the joy rat of it. How does that? I

599
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be mystical. You named the unnamable exactly, I kid,

600
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: But for real, there's a base that China plans to build,

601
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: and it's real. This isn't made up. This is an

602
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: actual thing with a budget, with people, like with their outlines.

603
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: There are people working on this right now. It would

604
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: be located ten thousand feet below the ocean surface and

605
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: it's going to search for valuable mineral deposits and I'm

606
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: sure that's all it's going to do. Even though it

607
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: is on the coast of the South China Sea, one

608
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: of the most heavily disputed areas in the world. Maritime speaking,

609
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: what are you implying, then, that there's some ulterior motive

610
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: for this underwater clandestine facility. Dare dare I imply such?

611
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: I think he's implying. It's multifaceted. China claims its fluid.

612
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: It's the China claims severegnity over this huge swath of

613
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: ocean in the area, and this causes multiple other countries

614
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: in the region no small amount of distress because they

615
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: want to be a regional hegemon. And Vietnam is saying, well, hey,

616
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: we own part of this, and then the Philippines are saying, hey,

617
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: well we own part of it. Pretty much every other

618
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: country in the area is saying, calm down, you don't

619
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: own the entire sea, and they're saying, I don't want

620
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to get too off topic here, but their argument is

621
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: that it is historically Chinese territory, based at least to

622
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: some degree on this document written by a fisherman a

623
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: long time ago, one to which none of those other countries,

624
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: by the way, agreed, And you know they're like, hey,

625
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: just like a fisherman, yeah, not like the head fisherman

626
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: or one person. I can dig up the I can

627
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: dig up some more on that if we want to

628
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: explore it. But the problem here is, you know, as

629
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: as we saw, they could say it's a mineral scouting

630
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: base all the livelong day, and people are still going

631
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: to treat it with the same skepticism that you would

632
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: treat a country saying we're refining nuclear material just for

633
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: power purposes. We're not doing anything else where it, we promise,

634
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: even though the steps to refine nuclear material for a

635
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: power plant are indistinguishable for a lot for let's just say,

636
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: virtually indistinguishable from the refinement needed to make a weapon.

637
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: And we have a quote here from the President of

638
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: the People's Republic of China, shi Jinping. The deep sea

639
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: contains treasures that remain undiscovered and undeveloped, and in order

640
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: to obtain these treasures, we have to control key technologies

641
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: in getting into the deep sea, discovering the deep sea,

642
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: and developing the deep seam. Gonna get that deep sea

643
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: action man was Yeah, it was a speech writer paid

644
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: by how many times they use the phrase deep sea?

645
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I think, I think perhaps, And we also have a

646
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: quote here when we look at it from the US,

647
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: and like, how how is the United States viewing this

648
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: from a strategic standpoint when you know, we talked when

649
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: Ben's mentioning all these different issues, they're going to come up,

650
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, in international politics. So a gentleman named Brian

651
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: Clark of the Washington Strategic and Budgetary Assessments says, having

652
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: this kind of long term inhabited station has not been

653
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: attempted this deep, but it certainly is possible. Manned submersibles

654
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: have gone to these depths for almost fifty years. The

655
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: challenge is operating it for months at a time, which

656
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: is the same thing We've been talking about this whole time.

657
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: Time and time again, time and undersea time again. Oh

658
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: excuse me, deep sea time again. How just let it.

659
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: They want to control it, they want to get into it,

660
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: they want to discover it, and they want to develop

661
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: It's that's true. So how serious is this because we

662
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: know that over the decades, numerous militaries have proposed some

663
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: pretty cock amy stuff and with varying degrees of seriousness

664
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: or intention. Well, we know that, at least from the

665
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: perspective of the PRC, from China's perspective, this is a

666
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: real thing that is happening. It's part of the five

667
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: year economic plan. They were leased in March of twenty sixteen,

668
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: and it's ranked as number two on a list of

669
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the government's top one hundred science and technology priorities. You

670
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: can imagine if you could gain access to any kind

671
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: of mineral deposits that were before this point inaccessible, especially

672
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: in large quantities, or if you could get maybe some

673
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: rare earth minerals down there, maybe some stuff that's just

674
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: been dormant for years and years and years, centuries, millennia,

675
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: that could be huge economically for China. And let's go

676
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: ahead and up the stakes further because it turns out

677
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: that the Chinese government is already operating an underground military

678
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: base for naval force is It's called the Yulan Naval Base.

679
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: It's built from nuclear submarines. It's on the southern coast

680
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: of Hainan Islands, and it's been spooky thing is Yeah,

681
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: people outside of the Chinese government learned about this because

682
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: other governments intelligence agencies were reporting it. China was just

683
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna probably let this one slide. Yeah, dude. According to

684
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: the reconnaissance, this place, it's like caverns, right, that's the idea.

685
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: It's yeah, caverns where you can store up to twenty

686
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: nuclear subs, and it's large enough to accommodate there's a

687
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: harbor and the surface. It's large enough to accommodate aircraft

688
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: carriers too, which the government is actively building. And I

689
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: don't I don't particularly care for it when we hear

690
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: alarmism about another country doing things that other countries happen

691
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: doing for a while. And I think a lot of people,

692
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people can agree when I say that. Oftentimes,

693
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: at least in the US, some things like this come

694
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: up at just the right moment to distract people from

695
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: a different issue. China. I wish you guys could see

696
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Noel's face right now, because just like Matt's look around.

697
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: Uh no, you dropped it and rejected and then leaned back.

698
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I was the question he face. Emoji Ye I saw it.

699
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Superproducer Tristan communicates exclusively with that emoji. Did we have

700
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: We've mentioned that on the air before, We've mentioned that

701
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: his emoji game is on point. Yet it is a point,

702
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: So we wanted to provide some examples of how this

703
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: is actually happening, why it would be important, and the

704
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: secrecy surrounding it, because at this point, as we record this,

705
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: we have to conclude that it may never be possible

706
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: to know exactly how many military installations exist across the surface,

707
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: much less under it, but it is almost entirely certain

708
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: that they're more on the way, possibly being built now,

709
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: possibly with money from your taxes, depend on which country

710
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: you live in, and definitely without your knowledge. Oh yeah,

711
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: and as you know, our space programs continue to prosper,

712
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: especially the private ones who are working with militaries. That

713
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: moon base is not far away, you guys, I think

714
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: our lifetimes moon base. I would totally live on a

715
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Moon base. I would really. I don't know about you all,

716
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: but I'm one of those people who if I got

717
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a one way ticket to space and they're like, yeah,

718
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: we're just gonna shoot you off, can't come back, probably

719
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna die on the ship, I would be all about it.

720
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: I just want to go to sample that famous moon cuisine. Yeah,

721
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: so just the temporary like foodie trip freeze freeze dried everything.

722
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's not just ice cream anymore. They had

723
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: moon cheese. Oh no, I hear moon reefried beans are exquisite?

724
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: Is that a thing? It has to be that it

725
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: comes like it looks like a rice crispy treat. Man,

726
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: it's probably what it is. I was so disappointed. I

727
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: was so disappointed when I learned the truth about moon

728
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: pies that they're just like Manu Factory in Tennessee, just

729
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: regular old factory pies. I was not a clever child.

730
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: They're just made of like palm oil. So did the

731
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Navy ever actually pursue this concept, this rock site concept

732
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: at point sir or elsewhere? We do know there was

733
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one study that discussed the various methods of

734
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: seafloor excavation, but by that point, by the nineteen seventies

735
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: in the US, most of that sort of development was classified.

736
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: So we don't know exactly what's happening now on the

737
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: ocean floor, but we do know it remains the stuff

738
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Oh and on a

739
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: positive note, of course, we'd be remiss if we didn't

740
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: mention there are multiple non military efforts to build sustainable

741
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: underwater habitats. And I think it is for pure research

742
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: because it would be like living in space in many ways,

743
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: you know. So it's not every we're saying, not every

744
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: underwater installation is designed to secretly deploy submarines and attack

745
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: people exactly. Sometimes it's just about what happens when a

746
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: bunch of people living deep underwater start stop being nice

747
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: and start being real. Have you seen the episode of

748
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: Planet Earth about the deep deep, deep deep deep deep

749
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: deep ocean the Abyssil plane. Yeah, dude, Oh my god,

750
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: it's like a nightmare escape. Can you imagine open up

751
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: your window every morning and there's like an angler fish

752
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: out there, just like dangling. It's weird little lure. Hey. Hey,

753
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: the only reassuring thing about that part of the planet

754
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: is that, due to tremendous pressure, the vast majorios animals

755
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: are so tiny. That's the only thing that makes me

756
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: feel safe. If they were even a foot longer, it

757
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: would be too much lovecraft for me. There's some big

758
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: ones down there too, though, So shout out to the

759
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Marine Lab Underwater Laboratory. It's one of the longest serving

760
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: seafloor habitats in history. I think it is the longest

761
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: serving and that is in Key Largo, Florida. It's been

762
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: around since nineteen eighty four. It's a training center too,

763
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: if you want to go. Yeah, that's super cool. I

764
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: think we also go there instead of going to the

765
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: underwater hotel, Let's just go to the marine lab. Let's

766
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: do all of them. Okay, if you want to go

767
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: to the rock side, because that sounds like a dope

768
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: party at the rock side, I just gotta go to

769
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: point sir man. Also, it is a dream of mine.

770
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of any of you out

771
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: there friends and neighbors have ever done this, but it's

772
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: completely possible to travel by cargo ship. Shoot the curl,

773
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: that's what I was trying to remember the term for it.

774
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're all over the place. I love

775
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: you guys, you're my friends. Speaking of our dearest friends, though,

776
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: holy cow, it's been a minute since we've done it.

777
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: Shout Uta. Our first shout out today comes from Jacob.

778
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Jacob says, Hi, Matt Nolan, Ben, I've been listening to

779
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: your show for a while now. It's a wonderful way

780
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: to help keep me sane while working in a metal shop.

781
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: I would like to know if you know what we

782
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: know and what we know we don't know about Area

783
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: fifty one. Well, hey, we just talked about that, Jacob.

784
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I think we got you covered. I grew up in

785
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: southern Nevada and lived there for ten years. My dad

786
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: was in the military, relatively high ranking two and still

787
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: I heard almost nothing about it other than one of

788
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: my friend's dad's worked there but couldn't say what he

789
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: was doing. Also, if you read this on air or

790
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: on podcast Canned Air, I guess could I get a

791
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: birthday shout out for my very special wife Kelsey? Guess

792
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: what Kelsey down? Now bound down the shout outs for you, Kelsey.

793
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Kelsey, and thanks for writing to us. Jacob.

794
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: We do have We do have some other I think

795
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: we talked about Area fifty one and some earlier episodes too.

796
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: It continually comes up, and we have some videos about

797
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: it on YouTube that we definitely recommend you check out. Next,

798
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: we've got one from Helen. She says, Hey, guys, I

799
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: just wanted to say you're awesome. Thanks Helen. We think

800
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: you're awesome too. I have never been much into conspiracy,

801
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: but I've enjoyed learning from you all. I respect very

802
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: deeply that you start with the facts and then and

803
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I say that with quotes, quote fingers, and then talk

804
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: about your own opinions. The sign of a great intellectual

805
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: is that he can present facts and opinions as separate.

806
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: I have been so inspired by or work and look

807
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: forward to every episode. I live in Athens. I don't

808
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: know if you travel up that way much, but I'd

809
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: always have a free place to stay. Oh man, Helen,

810
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: that was so nice. I'm kind of embarrassed that I

811
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: was the one to read it. I'm blushing all over.

812
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: And uh. I love Athens and I think these guys

813
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: do too. I lived there for a little while and

814
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: and and miss it very much. So yeah, well my

815
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: question is, wait, this this email goes on right, What

816
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: is she buttering us up for something? Oh man, You're right, man,

817
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: there there is more. I was so enraptured by the

818
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: compliments being lavished upon us that I didn't even notice

819
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: that there was a point to all this. Um. I've

820
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: been wanting to request a shout out forever since you

821
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: first started them. Yeah, yes, I'm listening that long awesome UM,

822
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: but wanted to have a show idea to include. Now

823
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: I have two. One the hollow moon. We were just

824
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: talking about moon cuisine, spaceship. I just heard this theory

825
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: on the History Channel. Yeah, is the moon hollow? And

826
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: is it a spaceship. Was it a spaceship? An ancient

827
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: relic of an extraterrestrial Yeah, dude, humans get here on

828
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: the moon. I'm gonna say, no, Well, we should look

829
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: into it, Okay, I guess we can do that, Matt.

830
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: The Moon is relatively unexplored. There's that. That's very true.

831
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: So it's possible that there are things. It's certain that

832
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: there are things there that we are not yet aware of.

833
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: It is a very tall milkshake to sip to think

834
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: that it could be a wreck of a spacecraft, right,

835
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: So that would almost be implying. Oh, I see what

836
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: you're saying. If it's all I was thinking, like I said,

837
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a prop or something that's sort

838
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: of like it's like a piece of space scenery. So yeah,

839
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's definitely worth looking into. I

840
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that the History Channel was looking at that stuff. Yeah,

841
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: ancient aliens. Oh that's right. Okay, Well we will. We

842
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: will dig in and see if we can give it

843
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: to go. Let's see what's out there, because I'd also

844
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: be interested in finding out just what what we suspect

845
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: is on the Moon but hasn't been discovered yet. You

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Speaker 1: should check out our sister podcast stuff you miss in

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Speaker 1: History's two part episode on the Great Moon Hoax, because

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Speaker 1: if you want some Moon tomfoolery, there's some good stuff

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Speaker 1: in there, all kinds of wacky ideas that people had

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Speaker 1: in their heads about what was on the moon. So

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Speaker 1: check those out from Holly and Tracy, and then Helen

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Speaker 1: goes on to have a second idea. GMOs. There's been

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Speaker 1: all sorts of experiments proving they're terrible for you. What's

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Speaker 1: up with that? Genetically modified organisms proving that's okay. I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in that because I don't well, I'm more of suggesting, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have. I am not personally familiar with a lot

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Speaker 1: of studies or experiments pertaining to this. On a personal level,

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Speaker 1: I will say that I don't see anything wrong with

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Speaker 1: labeling a food product labeling food is containing GMOs. I

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Speaker 1: completely don't see why somebody would have a bug on

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Speaker 1: their bubb kiss about it. But the idea of the studies,

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Speaker 1: we would really need to look into those, Yeah, to

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Speaker 1: do an episode on it. The only issue I can

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Speaker 1: see are plants that are specifically modified to withstand certain

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Speaker 1: pesticides or insecticides. I can only imagine that that's the

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Speaker 1: only place that I would be worried, like even at

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Speaker 1: all about genetically modified or there's issues that are how

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Speaker 1: I could cause, like superbugs and stuff that I make

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Speaker 1: that up. No, that's a that's a good point because

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Speaker 1: we know with large scale agriculture or agribusiness, we know

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Speaker 1: there's been a trend toward homogeneous, hologenous agricultural products. Like you,

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Speaker 1: it's very real possibility that as we're recording this, and

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this now, the banana as we

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Speaker 1: know it may be extinct within our lifetimes because it's

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Speaker 1: essentially just a thing that has been cloned. And this

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Speaker 1: won't be the first time that humanity lost the most

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Speaker 1: popular banana, which is why banana flavored candy tastes different

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Speaker 1: in comparison to the modern banana Cavendish v gross Michelle.

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Speaker 1: The last thing Helen says is that she has a

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Speaker 1: book on the subject called Altered Jeans Twisted Truths, and

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Speaker 1: she says she wait. She says she'd love for us

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Speaker 1: to have it and drop by the studio if we

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Speaker 1: wanted it, So please shout me out so much love,

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Speaker 1: so thanks so much, Helen, and you know, shoot us

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Speaker 1: an email. Maybe we can we can arrange a visit.

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Speaker 1: The next shout out goes to Samuel. He wrote us

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Speaker 1: an email. He says, Hello, I'm an artist and I

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Speaker 1: want to send a gift to you guys that I

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Speaker 1: think you may appreciate. But I don't know who are

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Speaker 1: how to address it so that Matt and Ben and

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Speaker 1: Noll and Paul will receive it. Can you please tell

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Speaker 1: me what addressed to send it to? Thank you? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Samuel, as an artist, good on you.

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Speaker 1: It is not easy to do that. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have some kind of inflow of money from the art

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Speaker 1: that you create. And if not, I hope you are

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Speaker 1: doing something else fulfilling in your life. That is, you know,

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Speaker 1: letting you pay rent. God, you're a good guy man. Well, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, it's cool that you're creating art,

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Speaker 1: and especially that you want to send it to us.

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Speaker 1: I agreed. Our address is everybody write this down. If

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Speaker 1: you are not scary and you don't want to hurt us,

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Speaker 1: please write this down. Definitely, no unibommers. I'm okay with

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Speaker 1: the scary, scary mail right up my alley. I just

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Speaker 1: bring that up because I started watching the man Hunt series. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very very good. Well, if you're on a man

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Speaker 1: hunt for Ben and Mad and Noll, here's where you go.

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Speaker 1: It's six seven five Ponce de Leon Avenue, northeast Sweet

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Speaker 1: forty five hundred. That's Atlanta, Georgia, three zero three o E.

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Speaker 1: And seriously, no creepers. We've got like top notch security

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Speaker 1: here so you will not make it past the front door.

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Speaker 1: We've got attack dogs, the sentry guns are online. They

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Speaker 1: are big time. But also hope that we will come back.

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Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come back to bite us. And

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Speaker 1: this concludes our oh but not our show. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in. You are the

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Speaker 1: most important part of every episode we do, which means

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Speaker 1: that we want to hear from you. Do you have

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Speaker 1: military experience? Have you lived on a submarine? If so,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the idea of people spending

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Speaker 1: extended amounts of time under water? And we say extended,

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Speaker 1: we mean years. Do you live on a yellow submarine?

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Speaker 1: Have you been to an octopus's garden in the shade?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen blue meanies about? If so, please contact

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Speaker 1: the authorities first, then us and if you have I've

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Speaker 1: not found some meanings blue or otherwise, or been on

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Speaker 1: a submarine yellow or otherwise. But you have a suggestion

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Speaker 1: it's correct, and Twitter and all that stuff. But the

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Speaker 1: best way to contact us, it always has been, it

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Speaker 1: always will be, write us an email. We are conspiracy

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Speaker 1: at HowStuffWorks dot com. And that's the end of this

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