1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to ten, Episode 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: three Up. Guys to production by Heart Radio. This is 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into and 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: you're never gonna believe this America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, November. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: That is of course National Vanilla Cupcake Day, which means yes, 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: I was getting there. It is National Penella cupcake dad, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: and nationally Forget Me Not Day. Okay. What does it 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: forget me Not again? Is that that's a specific clown. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: This is no This was for like the Soldiers for 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: November ten reminds Americans of the sacrifices returning soldiers have 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: made bodies with. But it's also a flower symbolizing remembrance. Okay. 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: And also the song that Men in Black is based 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: off of melodically back you know forget Yeah. Anyway, I 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: do not that it feels like a mismatch of like 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Forget Me Not feels like it should be like big 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: band porn music, like sung by people with pompadours or something. Well, 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien. Dad had nineties shoes. There's 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: not enough chance for me or for you loud kids. 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm too high. I wish we had named tags. Who 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: is that guy? I? Yeah, I never know what to 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: do with my hands. Has anyone heard about the cold 22 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: gas study that courtesy of lex Movie? Just about my 23 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: experience at kid's birthday parties which I hit. I actually 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: hit a good one this past weekend, just by myself, 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: no kids, you know, just checking them out. And I'm 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray in honor of the historic event at 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: CPI here comes. She's a good girl, Reside clows her plastics, 29 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: she calm posts and bikes the work each day. But 30 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Libby is out number every delegation in Glasgow by two 31 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: dozen or more. And then green Green washing, Great green, 32 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: great washing. Okay, shout out to Marky Markarelius for that one, 33 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: because yes, we'll get into that. There seemed to be 34 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: a lot more people repping the fossil fuel industry than 35 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: actual global leaders at CP twenty six. I blame that 36 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: girl for not starting to ride ride her bike to 37 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: work sooner. I think that's what's gonna kill us all. Damn. 38 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: You really went for it and got the with that. 39 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: It was a risk. You know, sometimes you feet where 40 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: you start what you're in I'm like fun, can I 41 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: make it? And sometimes being every time for me? But 42 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: by the way, mine was supposed to be a sharp 43 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: dressed man. I don't know if that was clear. Okay, Okay, well, Miles, 44 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat 45 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: by one of the very faces on Mountains eight more 46 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: been way too damn long. He's a hilarious and brilliant writer, 47 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: podcast host, and producer. He created the blog You As 48 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: This Racist, and created and co host the podcast of 49 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: the same name with the great Tony Newsom. He's a 50 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: TV writer, but perhaps most influentially, he introduced us to 51 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: the phrase gish gallop, which I have shoehorned into every 52 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: conversation I've had since. Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious 53 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Andrew t prophecied it is the return of the mud Tibere. Okay, 54 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I actually thought of one that was slightly topical two 55 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: weeks off. But I saw doing y'all. Yeah, I saw 56 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: the ship out of doing good. A few shut off 57 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: your brain. I feel like, Okay, as long as you 58 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: don't think about any of the subtext, it's pretty good. 59 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I have seen since the world open back up, I've 60 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: seen three movies, like first there was a stutter step, 61 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Open back Up, and I saw F nine and I 62 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: really liked that, the most recent stutter step, probably since 63 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: the hospitalization rates are shooting back up. I saw Dune 64 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: and I saw the French Dispatch in theaters and did 65 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: the same We did the same thing. Oh my god, 66 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: we should start going to movies together instead of me 67 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: going by myself and creating people out. I did not 68 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: like either of those, the second ones or the French Dispatch. 69 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're doing movie club, but Dispatch 70 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. I I will say I talked about 71 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: it a little bit audios as Race is coming out 72 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: to borrow. But it is wild that Wes Anderson decided 73 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: that in our year, the Lord was the time for 74 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the Wes Anderson take on prison protests and cop It 75 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: is like in a vacuum, if this movie had been 76 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: made ten years ago, it's whatever, But right this second 77 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: it is the most tone deaf thing. It's not even 78 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: like bad exactly. I mean it's kind of, but it's 79 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: the criticism. It was just like, how the fund did 80 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you live through the last two years and think I 81 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: know what I want to go and the answer is 82 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: he did not. He did not live through the last 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: two years. He lives in a dollhouse, a life size 84 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming. Yeah, his movies are always adorable. It's just 85 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: very strange when they're on the subject of like things 86 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: that happen. It's more about this my story. ARC think 87 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: my he has changed remained the same since you know 88 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Rocket and I have come to realize I'm a different person. Yeah. Still, 89 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: I went into it with hope because I did really 90 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: like the Grand Budapest Hotel, but this one didn't really 91 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: do it for me. Yeah, Man, Grand Budapest Hotel was 92 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: the source of my tweet with my highest hopes and 93 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: the less least payoff, which was naming the porn parody 94 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: the Grand Booty Stressed Hotel. I really I remember tweeting 95 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: it and being like, I guess I'm famous now, You're like, 96 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: watch me get a fucking agent off the strength of this. 97 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Truly truly believed that, in my heart of hearts what 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: I taped it out. I'm not already like programming the 99 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: number at U T A to show up on your 100 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: phone as and just like it'll be it'll be easier 101 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: to just pop up, you know, what Costco was considered 102 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: a failed writer in his time. But then you know, 103 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: the people are going to rediscover that tweet in the 104 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: Library of Congress, and yeah, you're gonna go down and 105 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: the animals or anals in the Grand Booty stressed Hotel 106 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: of History. All right, Andrew, we're going to get to 107 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 108 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: a couple of the things we're talking about, talking about 109 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: the twenty six not even like the best cop, Like 110 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: cops are are not good, but this one, this one's 111 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: really not not even a good, not even good for 112 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: a cop. They're really funked up. We're gonna talk about 113 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Howard Schultz. We're gonna talk about Portugal and just like 114 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: what it's like to work and live in a country 115 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: where capital is not the only thing that has power. 116 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the new conspiracy influencer market because 117 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Demi Lvato has entered the game. Oh that plenty more. 118 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 1: But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest, 119 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Something from my 120 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: search history was hotel room workout. I I like started 121 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: doing a little flying around because I have some some 122 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: time between gigs, and yeah, I went to Dallas for 123 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: like kind of no reason. My friend was just down 124 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: there and I was like, when we know why you 125 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: were there? Man. It actually literally was like like like 126 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: as it was happening, and I was like, oh, ship, 127 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Like why did I take this? Well, it did explain 128 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: a little bit why tickets were straight up seventy dollars 129 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: to get to Dallas. Nobody wanted to go a handful 130 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: of Yeah, but yeah, as and as a result, I've 131 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: searched hotel room workout because I had never done. It 132 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: makes sense that there's a you know, proliferation of like 133 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: YouTube workouts in the last year and a half. But yeah, 134 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: I started doing that ship. It is wildly embarrassing to do, 135 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: but I think it worked. I feel like I was like, 136 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: oh right, I'm sore and stuff. Yeah, felt sore just 137 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: from you know, and it's it's the kind of ship 138 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: where it's like if you if your hotel room comes 139 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: with a chair, you could do that this type of 140 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: trip and it's all the Yeah, it's all this ship 141 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: underneath the table. Yeah, all right, I guess I guess 142 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: this is how I have to live now. But but 143 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: I've kept up with it. I think I like a 144 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: little YouTube person yelling at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 145 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: I got the I remember, like back when I thought 146 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I would get ripped or something like that. I a 147 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: friend of mine who was like really in the martial 148 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: arts like gave me like this, like Nave like this 149 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Navy Seal had created a book that was just all 150 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: about not needing weights and it was essentially like what 151 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: you're describing, where it's like it's anywhere, just use your 152 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: fucking make your body as strong as possible. Yeah, and 153 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: I got you know, it was fun for a while. 154 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: But then part of me, like I did not know 155 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: about proper weight distribution, almost pulled a fucking dining table 156 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: like onto my throat and I was like yeah, like 157 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: like it's that like you know, the world is your 158 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: gym if you look at it right, and it's like, yeah, 159 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I know, but that's terrifying already the gym is can 160 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: be a gym you want it to be, Like that's fine. 161 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's the sort of you know person, 162 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I am apparently late to the game. I guess nowhere. 163 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: Now I have my my new My next job starts 164 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: uh after Thanksgiving, which is a weird time to start 165 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: a TV writer's room, but they know what they're doing 166 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: for two seconds and then you go for your break again. 167 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm told. I'm told some some show runners like that 168 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: because you can kind of like get to know everyone 169 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and then noodle on whatever one came up with in 170 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: two weeks and then new year with that. I don't know. 171 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how this works. That's that that ship 172 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: is significantly above my head. But yeah, if it's like 173 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: the Vaulter scene in a succession, whereas like nood ale 174 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and give me your forty eight best ideas by tomorrow, 175 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: be careful because that didn't end well for the Vaulter employees. 176 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm keeping I'm keeping a word doc right now because 177 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: I I do. I'm like, I think every time you 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: started new like writing job, it's like it feels wild 179 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: and a little bit like they're never going to use this. 180 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's it's like a safety blanket to just 181 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: come in with like fifty half baked ideas. Is that something? 182 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: The is that something? Doc? Yeah? This is this? This cool? 183 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: What do you think that? Like? I don't know. That's 184 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I will just say sneak preview. This 185 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: will make more sense once I can talk about what 186 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: it is, but I've my ideas. Doc has the band 187 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: You Be Forty as part of it and multiple bullet points, 188 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, as well as any idea, what was 189 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: the thing with You Be Forty? Like getting in a 190 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: fight with someone? Didn't somebody try to fight You Be Forty? 191 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Is that anyway? I see? Now this is gonna make 192 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: my Google search even better? Who brought you before? Havana 193 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: started a bar bar fight after You Be Forty concert? 194 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: But I think it involved him wanting to fight the 195 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: singer of You Be Forty. Maybe maybe that's just my 196 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: weird slash thick that I have going on upstairs. That 197 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: is straight off white excellence right there, right, Brett Kavanaugh 198 00:11:53,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: versus the White was fighting Ali Campbell of You Be Forty. 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: But it was just some other dude, I think. So 200 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh instigated the altercation by throwing ice at another man 201 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: for quote some unknown reason. Oh, this is the one 202 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: with Chris Dudley. I remember he was with Chris Dudley. 203 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Says states that Kavanaugh and his friends, which included future 204 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: NBA player Chris Dudley, we're trying to determine whether the 205 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: man was You Be forty singer Ali Campbell. H huh 206 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: fuck Chris Dudley. I totally forgot about him. Yeah, he's 207 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: the guy who shocked dunked on and then he threw 208 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the ball at shack. Yeah yeah, what what the fuck? 209 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Kind of this is truly like the simulation really just 210 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: ran out of pieces that day, right, Yeah, it was 211 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: just random generating, like okay, red red Wine. Kavana said 212 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: he liked beer like forty five times in the national media, 213 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: so we're just gonna go with that. I don't know. Wow, 214 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: truly amazing. What parts of the world did you see 215 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: on your travels other than Dallas, if any just just 216 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: Dallas in Atlanta? Yeah, my my sister's down in Atlanta. 217 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: I I on a whim went down there and then 218 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: on another whim got my booster shot. Like basically the 219 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: second the c d C was like it's cool and 220 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: um it was a thing where like my my physician 221 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: in l A had been like, you know it's gonna 222 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: be like you should like really, the supplies are going 223 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: to be limited, and da da da, And I got 224 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I like walked into a CVS and 225 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: they were like, you want a booster shot? And I 226 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,239 Speaker 1: was like, yes, I was actually gonna buy this toothpaste 227 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: in from out of town. All right, well if you want. 228 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: When we got yeah, truly it was like I got 229 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: like booster shot and like chicken tenders in like a 230 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: ten minute span, and I was like, God, this is 231 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: this is the most guy with nothing to do in Atlanta. Ship. 232 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm taking my boy to get his shot this morning, 233 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: actually this Wednesday morning, pretty saying stuff amazing. Yeah, the 234 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: kid one, the kid one. It's just one of those 235 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: retractable needles that they put up. What is uh, what's 236 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Being paranoid about buying fake shit? 237 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Like I think it's partially because specifically the Chinese people 238 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I hang out with have started to come into a 239 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: little money, so their asses are all buying rolexes and 240 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: ship and I'm not there, and I I suspect I'm 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: even if I could kind of afford it, would not 242 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: be that type of person. So what I did do, 243 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm wearing it right now, really happy with it. I 244 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: got a reissue that is possibly fake from Ali Baba 245 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: of like the Communist Military Chinese Watch, and it is 246 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: like like it was like a hundred eighty dollars. It 247 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: arrived in like the most like literally like it arrived 248 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: in a plastic box that then looked like it was 249 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: just like raft in basically paper towels, and then like 250 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: like a child had like used like clear plastic tape, 251 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: like it looks like I guess it looks It looked 252 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: most like a sort of like if I had to 253 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: design an I e ed and I had ten minutes 254 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: to do it. So I was like, ship, what what 255 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: what do I have around? Like bomb maker? Yeah? Yeah? 256 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: It was like so yeah, but you know, it arrived 257 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: and then I was like, man, I don't did did 258 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I buy this from Ali Baba? Did I get ripped off? 259 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, who gives a fuck? I'm down. 260 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I am now not that ali Baba is less evil 261 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: than like Amazon, but it's sort of like differently evil. 262 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: That's another marketplace. I was gonna say, you know, I'm 263 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: I look at replica watches when eighties sounds like a 264 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: lot off there? Did you look d H game? Did 265 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: you check out? Was? So it might be real? Is 266 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: the thing? Because they're telling you you're buying like a 267 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: like a the genuine article rather than yeah, so so 268 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: the thing is that the nnuine article. This is for 269 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: anyone that gives a fun This is a Seagull nineteen 270 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: sixty three chronometer. And even the genuine article is arguably 271 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: a fake because it's like the factory. Yeah, so the 272 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: factory in Tangent in the sixties fifties like either stole 273 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: the design or licensed it from It's like a Swiss 274 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: design that they kind of stole. I'm not really clear 275 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: on all the details. Anyway, It's like bootlegs on top 276 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: of bootlegs. I am embracing the Chinese nous of it. 277 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Good about it in general, I think, you know, with 278 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: like replica of fashion, like you know, knockoffs becoming like 279 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: a whole other level like versus like when we were kids, 280 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: and it's like what's on Canal Street or like the 281 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: alley like ship now is like people are getting away 282 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: with selling it on stock X, which is supposed to 283 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: be thousands of dollars shoes that are replicas that are 284 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: made abroad, and like, I just like how it up, 285 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: like the outrage that it inspires in people who insist 286 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: on paying like thousands of dollars for something where you're like, oh, 287 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: that's fake, dude, Like I'm like, you don't, Like you're 288 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: a kid and your whole value system is based on 289 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: buying a thousand dollar pair of shoes, like I hope 290 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: your brain melts down when you see about these for 291 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: a hundred. Well, and it is like, what is the utility? 292 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: It is the same thing with like the su n 293 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: f T s right, Like what is the actual utility 294 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: of ownership of a thing with only aesthetic value? Like 295 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need a watch to tell the time. 296 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I did. I did like the most actually 297 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: pathological thing in the movie Theater the other day, which 298 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: is I used my phone to illuminate my watch hands 299 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: so I could check is straight up broken. I gotta 300 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: see how much longer is left in this movie? Which 301 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: movie it was? It was French Dispatch. I'm just I 302 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: can't the ship. Yeah anyway, embrace embrace the fakes, y'all. Yeah, 303 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: It's an idea that like should have, like found it's time. 304 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: It makes total sense, But I just feel like it's 305 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: too like the idea of just reps replacing like becoming 306 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: the thing that matters, Like I just can't it's too 307 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: like well damaging to the foundational like ethos of our 308 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: country that I feel like they're gonna find a way 309 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: to like end that. Yeah, well that's why I was like, yeah, 310 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: it's also like ripping off the communist design. I'm like, 311 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: all right, the other thing with the other I will say, 312 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: the other option with this watch that this company Seagull sells, 313 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: they were selling a like watch. I think my Chinese 314 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: is not good enough. It would have taken me forever 315 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: to actually read all the Chinese. But it appeared to 316 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: be commemorating the partitioning of Korea. It was like it 317 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: was like the parallel celebration anti US watch. Hell yeah, 318 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: it's like that's dope. And it was like that's like 319 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: probably a bridge too far for me to buy, but right, 320 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: very god tense. Yeah, anything that would outrage rich people, 321 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: I think it's great. You know. Yeah, this one was. 322 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I think my South Korean friends would 323 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: be like that's kind of fun up, Okay, no, but 324 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean I think of even like because you look 325 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: at Gucci and stuff, their designs are starting to mimic 326 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: what a knockoff would be. Like a lot of their 327 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: hoodies now, like with the sort of crude screenprint design 328 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: and like throwback aesthetic, like they're sort of echoing the 329 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: pirated material. Wasn't that the story of the Big Polo? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 330 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: I think so. And but it's also funny to see 331 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: people like who are like man like get so heated 332 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: about someone who paid seventy dollars for the thing that 333 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: looks exactly like their thousand dollar thing. Yeah, and I'm 334 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: because they need the exclusivity. Yeah, And I'm like, that's 335 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: an mindset baby challenge that Ship more be like I 336 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: don't give a funk. Yeah, I mean, I mean horrifically 337 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: fake versacci. It doesn't mean anything, right. What is something 338 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: you think is under it underrated? I did this yesterday 339 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: for breakfast, eating a per simmon at like an apple, 340 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: just standing at my sink. I was I was gonna 341 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: eat a persimmon and the firm kind, not the not 342 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: the one that needs to be tomato kind. Yeah, and 343 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I was. It was like I was like, I tore 344 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: the stem off, and I was like, Ship, this is 345 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: a little riper than I thought. But I was like, 346 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: I already tore the stem off. I just took a bite, like, 347 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, sort of laterally into it, and it was 348 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: really good. I love morenot me up, per Simmon. I mean, 349 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: you guys get invested. Like we said with a Sharne 350 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: coming on saying, this is the time for per Simmons. 351 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: I feel like and now you're saying, I like see 352 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: there's a momentum golong with pers per Simmon season. They're 353 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: they're mad, they're mad cheap at a little Tokyo marketplace. Done. 354 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: So is it like a fool you, per Simmon or 355 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: what kind of Yeah, that's the Is that the firmer one? Yeah? 356 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I think so, you know, I'm I'm Persimmon ignorant. So yeah, 357 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: the fool you, Yeah, yeah, they're they're the ones that 358 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: they're the ones that you don't have to worry about. 359 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: The other one has a very small ripeness window. And 360 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: outside of that ripeness window, it's actually like kind of gross. 361 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: It's like very a stringent, like if you like, it's 362 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: just like kind of like, I guess it's base pret 363 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: too much base. It's literally got too much base, much base. 364 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: It's always been by problem. But the fool you, the 365 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: food you is sort of like good even if it's 366 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: under ripe, it'll just sort of taste like you know, 367 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: like an under ripe apple, like a little green taste 368 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: but not like you know, disgusting. Yeah, that's yeah. And 369 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: when they're ripe, they're they're the best food. But yeah, 370 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: I just I just eight that ship standing at the 371 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: sink with a cup of coffee and a persimmon like 372 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: a spring up lunatic, like a big towel in your collar, 373 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: your shirt kind of. I think I was wearing a 374 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: bathrobe a ball of the tomato the other kind. And 375 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: when you just like mentioned this, I was like, oh, yeah, 376 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: I've like been letting them ripe in in a closet. 377 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: I should I should go check on those. And then 378 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, they're they have like a one minute 379 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: in the window. Yeah, but it's it's so good in 380 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: the window. It is like it truly is just like 381 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: putting grew on a tree, like it's so insane, so 382 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: good good persimmon. Man, I'm gonna go to the farmer's 383 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: market and be like, yo, cut me the best one, right, 384 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: fucking yeah. I need to know because half the time, 385 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: like I pull them off of friends trees and stuff, 386 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: and they're like, nook, they're they're good off there, But 387 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't know which one to pick. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, 388 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: let them let them the firm ones, let them get 389 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: like a little like soft like a like a maybe 390 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: like overripe avocado like consistency, like you can like that. 391 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: You can't push all the way through it, but you can. 392 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, it has a significant give. Yeah, but man, 393 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: I love a love a fucking persumment. Yeah, it's pursumm 394 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: in season, is it. It's probably probably just out of it, 395 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: but just generally culturally, it's per Simmons season. Oh and 396 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: you can get the dried per Simmons, which is I 397 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: think Japanese. Maybe it's a Korean thing, but those are 398 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: those are good all the time. It's and during the 399 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: summer dried for Simmons and like a little whiskey after 400 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: dinner was like a perfect combination. As all right, let's 401 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk 402 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: about the COP twenty six. And we're back, and let's 403 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: check in with some headlines on you know, the COP 404 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty six. The all the most powerful countries in the 405 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: world coming together to solve climate change. What we got, 406 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: I mean must be dominating headlines, right, yeah, I mean, 407 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: let's see NBC has one It says his country is sinking. 408 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: So he's rolling up his ants to make the point 409 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: at CPI, that's very cutting, illuminating, gives me a complete 410 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: understanding of the progress that's being made climate of climate change, 411 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: combating climate change, right by Wes Anderson. Four guy rolls 412 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: up pants because Earth death. That's not very revealing. And 413 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: then I went on CNN. I did a command f 414 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: find to just see if cp S come up. Nothing 415 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: on the front page. ABC. Nothing on the front page. 416 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: Pretty disturbing considering that this is, you know, a lot 417 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: of people saying the most important conference of this year 418 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: and the near future to begin to tackle climate change, 419 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: and you and this is on top of like reports 420 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: that came out yesterday morning from the Climate Action Tracker, 421 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: which is like a watchdog organization, that said, based on 422 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: like everything they're seeing, the global greenhouse gas emissions in 423 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: twenty will still be roughly twice as high as what's 424 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: necessary to limit warming to one point five degrees. Mhm uh, 425 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: it's looking like it's more on track be two point four. 426 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: And the other thing is that they say, quote the 427 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: net zero goals of forty countries account of global emission cuts, 428 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: but the group found only six percent of those emissions 429 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: were backed up by concrete plans. Right, So a lot 430 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: of fucking talk. And here's the other thing that I 431 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: think is really interesting. It's only on more like progressive 432 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: news sites are like activists sort of you know web 433 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: places where sort of like the substantive information is being held. 434 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: Where this glaring statistic came up, which was born out 435 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: of this group called Global Witness, which did just some 436 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: research at C six that said, here's the thing. Quote, 437 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: if the fossil fuel Lobby were a country delegation at 438 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: cop it would be the largest, with five hundred three delegates, 439 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: two dozen more than the largest country delegation. Okay, that's right, 440 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: so there are more. It's like the corporation. They have 441 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: more people representing the fossil fuel industry than the buying 442 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: delegations of the eight worst affected countries by climate change. Sure, 443 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: this is the this is the dynamic currently at this thing. 444 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: But we're talking about this guy is rolling up his 445 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: pant legs. Yeah, I mean isn't that good though? I 446 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: mean think about it, like BP now does all those 447 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: clean energy ads so like they're probably right, I don't know, 448 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: they're probably being influenced by this so you tell me 449 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: who wins. I'm just saying there's a there was a 450 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: global witness was also saying that if you go inside 451 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: right to some of like the convention halls where you 452 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: know there's presentations done on quote unquote energy transition, you know, 453 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: like getting away from the dirty ship and onto the 454 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: good ship, you know that that's the same companies like 455 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Shell or you know, like the national gas companies of 456 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: different countries out there just being like, you know, for example, 457 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: one thing will be like, yes, we're touting hydrogen as 458 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: a new clean fuel source, and then if you look 459 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: at the fine prints, like we will use fossil field 460 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: fossil fuel generated electricity in the production of this hydrogen, 461 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, so, what the fuck is this because 462 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: you're just saying, well, we've still got to use it 463 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: to make good stuff. I guess the little tiny argument, 464 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: which is not what they want, is like if everyone 465 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: would have had like hydrogen cars or whatever, it would 466 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: be easier to change like that electricity to whatever nuclear 467 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: fusion at some point in the future. It's like it 468 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: gives us at least the mechanics to get off of 469 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: fossil fuels. Even though as I say that the fact 470 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: that Shell paid for it means that's not the plan. Yeah. 471 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: At the same time, BP now does standford beyond petroleum, 472 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you guys knew that, Oh 473 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: that's the vegan petroleum that's like soybeans. It is literally 474 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: probably made out of soybean inside everything is I think 475 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: that's just so frustrating, right, It's like, truly, there's there 476 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: has to be a reckoning and you know, a real 477 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: acknowledgement of like class struggle and mobility as it relates 478 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: to all of this. But instead you have like the 479 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: richest assholes circle jerking so they can hopefully in their minds, 480 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: just die peacefully while we're all left to deal with 481 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: like the real funked up parts. Yeah, and like it 482 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: just feels so you know, like empty. I will say 483 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: the poll quote about the fossil fuel lobby, let's see 484 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: more than the combined delegations of the eight worst affected countries. 485 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: There is probably something to be said for like the 486 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: worst eight worst affected countries. I would that money are 487 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: the eight poorest countries in the world or near near that, 488 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: And and there is probably a thing where it's like, yes, 489 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: those people need to be there to advocate for themselves, 490 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: but like they're you know, their their stance is sort 491 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: of clear, and they're fighting, like what what are they 492 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna do at this conference, Like hey, stop doing this 493 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: to us and Americo will say no, which is happening now, 494 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: like as by that NBC article where you know this, 495 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: I think somewhere in Polynesia, this representative is like, you know, 496 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: trying to be like this is where the water's at, 497 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, by rolling up and then yeah, it's true, 498 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: there's indigenous activists. There's so many activists there as well, 499 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: screaming at the top of their lungs and they're like 500 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: this whole thing is absurd, like when you walk into it, 501 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: like these people, this is not has nothing to do 502 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: with like our sincere reckoning with what you know, what 503 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: our energy mixes and our carbon emissions are. Yeah, and 504 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: then the class of it is like by the time, 505 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: even like middle class American voters feel some of this 506 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: in a reasonable sense, like the rest year, it's beyond 507 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: too late, beyond too late. Yeah, it's it's an apocalypse, 508 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: but it's vegan. It's great. I also feel like the 509 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: way this is adding a lot of brains is that 510 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, people are probably like aware that not enough 511 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: is being done, but then like Greta Thumberg is being 512 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: like turned into I don't know. I was listening to 513 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: like a not serious podcast that just is sort of 514 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: people riffing, and like they were talking about Greta Thunberg 515 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: is like this, like the world is ending, we must 516 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: all like sort of doom and gloom type ship. And 517 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like people are I don't know that 518 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: that's like the face of climate change is now just 519 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna be like negative, like yeah, it's a bunch. I mean, 520 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: it's Cassandra. It literally is just like she could just 521 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: predict the future as much as she wants, but no one, 522 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, no one will believe it. Yeah, I mean 523 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: I think despite her like very clear eyed, like this 524 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: is horseship assessment of what's happening. I think the other 525 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: side of that is that there are a lot of 526 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: people now that like dumerism is becoming of an attractive 527 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: proposition to certain groups to just insist that ship's fucked, 528 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: it's too late, don't even fucking bother and let's just 529 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: accept it. And that's just like good, yeah, absolutely not 530 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: like things can be done. And I think it's an 531 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: absurd notion to just say, let's just lean into the 532 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: dumerism aspect of it. But it's hard to stay optimistic 533 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: when you see the people that are supposed to be 534 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: making the decisions be like, yeah, and we'll give you 535 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of money to come back climate change. 536 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: And also that's a debt generating loan. Right Yeah. The dumerism, 537 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: I would suspect is like fueled by the Koke Brothers. 538 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: But I feel like even they have to understand that 539 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: are funded by them. But I feel like even they 540 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: have to understand that that only goes so far before 541 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: people just start eating the Koke Brothers, right likely. Yeah, 542 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: but then it's like arguing about whether to eat the 543 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Koke Brothers is what you know, defends them, defends their 544 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: power for another couple of years, and then yeah, let's 545 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: check in with somebody who's a little bit more down 546 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: to earth, and that is your boy, our boy, Howard Schultz. Yeah, 547 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: who is you know, He's not like specifically mentioning the 548 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: fact that like some of his stores are thinking about unionizing, 549 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of his employees are thinking about unionizing. He's 550 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: just like throwing out stories that he knows. Just Hey, 551 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: you guys about to vote putting this out there, I 552 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you guys about to vote on you can unionizeing? Okay, alright, alright, 553 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: Well I just want to say hey, I'm hey, I'm 554 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm Howard, just a guy, concerned shareholder. In fact, I'm 555 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: the largest shareholder of Starbucks stock. I used to be 556 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: the CEO, UM, but I just wanted to come talk 557 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: to you about you know, you got this important vote 558 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: coming up, and I just kind of want to extol 559 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: the virtues of Starbucks as a company. So he went 560 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: to go lobby these workers in a Buffalo where three 561 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: stores are going to vote on unionizing, which could have 562 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: vast implications not just across Starbucks, but in like the 563 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: quick service industry because they have such a large share 564 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: of workers. And this man had the hopes of Chippotle 565 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: on his shoulders as he went up in front of 566 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: these people. How are you gotta na this one, bro, 567 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna don't make money. So they've been first of all, 568 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: Starbucks be doing all kinds of union busting ship up 569 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: until this point, you know, like having mandatory anti union meetings, 570 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: anti union emails, they temporary closed to unionizing stores under 571 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: the guise of like, no, we it's a training way 572 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: to do a training day, That's what it was. And 573 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: then Denzel Washington made them smoke BCP on accident and 574 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: then made a fire them because they passed. They popped 575 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: on their drug test. You know, they gave pay raises 576 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: to sort of be like, here's maybe more bread and 577 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: a circus or two will keep them at bay. None 578 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: of that has really been working. So he went on 579 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: to speak and he said all this stuff about like 580 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: just being like, oh, we did we got you know, 581 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: stock options for you guys. We're doing healthcare before other people. 582 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I'll be fair, their benefits are pretty 583 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: good as compared to other, you know, comparable jobs, but 584 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: let's be real in terms of like your humanity not 585 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: doing enough. And so everyone was just sort of like 586 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: they're kind of like, yeah, we get it. It's so great. 587 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: What's what's your point here? Until the end of his 588 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: forty five minute discussion, he evokes the Holocaust and he 589 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: as he says before, he's like, I'm Jewish. I went 590 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: to speak to a rabbi when I was in Israel 591 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: and he told me this story and it just really 592 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: resonated with me, and he begins telling this room full 593 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: of Starbucks employees about the altruism that was happening during 594 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: the Holocaust. So let me play this for you. Men 595 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: was separated from women, and women was separated from children, 596 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: and one person for every six was given a blanket, 597 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: one blanket for every six people. And the person who 598 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: got the blanket had to decide what to do with 599 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: this blanket that I have for myself. And not everyone, 600 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: but most people. Most people shared their blanket with five 601 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: other people. And the Rabbi says, to me, take your 602 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: blanket and go share it with five other people. And 603 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: so much of that story is threaded into what we 604 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: have tried to do at Starbucks. Share. Oh that is amazing. 605 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: Like I had read that this happened, but I hadn't 606 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: heard it until just now. It's the idea of sharing 607 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: is so profound, is so like mind bending, like that 608 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: even just what I'm saying, maybe they need insurance, You're right, 609 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: what the fuck he's like? And then they didn't keep 610 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: it for themselves and let everybody else freeze their death. 611 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Wait a second, hold on, take me back a little bit. 612 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: Let's row one a second, because you said that only 613 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: one person for every six guy, So what the funk 614 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: would they? What are you talking about? Man? They're probably 615 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: not as warm as they could be. But I did, Rabbi. 616 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: I did share it with as the CEO. I shared 617 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: it with the CEO, the s VP of global strategy, 618 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: the CFO that you know, the the c suite people 619 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: like and we split the profits. It was a great 620 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: blanket we shared. But in this instance, the idea that 621 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: I'm sorry man, like this metaphor that the multinational corporation 622 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: is in the is that they're in the trend car. 623 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: There's another workers like and saying like we gotta work together. Man. 624 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: It's like if anything in this you would be the 625 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Nazis because they were they were in control of blanket distribution, 626 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: and you are here giving people one fucking blanket, like 627 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: like a really considered the power dynamics here well, also 628 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: like that. The weird thing about the metaphor is it 629 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: doesn't work because it's like it falls apart in the 630 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: most people and then it falls apart what he says, 631 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: but not everybody. And it's like, hey, guess what if 632 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: they were in a union, maybe even if like everybody 633 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: would have had to share their blankets, and it would 634 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: have been the right thing to do, and it would 635 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: have elevated all of us. But like it actually is, 636 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 1: like I don't know that all those like needless people 637 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: freezing to death is exactly what the Union does. This 638 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: is who you want in charge of your life is 639 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: somebody who like this is also a story apparently he's 640 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: told at like shareholder meetings, somebody who has one anecdote 641 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: that has just like fucking stabbed into their brain. Like 642 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: what the funk, man, I'm you guys have my mind 643 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: is fucking blown here. So what they one person gave 644 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: it to the other people. It's just like it doesn't 645 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: even make fucking sense. But like he thinks there's one 646 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: historical instance of selflessness and sharing that he keeps fucking 647 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: bringing up. And this is the person you want in 648 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: charge of, like your tiny mitigating factor is. I did 649 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: think this was a more classic anti union parable, and 650 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: I for a moment truly thought the punchline was going 651 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: to be and everyone who shared, all six people died, 652 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: but everybody kept the blacket for themselves at least wanted 653 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: six or five. Yea happen at your stores. I don't 654 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: know we're looking, they're kind of underperforming, so we may 655 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: shut him down. I don't know, I don't know. I 656 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: don't like it's it's really something else, especially when you 657 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: have this man who became a billionaire off the backs 658 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: of the people he's talking to in that room, you 659 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just being like, hey man, 660 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm just look, I know I've been extracting all of 661 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: my wealth from your labor. I'm just asking for like 662 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: a momentary pause in the smoke and just maybe this 663 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: story will will just persuade you. I will say. Obviously, 664 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, listeners can't see the video, but maybe they 665 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: can find it. Maybe it's link in the show. I 666 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how it's on Starbucks official channel. 667 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: It is, truly though. Actually it's been a while since 668 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: I've seen like a Radisson hotel room configured quite the 669 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: way it was, because it was basically like hotel chairs, 670 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: but it was in the round. So he's like, a yeah, 671 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: just what a what an unnerving way to to your 672 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: fourced anti union speech. Very unpleasant office to say, it 673 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: did not go. I mean, I don't know, a lot 674 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: of people were just left confused. But the voting is 675 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: supposed to begin this week, actually today, but Starbucks has 676 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: been trying to delay that vote from happening. But you 677 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: know what, hats off to use Starbucks, fucking get your ship, 678 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: hands off to your assets. Yeah, let's just check in 679 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: real quick with what it's like in other countries where 680 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: a capital doesn't have all the power and people like 681 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: Howard Schultz is not like the person in charge of 682 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: making all the decisions, and like pro labor laws actually stick. 683 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: Portugal has made it so a lot of businesses are 684 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: committing to remote work being part of our new reality 685 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: and our new reality. They're giving more flexible options to 686 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: their employees, and you know, people are asking for their 687 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: to be like some boundaries that they can like put 688 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: up between their home life and their work life, because 689 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: that is something that will happen when you work from home. 690 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: Is that like suddenly you're just working around the clock. 691 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: And so Portugal had a kind of unique take on this. Yeah, yeah, 692 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: they're helping, you know, according to their Socialist party government 693 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: have released their new legislation that's been voted through and 694 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: these rules again meant to help these people who are 695 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: working remotely. Because also I think they're also interested in 696 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: creating a country like a culture too that would attract 697 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: more people who do remote work as well. So under 698 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: these new rules this is am employers could be penalized 699 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: for contacting employees after work and will be forced to 700 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: pay for increased expenses as a result of working from home, 701 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: like gas and electricity bills. And further, these rules will 702 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: be implemented to aid employees at home, such as banning 703 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: employers from monitoring their workers at home and ensuring workers 704 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: must meet with their boss every two months to stave 705 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: off isolation. And you're like, not everything passed. There was 706 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: a they were trying to get something called the Right 707 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: to Disconnect past, which would have been given workers ability 708 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: to switch off work devices, but that I guess was 709 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: that didn't get the votes get needed. But these are 710 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: very like common sense things like where I think companies 711 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: now as a person you have to create those boundaries 712 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: or you're like, I don't look at if that email 713 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: comes in after five, it might as well come in 714 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: at nine am tomorrow. But it's it's difficult because especially 715 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: with Americans, have this like fucked up idea of working 716 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: from home and what it means to what labor toiling 717 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: shoulders shouldn't look like that. It's easy to get like 718 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: a fucking email at eight and be like, fuck, I 719 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: work from home, so I better fucking start doing this 720 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: now when it might not be necessary. So I don't know, like, 721 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: in a way, I feel like this is something that 722 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: could happen in the US because it seems like very 723 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: common sense. But we also we live in a country 724 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: where there's a moneyed group to fucking be against anything. 725 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: So I can only imagine like the managers United fucking 726 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: like pack starting like paying for ads. It would be like, 727 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: are you like workers are fucking around? You know what? 728 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean to try and want something like this, but 729 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know refreshing to hear at least it's also 730 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: just like it's a line in the sand, but the 731 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: reality of ship like this is like these rules will 732 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: be bent, like and you know it's this is more 733 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: of like a beginning of a negotiating position, because what's 734 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: going to happen is like positively, I know technic clue 735 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do this, but could you get 736 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: these files ready? And the thing is that's like most people, 737 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: like at least Americans would be like okay, fine, and 738 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: this just hopefully would give sort of recourse to big 739 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: abuses or at least change that the power dynamic and 740 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: change the whole culture. It seems like like you said 741 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: a common sense thing, but I thought you were about 742 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: to give this point when you said when I've hated 743 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: a job, because let me tell you when I've hated 744 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: a job. These boundaries are so fucking defined. I'm like, yeah, 745 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: let me tell you. I'm not answering this email at 746 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: six like me, like because it's outside of work hours, 747 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: excuse me, but I guess it's it is true, Like 748 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: that's that is the sort of like thing that like, yeah, 749 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: when I when I had a day job that I hated, 750 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: it was like and I did feel unable to do 751 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: ship like this, and I absolutely would have just been like, 752 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: all right, I'll get to it. Get to it at 753 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: nine am, right when when I clock in fools. Yeah, yeah, 754 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: you can see companies being like, actually, our working hours 755 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 1: are now twelve noon to eight pm. Yeah, you feel 756 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: like those are the small ways that but that's at 757 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: least defined that then it's like then you can all right, 758 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: if we're agreeing to this, then I'll get to your 759 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: ship at twelve right, right, All right, let's take a 760 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to talk conspiracy 761 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: influencers and we're back. So, uh, Demilovado is now a 762 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: conspiracy influencer, which I feel like it's going to be 763 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: a more and more popular move. Like as of right now, 764 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of celebrities who get criticized by 765 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: people on the left just turn in a like reactionary 766 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: way to the right and the conspiracy world. But I 767 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: do feel like more and more that this is just 768 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: going to be sort of a mainstream thing for celebrities 769 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: to do. It looks like it's a check right. So Demilovado, 770 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: who has eighteen are hundred eighteen million fucking followers on Instagram, 771 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: posted to their Instagram thrilled to be and at we 772 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: are Gaya Ambassador. So this is this platform called Gaya 773 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: quote Understanding the world around us, parenthetical, the gnomes and 774 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: the unknown is so exciting to me. And you know, 775 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: Demi is promoting promoting a site that is my most 776 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: people's observations, just a hub for conspiracy theory videos like 777 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: where many are meant to look like these earnest documentaries 778 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: that are like blowing the lid on ship and you 779 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of see like the business aspects of this. Uh. 780 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 1: This is from a report in The Daily Beast. Quote 781 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: on a Lovado themed Gaia page for their fans, the 782 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: singer supporters can view a free episode of a Guya 783 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: show about Quote an ancient space program before signing up 784 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: for an eleven nine monthly Guia membership. Lovado's quote handpicked 785 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: favorite shows, according to the website, include a series positing 786 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: that Atlantis was real and that humanity is living in 787 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: the aftermath of a battle between giants and lizard like 788 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: Reptilian's okay um and that's sort of like the where 789 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: you land if you go, you navigate off of their post. 790 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: So it's clear that there's a money making endeavor for sure. 791 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: But like this ship on this platform is not like 792 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: all just like you know, art Bell, hardy heart horror 793 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of you know, like out there stuff, Like there's 794 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,439 Speaker 1: some truly wild shit on there. Like this is again 795 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: from their assessment of on Daily Beast Quote guyas videos 796 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: are slickly produced to look like genuine documentaries, documentaries with 797 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: some prominent figures in the anti vaccine movement. The site 798 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: also has been called Quote a hub for Q and On, 799 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: Guya's own corporate culture is a wash in conspiracy theories, 800 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: employees discussed Q and On and info wars, according to 801 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: a report from Business Insider, Confusingly, employees were told that 802 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: materials promoting a documentary about a benevolent alien species called 803 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: the quote Blue Avians required approval from the Blue Avians, 804 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: as if they were real. Look, Guya denies that allegation 805 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: miles because there's documentation. I don't know, it seems like 806 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: probably just based on what we've learned about celebrities, there's 807 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: probably more of them that are susceptible than are currently 808 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: kind of openly susceptible to this sort of thinking. And 809 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: the only thing that's sort of preventing it is I 810 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: don't know, like advisors or something. And I just feel 811 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: like more and more as there it becomes here that 812 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: there's money to be made here, that this is going 813 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: to be a thing. Yeah, I mean, it feels like 814 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: the the normal backstop against this kind of ship is 815 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: that this stuff has no like predictive value, Like like 816 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: believing in this stuff doesn't further your like understanding of 817 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: the world. It doesn't tell you what's going to happen. 818 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: Next in any sort of remote way, and it doesn't work, 819 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: like the same with the anti vax stuff. It's right, 820 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: so you can say iver mect in whatever or like 821 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: your immune systems just is good. But the reality is 822 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: it's like fucking you know, Republicans are just dying and 823 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: anti VAXs people are just dying at higher rates than 824 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: than people are vaccinated, and like you can't talk your 825 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: way out of that. So it is it just feels 826 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: like normally reality just kicks in eventually, right, Like it's 827 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: just not helpful. It doesn't give you anything to think 828 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: the world is flat you know, you're just gonna die 829 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: in a rocket crash at the extreme or like you know, 830 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: it's just it doesn't work or do anything. So I mean, 831 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't It's like usually the hard nosed Republican of it, 832 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: right is like okay, okay, but you're not a hippie lunatic. 833 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 1: We have to like, you know, these these warplanes still 834 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: need to fly, and the physics of blue avians doesn't 835 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: get us there. I don't know, just normally, like the 836 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: money people step in, I guess that's what I'm saying. No, 837 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: it's just that you don't know enough about blue Avian technology. 838 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: But sure, yeah, but it's like like, let's go, let's 839 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 1: fucking head to head, my my, like a college science 840 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: versus blue Avian theories. Let's go. I think it's like, 841 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at it, you the one 842 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: thing that it is the danger to me is that 843 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: by doing this, it normalizes conspiracy conspiratorial content at the 844 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: very least. It's not being like, oh, ship, you're looking 845 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: at that ship now. It's like, well, Demilovado is like 846 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: feeling this stuff, and I don't know, I might check 847 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: it out because I funk with Demi. But that's where 848 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: I see, you know, from there, I believe there's definitely 849 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: going to be a percentage of people who will get 850 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: fully pulled in now and may begin you know, it 851 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: starts off with some ship about an ancient space program 852 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: and then turns into full blown like anti Semitic, anti 853 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: black whatever, fascist nonsense. And I think that's where like, 854 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: that's the grim part of this is thinking like, oh, 855 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: you can bankroll, like you can normalize this sort of 856 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, problematic perception of the world by getting more 857 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: seemingly just mainstream celebrities cut him a check, and then 858 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: they say Hey, man, I'm sucking with guya. Come check 859 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: it out. There's some really cool stuff in there and 860 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: cut to you know, who knows what. But I guess 861 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is like that's always been there. 862 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, oh I I you know, it's like 863 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: you've all there's always been sort of like crystals becomes 864 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: protocols of the Elders of Zio. Like it's just like 865 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: it's just like that pipeline has always been there. And 866 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: I guess the Internet amplifies it and quickens it. But 867 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, like right, I guess like 868 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: if it were me right, and I'm like nineteen and 869 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: fucking you know, method man is like, yo, check out 870 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: this nine eleven video. I'm all that ship. I'm all 871 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: over that ship, you know, like where I'm like, I 872 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I funk with him heavy and if 873 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: he's saying like in his personal life is something industry, 874 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I want to I want to know. 875 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's interesting and I think that's where, you know, 876 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are susceptible to that. 877 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of ship. I thought celebrities 878 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: were like doing right, and I was like, that's pretty cool, 879 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: and I like or just like an adulthood that you like, 880 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: you know something. And it's like, so I'm saying, like, 881 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: from that hundred to eighteen million, what's that sliver of 882 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: people who you can be now converted? I think that's 883 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 1: where yeah, yeah, And it just feels like there's also 884 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: a doubling down thing happening now where in the past, 885 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: if method Man released that statement, people might you know, 886 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: criticize Method Man, and the method Man would come out 887 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: with a statement because his publicist asked him to. And 888 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: now it feels like, I don't know that, like the 889 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thing, the Kyrie Irving thing, like there's just 890 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: sort of a you know, a willingness to just be 891 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: like no, fuck funk everything, and you know, the the 892 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: whole motive for pushing back on this sort of thing 893 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: in the past had been the profit motive, right like that, like, well, 894 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any roles anymore or whatever. But 895 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: now if there's a concede, like a valid form of 896 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: getting rich off of this sort of ship, like, then 897 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: why you know not I'm not suggesting that Kyrie Irving's 898 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: agent is telling him to continue to hold out, but 899 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: like you know, Demilovado's manager might be looking at this 900 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, well still there's money. Yeah. I 901 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: mean that that is actually sort of the like upsetting thing. 902 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: I I I noticed it when the Atlanta Baseball team 903 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: like doubled down on being racist, because like previously, it 904 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: seemed at least like clear that corporate America's calculus was 905 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: that like the racist, bigoted, reality denying portion was not 906 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: the profitable portion, And now it does seem there's like 907 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: a corporate like no corporation does it out of the 908 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,959 Speaker 1: goodness of the heart. They're just trying to make money. 909 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: So like you know, as like disingenuous as like diversity 910 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: initiatives and things like that are what they at least 911 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: are is a canary in the coal mine that like 912 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: at the back of the like business analysis that is 913 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: supposedly all these people care about. They know at their 914 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: heart that like America is moving in one direction or 915 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: the world is moving in one direction. And now now 916 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: that you're seeing like major billion you know, multimillion if 917 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: not billion dollar organizations toe that line a little bit. 918 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: Like again the MLB and and the Atlanta just being like, yeah, 919 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: come on, come on in Trump, let's let's do the 920 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: tom Hawk chop and ship like that. It's like, that's 921 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: not troubling because of the on its face racism. It 922 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: is troubling that like a billionaire decided like this is 923 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: where I'm putting my chips, right, you know, that's like 924 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: regardless of personal belief So it's like at every level, right, 925 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: Like they're the people there's a group of wealthy donors 926 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: who are funding like the CRT, you know, like Outrage Ship, 927 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: and there's so many things that are now being bankrolled. 928 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: I just these wealthy people who are just doing doing 929 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: it very stealthily, yeah, and like dragging us closer to it. 930 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: But they would always do it stealthily based on their 931 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: personal beliefs. But it's the doing it publicly part that 932 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's now troubling. Like that means like 933 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: you got I I just assume every billionaire has repellent beliefs, 934 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: But among those repellent beliefs are a knowledge that the 935 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: rest of the world exists at like has their own 936 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: beliefs and you have to manipulate them. I don't know, 937 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like the the idea of like woke 938 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 1: values had has become like they do the you know, 939 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: pure gesture, not like actually anything substitutive, like thing addressing 940 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: racism or misogyny. But it's by removing an episode of 941 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: a show that has like black concenter or something, and 942 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: then that has become associated with, well, that's what woke 943 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: culture is. That's what criticizing you know, the tomahawk chop 944 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: as racist is. And I feel like there is a 945 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: mainstream cultural like backlash now where like woke has become 946 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: like associated with like, oh, the stupid thing that was 947 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: that was a big deal and and now is like 948 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: people are agreeing was like bad woke worrying about stuff 949 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: that's not even like a big deal actually really. And 950 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: also again it's just a thought killing cliche because now 951 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: James Carville can rather than you know, address like the 952 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: actual failings of the Democratic Party and you know, neoliberal platform, 953 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: like this whole ideology, it's just saying it's just the 954 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: woke stuff killed everything, and that word is enough you'll 955 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: go yeah, yea, rather than getting your fucking hands dirty 956 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, they're working people, poor people who 957 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: are not getting anything delivered. That was promised to them, 958 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: and why the fuck, Like, yeah, they're supposed to just 959 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: feel good about that. No, but it's easier to just 960 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: say throw out woke. Have CNN posit that question to 961 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: other senators and just completely shift the argument to say like, oh, 962 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: is being humane? Like is that woke? But rather than 963 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, underlining that, it's just easier to just go 964 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: down this debate. Yeah, but it's like the the embrace 965 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: of like the pure opposite of that, like the actual 966 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: like let's have Trump do the tomahawk chop, let's bring 967 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: him in. That's that's the thing. That's like even you know, 968 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: like every every fucking you know corporation embraces right wing values. 969 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: They it's always as far right as they think they 970 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: can get away with. And the fact that what they 971 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: think they can get away with has visibly shifted, I think, 972 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: is you're like that that means the fundamentals of America 973 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: are different than yeah, yeah, because what the most defense 974 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: the League had was like, well, we didn't invite him. 975 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: He like, I know, he said we invited him, but 976 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: he asked to go, and then we gave them tickets. 977 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: And it's still like the real thing would have just 978 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: said fuck off, dude. Yeah, it's like, hey, this is 979 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: just not a good time for the audience. We're trying 980 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: to cultivate like Mr President blah blah blah whatever, or 981 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: don't put TV like cameras on him. All tons of 982 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: ship they could do, right, because we seem to be 983 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: like from a cultural perspective, we seem to be just 984 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: cycling back through the same sort of values and periods 985 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: and events over and over again. I'm starting to wonder 986 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: if we're like headed for the anti woke like eighties 987 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties again, where it's like fucking you know, Reagan 988 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: culturally like was the thing and like conservatism was the thing, 989 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: and that was like reaction to you know, economic slowdown 990 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: and like the seventies and people. I think hopefully culture 991 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: is at least fractured enough, and like people, media is 992 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: not you know, good and bad way not such a 993 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: stranglehold such that, like you know, because the reality is 994 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: like in the eighties though that was the quote unquote 995 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: culture people were speaking up against. It just didn't have Twitter, 996 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: and like, you know, whole fully that remains the bulwark 997 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: against that ship. I guess maybe not as you see, 998 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, as we and other things, like the mainstream 999 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: media still has a like center right to hard right 1000 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: editorial remit but you know, hopefully it's like at least 1001 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: you can say other ship like for now right, yeah, 1002 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: when there's again when they take all the books out 1003 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: of libraries and leave it with men are from Mars, 1004 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 1: women are from Venus, the Bible, and a little gems. 1005 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: That's the most. That's pretty that's too subversive, my dude. 1006 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully that the yeah Larson is a visionary mile They 1007 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: won't know. No, I'm just saying this sneaks in because 1008 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: it's a comic and they completely don't understand the commentary 1009 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, that's one. Other dudes were rocking 1010 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Big Johnson. I was rocking Farside T shirts. Okay, That's 1011 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: how I let them know I was sensitive. Okay, Andrew, 1012 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: such a pleasure of having you, man, Where can people 1013 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: find you? Follow you? All that good stuff still on 1014 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: at Andrew te I think I'm trying to remember since 1015 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: the last time I was on maybe or maybe inclusive 1016 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: of the last time I was on RSS. Racist has 1017 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: gone independent. So if you feel like, you know, subscribing 1018 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: supporting us suboptimal Pods dot com and we just started 1019 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: selling merch, so I am very excited about the merch. 1020 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: I will just say the shirt. Maybe you've seen it 1021 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram, but one of the shirts we're selling is 1022 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: straight up the dumbest thing that has ever happened on 1023 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: our show. And I'm so proud of it. And I'll 1024 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: just leave it at that. I can't wait to see 1025 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: what it is. I thought you were saying that whole 1026 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: phrase was the T shirt. I'll just say it's it's 1027 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: one of those like hell Vetica ampersand shirts. What it says, 1028 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: duck around and find out, duck and around and and 1029 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: and find and and it's the it's the A N. 1030 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: D Ampersand for me, that is truly my proudest moment. Yeah, 1031 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: that is so dumb brilliant. Is there a tweet or 1032 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Yes, 1033 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: there are two things. One we talked about Dune. I 1034 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: was looking for the source for this meme and I 1035 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: couldn't find its. Apologies in advance, but it's a fake 1036 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: subtitled still from Dune when they're on the little prison 1037 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: planet and it opens on sarda car throat singing and 1038 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: then the second panel of the meme is it goes 1039 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: back to all the soldiers and it just says the 1040 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: ship slaps. Like having seen that me and before I 1041 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: went into the theater, I laughed out loud that like, 1042 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: this is so dumb, and I think that honestly motivated 1043 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: me to see that movie. I was like, I just 1044 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: want to see the throat singing and see the see 1045 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the soldiers groofing out to the throat singing. Miles where 1046 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? 1047 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray 1048 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and also the other pod for twenty Day Fiance with 1049 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandra, where you know, we're just just talking that ship, 1050 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: that ninety days ship. Some tweets that I like, let 1051 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: me get this one in uh couple actually uh. This 1052 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: is from James Austin Johnson at Shrimp j J quote. 1053 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: This is just a quote says TV does not get 1054 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: better than this, and then he says, eight year old 1055 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: me watching wind Benstein's money understanding throw percent of what 1056 01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: is being said. I was just like, yep, I loved it. 1057 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I was I think of that. I was punching way 1058 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: above in that era too, and this next one is 1059 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: from what past guest at your underscore telling parents of 1060 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: a crying baby handle that motherfucker, I will, and then 1061 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: gently rocking that motherfucker to sleep. That's great, let's see 1062 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Max wu at Max Upo tweeted starting to believe the 1063 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: other sperms were smarter than I and lost on purpose. 1064 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: Andrewnetto tweeted Clark can't go into the eye doctor and 1065 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: receiving twenty seven different bills because every time he tried 1066 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: on a new pair they thought he was someone else. 1067 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: And then Maggie Winters tweeted, where's your precious son now? Beatles? 1068 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Which other is really made me happy? You can find 1069 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, you can find 1070 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily 1071 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan pay it and 1072 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: a website Daily zy Guys dot com, Whey post tire episodes, 1073 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: and our foot note where we link off to the 1074 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode, as well 1075 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, 1076 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? You know? 1077 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: It's time from some smooth electoral vibe R and b 1078 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: U from the artist Dijon d I j O N. 1079 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: And this track is called The Dress. If you like 1080 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: that sort of synthy eight oh wady sounding vibe but 1081 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: like with a little bit of heart and soul to it, 1082 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 1: this track The Dress, It's gonna take you there. So 1083 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: check out The Dress by Dijon. All right, we'll go 1084 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: check that out. The Daily Zychus a production by Heart 1085 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Radio from our podcast from my heart Radio visit the 1086 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple podcast wherever you listen to your 1087 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us this morning. 1088 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 1: But we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending 1089 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all then By