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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out.

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Speaker 2: Now Here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 1: Welcome int Unbreakable mental Wealth Podcast with Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Glazer and really pumped for my guest today.

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Speaker 1: You guys know who I do a lot of work

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Speaker 1: with combat vets, and he is a combat vet.

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Speaker 3: But you guys also know that I've.

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Speaker 1: Done a lot of work recently with our first responders

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Speaker 1: out here in Malibu.

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Speaker 3: He's also a first responder. He's a fireman. You also

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Speaker 3: know I've had a lot of musicians on here. He's

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Speaker 3: also a musician. So, yeah, what have you done on Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: This is what this guy does. He is a musician.

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Speaker 1: Who who's out a couple of hits, but also he

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Speaker 1: puts a lot of his experiences into his songs. I'm

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Speaker 1: really excited that I got the chance to meet him

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Speaker 1: and have him come on and tell his story.

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Speaker 3: My dude, John Preston, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Man? Hey, let's up, and let's not forget poking at

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Speaker 2: it and screenwriter, filmmaker, but the most important dad that's

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Speaker 2: been Yeah, those are number one, But yeah, man, it's

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Speaker 2: been a it's been a wild ride and we're just

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Speaker 2: we're still riding.

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Speaker 3: You know that's cool, man.

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Speaker 1: I love like you're right is wild And you know,

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Speaker 1: we have a vitual friend, Greg who's kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: introduced me to you, and he's like, man, you gotta

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Speaker 1: tell this guy's story. And he's like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: need to do a lot of work with vets, and

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Speaker 1: I can do Ben and the first Responders I do.

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Speaker 1: And then well he's a musician. I'm like, what is

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Speaker 1: He's like all three of them put in one and

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Speaker 1: they all play into each other.

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Speaker 3: So I want you to tell everybody kind of your story.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you the floor here and start

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Speaker 3: where you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean I come from from very humble beginnings. Say,

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Speaker 2: I am a Northern Kentucky veteran, lived my life there

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Speaker 2: of life. Families from Cincinnati grew up there on that

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Speaker 2: cusp of basically living on a farm without full farm life.

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Speaker 2: We rented out a tobacco farm to the neighbors. They

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Speaker 2: came over and farmed. We farmed with them. Just a

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Speaker 2: different world than what I've been now here in California,

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Speaker 2: living and chasing the dream. Yee, I'm rocking a Bengals hat.

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Speaker 2: But there's a reason for that. First of all, my

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Speaker 2: bad Miles Garrett for rocking a Bengals hat with a

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Speaker 2: municipal shirt. But I mean this will have been back

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Speaker 2: to me for a long time.

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Speaker 3: So Producer Ballers man, that's my guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's a bad dude right there. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I grew up with the dad that was a Vietnam veteran.

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Speaker 2: Both my brothers were Marines. I kind of had no choice.

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Speaker 2: I remember, dude, I was not on any good path.

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Speaker 2: I was hanging with the wrong people, doing the wrong things,

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Speaker 2: getting in a lot of trouble. My brother Michael at

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Speaker 2: that point in life. I was fearless because I knew

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Speaker 2: Paras Island. You know. So my whole family was Marines.

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Speaker 2: My father was a Purple Heart recipient. But I was

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Speaker 2: I was different. I knew I was different, and I

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Speaker 2: kind of had always been that way, and I think

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Speaker 2: I know where it comes from. But I had art

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Speaker 2: had music constantly playing, and I had this idea of

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Speaker 2: But back to whearing this. I'm born January twentieth, nineteen

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Speaker 2: day one of my life, I'm on TV as a

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Speaker 2: gonna do it under what it is. We're getting out

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Speaker 3: But you went enjoy the Marines. Yeah, yeah, you put

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Speaker 3: your music career on hold. Were you working on stuff?

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Speaker 2: Like when I was young, I didn't. I wouldn't say

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Speaker 2: I take it serious. Right. I knew I was super talented.

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Speaker 2: I knew I could write, I knew I could play,

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Speaker 2: but I did have a dream of becoming this music

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Speaker 2: I go into Marine Corps. Nothing's on hold. I'm actually

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Speaker 2: growth as a writer, understanding things that I didn't understand

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Speaker 2: before because I wasn't time. My dad handed me a

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Speaker 2: guitar at like ten years old, taught me a couple

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Speaker 2: I'm away from home for the first time. I'm out

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Speaker 2: I graduated for the first time in my life. I

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Speaker 2: walk with my class. I was a shithead and marines are.

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Speaker 3: Great man to help you grow up in a hurry.

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Speaker 3: And then you went, so where did you serve?

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Speaker 2: So I initially ended up in twenty nine Palms as

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Speaker 2: Then we have nine to eleven happen while I'm in

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Speaker 2: I'm out on a field off. We're literally out running

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Speaker 2: like a combined up arms exercise. Right, So we're there.

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Speaker 2: The colonel pulls everyone aside and said, he gives us speech.

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Speaker 2: We're all looking at each other like, what are you

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Speaker 2: This is the way we're approaching this. So everyone is

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Speaker 2: It's two thousand, you know, or nine to eleven happening

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Speaker 2: going to war, dude, We're going to war. This is real.

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Speaker 2: Something I had dreamt of my whole life. My father

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, my unit finally goes Diraq.

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Speaker 2: I don't go in the first Surge. We were stuck

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Speaker 2: And then in two thousand and four I spent six

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Speaker 2: we were outside the wire. We probably about one hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the problems that you have is you

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Speaker 3: Fuck that.

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Speaker 2: But we all but we all come from humble beginnings.

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about that, I don't have anything to prove.

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Speaker 3: What was your transition out of the military difficult?

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Speaker 2: No, it was weird. Hey, I'm in Iraq. I'm I'm this,

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Speaker 2: good Good America while I'm over there. We're we're out

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Speaker 2: on a mission. We're opening a school for for the

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Speaker 2: we were there. This this wasn't a dirty war. We

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Speaker 2: second time seven Marines when we were there was to

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Speaker 2: So we're they're opening a school and these these kids

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Speaker 2: Guddha Medica, good Gouda Medica and dude. I like, to

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Speaker 2: that point, as a twenty two year old kid, I'd

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Speaker 2: never felt anything like that in my life. I felt purpose,

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Speaker 2: I felt real. I felt like, yeah, I know that

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Speaker 2: the Marine Corps kind of messed up. I know that

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Speaker 2: I haven't enjoyed this four years, but this moment right

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Speaker 2: and we saw a future for their people. We saw

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Speaker 2: Good America. I remember a buddy of mine from New York,

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Speaker 2: like Mike who She's like Mike Mike killed himself, and

430
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, who are you talking about, Mike, Mike

431
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 2: who She's like, John, your fucking brother shot himself and

432
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: everything I knew was gone, Everything Joe that I knew

433
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: was gone. This is on camera. We were filming. We were,

434
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: you know, covering this. We had been shooting a documentary

435
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: for the last two years. And I can't talk. I

436
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: can't think. I can't My big brother when my dad

437
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: was dealing with his alcohol problems, he was nine years

438
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: older than me. My big brother taught me how to drive,

439
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: coached my sports teams, taught me how to talk to girls,

440
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: did everything. And then he was the one that kept

441
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 2: fixing me when I was fucking up. You know. He

442
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: was the one that kept writing me when I was wrong,

443
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: and he was the one that I looked up to.

444
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: Is this guy can never do anything wrong. You know,

445
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: he could never do anything wrong. We went head to

446
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: head at the hospital because my dad had a dn

447
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: R that we found twelve days into him being on

448
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: life support. I didn't want to let him go. Mike

449
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: wanted to do the right thing. You know, my big brother,

450
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: who was my best friend my whole life. We stopped

451
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: talking six months before he shot, we had just started

452
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: communicating again. We used to go to Bengals training camp

453
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: every year, so it was a random text where I

454
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: think we were talking about, you know, somebody on the team,

455
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: Aj Green or somebody, and like what are they going

456
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: to do this year or something, And we had just

457
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: opened up our conversation again, you know, and just started

458
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: talking and I honestly think he already knew what he

459
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: was going to do. Wow, And I think he just

460
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 2: wanted to, in a way, yeah, in a way say goodbye.

461
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: So you've taken what happened to him, though, and you've

462
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: embarked in a whole different journey now I help other

463
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: people dive into that.

464
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: For me, honestly, within to the six months of him passing,

465
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: I went crazy, writing, producing, working, doing music right, and

466
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: I put two songs in the top two hundred in

467
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: the world in like six months of losing down. I

468
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: was I was now under the umbrella Universal with Concord Entertainment,

469
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: and I'm grinding and I again still feel like I'm

470
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: not doing enough. TV appearances aren't enough, songs aren't enough, videos,

471
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: aren't enough. None of it's enough. I made a decision

472
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 2: that I wanted to basically manifest what I was feeling,

473
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: Manifest what my nieces and nephews were feeling, Manifest what

474
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: my mother was feeling, my brother's wife, this whole family

475
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: that had been ripped to pieces by this battle, the

476
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: struggle that nobody even knew my brother was having. And

477
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: I said, how could I do that? And my decision was, Okay,

478
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to put on a big ass heavy pack

479
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: and since there's twenty two veteran suicides every day, I'm

480
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: going to walk twenty two miles a day, every day

481
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: with fifty pounds on my back and day yeah, yeah,

482
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I mapped it. I decided since I was a firefighter

483
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: in Palo Alto, I would start there. That's where my

484
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: life is today. And this first hike, we went from

485
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Palo Alto to San Diego because San Diego is where

486
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: my dad went to boot camp. So it was like

487
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: where it all began, right where we all got that

488
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: envision in our heads to be marine. So I do

489
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: that walk absolutely hillacious, mass destruction. We end up midway

490
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: through it, I take over the whole project because we

491
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 2: were shooting in a documentary, and then I finish it, right,

492
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: you finish it, you crush it, you get through it.

493
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: It wasn't easy. It was the worst thing ever. And

494
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll get to that at the end of the podcast.

495
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: But we go on this mission. I accomplished the mission.

496
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the other side of the mission and

497
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm probably the most depressed I've been in my life.

498
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: Right and along the way, Jay, what's amazing about it

499
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: is a California firefighters are a cool thing on earth.

500
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: They really are, Like I know, you've probably met a

501
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: lot of us over time. They are amazing. I got

502
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: to a point where I needed help and they were there,

503
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: and we went almost down the whole state with support

504
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: just based solely on California firefighters, you know. And we

505
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: can do that because we make good money. We you know,

506
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: we're supported by our cities. Where so just a good

507
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: group of people that are ready to give their time

508
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: and their effort when effort is needed. So many people came,

509
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: they shared their stories, they became part of us. You know.

510
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: There are people from that first hike that I'm still

511
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: you know, I still communicate with weekly. There. You know,

512
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: people that now have told me and I've done this

513
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 2: at work. I've I've brought people back to life. You know.

514
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: I call them the heart starters, the old CPR arms.

515
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: But there are people now that that attest to the

516
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: work we did save their lives, brought them. They stopped.

517
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: They decided that that life was worth it, and everything

518
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: that we were talking about was worth it, and and

519
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: love was more important than leaving it, you know. And

520
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: I see it as nothing that has happened back there

521
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: means anything right now right here, you know, it happened

522
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: back there. That's a different world, that's a different time.

523
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: My body took the stress, but my soul and my

524
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: heart has to realize that I'm living for right now.

525
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: I jump off of every cliff in front of me

526
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: because I know if I jump, other people are going

527
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: to come with me. And I was thinking about I

528
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: was writing biography stuff, and I was thinking about just

529
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: all the different people I've inspired and now watching their

530
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: web of greatness and the things they're doing, and it's

531
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: so cool to see, yeah.

532
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: Pain to help others through their and that's exactly what

533
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: you've done. And you had another walk too, right from

534
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Paris Island to Cincinnati.

535
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we I end up. For the next two years

536
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: after the first hike, I'm making a film. I'm going,

537
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm shooting, I'm interviewing. On instinct, I go and knock

538
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: on Lev's front door. I go and knock on the

539
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: door of Leverage Management. Yeah, yeah, my guy. Yeah. So

540
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: I go down to Leverage Management and just knock like.

541
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm cool, right, And I run into like

542
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 2: an in turn that day, and I'm like, hey, dude,

543
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: I think you guys should know who I am. Here's

544
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: a film trip, right. And I had already met with

545
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Unrealistic Ideas, which is Marks and Lev's doc company, and

546
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: I started adding people on Instagram from Unrealistic Ideas and

547
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: kind of trying to tie all the knots together. I

548
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: was supposed to have a meeting with Leverage Management. This

549
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: guy Paul Sadowski, who just released the show with Unrealistic,

550
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: hits me and says if they say no, I want this,

551
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: I want it all, you know. And we're like hell yeah.

552
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: So we work up to this. We decide we're going

553
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 2: to hike again. After Paul and I sign a contract,

554
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: we start moving towards that I want to bring it home.

555
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: I want to take my brother. I want to come

556
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: home with this energy that I had in California. This

557
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 2: madness is insanity. My wife just retires as a San

558
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: Francisco firefighter. I asked her, Hey, you want to do

559
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: this with me. She says, oh, yes, this sounds stupid,

560
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: so she is all in. We trained for months and months.

561
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: I get a call from a friend who says, hey,

562
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: I saw your brother. I lost my wife to suicide

563
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: last year. We were childhood friends, we grew up together.

564
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: His dad used to pick my dad up after a

565
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: bad car accident and put him in the bathtub to

566
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: be clean. You know. So we go out, We bring Paul,

567
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: We shoot an incredible film and really just a different

568
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: hikes in California. In California, I struggled, and this one

569
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good because I'm sharing the pack with everyone.

570
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, I've got this concept of sharing the weight

571
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: and the three of us. But no fire support not

572
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: the same. It's the South. It's all volunteer departments. It's

573
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: smaller departments. There's more politics there. There's a lot of

574
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: things that we're dealing with that aren't normal. Literally make

575
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: it all the way to northern Kentucky before we get

576
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: our first piece of support. We do have fire departments

577
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: along the way, But it's not like everyone's jumping out

578
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: of the rig like, hey, let me take the pack

579
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: for you, dude. You know, it's a total different world there.

580
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying we didn't meet incredible people. Way

581
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: thirty two days, twenty two miles a day. We take

582
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: fifty pounds now and spread it between the three of us, myself,

583
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: my wife and Isaac Chandler. And lots of struggles throughout it,

584
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: lots of injuries, lots of you know, the whole thing

585
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: is a story on its own, and you know, we'll

586
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: chat about that at some point. I'll tell you all

587
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: about it. But it was insane. We get to northern

588
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: Kentucky and the world showed up. It was from Owen

589
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: County to Cincinnati, Ohio, four days of hiking, eighty eight miles.

590
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: It was a fucking parade. It was straight up pomp

591
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: and circumstances. We never didn't have a fire engine or

592
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: police vehicle in front of us with lights on. We

593
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: never walked off the road again. After grinding through the appellations,

594
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: almost getting killed by cars, this insanity, this near death

595
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: after near death, and then we paraded. They shut down.

596
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: I know you've been down to Paycorp. They shut down

597
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: during commute time the bridge from Newport, Kentucky to Cincinnati, Ohio.

598
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: My brother was a Newport police officer. When he passed away,

599
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Newport brought the house. It was every apparatus that they

600
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: had in their whole city. Led us across this bridge

601
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: and into Cincinnati, where my grandfather actually was a police officer,

602
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: and you know, walk into pay Court Stadium. I finished

603
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: on the fifty yard line. I make a decision. Then

604
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: I put my pack down on that big b and

605
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: and I tell the press and I tell the world.

606
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: You know, today I start walking for me. You know,

607
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: I've been walking for Mike for for years. I had

608
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: this realization while I was out there that I hadn't

609
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: let off the gas pedal since Mike had died. We

610
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: come back obviously, you know Greg. I started approaching Greg

611
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: and talking to Greg after the hike and ended up

612
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: signing with Lowbell Music Group. We released our video Rise,

613
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: which has a lot of this story, and it rises

614
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: that twenty year grind. I've been on man and uh

615
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: just never quitting. And and that's that's the message that

616
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: I've always tried to give out. I'm not anything special, dude,

617
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: I can't go out on the football field with with

618
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and look good, you know. But but I

619
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: don't stop and I never have. And I learned that,

620
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, through the hardships of life. And my goal

621
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: is always, you know, with with the music I released

622
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: or the work that I'm doing in the films. We're

623
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: writing a TV series right now, with these things that

624
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: it's always is it going to inspire? Is it going

625
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: to move? And is it going to change the direction

626
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: of somebody that might be heading the wrong way? So

627
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: that's it, you know, dude, an incredible story.

628
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: I love it. I love your life of service. And again,

629
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure your brother's proud of you now, and yeah,

630
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: you feel that. I'm gonna give you my last question.

631
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 3: I asked every one of my guests, give me your

632
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: unbreakable moment, the moment that should have broken you could

633
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: have didn't. As a result, you came through the other

634
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: side of that tune was stronger forever.

635
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a shadow moment. When I was ten

636
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: years old, my father was hit head on by a

637
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: drunk driver. He for almost a year didn't walk, Like

638
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: I said, Isaac's dad used to come and pick him

639
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: up and put him in the bathtub. He sat in

640
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: a hospital bed in our living room for nearly a year.

641
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: I see you for a long time, really really bad.

642
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Speaker 2: After that, his body was crushed to pieces, but his

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Speaker 2: brain was there. His head was there. It's like the

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Speaker 2: only thing left in all of that. Physical therapist shows

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Speaker 2: up at the house to teach Dad to walk again.

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Speaker 2: And it's day one of him learning to walk, and

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Speaker 2: I'm this little ten year old on the couch watching

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Speaker 2: all this happen. She gets my dad onto his feet

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Speaker 2: and he's shaking, holding onto the rails and he's okay, honey,

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Speaker 2: take a step. And my father takes the first step

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Speaker 2: and his whole body shaken. Now his face is porn

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Speaker 2: with tears, snotting everything that could come out, and he

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Speaker 2: he stops and she's like, Okay, you did a great job.

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Speaker 2: That's it. And he just shouts, fuck you, I'm fucking

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Speaker 2: walking and he takes another fucking step, right, and I like,

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Speaker 2: just one after the other. He gets probably three steps

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Speaker 2: in and then like kind of collapses and they, you know,

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Speaker 2: get him and move him and and that's the dad

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Speaker 2: I knew. I didn't know the guy that that My

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Speaker 2: brothers had the one that was dealing with Vietnam and

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Speaker 2: dealing with you know, the alcohol and those problems. I

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Speaker 2: knew that, Dad. So I'm two hundred miles into my

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Speaker 2: first hype with fifty pounds on my back and I

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Speaker 2: can barely walk again, and like I can't walk, we

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00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: pushed through. I end up having a whole group of

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Speaker 2: people push me physically to end this last this this

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Speaker 2: night ten or whatever it is, push me to the

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Speaker 2: finish line, throw the pack off, and just exhausted and

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Speaker 2: angry because I know if I keep going I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I go back. I decide, I make a decision. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to drive it until I have to quit.

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Speaker 2: We have to figure something out. I decide at that time,

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Speaker 2: I'm asking for help. I do it publicly on a

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Speaker 2: social media post. By noon that next day, there are

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Speaker 2: a thousand messages in my inbox. There are people driving

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Speaker 2: from different states to come meet us. There is a

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Speaker 2: whole world happening now to pick us up and move

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Speaker 2: us the other four hundred and five hundred miles down

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Speaker 2: the coast. I decide that I can take the pack off,

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Speaker 2: that I don't have to carry my own burdens anymore.

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Speaker 2: I can give it to someone else to help me

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Speaker 2: through this, and I don't carry the weight, you know,

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Speaker 2: for for a lot of it. And it was amazing,

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Speaker 2: Like as we move forward, my feet started healing, things

685
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Speaker 2: started happening. I never never didn't take a step, but

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Speaker 2: he damn right, I didn't carry all my burdens anymore.

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Speaker 2: And that was it, man, that made me real life. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Well it made me realize I'm not alone, you know,

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Speaker 2: and and that that really has inspired me moving forward,

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Speaker 2: you know, just to take these fucking risks in life,

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Speaker 2: you know, because I'm not alone, man.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. John Preston, I appreciate you sharing your unbelievable story. Again,

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Speaker 3: you've lived life of service for others, for you, He's

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Speaker 3: had several songs, hit songs rock and pop now right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah again, combat veteran Brols incredible messenger to help those

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Speaker 3: twenty two try and lower that number of twenty two

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Speaker 3: veterans today who take their own life. So sorry about

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Speaker 3: your brother, but it wasn't advantge. Just look at the

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Speaker 3: people you're helping. Dude.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's saved so many lives with a mistake. He

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Speaker 2: made so many lives. So I'm grateful. Jay rises out

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Speaker 2: world and we're going to keep moving. We're going to

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Speaker 2: keep pushing lover.

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Speaker 3: John Preston May keep walking. We'll walk this walk together

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Speaker 2: Brother, Absolutely, thanks Jay,