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Speaker 1: Senator Maggie Hassan is for reelection facing Republican Don bulldock

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Speaker 1: Um was not really seen as very terribly competitive, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of outside money has exactly, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of these races where Republicans have sort of made some

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Speaker 1: momentum at the at the last stretch here, and in

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Speaker 1: a really good Republican year, you could see Hassan, who

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Speaker 1: only one by a thousand votes in her last race,

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Speaker 1: to actually get kicked out of the Senate after just

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Speaker 1: one term. That would said tell us a lot about

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Speaker 1: what's about to happen for the rest of the night,

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Speaker 1: right exactly. And then there's a House race to that

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Speaker 1: sort of overlaps with that the first stich with the

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Speaker 1: Congressman Chris Pappas that's also based in that sort of

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Speaker 1: Manchester Sea coast area of New Hampshire, the most populous

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Speaker 1: part of the state, and so I think that that

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Speaker 1: state is really going to hinge on that area particularly.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible when you think, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this a lot with our panel over the months here

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Speaker 1: that you know, when Chris and NWN who decided not

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Speaker 1: to run for that Senate seat, Republicans kind of threw

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Speaker 1: it out, well, geez, you know that. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the end here. Maybe we only get

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Speaker 1: the house. Von Baldin has just proven to be a

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Speaker 1: very competitive force, and it really came late in the game,

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Speaker 1: and I saw it when I was on the ground

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Speaker 1: actually a couple of months ago during the primary where

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Speaker 1: establishment forces were coming in for a guy named Chuck

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Speaker 1: Morris who's the state Senate president up there, really trying

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Speaker 1: to get him over the line because they thought Buldock

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Speaker 1: was it was too radical or too extreme to win

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Speaker 1: a general election. And despite spending basically no money to

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Speaker 1: win the primary and is basically spending very little money

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Speaker 1: now has sort of this grassroots energy, some of it

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Speaker 1: I think built up for He ran for Senate in

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Speaker 1: twenty against Senator Geane Shakeen and didn't do as well.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get through the primary. Um, but Um clearly

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Speaker 1: has some sort of grassroots support in New Hampshire that

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Speaker 1: has got him through the primary and potentially into Senate.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you have been obsessed with one particular race,

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Speaker 1: and it's one that will You'll have to talk to

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Speaker 1: Rick about this effort. I am a mama grizzly and

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Speaker 1: all were up on my high lets. Somebody comes after

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Speaker 1: my cos she's running Sarah Pale in Alaska? What is

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Speaker 1: it that has your attention? How long are we going

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Speaker 1: to have to wait this one? I'm probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: filing stories from my in law's house in Michigan before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: That's the deal, right, exactly. Yeah. Alaska is a very

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Speaker 1: strange state in many ways, and one of them is

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Speaker 1: the way they sort of conduct their election. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the few that does ranked choice voting. When you

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Speaker 1: go into the ballot box, you don't just pick your

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Speaker 1: preferred candidate. You also talk about your second and your

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Speaker 1: third choice. And so in Alaska, former Governor Sarah Palin

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Speaker 1: is running again after losing a special election this summer

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Speaker 1: for a House seat there a lask only has one

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Speaker 1: House seat, but it flipped the Democrats over the summer

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Speaker 1: in a special election, making one more go of it.

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Speaker 1: You've been writing about this. Palin has been for Congress,

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Speaker 1: hinges on voters liking her second best, and that is

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Speaker 1: the deal when it comes to ranked choice, right. So

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Speaker 1: I think if we see similar results as we saw

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Speaker 1: in the special election, you'll see the Democrat, the incumbent

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman Mary Pultola, actually get the most support because there

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Speaker 1: are multiple Republicans of the race, both Palin and a

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Speaker 1: guy named Nick Bagott who actually comes from the Bigots

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Speaker 1: family um while though it is a Republican and not

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Speaker 1: a Democrat like the rest of his family. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: so what I expect expect to happen is that Paltola

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Speaker 1: will get the most on that first ballot question is

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Speaker 1: do enough voters say, well, my first choice didn't get through,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Nick Bagas or the libertarian on the ticket,

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Speaker 1: and then vote for Sarah Aileen instead. And so that

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Speaker 1: will take a couple of weeks to figure out if

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Speaker 1: Peltola does not win on the first ballot, what's the

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Speaker 1: first three you're writing tomorrow about how we don't know

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Speaker 1: who has control of Congress. I've been working on all

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Speaker 1: the spending that we've seen in this election. It's billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars that have been spent, billions with a B.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're talking about races with six

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars being spent exactly, I mean hundreds of

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Speaker 1: millions in some of these Senate races. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, you know, control of Congress

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Speaker 1: comes down to trillions of dollars every two years. So

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Speaker 1: it's not a bad investment if you think about it.

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Speaker 1: It's order of a billion. I believe in Georgia and

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Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna go. Imagine that. That's where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go. Next. Billy House will be with us from

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and we'll bring in Rick and Genie. On the

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Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics, zac CO and thank you. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe Matthews. This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg. So on

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Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. He's somewhere between Raphael

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Speaker 1: Warnocks elect and Night party and herschel Walkers. But isn't

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Speaker 1: that the whole state of the race in Georgia too

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Speaker 1: close to call a toss up? Which one do we

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Speaker 1: go to tonight? And that is the question right now

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Speaker 1: for Billy House Bloomberg Congress reporter is making his way

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Speaker 1: across Atlanta, having been trailing Senator Warnock today and now

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Speaker 1: headed to the herschel Walker party. Raphael Warnock trying to

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Speaker 1: make the case in the closing hours that herschel Walker

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Speaker 1: is not your man. I mean, he thinks he's a

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Speaker 1: police officer, he's not. He thinks he's an FBI agent,

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Speaker 1: he's not. He thinks he was valed dictorian of his class,

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Speaker 1: he was not. You think he graduated from the University

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Speaker 1: of Georgia, he did not. Just goes on by the way.

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Speaker 1: I could do a minute of this. Another one he

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Speaker 1: said he started a business that does not even exist.

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Speaker 1: He has another business, he says, that has eight hundred employees.

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Speaker 1: It only has eight. Yeah, so you got the point.

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Speaker 1: This goes on by the for quite a while. Uh,

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker. All the while he's leaning into this thing.

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Speaker 1: They asked me why I'm running. I'm running because I'm

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Speaker 1: sick and tired of people not loving this country. And

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Speaker 1: then they said make America great again? Like that is

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Speaker 1: a bad turn. Have y'all heard of Ricket Bobby? That's

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Speaker 1: what they need to get back to it. You're not first,

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Speaker 1: you last, and America does not last. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you that right now. Billy House is gonna be seeing

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Speaker 1: him in just a little bit here, Billy, you are

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Speaker 1: Rickey Bobby fan? Oh yeah? Are you? I mean? Who is? Well? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I love the movie. It took me a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks to figure out the reference though. It's

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Speaker 1: the if you're not first, your last? I get it now.

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Speaker 1: He repeats it it up so you could have looked

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Speaker 1: it up. So sometimes I'm slow, Billy? Are you being redeployer?

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Speaker 1: Are you just following both candidates today? I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say there was ever any uncertainty, but I moved

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Speaker 1: out him now almost at the herschel Walker Camp Pauler

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Speaker 1: Venue by the way, then the Warnock Senator Warnock has

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Speaker 1: set up what do they have waiting for you? A

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Speaker 1: cramped little bunch of rows for reporters to sit on

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Speaker 1: our way in the back? Does that tell this sounds fun?

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Speaker 1: This is the real stuff. Okay, Billy had to get

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Speaker 1: out of some hotel somewhere to to go chase Herschel Walker,

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Speaker 1: and this is what he's doing tonight. Would that indicate

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Speaker 1: maybe an early word and then and then you go

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Speaker 1: home early because we don't know how this race is

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Speaker 1: gonna end. I think that's absolutely maybe the case. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like I'm iagine, well I am, but keep

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Speaker 1: in mind we have that caveat in Georgia that the

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Speaker 1: winner has to have plus one and and that's a

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Speaker 1: wrinkle that adds to the closeness of the race as

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Speaker 1: it is. Uh. The closing arguments have been interesting, and

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Speaker 1: I understand where Raphael Warnock is coming from as a

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Speaker 1: sitting UH senator. Here, he's got democratic talking points. He's

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Speaker 1: trying to poke holes in the Herschel Walker story's essentially

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Speaker 1: calling him a liar every time he gets in front

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Speaker 1: of a microphone. What's Herschel Walker's clothes? I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: he's doing. You know, he was quoting JFK earlier today.

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Speaker 1: What is the closing argument for the Walker campaign? Well,

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Speaker 1: the coaching argument is this, First of all, in response

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Speaker 1: to Warnock that, uh, I've opened up all my events

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Speaker 1: with prayers. Uh, my people, and it is true. Know

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Speaker 1: that I've been forgiven for all my sins and uh,

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Speaker 1: and that I represent uh, somebody who doesn't foul or

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Speaker 1: cow tow to Joe Biden, does not vote with him

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Speaker 1: of the time. That's kind of his comeback, but it

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Speaker 1: seems to be working. This thing is too close to call,

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Speaker 1: right Uh, Paul's show that actual with all his baggage.

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Speaker 1: Herschel Walker has been kind of making inroads in the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Yes, are you covering the governor's

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Speaker 1: race while you're there as well? Billy. This is one

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Speaker 1: that's obviously getting national attention, and Brian camp is looking

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Speaker 1: pretty good at the moment he is. And Uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: not covering it directly, but I'm watching it certainly because

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Speaker 1: it's going to have an impact. The experts here say

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Speaker 1: in Georgia on herschel Walker. In other words, we're talking

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Speaker 1: hotels whether they're gonna be strong enough to get him

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Speaker 1: over the line or not. Uh. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: think that you're just simply going to a runoff. We'll

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Speaker 1: know in a couple of hours. We will know in

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours that's the sixth of December, if

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Speaker 1: that happens, Billy, is that right? It is? And that's

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Speaker 1: a shorter time frame than in two thousand twenty one

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Speaker 1: when Raphael Warnock one a runoff in January. They've condensed that,

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats have suggested that that, of course is

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Speaker 1: a GOP move to limit organization. Uh and and voter thought.

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Speaker 1: But you know, say what you want. It's a shorter

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Speaker 1: period and December six would be the runoff. If they

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Speaker 1: have one great to talk with you, Billy, come see

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Speaker 1: us when you're back in town. Billy House Bloomberg, Congress

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Speaker 1: reporter joining us live from Atlanta on his way to

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Speaker 1: the herschel Walker party. That governor's race, by the way,

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Speaker 1: five thirty eight has Brian Kemp up by eight points

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Speaker 1: seven point nine points over Stacy Abrams. Uh, you were

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Speaker 1: probably ahead of me on the rickey Bobby stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis if your eight first year last, it took

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Speaker 1: me a minute first your last, you know, don't talk

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Speaker 1: about that praise trademark, not about producer Ricky Baby. I

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Speaker 1: hope that herschel Walker's banned the trademark Genie. That's all

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Speaker 1: I can say. You lost me with this whole discussion. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: if you're not a NASCAR fan, you are a comedy fan,

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Speaker 1: and it is truly a funny movie. Uh. This is

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Speaker 1: one that we've maybe talked or at this round table,

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Speaker 1: on this panel about more than any other Georgia Senate. Rick,

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Speaker 1: how do you make sense of the closing arguments here?

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Speaker 1: Does it even matter? Is this Trump versus Biden? Uh?

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of Trump versus Biden. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no question that being an incumbent senator has put

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Speaker 1: Warnuck on the defense and he's had to, you know,

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Speaker 1: respond to the questions about things like, you know, criming

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Speaker 1: the economy. That the downside for Repolken's is herschell. Walker

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Speaker 1: really hasn't talked that much about crime in the economy.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's talking about his history and his reputation

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Speaker 1: and of course he's got a hundred percent name I

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Speaker 1: d because he's a football superstar and and why step

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Speaker 1: on that? Um, I would say one of the things,

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Speaker 1: you know, Billy House was talking about this that you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got this short period of time between the election

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Speaker 1: and the runoff, and but you don't have Bryant Kemp

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Speaker 1: on the ballot at that point, and he said, Kemp

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Speaker 1: has coat tails. That makes sense to me. He's blowing

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Speaker 1: out his opponent and and and herschel Walker is not

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Speaker 1: going to get the benefit of those coat tails. Come

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Speaker 1: run off, and he's gonna have to earn all that

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Speaker 1: vote himself, and it'll be interesting to see whether or

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Speaker 1: not that poses a problem for him. We'd also have

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Speaker 1: weeks of listening to reminders Jennie or voters certainly would

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Speaker 1: about these allegations that he paid for abortions for not one,

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Speaker 1: but two women at least have come forward so far. Uh, boy,

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Speaker 1: this is a survival story so far. If nothing less,

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Speaker 1: it is. And of course we're all having flashbacks to

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Speaker 1: when we had, as Billy said, lived through this for

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months. And we're not in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the poor voters in Georgia. This has

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Speaker 1: been going on and on, inundated with millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: worth of advertisements. That is this goes to a runoff

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Speaker 1: is going to intensify. Boy, their thanksgiving will be impacted

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Speaker 1: by this race if it goes to our runoff. But

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Speaker 1: that could also be very damaging. Ricky, remove the top

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Speaker 1: of the ticket there, Brian Kemp coat tails. You get

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Speaker 1: three weeks of NonStop abortion talk. Maybe another woman comes forward.

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Speaker 1: We've got the card, We've got the check. Glauria alright

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Speaker 1: has involved good lord, the walls are closing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even think that's the biggest. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: says he's going to be a president a week for

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Speaker 1: now and then shows up in Georgia to campaign for

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker. I mean, he ran off too good Republican

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Speaker 1: senators last time he did that. Is he gonna do

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Speaker 1: it again? And and and how do you keep him

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Speaker 1: from this race if he's an announced canidate for president?

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Speaker 1: That okay, So let's go there. We haven't even mentioned

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Speaker 1: this yet. I was going to bring it up with

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Speaker 1: Mark Niquette, who was there at the JD Vance rally.

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Speaker 1: This is the Ohio rally where Donald Trump sucked all

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Speaker 1: the auction and out of the room and they were outdoors.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be making a very big announcement on Tuesday, November, Florida. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have to admit I thought that he would do

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Speaker 1: the magic escalator thing. He loved that escalator at Trump Tower.

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Speaker 1: Rick is going to do it at marl Lago and

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Speaker 1: is that what he's talking about. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: have a sand bank. They don't have an escalator. Mar

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Speaker 1: Lago trap would be kind of interesting. Does he come

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Speaker 1: out with flip flops and you know beer? Can you? Hey,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get off the beach today and run for president.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's saying, though, Right do we do we

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Speaker 1: expect an announcement GNI or is he playing with you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: We expect it. And I don't know. Joe Matthew you

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Speaker 1: call it. You said it was a j D Vance rally,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not really sure. Did j D vince? I

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Speaker 1: don't know that anyone saw Trump. But he's in good shape.

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Speaker 1: Right even if Trump stepped on the headline. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a very different matter. To Rick's point, if

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Speaker 1: this goes to a runoff in Georgia, it will now

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Speaker 1: so far, I can't believe him to use these words

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Speaker 1: in the same sentence. The Trump has been disciplined about Georgia.

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Speaker 1: He has not been down there monkeying around so far

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Speaker 1: in this race. But if he doesn't, if there's a

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Speaker 1: runoff and he does, that could have a real impact,

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Speaker 1: especially if he is announced for president as a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Next week, we will officially be in campaigning and he

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Speaker 1: will be down there, and that's going to have a

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Speaker 1: huge impact. And let's not forget he's announcing in the

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Speaker 1: home state of his home state now and where Rond

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Speaker 1: Sanctimonious lives. And he's after Ron De Santis as of today,

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Speaker 1: saying he's got unflattering information, he better not run. Pretty

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Speaker 1: remarkable piece in the Wall Street Really he voted for him, Jenny,

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Speaker 1: hours after he voted for Rhonda Santis, he started talking

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Speaker 1: to the Wall Street Journal about this, uh, suggesting that

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Speaker 1: he's got dirt on Rhonda Santis. This it's just a

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Speaker 1: little preview of what might be to come. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: didn't pull back on Nancy Pelosi last night. Either said,

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Speaker 1: please don't call them animals. They human beings. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: they're animals. Of course, I think she's an animal too.

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Speaker 1: You want to know their crells. Wow, big round of

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Speaker 1: a pause for that. Just listen to it go. They'll say, oh,

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Speaker 1: what a horrible thing she said about she impeached me

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Speaker 1: twice for nothing. Nothing. They'll say, oh, these people, the

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Speaker 1: fakers back there, They'll say, what a horrible thing he

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Speaker 1: called Nancy Pelosi an animal. This came after or within

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Speaker 1: hours of her appearance on CNNA, which she got choked

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Speaker 1: up brick talking about learning of Paul Pelosi being attacked.

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Speaker 1: She said this would impact her decision though to retire.

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Speaker 1: She wouldn't say what it was. But does this embolden

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Speaker 1: her or make her want to call it quits? Well, certainly, Um,

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Speaker 1: She's used to being insulted by Donald Trump, so whether

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Speaker 1: or not it even makes a bit of difference would

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Speaker 1: surprise me. I think she's very much focused on her

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Speaker 1: family and what's going on in at home right now. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: her legacy plays an important role in what she does

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Speaker 1: from this point on. Uh And look, I mean, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is gonna be Donald Trump, and you can never

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Speaker 1: expect anything more from him than what you just heard.

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Speaker 1: Does Nancy Pelosi retire next, Gene? I think she does,

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Speaker 1: and I think she does, And I think Trump's use

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Speaker 1: of this phrase is what authoritarian leaders do. They dehumanize

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to do that. The best panel in

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Speaker 1: the business there with us in our special election like

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Speaker 1: coverage on Bloomberg TV and radio starting a p of

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Speaker 1: Eastern time, Rick and Jeannie, I'm Joe Matthew, this is Bloomberg,