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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and well the hallway Matt.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this the way you drew it up. No

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Speaker 3: concerns whatsoever. I said this on another outlet, and you

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Speaker 3: know this about me. I mean, it took me twelve

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Speaker 3: full terms to get out of pitch Johnstown with a

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Speaker 3: two to one in creative writing. And I've used this

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Speaker 3: analogy once in a while that if I were to

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Speaker 3: have written that script, turn it into one of my

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Speaker 3: professors back in the day, my creative writing teacher might

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Speaker 3: have been like a little too unbelievable. Matt, I think

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Speaker 3: you're pushing it a little far. I mean, the beginning

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Speaker 3: was crazy, the end was nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I just did a video with the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and uh for Steelers dot Com the kind of

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Speaker 2: the wrap up show, And one of the questions was

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Speaker 2: what changed from the first half to the second half

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Speaker 2: with the offense. I'm like, it was kind of field position.

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Speaker 3: A lot to do with it. I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: look at the You.

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Speaker 2: Know, they had four meaningful possessions in the first half,

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Speaker 2: where they had five actual ones, but they took a

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Speaker 2: knee on.

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Speaker 3: The that doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't count. So four possessions. One their first possession

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Speaker 2: of the game started at their own four. Uh. They

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Speaker 2: also have one that started at the ten. They had

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Speaker 2: one it was out at the twenty five, and then

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Speaker 2: they got one at midfield off at Ogan Jobi strip.

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Speaker 2: They scored points off of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like, And so I asked Mason Cole after the game,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you guys were field position was

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Speaker 2: a big thing here and I always it always is

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Speaker 2: in Steeler Ravens games.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, point, he said, Look, when you get the ball

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Speaker 2: inside your own ten, usually the thought process is just

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Speaker 2: get two first downs to get out of here. You're

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Speaker 2: not in score mode in those kinds of stations.

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Speaker 3: And I bet there's listeners like how could our coaching

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Speaker 3: staff coach them that way? You got to get a

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Speaker 3: touchdown every time. You gotta be realistic, You got to

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Speaker 3: get out of your own end.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to go ninety six yards against this defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm flat out stealing this from your ten

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Speaker 3: thoughts piece because that was in there and it was

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Speaker 3: really good. The key is you can't go three and

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Speaker 3: out on that four yard line, you know, because then

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Speaker 3: you're punting it to them and they get the ball

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Speaker 3: to fifty on the other side of the wrong maybe

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Speaker 3: better you know, with a decent return or whatever. And

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned in that call them everyone's check it

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Speaker 3: out on Steelers dot com. They were really good at

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Speaker 3: not taking three and ounce in this game. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's progress. I mean, it's it really is it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's not easy to do from where this

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Speaker 3: offense is at right now. Yeah, better as the game

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Speaker 3: went on.

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Speaker 2: But when you when you're when you're in those situations,

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Speaker 2: when you're backed up like that, it changes the play calls.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to call anything aggressive in those situations.

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Speaker 3: No or long developing play seven step draw stuff.

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Speaker 2: Or four like you know. And they ran twice and

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Speaker 2: through they got a first down and then they ran

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Speaker 2: you know, then they ended up punting, but they were

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Speaker 2: already started, you know, second play of the game. When

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Speaker 2: they when they ran the ball again from their six,

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Speaker 2: people were booing like.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect them to do here? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 3: I mean they were in compromised positions from the start.

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Speaker 3: That being said, there was I don't know, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five minutes in the game. I'm like, they can't cover anyone.

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Speaker 3: Ravens are keeping them in this thing. But this could

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Speaker 3: blow up and be a blowout in no time, you know.

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Speaker 3: I was not optimistic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first quarter, the changes that they kind of

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Speaker 2: made defensively, If you watch that game, they weren't really

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Speaker 2: blitzing Lamar much in the first half. No, in the

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Speaker 2: second half they said, you know what, We're just going

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Speaker 2: to go after him. One of the middle linebackers was

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Speaker 2: coming every play. Yeah, and so they had five rushing

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Speaker 2: him and they just kind of constricted him into pocket

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Speaker 2: and they didn't overrun him, didn't allow the escape lanes

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Speaker 3: So I've done several Steeler things today and everyone has

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Speaker 3: brought up the inside linebacker play smart folks we work with,

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Speaker 3: you know. And of course everyone in the planet's going

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Speaker 3: to talk about Watt Heismith as they should. They're total

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Speaker 3: stars and all that's true. But this was a great

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Speaker 3: front seven game because I thought the d lineman, the

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Speaker 3: big people. They just controlled the A and B gaps,

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Speaker 3: didn't let Lamar have a shoot, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they know how to play against this quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he might not get him every time. I mean

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Speaker 2: they were like, I'm sitting next to Bob Larbriola, which

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Speaker 2: is always a treat. Yeah, I sit next to Bob

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Speaker 2: with the home games, and we sit there and kind

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Speaker 2: of whisper back and forth to each other, and Bob

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Speaker 2: what was it the second third play of the game,

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Speaker 2: one twenty six yard run and he's already you can't

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Speaker 2: overrun the cornerback. What are you doing there? You have

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Speaker 2: to know who you're playing against. I think they it

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Speaker 2: still happens new Guy's playing against, you know, can new

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Speaker 3: Of course this guy. So it's like I can maybe

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Speaker 3: get him. I'm going to take that risk. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he just don't know. They stayed after that.

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Speaker 2: Then they kind of really locked him down. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you look at it, Lamar finished his game, he

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Speaker 2: had six carries for forty five yards, in twenty six

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Speaker 3: After that, not he didn't really hurt you. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: didn't really hear you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one play other play where he got out of

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Speaker 2: the first half when they screwed up the the field

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Speaker 2: goal that they wanted to get. That was just kind

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Speaker 2: of a superman play where it does show some of

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Speaker 2: the progress that Lamar made. He rolls, he runs out

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Speaker 2: to his left and instead of just keeping the ball

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Speaker 2: To say, Flowers, you know, I don't know that Lamar

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Speaker 2: last year or two years ago makes that play.

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Speaker 3: No, maybe not. He just runs with it and frankly,

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Speaker 3: he could have had four touchdown passes in this game too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's all part of it. It's all part

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Speaker 3: team's going the drops and the Harbor decision that you

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the harbad decision? It was so the

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Speaker 2: Ravens for years, and Steeler fans have complained about it.

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Speaker 2: The other fans have complained about it. If they see

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Speaker 2: if they think they see somebody in the neutral zone.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I did see it.

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Speaker 2: They reach out and they'll have their alignment reach out

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Speaker 2: and touch him, make sure they get the call.

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Speaker 3: In this case, the center Linderbaum.

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Speaker 2: Linderbaum thought one of the Steelers had jumped into the

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Speaker 2: neutral zone he snapped the ball. They were not going

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Speaker 2: to snap the ball there. They were gonna let the

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Speaker 3: Goal, which was the small food. It shocked me. I'm

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Speaker 3: with it, right, mess around with it. I guess. I'm

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Speaker 3: glad you brought that up, though, because no one thinks

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Speaker 3: about there's a crowd pouring on you, there's a second

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Speaker 3: clock going down. You practice this stuff, you know, like

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Speaker 3: it's not as easy as it looks. But I thought,

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Speaker 3: are going to harbor. I'm like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: You've been around the block the way the Steelers offense

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Speaker 3: is moving the ball. Three is a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: Well that, yeah, I get in that situation, it would

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Speaker 2: have put them up thirteen or they were thirteen to three,

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Speaker 2: so you regain your ten point advantage. And in that

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Speaker 2: situation is I kind of laid this out in ten

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Speaker 2: thoughts later in the game. You're not You're not going

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Speaker 2: for a touchdown there, it's a touchdown wins it for

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Speaker 2: I don't know, they just they just screw screwed a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff up.

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Speaker 3: They did screw a lot of stuff that drops in

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Speaker 3: that were bad for me, you know, But so what

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Speaker 3: I mean if teams, but the Steelers haven't screwed stuff

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Speaker 3: up this year either. I mean, it's just that's the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if if teams give you gifts, you take

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Speaker 3: them and you take advantage of it. And I think

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Speaker 3: it was in your callum. I mean, the Steelers fought

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Speaker 3: a ten round fight in the first two or three rounds.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: They took a lot of body blows on a lot

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Speaker 3: of shots right going on out there. Absolutely, But there

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Speaker 3: is a mentality and a physicality to every NFL game,

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Speaker 3: but especially this one, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Ravens won the first half. Yes, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers were the better team in the second.

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Speaker 3: Half, clearly. Yeah, I mean it wasn't as much as

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Speaker 2: I got home last night and I'm watching the night

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Speaker 2: game and they go to the halftime highlights of all

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Speaker 2: the games and I can't remember who they announced, Yeah, whoever,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, and they're talking about the Steelers Ravens game,

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Speaker 2: and it's talking about how the Ravens dominated the first

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Speaker 2: half of play and all they had to show, you know,

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Speaker 2: was a ten to three lead, and then they blew it.

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Speaker 2: Like the Steelers had nothing to do with what happened

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Speaker 2: in the second half. As much as the Ravens dominated

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Speaker 2: the first half of play, the Steelers turned the tables

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Speaker 2: on them in the second. The Ravens had ninety total

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Speaker 2: yards of offense in the second half. The Ravens had

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Speaker 2: four first downs in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Lamar wasn't doing things with his feet. They didn't run nothing.

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Speaker 2: They had no offense in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and their defense was starting to go backwards. It started.

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Speaker 2: It started the will to the plays that you know,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, those those two yard runs turned

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Speaker 2: falling the other way, and they started to complete some passes,

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Speaker 2: the back shoulder throws that that Pickens and Pickett had

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Speaker 2: missed on in the first half. Connect they started to

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Speaker 2: connect on those, and it just turned the whole game.

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Speaker 3: So let me run this by you because I brought it.

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Speaker 3: This kind of dawned on me this morning and I

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Speaker 3: feel pretty strong about it that that second half of

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Speaker 3: the game, everything you just said. Ando, By the way,

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Speaker 3: Kenny didn't turn the ball over. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 3: say that enough. Cadn't turn ball over. Kenyan turn the

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Speaker 3: ball over. And it felt like after Week nine last year,

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Speaker 3: it did. It was the exact same form. Did it

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Speaker 3: really was? Is it pretty?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: But it was back to the team we were excited

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Speaker 3: about in the offseason, you know, like that was the

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Speaker 3: foundation they they paid. These played the exact same way

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Speaker 2: They were, they were very low.

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Speaker 3: I think it hurt the Steelers more because their pass

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Speaker 2: They called it the stand both ways.

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Speaker 3: All this stuff's analytics and analytics is a very very

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Speaker 2: Do scouting reports.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know I'm always a glass half fool

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Speaker 3: I just picked the Ravens saying they're better. I don't

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Yeah, well, I mean you put

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Speaker 3: And can you make it plays?

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Speaker 2: Think it was eleven for seventeen for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: And you're now now you're two and zero in the division. Now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, I don't think I'll take the

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a it's a big win and you

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson's already told me he's coming back after the bye. Now,

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Speaker 3: The guys on Cam, you and I have been guilty

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Speaker 2: you know, the offense stinks. If you took the number

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Speaker 3: To the best receiver in the league. Whatever the number

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Speaker 2: The offense is going to struggle. Yeah, because the guys

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Speaker 3: He eleven pressures.

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Speaker 2: you don't think Marlon Humphrey in that situation, Marlon Humphrey

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marlon Humphrey and Stanley ain't. Isn't three years ago

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Speaker 3: He's the one guy. And I also think he nothing

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, So now that's on tape. So when you

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Speaker 2: It just it raises all the boats. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: The Steelers had planned on that. They had they had

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well this time around, Okay, we're not going to let

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Speaker 2: But they knew one that ball was going to George

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Speaker 3: Okay, I said that earlier today, Like that might be

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Speaker 3: the norm, Like there might even going forward when Deonta's

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Speaker 3: out there first and ten, third and eight on your

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Speaker 3: own goal line on there, whatever, if I see him

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Speaker 3: man alone, I might just go there like Burrow did

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Speaker 3: the chase you.

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Speaker 2: A safety over the top hat, good.

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Speaker 3: LuFe and fine, you know, but if I get him

447
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Speaker 3: in that favorable look, I might just go there no

448
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Speaker 3: matter what. Yeah, go win.

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Speaker 2: And they'd done it. They tried it earlier in the game,

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Speaker 2: and and and Pickett had missed him in the end

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Speaker 2: zone on a deep one. But I mean it was there. Again,

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to give the coaching staff any kind of credit,

453
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Speaker 2: but they saw that, they saw the tendencies. Sure, Hey,

454
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Speaker 2: in these situations, this is what the Ravens do. And

455
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Speaker 2: you know, dialed up that play and well it turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a game winner. Likewise, I think the

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Speaker 2: defensive coaches, Yeah, you roll with the punches in the

458
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Speaker 2: first half and then you made the adjustments.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's just let's just blitz the middle linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's just get after him. We'll get porter in the game,

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Speaker 3: you know, let's just get after me. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know enough about punt team and punt coverage, but Danny

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Speaker 3: Smith sem up.

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Speaker 2: That was something I talked to Miles Killerbrew after the game.

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Speaker 2: He said, Hey, that was that was one that that Danny,

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Speaker 2: We've been working on a punt that particular punk block,

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Speaker 2: and we knew if we got if we got this

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Speaker 2: look in that certain in that area.

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Speaker 3: Of the field, it's on.

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Speaker 2: It's on. We're going to do it, he said, everything

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Speaker 2: lined up perfectly. We did it, and we get the

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Speaker 2: pump block.

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Speaker 3: That's why you practice, why these coaches are there all

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Speaker 3: the time. And Killerbrew's got four in his career. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now that one was kind of a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a stunt, so they had him kind of looped through

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Speaker 2: and and get that one.

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Speaker 3: So it was obviously schemed up. We schemed up and

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Speaker 3: they saw some glitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so remember that the next time you're about this

481
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Speaker 2: or that. I mean, the Steelers, I always get that one.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers coaches never make adjustments.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, it's true, but not true. It's also

484
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Speaker 3: side note, it's hard to make a defensive adjustment when

485
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Speaker 3: your offense is three and out like it is, like

486
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Speaker 3: sometimes there's just so many minutes in the day, or

487
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Speaker 3: you know, or on the sideline, you know.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, he is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 2: continue talking little Steelers Ravens.

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Speaker 3: What does this mean? All right?

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Speaker 2: In the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, this is the drive with Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio, and we are back. He is Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 2: am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. One win changes everything right

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Speaker 2: now in.

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Speaker 3: This AFC where it's amazing right now.

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Speaker 2: Is sixteen teams in the conference, thirteen of them have

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Speaker 2: at least two wins.

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Speaker 3: Have at least two Okay, yeah, I mean there's so

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Speaker 3: I said this over and over and probably bug people

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Speaker 3: that after the Texans game, I said, their situation is

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Speaker 3: so much better than their tape. Well, their situation just

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Speaker 3: got a lot a lot better, you know, especially in

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Speaker 3: terms of guys coming back. Standings will go over and

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Speaker 3: their tape got better.

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Speaker 2: And you beat one of your the rivals, a team

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Speaker 2: that's in the AFC, in the AFC North, those are

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Speaker 2: big things. So you know how they used to do

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Speaker 2: the thing on Football Siders with DVOA in the playoff percentages,

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Speaker 2: those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I took a look at it.

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Speaker 2: Before the weekend started and the Steelers were like thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Now Texans lost, draw them down a lot, Ye.

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Speaker 2: Lost and all that stuff. Now with the win and

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Speaker 2: everything else that happened over the weekend with the teams

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Speaker 2: that lost and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's back.

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Speaker 2: It's back up fifty four point three percent chance to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I mean this time of year, jumps are big for

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. And we're way putting the car

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Speaker 3: before games. I mean it's October, you know, seventh or

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Speaker 3: whatever it is, but still it it. Those type of

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Speaker 3: wins are that big in terms of your chances of advancing.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really, this is just math. This isn't

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Speaker 3: people's opinions or anything, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, as we sit here now, the Steelers, if

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Speaker 2: the playoffs were to start today, which they don't, of course,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers would be the three seed behind the City

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Speaker 2: and Miami. You know a team they'd play in the

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Speaker 2: first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have no idea. So I guess it's Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: on top of the South.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonvilleill be the four.

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Speaker 3: So who are the who are the One of them

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Speaker 3: has to be the Bills. I'm just saying the wild

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Speaker 3: card teams have to.

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Speaker 2: Be The Bills would be the last. The Bills would

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Speaker 2: be the last wild Wow.

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Speaker 3: They're the seventh seed, right, now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd you like the Miami So you get Miami Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: They get, You get a Raven Steeler miss we get

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Speaker 3: a Raven Steelers rematch. Okay, who's the top wild card? Cleveland?

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Speaker 2: Jack, I'm sorry, Indianapolis. Wow, Cleveland will be out because

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Speaker 2: they were on the by this week too soon to

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Speaker 2: be two and three because they play the forty. Good

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Speaker 2: luck with that, although, you know, if the Niners are

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Speaker 2: going to have a letdown after playing the.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys in Cleveland coming off a bye, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: but they it they look pretty good. We'll see it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a big win again, a conference win.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers three conference victories right now are tied to

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Speaker 2: the most in the in the in AFC, is it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So you know you can't overlook those things. And the

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Speaker 2: worst you can do right now, the worst you can

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Speaker 2: do is split with Baltimore in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so happens since he looks like they're trending in

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Speaker 3: the right directly. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. It's one

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Speaker 3: look good. But you're right, you know that recent history,

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Speaker 3: they've missed out on the playoffs because the tiebreakers and

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Speaker 3: when the schedule came out, we've broken it down a

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Speaker 3: million times, the tiebreakers at least. Look before the season

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Speaker 3: started to be a lot more favorable for them this year,

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Speaker 3: and it's playing out that way, you know, Like I

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Speaker 3: thought they'd beat Houston, you know, and that would have helped,

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Speaker 3: of course, if they'd been in Houston. They've been great,

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Speaker 3: phenomenal shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't even so heading into the buy

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Speaker 2: at three and two, knowing who you're you're probably going

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Speaker 2: to get back coming out of the spy All in all,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you haven't lost anybody of note for the season.

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Speaker 3: No notable injuries. Yes, I mean, you know, anyone, No

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Speaker 3: nothing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not Buffalo who just lost Matt Milano

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Speaker 2: for the season.

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Speaker 3: They lost two other defensive starters. That's a huge, it's huge, humongous.

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Speaker 2: Like they've lost in the last two games they've lost

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Speaker 2: for Davius White and Matt Milana. Of those are massive losses.

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Speaker 3: The defensive lineman's out for a while, and I forget

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Speaker 3: the other defensive store maybe Boogie Basham or something like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, so you've avoided that. Part of

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Speaker 3: me doesn't love that the buye is this early because

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Speaker 3: you've got a marathon coming out of it. But in

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Speaker 3: terms of the health stuff, it's really nice. You also

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Speaker 3: have some long weeks. After some Thursday games.

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Speaker 2: You get a couple of Thursday games coming up in

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Speaker 2: one more Thursday games, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Patriot, more Patriots and they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Had a Thursday. No, they get two two, So you

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Speaker 2: get you get the little extra buy coming off.

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Speaker 3: Of that as long as you. I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 3: week before is short, but you do have some rest.

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Speaker 2: So there's there's some things to be gained from all this. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think, well.

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Speaker 3: What's nice too. I'm sorry to interrupt, but that you've

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Speaker 3: you've involved a lot of new players, some of them veterans.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the inside linebackers, for example, but maybe

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Speaker 3: more importantly, the draft picks now have tasted the NFL,

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Speaker 3: kind of like Kenny last year BEFO for the buye,

604
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Speaker 3: like I've tasted the NFL. I don't have a hold

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Speaker 3: on it yet, Porter Jones, et cetera, et cetera. Washington's

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Speaker 3: played a lot, Benton's starting to play a lot. I

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Speaker 3: get a break now, I kind of know what this

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Speaker 3: league's all about. And now I'm gonna be counted on.

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Speaker 2: You know, just think about it this way, Matt, had

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Speaker 2: they won, had they done or started like this last season?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, in.

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Speaker 2: One, you know they were they were two and six

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Speaker 2: going into the buy. Let's say they're let's say they're

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Speaker 2: three and five going into the bye.

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Speaker 3: They make the playoffs, and they make the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you figure things out at the buy,

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Speaker 3: get healthier, Kenny plays better. Yeah, they play second half

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Speaker 3: versus Ravens football. For a Knights chunk of the rest

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Speaker 3: of the games, you're gonna be highly competitive, especially against

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Speaker 3: teams you're playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, now you can use that that second

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Speaker 2: half is kind of a jumping off point for the

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Speaker 2: second half of your season, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it just reminds me a lot of last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're they're in a good spot right

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Speaker 2: now again with the guys that they've got, they're going

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Speaker 2: to have coming back. You don't play and we mentioned

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Speaker 2: last week, you know, the Steelers record the week after

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Speaker 2: playing the Ravens, it's like it's barely above five hundred

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Speaker 2: and the Tomlin Harbor.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore has to do it.

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Speaker 2: Now, they've got to do it. They're going over to

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Speaker 2: London to do it.

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Speaker 3: I forget who they're playing by the Titans. Titans, which

635
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Speaker 3: is a physical game, and Baltimore is a more talented team.

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Speaker 3: But Tennessee's not fun to play, No.

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Speaker 2: Not at all. And you know, have some some kind

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Speaker 2: of plan up his sleeve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so, but they could easily follow what three

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Speaker 3: and three, three and three, they would be three and

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Speaker 3: three Cleveland the Colts. Tennessee's no easier game than the Colts.

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Speaker 2: No, no, as you mentioned that, you know, Cleveland plays

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. Cincinnati has toes to play Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they've Seattle this un right, Seattle by Buffalo Kansas

645
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Speaker 3: City or something like that, or Kansas City Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this next month is not going to be easy for

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Speaker 3: them either.

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Speaker 2: No, so, I mean, you know this is when you

649
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Speaker 2: make them, hey here, you know, get healthy this week,

650
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Speaker 2: take the time and continue incorporating some of the young guys.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to one of the young guys that come in,

652
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Speaker 2: they got to get in, get him in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: They're probably not running in on a white stallion and

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Speaker 3: saving No you know Roderick Jones, well yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know Joey to prepare as a starter and not

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Speaker 3: thrown right in the action.

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Speaker 2: Really well, Joey, Porter's continuing to progress.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have any insight on this,

659
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: but I'm sure people were curious, and I think he's

660
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: now going to be the left starting quarterback corner. I mean,

661
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: it seemed to me. I've only watched the TV copy once.

662
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: I haven't watched you all twenty two. It looked like

663
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: not that Peterson got benched, but it looked like he

664
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: got replaced as the left starting corner at some point

665
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: during this game. It wasn't just nickel and dime stuff.

666
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: There were some times when it was hard to follow

667
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: on tape.

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Speaker 2: There were sometimes when Wallace was on the sideline a

669
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: couple of plays anyways, and they had Porter out there.

670
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: And then there are other times when it was p

671
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: they played a lot of nickel, you know. So it's

672
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: tough to tell that it is.

673
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: But I would love to see him earn not just

674
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: be given one of the two outside spots, and then

675
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Speaker 3: you could do the stuff you've signed Patrick Peterson to

676
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: do with him, you know, more inside, you know, saout

677
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: in the edge.

678
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even mind seeing Peterson play some strong safety

679
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: or something like ahead of times.

680
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: I thought I caught a snap of him lining deep,

681
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, as like a true safety. But again, I

682
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: need to double check it. My one day's been hectic.

683
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: It is King just not gained.

684
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Speaker 2: They've practiced him. He got one snap in the defense

685
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: yesterday and it was deep. He was a deep safety.

686
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: But you know, they're just it's tough to get on

687
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Speaker 2: a moving train.

688
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Speaker 3: Like you know, he assumed that's what it was. That

689
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't like they were down on him or anything

690
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: like that. So I wonder if post buy his snaps

691
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Speaker 3: go up.

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00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're at least looking that direction.

693
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Speaker 3: Okay, made the expense of Sullivan or whomever.

694
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Speaker 2: You's gotta earn it, though, just gonna earn it.

695
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: If you're not in the game. You can't put in

696
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: the game if you haven't earned it.

697
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: Right, So it becomes that kind of situation. But yeah,

698
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean I think they're you know, if when we

699
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: started the season, if they said, hey, the Steelers will

700
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: be three and two going into.

701
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Speaker 3: The bye, we don't take it.

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Speaker 2: I mean you'd be like I would have liked to

703
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: have been four and one or five and oh. But

704
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: obviously but three and two's fine.

705
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: Baltimore, Cleveland, San Francisco looked like tough games. Yeah, you know,

706
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: would probably be juicing.

707
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: Shows that we know, why why do they always lose

708
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: the Raiders?

709
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Right?

710
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: You know?

711
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: So why do we have preseason shows? But yeah, I

712
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: mean so it's it's not that bad. You're in first

713
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: place in the division. It's not bad at all. It

714
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: could get better, but the situation is great.

715
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, as we've seen typically Tomlin's Mike

716
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: Tomlin's teams have played really well going into October November.

717
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm right or not about this.

718
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: Obviously it was true last year, but I'm almost certain

719
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: post by tomlin record is a higher winning percentage than

720
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: his career winning percentage, you know what I mean, Like

721
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: they win more post by than they do over the

722
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: course of a whole year. Yeah, and that's not an accident.

723
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: Over this many years, I think he manages things well.

724
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean again, everybody wants to see the young guys.

725
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: Got to get this young guy and got to get

726
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: that young guy in.

727
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: They have a plan and maybe maybe he's not a

728
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: young guy thing. Maybe the old guy Patrick Peterson needs

729
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: to do different things, not that the young guy needs

730
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: to come in and do or Alan Robinson. Older dudes.

731
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Speaker 3: You know, you're getting to learn.

732
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Speaker 2: So you know, when you when you have a plan

733
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: in place with some of these things, you just stick

734
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: to the plan unless something happens it forces you to

735
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: get out of the plan. But at this point, you know,

736
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Porter's trending towards playing more. Keanu Benton is playing a lot.

737
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: You play a lot yesterday it's almost fifty, you know,

738
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: Washington kind of forcefully had to play a lot lot.

739
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Hayward's only second year guy, right, he got thrown in

740
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: more Austin.

741
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: He was always open yesterday, say opened.

742
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: He had a much nicer game I think than people realize,

743
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: or could be more useful. Again, sometimes it's not Wally

744
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Pitt Blue Gerrig, but sometimes when a star or your

745
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: foundation player, somebody has to step up. And I think

746
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Hayward pickings guys like that. Now you trust them more,

747
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: or the next injury that's coming, the more coming you're

748
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: better suited to deal.

749
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: With, you know. Yeah, I kept telling Bob every time

750
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Hayward stepped on to the film like three is open

751
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: and low being on them watching and eighty three was open.

752
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: It's useful, that's for sure. I also think, just a hunch,

753
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: I bet Broderick Jones is now the left tackle until

754
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: further notice. It just seems like that's the transition was

755
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: forced on you. He played well yesterday. There's so much

756
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: talent there. Yeah, I think you just make that move.

757
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think you ride it

758
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: out here. See, I don't know what the situation is.

759
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: With Dan Moore injury wise.

760
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Injury wise, we'll see.

761
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's even one of your worst five.

762
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Might not be one of the best five. Like, yeah,

763
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: he might be better than Chookes, folks, he might be.

764
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: Hey, there's some other guys in that line that are

765
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: not playing right, you know, at a high level.

766
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: Right now, I'd strongly consider putting Daniels at center and

767
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: more at right guard and Chokes at right tackle. I

768
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: didn't like how Herberg played yesterday. I haven't loved Mason

769
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: Cole's season. Yeah. No, I'm not sure who the best

770
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: five is.

771
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: That's being said. Mason Cole was part of the line

772
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: adjustment that they made on the final play. Intelligence Yeah,

773
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't put that off on picket And

774
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of you know, if Daniels

775
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: has that kind of acumen and he hasn't really played

776
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: a lot of center in the NFL. He played you know,

777
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: he played song, he played saw Me, he was a

778
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: center in college. I get that.

779
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean, I'm not.

780
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Ready to blow up the entire offensive line.

781
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: I know. I do think left tackle is probably inevitable.

782
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: And if More is one of your best five, which

783
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: I thought herbig might be one of their best five,

784
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: and I don't anymore. I mean that's two rough outings

785
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: that he's a good swing dude, but that I don't

786
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: think he's one of the five.

787
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think you allow this thing

788
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: to play, you're gonna have more injuries. Oh yeah, they're

789
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: gonna happen, and then you know, you break the glass

790
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: when when necessary, and all of a sudden, you've maybe

791
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: play more six offensive lineman when if if you have

792
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Dan More available, more and more, more and more, Yeah,

793
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: like ten times a game, just run Dan More out

794
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: there is your extra tackle.

795
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm shocked they haven't done that to this point to

796
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: get the first round pick out there pre injury. And

797
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: I think that's something that makes a ton of sense.

798
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think the problem with that was you almost

799
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: had to do it where you put him at left

800
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: tackle because that's where he repped.

801
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: He would be outside. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

802
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Like so now, okay, you're gonna tell Dan Moore, well,

803
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: we want to be strong to the right side, so

804
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna go over to the Just what it was,

805
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: there was a lot of moving parts.

806
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: He played right tackle in camp, and plus Washington is

807
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: kind of built like a tackle. They didn't have him before,

808
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 3: you know, but I wouldn't mind getting six guy out there.

809
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, they've got there. They're

810
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: gonna have options coming out of the bye week here,

811
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna need, as we've already seen, you're gonna

812
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: need other guys to play.

813
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: Did you say you're not certain about Moore's injury situation.

814
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: I don't know yet, okay, Yeah, and we won't get

815
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: that for a couple of days.

816
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I mean I saw him after the

817
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: game in Houston, and you know, he had a knee

818
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: brace on it, but he was walking around. I don't know.

819
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't heard much information.

820
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: I just I assume it's just your you know, your

821
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: regular sprain knee. But that can be two weeks, that

822
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: can be four weeks. Who knows, you know, is it

823
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: an mcl sprain is? I have no idea?

824
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: Interesting?

825
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we'll see. Uh. You know, the a

826
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: f C is just a big bunch of mess right now.

827
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure New England's not in the hunt New England. Yeah, yeah,

828
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: there's some bad, bad teams right now. Across there's five

829
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: or six that are really bad that I didn't expect

830
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: to bought him out to this degree. Giants are terrible,

831
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 3: you know. I think Denver's really bad.

832
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: When you look at the NFC, it's a little more

833
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: cut and dried with San Francisco and Philadelphia up top.

834
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: I think Detroit's a clear I think they're three now. Yeah,

835
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: and then you you know, beyond that and it's I

836
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: don't know, depending week to week. The AFC is completely.

837
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: Week to week. Yeah, I mean, whoever, I can't see

838
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: it from here, but whoever's eighth or ninth currently in

839
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: the standings probably could make some noise Cleveland, the Chargers, say,

840
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: I bet the Chargers or anything like that. Yeah, they

841
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: could definitely make noise. Cleveland could make noise.

842
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: They're sitting there at two and two, and you have

843
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: the Texans at two and three, the Titans at two

844
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: and three, the Jets are two and three, the Bengals

845
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: are two and three.

846
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: The Jags look a lot better than they did a

847
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: week ago at this time.

848
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, I called that one. Yeah, I can't go

849
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: over there the two days before the game and to

850
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: play a team that's been sitting over there waiting to play.

851
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: Then the first quarter looked exactly like that. Yeah, and

852
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: then you lose Milano two.

853
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, it just looked.

854
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I have more confident in the Jags than

855
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: I was a one month or so ago or a

856
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago.

857
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still one and two at home this year.

858
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: Are crazy.

859
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: That is crazy there, and one of their one home

860
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: win was over there.

861
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: They are owing to at their own stadium. Yeah, So

862
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: can't make any heads or tails of that. But we're

863
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson. I

864
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,920
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Speaker 2: or Tanger Outlets, or you can visit them online at

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Speaker 2: shop dot Steelers dot com. And Matt looking here at

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Speaker 2: the FTN Fantasy Dave Rankings. Here. This is the adjusted

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: that just.

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Speaker 3: Comes out this week. Right, once they got they get

880
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: four games in the books.

881
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: They get four games in the book here. So this

882
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: takes into account not only what you've done in your games,

883
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: but who you've done it against.

884
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: Yes, real quick, So I know you're down on the Cowboys,

885
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: and I totally understand that before last night they had

886
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: played the easiest schedule in the league, and then starting

887
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 3: last night now they play the hardest schedule in the league.

888
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Like that all makes sense to say that you want

889
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: to know about a team that stuff's important.

890
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So looking at this the adjusted based on the

891
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: opponents that you played in things of that nature. The

892
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Steelers offensively, this is going to surprise people are eighteenth.

893
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that surprises me. But the Browns and Niners and

894
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: like played a bunch of these guys that are at

895
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: the top of the list defensively, and so that that

896
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: factors into this whole thing. Doesn't that smell? Man? I

897
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: keep harping on this, doesn't that smell like pre buy

898
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: last year a lot a lot like it wasn't pretty.

899
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: But when we get to scan out from one thousand

900
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: feet ten thousand feet whatever that term is after the season,

901
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: Football Outside or Pro Football Focus, all these people be like, yeah,

902
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: it was bad, but they went to Philadelphia and Buffalo

903
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: and you know, a.

904
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: Factor that kind of stuff in.

905
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow.

906
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Defensively overall, this is over their ninth ninth.

907
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting.

908
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: Like they've been some I mean that Houston game was

909
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: not pretty, No.

910
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: Not at all, And there's been a lot of wide

911
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: receiver numbers put up against this team and McCaffrey and

912
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: you know, wow, but they're not. The big plays are valuable, Yeah,

913
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: the splash huge. Yeah.

914
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, on special team they're nineteenth, and I don't

915
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: know how it's like, I guess maybe the yeah yesterday

916
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: kind of cancels out the block kick.

917
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: Because there aren't that many.

918
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: You just don't sech blocked in the NFL.

919
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: No, that's a huge, huge play. I mean, that's it

920
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: just doesn't happen, especially in the end zone. Trying to think,

921
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: what are the negatives special field have missfield goal, they

922
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't hold field goals against you against you should return

923
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: game has been okay? I mean Austin's had a couple

924
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: that were decent, Right, Did McFarland have a good one

925
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: early in the.

926
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: Year In the first game he was actually one of

927
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: the bright spots turned the ball. Yeah, I'm trying to.

928
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: Think, but I don't know. Maybe a couple of special

929
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: teams penalties here and there.

930
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't whatever.

931
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So overall in the punk games went decent. Yeah,

932
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean Harvin was overall right.

933
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: Now the Steelers as a team fourteenth.

934
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't see him in that light, but I

935
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: can understand it, like that's this is who's their neighbors.

936
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: This is the analytics.

937
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: Who's twelve?

938
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: Twelve is Jacksonville? Okay, thirteen is are the Saints.

939
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: Okay, they just wiped the floor with New England.

940
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: Fifteen is Cincinnati.

941
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: Wow, that's obviously opponent adjusted, you know, makes some sense.

942
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, sincinat sixteen is Green.

943
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Speaker 3: Bay Okay, I mean the kind of the teams we

944
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Speaker 3: thought they'd be hanging with the start the season.

945
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you even if you look like

946
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: ten is Cleveland. Their defense is based out their defenses

947
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: to their offense is twenty. Cleveland's offense is ranked lower

948
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: than the Steelers based on who they've played.

949
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 3: Gotcha interesting? Okay, Uh, Seattle right now is eleven. They've

950
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Speaker 3: had a good year. I mean you look at some

951
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: of the curious, who's like the top three in the

952
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: bottom three? I mean who the top three?

953
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Number one is Buffalo over San fran over San France,

954
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: San Frantis two. I mean Buffalo's defense still ranks one.

955
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: I know what's killing San Francis Because I mentioned Dallas

956
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: has played the easiest schedule in the league up until

957
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: last week. A second. Yeah, so but Dallas was a

958
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: quality opponent. Yeah, so I'm sure that's holding them back.

959
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: So it's Buffalo, San Francisco, Kansas City, and then Detroit

960
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: really yeah, wow, Okay at the bottom, Well, the Giants

961
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: at thirty.

962
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: Two, they earned it. I think they're my thirty two.

963
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: The Panthers at thirty one. Yeah, the Bears at they're still.

964
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: There even though they're showing signs of life.

965
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: The Cardinals are twenty nine.

966
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the Bengals and Cardinals both kind of

967
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: showed us who they really are yesterday.

968
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: You know that the water levels, Yeah, everything kind of

969
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: leveled off.

970
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe we should have seen that coming. I

971
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: think New England's right there with those terrible teams.

972
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: And right now they're twenty third on here.

973
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: Really, who is gel when I was thinking of oh Denver?

974
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: Denver is twenty eighth.

975
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: Is their defense thirty second?

976
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: Their defense is thirty first. Chicago's defense is that's.

977
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: Pretty bad too. But they didn't let up seventy one game.

978
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean so, yeah, I think you but that

979
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: was against the number one offense in the league. Yeah, yeah,

980
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: so way again, that's weighed a little bit differently. Yeah,

981
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know that the analytics look at it

982
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: and go, well, they give up seven hundred yards and

983
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: that you're never going to recover from that. Defensively, No,

984
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: you gave up two and a half games worth of yardage.

985
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: And the other thing that's kind of applicable to some

986
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: of this stuff too, Like last night, you're still counting

987
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: the snap. I mean, this is one of the problems

988
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: with analytics. If you're going to do a team synopsis

989
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: like this, you're counting the Sam Darnold snaps the same

990
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: as the rock party second step in the game. You know,

991
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: when you're playing against backups and everyone wants to get

992
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: out of there, you know they got stuff still counts.

993
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean the same thing with the Steelers

994
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: running numbers from yesterday. You look at it and they

995
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: had thirty carries for eighty seven yards. You go, that's

996
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: that's not that good. But take pickets, six, six kneel

997
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: downs out of the game. Oh, six carries for minus

998
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: six yards, So it's twenty four carries for eighty one yards.

999
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: That's a little more representative.

1000
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: We always say mix things about pro football focus, but

1001
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: that's one the best things they do. Like they'll they'll

1002
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: take throwaways, spikes, kneel downs called things that aren't good

1003
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: for the offense. Yeah, out of their equation.

1004
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: You're not really running a play there if you're just

1005
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: out there running clock to get out of the game.

1006
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, rightnel downs don't count for rushing stats and stuff

1007
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: like that, so I think those are a good way

1008
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: of looking at this. Unfortunately they count for fantasy stuff,

1009
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: so well they did, but right, that's next or if.

1010
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: You're gambling nothing. I this has never happened to me.

1011
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't I don't do these things. But I can

1012
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: only imagine, Like, let's say you had Lamars over under

1013
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: yesterday on rushing yards and it was forty six and

1014
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: he takes a knee at the end of the half

1015
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: and you lose one. You'll lose a yard there you.

1016
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 3: Had it and he like ever heard those horror stories? Yeah,

1017
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's crazy. But I mean I'm trying

1018
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: to think. There was an example recently. It was the

1019
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: end of game and they kneeled two or three times.

1020
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: I think it was Herbert. Instead of taking a big

1021
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: kneel back, he cheated in like only took half a

1022
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: yard losses opposed to three.

1023
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: I've seen guys take like two yard losses too.

1024
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they think that huge step back takes a

1025
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: little half a second longer on the clock, or you know, right,

1026
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: and someone's out there, no.

1027
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Or you know, somebody runs win that way, or I

1028
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: mean think about you've seen it, this happened before in

1029
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 2: the past two where a team takes a safety on purpose, Yeah,

1030
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: thanks a lot. Yeah, and the defense gets credit for that,

1031
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: and you're like, and that kind didn't do anything to

1032
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: deserve that, and.

1033
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 3: That count was the same as a Steelers blocking a

1034
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: punt for a safety, which was a great play, as

1035
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: opposed to someone run out of the end zone up earth.

1036
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can just do the free kick and

1037
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: win the game that way. It's just a way up.

1038
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: That's football.

1039
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not perfect.

1040
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: That's it's all about whether you win or lose a game.

1041
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: You got to do what you do need to do

1042
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: to win the game. That's why I kept spreshing here.

1043
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: There's no there's such thing as style points in the NFL.

1044
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: No, I mean, how many games of the course of

1045
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: the year are Dolphins versus Denver or some of these

1046
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 3: Niner wins where I mean every Monday it wasn't pretty.

1047
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: But how many wins are pretty wins or wins maybe

1048
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: one a week in the league, you know, where one's

1049
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: just way better than the other. I mean, there's not

1050
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: many over the course of season. Twenty five games are

1051
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 3: pretty you know, it's not a pretty sport.

1052
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: No, it's a brutal sport. Yeah, you know, it's not

1053
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: a brutal sport. That would be our DFS. We're back.

1054
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: We're going to get to that when we come back

1055
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Speaker 2: after this. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Illett.

1056
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.