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Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Oh my gosh, hell, what a jeree.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to fan girl. I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: I am. I have been so excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: This is like a like a should I step out

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Speaker 1: gonna focus on each other. Um. It is so great

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Speaker 1: Would you like to tell the scrubbers who's here? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna get into that, but I just wanted

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Speaker 1: have someone scrubbing in today that I have been dying

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Speaker 1: to have and y'all have been requesting for months. Now.

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Speaker 1: We have Alice Myer scrrubbing it. We did it. First

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Speaker 1: of all, How are you? How are you doing? I'm

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Speaker 1: Is that common for you? Migraines? It is? It's so annoying.

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Speaker 1: if it works or not. Method is like with everything

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Speaker 1: like literally like, well, what is it like living under

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Speaker 1: least Meyers is, you must not be on the Internet

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Speaker 1: because you have in the best way, I mean, at

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Speaker 1: least for me, Like you are the influencer that I

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Speaker 1: you hold so many titles. I mean, you're a comedian,

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Speaker 1: I never fanned girl, Like I never like, like, what's

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Speaker 1: I I admire like all of the things about you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just like it's all good. Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: feel anyway you can, like when people you have such

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Speaker 1: what do you say? Um? I tell stories. That's kind

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Speaker 1: was like playing teenage Heartthrob Dean Forrester, as well as

430
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: his successful career following, and of course we couldn't let

431
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: him go without asking him the question that is on

432
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: everyone's mind. Is he Team Dean, Team Jess or team Logan.

433
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: Head on over to the I Am All In podcast

434
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: to listen. Now, aside from them, I mean, those those

435
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: were like heavier topics and I wanted to get it. No,

436
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: I was asking him, Oh me, I'm just curious. I

437
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: find it fascinating and I feel like you've navigated in

438
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: such a graceful way and like you're very um kind

439
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: and how you respond to criticism, and it's I love

440
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: it when you have seen something like when you were

441
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: sitting back and you were web developing, were you on

442
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: social media a lot still, Like were you watching TikTok

443
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: and Instagram and stuff? Yeah, yeah, definitely, So when you

444
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: saw have you experienced anything like going to any event

445
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: or going to something that you thought was this like

446
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: glamorous thing and it ended up not being what you

447
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: hoped it would be. Like have you done anything like

448
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: that where you were like, I would love to do that,

449
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: and then you did it and you're like, all right,

450
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: smoke in mirrors, I can genuinely say everything I've gotten

451
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: to do well. First of all, I didn't. I wasn't

452
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: the kind of person when I would see stuff like

453
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: like big glamorous things, I want to be there. I

454
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: would think like that scares this sh me. I would

455
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: never do that. And then next thing, you know, in

456
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: my inbox, we're like, hey, do you want to come

457
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: be on on like an NFL you old with the

458
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: mascot like shooting T shirts out of a cannon, like

459
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: those are never things, and I'd be like, I want

460
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: to do that. So if anything is the opposite, it's

461
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: like all these things that are so beautiful and glamorous

462
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: that other people have spent their whole life just like

463
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: hoping for a chance, and I just feel so selfish

464
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: and like guilty that I'm like, these are things that

465
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm having panic attacks before is I'm like, why is

466
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: this happening? But it's it's awesome and I'm so grateful

467
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, I know it's kind of flipped. Okay,

468
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: so you're more like I'm going to this thing and

469
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: I have a lot of stress and panic about it,

470
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: but it was actually really fun. Yeah, I think what

471
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean the story I just cheered today was I

472
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: was invited to this like really beautiful fundraising event. Um

473
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: that was for like a mental health foundation. But I

474
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: was in Vigas No, it was in um Indian Indianapolis,

475
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: and um, I just know the mascot, the person in

476
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: the costume. There were good friends, and so he put

477
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: me on the top of the guest list, which I like.

478
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: Andy Grammer was like singing and just walking around and

479
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is happening? And um, so I

480
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: went and it was like at this beautiful estate and

481
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: and I ended up just what I ended up walking

482
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: up to this like ice sculpture, and I feel really uncomfortable,

483
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: and this guy's holding this bottle of alcohol and I

484
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: think that I'm supposed to like drink it out of

485
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: the ice sculpture because I just watched Love is Blind

486
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: when they like are taking shots of any sculpture. So

487
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to figure out what to put my

488
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: mouth because I'm so nervous. And then he like it

489
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: like pours into a cup and like hands me the

490
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: cup and he can tell I'm like like trying to

491
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: like find where I put my mouth, and he's like,

492
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: did you think you're gonna like take this with your mouth,

493
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, just like and then I just

494
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: grabbed the biggest crab like I could find this. There

495
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: was a display crableg on accident and I went back

496
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: to my and that was like the whole night was

497
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: just that. And so it's I just him in these

498
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: situations where I'm like, oh my god, dude, I can't

499
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: believe this is happening and I feel so out of place,

500
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: but I just keep going to them because I think

501
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: that it's really cool that they're happening, and I feel

502
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 1: so grateful for like the invitation, But the whole time,

503
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is not So you talked about

504
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Lance past being your childhood crush, Oh my gosh, and

505
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: then y'all are like best friends now, but can you

506
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: walk us through that experience and journey? Oh my gosh.

507
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I posted a video saying my first

508
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: crush was Lance. He do edit it and then I

509
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: do eddit his duet, and then Audible reached out to

510
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: me and said, um, we want to do a camping

511
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: because I just worked with them the previous year and

512
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: they're like, um, we want to try and get Lance

513
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: for it and we want you to meet. We want

514
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: that to be a part of it. It It was like

515
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: you guys meet and I'm just like no, Pleaits like

516
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: please don't and so they he said yes, and then

517
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: we like met and made this like whole short film

518
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: for Audible. If you haven't seen it, it's like so wild.

519
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: The director and the writer of this thing was just

520
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: like I forgot it was an ad honestly when I

521
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: posted it because it's like a short film. It's incredible.

522
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, so me and Lance, like the moment we

523
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: started talking, he was like so normal and I just

524
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: kept saying he was so beautiful. I literally just couldn't

525
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: stop saying like you're so beautiful, thank you. And I'm

526
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: like your nails are soul, your hair is beautiful, and uh,

527
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: it was like it was painful. And watching back, it

528
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: didn't look as awkward as it felt, but it was

529
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: definitely he was trying to like move it forward, like

530
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about something else, and I just was like,

531
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: we're bringing it back. You are beautiful, and um, yeah

532
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was the best couple of days. And

533
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's wild. I feel I just find that

534
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: you like you are everybody's experience, Like you're just sharing

535
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: the reality of what it's like doing things and meeting

536
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: people that you've admired forever, you know, because I feel

537
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: like I would do something where I just complimented someone

538
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: over and over again and couldn't get to the next

539
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: point because I didn't know. No, you just can't open

540
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: your mouth when you're around somebody. You've been in the

541
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: same room with Jeffer Franis and she can't say a

542
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: word like not even like hey, it's so bad, and

543
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: so if the opposite, just like verbal diarrhea, it just

544
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: doesn't stop. Well, it's not like I'm like directly in

545
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: front of her. It's just like someone's like, go say hey, Becca,

546
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I literally can't if you want

547
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: me to say hey, somebody's not like that. It's like

548
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: I'm at a restaurant, I see Joanna Branston. You're at

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: home and your sweats, and I text you that she's there,

550
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: and you put on clothes, makeup and come to the

551
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: restaurant so that you can actually speak to her and

552
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: you Those are two very different situations. Both of those actually,

553
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: both of those happened, and what was the event that

554
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: you were at where she was at. What was that? Okay,

555
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: so this is actually cool. It was a People's Choice

556
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: Awards and Tanya and I had one for Best Pop Podcast,

557
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: so I had my People's Choice Award, and we were

558
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: saying like we're like we are brethren in this, like

559
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: our brethren, I tell Tanya because we're at the table,

560
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: and I'm like, she just Jenniferon had just won the

561
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: Icon Award or something. So I was like, I'm going

562
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: to go back. This is my moment. And so I

563
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: get into the room like somehow the people that were

564
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: like running the event, like by the way, like the

565
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: whole way back. Yeah. Yeah. And I go in and

566
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm standing next to her, and she and Adam Sandler

567
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: are talking and I'm like, just like stop, say something,

568
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't. I just awkwardly lingered in the

569
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: corner until I was told I had to leave that room.

570
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: I like wasn't supposed to be in that room, Like

571
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be in the same room as

572
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: that level of people, even though we had the same award,

573
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: we were different levels, and I couldn't. I couldn't say anything.

574
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: So I say there are times a charm because we

575
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: had two brushes with Jennifer Anderson's going to happen. I

576
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: need someone to facilitate the high for me because if

577
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: she speaks to me, I will say hello back. I

578
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: have to tell you she's not going to do that,

579
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: so I need you to do it. I just think

580
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: you need to do it. At least I need a

581
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: little more encouragement than that that she would. She actually

582
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: watches The Bachelor, so there's a chance where maybe eye

583
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: contact could be established and then I could say I

584
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: contact totally. Yeah, I just I don't want to like,

585
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: first your bubble. I just really don't think she could

586
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: walk them like, here is your moment and I'm not

587
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: going to do that. But I too would be like

588
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: you're so beautiful, I love your hair, I love friends,

589
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I love every movie you've been in. I want to

590
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: be your best friend. And she'd be like, please, let's

591
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: get I I hope that next time you get to

592
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: meet her, you have to just like keep me in

593
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: the group, change the text glue, so just like give

594
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: me a play by play on what's going on. I

595
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: need it. I just feel like you have made it

596
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: feel okay to not have everything be perfect. You know.

597
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people have fallen in

598
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: love with you, is that you give people space to

599
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable or be anxious and pushed through anxiety and

600
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: still be able to see like the fun and the

601
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: beauty of it. And at the very end of the

602
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: worst that can happen is you have a great story.

603
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: And I think that you've made people feel brave in that,

604
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: which is really cool. All of that that's my goal.

605
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I am just. I'm so grateful for

606
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: you coming on the podcast, and I before we wrap,

607
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: I want people to know more about your podcast and

608
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: what it's going to be about where they can listen.

609
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up. It's called funny because it's true,

610
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: and I um interview like celebrities and comedians and just

611
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: people I think are funny. And it's just this like

612
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: perfect combination of storytelling and interview and inner monologue you

613
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: get to hear and beautiful sound design and it's so fun.

614
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: And I am just it's been a whole process and

615
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: I never thought I would have a podcast because you

616
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: have to like interview people, and that's my greatest fear

617
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: and I've almost quit so many times, and my team

618
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: just like, you can't quit, so you have to keep

619
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: doing it and you can hear it anywhere that you

620
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: get podcasts, and um, I'm freaking excited. I'm so nervous.

621
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: It's so I funny to hear you say that you

622
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: didn't see yourself doing a podcast, because I remember the

623
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: first few videos of I saw of yours. I was like,

624
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: she's going to have a successful podcast one day. Oh

625
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: my gosh, I love that. Well, see here's the moment.

626
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: I keep trying to quit, but they're like, you signed

627
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: a contract. I literally was like I was just about

628
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: to quit. And then they sent me a five minute

629
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: example because we had filmed so much and I hadn't

630
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: heard anything really of it yet, but I knew it

631
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: was going to beautiful. I just didn't have any like

632
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: there was no example. And finally they like sent me

633
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: a five minute mixed example of like the Inner, which

634
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: is like the story or the interview, but then like

635
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I pop in with like my inner monologue, and so

636
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of cool sound design that happened.

637
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: It's very it's a I've never heard a podcast like it,

638
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: and so I'm really excited. Um, but I heard it

639
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: and I just so I started weeping because I was like, Okay,

640
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: maybe I can do it, and like managers like ready

641
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: to just pull the plug because I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 1: time to be on our podcast today, of course. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you guys later. Bye,