WEBVTT - |FULL POD| DAME TIME! Damian Lillard to the Bucks! 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:11.240 On this emergency episode of The Heat Check. Oh my god, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:12.480 it happened. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:13.520 It happened. 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:20.720 Damian Lillard has been traded to the Little Walky fucking Bocks. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.439 Oh my god. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:24.800 And we also have a special interview by the way 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:29.360 with Keith Smith, NBA insider and CAP expert, to break 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.880 it all down, folks from the perspective of every teen 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.560 involved and not involved. Here's looking at You might drop 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.480 everything that you're doing because we need to get into 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.520 this episode right now. Got that beat, Rihanna, the drop 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.400 that beat, William the chimby Rihanna. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:45.440 I'm so excited. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.839 Break was breaking down all the biggest NBA storylines. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.600 We're tuned in to The Heat Check. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.320 The Heat Check was just a crack the best podcast 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.600 covering all the drama around the association. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.679 It's breaking, it's breaking news. I know it happened yesterday, 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.840 but I had to do some other work and then 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:08.600 come home and then record this. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.520 It is breaking news to me. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.679 At about two pm Eastern Standard time, we got the 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.400 I mean, this is the the taj Mahal of WOJ bombs. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.640 Let's be honest, right, like, this is the one that's 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.040 made up. This is the WOJ Mary, You've been getting 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.600 your ass fucking handed to you by Sham's for the 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.680 last I don't know three months, and you know what. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.680 Here we are the redemption arc of Adrian war Janowski. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.880 It is Dame Lollard. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.319 The trade is here to the Milwaukee Bucks. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.400 This is the bomb. This is the sound of the 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:48.160 WOJ bomb. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.440 Because Damian Lillard is not a Miami heat Damian Lillard 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.280 is not a Toronto raptor. Like a thief in the night, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:01.280 they say, real GE's move in silence, likeless. That is 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.600 John Horst and the Milwaukee Bucks. There's so much to 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:10.720 process there just is. Let's collectively though, take a deep 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:19.040 breath because it's been a long summer for this. Inhale, exhale, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:24.320 pause the podcast and download your favorite meditation app and know, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.600 feel your body, Feel every every inch of your body. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.400 Start with your toes, go all the way to your ankles, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:37.200 to your knees, to your thighs, to your elbows, to 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.480 your neck, feel your head and say, oh my god, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:45.440 Damian Luller's a Milwaukee Buck. Now that we're as cool 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.840 and calm as the Arctic breeze, I will break down 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.800 the deal. We will then go ape shit again, because 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.200 it's gonna happen and we will dissect it. It's a 0:02:54.240 --> 0:03:00.120 three team deal involving the Blazers of course, the Phoenix Suns. Yes, yes, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.720 because DeAndre Ayton did it was real, and the Milwaukee Bucks. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:04.720 Note the one. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.760 Team missing is the Miami Heat, who said, listen, it's 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.320 all all you can fight and scream. It's like when 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.520 you're on death row and they're like, it's coming, the 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.360 needle is coming for you. Whatever you want to do. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.959 You can think it it's nappening. You can pretend, you 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.200 can appeal, you can try to run away. But at 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.760 the end of the time, the Miami Heat are inevitable. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.920 They try to act like there was nothing we could do. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.040 Portland Trailblazer fans they were just gonna hold us down 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.680 and they were just gonna put a pillow on our 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.640 face into our bodies went lifeless, and they took Damian 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.960 Lollard for us. Anyway, they didn't so much to get 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:46.040 to on that soon the trade, the Blazers get DeAndre Ayton, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:51.440 Drew Holiday, Toumani Kamara Kamari nobody cares about him, a 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.640 twenty twenty nine first round pick unprotected, which By that point, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.520 Dame will probably be out of the league. Two picks 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.600 would and Giannis will probably force his way to another team, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.240 and two pickswaps in twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:14.320 the Suns get Yusuf Nurkic Grayson, Allen, Nicirlittle, Keon Johnson, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:19.119 The Bucks get Dame Lollard. I didn't see this coming. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:20.599 Did you see this coming? 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.040 I don't know that anyone whispered about it. I heard like, oh, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.880 that would make sense. Jannis wants maybe this team to 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.880 go all in. But no one thought that they would 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.880 get rid of their golden child that they paid for 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.640 four first round picks for Drew Holliday. Not a whisper, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.880 not from Mark Spears, not from Chris Haynes, no one, 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.839 not a ripple, not a peep, Quiet as church mouses. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.440 So yeah, I think we were all kind of floored 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:50.440 by the news. My initial reaction, I love it. I can't, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.880 I mean, inject it into my veins. You know me, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.279 longtime Bucks fan, a legend at Deer Park. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.320 Come on, let's get with it. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.760 Let me rephrase that, though as much as you can love, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.760 as much as you can love, letting go of your 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.679 favorite blazer in your team's history. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.120 Just given the options, he was out. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.520 He was outro right like there was unless you were 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.480 getting honest to the Portland Trail Blazers. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.000 He was gone. He was giggity gone. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.679 Joe Cronin knew GM did his best and did about 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.880 as well as you could even expect against all the odds. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.000 He did the following he protected his team's interest in 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:35.720 the face of, let's be honest, a disinformation campaign that 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.640 rivals the election in twenty sixteen by Russia. That's where 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.000 we're at, Like the Facebook campaign where it was like 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.440 Nancy Pelosi had a straight like what was it? Human 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.920 trafficking ring inside of a pizza shop in the garage, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.400 Like that's where we're at in terms of comparable disinformation campaigns. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.800 Because they said that Dame would only play for one team, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.080 and one team only matter where he went, no matter 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:01.600 if it was a. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:02.360 Really good contender. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.800 He was going to ask to Miami anyway he was, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.120 he was going to be traded to that one place. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.400 And you know what Portland said, We are unfazed. We 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.960 are unfazed by this, Honest to god. It was like 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.880 a Cold war Soviet propaganda campaign. Being waged against Joe 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.360 Cronin personally never seen any I think these Miami Heat 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.960 fans were actually rushing bots. I honestly, we need to 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.760 check what their follower accounts really were, who they were, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.440 where their followers real I don't know they were mad 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.880 at me though. Two. Once Drew is traded, it's going 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.880 to result in a hall commensurate with the superstar you 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.560 get eighton you get likely because you have two. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.160 Pick swaps and a first round pick. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.039 So and remember they traded for Drew with two first 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:53.120 and two pickswaps, so as of now, it's the same 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.640 as the Drew trade minus one first round pick, so 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.600 you're probably getting one or two first round picks back 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.800 for you're likely getting three first rounders and two pickswaps. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.039 Joe three protected the interest of young guards by not 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.440 adding another one right because you don't want that, and 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.400 moving Dame out, not saddling them with a broken down 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.800 player with like Kyle Lowry who will only hinder their development, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.400 or that you have to worry about having on this team, 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:25.920 and telling him to make eighty two t times because 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.080 he's not planning for your squad. Just don't show up. Four. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.600 They get out from under a very bad Nurkic contract. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.680 I mean Nurkic is represented by Clutch Sports, so you 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.000 know the deal wasn't great, very underrated move placed Dame 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.320 in a winning position, and everyone said, oh, Portland poverty 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.600 franchise all they're not going to do right by Dame. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.440 Who's talking about that now, no one. It's a much 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:57.440 better situation for Dame than Miami was sands no state taxes. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.000 That one hurts, and then fine, only my favorite one. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.880 It's not really my favorite one, but we'll just say 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.280 it is he screwed Miami. Joe Cronin said, you know what, 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.360 if it's jump ball, fuck you. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:11.560 And he was. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.920 He was saying it and he was doing it. That, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.840 my friends, is a six part win with a capitol 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:23.320 w and with every winner there's got to be losers. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:29.040 And the losers in this situation not Dame, but Dame's agent, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.920 Aaron Goodwin, the hyper aggressive agent who spent the last 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.400 two months telling the world that he was going to 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.520 get exactly what he wanted for his client there was 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.160 nothing that anybody could do about it, trying to convince 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.280 a very increasingly skeptical world that Dame was not going 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.240 to do anything other than play for the Heat. Imagine 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:55.240 Dame going to Milwaukee and being like at media Day Monday, Yeah, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.160 I still want the Heat, though not gonna. I know, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.840 I said I wanted to play for you with you, 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.760 but I'm not really I'm not really about that. Cronin 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.760 destroyed Aaron Goodwin's reputation based on the fact that everything 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.040 that he's been claiming for the last sixty days just 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:18.720 completely false. Mark Spears just reported the following, with Miami 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.080 talks going nowhere, Agent Goodwin privately told the Bucks and 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.080 Nets ten days ago that Dame would be interested in 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:30.320 the deal there. Oh that's interesting. Oh, the Raptors were 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.679 a real contender to land the ex Trailblazer Star, but 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.080 ultimately the Bucks got it done. Per WOJE report. Even 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.760 Aaron Goodwin at the end knew the end was coming. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:43.080 You know. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.520 I know that this is a gigantic al for the 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:50.319 Heats and Goodwin because Goodwin came out with the white flag. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.679 He said, the Heat did everything that they could do 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.360 acquire Dame. It takes two to get a deal done. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.840 I appreciate all that Pat, Andy and Mickey did to 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.440 try to make this happen, folks. Here's something that just 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.760 came to my mind as I was reading this. Aaron 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:13.280 Goodwin has I would say, a very small collection of assets. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:19.360 So him playing nicey nicy with the Miami Heat, to me. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:19.960 Means one thing. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.120 He's gonna try to get DeMar de Ro's in there. Yes, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.800 he is one of his other few clients that he 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:31.160 has on this team besides Trendon Watford and Dame's cousin 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.320 is DeMar Deroz and that's the other marquee player of 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.200 no just watch it is now September twenty seventh, Do 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:43.080 not sleep DeMar DeRozan. Heat Talks will heat up the 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:49.520 other big loser, Miami Heat Reddit, Miami Heat Twitter, the 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.600 wildly arrogant fan base that lives on the Internet because 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.280 no one gas let us harder, no one gas let 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:59.760 us more feverishly, and no one is more gut punched 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:06.160 as result than Twitter Heat fans. Immediately, news leaked after 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.880 the deal went down, probably from Blazer's camp, that not 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.439 only did the Blazers not reach out to the Heat 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:19.080 to match Milwaukee's offer, but also that pat Riley found 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.920 out that Dame got traded to Milwaukee on Twitter with 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.839 everyone else through social media. Just brutal, Just a very 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:34.520 very bad beat for pat Riley, for this fan base, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.400 especially for a guy who is pushing in his eighties right, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.040 who tried to bully, intimidate play chicken with the Blazers 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.480 because he was like, well, what other options do you have? 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.600 I'm not giving you Haimi hawkas, I'm not giving you 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.040 Nikoli Jovich. I'm not giving you anything other than Talerio in. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.000 Two first round picks. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.560 Why because I got you over the barrel? Goodness, gracious, 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.480 what's that old saying about karma that it's a dish. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.800 What's that saying about revenge, that that's a dish best 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:12.120 served cold? Because Joe Conan served up a full plate 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.840 of frozen revenge to pat Riley. The Heat did not 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.320 do anything, certainly did not do anything to acquire dame, 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.960 and you can argue that they almost did nothing to 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.600 get them. It was almost like they didn't want them. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.520 Like I said, their offer was Tyler Hero and two 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.319 first round picks, a player that the Blazers did not want, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.480 did not need, and they said, if you can get 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.640 us multiple firsts for him and its four first round picks, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.079 then maybe what happened is that pat Riley tried to 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.440 play hardball and it didn't. It did not work. Classic 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.880 case of fuck around and fine out. The other minor 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.360 loser was Toronto. They just do not want to get 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.120 rid of their assets and get anything back. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.199 They just don't. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.360 They are actually like the worst at this. They did 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.440 one good thing to get Kawhi Leonard Massai Ujuri, and 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.120 they let Kyle Lowry go for almost nothing. They're gonna 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.680 let they let Fred van Fleet go for nothing. They're 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.600 going to let Ogn and Obi go for nothing. They're 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.040 probably gonna let Pascal Siakam go for nothing, because why 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.560 they would not let Ogn and Obi go for Damian 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.600 Lillard even though Ognnobi is on an expiring Everyone said 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.199 that Portland would have lost that trade because og no 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.720 way would have stayed with Portland and they would have 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.600 just gotten I don't know, Grady Dick to first round 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.120 picks and a guy who doesn't want to be there. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.360 But guess what Toronto said. No, let's look at the 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.880 reaction from the respective teams fan bases. Starting in Portland, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:44.800 things are looking good. Things are rosy, universal celebration. People 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.440 are buying Milwaukee Bucks jerseys probably tickets to Deer Park. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.840 We all wanted to do right by Dame as long 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.760 as it was right for the Blazers. And guess what 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.120 here it is. And on top of that, big fuck 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.840 you to the heat fans. Vast majority of Blazer fans 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.320 are excited. They have four reactions. One Relief it's over. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.800 It's over, Blazer fans, It's done. We don't have to 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.560 think about this ever again. Genuine relief from rip City 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.760 that Portland was not bullied into taking a bad deal 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.160 and they no longer have to worry about Damian Lillard 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.360 saying mean things about us on media Day. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:21.960 Two. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.040 Appreciation for Joe Cronin. He was put in a terrible 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.800 position and somehow found a path so that all the 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.800 people who mattered actually became happy moderately at least. Three. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.600 Of course we're putting out memes, We're putting out tweets, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:42.600 appreciation posts, gratitude for Dame. He's the best, He's the best. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.440 It was the best a Blazer fan could ever hope for. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.640 Ten toes down was here a decade, did everything that 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.800 he could to win us a ring. I loved Dame 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.320 as a person, I love Dame as a player. He's 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.400 the best Blazer in my mind to ever suit up. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.200 And I loved Arvitus a bonus I loved I loved 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.480 Clyde Drexler, But boy, oh boy, were they not Dame 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.440 so many moments that he gave us. I infamously said 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.080 that I don't want Dame to win a chip if 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.880 he goes anywhere else. Really, what I meant is I 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.680 don't want a Dame to I didn't want Dame to 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.480 win a chip if he went to Miami. That's really 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.120 what I meant. That was just me being bitter about Miami. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.720 I couldn't stomach the fact that pat Riley would win 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.680 because he always wins. Watch winning time. It's just gross, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.600 a little slick back. He just smuck. And for Portland 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.320 fans feel happiness over the fact that Nurk is not 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.320 there anymore and that contract's not there anymore. 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.040 And you get a young number one overall. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.120 Draft pick from a few years ago who's got a 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.920 lot left of potential in the tank. DeAndre Ayden didn't 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.600 get a great shake in Phoenix, and now you get 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.240 him and Drew who will result in a Hall. And yes, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.960 I think that that's a great way to set the 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.120 Blazers up for the future. So I say, I think 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.400 it's safe to say that Blazer Nation is pretty good. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.040 If you're a Mowahi Ho fan, you've gotta be fucking stunned. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.840 You're stunned. How did we get this? We didn't even know. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.080 We thought it was July and it's Christmas. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.960 We woke up in the middle of July and there's 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.440 a room full of presents for us under a tree 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.560 we didn't even know should be there. Every Buck site, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:26.920 every Bucks podcast is like, huh, how what we thought 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.760 we were losing Giannis? And all I see is how 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.240 GM John big Balls Horse pulls some shit off like this. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.920 Although Mark Spears mentioned that the Bucks had preliminary talks 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.200 with the Blazers, no one saw it coming. Just like 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.520 with the Drew trade. La la la la, Holy shit 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.760 woj bomb. Bucks fans also appreciative. They love Drew Holliday, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.440 they don't want to let him go. But you can't 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:58.200 say no to Dame time AKA it's now called freak time, Pauls. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.560 No one thinks it's bad trade. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.760 The idea of Dame keeping defenses from collapsing on Giannis 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.600 is going to be great of course, they've got unbridled 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.800 giddy excitement. They've moved from the fourth favorite plus six 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.560 hundred to the leader in the clubhouse in one minute, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.080 in literally a minute. If I didn't know how happy 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.840 this fan base was, the hundreds of variations of I'm 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.800 glad I wore white pants today joke would have been 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.480 a dead giveaway. And rightly so, this combo is going 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.639 to be deadly number one duo in the East, probably 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.400 number one duo in the NBA. If you're a Sixers 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.480 and Celtics fan, you're like, how are we guarding that? 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.679 We used to just build a wall around Giannis and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.160 now like this, the wall doesn't work anymore, does not work? 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.560 A brief pit stop. Also in Phoenix, as facilitators of 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.879 this deal, they it was just never gonna work with 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.480 DeAndre aid and they hated them. I don't know why, 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.359 but they did. They got Vogel. Vogel was saying all 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.480 the right things. I think Vogo could have turned eight 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.520 and into a nice center, and they just they just 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.160 were like, yeah, let's stop trying to make DeAndre Ayton happen. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.080 It's not happening. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.040 I love him, I love Ayton. I think he's awesome. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.880 I've always loved Dayton since he was I loved Dayton 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.040 since he was fifteen years old when I saw him 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.800 at the Adida's Nations. That's how long. So this is 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.240 a fresh start for him. He finally gets the respect 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.879 he wants. He's already changed his two K jersey and 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.400 putting it online to Portland. Hell yeah, the Suns pick 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.680 up badly needed depth. They get in this yere little 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.159 They get Keon Johnson and they get NRK's gonna know 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.200 his role. He's gonna shut his mouth and he's gonna 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.919 play with KD. He's gonna love it too. Everyone's everyone 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.920 in Phoenix has got to be pretty much over the mood. 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:43.199 Finally we end in Miami, where fans are starting to 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.800 cannibalize on one another. It's bad out there on the streets. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.760 They're like ready to turn on pat Riley. They're saying 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.399 he's a slappy when they were saying he was the 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:59.280 smartest facilitator League exec Ever, how much changes in an 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.679 hour as why it's WHOA. The entire fan base was 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.440 convinced they were getting damned. They would have staked their 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:11.160 beating heart on it, and now rug is out from 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.119 under them, and they're looking around like Will Smith in 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.760 an empty room. How is the heat in their fan 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:23.600 base taking the news. Let's look into it. What's the emotions? 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.840 Do we really care what their emotions are? Do we 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.840 really care about them? No, but we'll go into it. 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.240 Number one is anger. They're just shocked and angry. A 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.760 whole lot of angry posts across social meeting like how 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.199 did this happen? They've whiffed on one star after another 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.240 to add to Jimmy and bam Nobile even though that 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.760 what Phoenix got him for peanuts. There were some pat 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.480 Riley as eighty and he's lost his fastball. He needs 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.280 to retire posts. Someone tweeted that it was Joe Cronin's fault, 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.080 It was Danny Ainge's fault, it was Clutch's fault, It 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.840 was everybody's fault except for pat Riley's. If the whole 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.960 league is against them, maybe we should replace him with 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.919 someone that can actually get along with people. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.840 Whoa WHOA hold on? 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:10.520 Now, settle down, Heat fans. Remember you told me everything 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.640 was fine, and you were just in the finals last year, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.720 so seems like everything's fine. Number two emotion is rage. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.720 Rage at the Blazers, which I gotta say is my 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.480 favorite emotion of them all. Much more common were Heat 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.240 fans believing that the Blazers did this out of straight pettiness, 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.080 which I don't know whether that's true, but if it is, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.560 that's awesome. That's awesome. They're big mad folks, big mad, 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.000 and they're blaming Joe Cronin. This fan base is delusional. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.200 They really, they really are. The fact that Joe Cronin 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:48.720 would take a worse deal just screw over Miami is ridiculous. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.639 Like I said, if it's a jump ball, it's fuck you. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.000 Number three is resignation. I think they're starting to realize that. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:57.760 They've got nothing. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.880 They've lost multiple role plays, guys that played, two guys 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.440 that played in the starting lineup for the entire playoffs, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.600 and those guys are gone. The Heat, heatles, heat over 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.920 heat a verse. I guess we'll call it felt a 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:15.959 whole lot of uh, just resignation over the news. They 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.679 kept being told that they can't go all in on 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.919 a superstar because the next star down the road is 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.560 the one. That's what the genius about Joe Cronin really 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.000 is though, because the next Domino was supposed to be honest, 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.760 and now they've taken them both away and one fell swoop, 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.720 and they've actually taken three away because let's be real, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.880 the next Domino guard that they wanted was Drew Holliday, 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.080 and guess what, you're not getting him either. So option 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.439 one gone, Option two gone, Option three gone fuck you. 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.240 That means there's only one possibility for them on the 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.760 table and the Jimmy bam Era, and that's Joel Embiid 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:55.159 And folks, if that's your backup plan, I hate to 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.520 tell you the seventy six ers are in the market for. 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.000 Drew Holliday and boil boy. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.359 Do I see Joe Cronin making that move, which would 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.520 be about checkmate? 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:07.520 Check mate? 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.880 I think there are two things Heat fans can take 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.520 away from today. One, this team signed our j Hampton, 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:17.879 which is a personal favorite player of mine, considering that 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.480 I watched Davion Mitchell cook him for an entire Summer 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.640 League game telling us about all of the ways he 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.560 was just trash. You got that going for you, which 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.880 is nice. And the team tweeted out that Josh Richardson 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.639 will wear the number zero for the Heat. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:36.480 Wow, if that's not putting. 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.760 Oh god, if that's not throwing in the towel, I 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.639 don't know what is silver linings, heat fans, silver linings. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:49.359 My personal feeling on a more we'll call it Sincere 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:55.119 and Ote is that I'm incredibly happy that this is 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.439 the duo we got because these are two of the 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.600 most loyal guys in the NBA, and they both were 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.640 kind of pushed to the brink. And now because they 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:07.200 said something, Hey, I need to win, they got put 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:12.560