WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Press Coverage 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:26.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.400 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:35.080 Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:41.560 and Nicky Spagnola. And it's eleven thirty on a Tuesday morning, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.360 and that can mean only one thing. It is time 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.159 for Mick Shots on a rainy Tuesday morning here at 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.080 the Star in Frisco, inside the s to BBC Mortgage 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.640 Studios inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Bill Jones, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.400 Everson Walls, and the star of the show, Mickey Spa 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:10.000 of course, who just a moment ago informed does he 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:15.760 won't be here next Thursday. Nicky the show on Tuesday 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.440 tell us that I don't know why it is a 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.240 rainy day here, and so it's a disappointing day in 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.600 that I came down the stairway here in the atrium 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.880 at the Star in Frisco, looked out across the playing 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.080 field and did not see any football players out there. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.160 Now we're inside, I guess strength and strength and conditioning 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.560 moved inside. That's what they're still doing. And then the 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.240 coaches now can actually be on the field and do 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:47.720 some position drills with the guys this week before they 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.240 start OTAs next week. So hopefully the rain goes away 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.520 and we'll get to watch uh some OTA practices that 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.279 will be good, and they're only going to have six 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.000 of them, by the way, they're allowed nine or ten. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.280 In the past, it's been ten OTAs and the way 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.400 Jason Garrett would do it, and of course we didn't 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.680 have OTA's last year with Mike McCarthy as the head coach, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.400 but the way Jason Garrett would do it, there would 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:19.120 be nine OTA practices and then the tenth OTA quote 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.840 unquote practice was when they had the high school kids 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.240 come out here and they and the players would coach 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.160 the kids. It was a great day, but organized team 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.399 activities for those of you who don't recall what OTA 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.600 stands for, So that was that was the final organized 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.119 team activity. But they cut down on him this year, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:41.280 only six. And somebody asked Mike during the press conference 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.079 on Saturday, why only six, and he goes, no, I've 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.959 got nine days. Well he was counting the three mini camps. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.200 So after the OTAs, they're going to have mini camps 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.200 and I think what he was thinking was, because they're 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.920 going to have to start training camp a week early 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.800 because of the Hall of Fame game, that he wanted 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.280 to give the guys that much of a break, So 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:07.200 give them almost a month off before they I think 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.400 there was another factor in there too, and that has 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:16.400 to do with the players Union and how much voluntary 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.120 or obviously it's the mandatory three day minicamp, but how 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:25.639 much of the voluntary offseason program that they are going 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.919 to participate in. I think it was sort of a 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.600 compromise for because there are a lot of there are 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.240 some teams in the league where players are not reported 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.440 back in mass like they have here. H and almost 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:44.119 in en mass Yeah, and right, and so the Frenchman, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:51.920 the Frenchman, that's the only six years of French That's 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.920 the only thing I think I remember. Dmos had something 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.360 to say about that. There you go, that's exactly right, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.800 and I'll see if I can find it here. But 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.840 there was a letter that I was reading just a 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.160 couple of days ago that was tweeted out from the 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:13.600 players Union, one of the players reps Um explaining why, uh, 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.039 you know, the player's position on it, and part of 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.760 it was they felt like last year without a that's 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:30.159 a bunch of bos you don't have at no, no, no, no, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.120 well we we now they're going at it now that 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.080 I got a play that the play was better last year? 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.200 Did he watch the Cowboys defense here? It was a 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.839 couple of weeks ago. We talked about that, We talked 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.080 it out. There was a new one that came out 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.039 this week that an explanation I gotta find it talking 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.039 about one came out talking about yeah, ever since and 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.039 I talked about it about injuries had been reduced, and 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.200 it's like, well, they sure didn't count the Cowboys injuries, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.400 nor did it stop any in infections from Corona either. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.120 Maybe seems like, yeah, the guy still got it regardless. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.640 So I don't know. Did the letter point out that 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.680 they were going to take care of the poor guy 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.200 from Denver that was working on his own and tours 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:18.560 Achilles and then now they're now they're offended that Broncos 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.560 would have the nerve to say, well, we're not covering 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.679 this contract. And then they released the guy, They released 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.560 John James, and then not only that, and then they 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.600 had another guy get hurt. Well about the week they 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.479 had no quarterback playing at all right during the season. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.839 During the season. I mean, so when you're talking about 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.359 it didn't affect the teams at all. I mean, I 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.880 don't know about OTAs and doing the regular season, but 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.920 I'd say everything was affected last season. You can't say 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:51.360 that anything really whooked to our satisfaction. Injuries and infections. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.280 This was JC Trenor yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, he's 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.320 got a job and did you but this he wrote this, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.680 It was published yesterday day. It's a new one, May seventeenth, okay, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.000 as we begin phase two of the off season today, okay, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.160 And this, of course is phase two Mickey alluded to 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.440 off the top, where the coaches can actually work with 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.440 the players and so forth. It's important to view the 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.960 program from the player's perspective. The end of the regular 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.680 season to the beginning of training camp spans twenty nine weeks. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.880 Many people suggest that players should participate in their team's 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.359 off season program to avoid any risk of non football injury. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.960 But if players were truly to eliminate all risks NFI 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.680 during the off season, it would mean only training for 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.040 those nine weeks when we have protection at the facility. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:47.000 I'm going to move on down here as it relates 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.440 to what you were just talking. Last year was the 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.000 first time most players got to experience not attending in 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.520 person off season programming. For many, it was eye opening. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.520 This is gonna get this is gonna get this is 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.640 gonna get going here players felt better physically and mentally 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:09.440 in the injury data supports those anecdotes. Now, as we 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.120 stare down the start of the twenty twenty one season, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.320 players are realizing they do actually have a choice in 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.440 how they prepare for the season, and that the voluntary 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:24.360 offseason program truly is voluntary. One might say more players 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.440 than ever are making business decisions about this nine week 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.040 period in a way that they never have before. Less 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.320 than half of all NFL players showed up for Phase one, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.600 and players and players on more than half the teams 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.400 in the league of negotiated new rules for the remaining 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.760 voluntary workout periods. When the public starts taking attendance today 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.040 meaning yesterday, I hope it's noted that players who are 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.239 attending will be doing it on their terms. Our player 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.200 leaders proposed changes to their team's programs, such as shortening 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.040 the number of weeks of the offseason program and decreasing 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.840 the number of practices, as well as decreasing intensity by 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.400 converting practice to walk throughs and removing eleven on eleven periods. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.600 These are significant improvements for our membership. Players are now 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.560 viewing the offseason the way our union intended. Each individual 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.000 player has the right to decide, is my team's program 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:22.120 a valuable enough experience to me that it's worth volunteering 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.720 my off time to participate, considering the CBA to find 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.920 offseason The majority of players answer that question with a 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:33.240 resounding no. The onus then shifts to each individual team 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.960 to create a new offseason program that will cause a 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.160 player to answer that question with a yes. The league 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.240 office has shown zero leadership on the subject, so there 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.559 is no uniformity across the NFL, putting gms and coaches 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.760 in a tough spot. There's one more paragraph here. The 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.080 NFLPA will continue to support our players and exercising the 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.760 rights our union has earned for them, even when it's 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.360 not popular among the public. It is a win in 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.679 itself that for the first time in a long time, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.640 players truly like they have a choice as to whether 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:08.480 they attend voluntary offseason practices. Um I do recall us 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:13.439 making many jokes back in the day about OTAs or 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:18.120 we call them just many camps back in the day, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.640 mandatory or not right, And Tom would always say, well, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.280 it's it's you know, voluntary, but you should show up, 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.719 and you're gonna show up. So if this regard, I 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.640 can see how the Player Association is saying, Okay, we 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.840 finally have a chance to flex our muscle and have 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.600 some decisions. As far as some decision making power in 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.240 this situation, I can see them using this as an 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:50.400 opportunity for that. However, would I beg to differ. Injuries 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.560 and infections still ran rampant last year, and I don't 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.280 know if the OTAs had jack to do with that. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.800 I really have to say that, you gotta I think 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:04.000 that OTAs and injuries, I don't think it had anything 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.280 to do with how it ran out during the season. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.320 It was just a kookie year, and this is the 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.719 Players Association's opportunity to flex their muscles and get get 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.760 a foot in there as far as decision making this concerns. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.000 As far as having the six OTAs rather than the ten, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.520 I think that was a part of the compromise that 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 he talked about. Yeah, and we'll see then how many 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:32.480 guys show up? What do voluntary mean? Darren Hamburg. So 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:37.920 that's an opportunity for the players Association to flex their muscles. Yeah, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.600 and they're trying, they're trying to curry and they're trying 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.240 to curry favor with the players of course for having 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.320 a seventeenth game. And it's like, you know, well we 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:51.640 got stuff, you know, we got more financial uh considerations 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.280 for giving them the seventeenth game. And now everybody's seeing 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.880 the seventeenth game and it's like, oh what what what 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.760 do we get? You know, and it's a big pool 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.000 of money, but it doesn't show up probably in your paycheck, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.240 so to me. So where do they think these guys 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.120 should do their strength and conditioning? They just don't need it. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.800 You know, we're going to go back to the seventies 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.480 when guys did nothing in the odd season, did it 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.640 on their own, Yeah, came in on their own. So 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.199 now doing it on your own is better than doing 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.240 it here with under under jurisdiction of the trainers and 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.480 here as you know, Everson uh and you know, Mickey, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.600 it's a whole different deal than a lot of other 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.280 places around the league because it's a great place to live, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.360 and you know, and and players will come here and 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.600 stay in the off season here, and so it's really 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.920 convenient for the Cowboys and the facility with the facility 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:49.839 here too. But if you're someplace else, you know, other 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.520 cities in the league, so you don't have to fly in. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.120 I get I get that in I get that part. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.800 But again, you're telling the whole league to do this. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.160 You know now now they want to they want to 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:07.079 file a grievance for Juwan James after he tore as 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.080 Achilles because basically they released them and said, you're on 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.280 NFI and we're not responsible for you. You could have 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.360 been here working out like you were until this stuff 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.120 came out and the guys decided to stay home and 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.640 work out on their own. I just think you don't 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.360 the days of showing up for training camp and getting 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.480 ready for the season are over right it that's your job. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.559 I don't care if it's voluntary or not. For your 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.000 own good. You need to be in tip top shape 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.320 when you report the training camp, not go to training 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.320 camp like the old days and all of a sudden start. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.720 I don't think it's gonna be like that. In regards 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.560 to that the onness is on the players. If you're 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.200 going to use this letter as ammunition for whatever your 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.640 offseason schedule is going to be, then you really have 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.680 to You have to get your workouts in and it's 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.199 up to you. I think I could do it if 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.400 I played. You know, I would love to come and 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.880 work out with my guys, but if I would be 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.320 serious about my workout and I'm gonna be in shape 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.480 when I get to train the camp, I always was. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.240 But I'm a defensive back. You know, wide receivers. We're 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.560 all about the same running backs. But when you start 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.079 talking about big guys, start talking about linebackers in linemen, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.839 that's a whole other story. I don't know what it's 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.480 like to go through an off season without being supervised 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.920 on your workouts and you're like two hundred and eighty 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.840 pounds at six feet four inches. To me, that's a 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.720 different ball game. For small guys like us, we can 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.640 come in and shape all the time. And I always 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.119 did see. And my point is the strength and conditioning. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:46.040 I get backing off on the intensity of the OTAs 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.360 because I always thought, you know, you put your helmet on, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:54.280 you got a jersey, shorts, you got your cleats on, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.840 and you're gonna go out there and you're gonna end 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:03.000 up competing, right, and boys will be boys. Right. If 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.840 I'm out there competing, I'm gonna dive for a pass, right, Well, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.000 I ain't got a shoulder pad on, and I'm gonna 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.600 hurt my shoulder. Or if I'm a dB and I'm 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.200 gonna try to go up and knock a ball down 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.000 and I fall, I ain't got a shoulder pad on. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.560 I get backing off on that. There's ways to do 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.760 those OTAs, and I think Jason Garrett did that last year. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:28.320 They the competition part of it, the physical part of it. Yeah, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.080 two years ago. Sorry, they backed off and again you 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.400 know you're okay, you're supposed to come off the ball, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:43.240 touch and then stop. Well, okay, I'm this undrafted free agent. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.040 Well I'm gonna probably give it a little bit more 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.240 because I got to impress somebody. Right, I get that part. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.760 But you can do the OTAs as almost a walkthrough 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.280 or a little bit better than a walkthrough without getting physical. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.080 But the strength and conditioning thing, I don't stamp because 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.400 you're gonna go to the health club. Now. Is that safer? 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.400 Especially if you haven't been vaccinated, Is it safer? Probably not, 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.200 because you're coming here and they're still kind of testing guys, right, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:17.120 So uh yeah, Well we'll see how this whole thing out. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.720 I would call before the pandemic, you had quarterbacks and 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.360 other leaders of teams. They would fly in groups of 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.600 guys and they would all work out together, sometimes on 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.360 different teams. Well, we'll all work out there, like if 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.640 they went to the same school with the same college, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.720 like UT guys get their workouts, you know, cal Berkeley guys, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.000 they will all get together in Oakland get their workouts 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.000 and things of that nature. Which that's very, very beneficial 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:48.000 for specialist guys. Once again, we're talking wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, dbs. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.360 But when you're talking about the center, when you're talking 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.760 about a middle linebacker, when you're talking about the defensive end, 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.560 I don't know where they're going to get that kind 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.200 of work. And if Back has done that, you know 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.520 in that month long period between the end of the 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.600 mini camp and the start of training camp, Attack has 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.760 gotten his receivers together last back last year, right last year, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.200 but he's done it even in previous to last year 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.320 and that month before just to because I mean, you 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.040 got a month off in between. I've never really totally 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.880 understood why. You know, you've got training camp starting on 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.400 July twentieth, Why are you shutting it down on June 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.280 twentieth and giving him a month off to get out 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.840 of shape period? Until it should be the other way around, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.520 you know, you know, I understand, given some time, but 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.360 give him a couple of weeks. You know, the thing 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.400 always took a couple of weeks before training camp has 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.160 always taking least a week or a couple of weeks before. Yeah, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.600 So I could see the whole offseason program getting pushed 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.120 back to the point where you're leading up more to 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.200 the season. You know, maybe that would eliminate and then 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.560 that would eliminate the slower start to training camp because 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.160 you remember last year or the year before, you had 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.320 to have those three or four kind of acclamation days 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.880 before you actually practice football. Have you ever heard of 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.600 a big, a group of big defensive linemen and linebackers 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:07.040 getting together having them Yeah? Who leaving no backyard work? 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.040 Who's leaving that sack Martin's place? Come on, guys, I 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.520 got a football field back I got in ten yards. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.720 That's all we need. We can just dig up a 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.600 bunch of dirt and have something. But I think we 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.919 saw an example of it last year on this team, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.720 the lack of the offseason program with a bigger guy 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.120 like Don Terry po I think Don Terry Poe would 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.160 have been in much better shape to start the season 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.439 if there was an offseason program. Now he was. He 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.280 was terrible the year before. Don't bring that, it's just 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:41.960 to kick somebody else, pick somebody. I agree, though, you 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.960 you have to um, you have to know that the 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.719 different positions, they have to be treated in a in 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.800 a certain manner. And like I said, the big guys, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.199 they're the ones that are gonna suffer. The are the 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.840 ones that suffered here. I don't know about the round 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.440 the league, but we know that we had major problems 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.080 with our big guys, especially offensive lineman. You know, we're 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.640 still worried about our offensive tackle. Hopefully they look good, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.240 you know, they look coming up, they look real good. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.040 They look good. They look good now. And because now 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.359 they're together, you know, I don't know what it would 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.639 have been like last year at this time, you know, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.720 considering that they couldn't get together that much. So this 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.240 year is going to be different. Uh, you know, protocol 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.000 is being laxed a little bit more now. And I'm 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.080 very surprised that this letter came out and that it is. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.639 It helds so many restrictions for the teams. It changed. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.080 It changed the tune because previously it was worried about COVID. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.600 He didn't mention any Now you noticed that that was 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.560 very carefully worried letter. Yeah, it was now about you 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.560 can see this is their opportunity to flex the muscle. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.600 They're just using this right now as just a starting 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.679 point to where, hey, we got your players backs. You know, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.600 this is why you pay your your dude union stuff. Well, 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:02.320 and it's also trying to uh provide some points that 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.679 see the owners didn't win on this, right, right, we 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.600 had our way. What's important? Ever, have you ever been 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.359 in a I know you have. Have you ever been 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.479 in a union? So summers when I was in college, 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.800 I worked at a factory and we had to join 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.320 the union every summer because it didn't carry over to 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.400 the next summer, right, And the union was pretty strong. Yeah, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.280 And it was like a steel door factory. We made 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:33.040 steel doors, and I saw guys just jacking around, right. Well, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.480 the union would support them. They couldn't, you know, they 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.440 couldn't suspend them, couldn't fire them. And it's like, how 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.720 come this guy's not working? And then something had happened. 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.199 They go run to the union, right, right, So my 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.960 last year before my senior year in college, they go 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:51.320 on strike, and I'm going, I need to make money. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.320 I don't need to strike because when you return and 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.720 get better pay in September, I'm not here, right, And 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.919 so we had to to earn strike pay, and I 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.520 think we got like one hundred and thirty dollars a week. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.400 We had to go out on the picket line, right 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.080 and sit out there for however many hours, and people 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.480 are driving by. Yeah, you lazy bums go to work 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.119 and I'm sitting there going like I want to work. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.560 They won't let me, you know. And when they went 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.800 on strike, when they went on strike, and it was 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.640 like a midnight thing, it was it was like a party. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.399 They were celebrating and everybody who's drinking beer sitting on 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.400 didn't have a barbecuegree all out there. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.119 it was like an episode of the King of Queens, 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:42.240 just like but even when we did it, Yeah, there's 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.480 a difference between I've been through two strikes, right, and 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.840 so in eighty two, yeah, I'm still twenty two years old. 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.920 You know, I was still on my little free agent contracts, 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.480 still living the home of my mom, the home of 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.680 my mom in Hempton Park, and so you know that's strike. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:06.800 That's why you had fourteen inners. Oh mom had. It's 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.960 very that's very true, Bill. But what what I had 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.080 was it was a casual, you know, strike for me 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.800 because I'm still at home with my mom. So it's 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.680 not like the bills are just you know, in the 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.840 dating me, I'm not even thinking about what Drew Pierce 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.639 is going through, Harvey Martin's going through, Bob Brune is 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.440 going through, you know, Danny White's going through. These guys 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.280 have families and bills. Well, I found that out in 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.680 eighty seven when I was the union rep here in Dallas. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.120 Now I got my two kids, you know, I got 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.000 a a house, note two cars, you know, and it's 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.800 a different story. Your mentality going into a strike is 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.439 totally different than when you're just a twenty two year 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.080 old just kind of at that channel. Oh oh, we 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.320 don't strike. To me, it's a break, it's a vacation. Yeah, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.399 I'm still living house people. I'm going hanging out with 0:21:55.440 --> 0:22:00.119 my boys. You know, I have no bills. Mentality its 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:06.000 totally different anymore. Eighty seven, you missed three or four paychecks. 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:09.120 Then in eighty seven, yeah, we went. We we went 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.320 three games, yes, and there was one week nothing happened, 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.560 right right, Yeah. And then in eighty two I was 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.879 called after we came back from the strike. I believe 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:25.200 we got a check when we came back for missing Yeah. Really, yeah, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.560 we did a small check. It wasn't it didn't cover everything, 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.000 but it was a small check for that. We got 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.960 nothing like that in eighty seven. And you talk about 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.640 union meetings back then, could you imagine trying to say 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.240 something against Gene Upshaw. You know he wants to fight 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:40.760 you right there in the meeting. I don't know if 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.800 that was going on with you guys, but you know, 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.840 it's like football practice in the meetings. You you say 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.959 something out of line. Hey, hey, wait a minute, I'm 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.560 a union I'm a union guy. Can you please ask 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.159 the question? You know, it was it was still the 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.080 wild wild in the newspaper reporters union. There wasn't a 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:02.680 Gene up show. We had a guild that we didn't 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.840 have notice. Yeah, I don't know what's worse there. Yeah, 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.800 and they did nothing, I guarantee you, and I'll never 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.240 forget the day when when Techs walked out there where 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.280 the guys were picketing, and he wanted to argue with 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:16.880 you guys about what do you do? And he would 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.119 try to talk sense in every or his sense and 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.880 to everybody. It was the funniest thing you ever seen. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.479 It was like Winston Churchill came out to make this speech, 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:32.520 you know, and these guys were naboy throwing stones at 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.600 the bus when the replacement players came in and rocking it. Now, 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.120 that was that nineteen eighty seven strike was the most 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.080 unique moment. I mean it was you know how it 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.879 is if it drags off for a long time, you know, 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.120 the enthusiasm kind of wanes a little bit. So you went, 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.800 we went out. We went from like you said, you know, 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.879 everybody out there a party and having a good time, 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.560 and the energy levels up and you know they're scabbing 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.720 And remember Tony Dust, said Captain Scabb to Randy White 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.640 next day. The next day he asked the crossover at 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.680 the other captain's camp because of his contract. Yes, well, 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.040 let's be real that that had nothing to do with it, 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.280 because I had the same contract, did you. Let's not 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.280 get into that. I'm set that spect. Let's not get 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.240 into it. We're not getting into that contract, No way, 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.800 not doing it. Was such a great theater too well, 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.560 and they they they they incorporated the neighborhood. People came 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.800 in and helped carry signs that were living out there 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.160 in those apartments that lasted. Next thing you know, I'm 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.720 out there by myself. I'm selling cigarettes or something. TV 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.640 TV cameras were gone, and they were gone. Everybody was gone. 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.480 And the only phot the only confrontation I remember was 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.680 Randy White pulled into a Don's Smerick right in his 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.000 truck and they uh, door set and I don't know 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.000 who that got in front of the truck. They were 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:58.919 going to stop him from going in, right. He he 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.359 he puts the thing in neutral, right, and he starts 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.600 reving the engine and all of a sudden he pops 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.120 the clutch. That big old truck. Jump stop those guys, scatter. 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.560 I just saw yesterday the golf. We had some good, 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.280 good talks, but now those weren't the good times. At all, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.440 not at all. All right, Hey, we have to take 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.639 a break. We have to take a break. And what 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.480 do you think about taking phone calls for the first 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.360 time in over a year? The ones like a year 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.440 and a half. Well, let's new shots. 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I don't have it memorized, So okay, I'm 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:41.040 looking Cowboys, okay quickly, since it's already been hashed and rehashed. 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.320 What sticks out to you on the schedule um the 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.600 fact that they've got to do that three games in 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:58.480 twelve days again around Thanksgiving and and starting and then 0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.880 starting with that away game the Sunday before Thanksgiving in 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.880 Kansas City. They've got to play four away games in 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:10.160 five games. That is it, Spags. I'm looking at it 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.040 right now. I saw it this morning and I'm thinking 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.040 that's gonna be a problem. I mean, you got the 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.600 home game versus the Raiders. Great, that's Thanksgiving Day, but 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.440 that's it. That's it. And you got to play a 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.280 dark night game in New Orleans, the worst place in 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.120 the world to play a night the worst place in 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.400 the world to play a game. That doesn't matter who's 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:36.560 playing quarterback, not the Saints. That that I told you guys. 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.400 It sounds the people start to sound like an engine. 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.200 It's like they just transform into some some engine that 0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.520 just you can get louder and louder. It can have 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.280 John four Cade playing for him. It doesn't matter John 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.560 four Cade. Remember that. At first I didn't, but now 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.000 it's coming back to me a little bit. What era 0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.200 was John four Cade? So he was at Old miss 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.000 when I was in Jackson, Mississippi. He was the quarterback 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:10.080 in the early early eighties. I remember intercepted him and 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.479 then he ended up being on I don't know if 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.600 they had practice squads or whatever. And then at the 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.320 one year he had to be the quarterback there for 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.720 the Saints. And honestly say, as this day began, I 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:27.400 didn't he didn't think up well, I got a name 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.880 that I want to bring up before we get to 0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:35.560 the mini camps. Did anybody watch the FCS Championship games 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.480 Sam Houston State against Sale of the game, I saw 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.600 the game winning touchdown, all right. There is a wide 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:47.280 receiver at sam Houston State that transferred from Howard University, 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.440 Jaches Ezzard. He was a player of the game. He 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:56.000 was the MVP. He was the MVP of the semifinal game. 0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:01.000 The semifinal game, I think he had two receptions for 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:06.320 touchdowns and he had a kickoff return for a touchdown. 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.920 And in this game he had two catches for touchdown. 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.480 Ten catches for one hundred and eight yards. Uh two 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:20.520 were for touchdowns in the game, and he returned a 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.440 punt for a touchdown that got called back by a 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:30.800 BS block in the back. This guy, he's he's five 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.400 nine one ninety two and he runs a four four 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:38.760 three and they can't cover him. They had to double him. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.080 And that's why the guy that caught the touchdown, I think, 0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:50.200 day a day, that's why. And he the quarterback. Schmid 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.120 drilled it between three guys, right, but they're worried about 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:59.040 this ball going going to dezard Uh. Even before they 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:03.600 got into that, he could have scored. The quarterback Smith 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.640 went to the wrong receipt right because he was wide 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.080 open the back of the end on the end cut. 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:10.880 I don't know what he was looking at. You know, 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.360 that's the guy you gotta look at. Right the quarterback 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.080 anticipate that he would be double and the safety went 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:22.000 with the other guy right there. And also and also 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.440 on that last drive to set up the touchdown, he 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.800 caught the pass on fourth down coming back diving on 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.200 that past he's diving here. The ball comes this and 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.560 he almost had another touchdown with a one handed behind 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.640 the back catch that he didn't hold on to quite 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.920 long enough. Although the coach exhausted, right, he was exhausted. 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.280 So I checked I checked him out. He's he played 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.440 this year as a grad student student assist. He's got 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:54.360 an eligibility a grad transfer. Uh, he can have one 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.280 more year of eligibility, can they all can? Or if 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.080 if he decides not to and looks like he would 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.760 go into the supplemental It was my question yeah, so 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.800 he could not check that out supplemental draft or what 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.920 he also could do he could transfer to Alabama and 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.920 win the Heisman troll, right and get another year. Yeah, 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.120 so I don't know if you can do that second 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.920 transfer like that, but he's got another year of eligibility 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.000 to do that. So, I mean, they just change the 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.320 rules where everybody can transfer, and this is a guy 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.080 that he's a graduate student, he's immediately eligible. Everyone can transfer. 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.560 This whole transfer portal has just changed the whole So 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.400 check this out. In twenty seventeen at Howard, thirty four 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:41.280 catches eight ninety five, he averaged twenty six point three 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.640 yards a catch, and in twenty eighteen, forty catches for 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.280 one thousand and sixty four average twenty six point six 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:53.240 yards a catch at twelve touchdowns. Twelve touchdowns. So the 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.000 question is, and nobody recruited him from an SBS school, 0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.920 all right, nobody? So what would you do if you 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.480 had his choice? There? Okay, you can you can go 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:10.200 make yourself eligible for the supplemental draft in July. Okay, 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.720 And obviously the rules on the supplemental draft to team, 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.760 it's the same draft order as this year. But teams 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.040 would you would give up? Like, for instance, if you 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:23.880 wanted to draft him in the first round, you give 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.560 up your first round pick for next spring. Okay, would 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.319 Jacksonville do that and add him to the Arsenal for 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.880 Trevor Lawrence with the top pick? I doubt it. I 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.359 don't know if Jacksonville will do it. But if I'm 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.640 the player, if you're the player, do you think you 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:42.640 were the first championship and I was the VP? You 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.400 gotta strike while the iron is hot, yes, and you 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.960 can't wait for another season like this lightning in the 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.279 bottom again to happen. I don't know what's going with 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.640 the quarterback. Is he coming back? How many players are 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.240 coming back? How many would turn it? Can they repeat? 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.480 I'm not going to back any that al I did. Right, Well, 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.680 you need to go down to Sam Houston State and 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.600 advise this kid. Should he should come out right now? 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.960 Strike while it's hot and regardless of what happens. Don't 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.000 you know I went undrafted free agent. If I'm bald 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.040 him like this kid, I'm going to come in and 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.440 make somebody's team. That's just all this to it. So 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:20.319 so I'm thinking if supplemental draft I would give up 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.279 a third for him, I'd take a chance on a third. Oh, 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.160 I was definitely, he's definitely. What about the teams that 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.279 have multiple first and second round draft picks? And if 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:36.120 you have that, yeah, absolutely, And who who did the 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.800 trade to got all the draft picks? It wasn't Miami, 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:44.040 was it Miami? They traded around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Miami did, 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.680 because that's who San Francisco traded up with. And then 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.719 they moved back up to six with Philadelphia, but they 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.919 still have probably multiple picks for next year. And then 0:35:53.520 --> 0:36:01.279 the quarterback trade um with Darnelda right vitud So if 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.520 I had, if I had an extra one, I'm telling 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:09.520 you what they were comparing him to Steve Smith Senior. 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.280 It's kind of like strong legs, you know, a great balance. 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.719 It's kind of like what the Cowboys were looking at 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.799 when they traded for Amari Cooper. Okay, you're giving up 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.160 your first round draft pick next year or for now. 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.799 This is an established player, already established as a Pro Bowl. 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.880 But on the flip side of that, you knew within 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.880 just over a year's time you're about to have to 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.000 pay him one hundred million dollars. Now with this guy, 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.799 if you use a let's say you used a first 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.919 round draft pick on him. You have him not only 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.520 for this season, but for four more years at a 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.239 relatively decent price. It's not free agent money, you know. 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.359 And if you evaluate him as a guy that he's 0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.080 your first round pick, you're getting him six months early. 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.360 You're getting in a season early. Yeah, no, absolute, why 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.759 not use it for if he if you evaluate him 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.839 as a first round pick, then why not use your 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.759 first round pick next year? I was just, let's be 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:06.240 real impressed. They put the best defensive back on him, yes, 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.319 all over the fat, yes, and he made him look 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:12.440 pretty bad. So if you're the Cowboys, Michael Gallop is 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.040 a free agent after next year, I don't think you 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.279 can afford a first or a second, but I do 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.120 a third. You know what I would do leave Michael 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:27.120 Gallup alone. I would do, you know what, even with 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:32.000 this guy's my special team's returner, right, and I got 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:36.760 another special team's job that that should be filled. Michael 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.320 Parsons should be the punt protector because I'm gonna snap 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.640 him the ball and let him run. They were stuff, 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.200 So they were doing a drill out here, and it 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.359 was kind of a special teams deal where they were 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.759 trying to simulate tackling, and so once you did that, 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.640 then you had to go to the other line and 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.440 you had to take the ball and run and the 0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.160 guy had to try to raise up with you. Right, 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:06.200 he put a move on one poor guy. No paths, right, 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.839 but he put this move on this guy. And I'm going, well, 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.360 that's why in high school he ran for twelve hundred 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.960 yards as a junior. We'll see. Now that's not fair either. 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:20.120 I must say my first drill. Okay, as a Dallas Cowboy, 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.759 we're working on covering out routes his defensive backs. I 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.160 don't know who swipp flip the switch. But when I 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:28.960 get up there, all of a sudden, instead of ain't 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.839 going down and out like the other twenty five other 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:35.319 guys did, they want to come out and up? Come on, man, 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.800 what's going on? Then Gene stalls in my face, calling 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.640 me a boy, and all of this, like, okay, it 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.640 was extremely unnecessary that I bet was No, No, it 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.640 was should not do that. Whatever it was, whatever they 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.759 were doing. Do you remember who the receiver was? It 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.959 didn't matter, he didn't make the team. I'm still here. 0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:04.840 I'm still here for years. I'm still here, Okay, minicamp, miniamp, 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:10.439 tell me about miniamper So, just you know, looking at 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:16.160 the draft choices, the guys they drafted looked apart. Now 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.200 I don't know how well they're going to play there 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.400 out there in shorts and whatever, but they looked apart. 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:27.880 Michael Parsons looks like a linebacker. He moves like a linebacker. 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:31.920 And when they went to very short session of Lebanon eleven, 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.600 uh and then seven on seven. The eleven on leven 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:42.319 was mostly running run game, and he has this ability 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.839 with all that muck in front of him to see 0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.720 the angle, where to go to find the ball players, 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.719 the ball carrier. It was, it was, it was just 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.000 it was amazing to watch, right, and he was always 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.000 kind of like in this right spot at the right 0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.279 time the other thing, and maybe this is the way 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.080 it's supposed to be. But when they were doing individual drills, 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.319 first one in line, every time you go behind me. 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.800 The best part about it when they went to their 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.279 position drills, There's only three linebackers out there, so it 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.440 was like private lessons, right, and guess who was running 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:22.080 the linebacker drills. George Edwards defensive assistant last year, right 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.680 or consulted whatever they called him. He was taking care 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:30.200 of the linebackers. So I noticed that right away, very 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:36.080 vocal running the drills. Dan Quinn was working with the 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:40.160 defensive lineman the whole time. Whatever they were doing, he 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.160 was down there. And by the way, he's got a 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:49.920 pretty good nickname that I think he should get some 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.480 advertisement for it, because they call him d Q. Okay, 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:57.520 I told you that last week. DQ. That's what'd be 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:03.600 calling these draft picks, the DQ do Derry Quayenne advertisement 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.040 right there. Well, the guys and q do. The guys 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.960 have picked up on him because when they referred to 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.040 him as yeah, well d Q said, and it's like 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:16.280 d Q uh so, yeah, he was running those drills. 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:21.600 But the guys looked the part uh Kelvin Joseph. He 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.920 looks like a cornerback. And and and he's really quick. 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.839 Anybody wearing number twenty four, yeah right, And he had 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:32.719 the right number, twenty four okay, okay, okay, And and 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.799 he just runs a lot faster than idea. And he 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.960 you know, he didn't have the big interception or twenty four. 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.920 He was covering. He was covering guys. They they didn't 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.040 get past him. Um, he's running. He's running like what 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.279 low for threes? Yeah? Yeah, at four two nine. I 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.680 see that. It's not just the speed though, it's the 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.800 it's the hip movement right, and he's he's very fluid. 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.839 That's what you want. Jabril Cox fourth. I don't know 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.440 how this guy lasted to the fourth round. I mean 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:08.759 he told you what he's like. Uh, linebacker. They had 0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.560 him on the week side Michael Parsons as the middle 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.560 and when they went seven on seven, Um, they there 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.640 was a deep pass, the ball got tipped and Cox 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.959 caught it. He picked it up and they were thirty 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:27.160 yards down field, So he dropped that far with those receivers. 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.759 Think about where they played. You know, you played in 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.839 the SEC, right, and you're looking at balls going down 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.439 the field. You're accustomed to that. This is nothing new 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.439 for you. You know you're gonna get in the way 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.680 of plays. And when you have a linebacker that's a 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.799 customer being down the field the way he did all 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.520 season his whole career in LSU, playing against all these 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.840 SEC teams, it's nothing new to him. Ball skills or 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.480 something that's that's it's something he had to have the start. 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.359 He played one year at LSU. He was at North 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.040 Dakota State before that, playing up the road in Frisco 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.040 and nationale hip and three years and three years and 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.440 so he's an example of a guy getting back to 0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.840 that wide receiver from sam Houston State. He's here's an 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.319 example of a guy who played winning national championships at 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:14.160 the FCS level and then during COVID decides, okay, I'll 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:19.440 go ahead and transferred national champion. And what'd that do 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.040 for his draft stock? Nothing? He got drafted in the 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.239 fourth round. Well, he looks the part, and the other 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.480 guy that looks the part is quintin Bohanna. I was 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:36.040 looking for some dump truck to come in there, run Terry. Well, yeah, 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:41.000 there there you go. And that's said because Don Terry 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.680 was so good God coming out of college. Please. So 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:49.400 he's six four six four, three thirty or three twenty 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.520 seven whatever. He probably ate breakfast and he's three thirty 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.760 and it's a good three thirty and he can move. 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.960 And we need this guy to be good because he's 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:07.560 a great interview, right, somebody at somebody asking him about 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.200 clogging up the middle and whatever. He goes, Oh man, 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:14.680 he goes, linebackers love me, you know. And he was 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.680 just everything that everything that he that he that he 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:23.120 had to say, it was somewhat funny. Uh. And they 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.839 were talking about, well, what do you need to prove 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.000 on He goes, well, I got to get stronger. He goes, 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.279 I was strong in college. Now I got to get 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.920 NFL strong and and so he understands it, uh, and 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:37.480 talk about private lessons because he was the only like 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.520 nose tackle that they had to work with, right, oci 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:45.360 O Digazuo is a three technique, but yeah, this Bohannan 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.279 guy keeping and he kind of dinged his shoulder. Uh. 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.640 And he came out and they didn't have another defensive 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:56.000 tackle to go in there. So d Q turns his 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.480 hat around and goes and plays nose tackle right and 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.239 always do a stand up and go like this. Right. 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.799 They asked Bohannah about it, and he goes, yeah, he goes, 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.919 you know these coaches, they get older and they still 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.960 think they go back to the old days. Right. And 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.440 then he went back in right a couple of plays 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.560 later and he goes, yeah, he goes, I had to 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:20.000 go get DQ and tap him out. Tell me about 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.400 the kids from Kentucky. How do you look the other kid? 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:29.040 Bohannah's from Kentucky. But right, Joseph was a guy I 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.640 was talking about twenty Yeah, and I'll tell you another 0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:37.920 guy who looks the part is the Chauncey Golston. He's long, 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.920 I mean, his arms are forever. He's tall, slender, and 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:46.040 he's pretty quick. They had him working at right right 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.520 defensive end and you know, he said, I can play 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:53.400 both whatever you whatever you want, I'm being on that 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.640 defensive end side. He's more. I think he's he's a 0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.479 defense the way his legs are built, it's a defensive line. 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.080 He's too he I think at the at the Pro 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.160 day he was two seventy. He got down to two seventy. 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.600 I think he played more at two seventy. That's good. So, 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.520 I mean he's kind of Tyrone Crawford as far as 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.920 what his commensions were coming out of college, you know. 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:21.440 And then the guy that everybody was so worried about 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.000 because they took him in the third round, Nashan. Right, 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:30.000 he's tall, he's skinny, but he can move and he 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:34.560 was interviews to his interview was great, and he's been 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.240 having this back and forth thing with Richard sh Yeah, right, yeah, 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.440 what is going on? Well, he said he noticed that 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.560 what the media made a big deal of him, saying, I'm, 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.640 you know, more more athletic. And he goes, and I 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.040 didn't mean anything by it, So he goes, I made sure. 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.239 I don't know if it was Instagram. He said, yeah, 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.520 he said, m m hey, no offense. Yeah, and and 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.160 Sherman was evidently okay with him. All I understand, but 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.120 he could move. You asked about hip hips. Oh my, 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:07.359 so he broke up one pass and again, take this 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.000 for what it's worth. He's playing against guys that aren't 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.279 going to be in the league, right. The two quarterbacks 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.560 were basically here on a tryout basis, And the reason 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.759 they were here on a tryout basis is they needed 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.640 a quarterback to do mini camp because they wouldn't let dnut. 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.400 They thought Denucci would be able to be eligible and 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.239 he wasn't, so they brought those two guys in. And 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.640 the receivers you know who know. And the wind is 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:34.680 blowing on Saturday. They may have a problem out there 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.919 with a wind tunnel away. The new building is there, 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:41.320 but anyway, he makes a diving interception and and and 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.520 I liked what he had to say afterwards, and he goes, yeah, 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.759 he goes, you know, I make the diving interception and 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.399 you know, I'm I'm used to being down. He goes, 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.239 I had to think, Oh, I can get up and run, 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.240 and he did. So keep an eye on this guy 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.440 because you know, if if you need a guy to 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.560 body up any and he can run, that's a tall 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.320 guy to get the pass over. If he's cover actually 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.440 knows who he's covering and what to do. To me, 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:12.719 what's as important is just having the mindset and the 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.799 culture to change. Because they talked about it, cowboys are 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.840 looking for more playmaking defensive backs. Well, how do we 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.759 get to this position to where we don't have any 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:25.319 playmaking defensive back? And they don't mean tackling, they don't 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.879 mean making plays on the running back. We're talking about 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.399 making plays on the ball deep down the field. We're 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:36.000 talking about recognition by safety. Instead of him being caught 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.360 up on a twenty yard incut, you have to be 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.640 ready for that post route that's coming behind you. So 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.040 the recognition of the schemes that are becoming at you, 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.800 that's what's important. It's not about you know how fast 0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:49.960 you can run and what you're looking drills? Can you 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.640 make plays on the ball. That's the culture that needs 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.359 to be continued. I'm sorry it was continued, it was discontinued. 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.520 That's the culture that needs to begin again around him, 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.279 the one, the one undrafted free agent. Can we save 0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:06.120 it for the next segment. Okay? Remember that? Okay, that's 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:11.399 our tea. I better writing down one undrafted remember three 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:16.120 two minutes the next Everson Walls undrafted free agent. Okay, 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:20.400 and Gary Jackie Flash requested that we give the phone 0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.279 number again because we were a little quick on it 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.439 the first time. Eight eight eight eight five five two 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:31.200 two nine seven. That's eight eight eight Jackie Flash eight 0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:35.680 eight eight eight five five two two nine seven and 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.560 the undrafted free agent that caught Mickey's eye. When we 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:43.840 come back, we're back in a tasty treat that's sweeping 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.920 air waves and taste buds. It's new Doctor pepper and 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.680 cream Soda. 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Visit Dallas 0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:01.640 Cowboys dot com slash United for detail. All right, before 0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:07.719 we forget, we need the undrafted rookie that caught Mickey's 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.160 eye at Rookie Minicamp over the weekend, and it just 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.440 happened to be a defensive back. It was a safety 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:20.600 from Purdue, Tyler Coyle, six foot two oh nine, undrafted. 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.040 He looked like he knew what he was doing back there, 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:29.440 so we'll keep an eye on him. Also, one of 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:34.000 the guys I didn't mention Mukuamu. Is that how I say, 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.600 Israel Mukamu you can call him is he is? He 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:42.080 six four two twelve and they moved him to safety, 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:46.560 and he looked like a safety. I mean he was 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:54.359 fluid and his physical presence was pretty impressive. So keep 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.839 an eye on those two safeties. I like him, And yeah, 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.320 I don't think many people knew about him because J. C. 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:06.400 Horne played opposite him at South South Carolina, right, and 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.839 so when you watch jac Horne you probably saw him 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.759 in practice. It must have had a great defense in 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.359 South Carolina, right, Yeah, they got a good defense, got 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:19.480 a great defensive backfield didn't work out, didn't really work 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:21.799 out for them, as far as I was going to say, 0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:25.200 they weren't very good. Now, the running back that we 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:28.960 were talking about for South Dakota State, his name is 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:35.080 Davis Isaiah, and he's a freshman from Joplin, Missouri. One 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:39.360 hundred and seventy eight yards on fourteen carries and that 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:44.080 eighty five yard go ahead touchdown. I had a feeling 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:46.800 it wouldn't be enough. I just knew it. And the 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.160 way the game was going and the announcers, oh, they 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.120 backed him up. They got a long way to go. 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:56.880 It's like, no, it only takes one place. Now, the 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:59.480 eighty five yard was amazing. This is a kid here, 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.400 he's a true refreshman. If I'm not mistaken. Now, that 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:06.000 was a very good runner and a very good ball game. 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:10.280 Don't sleep on the I still say one double at 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.879 a class, guys, that's you got a lot of heart 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.200 coming from thost. I finally remember the acronym, so I 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.799 can say FCS now with you know, because I never 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.360 knew is a FBS. It's so FCS. I got it. 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.560 I'm moving on from one double A and I tell you, guys, 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.120 I have to go back to this schedule. And we 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:33.960 started talking about how it was around Thanksgiving, coming out 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:38.800 of Thanksgiving, and that that stretch of the three games 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:44.200 twelve days. So you're still looking at three NFC East 0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:50.759 games in a row, two against Washington UH and one 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.600 against the Giants in New York. So two of those 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:57.160 three games on the road. That part right there just 0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:01.200 makes me extremely nervous for the last five or against 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.840 the East. There goes the Eagles, Yes, there go the 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:05.839 Eagles as the last game. All right, let's get more 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:07.960 in the draft here. In a second. But we've got 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:17.000 Philip from France. All right, Hi, how you doing? We 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:22.200 are good? Okay. I'd like to say one one thing 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:26.400 to mister Walter. I wish to see you soon in Campton. 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:33.040 I'm not um old enough to watch you play, but 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.840 I do some research and I love it. I just 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:45.239 very quick questions after this rookie minicamp, how many UM 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:51.480 of our rookies or drafted rookies we'll make the team 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.680 UM for next season? Thanks for taking Michael, take care 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.880 and be safe. Bye bye, thank you. What does Philip 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:04.080 good for being the first ever caller on BIX shots? Uh? 0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:10.520 Do we have any awards that we can calls? We 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:16.000 didn't know we had listeners lessons? Yes, right, let's come 0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:18.920 up with something. So how many of these draft picks 0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:23.879 make the final roster? Well, I was thinking if out 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:26.600 of eleven, if you can get seven to make the team, 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:30.239 that's pretty good. And then get practice squads too. Yeah, 0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:34.120 and a couple of practice squads, I would think, you know, 0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:38.319 unless somebody they get released and somebody picks them up. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.200 You know they think we're talking. Yeah, I think all elevens. 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.160 You got Tyler Coyle making me too. As the undrafted safety. 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.480 He's going to knock off one of those veterans in 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:51.160 a one year deal. We'll see how how well he 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.160 does when se that big boys, we're talking draft picks, 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:57.200 but also, like you said, undrafted free agents. One of 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:00.759 them might just slip in there. Yeah, so yeah, I 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:04.520 could see. We got we got two undrafted free agents 0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:06.719 going to the Hall of Fame, so come on, yeah, 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.000 we gotta give them some tried, tried. And speaking of that, 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:14.279 the Cowboys opened the preseason against the Pittsburgh Steelers in 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.360 the Hall of Fame game on August fifth. Man, you 0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:21.520 tell me the famers. Oh my god, Cowboys in Steelers. Yeah, man, yea. 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:25.600 And your buddy Jimmy Johnson's going into Ja Jaj's going in. 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:28.880 You know. We talked man, me and Jimmy. Cool. Yeah, 0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.560 we talked. You got a hold of them. I got 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.919 a hold of them. Yeah right, that was interesting. Good. 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.680 We'll talk about that. Actually, he yeah, we saved that 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.120 for next week. Yeah, next Tuesday. What I'm here? Yeah, 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:45.880 that's right, not the following Tuesday. Thursday, Yeah, Thursday. But 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.920 the other thing on those drafted players and one of 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:53.560 the reasons that the Stephen Jones cited that they wanted 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.120 to go ahead and use those draft picks is because 0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.000 of where where they are with the salary cap, and 0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:03.960 so these drafted players have a better chance. There's more 0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.640 of them that have a better chance of making the 0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:08.240 team this year than in past years because of where 0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.520 they are in the salary cat they're squeezed. Yeah, and 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.600 they would have to knock off somebody that's you know, 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:15.840 the salary based salary. I mean you could say five 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.280 thousand dollars if you if a rookie, you know, a 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:24.920 sixth round draft Bohannah makes the roster, and you release 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.600 a guy that's making you know, a veteran minimum of 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.880 one point one million. Well, and and if you look 0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:36.840 at it, though, the two guys they signed in free agency, 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:43.040 right Carlos Watkins and Brett Urban. Watkins is in his 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:48.040 fifth year and Urban is eight years. But after that, 0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:54.080 Terrell Basham, he got a little bit of money, he 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.400 got more money, and then the rest of the guys 0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:58.800 they might knock off. I might be a second year guy. 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:01.800 So it's not really like you're saving who heck of life. 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:07.840 They don't have, Like there's no Um Thomas the linebacker, 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.360 the veteran last year, like he's not Joe's not here anymore. 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:15.120 So they already got rid of Antoine Woods and Woods 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.880 is gone. So there's a reason that Woods was let 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.080 go because they took care of their business in the 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:25.080 draft getting these defensive linemen, so that that move was 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:30.960 made then and then guys like Noah Brown and and 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:37.080 Um Wilson, Cedric Wilson, who's would make the same amount 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:40.400 as Woods was. If you're the fourth and fifth wide receiver, 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:44.440 better be careful because you never know if Hooku can 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.600 play or he's worth keeping, or if you have a 0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:51.160 rookie free agent that can come in and take your spot. 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:55.240 And you save a million dollars because when I looked 0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:58.880 at the salary cap, every millions going to count. You know, 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.640 it's not like you say, oh, it's only a million. See, 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:03.920 that's where the Cowboys are out on the Sam Houston 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:09.600 statewide receiver US using next year's first round pick because 1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:11.960 you have to pay a money this year. They don't. 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.240 They don't have the money to spend the first round pick. 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.840 In the third round, fourth round, you will be able to. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.640 But again, those are blind drafts, like you write down 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:26.240 I want and we wanted fourth and then however, the 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.520 order is the you know what's like bidding on a house, right, 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:35.960 that's right? All right? One more thing on the schedule, Um, 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:42.120 Cowboys go to New England on October seventeenth. Who will 1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:45.040 the starting quarterback be for the Patriots in that game? 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:48.200 The Patriots now have what's the date? A game that's 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:53.320 October seventeenth, six sixth game of the season, sixth game 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:57.960 of the season. The Patriots yesterday signed Brian Hoyer. So 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:02.080 now they've got Cam Newton, their first round pick, Mac Jones, 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:07.040 Jared Stidham, and Brian Hoyer their four quarterbacks in camp. 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.840 So who's going to be playing quarterback for the Patriots 1:01:09.880 --> 1:01:12.800 when the Cowboys go in there on Sunday October seventeenth. 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.240 I still see Cam Newton, Mac Jones. Why they signed 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:21.800 Brian Hoyer? Maybe so the Cowboys don't get them? Oh 1:01:22.360 --> 1:01:25.400 so nicky Nicky says, the Cowboys are still in the 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.600 marketing for a backup. Oh, I think they are. I 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.360 think they should be. I think they're waiting for somebody 1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:33.720 like that to get released. You don't jump the gun here, 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:37.040 but you want them, you want them now. If it's 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:39.360 a veteran, veteran doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You like 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.480 them for the start of training camp, not the end 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:43.640 of training kiss. Yes, And that's when most of those 1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:45.560 guys will get released. At the end of training Well, 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:50.840 Andy Dalton got released this week last it was the 1:01:50.880 --> 1:02:00.760 week after the draft, Joe Burrow. But somebody, I would 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.360 think some of these other teams are going to release. 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:03.720 How much money do you have to spend on it 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:09.200 at that point if you don't have a job? Two million, 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:10.960 a million and a half. I mean, the Cowboys have 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:14.040 two million to spend quarterback. They could make that okay, 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:16.160 because they're gonna ask my question. They're gonna have because 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:19.280 because I was I was saying, you know, AJ McCarron 1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:23.919 had a history with nuss Meyer at Alabama, and I thought, okay, 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:25.720 a J. McCarron might be a guy that they could 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.320 bring in. Not that he's got many NFL skins on 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.640 the wall to speak of, but he got signed by 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:34.440 Atlanta for one point two million dollars, So that was 1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:37.720 the market. That's the market for those quarterbacks now. Yeah, 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.120 and especially the closer you get the training camp and 1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:44.080 you don't have a job. One point two looks good. 1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:46.400 But the Cowboys are sitting there with four quarterbacks. Yeah, 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:52.000 you know, with with Dak and Garrett Gilbert and Danucci 1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:55.880 and Cooper Rush. Okay, and you don't want you don't 1:02:55.880 --> 1:02:59.040 need five quarterbacks in camp. No, so somebody would get 1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:01.480 somebody would go, would get released. If you got a 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.360 veteran that's kind of proven that you think, Okay, this 1:03:05.080 --> 1:03:09.400 this guy. While you're gonna say there's competition, he's probably 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:13.840 my guy. So yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has a bunch 1:03:13.880 --> 1:03:21.720 of quarterbacks now, and they had signed h Blaine Gabbert, 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.720 who was their backup last Papa Bay. Tampa Bay. I'm sorry, 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:29.080 Tampa Bay. Yeah, yeah, Tampa Bay's got a bunch, and 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:32.240 they had signed another guy the week before, Ryan I think, 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:36.520 Bryan Griffin. I think, yeah, that's it. Yeah, so yeah, 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:40.640 they may release one of those guys and you never know. 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:45.160 Um and there was another veteran that just got signed 1:03:45.680 --> 1:03:49.680 um Well. And then Tampa also drafted Kyle Trask, the 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:52.880 rocky second round draft pick out of Florida. So yeah, 1:03:53.000 --> 1:03:55.439 some of these, some of these guys, they're gonna there's 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:58.680 definitely gonna be quarterbacks available at the end of training camp, 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:01.920 and I would imagine kind of, you know, betting on 1:04:02.080 --> 1:04:05.160 that right now and just kind of say, okay, let's 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:07.400 hold tight. We got enough to go to training camp. 1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:12.240 But if something happens, here's what we can do. Okay, 1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:14.480 that does it for this edition to Mix Shots. I 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:16.960 can't wait till next week's show where we get to 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:21.480 hear about Everson's conversation with Jimmy Johnson. Oh boy, that's 1:04:21.520 --> 1:04:24.440 a great tease. Don't miss this, all right, Remember we 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:27.720 get Jimmy to join us and they can. Please, we'll 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:29.880 see it and we'll see what kind of what kind 1:04:29.920 --> 1:04:35.000 of pull Everson has. You guys want it. I did 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:40.160 it to make the moves. I'm here. You get Jimmy. 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:42.600 I'll still be here, so y'all make the move. Don't 1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:45.000 put anything on me. Hey, we'll tell him. We'll put 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:47.480 him in the Mix Shots Ring of Honor. That's right, 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:52.400 you know, that's right. And Philippe goes into the Ring 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:54.880 of and we need to talk about about the Hall 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:58.080 of Famer, that's right. Yeah, okay, No, that would be 1:04:58.360 --> 1:05:01.040 very cool. Yeah, him about the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:03.520 maybe someone who's recently talked to him could ask you 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:08.560 into okay. We continue with more mix shots next Tuesday 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:11.160 at eleven thirty, where we will take more of your 1:05:11.200 --> 1:05:18.919 mini phone calls. I'm not coming up next week. I'm not. Yeah, 1:05:18.960 --> 1:05:23.800 I forgot Chris waited for you. This has been a 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:27.400 production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:28.160 Football Club.