WEBVTT - Parasites 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.200 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.640 These are our stories. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:31.480 Done done, Hello, and welcome to another episode of your 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.239 favorite podcasts. That's Messed Up an SVU podcast with me 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.360 Kara Klink and I'm Lee's a Tragger. We talk SVU crimes, 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.760 talk to celebs. We really have a great life here 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:46.800 on the podcast, yep. And before that, we like to chat, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.760 which some of you love and some of you don't, 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:49.879 but either way, it's happening. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.240 We're in the city. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.200 So I did want to start with actually some SVU 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.480 stuff I found that I guess it was posted a 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.240 month ago and I didn't watch it, but on YouTube 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.440 Vanity Fairplay, said Marishka. Her gut rewatches Long Order SVU 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.920 from seasons one to twenty five, and it's Marishka watching 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.080 important things that have happened to her. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.840 And then I mean she cries almost every year. She's crying. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.000 You watched it. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.200 I saw clips, I saw clips like on instude, stuff 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.840 like of just her and people. You guys, listeners have 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.039 sent it to us and stuff. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.480 It was so amazing. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:27.039 So I finally watched it and she's a she cries baby, yeah, 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.919 but the Robin Williams. I think she was being funny 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.000 because they were showing the Robin Williams episode and she goes, yeah, 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.760 I really don't even remember that one, and then they're 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.360 like the pillow fight. She goes, oh, that's for that, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.880 But then she goes in depth talking about Robin Williams 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.400 and like truly cries and can't see it, can't even 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:43.240 finish a sentence. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.040 So I'm like, was she kiddy? I don't know. Yeah, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.960 she also went she. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.760 Like raised the roof in the interview as well, but 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.480 it was I'll tell you. It was the Maria episode 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.960 nine one one where she won the Emmy and she goes, oh, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.720 then I fucking deserved winning because she said there wasn't 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.600 a little girl, there wasn't a voice. It was the 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:06.240 script coordinator going, please help me, I need your help, Like, no. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.320 Actor, you guys couldn't get a stand in. You can 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.720 get someone to act with her. Geees. Right. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:18.639 Then they picked Pablo Schreiber episode and that was, you know, tough. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.560 To tough watch. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.160 William Lewis then it was the scene where Ben's It 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.200 was after Benson saves baby Eli in the car with Kathy. Yeah, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.120 he like grabs her to hug and she's bawling talking 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.520 about this hug. You know at the care she goes, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:38.040 you know, it's so much said without saying anything, and 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.800 she goes. Usually when I watch stuff, I go, I 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.480 could have changed this. I could have done that, batter, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.079 I could have made that richer. And she goes that 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.399 like is perfect. And then it was the Robin Williams 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.919 and so those are the epic scenes that Vanity Fair 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:50.799 thought to talk about. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.200 I still think it's bullshit that that baby was not 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.079 named Oliver. That is bullshit that they did not name 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:57.720 that baby. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.639 Great we are talking. That is like question number one 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.600 when we finally get Marishka on this podcast. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.880 Okay, I've never I've never talked about this, Come on, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:08.959 we haven't never, I've never. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.120 I agree with you, it should have been named after Olivia. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.880 But I didn't even hear the name Oliver, Like it 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.320 didn't even come to my brain. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.239 But that totally made Ali Ali. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.720 Right, Like what I mean, yeah, like Olivier, I guess 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.880 if you want to be friendshaned, like weird. But yeah, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.720 that of course, like this baby miracle happens from this 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.760 other woman in your life who has provided you with 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.960 so much partnership. She jaws of life, fucking saves your 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.480 wife and your baby's life, and you're like, you know, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.200 Whoman named the baby after me? 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.560 Like insane behavior. No, he said Kathy. 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.480 He goes to Kathy wants to name him Eli after me, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.120 and it's like or Eliah, and it's like, but why 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.240 wouldn't even cat that? 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.120 Yeah, the right a. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.240 We actually have to ask someone about that. Oh well, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.440 Marishka hopefully because you're right, it doesn't make sense. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.880 Yeah, it would have been like it would have been, okay, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.520 maybe my dad's advocate now obviously is popping up, or 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.680 like maybe it's like they did want to continue to 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.640 make their be tension between the two of them, and 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.560 I do feel like naming your child after somebody provide 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.240 like that's like you're in my family now, and for 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.520 them to ever get together after that it would. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.600 Be fucked up. So maybe that's why you. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.880 Think it's that kind of a It could be like 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.120 I missed one of the things. It was one of 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.160 the episodes she directed, which I did. I don't remember 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.080 at all, so I wonder if it's this current season 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.440 and it maybe be like, oh, I have to catch 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.320 up because but it was a giant manhunt and she 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.240 said it was like raining and so many extra but 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.279 which I didn't think about. She goes, but when I direct, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.120 it's hard because directors usually get a week of prep, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.360 but I don't because I'm on set right So it's 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.320 like she's on set and having the prep. Yeah, so 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.520 I'd never thought about that kind of double duty. But 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:59.440 her bangs looks incredible and I don't know, I loved it. Yeah, Well, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.320 they all went to back to work this week because 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.000 Iced Tea posts I saw today work. Yeah, I think 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.480 today is the first day. I was actually just looking 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.760 up some things. I feel like I saw something interesting on. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.040 Woll Ice Tea is funny. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.239 He goes and when they ask what I did summer break, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.160 I'm gonna show him this and it's like, hey, I'm 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.960 at a giant concert, you know, performing. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.720 But yeah, like Marishka always has like a luxurious summer break, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.440 like she's always in Italy. I feel like she was 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.760 on safari, like she she's kids around. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.239 Yeah. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:32.320 Yeah, but then she recently was she had Rowin's and 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.720 oh my god, I'm only saying Scanavino, but what am 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.240 I trying to say? Careesi? She had Rowins and Caresy. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.680 I'm like doing some kind of beach walk for Joyful Heart. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.719 So she's been chilling with the co stars leading up 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.280 to the I mean, we would love to start fundraising 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:48.000 for Joyful Heart. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.599 We would do a bit, get us, get us on 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.360 the INVI list. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.120 If you work for Joyful Heart and you're listening to 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.800 this pod, we are happy to call them out if 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.080 you are somehow not in the know. That is her 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.719 foundation that does a lot of really important work, and 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.760 it has definitely been a sister PEG at one point. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.520 But well, I have a little this is going on. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.360 Well, I'll tell you so you know, I never pay 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.840 attention to anything. I'm not really an organized person. I 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.159 write a show, I go seven thirty show, Brooklyn whatever. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.640 Yes, So I had. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.680 Written last Night Lincoln Center. I knew it wasn't gonna 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.360 be the real Lincoln Center. So I was like, cause 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.960 the Kennedy Center has all these different rooms, right, I 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.039 performed at the Kennedy Center, but in one of the 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:28.520 side rooms that look like at Mitst. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.960 Of a holding, you know, a door room. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:32.880 I don't think I said it right, but I've done 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.520 daytime shows in the little theaters there, so I assume 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.839 Lincoln Center was like that, where there was tons of 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.400 little rooms and we were doing some sort of showcase. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.640 But we show up. It's actually a really cool program. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.520 I should find out the name. But this woman, Susette, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.320 does it and she gets grants from the city and 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.640 she puts on free comedy shows all over the city 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.640 and this one is weekly. But it's in the it's 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.880 in the parking garage first level, so there's no doors 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.560 that's outside through. It's like because it's not a garage 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.480 because both sides are open, but you can drive through. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:08.080 So it's like this driveway garage entrance under Lincoln Centers 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.360 where this show is. But the green room's air conditioned. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.320 It's really nice. And I went to PJ. Clarks for 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.080 the first time. Yeah, not that good. No, The thing is, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.160 I didn't think it was going I thought it was 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.360 gonna be overpriced, but fine, like solid, like a country 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.520 club food or something like that, where it's like you 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.000 are spending more. It's an institution. It was good twenty 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.320 five years ago. But it'll be good, you know. Yeah, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.800 And it was just not See, my old boss was 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:34.520 obsessed with PJ. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:35.920 Clarks, and I went through with him a couple of 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:37.680 times where he would have like he actually threw a 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.160 couple of like events after screenings and stuff there. But 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.480 like everybody always said the burger was the best thing there. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.679 And I don't see you hot for the burger. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.720 We got fish and chips and split some me so 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.040 kind of clams with cilantro, and it was just it 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.400 just because it is it's like a thirty five dollars 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.160 fish and shit, you know what I mean, it's four 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.720 oysters for twenty something, Like, I don't know it was. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.640 It was what it was. It was what it was. Yeah, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.840 but they're sitting next to me. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.400 Was a fucking idiot listening to them talk. But anyway, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.120 so but I just knew Upper West Side you would 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.120 know PJ. Clark, and I was happy to have tried it, 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.360 and honestly I would go again and try the burger. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.280 It smelt amazing. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.640 Yeah, the burger is supposed to be the thing, I guess, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.200 but I don't know. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:21.560 I couldn't. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.280 Yeah, you don't need me eat My friend Jared Goldstein. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.080 I went with it. He doesn't eat dairy, you know whatever. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.280 Yeah. So but I go to the show. It's all 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.720 going for I'm last on it. I go up. It 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.160 does start raining and we're in this parking garage but 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.439 you could see the rain on either side of the openings. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:37.160 But I don't mind. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.240 I'm not doing that well to be honest, like, I'm 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.400 not really clicking with this garage audience, but I have 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.160 some people that are into it. Then it starts pouring, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.880 and then towards the end of my set, I don't 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.320 know where I'm at time wise, but a woman jumps 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.160 onto the stage and she goes, we have to end 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.440 the show early, and I go, was it something I said? 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.920 She goes the rain and it started flooding. It was 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.720 like the it was a Sylvester Stillone movie. So the 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.080 water is like rushing in. It is flooding into this thing. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.800 They're pushing people out the other end. People are mopping 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.719 and vacuuming water and it's just like a full storm. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.000 Literally, this is comedy. This is comedy. You can be 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.360 shooting your own fucking Netflix hour with people making it 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.320 all about you. You're you're shooting this wonderful production and 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.160 a month later you're fucking and a flooded parking lot 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:36.200 that is comedy. Like there's simply nothing else to say, like, well. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.800 Yeah, and then you know this. But then I you know, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.400 I'm filming the next day. All of a sudden, last 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.680 night they tell me, they're like, we'll pick you up noon. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.680 I go noon on Friday, they go tomorrow. I'm like, what, Like, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.800 I have things. I'm like, we have an important guess 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.160 I can't cancel, so they're picking me up later. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.520 But it is Yeah, it's wild. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:10:00.120 The disrespect just like, oh my god, so dirty, and 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.160 I like it was just flooding in and I mean 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.680 there's there's something cool to like doing cool like, you know, 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.280 don't tell Carmony their whole their whole premise is like 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.719 go see comedy at a yoga studio or like a 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.880 you know, and it's nice whatever. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:16.160 I think that's cool. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.120 I know, it's like free things in the city. You know, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.360 we talk about can you be broken date? Like I 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.960 don't know that seems cool or if you're a family, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.959 I don't know. I just like the idea of having 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.320 free actually good events. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.920 For yes, and then the city and then there's. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.880 Something like I think of LA as being a place 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.199 that floods, but New York I always think can handle 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:37.800 their rain. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.080 That's crazy. You've seen the videos of the subways kind of. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.000 Oh the subways, yes, yes, yes, yes, but like a 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.240 parking structure. I guess I've never seen like a flooded 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.000 parking garage. But you know, there's a there's a new 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:48.640 time for everything. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.120 Well, they took care. But what's cool too about Lincoln Center. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.240 You can go underground into the subway. You don't have 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.160 to leave or go outside like you You can go 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.600 right on to the one to the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.640 So that it was my stuff to go down to bed. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.400 Bath and beyond. What were you getting? Oh, I guess 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 everything home stuff. You know. 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.760 Before that was a good store. Wow, there's more variety 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.640 put out. Does Mariska Hart know these lines from Law 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.040 and Order? This was two months ago, so they went 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.400 on a big press thing obviously, and I'm an idiot. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.760 She gets emotional things. There's so much Marishka content in 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.319 the past two months. What the fuck? 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.320 What is going on? All of these are from two 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.480 months ago. She kind of has like a great publicist. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.560 I feel like because she's always sort of doing something 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.120 she's doing, like Fashion Awards with Christian Siriano. She's at 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.560 the Glamour Woman of the Year, like even when it's 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.200 not like Season twenty five premiering, even when it's like 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.200 past that or before that, she's just kind of always 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.959 but up at good stuff. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.120 Wait, you have to cut the video of her going 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.559 woo woo, like. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.199 You have to off to use. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.160 Yes, Oh my god, I'll find that she went the 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.160 sky opened. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.160 Up and it started raining. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.719 Okay, I had an SVU moment yesterday. I did videotape 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.800 at all so I might make it into a real 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.800 whatever we'll see because but I had an sv style moment. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:09.640 Wow. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.320 Well, so I wanted to get a little drunk last 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.440 night because I'm playing drunk and something I'm filming, and 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.040 I just so I like walked home video and taped 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.120 myself speaking and doing all the lines and like just 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.800 writ like saying my physicality out loud, like what to 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.160 do with my body. I just want to be as 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.880 prepared as possible because we actually to just talk to 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.920 another amazing guest actor and he was so inspiring and 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.560 he said, you have to be so prepared and it 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.720 got me like really amped up, and so then I 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.200 was too drunk and I didn't know where I was. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.400 I walk home from this comedy club every night, every night, 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:44.960 every night. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.360 But I was suddenly in like a street, and I 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.040 was like, you know what, just. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.920 Get a car, like you have nothing to prove. So 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.640 I'm standing. It is desolate. It's like two in the morning, 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.280 if not later, so it's like no one's out and about. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.440 I am not even on the curb. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.760 I'm in the middle of a street, like it's clearly 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:02.600 I called the car. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.280 But the car comes in like I think it's a 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:05.880 power move. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.280 I do, but he's like twenty he stops twenty feet 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.360 away from me, and so I'm looking at him because 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.360 it's like it's clearly me I'm waiting for a car, 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.040 but he won't move, and so I sigh and just 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.360 start walking towards him. And then he finally like comes 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.440 towards me. And when I get in the car, I 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:23.920 look at him and I go, damn. In my head, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.280 I goes, he looks familiar. I go, I feel like 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.400 I've been in this car before. This is weird, but I, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.160 you know, I just keep it moving. But then for 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.040 the drop off. He plays this game too, where he's 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.160 like halfway down the block from where I am, and 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.440 he goes here and it's like, I see you looking 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:38.920 at the map. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:39.960 I'm like, you're an it, you know. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.760 I go, no, please keep going like and then when 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:49.120 he stops, he looks back and goes, I'll see you again. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.840 What And it shivers up my spine. I'll see you again? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.480 Why would you see me again? So I get out, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.559 I immediate start videotaping myself and I walked to my bodega, 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.520 but he stays and follows me to the bodega and 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.880 then he's at the red light there. So then I 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.800 go to the bodega and I spend Well, now I'm 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.040 having a great time at the bodega. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:10.480 I got some. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.360 Spring cheese, I got a funion, I got some lollipop. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.400 You know, I was having like then. I was like, okay, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.480 I'll get snacks. So then I go check out and 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.840 I tell the guy. I go, hey, my uber driver 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.360 just told me I'll see you again. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.440 I didn't like it. It's creepy, right, and he smiles. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.560 He goes, yeah, maybe he's gonna memorize your address and stalk. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.840 You and I go, why would you say that, sir? Sir? 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.200 But I go, but that is exactly what I think 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.360 is gonna happen. And I go, so you're the witness, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.960 I go, remember me, hello, Like you see me right? 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.000 And so he shook hands. We introduced ourselves. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.320 I go, so if anyone goes missing, And then I 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.640 looked up at the camera. I'm like, we talked, I'm 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.120 in your neighborhood, bro, and he goes, yeah, because we 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:54.880 also talked. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.240 About like others, you know, before that. We had a 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:58.040 little small talk. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.520 So then I walked home and the car wasn't or anything, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.000 and maybe I was two SVU. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.800 But this is again bothered me. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.440 This is like sounds like the sequel to your joke 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.160 that you have where you're going for the hook up 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.160 and you're getting all the hair and the DNA under 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.720 the fingernails or whatever. This is the sequel you were 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.680 befriending about Dega owners so that he can't be like her. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.880 Oh yeah, I think I saw her the other night. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.680 You want him to be like, yes, she was scared. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.840 Check her Uber account. It's this guy. Like I reported it. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.400 I tipped and rated it fine. But then I said 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.800 inappropriate comment. And I know it's not actually inappropriate, but 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.680 they can reject me ever getting matched with him, you 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:39.200 know what I mean. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.560 So I just wrote he said it. It created me out, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.240 Get me out. It's also just weird. I think you 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.640 could have maybe ignored it. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.600 If you didn't have the weird daja voo feeling of 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.240 also having been in his car before. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.160 Yeah, because I'll. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.680 See you again, might be like, could just be like, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.680 all right, you know, New York is small. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.400 Maybe I'll pick you up again. I don't know, but 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.240 that is it's just it that made me. I didn't 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:04.320 want to go into my apartment. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.560 Yeah, I kept walking, so I was like, oh, and 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.920 I don't even use my address. I use like a 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.840 business around me too, Like I'm so smart. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.640 I never thought of that. That's so smart. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.720 Everybody you should use like the address of like two 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.240 doors down from you or whatever, so that no, if 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.360 you're like alone or like, you know, feel like somebody's Yeah, 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.560 I mean, I guess you can never know when you 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.320 put it into the uber. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.520 Oh my gosh. That's smart though. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.080 So it was so you know, and one of the 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.520 things we always talk about, and a lot a few 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.960 victims of crimes that we've covered talk about like just 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.800 follow your gut instinct, you know, So even if it's nothing, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:43.600 I'm like, I don't know. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.640 I just didn't like the way said it. Yeah, so great. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:52.160 Yeah, and it's like and because the the other stuff 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.960 didn't click to me. And then I was like, oh, 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.760 why why play these power games? 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:57.600 Yeah? 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.960 Of dropping me off? Not I'm like, this is a 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:07.639 annoying or annoying right, just overall annoying whatever in my 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.680 little New York moment. But I couldn't believe I got lost. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.160 That's truly the easiest walk of all time, so insane. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.639 But I started looking around. I was like, I truly 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.080 don't even know where I am. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.479 And then I put on the map and I was like, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.639 I gotta get out of here. But I also, you know, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.680 the thing I'm shooting is going to be overnight, so 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.840 I'm also trying to get my schedule shifted, yeah, because 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.680 I'm gonna working all night. Yeah, it's five pm to 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.240 five am. So I tried to go to bed at 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.280 five last night so I could, but then I woke 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:41.679 up at night. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.760 I mean, it's not helping. We'll see what happened immediately. Yeah, No, I. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:47.920 I had a friend who was like trying to train 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.040 her children for jet lag recently for a trip internationally, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:51.480 and I was. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.480 Like, does that work? Why do you train them? Wow? 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.440 Like you start putting them to bed. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.360 I think a little bit, you know, earlier every night 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.919 or something or later, I don't remember, but it was 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.920 like something she read about to try it to because 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.760 they were traveling from LA to Europe, and like, I 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.720 guess the time difference is wild, but I don't know. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.520 I feel like if you just get kids super tired 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.119 and put them to bed at the regular bedtime, then 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:13.720 they wake up. I get my kids on East Coast 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.399 time in two minutes, but that is only three hours, 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:15.960 so who knows. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.080 Oh, I did feel judge. I did judge a mom recently. 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.840 You can give your professional opinion. So it was like 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.680 a hot ass day. You know, it's been hot here 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:30.040 like nineties and high eighties, nineties, and this mom had 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.080 this baby out like for hours, you know, nod an umbrella, 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:34.480 but just. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.520 Like laying there and the baby was fine. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.440 But I was like, I don't know, do they have 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.800 to be on this rooftop pool when it's ninety Yeah? 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.639 But then I'm like if you want a baby into 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.719 the water at all, not that I noticed. You just 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:53.320 splayed out on like arms, arms above head, just splayed 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.439 out onto the thing. And then we were in the 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.879 elevator with her, and I was just like, I don't 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.800 I don't know. I just I guess I got it makes. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.080 Me nervous, Yeah, I guess I don't get that with 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.720 like yeah, and I mean I don't want to get 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.840 into it. But there was there was a bad thing 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.879 that just happened to a baby that was exposed to 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.440 too much heat recently. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.080 Right, But where was Yeah, I just saw that. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.600 We're in Arizona. In Arizona, I think, yeah, And it 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.040 was like a little six month old baby. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:20.439 I don't know. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.640 I've brought my babies to pools, but then I bring 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.040 them in the water, like I'm constantly bringing them in 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:25.640 the wow. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:26.640 So I don't know. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.280 That's why I was avoiding all the children in the pool. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.040 So I feel like I would have noticed this baby. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:32.879 But I don't know. 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.439 But a baby's the best in a pool because they 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.520 just sit there like a little blob. Like I have 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.120 so many pictures of like Rosie's first swim, and she's. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.240 Like, I haven't had the baby. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.280 But I remember going to a Palm Springs trip with 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.600 friends with a really small child and I heard someone 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:47.399 make a rude comment. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.720 I was like, who the fuck do you think you are? 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.600 They're a good tent. 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:53.960 And people kept being like, make sure you do this 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.199 and that, and I was like, oh my god, leave 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.760 us alone. They care about that. And now it's like 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.719 the opposite where I was like, put your baby inside, 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.520 just get her bed, get it. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.720 Splash a little water on the poor thing. Yeah, we're 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:07.399 hoping for it. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.639 But what's the age, Like, what's the age you can 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:11.720 heat up these babies? 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.280 Oh? I mean you can bring a baby in the water, like, 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:17.639 I don't really know. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.600 Probably after the little Oh god, someone's gonna call me 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:22.040 and tell me that. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.000 I'm well, maybe they. I'm just curious. When can you 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.320 judge and when you can you not? 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.800 I know for sure, I put Oscar in a pool 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.440 when he was like three months old, so I don't 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.960 really know. I don't really know if before then maybe, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.760 I don't know. There's also like vaccines that don't happen 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:39.760 until like three or four months. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.040 But I think that the pool is fine. I don't know. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:42.679 I don't know. 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:44.439 I think you can put your breath on either. I 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.680 felt rude. I was like, fucked, don't mom, shame, don't 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:50.680 mom shame. I'm like, you don't know, she needs a break. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.960 This is her only time that it's been hot all week. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.600 But then I was like, that baby's just cooking on that. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.840 It's that bed, like because I got I got burnt 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.520 that day. So it's like I don't know. Yeah, but like. 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.160 I'm actually picking up both of my kids early from 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.160 camp tomorrow to take them to DragCon. But I haven't 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.400 like told either of their camps that that's what they're doing. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.040 But Oscar won't stop talking about it. He's so excited. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.320 So I know he's gonna tell his like uppuy Montessori school, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.920 like I'm going to drag Con and they're gonna be like, what, 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.159 like wame out early? 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.879 Does he remember drag Con like from last year? Or 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.840 he's like, oh he does. He was mesmerized by the Teletubbies. 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.040 Do you remember there's a photo of me and you 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.439 and my kids and my friend Brent with the Teletubbies 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.200 and Oscar is staring across at the Teletubbies like he's 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.280 in a trance. I don't know if they're gonna be back. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.240 But also Pickle the drag Queen, he's very excited to 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.119 see her. He saw her read at a library event, 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.080 and so he's excited to see Pickle. Like this morning, 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:49.960 I it was my morning to sleep in. And I 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.320 heard him saying to his dad like. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.920 Is tonight is today? Draggon? Like he's really excited. What's 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.600 he gonna wear? Oh? You gotter? 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.760 Put him and maybe I put them in a little 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.400 tank top, you know, put them in a little tank 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:05.080 put Rosy. 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.040 In a little sparkle. We'll see. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.960 I did the craziest thing last year where food's already expensive, 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.359 and then for some reason, I got a lobster caesadilla. 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.040 And then I was like, did I just spend forty 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.320 two dollars on that? I was like, the craziest thing 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.080 I've ever done. I made a one the. 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.800 Trucks that dragon con are so expensive. And then you 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.119 were like, how can I make this more luxury? Like 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:25.359 it was so funny. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.320 I was like I don't even need this, Like why 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.720 am I doing this? I love just melted cheese. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.639 Oh my god, But I have no idea honestly, Like 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.360 I know, I know Shay's gonna be there. I'm gonna 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:36.960 try to grab Shy on her way out, but I 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:38.560 don't know who else is going to be there, so 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.879 we'll see. But I'm excited for by the time this 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.920 episode comes out, of course, Dragon will be long gone, 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.520 but time machine style, I'm excited for drag Con. 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.199 When I was in second grade, my sister and her 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.120 husband they were already dating, and they took me out 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:57.240 of school to go ice skating, and I told the teacher. 0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.199 When I came back the next day, she's like, are 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.320 you feeling better? And I went, I feel great. We 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.960 went ice skating, and she was pissed. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.960 I mean back when we were younger, I feel like 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.600 you were never allowed to do these like hooky days, 0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.240 and now they call it like, oh, a mental health 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.200 day or whatever, like she's been feeling bummed about something 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:15.879 that happened, like we're gonna take her ice skating, and 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.200 like those schools doesn't don't care. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.159 I had a babysitter who let me do that. 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.440 When I was like in third grade, a babysitter conspired 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.280 to get me out of school and was like, we'll 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.159 play hooky and she called the school and I remember 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:30.920 being in music class and being like, carry you have 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.320 to go to the front office, and I was like 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.760 it's happening, Like I felt like I was getting jail broken, 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:37.919 like it was insane. And then she like took me 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.400 for a day. It was like pretty magical. I think 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.320 she was a bad babysitter, though I think my mom 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.760 ended up firing her, but I was pretty obsessed. She 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:48.119 never did it with my brother or sister. 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.520 It was like just me, Yeah, you gotta miss school. 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.400 You gotta teach kids how Yeah, Casey, that's my big 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:55.360 parenting advice. 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.880 Let them miss school, take them ice skating. 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.440 Well, I mean famously, I'm letting Rosie starts school three 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:02.200 two weeks late. 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:04.880 I still remember that day. 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.399 It obviously was monument I remember what I was wearing 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.680 two ice skating and this is outdated, but I'm sure 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.600 my sister meant well. But I was wearing a shirt 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.840 that says love see no color, and it was like 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.520 flack and white. 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.960 Get that girl on the ring, and I wore a 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.119 little glove. I mean, it was like so magical, and 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:27.479 I was. 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:32.119 That was thirty years ago, so I'm seriously worth like 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.160 taking your kids out once in a while. 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:34.640 Oh my god. 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.119 So a group of our friends they went to a 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.120 six Flags. I was not invited. I'm pissed. I love 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.959 a love coaster. But all the rest of the girls 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:48.120 came prepared. And of course our friend who crazy glue 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.080 vampire teeth to her real teeth, she wore a wig. 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:56.359 She wore a fucking wig to six grags. Man. She 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:57.000 set me the. 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.399 Photo, and the photo is everyone smiling, laughing on a 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.240 roller coaster, and she is holding her wig down with 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.680 all her might ride two rollercoasters. 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.959 Sucked my phone out of my pocket. Your wig does 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.719 not stand a chance. Are you kidding me? Like? 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.199 Are you joking? Wait? You know what's funny? Back to 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:15.720 being taken out of school. 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.600 Another thing I was taken out of school for by 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.320 my Republican father was the ticker Tape parade. After Operation 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.800 Desert Storm ended and they and the heroes came home 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.960 and they did a parade in New York City. And 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.040 this circles back to this circles back to child abuse 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.919 via heat. It was like one hundred degrees in New 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.960 York City, papers falling from the sky. My dad did 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.640 not bring water for us. I thought it was gonna faint. 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.119 Like we were dying. The police set up a little 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.199 like barricade for us and like covered it with like 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.640 a sheet or like paper or something, and we've got 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.679 to sit under there so we could cool down watching 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:48.159 this parade. 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.600 So the authorities realize, oh, these children need help. 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.800 Yes, they were like this wild Republican man only gives 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.280 a shit about these heroes and not about his own children. 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.760 And we literally because I thought I was gonna throw up, 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.480 Like it's New York, it's a parade. Everything's like streets 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.400 are shut down. He like couldn't get us water. I 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.399 was dying. But then at the beginning, I was so 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.240 excited to get out of school until my dad almost 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.520 gave me heat stroke for you know, war glorifications. So 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.000 you know, that's life, all right. We gotta get started. 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.639 Casey gave us the twenty minute a while ago, but 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.640 you know, same old business. Go to a That's messed 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.960 Up live dot com for merch. We got tour dates 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.760 for Lisa on there. We're announcing that's messed up toward 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:31.280 dates very soon. Stay tuned, and then you know our 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.439 promo codes are up there. Also, you could leave us 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.879 a review whatever you guys feel like it's the summer 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:36.840 and live your lives. 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.520 But let's get started. A great episode coming up. 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:49.240 Okay, we are taking it back baby, Season two, episode nineteen. 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.800 This came out April two thousand and one, pre nine 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:52.240 to eleven. 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.920 If you were wondering, we love We love to place 0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.399 every episode in time visa the nine to eleven, and 0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:59.960 I do like it. This is a fave of mine 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.520 and I love this episode. I wanted to do it 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:02.120 for a long time. 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:03.800 I love this episode. 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.000 Twists and turns and just so many bad people. 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:08.800 It's good. 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.879 Okay, I'll just get into it, and then you know, 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.200 Parasite's so cool. But the movie Parasite also very good. Yes, yes, 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.679 so I think about it all the time. Actually, okay, 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:21.040 I will begin. 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:22.080 There is. 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.680 There's a man he's digging a hole and another man 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.679 is like, why are you digging so deep? It's an 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.640 above ground jacuzzi, And another dude is rolling a wheelbarrow 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.640 towards the hole and he's like, we need a good foundation, 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.640 mister Sawyer, And this mister Sawyer is just harping. 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.400 I don't like this. 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.119 Don't hit a gas mate, you know, not a fucking customer. 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.000 You want just like overbearing and annoying. It's like people 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.879 are professionals. Let them do their fucking job. So the 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.760 wheelbarrow guy is like, listen, we know what's up, exactly 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.760 what I just said, you know, relax, But he won't stop. 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.320 He's like, you better dig out these weeds too, or 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.800 they're gonna break through the concrete and it's gonna be 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.359 a mess. And he goes these old owners. They left 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.439 everything a mess. The worker's like, yeah, yeah, we'll clean it, 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.879 no extra charge. And the man walks away and the 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.120 guy in the hole is like, wow, wait, aren't those 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.720 hydranger bushes? And the guy's like yeah, that's well, we'll 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.520 do it for free. We're gonna make so much money 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.080 off these bushes. Do you know about this hydranger market? 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:21.680 I'm googling it right now. 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.840 I didn't know hydra like I love hydrangeas, they're my favorite. 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.520 I know that they're very popular on like Cape Cod 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.679 and stuff. I always think of hydrangeas like the hampt it, 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.080 like you know, like I do think it is kind 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.879 of like an upscale flower bush to have, But I 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.120 didn't realize it would be like there's a black market 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.880 for it where these gardeners are going to like go 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:42.480 sell it and. 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.040 Make a profit, but so weird. 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.040 Yeah, the guy knows that someone in hack and Sack, 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.200 he's got a hydranger guy in Hackensack. 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:57.120 Yeah, so but uh uh, forking the plan. There's a 0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.680 skull in the hole. So it turns right into a 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.400 crime scene Benson and Stabler and the guy now is 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.360 bitching like what the fuck I paid an inspector inside out, 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.560 I'm gonna sue this. I'm gonna sue that. You're all witnesses. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.480 And Benson goes, please leave, like get the fuck out 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.200 of here, and the wife goes. 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.360 This is our new home. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.400 And the man now is calming her down and it's 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.160 like you, you know you were, You're causing the stress her. 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.200 So then the science cop is on the scene and 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:31.360 it's Lance Reddick assistant Emmy Taylor. Oh, such a talent, yes, 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.800 and he thinks from the skull it's a white person 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.000 under thirty female, no obvious cause of death, but he's 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.040 gonna work on it. Then Stabler's like, okay, bro, but like, 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.240 how do we get sexual abuse from a bunch of bones? 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.840 They say bones so many times in such funny ways. 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:54.840 Here it's like it's a it's a campy like comedy, honestly. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.640 He tells them to go to the evidence trey and 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.480 they walk on over and there's a studded collar and 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.120 a leash that was also buried with the woman, and 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:08.200 Stablers says, I guess she was somebody's pet. Okay, Yeah, 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.160 Season two was a lot of puns. That leads us 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.280 right into the credits and we're back at the crime scene. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.800 In Benson's talking to a man neighbor. He says, the 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:20.080 previous owners put in the hydranges, the Stanton's Brad and Abby, 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.120 and they fought all the goddamn time, from the moment 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.719 they moved in until they moved out. Abby moved out 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.280 around four years ago, and he's like, it was loud, 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.560 but I never saw violence. And even though they were 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.680 broken up, she would swing by after a year and 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.440 she would pound on the door and he would give 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.040 her cash around like three am. But one night he 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.200 didn't answer and she started screaming, I'm going to report 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.840 you to the medical board for fucking your patients. He's 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.080 a surgeon. Oh my god, we didn't even talk about 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.280 your mom. 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:54.840 Oh yeah, retired retired baby Yeah, I can't believe it. 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.760 I know she's not gonna really I mean, she's gonna 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.160 like keep doing like projects for a while, but she's 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:01.200 not seeing patients anymore. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.320 And it's like really crazy. 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.040 But we're having a little party for her when we 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.600 go back in August, to a little just like small 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.480 family party to be like congrats. 0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.240 You know, what are projects that doctors do? 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.880 Like my mom's always like changing their emerging their electronic 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.720 medical records like server like whoever's like doing their medical 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.000 records and stuff like that. And I don't know, she's 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.040 got other shit going on, I think there. But she 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.200 used to have like she had like a pretty she 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.360 had like ideas where she wanted to like do sort 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.120 of like freelance counseling for eating disorders. She's like very 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.880 interested in that, and so she might do go into 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.320 something like that, you know, maybe like going to schools 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.800 or helping or like helping other doctors that don't specialize 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:46.120 in that. 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.880 You know. Wow, passionate, but good photos. It was fun 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:56.080 seeing her young. Yeah, different phases too, Yeah. And funny outfits. 0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.440 How about her smoking a cigarette with the kitten? Me 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:01.160 and my outfit? 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.880 Your outfit was honestly, it's it's another big it's a 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:06.920 big business reference. 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.560 It's a big business outfit. And I wrote a response 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.440 to our friend in the comments. But that was also 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.480 one of my flying outfits. We had to like dress 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.440 up for flights, so that I recall that being one 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.920 of my flying outfits. It's like I'm gonna put on 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.120 this fancy shirts, get on the plane. So fucking funny, 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.040 all right. 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.360 So this guy's a surgeon and he says that one time, 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.080 you know, the doors burst open and that Abby got 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.960 the crap beaten out of her, and Stabler's like, you 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:32.560 just said that there was no violence, and he goes, well, 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.120 Brad didn't hit her, Pam hit her, the new wife 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.680 threw punches, and he never saw Abby again. So we're 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.800 at work and bells are is showing Craigan photos of 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.600 the gold found with the bones as well, and Benson 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.040 runs on in and reports that she has been buried 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.360 they believe three years, and Stablers fills them in on 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.560 Brad and Abby, and Craigan is like, oh, go talk 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.000 to Brad and his new wife and also go check 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.680 in on Abby and find her, you know, one if 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.160 the bones are her. So they go talk to a 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.280 lady that seems like she owns a lot of units, 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.280 and they ask her if any of her tenants went 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.120 missing late ninety seven to early ninety nine. 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:08.880 She goes, yeah, they. 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.840 Go missing when they forget to pay their rent for 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:15.560 three months. And it's like, okay, they want the list 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.080 of all those people and the rental applications, and she's 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.200 being super sarcastic. She goes, Oh, yeah, we have an 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.560 intense screening process because you know, so many high class 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.840 people are desperate to move here. So it's like, I 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.160 love her. A corkboard is filled with tons of papers. 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.720 Bellser wants files. She'll be and. 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.320 Really quickly like where are we in New York where 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.240 these people are buying a house? But then right behind 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.959 them is like a full apartment building that overlooks the backyard. 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:45.560 Do you know what I mean? 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.400 Like what area like houses are usually like in Queens 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.040 or like party. 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.320 I think this is Queens. Oh you think, oh this 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:57.040 is but their Manhattan SVU. I guess maybe Shellse. I'm 0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.120 trying to think we're like big apartments that no one 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.800 want to like and. 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.520 Then like a house with a yard, like I don't know. 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.040 I was confused about the low. 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.040 I doesn't have houses. 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:12.239 I don't Yeah, yeah, whatever, It's just like it was 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.360 just I was just wondering about it. 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.920 I was like, you know what, maybe it's way uptown. Yeah, 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.600 it could be a super uptown. 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.239 That's true too, mm hmmm. 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.399 Yeah, because I don't go there enough, so that might 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.960 be the place, because I can't see anywhere that I 0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:34.640 would like that I know. So she opens a messy 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.000 drawer and says, have at it, and it's a mess. 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.600 So now we jump from Munch and Finn to Benson 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.560 and Stabler, who's talking to Pam the new wife. She's like, ah, 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.040 Brad was married to that blood sucking leech for five years. 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.160 And they're like, okay, but why did you attack her? 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.880 And she turns around giving a ton of sass. She 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.879 accused Brad of sleeping with his patients. She then calls 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.960 her a bottom feeding, mainlining junkie. Then she gives some 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.440 scoop that they were actually friends and went to nursing 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.080 school together, and Sailor's like, okay, well when they split 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.279 and she goes ninety seven done done. He said that 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.799 her husband was super generous with her, but three years 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.160 ago she put her foot down to cut her off, 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.600 and she hasn't heard from her since. And then she 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.240 finally asks, Okay, what's going on with her? What trouble 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.000 is she in now? And Benson says, a woman's remains 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.440 were found buried under the hydrate just behind your former brownstone. 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.399 She looks down and says, oh my god. They let 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.560 her know the remains have been there for three years. 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.319 Quiet tention. So then they ask where Brad is right now, 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.279 and she's like, he's working at the hospital and he's 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.319 super busy, and Brad couldn't kill anybody, not even that 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:40.600 horrible bitch. 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.680 I love like on this show, people are always willing 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.759 to still call someone a bitch when she could be. 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.719 A dead body that was just found in your backyard. 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.120 They go talk to him outside the hospital. He's like, 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.640 I didn't kill her. She was killing herself with her habit. 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.480 They're like, okay, but then you married her and he's like, yeah, 0:35:58.520 --> 0:35:59.920 well I loved her and back then it was just 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.480 asked for anxiety, but then she started stealing other pills 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.520 and then you know, the hospital fired her. They're like, damn, 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.640 that must have been embarrassing. He's like, no, for sure, 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:13.760 and I felt powerful a powerless. He goes, yeah, whatever, 0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.240 he was powerlessness what. I can't talk about it anymore. 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.359 But he's not happy about it and he couldn't help her. 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.400 So he was. 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:22.600 And if you were wondering who this man is, he 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.879 was Carrie Bradshaw's editor at the newspaper. So I don't 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.439 know if you remember the episode where like she doesn't 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.480 have anything to write and she's like, I don't know, 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:30.399 do I write about socks? 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.319 I have nothing to write. My editor keeps calling me. 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.239 He's like mad at me. 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.280 And then Charlotte and Carrie as sitting at a table 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.200 and the guy that walks by, they say if they 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:40.080 want to fuck him or not? 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.680 Do you remember this? And then yeah, this guy works. Yeah, 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:44.120 this guy like works a ton. 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.759 He's like, I think he's actually been on a bunch 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:47.839 of svus as well. 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.320 He's been on three svus. 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:53.600 Matt cerveto Yeah yeah, because then he and then Charlotte goes, eh, 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.800 I would never fuck that man, and it's the editor 0:36:55.920 --> 0:37:00.520 going Carrie, Hello. That's when he tells her that she's 0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.320 gonna have a book deal. So that's him, you know. Obviously, 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.200 if there's a sex in the city face. I'm gonna 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.640 talk about it. Yeah, yeah, but he has to run 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.000 and he doesn't give any info and they taunt him, 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.480 and then his wife comes out too, and he's like, 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:17.239 what the fuck get lost you guys. She snaps and goes, 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.839 stop wasting our time, runs off. He then gives them 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.800 a piece of paper and says, please don't tell Pam. 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.840 So they go to Mercy Aid's Hospice and it's a 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.840 woman laying tube, tubed up fully and it's abby. She 0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:36.000 has AIDS related dementia and yeah, and he pays the 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.800 bills and he keeps the roses fresh, always fresh roses. 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.239 He dropped her off and she has not had a 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.680 visitor since. It's really sad. 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:44.440 Wow. 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:49.680 The lady stands in front of the fresh roses and 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.680 then behind her is a machine and it looks so 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.680 old timey. It looks like the tiniest little delta screen 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.680 I've ever seen in my life, and it looks like 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:02.960 an eighties weird science machine. It is two thousand and one, 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.520 like the machines shouldn't look like that. But she's like, 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.760 it's sad, you know, she doesn't have much time left. 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.239 So they pieced out and They're like, well, now what 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:17.160 and Stabler says, back to the bones. So we're back 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.840 with Emmy Lance Reddick and he says, so strangulation and 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.040 pressure freight fractures to the neck. Benson goes, oh, so 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.000 senam and he goes, well, I doubt it because her 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.719 right hand is broken as well. She was five four, 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.120 and he thinks Eastern European and Benson's flabbergasted. 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.160 You got all that from the bones? 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:36.720 Is just like when they came up with the idea 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.239 of the TV show Bones, like probably this episode. They 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.160 were like, what if there was a show where it 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:42.680 was just bones, you know? 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:48.240 Okay? So then the teeth. 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.560 So he found traces of arsenic in the teeth and 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.520 that is what back in the day old Russian dental 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.200 practice to kill a nerve, and it spread through the 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.520 Eastern block. So Staylor goes, well, this is great, we 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.840 have the dental records or they could be in the 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.439 former Soviet Union. But they go to another man and 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.400 he has an eighties style computer as well. He's a 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.320 forensic anthropologist, and he entered the dimensions of the skull 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.800 and some other information into the New York Police Department 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:20.960 forensic system. Dimensional imaging program and it says that she's 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.880 around thirty and they're layering these pieces and a face appears, 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.720 and he says it's a reasonable approximation. So they print 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.920 it out and Craigan's looking at the picture and goes, okay, 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.560 so behind the iron curtain kind of broad and you know, 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:38.200 he like fucking loves Brighton beach ladies. He loves the rush, 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.160 he sure does. He loves Russian sex workers, whether you 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.440 guys want to admit it or not. But he's like, okay, 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.200 So we narrowed it down to a couple hundred thousand, 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.000 and munch Infen are going through ten of information from 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:53.759 the building company, but again not really good notes so 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.480 much so far as found sixteen and counting names that 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.640 sound Eastern Bloc like, and Cragan's like, track them all down, 0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.680 let's get to work. Let's go. So it's phone call time. 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.680 It's a montage, lots of hang ups. Everyone hates cops, 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.919 people don't speak English, they're scared of deportation. But pool 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.080 together there's like a dozen or so unaccounted people. So 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.200 they're going to cross reference these people with missing persons, 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.240 see and see what goes down. Manila folders everywhere, and 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.280 I mean I when my mom would bring a Manila 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.120 folder home from work, I would fucking lose it. I 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:30.520 was so excited. I would go down and play office 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.799 in a heartbeat, like I just I. 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.600 Need to have the paper in here. Yeah, let me 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:36.840 get my files together. 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.719 So they if they found a picture that's pretty damn 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.359 close to the fake face we have, and the name 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.600 is Eva Perulis, or they say Ava, but that's like 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.759 a weirder name for me to say. I don't like 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:54.640 yeahct I've never Yeah, Ava is not really that must 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.799 be like the Romanian translation or pronunciation. 0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:59.520 Yeah, all right, I'll do it. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.960 So it's Ava Perulis and she was reported missing April 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.880 nineteen ninety eight. She rented an apartment behind the crime scene. 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:10.920 Hello in February nineteen ninety eight and gone by that 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.680 April and there's a young sassy Brooklyn go tea man 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:16.880 and they're like, it's kind of he's like Stucky before Stucky. 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.160 He has an attitude and accident. He's like, well, the 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.879 case sid and go far And basically the detective who 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.960 had the case retired to Arizona last year. And to me, 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.600 I'm like we're his retirement plans in the file, like 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.560 how do you look to know what the stude's up to. 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.000 So then we have to find out who reported her missing. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.920 It's a guy in Queen's George Burton, and so they 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.080 had to rego park and it's a kid in the 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.239 front of a really nice house and she's like, I 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.719 don't talk to strangers. Get lost and they go work ops. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.840 She goes, show me your badges and they get a 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:48.759 kick out of her. They love how smart she is 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.840 and they give her a lot of positive affirmations and 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.880 I like, paused to write stuff down and the detectives 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.200 did look like a still from a nineties Christmas movie. 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.080 They were smiling at her light fault where I don't know, 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.840 it just they're both so attractive. It just really was 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.640 such a Christmas movie moment to me. So then out 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.520 comes a man and it's the child's dad and he 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.520 sends Julia the child inside. They say hey, and he's like, 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.839 oh no, what Benson says, you reported your sister in law, 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.279 Ava Perula is missing, and he's like, damn, you found her. 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.319 And they give the guy the pick and says, we 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.440 might have and he's confused and is like, huh, I 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.759 actually gave this picture to the police. What happened to her? 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.720 And in runs a woman that looks just like Ava. Hello, 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.839 we have twins done done. But they're stunned and like 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.200 she's an alien, like they have never seen a twin 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.000 in their fucking life. And so now we're inside and 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.440 she gives the rundown and her twin and. 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.160 And I just say really quickly too. This woman that 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:53.560 plays her is named Millie Avatall, who is actually a 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:58.920 Israeli actress, and she's in the pilot of SVU. 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:00.319 She's in pay Back. 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.640 She is the woman who chops off the guy from 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.319 but like Bosnia or whatever, like you know, there's like 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.640 a Bosnia hate crime thing that happens and they chop 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.480 off the cap driver stick. Then they have her back 0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.720 the next season to play these twins in a pretty 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.640 big episode. Then she doesn't come back till season fourteen. 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.319 She's in Manhattan Vigil. We covered that episode. She's the 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.920 mom oh my god, Hamish link later when the little 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:27.880 boy goes missing and they're like divorced, it's like, how 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:28.360 would you do that? 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:29.239 They're fighting all the. 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.920 Time, and then she's in Depravity Standard, which is the 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:39.120 second episode of that. Yeah what the fuck? Yeah cool? Yeah, 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:42.080 so we try to get her. She would not respond. 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.879 I wanted to talk to her about playing twins. I mean, 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:45.560 not that she. 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.719 Really had to play, but yeah, yeah, I was in 0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.040 parent trap hyjinks, you know, yeah, one of. 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.960 They must love her for season one and season. 0:43:53.680 --> 0:44:00.680 Two it's like, but yeah, the detectives are stunned, and 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.840 so now you know, we're inside and she's given the rundown, 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.120 so her twin in her. They came to the US 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.400 five years ago from Romania. She starts to cry and 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.160 the husband holds her hand. She continues that she was 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.520 older by six minutes and always bossing her around, and 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.239 Benson is at this moment she's in a pixie grow 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:23.399 out phase, but it's also like straightened peace highlights very 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:27.440 of this era. And she says, well, who could have 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:28.280 killed your sister? 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:29.160 Anyone? 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.440 And she goes, no, no one want to, like, I 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.360 cleant think of anyone that would want to kill my sister. 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.400 And then Stabler wants to connect, so he brings up 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.759 his twins and says, you know, my twins are inseparable. 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.800 You must have been close, and then the husband interjects, 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.239 and he goes, Ava and my wife couldn't have been 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.600 more different, and that Ava was wild and played by 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.960 her own rules. And then the girly cuts in and says, listen, 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.720 she went from one rich man to the next until 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.279 she finally met the wrong one, and she gets really 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.719 upset and runs off. And then mister Burton calls for 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:02.160 his wife, you know, like Irena, so they have time 0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:05.680 with him. He says, they went through hell getting here, 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.080 orphanage's abuse, so when they finally came here, all they 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.800 had was each other. But they did have a falling out. 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.360 Ava said she could never settle for a life like 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.200 this and Irena said stop dreaming and grow up. And 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.160 that was that, and they never saw each other again. 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.160 It seems like kind of a chow fight to never 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.520 speak again. And that was a little longer than three 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.600 years ago, right, like, yeah, I don't want to live 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.359 in the suburbs and have a family. Well, you gotta 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.719 grow up. I'm never speaking to you again forever. Yeah, right, 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.480 So she was supposed to show up to their daughter's 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.319 first birthday party and Ava was supposed to be there, 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.520 and that was IRENA's last straw and she's like, fuck 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.440 this bitch. So Stabler asks what made him think that 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.560 she was missing, and he's like, well, when she went 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.160 to go patch things up, her apartment was fully empty 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.479 and Ava was gone. Irena says she must have run 0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.000 off with another man, but he had a bad fear 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.959 and so he did call the police. And he only 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.080 knows the name of one of her old boyfriend's, Matt. 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.640 So they go visit Matt Sloan and he is, you know, 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.040 owns his own business. They had to Sloan Importers, and 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.000 he's a douche. So he's standing face to face with Benson, 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.360 trying to intimidate her with his gross grin, and he 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.359 says she was sexy and adventurous. And they ask if they, 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.760 you know, did some s and m bond Ande caking stuff. 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.399 He says that he's not really into that, but they 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.279 were only together for four months. Benson asks if he 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.600 loved her, and he says it was a business arrangement. 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.799 She was smart and charming and multi lingual, and you know, 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.520 she helped me develop business contacts in Eastern Europe and 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.480 the sex was great. And they asked what she got 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:46.279 in return, and he says expensive jewelry. Only jewelry, full tantrum, 0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.080 Like he said, if it wasn't jewels, she would flip 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:49.919 out and want him. 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.200 She threw a one thousand dollars bottle of perfume in 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.439 his face. What's this perfew? Yeah? 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.320 And after that, I just I want to like jewelry 0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.640 that much, and so apa and after that he ended it. 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.920 So they're like, well, did you ever see her again? 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.720 And he goes, yes, at the reception of some un 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.360 event and she left with a Romanian deputy chief of mission. 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:12.600 All right. 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.560 So back at the office, Craigan is shocked. He goes, 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.360 oh my god, diplomats are involved. Who is this woman? 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.879 He was also, you know, an importer, and so she's 0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.920 definitely a player. So then Finn and Munch run in 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.920 fast with some news. They check Sloan's records and he 0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.080 got picked up during an undercover weisting one count of 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.919 soliciting prostitution and he was found with like a dog 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:36.120 collar and everything. 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.240 So liar alert, liar alert. 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:43.120 Okay, but his passport shows he was out of the 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.360 country when Ava was reported missing, so that's a bust. 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.440 Craigan goes, Okay, let's see how ava got into the country, 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.160 and then also, let's check with her former landlady if 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.879 she has anything more to tell us. Craigan then tells 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.760 Benson and Stabler to go talk to the diplomat and yes, 0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:01.360 diplomats have immunity from a but not from talking. So 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.160 let's play nice and maybe we'll get some scoop. This 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.960 motherfucker has thick ass glasses in an accent. He does 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.080 kind of resemble my friend's dad, and that's upsetting for 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.000 everyone involved. So he said that she would, well, all 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.560 this guy's just as glasses are so thick, and so 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:19.200 are my friend's dad, Like just such thick glasses where 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:20.880 your eyeballs look so giant. 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:26.280 It's so so you know, coke bottles. Yeah, yeah. 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.680 He said that she was a mix of greed and innocence, 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.239 which is common for girls from the countryside. He says 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.040 they were not romantically involved, and he giggles at the idea. 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.239 He just needed like a side woman at events who 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.000 can speak the language, and she was down and you know, 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.360 she got to meet really important men at these parties. 0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.480 Stabler blurts out any of them wanted her dead? And 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:52.440 he's like, no, I doubt that then he changes the 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.200 subject and starts talking about the orchids in his office, 0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.480 and you know, you're a whole speech. 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.000 Him and the mushroom man should get together. 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:04.120 Yeah, the orchid took years of cultivation, and he says 0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.920 it's a hybrid I developed. Benson goes, yeah, beautiful. He 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.839 then says, do you know the orchid is also a parasite. 0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:15.560 It devours the host plant while it blooms magnificently, and 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.000 Saybler's like, are you calling her a parasite? He goes, 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.400 oh no, wait, no, no, no, we had a very mutually 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.920 beneficial relationship. And then they asked the big question, how 0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.520 did she get into the country And he's like, I 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.600 don't know. You know, our agency does deals with thousands 0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.720 upon thousands of applications, like there's no way to tell 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.799 how people came, Like we never really chatted about it. 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:38.719 So we get munch right now and he's in a 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.880 hasidic hat and fins in a leather jacket. So classic, 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.000 we're back with the sassy landlady and she's run down. 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:46.160 She's too busy for this. 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:49.200 She says, Avo walked around here like she was the 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:53.760 Zorina of thirteenth street, and should I name my special 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:54.640 that hold on. 0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.920 This arena of thirteenth Street is a great idea. 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.480 So she takes them to the apartment and goes this 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.040 was hers. She knocks and calls out for mister Sanchez, 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.680 but then lets herself look into the old apartment. She 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.640 said she had one regular visitor. He was always dressed 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.200 to kill a sugar daddy, and he would park his 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:18.520 Mercedes by the fire hydrant every time, and he looked important. 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:22.440 But specifics don't concern her, and they want more info, 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.600 and she's like, listen, the apartment came furnished. 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.040 She showed up in one suitcase. 0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.279 She was two months behind in rent, and then all 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.960 of a sudden, she goes, wait, since she was dead, 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.080 shouldn't the city reimburse me for that? 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.919 It's like, you fucking bitch. I hate these I hate 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:38.760 these money grubbing horrors. 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:43.239 This happens like in the meat episode. You know, they 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.400 want the cell phone, Like, I hate these people that want. 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:47.240 Shut off dead people. 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:47.759 Yeah. 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.080 Yeah, So Finn tell that that's just the category of 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:55.040 people I don't like. But Finn tells her to call 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.839 her council person, and then they go to the window. 0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:00.440 They go wow room with a view, and then Finn 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.440 says of her own grave. So across the way from 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.880 this apartment is a view of that yard. So now 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.600 it's a coffee break sex in the city style, like 0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:14.320 they really are outside, just coffee cups near a statue. 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.480 They're mingling, they're working, and Munch finds out that she 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.560 came here in nineteen ninety six on a finance finance 0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.759 fiance visa. You know, I always say I'm the Liah 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:28.640 Michelle of this podcast, and it is really really coming 0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.640 through right now. So as a fiance visa, and she 0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.319 married a man named Paul Amiss whatever I don't, I 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.120 fucking hate him. 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:36.839 You'll know why. 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.959 So the addresses on Long Island and they go out there. 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:42.520 So they met on euro Match, which is a male 0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.840 order bride situation. Munch says, you know, I should have 0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:50.080 tried that instead of love, because then I could pay 0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:53.879 much less, you know, out of my paycheck for alimony. 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.440 Which is probably literally seventy five percent of his check. 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.920 By how much how many X is munchaz. 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:00.880 He's spends no money. 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.239 The rest is just like his bar fund that he 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.759 wants to open his money just in case he needs 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.920 to bail some out of prison, and he buys these 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.480 Goren hats, you know what I mean, And that's that. 0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:15.759 So Munch and Finn and they go to the they 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.399 go to the matchmaker and Stabler is gonna go take 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.000 the groom. So there's this angry man at a pool 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.920 table the groom. He goes, yeah, I spent fifty k 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.080 to bring her here. She'd be making fifty dollars a 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:29.080 month where she comes from. And Benson interps and goes, yeah, 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:30.880 all she had to do is clean, cook, and have 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.040 sex on demand. He goes, yeah, that's what being a 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.960 wife is. And so then he says he returned her 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.680 after the ninety day trial period. And he has a ponytail, 0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.279 there's a goatee, there's a chain, there's a shirt, it's 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.400 very unbuttoned, and he's standing in front of a wall 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.640 of pool cues. And so he says that they got 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.239 the marriage annulled and he got his money back, and 0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:53.120 he goes, now, this is my wife. 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.440 And in walks a quiet woman named Meiling. 0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:58.680 She's very young, and she offers right away to get 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:01.920 them something to drink, and they're like, no, we're not staying. 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.920 He kisses this person, you know, his wife's forehead. 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:06.640 You know, I got I want to get her out 0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.400 of there, and he sends her off back into the 0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.880 kitchen and Stabler finally goes, what made your return, Ava, 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.240 And he says, because I didn't pay all that money 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.560 for her run around with some dentist. So now we 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.000 go talk to the dentist and you know, he calls 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.799 Ava exotic, pretty smart, the whole package. 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:25.160 He's not hot. 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.920 And Stabler asks if he minded that she was married, 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:31.480 and he goes, yeah, whatever, fuck that guy. She was 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.520 getting beat every night and he hit her once so 0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.520 hard that he had to put five caps in her mouth. 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:39.400 The marriage was over. He says. 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:41.880 They met at a party and someone told her that 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:45.000 I was, you know, a very known dentist to the stars, 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.879 and so she was all over me. And even though 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.680 she was there with her husband, like, she did not 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.680 give a fuck. So, okay, you know what ended it? 0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:53.640 He says. 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:56.240 She lied, She said she was a student, and cousins 0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.239 brought her over. But he hired a private investigator, and 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:02.439 Benson says, wow, sounds like true love. But I would 0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.600 do this. I don't trust anyone. I would hire a 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:11.799 private investigator for anyone you watch out. So you see 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:17.439 someone across your street, snap and phocus, and he's like, look, 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.640 I have a very lucrative practice. I got to take precautions. 0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.759 So once he found out that she was a male 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:26.080 order bride, he goes, you know, aka a gold digger. 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.200 He had to be out. Sabler just says, we need 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.239 her dental records. He goes, yeah, for sure, I'll get 0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.239 it together right away. No, you know, no hesitation. So 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.080 we go to euro match and this lady's in a 0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.279 teal silk shirt blazer and she's walking and talking with 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.200 Munch and Stabler probably munch infin and I fucked it 0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:47.320 up or maybe it's a mismatch day. But I'm confused 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.719 by what I just wrote here. So she says that 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.200 because I feel early seasons they were very much that's 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:53.560 your partner, and that's your partner. 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:55.600 You know, there's no fucking around. 0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:59.440 So she says that she matches girls with traditional values, 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:05.160 men who want wives instead of partners, so much hates it. 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:06.000 He's a feminist. 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.440 He's like, oh, a maid and made cooking and sex 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:12.320 on demand, And she goes, ugh, you make it sound 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:13.239 so tawdry. 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:14.239 What does that mean? 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:19.799 Kara Tawdrey is like, you know, like classless and like 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.840 bass low base bullshit. 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.239 You know, I think I already mentioned this because you know, 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.520 I'm in my oc rewatch era. But they call each 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:32.279 other classless all the time, and it's like you're. 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:34.839 All trash, Yeah, you're all. 0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.280 No One watching this is like, look at these classy women. 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.759 You are the poorest of the of all the housewives 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:42.800 except for Vicky. 0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:43.839 She is successful. 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.759 Okay, she says, you make it sound so tawdry. I 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.880 already said that. Then she brings the divorce rate among 0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.359 She goes, our couples have half the divorce rate of 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:57.040 the regular population, and Finn goes, okay, well, to get visas, 0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.160 they have to prove that they met before coming here, 0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:03.000 and she goes, yeah, we send the clients to Estonia, Romania, Latvia, 0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.520 Russia for two weeks and they meet eight girls a day. 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.000 And then when they find the one they want to. 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:10.799 Marry, we take photos, we do all the paperwork, and 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.959 we send all of it to I INS and it's satisfaction. 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:18.279 Ninety days are your money back? So she asks if 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:22.000 Munch is interested. He goes too easy without abject suffering. 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.239 I wouldn't know what to do with myself. I love him, 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:29.520 I love him. So then Finn asks, okay, well if 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:32.080 they divorce, they can only stay for two more years. 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.080 So then what happens, and she says, well, usually the 0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:39.200 girl's deported unless she left because her husband abused her. 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.320 Then you know, I ins Grant's exceptions, but it rarely 0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:47.239 happens because they do intense background checks. And they go, well, no, 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.560 you're lucky Ava actually didn't sue you because you you know, 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.439 this hand picked hubby was a wife beater. She says, 0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.600 if we knew that, we would have intervened and sent 0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:58.960 her to live with her sister, Irena. Munch goes, oh, 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:02.480 you know, but Irena, Yeah, they came over together. Fortunately 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:06.520 IRENA's marriage is a match made in heaven. And so 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.040 now we're with Irena, who's cooking, and Benson and Stable 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.799 are like, what the fuck? Why didn't you tell us? 0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:13.840 She's like, I'm afraid. You know, her husband hit me 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:16.240 once when I went to see her. So this motherfucker, 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:18.600 like he looked like a douche. And this is maybe, 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.480 like I don't know, I wasn't like this wife beater, 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:28.040 violent man, yeah, though he doesn't respect women, but this 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:28.560 one was. 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.960 But yeah, go tea ponytail chain. I don't know why. 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:34.000 I was surprised that. 0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:37.640 He was like this abuser and abusing the cistern all 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.480 of that, but you know, abusers look like everyone. 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:44.320 Well, I'm also wondering if it's true or if it's 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:47.400 because what we come to later. Let's get back to it, Okay, 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.640 so flog it for follow up, as my friend Lizzy 0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.840 always says, flag that for follow up. 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:55.040 And yeah, like if he did hit her and the cistern, everyone, like, 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:56.760 I feel bad for this new wife, even if he 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:58.040 doesn't hit her, I feel bad for her. 0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.600 Right well, she's not in a great situation no matter what. 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:03.000 Yeah, yeah, like I feel like these SV detectives should 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:04.880 go back and help her, like that is their job, 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.480 but they like she also looked very young. I don't know. 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:13.560 It's all very upsetting. So she says he got mad 0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.439 because Irena told Ava to leave him, because he beat 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:18.680 the shit out of her and he even came close 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.000 to killing her once. And so now they bring in 0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:26.160 pony Boy into the cement room bars and Stabler has 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.400 the husband's file in his hand and he's like, wow, 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.400 a civil sexual harassment suit filed by a former employee. 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:34.840 And then he passes the folder to Benson, who keeps 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:38.160 reading this, you know, all his shit out restraining orders 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.760 filed by your first and second wives. 0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.040 So he is bad. 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:46.640 So he says, I didn't kill Ava, and she closes 0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:47.919 the folder and stares at him. 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.920 You forced her to have sex with you. That's called rape. 0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.560 You pulled out fistfuls of her hair and knocked her 0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:56.200 teeth out. That's a salt, he says, prove it. And 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.360 they're like, lol, you think we would bring you all 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.400 the way down here if we couldn't. Craigan knot and 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:04.240 it's like you would you break the law all the time. 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.360 But Craigan knocks Benson and Stabler go meet him in 0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:09.280 the spy hallway. Benson is like, damn, this is a 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.600 game of clue. A diplomat, a dentist, an importer, and 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.520 now this loser my favorite line, Like, I just think 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:18.240 that's such a funny line. So then they leave pony 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.080 Boy and we never find out what happens to him, 0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.720 but we hope that his you know, he goes to jail. 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.520 So they go to Lance Reddick and He's straight up 0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.840 is like, these teeth do not belong to Ava. 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.640 Perulas, like the the files, the teeth. 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.920 Files from the dentist, and so Benson and Stabler are like, 0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.360 oh fuck, maybe the dentist made a mistake or and 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.360 he cuts them off. He goes, no, no, no, no, the 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.840 dental records didn't match, but everything else does. Son of 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:48.320 a bitch, Irena is Ava. So we jumped to so 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:51.520 many conclusions though. Cabin's like, okay, well I need proof 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:52.720 that she killed Irena. 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:56.120 It's like, why are we jumping to this? 0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:58.920 Like these women that have tried and struggled to get 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.280 into this country through all of these hardships to then 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:02.800 turn and. 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:04.280 Kill on each other. Like what? 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.840 So they're like, we have dental records and the skull 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:10.280 is a match. Kaba goes, okay, no, we need evidence 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.640 that Ava murdered her sister, and they're like, well the 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:16.240 apartment overlooked the grave and it's like circumstantial, you guys, 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.400 what don't you understand She needs a motive, she needs 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:20.280 physical evidence. 1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:21.400 Get to fucking work. 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:23.880 Craigan suggests, well, she didn't want to go back to 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.600 Romania with her marriage and alls, so Cragan's like, yeah, 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.080 but she also, you know, she didn't want to go 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.840 to Romania and her marriage was annulled. And they keep 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:33.800 like chatting, and Cabot has to talk to them like 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:38.600 they're fit like children. I need physical evidence linking them. 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.640 So they're like, come on, we've done a lot more 1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:46.280 with less chief size, and goes, fine, search the house. 1:00:46.760 --> 1:00:49.280 So they approach the house, knock, knock, knock. They opened 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:51.400 the door and shit is thrown around. It's a mess 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:55.000 in there. They take out their guns. A suitcase is 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:57.560 half packed on the bed like a train ran through it, 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:00.960 Munch says, and then they're open safes. Stuff is everywhere, 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.160 and Stabler goes, damn, she took all the money she could. 1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:06.320 There is a note I'm sorry. I do love you, George. 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:09.040 I never meant to hurt you or Julia or Irena. 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:11.800 So they got to talk to the husband aka you 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:13.240 know this brother in law, and so they go to 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.040 him and he's like, you guys are crazy. My wife 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.320 is not dead. And Benson says, we have the dental 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:20.320 records to prove it. You're saying Irena is buried in 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:23.840 that grave. Benson says, we're sorry, and tries to comfort him. 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:26.760 He screams, my wife is a loving woman, a good mother, 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:30.040 and all Ava ever cared about was herself and her money. 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:32.680 And they're like, we went to the house, Ava is gone. 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:35.120 She packed up her stuff and she's gone. He says, 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:37.440 I don't believe that. They show him the note. He's like, 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:41.240 this isn't true. Benson hands him over IRENA's crucifix. He goes, 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.320 where did you get that? He's so confused. Sabler answers 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.680 from the grave. It finally hits him, so he sits 1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:49.840 in the back of his work truck and he's like, 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:51.720 when we were first married, she used to go to 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:54.160 Mass every morning, every morning. 1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:55.360 It's a little bit aggressive. 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:58.920 Yeah, then she stopped three years ago and said she 1:01:59.040 --> 1:02:02.000 lost her faith. Stabler goes, okay, and then you never 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:04.320 saw Ava again after the falling out, or do you 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.200 know if I Rena saw her, Like what's going on? 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:09.600 So Ava called said she needed money and we just 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.200 had a baby and business was slow, but I Rena 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.600 went over there to explain why we couldn't help out, 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.240 and she didn't get back until two in the morning. 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:21.400 He starts crying and whispers she killed her Benson's like, 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.760 well did she say anything? He said no, she was 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:26.200 sick and didn't talk, and she spent the next two 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:29.080 weeks in bed, and so it's like, well, why would 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.560 she do that? Benson goes, well, you know, we're trying 1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:34.320 to find that out, and Stablor goes, wait, where's your daughter? 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:36.600 Fuck? I realize, but I. 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:39.840 Do also want to say this is also another classic 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:43.520 mail order rise situation, like you didn't notice your wife 1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:49.080 was a little different, Yeah, personality food, Like she shows like. 1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:52.640 Falling into life knowing that. Like what are you talking about? 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.439 Yeah, like I know she knows her sister, but even 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:57.440 like I know their Twitter. 1:02:57.520 --> 1:03:00.000 It's just crazy that you wouldn't notice it's a different person. 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:02.440 And eventually, like, there are people that are married to 1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:05.160 identical twins and they can tell them apart from their 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:07.200 you know, Like so. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:10.680 Yeah, it's just like, yeah, you also wanted a wife 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:14.120 that could cook and clean and do things for you. Like, yeah, 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:16.120 he's a nice one and he didn't beat anyone, but 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:21.320 you also didn't realize your wife was a fully different person. Yeah, 1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:24.800 but okay, so you know they rushed to the school 1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:26.720 the daughter, you know, what's up with the daughter? They 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:29.920 burst into class. Julia runs to him and screams daddy, 1:03:30.000 --> 1:03:33.200 daddy and jumps into his arms. You know, you know 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:35.640 he hugs are so tight. The teacher asks, is they're 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.000 a problem. He goes, no, everything's fine. She's like, oh, well, 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:41.720 you just missed your wife. Record scratch. So the wife 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:44.400 was in here twenty minutes ago. She seemed upset, spoke 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:47.960 to Julia and left. Stabler asks what her mom wanted 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:49.600 and she goes, oh, to give me this, and it's 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.240 a necklace with a picture inside it. She said they 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:53.680 were going to see the puppet man today. 1:03:53.840 --> 1:03:54.200 Walt. 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.640 He's nice and she's like, oh, that's mommy's friend. When 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.880 we go over there, he shows me the puppet and 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.200 the dad has like no idea what she's talking about. 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:05.000 Who this puppet man is in any capacity. So they 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.120 have to press her for more information and she names 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:09.240 another friend that's there, Valentina. 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:11.200 So they're back at home base. 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:16.320 Finn has the scoop so Ava aka or you know, dad, 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:18.760 I arena whatever it's Ava. She cleaned out all the 1:04:18.800 --> 1:04:21.280 accounts this morning, on top of the three hundred dollars 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:24.120 she takes out at the last Friday every month and 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.880 then all the canceled checks have her signature on them, 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:29.520 so you know she's paying household bills. 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:30.880 But where does the rest of the money go. 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:34.160 So not only was like the money taken out every 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:37.360 last Friday, there's also one phone call to euro Match 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:41.959 every last Friday as well, and that's Valentina Bilescu's mail 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:45.680 order bride agency. So Craigan's like, Olivia just called and 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:48.520 said the daughter and mom met with Valentina regularly, so 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:50.840 what the fuck is going on? So they all go 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:53.480 back to meet with Valentina and this little man with 1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:55.960 glasses stops them in the lobby and goes, no, she's 1:04:56.000 --> 1:04:57.880 not here. You can't go in there. We're not doing 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:01.240 anything illegal. And they're like, oh, you're the fucking puppet man, 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:03.360 aren't you. And he's like, listen, I just take the 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:04.840 money and I give it to Valentina. 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:05.960 I know nothing. 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:08.200 They're like, bro, if you took money, that makes you 1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:11.040 an accessory, So stop with the games, bitch one more time. 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:14.040 Where is she? He spills the beans. She's at her 1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:17.480 other office. It's a some warehouse down in Chelsea. They 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:20.160 bust in there. It's so gross. It's obviously a human 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:24.640 trafficking holding cell brothel situation. A woman starts screaming police. 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:26.680 They stop her and go, bitch, you're going down to 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:29.280 if you don't tell us where Valentina is. She doesn't 1:05:29.280 --> 1:05:31.320 want to go down for pimping and kidnapping, so she 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:33.360 points to a door and says, oh, she's in there, 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:35.919 but she comes out before they can bust in there. 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:38.480 She asks for a warrant and they say it's signed 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:43.000 on a judge's desk and they cuff her. You smuggling ass, bitch, 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:48.280 and you're under arrest for unlawful imprisonment, kidnapping, and promoting prostitution. 1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:51.240 They ask where is Ava? She says, I don't have 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:54.160 to tell you anything, but Ava's actually in the room, 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.600 holding and hugging another woman, and all her cash and 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:59.600 gold is on the table. Benson's like, wow, what is 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:02.120 this cat four Nava just goes no, no, no, no no. 1:06:02.440 --> 1:06:05.240 They arrest her for the murder of Irena Burton. She screams, 1:06:05.240 --> 1:06:08.200 I didn't kill her. Stabler carries her away. The younger 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:11.000 woman is screaming in fear. Benson goes like, who is this? 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:14.680 Ava answers, my little sister. I was buying her freedom. 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:18.080 The plot thickens even more. She's not just a gold 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:23.320 digging whore trying to get her sister out. She's in 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:27.320 cement room bars, but like, I actually follow this one 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:30.200 like a Soviet Union kind of girl like me, But 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:32.200 she came here illegally and her mom was a mail 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:33.120 order bride, and. 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.439 She posts like what her life was like, like. 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:38.600 Being raised by a woman who only cared about like 1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:42.000 looks money, manipulating men, like all the lessons she taught 1:06:42.000 --> 1:06:46.200 her were insane and like being able to outgrow the 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:47.920 and she was lied to, like she was taken from 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:50.720 Russia to Hear and all her family was there. She 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:52.560 never saw him again, but didn't say goodbye because no 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:57.160 one filled her in. Wow, and from things I've told you, 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:58.920 you know that that's part of my family's culture. 1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:02.880 Yeah yeah, but like that sounds kind of like the 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:06.200 episode design when the woman's just like an old digger 1:07:06.240 --> 1:07:08.600 and just like trains her daughter to like be like 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:10.840 amoral and just like fuck people over. 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:12.200 Yeah, you're totally right. 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:15.360 It's but this girl seems like she's doing good and 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:18.000 she's writing a book and I follow her. Yeah, yeah, 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:21.120 So she's in cement room bars, like I didn't kill her, 1:07:21.240 --> 1:07:26.280 and Benson goes, sure, you just fully took over her identity, okay, 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:29.760 And they're like, when the bones get identified, you got scared. 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.680 You helped yourself to George and IRENA's money. You thought 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.120 that would keep you going for a while. She goes, no, 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.160 none of this is true. And it's like, don't you 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:40.920 see how wild this is. Listen to her. She's clearly 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:44.400 a victim. Benson screams, then, how did Irena end up 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:47.840 underneath the hydranges in the back of your apartment? She says, 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:50.400 I buried her there. Stabler's like, okay, so you buried 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:52.480 her but didn't murder her. She goes, yeah, I came 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:54.680 home that night. Irena was dead. She was lying on 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:57.800 the floor, and the neighbor had his yard dug up. 1:07:57.880 --> 1:07:59.560 So I put my sister in a trash bag and 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:01.360 I carried her down the stairs and I covered her 1:08:01.400 --> 1:08:03.880 with dirt. And they go and a caller and a leise. 1:08:04.000 --> 1:08:06.680 She says, they were mine. I buried my past with Irena. 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.760 Saber's like, okay, why didn't you just call the police? 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:13.280 Whoever killed Irena was really after me. Valentina had her 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:15.240 sister and I had to get her out. 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:16.439 She's scared to answer. 1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:19.839 When Benson asks that Valentina threatened her, they do the usual. 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:22.040 If you cooperate, we can help you, she says. In 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:25.320 my country, the police help no one. She sits down. 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:28.720 Cab and Craigan are outside the spy window, and he's 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.200 making some sense, like why would she kill one sister 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:33.080 but risk it all to save the other one? This 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:37.240 doesn't make sense. Finally, someone's thinking Saber's like, nobody her 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.439 side could drag a body down three flights of stairs 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:41.320 and bury her. Like what the fuck is she hiding 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:44.360 her protecting? So let's go chat with the other sister. 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:48.600 This sister's pissed, okay, she's had it rough. Fitn is 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:51.240 like what wait, you didn't realize that was your sister, 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:53.759 and she goes, I haven't seen her in years, since 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:56.479 that bitch brought me to this hell hole. The bitch 1:08:56.560 --> 1:08:59.840 is Valentina. She's do you think about Valentina from drug? 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:02.000 Every time we say Valentina or no. 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:06.800 I'd like to keep it on please, Yes, it's me too, Valentina. 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:10.439 Alkay. So she's like, what happens to Irena? 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:12.840 And they say that Ava killed her and took her place, 1:09:12.880 --> 1:09:17.240 and she's like, no fucking way would Irena like harm 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:21.640 anyone all? But like, there's no fucking way. So she 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:23.760 wants to see her, but they're like, no, she's going 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:27.639 to jail again. Clearly a victim. Why are they being 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:30.240 so mean to this girl too? She just got dragged 1:09:30.240 --> 1:09:33.439 out of a brothel. Yeah, like she just found out 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:37.000 her sister is dead. She's been locked in this brothel. 1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:41.200 She finally got her freedom. You raided the place. So 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:45.839 then the girl goes, fucking Valentina did this. She promised 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.559 me marriage and a new life. She went to her parties. 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:50.639 I did everything she said. I was at the parties 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:53.439 at Budapest and one of the men offered to marry me. 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:56.320 So Valentina brought her to the States and got married. 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.559 But that pig changed his mind, she says. And she 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:02.240 was scared to get deported, but Valentina said she would 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:04.880 protect her and keep her here. But instead she took 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:07.840 her to that place and made her a whore. Then Finn, 1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:10.360 in a vest in the most non svu way, says, 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:11.519 why didn't you say no. 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:17.640 She's in a foreign country. This one probably has her passport. 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.639 She doesn't have a dime to her name, Like who 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:22.880 knows if she even speaks English? Why didn't you just 1:10:22.960 --> 1:10:24.960 stop and not be sexually trafficked? 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:26.280 Why? Why? Why not? 1:10:27.640 --> 1:10:31.760 So then she says nobody says no to Valentina and 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:34.000 she's been in this death hole for three and a 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:38.360 half years Jesus because that, you know, the debt had 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.559 to be paid off from the ex husband. So when 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:43.360 all these men get their money back from the ninety 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:46.920 day guarantees, then these women so they don't give a 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:49.439 fuck like marry them, or we get your money back 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:53.799 by pimping you out, Like yeah, fuck, because I was wondering, 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:56.000 like why would they give money back? You know that's 1:10:56.040 --> 1:10:59.479 not that doesn't sound like yeah legal euro matched vibes. 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:02.519 So yeah, she had to pay her back for her losses. 1:11:02.600 --> 1:11:05.000 Then he asks, well why didn't she run away? And 1:11:05.040 --> 1:11:07.320 I'm like, Finn, are you kidding me? But this is 1:11:07.320 --> 1:11:11.000 season two and he hasn't learned yet, you know what 1:11:11.040 --> 1:11:11.320 I mean? 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.000 And like this is his first season. 1:11:13.760 --> 1:11:18.479 She's just domaining and so and he is a little 1:11:18.680 --> 1:11:22.440 not backwards, but like he comes in with outdated ideas 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:24.559 even though he's a poor an addict. 1:11:27.280 --> 1:11:29.439 So but you know this girl does answers. 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:32.960 She goes, I didn't run away because Valentina said they 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:36.240 would kill my sisters if like I went back to 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:40.080 Romania or did anything. So now we're with Valentina and 1:11:40.160 --> 1:11:42.960 she asks Cabot when can I leave? And they're like, bitch, 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:45.880 you're going to rikers. She responds, I can make bail. 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:49.000 Cabot goes, oh, don't count on it. Judges usually don't 1:11:49.040 --> 1:11:52.800 send accused killers home. She asks, well, who did I kill? 1:11:53.160 --> 1:11:55.280 And it's like, okay, bitch, you know you know what's up. 1:11:55.320 --> 1:11:57.880 Accessory to murder of Irena, she says she is not 1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:02.400 a killer. I bring American the brides they want. Cabbitt goes, 1:12:03.040 --> 1:12:05.960 you mean the women you kidnap. She's delusional and things. 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:07.760 She brought these women to get married and have a 1:12:07.760 --> 1:12:11.519 better life. I sheltered them after their husband's divorced them. 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:14.680 And Cabot goes, sure, and then you force them into prostitution. 1:12:15.360 --> 1:12:18.960 So she says, you can't prove anything. What innocent person 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:24.840 says that proven proven. That's a guilty person. Cabot's like, listen, 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:27.679 Ava was gonna talk, but you killed the wrong sister, 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:32.160 so who helped you? Valentina looks Stern and then rolls 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:35.400 her eyes and goes, just give me my lawyer now. 1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.599 So Cabot has to walk out with nothing. 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:40.960 Sailor then also tells Craig and the update, Ava's acting 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:44.720 more like a victim than a purp. I'm like, honestly 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:49.639 at my wits end with these detectives. So Gabbit goes, listen, 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:52.120 they're both scared of someone. Who are they scared of? 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:54.920 So they say let's search her shit, like, let's figure 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:57.519 this out. So they asked to bring in George Burton, 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:01.160 her husband. Maybe that that'll help her, you know. Meanwhile, 1:13:01.240 --> 1:13:03.720 Munch is talking to the glasses man employee at euro 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:06.639 Match and he's acting scared and has no idea about 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:10.200 the whore house, books nothing, and they threaten him with charges. 1:13:10.280 --> 1:13:12.640 He goes, murder, I'm just a clerk. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:16.639 And they keep pushing like who is Valentina's partner and 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:19.519 you know he doesn't know, he doesn't know. Finn goes, okay, fine, 1:13:20.080 --> 1:13:22.040 all the friends that come in and out, like, are 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.200 there some friends that hang out more than others? 1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:25.479 And it finally clicks for him. 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:27.439 He goes, oh, yeah, there's an old man in a 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:29.800 suit that comes in a couple times a week, and 1:13:30.000 --> 1:13:32.080 you know, they have the same accent, and they would 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:35.000 lock themselves in the office, and so they he lets 1:13:35.040 --> 1:13:36.479 them into the office, which is great. 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:37.720 So they go into the office. 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.120 Craigan and Cabot meet in the middle of the precinct 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:43.400 with Stabler and Benson and Valentina's silent partner is the 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:50.840 orchid guy, the Romanian Deputy Chief of Mission, Rosvin Toscu. 1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:52.479 Orchid guy. 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:57.559 Yeah, glasses guy. So it's you know, but diplomatic shit. 1:13:58.200 --> 1:14:01.800 You know, they all have immunity. But George Burton is 1:14:01.840 --> 1:14:05.000 willing to play and he's just really sad and he's heartbroken. 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:07.240 So Saba brings him to the window and Ava's sitting 1:14:07.240 --> 1:14:10.439 on the other side and they're talking and he's like, damn, 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:15.000 there's another sister. Where did you find her? And they're like, honey, 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:17.559 it's a wild story. And he's like, why wouldn't she 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:19.760 tell me? And Sailor's like, well, you know, maybe to 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:23.639 protect you. So George walks in and he goes, hey, 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:25.840 you know, Ava, it's me. She gets up slowly. I 1:14:25.840 --> 1:14:28.479 didn't expect you to come. He goes, you shared my 1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:31.000 bed for three years and you raised my daughter and 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:34.160 it was a lie and Ava was like Irina was dead, 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.479 she would have wanted this. He does not like that. 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:39.920 He starts getting aggressive, you know about the Toscu guy, 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:42.000 and she says, if he finds out, he's going to 1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:45.080 kill you like he killed Irena. She threatened to tell 1:14:45.080 --> 1:14:47.479 the police about him if he didn't let Ksana go. 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:48.439 That's the sister. 1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:52.160 Obviously, we all think about Oksana bay Yule rats to 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:55.160 her winning the gold medal in the nineties. So I 1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:57.840 remember losing my mind at our house when she when 1:14:57.920 --> 1:14:58.280 she won. 1:14:59.000 --> 1:15:01.479 I remember my dad telling me the girl who's gonna 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:03.719 win the Olympics is a girl named Naksana by Yule, 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:05.840 and I went, I've never even heard of that person, dad, 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:06.960 And then she fucking won. 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:10.800 Yeah, I know, you know, they wanted Nancy Kerrigan to win. 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:13.960 But yeah, little Luxana came out. She had like such 1:15:14.080 --> 1:15:18.600 stiff puffy bangs, so crazy, so little. 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:19.800 They're all so little. 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:23.000 Because I think about Tara Lipinski's tiny Sasha. 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:27.240 Yeah, Sasha Cone won the gold like all of them. Yeah, 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:29.599 you gotta really fly yourself up there in the air. 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:33.599 Yeah. Actually today it's in spin class. I was watching 1:15:33.640 --> 1:15:35.200 a woman in the front, and I go, you're such 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:39.040 as Tanya Harding. I go, you're so strong, you're riding 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:41.400 so hard. You look she looks, you. 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:45.000 Look wild, lady, get some get some class. That's it. 1:15:45.280 --> 1:15:47.439 But I didn't think. I go, yeah, you're the winner 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:48.719 of this class. But you look insane. 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:50.960 You're like I could tell your mom sewed your soul 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:52.160 Cycle outfit together. 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:59.200 It's so funny because I love Tanya Harding's outfits. Okay, 1:15:59.280 --> 1:16:03.920 so anyways, back to reality. This Suksana is not an 1:16:04.040 --> 1:16:07.880 unfortunately Olympic gold ice skater. So basically Ava was saying 1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:11.840 she saw him. There's a witness now, So she saw 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:14.559 him outside her apartment building. He left something next to 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:17.920 the trash in a plastic bag, and inside, when she looked, 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:20.639 she found her sister. So she put on her wedding 1:16:20.720 --> 1:16:23.920 rings and buried her. And now she sits down and 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:28.120 she says that this motherfucker raped her and made her 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.840 wear the collar. He did to her what he used 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:33.960 to do to me. He yells, how did you let 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:36.680 that happen? And she yells back, I wasn't there, and 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:40.040 then she starts crying and she goes, I couldn't stop 1:16:40.120 --> 1:16:43.280 him full tears, you know, big vein in the forehead 1:16:43.680 --> 1:16:46.599 and through her tears, she said, And Irena never told 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:50.960 him it wasn't me. You know she could have yah, 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:54.640 but I bet he would have just killed both of them, right. Yeah, 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.559 he wants to know why he wasn't told. Well, because 1:16:57.560 --> 1:17:00.559 I'm also wondering if the sisters was really mad at 1:17:00.600 --> 1:17:04.240 Ava all this time, or like she obviously knew she 1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:08.680 was making money to buy their other sister. Yeah, so, 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:11.719 like was she lying to George. It's just a little 1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:15.320 bit confusing. But I don't trust George. He used mail 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:19.519 order bride services. Sorry, don't trust you. So he wants 1:17:19.560 --> 1:17:21.639 to know why he wasn't told, and she's like, listen, 1:17:21.960 --> 1:17:24.839 if they thought I was dead, I knew we were safe. 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:27.760 All the men, all the jewelry, the money I took 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:30.479 from you. All I wanted was to get Uksana out. 1:17:30.520 --> 1:17:34.799 I'm so sorry, he says, you're sorry. She ugly cries. 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:38.000 He says sorry, won't bring Irena back. She nuzzles him 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:40.479 and begs please. He pushes her off of him. How 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:42.840 could you live with yourself? And he walks out of 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:44.080 the room and slams the door. 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:44.760 I don't know, I. 1:17:44.720 --> 1:17:48.640 Don't like I don't like him. Yeah, Like, do you 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:50.080 not see that? This was difficult? 1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:52.760 I remember feeling so bad for him when I first 1:17:52.840 --> 1:17:55.639 watched the episode, though, Like I was like, he's been 1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:58.320 sleeping with like a stranger for three years. But again, 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:02.639 notice it's like you didn't notice, Like yeah, he walks 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:04.479 out of the spy room and closes the door. 1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:07.519 Kaba asks the crew if they believe her, and they're like, listen, 1:18:07.720 --> 1:18:09.559 maybe she would lie to us, but she's not lying 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:11.680 to him. So she's the only one that could put 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:14.000 away this dude as a witness. And Craigan's like, Eve, 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:16.200 you know, even if there's a tape of him doing it, 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:19.320 he's a diplomat, we can't touch him. Benson goes, Alex, 1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:21.559 there's got to be something you can do. So she 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:23.920 goes to run chat with a friend. I feel like 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:26.080 they had kind of chemistry and I bet their fuck 1:18:26.120 --> 1:18:27.479 buddy energy thoughts. 1:18:28.120 --> 1:18:29.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it. 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.000 I think we think that about like any guy that 1:18:32.080 --> 1:18:34.240 Alex is like, oh my old friend from law school. 1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:36.759 We're like, you guys fucked right, Like she's just so hot. 1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:39.080 These guys all wanted to I'm sure even if it 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:39.719 didn't happen. 1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:41.400 And she's sex positive. 1:18:42.000 --> 1:18:44.280 So she's doing a walk and talk on a super 1:18:44.360 --> 1:18:47.400 busy street and they're passing Seventieth Street and there's like 1:18:47.479 --> 1:18:50.160 steam behind them. It's like really kind of silly, classic 1:18:50.200 --> 1:18:54.920 New York, like a cartoon of a busy city cones everywhere. 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:57.960 She's like, I need help from the State's apartment. He goes, Babe, 1:18:58.000 --> 1:19:02.080 it's nearly impossible to convince a nation to wave diplomatic community. 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.879 And she's like, well, Russia' set precedent with the Republic 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:07.200 of Georgia on a drunk driving case in DC and 1:19:07.280 --> 1:19:07.880 YadA YadA. 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:09.920 I can't get into another case. I'm exhausted. 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:14.120 So they talk business and she says, well, listen, I 1:19:14.160 --> 1:19:15.439 want to put away a murderer. 1:19:15.720 --> 1:19:17.760 He has an idea. It's a long shot, but let's 1:19:17.840 --> 1:19:18.240 try it. 1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:20.479 So they go talk to the Orchid creep and a 1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:23.439 man with a suit who can wave immunity. So they 1:19:23.479 --> 1:19:26.640 bring out all the accusations. He's offended by these insults 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:31.519 and baseless accusations. They bring out the bones photo so 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:34.000 they're like, we know what he did to this woman 1:19:34.040 --> 1:19:36.360 from your country. He grabs a photo, goes let me 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:40.439 see that. He says tragic. He leans back, do you 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:43.080 think I'm responsible? And they're like, yeah, bitch, we have 1:19:43.080 --> 1:19:47.040 a witness. Oh yeah, her sister of a perulis right. 1:19:47.280 --> 1:19:48.720 And in my head it's like, how do you know that? 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:52.280 Did you think he killed Ava? Did they already tell 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:54.040 him there's like switched twins? 1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:55.720 Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 1:19:57.000 --> 1:19:59.720 So that means he knows, Like, if he knows who 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:02.439 did it, he's the killer. But maybe I'm missing something here. 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:06.080 So the suit guy with him says, well, without hardcore evidence, 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:08.759 we can't do anything, and then the orchid guy folds 1:20:08.760 --> 1:20:10.840 his arm and says, you have nothing but the word 1:20:10.840 --> 1:20:13.639 from criminals and of a woman who buried her sister 1:20:13.720 --> 1:20:19.200 in a shallow grave. Cabot is pissed, but her friend 1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:20.680 is like, chill out, chill out, I got this. 1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:21.519 He leans in. 1:20:21.880 --> 1:20:24.479 He says they're leaving them with no alternative, and the 1:20:24.520 --> 1:20:28.599 government has authorized him to make this dude persona non grata. 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:31.599 He has forty eight hours to leave the United States. 1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:35.200 Cabot's back at SVU and Stabler's pissed, so he walks. 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:37.679 She says she didn't know that her friend was going 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:39.439 to do that, and Cabot's like, well, at least it 1:20:39.479 --> 1:20:43.320 brought us some time. Cragan's interested, but what do you 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:45.080 want us to do? Like, what do you need from us? 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:48.040 Alex like, we'll do whatever and something. She goes something 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:51.479 more than Ava Perulus's words. Stabler goes, there's nothing else. 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.920 Cabot goes, well, that's what we need. Cragan says, go 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:58.000 back to the physical evidence, go back to the bones. 1:20:58.320 --> 1:21:01.240 So I trust. So it's so funny. 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:05.160 So they have a Chinese food meeting, which is my 1:21:05.400 --> 1:21:08.439 favorite type of solving that they do, and the Emmy 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:11.760 papers and they're rifling through samples and they did find 1:21:11.800 --> 1:21:14.920 samples in her panties that were sent to forensic geologists, 1:21:14.920 --> 1:21:19.160 but the results aren't back till next week. No, so 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:21.280 they run to a lab tech and they say, dance 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:26.000 for us, bitch. So one of the samples we're not 1:21:26.240 --> 1:21:29.280 consistent with the place that was found, and he's gonna 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:32.760 check tomorrow what that all is. But basically whatever was 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:35.720 found was not native to this yard. And they go, 1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:38.400 you're not waiting till tomorrow, you need to test it now. 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:41.920 So Benson and Stabler are at the Romanian official building 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:44.360 waiting for his ass and his bags are packed, his 1:21:44.479 --> 1:21:46.880 drivers carrying them out, and behind him is the creep 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:49.200 and he's running out and he goes, oh, good morning. 1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:52.599 You guys here to send me off. Cocky, cocky. They 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:55.000 say you're not getting away with this. He says, I'll 1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:57.479 send you a card for my next post. I hope 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.840 it's a warmer climate, and he walks away. Stabler stops 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:03.240 him and arrests him. He screams out about you know, 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:06.679 diplomatic immunity, and it goes no, no, no, you're going 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:09.920 down for the murder of Irena Burton. Benson reminds him 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:13.920 he doesn't have immunity anymore as of that morning. Stabler says, 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:17.559 the government doesn't appreciate your sideline business as a murderer 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:20.519 and a pimp, and they cut you loose. He says, 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:23.880 you have no evidence. In a panic, they say, sure, 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.320 we do. Two little grains of pollen belonging to the 1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:32.760 ginghis Firmin Lambau. He asks, my orchids, you know they 1:22:32.840 --> 1:22:36.559 betrayed him, and they go, yep, we found it on 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:37.639 IRENA's clothing. 1:22:37.680 --> 1:22:39.160 You should have washed your hands. 1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:42.479 So he's being thrown in the back of the car 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:43.920 and now we're at right away. 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:46.080 I love the drama, I really do. 1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:48.519 But what are we proving here that this is the 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:50.639 only man that owns orchands in New York City. 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:53.720 No, but he bred them. He bred that one, he 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:55.879 bread that specific Organd yes. 1:22:55.760 --> 1:23:00.160 He bred those orchids in his office. He made them. Oh, oh, 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:02.120 that's what he was bragging about. 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:05.639 And shut your fucking mouth about your orchids, dummy. 1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:08.639 Okay, it's kind of like the mushroom guy from Wet Sorry, 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:11.200 It's like, yeah, you made these potions, Like we know 1:23:11.280 --> 1:23:17.040 it's you. So George's there with Julia and then you know, 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:20.439 he walks away, Aksana walks away, and you know, finally 1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:23.800 we get to have IRENA's funeral. George does say thank you, 1:23:24.000 --> 1:23:27.439 and they say thank us. When he's convicted, they say, damn, 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:29.800 this really could have gone on forever, Like she could 1:23:29.840 --> 1:23:33.080 have just lived as Irena for a long time if 1:23:33.080 --> 1:23:36.439 these bones weren't found. Benson goes, Yep, if it hadn't 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:41.800 been for the bones bones, Ava's standing there at the gravesite, 1:23:41.880 --> 1:23:43.719 Irena can finally rest in peace. 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:45.080 She is sobbing. 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:47.080 You know, it's a lot of pain that she has 1:23:47.120 --> 1:23:50.960 gone through and they walk away from her slowly, and 1:23:51.200 --> 1:23:52.639 you know that's a dick wolf baby. 1:23:52.840 --> 1:23:54.640 They just leave her crying. They couldn't even give her 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:57.240 a pat on the back. Oh my gosh. 1:23:57.760 --> 1:23:59.800 So and like what was her plan? I wonder, like 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.200 after she got after she freed Oksana, was she gonna 1:24:03.240 --> 1:24:05.479 stay married to this guy and keep up the ruse 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:07.679 or like maybe finally tell him or like. 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:11.640 Yeah, because that's her niece and she could probably just 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:12.880 pretend to her sister too. 1:24:12.880 --> 1:24:14.320 Her sister hasn't seen them in years. 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:18.160 Yeah, And like I feel so bad for the little 1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:20.040 girl because it's like, your mom's dead, but like the 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:21.720 woman you've been thinking here is your mom for most 1:24:21.720 --> 1:24:23.719 of the life that you've created memories is alive. 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:26.000 But you know how it is mad at her? 1:24:26.439 --> 1:24:29.920 Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well we have a couple of fucked 1:24:29.960 --> 1:24:41.240 up cases, so let's jump right in. So the first 1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:44.559 case that I want to talk about is the Raina 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:50.120 Marokein case. Raina Angelica Marokeine was a Salvadoran woman who 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:53.160 immigrated to the New York area in nineteen sixty six 1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:56.280 after a failed marriage, telling her family she was going 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:59.040 to be somebody, and for three years She worked as 1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:03.160 a nanny as well as assembling plastic flowers at Melrose 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:07.120 Plastics on East on East thirty fourth Street in Manhattan, 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:09.719 and she wrote to her family all the time. Rada 1:25:09.800 --> 1:25:13.280 studied English and fashion, and she took citizenship classes. Her 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.840 friend said she loved the United States. She was fascinated 1:25:15.880 --> 1:25:18.759 by New York. You know, she's like living a great life. 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:22.280 In nineteen sixty nine, the letters to her family stopped 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:26.599 and Rena basically disappeared. She was twenty seven years old. 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:29.840 Her family put ads in the paper, but eventually they 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:31.320 just like came to terms with the fact that they 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:33.120 were like never going to find out what happened to Arna. 1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:37.519 Thirty years later, fast forward to September of nineteen ninety nine, 1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:41.960 a guy named Hamid Tafagodie had just bought a house 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:46.240 in Jericho, New York, on Long Island, and he found unlike, 1:25:46.880 --> 1:25:49.800 instead of the hydrangea bushes or whatever with the skeleton, 1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:53.960 they find a rusted fifty five gallon drum weighing three 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:57.439 hundred and forty five pounds, which is giving me, giving 1:25:57.479 --> 1:26:01.000 me dexter barrel. Girl vibes all the way and it's 1:26:01.000 --> 1:26:03.799 in a crawl space under the house, and he wants 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:05.720 the cellar, this guy Ronald Cohen. 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:06.080 To remove it. 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:09.200 So then they get garbage men to come in there. 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.080 They refuse to touch it. They're worried that it's got 1:26:11.160 --> 1:26:13.840 toxic chemicals inside because it's like a die barrel. It's 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:17.360 like a barrel that you used to hold die. So 1:26:18.320 --> 1:26:20.439 then the guy Cohen who's the cellar of the house 1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:23.280 and his reeltor ended up prying off the top of 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:28.080 the barrel and they see a hand and they immediately 1:26:28.200 --> 1:26:33.519 show they immediately call the police. So inside the drum 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:37.880 is Raina's body. She had been nine months pregnant and 1:26:38.040 --> 1:26:40.800 the cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head. 1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:42.280 The drum was. 1:26:42.320 --> 1:26:48.640 Also filled with polystyrene pellets two rings. One was inscribed mhr. 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:50.479 We never really get to the bottom of that. A 1:26:50.520 --> 1:26:54.599 locket inscribed to patrece love uncle Phil, we don't get 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:57.040 to the bottom of that green dye. And then an 1:26:57.160 --> 1:27:01.040 artificial a plastic artificial plant stem if you'll remember she 1:27:01.080 --> 1:27:05.280 worked at a plastic flower factory. And an address book. Now, 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:07.160 some of the address book could actually be read by 1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:10.120 the naked eye. It was actually not in thirty years 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:13.080 it had not fully, like you know, deteriorated to the 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:16.679 point of iligibility, but a lot of it could also 1:27:16.720 --> 1:27:18.840 be read under the special lighting that we've seen them 1:27:18.840 --> 1:27:21.320 do on SVU before. And they were able to make 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:23.559 out a permanent residence card with Reina's name on it, 1:27:23.560 --> 1:27:25.280 so they were able to confirm that it was Reina. 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:28.639 The drum itself was made to transport die like I said, 1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:31.479 and it had been shipped to Melrose Plastics, where Reina 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:36.479 worked and done done, where a prominent businessman, Howard b 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:38.679 Elkins was the principal owner. 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:41.840 What else did Howard be Elkins own once upon a time. 1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:45.040 The house in Jericho where the barrel was found, so 1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:49.479 he had not lived in the house for decades. More people, three, 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:53.040 I believe three or four other homeowners lived in this house. 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:55.479 A couple of them were like, yeah, we saw the barrel. 1:27:55.520 --> 1:27:57.200 It was too heavy to move. We just didn't fuck 1:27:57.240 --> 1:27:59.200 with it. They just lived with the barrel in the 1:27:59.240 --> 1:28:02.599 crawl space. Another thing that they found in the address 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:06.120 book was the phone number of Kathy Andreid, who had 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:10.000 been Rena's friend. She told the police that Rena was 1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:12.840 having an affair with Elkins, who was the owner of 1:28:12.840 --> 1:28:16.959 the plastic flower factory where she worked. When she became pregnant, 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:19.760 Elkins got her an apartment in Hoboken, New Jersey, got her 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:21.840 a private doctor was kind of taking care of things 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:24.640 on the side, and she kept expecting. 1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:25.360 He was going to leave his wife. 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:29.040 And TikTok, you know, she is so many parts of 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:30.839 the episode are in this already. 1:28:31.040 --> 1:28:34.200 I know, kind of in all the little moment. It's 1:28:34.280 --> 1:28:34.960 really wild. 1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:37.439 Yeah, it's like even paying for the private doctor and 1:28:37.520 --> 1:28:39.559 the apartment kind of feels like what the doctor was 1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:40.640 doing for his you know. 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:41.160 Yeah. 1:28:41.240 --> 1:28:45.160 Yeah. So she was like, TikTok, bro, what are you 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.760 leaving your wife? And like time goes on and she's 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:50.160 almost nine months pregnant and she's had enough. So she 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:53.960 calls his house and she tells his wife, Ruth, about 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:57.320 the affair. Then she called her friend Kathy, and as 1:28:57.400 --> 1:29:01.120 Kathy told CBS quote, she said, he's going to kill me. 1:29:01.240 --> 1:29:03.599 I said, no, just calm down, nothing's going to happen. 1:29:03.600 --> 1:29:05.960 Nobody's going to kill you. She said, yes, yes, he 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:10.080 says he's going to kill me. So Kathy said, she 1:29:10.240 --> 1:29:12.840 rushed to her friend's apartment and Hoboken and that's when 1:29:12.840 --> 1:29:16.240 she got nervous. The door was open, warm food is 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:19.200 on the stove. It's the middle of winter, but Kathy 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:21.719 says rain as winter coat is still there, her purse, 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:23.400 her gloves, her boots. 1:29:23.320 --> 1:29:24.559 But she's nowhere to be found. 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:27.439 Kathy said she waited for around four hours, then went 1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:30.800 to the police, another instance of the police not giving 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:34.519 an actual fuck that she couldn't file a missing person's 1:29:34.560 --> 1:29:37.639 report because she's not a relative, and they were like, Babe, 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.600 she probably just ran off with a boyfriend or something like, 1:29:40.640 --> 1:29:42.639 we can't file anything. You're gonna have to check back 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:45.960 in a few days. Kathy never followed up, and she 1:29:46.080 --> 1:29:49.040 was like her only friend and connection, And it seemed 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:52.479 like like previous to living in the Hoboken apartment, she'd 1:29:52.520 --> 1:29:55.800 just been living at like boarding houses that run by 1:29:56.080 --> 1:29:58.960 churches or whatever, you know. So I think she was 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:02.559 kind of like a loner and had, you know, just 1:30:02.640 --> 1:30:03.519 moved to the country. 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:07.040 So Kathy just honestly like let. 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.880 It fade from her memory until nineteen ninety nine when 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:11.559 she was contacted and the body was found. 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:13.800 I'm a little sessed about Kathy, Like. 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.880 A year later, you weren't like whatever happened to Rena 1:30:16.160 --> 1:30:19.760 my nine month pregnant friend who disappeared, like maybe it 1:30:19.840 --> 1:30:21.400 was one of those things where she kind of knew 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:22.840 something suspicious must have happened. 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:24.840 Didn't want to get implicated. 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:30.240 But meanwhile, Elkins, who had sold Melrose plastics in nineteen 1:30:30.280 --> 1:30:32.639 seventy two, moved to Boca Raton with his wife. He's 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:34.519 also the father of three kids, but I can't find 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:37.400 out whether they were born like pre or post the murder, 1:30:37.479 --> 1:30:40.400 so I just know that they exist. It was at 1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:44.000 his retirement home in a condominium community where he was 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:47.760 interrogated by Nassau County homicide investigators on September ninth, a 1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:51.799 week after the body had been discovered. Detective Sergeant Robert Edwards, 1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:54.360 who was a Deputy chief of the NASA County Homicide Squad, 1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:57.400 questioned Elkins, with a partner for an hour and a half. 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:00.759 At first, they said he would just kind of stare 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:04.200 at them when they ask questions and deny any knowledge, 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:06.759 like he didn't know anything about the barrel. He couldn't 1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:08.880 explain why his name was in her address book that 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:12.639 was found in the barrel, he said. Eventually, Elkins admitted 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:15.599 to having a relationship with a young woman at Melrose Plastics. 1:31:15.760 --> 1:31:18.200 He didn't give her name, didn't give a description of her, 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:21.519 and didn't even specify the kind of relationship that they had. 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:25.000 So Sergeant Elkins also said that when they asked for 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:29.240 a DNA swab of his mouth, he declined and police 1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:31.160 told him that they because they police told him we 1:31:31.200 --> 1:31:33.759 planned to compare this with the tissue from the fetus, 1:31:34.160 --> 1:31:37.400 and he also asked the police after he declined the swab, 1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:39.000 he was like, Okay, can you guys leave before my 1:31:39.040 --> 1:31:41.559 wife comes home because I'm going to need to discuss 1:31:41.600 --> 1:31:44.519 this with her as well as quote unquote other sensitive issues. 1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:48.160 So they left, telling him they'd be back the following 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:49.839 day with a court order for his DNA. 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:51.759 He was not taken into custody. 1:31:51.920 --> 1:31:53.920 Edwards later said that they didn't really consider him a 1:31:53.960 --> 1:31:55.800 flight risk because he's a seventy one year old man. 1:31:55.880 --> 1:31:56.559 It's that old. 1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:59.280 Seventy one year old people can still take airplanes places. 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:04.519 The next day, September tenth, Edwards was enlisting the help 1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:07.400 of local Florida Police department when he got the news. 1:32:07.880 --> 1:32:11.040 Elkins had gone to a Walmart, a neighborhood Walmart, bought 1:32:11.040 --> 1:32:13.679 a shotgun and had taken his life in the back 1:32:13.720 --> 1:32:16.639 of a sport explorer at a friend's house in Boca 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:19.840 Raton at the age of seventy one. He was This 1:32:20.040 --> 1:32:24.439 was twenty hours after police questioned him. So there's kind 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:26.439 of no doubt in my mind this guy is responsible 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:29.720 for this crime. His neighbors in Boca were shocked to 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:32.160 hear that he was involved in the crime. One neighbor 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:34.519 told the New York Post quote, Howard was very active 1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:36.720 in the community, very much in this social scene. Like 1:32:36.760 --> 1:32:38.960 a lot of the articles described him as like jovial 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:40.320 and like charming. 1:32:40.600 --> 1:32:42.479 Well, it gives me a lot of attitude when you 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:45.240 get away with murder, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:48.799 And the New York Post also reported, which is barely 1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:52.200 to ever be believed, but they also reported that Rena 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:54.840 was often seen at the Melrose Plastics factory with a 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:57.960 toddler who was widely believed to have been fathered by Elkins. 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:00.360 And that's a child who would be fifty six or 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:02.840 fifty seven today. But the only source I can find 1:33:02.880 --> 1:33:05.040 that in is the New York Post. So I think 1:33:05.040 --> 1:33:09.280 it's either wrong or maybe somebody saw her with like 1:33:09.280 --> 1:33:11.759 one of the children she was nannying at the place, 1:33:11.800 --> 1:33:14.840 but like there's no proof that there's like where would 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:17.200 that kid be, like if he killed both, you know, 1:33:17.280 --> 1:33:19.920 like where is that kid like just wandering around the earth. 1:33:20.560 --> 1:33:24.160 So investigators think that what happened is Elkins either took 1:33:24.240 --> 1:33:27.000 Raina from her apartment or lured her to the factory somehow, 1:33:27.280 --> 1:33:29.360 but probably took her if she wasn't wearing a jacket 1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:31.800 or boots or anything in the or taking a purse 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:34.920 with her, and killed her put her body in the barrel. 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:38.559 Detective Edwards said to CBS, there's no doubt in my 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:41.200 mind that he's the one that killed this woman. Then 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:43.519 he brought the barrel home with him because they thought 1:33:43.520 --> 1:33:45.479 he had plans to eventually throw it off of his 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.040 boat into the ocean. But after he filled it with 1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:50.960 all the polystyrene pellets, it was too heavy for him 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:52.879 to even lift. It was three hundred and forty five pounds, 1:33:53.240 --> 1:33:55.320 so he just shoved it into the crawl space and 1:33:55.400 --> 1:33:58.920 left it there. And I'm wondering if it mummified pretty 1:33:58.960 --> 1:34:01.960 quickly before it could smell, because it was the winter, 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:04.360 you know, like because it was winter, maybe like it 1:34:04.720 --> 1:34:07.360 she like, because I don't know, there wasn't like any 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:10.679 nobody complained that there was like a smell coming from 1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:12.639 one of maybe barrels keep that kind of smelling. Who 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:16.720 fucking knows. In January of two thousand, DNA results and 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:19.000 did confirm that Elkins was the father of the baby. 1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:23.320 So her remains were flown back to ourselves. It's also 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:25.120 the family did get some closure. 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:27.920 Your wife already knows that you cheated on her, why 1:34:27.920 --> 1:34:28.960 do you have to kill this girl. 1:34:29.439 --> 1:34:32.720 The other thing is him taking his own life was 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:36.880 actually probably uh because like I think even the investigator 1:34:36.880 --> 1:34:40.840 who did the case was like, we probably they could 1:34:40.920 --> 1:34:43.439 not have convicted him in court because just because he's 1:34:43.439 --> 1:34:45.479 the father of the baby, there is no proof he 1:34:45.560 --> 1:34:47.960 killed her, like that is kind of circumstanced. 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:51.479 In his house. The barrel was in his old house. 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:53.200 That's true. 1:34:53.280 --> 1:34:55.320 But one article I was reading was like, we might 1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:56.840 not even been able to get him in court, and 1:34:56.840 --> 1:34:59.439 I was like, yeah, the body was found on your 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:02.960 own property, like it does feel, but maybe there's reasonable 1:35:03.000 --> 1:35:04.720 doubt maybe the wife did it, you know, like if 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:07.680 you can't prove, like who knows, who fucking knows. But 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:11.720 her family was able to get closure finally, and then 1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:15.400 her body was like her mother was like ninety five 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:17.400 years old, like waiting for her to come back to 1:35:17.400 --> 1:35:20.000 El Salvador, and like so she before she died was 1:35:20.040 --> 1:35:23.479 able to get that closure. There's another case, and it's 1:35:23.479 --> 1:35:27.639 a wild one as well. So July first, nineteen ninety seven, Oakland, 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:32.439 California firefighters arrived at the home of Stevie Allman, fifty two. 1:35:33.000 --> 1:35:35.280 That's a woman, even though the name is Stevie, which 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:39.280 is a blaze Okay, the house is on fire big time. 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:43.519 Stevie is an anti drug crusader and claimed that drug 1:35:43.560 --> 1:35:46.800 dealers had thrown molotov cocktails into her house in an 1:35:46.800 --> 1:35:50.719 attempt to kill her. Greg Hughes, a former Oakland police sergeant, 1:35:50.720 --> 1:35:55.360 told Oxygen that Stevie was quote filming dope deals and prostitution, 1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:57.400 and she wanted to put an end to it end 1:35:57.479 --> 1:36:02.360 quote okay. Her sister, Sarah Mitchell, five years younger at 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:06.400 age forty seven, also lived in the home, but Stevie said, oh, 1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:09.000 Sarah was scared of all this drug dealer retaliation and 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:12.120 she's fled to Nevada with her boyfriend. The two sisters 1:36:12.120 --> 1:36:14.599 had grown up in this house with seven other siblings. 1:36:14.840 --> 1:36:16.880 Their dad had walked out on them, and Stevie had 1:36:16.880 --> 1:36:20.120 really helped raise all the younger kids, and even though 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:22.080 there was a five year age gap. A lot of 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:24.600 people confused Stevie and Sarah for twins. They looked a 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:29.920 lot alike, but Sarah struggled. She had a history of theft, prostitution, 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:33.519 drug abuse, and by her thirty she was divorced with 1:36:33.600 --> 1:36:36.519 three young kids. And it sounds like she kind of 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:38.599 went from like man to man like she fell in 1:36:38.600 --> 1:36:39.439 love very easily. 1:36:39.479 --> 1:36:40.400 It never worked out. 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:42.959 She always ended up back home with her mom and Stevie, 1:36:43.280 --> 1:36:45.559 and then when their mom passed away, she left the 1:36:45.560 --> 1:36:48.040 house to her kids, and Stevie bought out all the 1:36:48.080 --> 1:36:50.760 other siblings and became sole owner of the house. 1:36:50.840 --> 1:36:52.320 You know, sto my goddamn house. 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:55.439 You know, very uh Kim and Kyle Richards, But Stevie 1:36:55.439 --> 1:36:57.599 owned the house and she let Sarah keep living there. 1:36:58.080 --> 1:37:01.720 So the story of a woman and attacked by drug 1:37:01.760 --> 1:37:05.320 dealers kind of spread and people were angry that this 1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:08.000 woman who had tried to like valiantly protect her community 1:37:08.080 --> 1:37:10.360 was now being violently attacked. And they were like, crime 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:13.120 is destroying the city. You know, there's that narrative all 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:17.479 the time. People sent thousands of dollars in donations to Stevie. 1:37:17.560 --> 1:37:19.519 And what I read was she even got a call 1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:21.040 from the White House. I don't know if that means that, 1:37:21.120 --> 1:37:23.320 like a secretary called her from the White House or 1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:25.000 a president a vice. 1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:26.400 I have no idea, but somebody called her from the 1:37:26.439 --> 1:37:26.920 White House. 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:32.400 Meanwhile, the authorities are investigating and they're finding some weird stuff. 1:37:32.400 --> 1:37:34.679 They're like, first of all, all the drug dealers deny 1:37:34.760 --> 1:37:36.600 knowing about this fire. None of them even like know 1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:38.519 who Stevie is. They don't even know anything about the 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:42.960 videos being taken. Then they start to notice inaccurate inaccuracies 1:37:43.000 --> 1:37:45.160 in her story, like the way that the glass was 1:37:45.200 --> 1:37:47.880 broken was like opposite of how a Molotov cocktail would 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:52.840 be thrown in, So like, what's going on? Then Leotta Belleville, 1:37:53.360 --> 1:37:56.479 Stevie and Sarah's sister filed a missing person's report for 1:37:56.520 --> 1:37:59.160 Stevie and they told they told her, oh, no, Stevie's 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:01.479 in the hospital, and she's like, naw doog, that's Sarah 1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:02.200 in the hospital. 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:04.720 And Leata said that Stevie was. 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:07.280 Not the kind of person to be an anti drug crusader, 1:38:07.560 --> 1:38:09.639 she would have just minded her own business and looked 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:12.400 the other way. She's like, I know Stevie would not 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:14.160 be getting involved in people's business, and people want to 1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:16.920 fucking get handies in the car. I'm not fucking with that. 1:38:17.360 --> 1:38:20.480 So Leata is like, something is up here. So eventually 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:24.479 Leatta talked to Sarah, who told her, Oh, no, I'm 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:27.120 just posing as Stevie because I don't have insurance right now, 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:29.599 and like I need them to pay for my injuries 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:32.720 from the fire or for like whatever the house. I 1:38:32.760 --> 1:38:36.960 don't even know. I don't have insurance. So then she's like, well, 1:38:37.040 --> 1:38:39.960 so where is Stevie? And they ask Sarah and Sarah goes, oh, 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:42.479 she's in like Tahoe. No, wait, she's in Reno. So 1:38:42.560 --> 1:38:45.599 Leata is concerned. She's like, my sister is like lying 1:38:45.640 --> 1:38:48.960 about where Stevie is. So she knew things had gotten 1:38:49.040 --> 1:38:52.200 tense between the sisters, like Stevie was annoyed that Sarah 1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:55.280 was lazy, didn't work, like lived rent free in the house. 1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:59.519 Stevie was also considering moving away from Oakland, which panicked 1:38:59.560 --> 1:39:01.240 Sarah was like, what where does that leave me? 1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:02.160 Like where am I going to go? 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:05.559 So they bring in Sarah and she's still claiming to 1:39:05.560 --> 1:39:08.439 be Stevie and she's like no, no, no, Leonta was 1:39:08.479 --> 1:39:11.080 just having a kooky night, like she knows I'm Stevie. 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:13.040 And then they're like, okay, cool, can we see ID? 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:16.960 And she not twins right, no five year age difference, 1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:20.640 but look a lot alike. So she has IDs in 1:39:20.680 --> 1:39:23.280 her wallet for both Sarah and Stevie. So then they 1:39:23.360 --> 1:39:26.200 fingerprint her and confirm she's Sarah. She has a record, 1:39:26.280 --> 1:39:28.280 like you know, they have her prints on file, so 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:30.800 they arrest her for forgery and providing a false ID. 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:34.160 But now where the hell is Stevie? They go look 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:38.000 into Stevie. Her bank accounts have been drained, okay. When 1:39:38.000 --> 1:39:40.360 they get security footage from the bank, they can see 1:39:40.400 --> 1:39:43.160 it's Sarah making the transactions to take out all this money. 1:39:43.520 --> 1:39:46.160 They search her house for clues, and that's where they 1:39:46.200 --> 1:39:53.360 find Done Done, Stevie's dismembered body in the freezer. They discovered, 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:56.320 based on forensic evidence, that Stevie had been killed in 1:39:56.360 --> 1:39:59.519 her bedroom and then dismembered in the bathroom. So on 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:02.840 July t twenty third, like three weeks after this fire 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:06.000 of nineteen ninety seven, Sarah is charged with Stevie's murder. 1:40:06.160 --> 1:40:08.920 The trial begins in November of two thousand, which it 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:11.960 just goes to show you the hilarious quickness of this 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:15.200 of these episodes of SVU, like, her trial doesn't happen 1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:19.000 for three fucking years. Prosecutors argued that on June thirtieth, 1:40:19.120 --> 1:40:22.599 the day before the fire bombing, Sarah walked into Stevie's bedroom, 1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:25.479 bludgeoned her to death while she slept, then brought her 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:29.040 into the bathroom and chopped her into pieces. So this 1:40:29.080 --> 1:40:31.160 did not This trial did not last very long. She 1:40:31.240 --> 1:40:34.040 was found guilty at first Yew murder. This is interesting. 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:35.920 I don't know if this is a California thing. I 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:40.320 don't think California does the death penalty anymore, but at 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:42.680 this time I guess there was some kind of thing 1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:45.280 where she could have been eligible for death by lethal 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:49.640 injection because she profited financially from the death, which is 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:53.120 a weird thing that they clause or whatever. 1:40:53.720 --> 1:40:54.679 I think. Now it's gone. 1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.960 But her family, though, spoke at the trial and asked 1:40:57.960 --> 1:41:00.000 for mercy for her when it came to the death penalty. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:01.960 They said they'd already been through enough pain. They didn't 1:41:01.960 --> 1:41:05.080 want to lose another sister, so she was eventually sentenced 1:41:05.080 --> 1:41:07.760 to life in prison without parole. And that is the 1:41:07.800 --> 1:41:08.800 story of. 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:15.680 Stevie sucks. So this like Sarah fucking Stevie Ollman and 1:41:15.720 --> 1:41:16.479 Sarah Mitchell. 1:41:17.080 --> 1:41:19.360 Yeah, she just was lazy, didn't want to pay for 1:41:19.439 --> 1:41:22.040 stuff and decided I'm gonna kill my sister. 1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:22.920 Psycho. 1:41:24.080 --> 1:41:26.599 You're being chopped apart by her sister in the middle 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:27.759 of the night in her bed. 1:41:28.200 --> 1:41:31.879 Hugh, I know these two are fucked. 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:35.400 Both these crimes, I know, and I had never heard 1:41:35.439 --> 1:41:37.960 of either of them, and like, honestly, both of them, 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:41.000 both of them kind of even though the crime happened 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:43.200 in the sixties, the discovery of the body was in 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:45.840 the late nineties, like two years before this episode aired. 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:50.160 And then same with the ninety seven is when this 1:41:50.280 --> 1:41:53.200 doll stuff, this Sarah and Stevie stuff happened. 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:57.000 So this would be a good movie, honestly. Yeah. 1:41:57.040 --> 1:41:59.040 What's the movie with Jack Black where his mother's and 1:41:59.080 --> 1:42:00.360 the freezer Orange County? 1:42:00.360 --> 1:42:04.120 Oh? In the freezer? Oh, Bernie, Bernie. Yeah, we've talked 1:42:04.120 --> 1:42:04.760 about this movie. 1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:07.439 When I first saw that movie in the movie theater, 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:11.120 I remember not good it And now it's like one 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:11.599 of my favors. 1:42:11.640 --> 1:42:14.040 I do a rewatch over Fears. Yeah, I think I 1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:15.320 need to rewatch it. When I watched it, I was like, 1:42:15.360 --> 1:42:17.719 what's happening? But I liked it. It was like quirky. 1:42:17.960 --> 1:42:20.040 I remember that my mom. But that's a good movie 1:42:20.040 --> 1:42:20.479 to remember. 1:42:20.479 --> 1:42:25.920 If Jack Black shows up in cinema Trix, Oh yeah, okay, 1:42:26.080 --> 1:42:28.439 these are sad. I do think this would be a 1:42:28.439 --> 1:42:34.840 fun movie. Yeah. Yeah, the barrel is sad. You just 1:42:34.880 --> 1:42:37.719 have a barrel and you has no one seen Dexter 1:42:37.800 --> 1:42:40.759 at this point. Clearly, I'm not letting a loose barrel 1:42:40.800 --> 1:42:43.200 in my house. What are you talking about? 1:42:43.280 --> 1:42:45.320 So like, but it's also like what you were saying 1:42:45.320 --> 1:42:50.200 Aboutana Reina, Like what is your point of killing her? 1:42:50.240 --> 1:42:53.519 Your wife knows now, Like I guess, well he's a killer. 1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:57.240 You don't want to with the child, like but you've 1:42:57.280 --> 1:42:59.840 but you've been keeping her in an apartment. Why don't 1:42:59.840 --> 1:43:02.040 you or when she first told you that she was 1:43:02.040 --> 1:43:03.879 pregnant or whatever, if that was Oh, it's control. 1:43:03.960 --> 1:43:06.040 He likes the idea of her being there pregnant, having 1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:07.640 his kid with his factory. 1:43:08.280 --> 1:43:12.280 But once she like, but I don't know why she uh, Yeah. 1:43:12.640 --> 1:43:15.800 It's fucked anyway, no guests today, so we can just 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:18.400 dive right into our postmart. I'm talking about this wild 1:43:18.400 --> 1:43:26.000 episode and the crimes, all right, So. 1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:29.679 I don't know this episode so wild. 1:43:29.800 --> 1:43:31.479 It is one of my favorites, but I don't know 1:43:31.520 --> 1:43:34.280 that there's a big post mortem takeaway of like what 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:38.080 did we learn? Don't kill your sister and steal her identity, 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:44.360 you know, don't. Honestly, I would say, human, if anyone 1:43:44.400 --> 1:43:47.720 wants to bring you to another country, they're gonna entrap you. 1:43:49.040 --> 1:43:51.880 We gotta side. I know people are desperate. Life is hard. 1:43:51.920 --> 1:43:54.559 We want freedoms, we want money, we want to help, 1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:58.400 but they are gonna They're gonna traffic you. Like, no 1:43:58.439 --> 1:44:01.160 one's just bringing you to a Marria from the goodness 1:44:01.240 --> 1:44:03.000 of their heart unless it's me. If you find me 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:06.960 and where in Romania together, you can trust me, I will, 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:11.200 I will get you in. But yeah, I just we 1:44:11.240 --> 1:44:15.000 got but I understand the desperation, but we got no 1:44:15.680 --> 1:44:18.880 no one's no one's doing it for fun, like and 1:44:19.240 --> 1:44:24.599 if if it's your money back guarantee, of course you're 1:44:24.600 --> 1:44:28.600 gonna be indebted. Yeah, I was wondering. I mean, this 1:44:28.720 --> 1:44:33.200 episode scary but also men, you should notice if your 1:44:33.200 --> 1:44:35.880 wife is swapped out for another human being, even if 1:44:35.920 --> 1:44:40.599 they look identical, Like you're married to this woman and 1:44:40.840 --> 1:44:43.519 she's the bitch. Like, that's what's shocking to me. She 1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:46.400 tricked you. You didn't realize it wasn't your dear wife 1:44:46.479 --> 1:44:50.760 for three years. Yet she's the bitch. I know, Like, 1:44:51.520 --> 1:44:53.960 did they make a different noise as you fucked? Like 1:44:54.040 --> 1:44:55.440 I don't even understand. 1:44:55.680 --> 1:44:59.280 Like they also sounded like such different people, Like nothing 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.800 ever slipped. She was like, let's go to Atlantic City 1:45:01.840 --> 1:45:03.360 and gamble, like there was nothing ever. 1:45:03.560 --> 1:45:06.639 Like one girl was like a party animal. The other one, well, 1:45:06.680 --> 1:45:07.280 she wasn't. 1:45:07.400 --> 1:45:10.400 She was trying to just get her sister out. I mean, 1:45:10.400 --> 1:45:12.040 that's what we learned at the end of it. All 1:45:12.200 --> 1:45:16.800 is like that, oh, that wasn't about the nightlife. It 1:45:16.920 --> 1:45:19.719 was about conning men for money to buy her sister 1:45:19.800 --> 1:45:20.880 out of human trafficking. 1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:25.320 But I wonder if that's the case, then why would 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:29.000 the good sister not have just like explain that to 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:31.559 the husband, like, oh, by the way, our other sister 1:45:31.720 --> 1:45:34.040 is like being held and that's why she goes around 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:36.040 dating and all this. She's trying to get him out 1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:38.320 dat do you want to contribute some money to it? 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:40.960 Like do you want to help me get my sister out? 1:45:41.120 --> 1:45:42.360 Like well, I think. 1:45:42.240 --> 1:45:44.160 It's like they didn't want to implicate them because then 1:45:44.200 --> 1:45:46.280 what if they were killed? But also he must know 1:45:46.479 --> 1:45:47.599 he used the service. 1:45:48.520 --> 1:45:50.800 Yes, he used a service and was one of the 1:45:50.800 --> 1:45:53.840 good guys. I guess, like the show guy, he didn't 1:45:53.880 --> 1:45:55.720 realize there was a body swap, you know. 1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:57.160 What I mean. I just feel like. 1:45:58.600 --> 1:46:01.280 Good guys, I'm using good guys is a very low bar, 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:03.960 Like he's not a Slee's ball with a pool table 1:46:04.080 --> 1:46:06.920 telling his wife to like bring service, like you know, 1:46:07.120 --> 1:46:08.240 bring things to the cops. 1:46:08.479 --> 1:46:11.840 But he also still wanted a traditional wife. I mean, 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:14.040 at the end of the day, she's cooking and cleaning 1:46:14.040 --> 1:46:17.880 and raising a child. Like it is a conditional it's 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:19.639 a conditional relationship on the. 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:20.439 Things that you do. 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:22.320 And how quick do you think that guy's gonna be 1:46:22.400 --> 1:46:24.719 back on some other service being like I need help 1:46:24.720 --> 1:46:26.439 get me away. I can't raise this daughter on my 1:46:26.479 --> 1:46:28.120 own and I just kicked up her aunt out of 1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:32.320 our lives, so somebody helped me quick. He's on something, 1:46:32.400 --> 1:46:35.160 He's on another, but then it's on Romanian mingle dot 1:46:35.160 --> 1:46:36.280 com or something. 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:38.559 But like, I also want this aunt to be able 1:46:38.760 --> 1:46:40.800 the aunt, the two girls women to be able to 1:46:40.800 --> 1:46:43.439 see their niece. Like, I hope this fucker doesn't keep 1:46:43.479 --> 1:46:46.000 the niece away. But imagine how confusing. 1:46:46.560 --> 1:46:49.760 Imagine how confusing for her like to be like, this 1:46:49.800 --> 1:46:52.120 is your aunt, your mom died, And then you're like, 1:46:52.280 --> 1:46:54.559 but mom, Like this is the person I've been calling 1:46:54.600 --> 1:46:56.879 mom for the entire time I've been able to create memories. 1:46:57.040 --> 1:46:59.160 Yeah. I think the dad should get over himself and 1:46:59.520 --> 1:47:01.520 next time, maybe don't buy a wife. 1:47:01.680 --> 1:47:05.599 Yeah, or maybe start dating your your sister in law 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:06.439 and see what happened. 1:47:06.800 --> 1:47:07.839 He just was awful. 1:47:07.840 --> 1:47:10.200 It's like you know about their orphanages and abuse and 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:12.680 the trafficking and everything, and you're still just like, how 1:47:12.680 --> 1:47:13.920 do you live with yourself? 1:47:13.960 --> 1:47:16.880 And it's like she clearly lives with a lot of guilt, sir. 1:47:17.000 --> 1:47:20.400 Everything she's done, Yes, everything she's done has been for 1:47:20.439 --> 1:47:21.080 her family. 1:47:22.240 --> 1:47:25.600 Yeah. But I also hated the detectives. They were so against. 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:30.960 Yeah, but I also love an episode where a rare 1:47:31.160 --> 1:47:31.640 orchid is. 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:34.960 What brings down the perp, Like that's that's we got. 1:47:35.000 --> 1:47:37.120 We got a botany expert on the staff, like, I 1:47:37.160 --> 1:47:41.400 love this, I love our kids. They're they're a high 1:47:41.439 --> 1:47:45.479 maintenance flower, true, and I don't even think they're that pretty, 1:47:45.720 --> 1:47:48.320 like it must just be like a floral community thing. 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:50.320 Like they're fine, but I wouldn't do all that effort 1:47:50.560 --> 1:47:53.120 for them. I don't get it. Too many sticks, not 1:47:53.240 --> 1:47:57.840 enough blooms. Yes, absolutely they are, like I think they 1:47:57.880 --> 1:48:00.640 are like a fancy gift like I've been I my 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:02.960 parents have received them. In it it's always like ooh, 1:48:03.280 --> 1:48:04.880 you know, but then it is a lot of fucking 1:48:04.920 --> 1:48:08.720 work anyways, should we get into our mind? I just 1:48:08.760 --> 1:48:09.920 think they're over blown. 1:48:10.160 --> 1:48:10.599 I don't know. 1:48:11.320 --> 1:48:14.240 Yeah, well, except these these orchids look like monkeys. 1:48:14.320 --> 1:48:14.680 They do. 1:48:15.280 --> 1:48:18.240 I like that there's a there's a corpse flower blooming 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.000 at the Huntington Garden soon. Do you know about those? No? 1:48:21.160 --> 1:48:23.040 I only know. Is it the one that like that's 1:48:23.040 --> 1:48:24.400 a flag trap one? I don't know. 1:48:24.920 --> 1:48:28.760 The corpse flower is like this big. There's one at 1:48:28.800 --> 1:48:30.960 the Huntington Garden and it's like supposed to bloom like 1:48:31.080 --> 1:48:31.519 any day. 1:48:31.560 --> 1:48:31.720 Now. 1:48:32.000 --> 1:48:33.720 Again, this is time machine, so maybe it we'll have 1:48:33.720 --> 1:48:37.559 already bloomed. But when they bloom, apparently it smells like 1:48:37.720 --> 1:48:40.759 absolute shit. But they're beautiful, and it looks, it looks. 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:44.040 It happens very quickly, like people are buying. I think 1:48:44.040 --> 1:48:46.400 people are buying tickets to see it. Oh and it 1:48:46.520 --> 1:48:49.400 only okay, it only blooms every seven years, so I 1:48:49.400 --> 1:48:51.080 guess that's why it's a big, a big deal. 1:48:51.280 --> 1:48:53.479 That's why it's a big deal. So well, I'm looking 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:54.120 at this thing. 1:48:54.360 --> 1:48:58.160 And what's cool about this stinky flower that it smells 1:48:58.200 --> 1:48:59.080 different to everyone. 1:48:59.479 --> 1:49:00.160 It's like sele. 1:49:01.600 --> 1:49:05.440 So to some people smells like stinky cheese or boiled cabbage. 1:49:05.560 --> 1:49:08.600 Not bad, to some as garlic. I wouldn't hate that. 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:11.920 But then then it gets dark. Then it's rotting fish 1:49:12.000 --> 1:49:14.640 for some, sweaty socks for others. And then to some 1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:18.680 it's actually a sweet flower stunt, so that's cool. And 1:49:18.720 --> 1:49:23.080 it smells to a tract nighttime pollinators like flesh flies, 1:49:23.560 --> 1:49:29.400 carrion beetles, and sweet bees sweat bees. What needs to 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:32.760 get those nasty, nasty insects out there so that they 1:49:32.800 --> 1:49:34.519 can spread out their seed? 1:49:34.920 --> 1:49:36.800 Really kinky situation. I'll be on. 1:49:36.960 --> 1:49:39.960 Oh there's listen, there's a corpse flower merch shop. I'm 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:40.479 clicking it. 1:49:40.560 --> 1:49:43.720 Okay, all right, all right, okay, let's move on to 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:45.040 our what would Sister Peg do? 1:49:45.400 --> 1:49:45.640 You know? 1:49:45.680 --> 1:49:47.800 This is our weekly segment where we direct you to 1:49:48.040 --> 1:49:51.800 a a article, an organization, something that gives you more 1:49:51.840 --> 1:49:54.200 information about what we talked about in today's episode. But 1:49:54.240 --> 1:49:58.040 let's be honest, like today's episode about you know, killing 1:49:58.200 --> 1:50:01.400 twin sisters and being killed by Romanian diplomats and stuff, 1:50:01.400 --> 1:50:04.200 it like really did not to me have a clear 1:50:04.840 --> 1:50:08.320 angle for charity as we like to lean and what 1:50:08.320 --> 1:50:11.519 would Sister Peg do? And so I decided that since 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:14.360 this episode's coming out July thirtieth, which is back to 1:50:14.400 --> 1:50:16.559 school time is upon us. I hate to say it, 1:50:16.680 --> 1:50:19.360 I wanted to direct you guys towards our instagram where 1:50:19.360 --> 1:50:22.400 we are helping teachers clear their lists. 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:23.320 So if you don't know. 1:50:23.280 --> 1:50:26.360 About this, teachers in a lot of the United States 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:29.200 don't have enough money to buy supplies for their classrooms, 1:50:29.240 --> 1:50:31.120 are not given or not budgeted that and so they 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:33.519 are expected to not expected. But I think if they 1:50:33.520 --> 1:50:36.439 want to have a productive school year, they oftentimes buy 1:50:36.439 --> 1:50:38.439 things out of their own pockets, and many of them 1:50:38.720 --> 1:50:41.960 create a wish list on Amazon and anybody can go 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:46.120 in and just buy something quickly. It gets automatically shipped anonymously, 1:50:46.320 --> 1:50:47.880 or you know, you can put a note but like 1:50:48.040 --> 1:50:52.040 you don't find out where they live to them, and 1:50:52.080 --> 1:50:53.800 then we can help people clear their lists and get 1:50:53.800 --> 1:50:55.360 these kids to stuff that they need. We have so 1:50:55.479 --> 1:50:58.320 many teacher listeners and so we've been doing this the 1:50:58.400 --> 1:51:02.040 last couple of summers. So if you go to our Instagram, 1:51:02.080 --> 1:51:04.720 you'll see a highlight that's called teachers with an exclamation 1:51:04.760 --> 1:51:07.240 point and start at the beginning, and that shows you 1:51:07.280 --> 1:51:09.200 exactly how to share your list in a way that 1:51:09.240 --> 1:51:11.759 we can share it. You need to have a public profile, 1:51:11.800 --> 1:51:13.760 you need to share the link and tag us, and 1:51:13.800 --> 1:51:15.200 then we will share it. And then if you're a 1:51:15.240 --> 1:51:17.880 listener and you have a few extra books, just go 1:51:17.960 --> 1:51:20.200 to one of these lists in our story that in 1:51:20.240 --> 1:51:22.400 the highlight that's where we're saving all of them. You 1:51:22.439 --> 1:51:25.240 can click on the link and just go through. Even 1:51:25.280 --> 1:51:26.920 if you can only afford like a pack of post 1:51:26.960 --> 1:51:29.719 its or thumb tacks or something, I think they would 1:51:29.720 --> 1:51:31.080 appreciate any little amount. 1:51:31.400 --> 1:51:32.679 And we've gotten a lot. 1:51:32.600 --> 1:51:34.880 Of appreciative messages from teachers in the past that you 1:51:34.880 --> 1:51:37.760 guys have been awesome with helping with this, So thank you. 1:51:37.800 --> 1:51:40.920 In advance and that's that's that. 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