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Speaker 3: So I just don't remember it being this cold in Florida.

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Speaker 2: So global cool Sunday. Sunday is like supposed to be

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Speaker 4: And people are gonna say, well, they strike out too much.

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Speaker 2: Did you want wins? That's it can from the Yankees

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Speaker 2: Yankees do a lot of damage off four fifth starters

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Speaker 2: That's how you make your money. In baseball, Okay, nobody

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Speaker 2: By the way, Aaron Judge Scott led, I'm at one point,

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Speaker 1: The beating up on the fourth and fifth starter. Thing

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Speaker 3: It's what you should do.

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Speaker 2: It's what good teams do. It's actually what great teams do.

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Speaker 2: It's what the Dodgers do. It's all the listen, nobody.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I was thinking the postseason, you need you need

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Speaker 4: Right, Look at the stats, the stats from the Blue

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Speaker 2: Who won? That's all that matters. Who ended up winning.

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Speaker 3: One guy plus, what.

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Speaker 1: Let's go over some bed MGM futures and we'll spin

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Speaker 3: Oh it is.

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Speaker 1: It's the Brewers eighty four and a half wins. They

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Speaker 3: Even if they do, you'd still hit on your over.

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Speaker 3: What about thirteen games?

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Speaker 2: You know why they did this. They did this because

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Speaker 2: So normally I would say under, just because you know

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Speaker 2: They've lost this, they've lost that. But you know what's screwing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going over because they go over every year. So

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Speaker 4: It's a much easier over now because it was I

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Speaker 1: Really, so you think they'll win eighty five or eighty six,

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Speaker 4: These days, I think I think they're right at the

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Speaker 3: Eighty three wins got you a playoff spot last year.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that it looks different. I think eighty six.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a chance eighty six doesn't get you in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've had so many over unders, we've gone over in

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Speaker 2: Well? The teams you've you've given us so far have

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start digging for unders for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's give me the White Sox eighty five,

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Speaker 3: Well, no, not at the mid eighties.

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Speaker 2: We're just you said, they're all mid eighties. Give the

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying on the mid eighties team, the legit

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Speaker 2: Aren't gonna win eighty five games. But I'm saying over

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Speaker 3: Well, that's not how the game works.

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much how you play the game.

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Speaker 2: That is playing the game.

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Speaker 3: That is playing the game, but that's not really playing

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not throwing cash down on the Brewers

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Speaker 2: How do you know? I'm not telling you what I

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Speaker 1: That's what we do this segment every day.

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Speaker 2: I just said, and I just said, I just said, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's safe to say this a j since we've

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Speaker 2: You have bad opinions. You know what they do that.

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Speaker 1: Sure disagree on that, but I would say when we

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Speaker 3: Say that the Brewers will not be on your list.

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Speaker 3: Either way. This is not a high confidence.

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Speaker 2: Power for you. No, this is a very low confidence Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See, I just want to make sure we keep doing

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Speaker 1: We are telling you which one we really like and why,

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Speaker 1: or if it's close, we're telling you why. So maybe

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Speaker 1: you feel really good about a team and then we

436
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: feel okay, and then you feel better about that pick,

437
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: or we both feel great about something which rarely happens

438
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: these days, and then.

439
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Speaker 3: Feel a little bit more comfortable that way.

440
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Speaker 1: My point is, Kratz, I think I've done this with

441
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Speaker 1: at least half of our over unders. I don't love them,

442
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: and you leave them alone. You just pick a few

443
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Speaker 1: that you like and then you follow those. It's almost

444
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Speaker 1: like a fantasy baseball team that you put together for

445
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: the year. Right, you've got your favorite team, and then

446
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: for me, I enjoy this aspect. I'll pick a few

447
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: horses and I try and usually do. If I'm doing three,

448
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: which is my average on this, I'll take two overs

449
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: and an under, and then I follow it all year

450
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: like a horse race.

451
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Speaker 3: That's all I have.

452
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Speaker 2: What's your over? What's your vector? Victor, I'm not.

453
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Speaker 3: But I am usually the guy.

454
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Speaker 1: I picked the bruis to when the division last year,

455
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Speaker 1: and I yes, yes.

456
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Speaker 3: I did last week.

457
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Speaker 2: No, I picked the Reds.

458
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Speaker 3: Last year, you picked the Reds. I picked the Brewers.

459
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Speaker 3: And my reason why I.

460
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Speaker 1: Had I don't remember if I had the Cubs or

461
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Speaker 1: the red I think I had the Cubs. And last second,

462
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Speaker 1: when we actually submitted our picks, I went Brewers and

463
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Speaker 1: my explanation was, I don't see it, but they're going

464
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Speaker 1: to do it.

465
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Speaker 2: See that's confident.

466
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Speaker 3: Thank you. But I had to.

467
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Speaker 1: I just I felt like somehow they were still going

468
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Speaker 1: to pull it off. I guess the only thing I

469
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Speaker 1: was looking at was is this division that good? And

470
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Speaker 1: I think last year we learned not really, I mean

471
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Speaker 1: it was okay. The Brewers were great, and then the

472
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: rest of the teams were either okay or terrible? Is

473
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Speaker 1: the division that much better? The Cubs are better, for sure.

474
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Speaker 1: I like the offseason they've had. I think they're going

475
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Speaker 1: to be a real threat. You lose Freddy P. You

476
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Speaker 1: add Edward Cabrera. I'm saying the brewis lose Freddie P.

477
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Speaker 1: You add Edward Cabrera, You remade your bullpen that was

478
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: already pretty good. But I think that they made some

479
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: pretty serious additions that will help them. And then of

480
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: course the Alex Bragman signing. The Cubs should be a

481
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Speaker 1: better team this coming season. Pirates should be a little

482
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Speaker 1: bit better.

483
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Speaker 3: Red's probably better.

484
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Speaker 2: I don't know better.

485
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Speaker 3: Cardinals are going to be way worse.

486
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Speaker 2: I just don't listen. I think the Brewers are great.

487
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Speaker 2: We love Pat Murphy. I just don't know that they

488
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Speaker 2: win ninety seven games again.

489
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Speaker 1: No no chance. I mean, I'm taking the under on

490
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Speaker 1: that one, but eighty four and a half to ninety seven,

491
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Speaker 1: it's a big gap. I think I would not be

492
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Speaker 1: surprised if they went in the high eighties. I don't

493
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: think most people would be surprised. Brandon Woods might.

494
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they win

495
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: in the high eighties. I wouldn't be surprised if they

496
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Speaker 2: go five hundred.

497
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Speaker 3: Me too, that's where they stand.

498
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Speaker 2: That's what a swing that they could have. Let's say

499
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Speaker 2: they lose somebody to injury. God forbid, they lose somebody,

500
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Speaker 2: and I know, you know, Churio or yell at your

501
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, whoever you wanted, Wilson, William Contrere's Wilson, Sorry,

502
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Speaker 2: William Contrera's. They lose somebody, that is like they can't

503
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: really figure out a way to make up for their loss.

504
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Speaker 2: Then you could see him really falling off, but then

505
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: you could see everything comes together again. And I'm winning

506
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 2: eighty eight, eighty nine games. So it's a I don't know.

507
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Speaker 2: They're the one team that has probably for me, bigger

508
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: swings than almost anybody else.

509
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Speaker 1: And as crazy as it is, that's only like a

510
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: six or seven game swing. Right you're saying, I could

511
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Speaker 1: see them being five hundred. That's eighty one wins. We're

512
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Speaker 1: talking about. Can they get to eighty seven or eighty

513
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Speaker 1: eight wins?

514
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Speaker 3: Close?

515
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: That's how the game works. Okay, let's tell everybody how

516
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: they can do a little damage.

517
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Speaker 3: Right now.

518
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: If they're not looking at baseball, any sport odds boost

519
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Speaker 1: token to use it at a wager made up of

520
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Speaker 1: bets from any sport to your bet slit activate the token.

521
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: If you win your wager made with the token, you

522
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Speaker 1: get extra winnings in unrestricted bonus dollars. Gambling problem or concern,

523
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Speaker 1: there's help. Call one eight hundred gambling.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

525
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Speaker 3: That's what he said.

526
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

527
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: That's what he said.

528
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: Hey, there was a sit down conversation with Mark de

529
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Speaker 1: Rosa and Ken Rosenthal.

530
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Speaker 3: Ken asked him about Team USA. What's it looking like.

531
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Speaker 1: We'll pick out a few notable parts of the conversation.

532
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Speaker 3: Number one.

533
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Speaker 1: Ken asked him about the restrictions on pitchers and if

534
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Speaker 1: that has changed, and how he's going to handle it.

535
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: I remember De ro talking about how he wanted to

536
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Speaker 1: handle it differently this time around, because it is very

537
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: difficult to coordinate with teams. Team USA has this tougher

538
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: than everyone else. For some reason, it is tougher for

539
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: teams with American players to let them go. You think

540
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Crats, We can start there before I even

541
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: dive into this. I think it's a tougher conversation when

542
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: you are the Dodgers and you're trying to hold back

543
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: they're not. But if you're trying to hold back Yamamoto,

544
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: it sounds like they might want to hold back Otani

545
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, sorry, we're playing for Team Japan. I

546
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: think for some reason there's a stigma with the USA

547
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Speaker 1: team with pitchers.

548
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Speaker 3: Do you agree with me aj that it's tougher for

549
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Speaker 3: the USA.

550
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Speaker 2: Guys, yes than other countries.

551
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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I agree.

552
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Speaker 2: I agree with that they're for.

553
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Speaker 1: Some reason, it's like this is my country, and then

554
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: for USA it's like it's not that it's not a

555
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: USA pride thing, it's just the teams feel more entitled

556
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: to say no, so.

557
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: They're able to say no because maybe the like I'm

558
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 4: not sure the word I'm looking for, Like there's more

559
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: like honor in the Japanese pitchers pitching you're saying, Or

560
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: there's more honor in a Dominican pitcher pitching for the

561
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: DR Is that what you're saying.

562
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: I think it's clearly run by the US.

563
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: It's a US event, and for some reason, being that

564
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: there's so many players from the States, they just feel

565
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: like they can say no to their pitcher not participating.

566
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Speaker 3: I think it also steam rolls a j Do you

567
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: feel that too, Where it's.

568
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: Like we gonna say there's more options for USA, I

569
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: feel like and so because they have more options, I

570
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: think they're more inclined to say no. Not that not

571
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: that it's right or wrong, but I agree. Mark even

572
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: wrote this in the chat. There's more players, I ad,

573
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: more pitchers available, and I and I think that that's

574
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: why teams are a little bit more incin like a well, Schoobo.

575
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: If we say no to Schoobl, they can just go

576
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: grab somebody else from another organization because there's more options,

577
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: whereas Japan doesn't have as many options that we know of.

578
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: In the US right, especially in Major League Baseball, Dominican

579
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: is all. The Dominican guys are like, I'm going to

580
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: play for my team at all costs. Venezuela the same way,

581
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: and a lot of Americans feel the same way. It's

582
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: just there's more options. I think maybe because we know

583
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: their names. I don't want to say that USA has

584
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: all more stars than other countries at all, because it's

585
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: not true. Shohy Yamamoto, Dominican team has loaded. Venezuelan team

586
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: is good. A lot of teams are good. But I

587
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: just think that there's more options, especially from the pitching side.

588
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, when dro Is

589
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: asked about the pitching restrictions, he said, it's still going

590
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: to be there. That's why I tried to build it

591
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: out a little differently so guys had roles. It's also

592
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: why we added Clayton Kershaw. You go back to the

593
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: Mexico game. Last time around, we got caught. There was

594
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: a scenario where Brady Singer had to cover some innings

595
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: for us, even though it wasn't optimal for him because

596
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Speaker 1: we weren't going to be able to cover the next

597
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: next day. And note that Brady Singer, through fifty three

598
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: pitches in two innings, gave up four runs in that

599
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: Mexico game for Team USA, So that stands out. Do

600
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: we have any comments there? Clayton Kershaw clearly has a

601
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: role mop up man and he'll crush it.

602
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: That's great. Kind of gonna be like.

603
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, kicking back with a beer, watch the

604
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: game and then up you need me. I'll go as

605
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: many pitches as you want. There's no tomorrow and there's

606
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: no insurance policy.

607
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: I love it. It's a great role. It's a great role.

608
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: They should do this. Let crowds are I be the

609
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: third catcher and you know there's a blowout. Hey, you

610
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: guys get to run out there and hang out and

611
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: catch a couple of innings, you know, and against some

612
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: team that either is winning or losing by a lot.

613
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in d Ro. Call me, call me.

614
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll be your third catcher. Heck,

615
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: I might even catch a bullpen. What's a bullpen?

616
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's allowed to call you, but yes,

617
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: it would be great.

618
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Speaker 4: I honestly think, Like my mind when when I read

619
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Speaker 4: this earlier this morning, my mind went to if kers

620
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Speaker 4: Shaw wasn't him, who would they have gone to, Like

621
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Speaker 4: would they have been like, hey Max, I know you're

622
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: not signed with a team yet. Hey Verlander, I know

623
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: you're not signed with a team yet, but we'd love

624
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Speaker 4: for you to be our.

625
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Mop up guy.

626
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Speaker 4: I get it they're still playing this year, but like

627
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Speaker 4: this role, I don't know, that's it's tough, you say,

628
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: lance Lynn.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys like lance Lynn might get a phone call.

630
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: If Clayton was a better extention.

631
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Speaker 2: Seriously, exception right, they could have pud Rodriguez on Puerto

632
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: Rico as a third catcher. Yachty right, I guess Yachty's managing.

633
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: He could be player player manager. Dominican could have like

634
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: two holes come in to do something. Crats fantasy. It

635
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: is why not we woult to. It's not a doesn't

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: it's not a you know, it's guys aren't getting paid,

637
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: like their their livelihood on this. It's it's an exhibition.

638
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I thought, it's like the all start game. You should

639
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: do the Golden at bat, try all kinds of crazy stuff.

640
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: It's not an exhibition. It's not an exhibition. All the

641
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: talk when you put that uniform on, when you play

642
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: for Team USA, we are here to win. We are

643
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: here to do what it takes to win. And so

644
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: this is where I think the WBC, Hey, it's great

645
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: for the US. They're able to have Kershall in that role,

646
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: and I think that is a very valuable role. WBC

647
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: needs to look into like that flexible, more of like

648
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: a winner ball type of roster flexibility, just because every

649
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: team is going to have these restrictions on pitchers, not

650
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: just for Team USA, for other teams, for other countries. Also,

651
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: you can't have you don't want somebody throwing fifty four

652
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: pitches in two innings. No player would do that. They

653
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 4: even change those rules in spring training where now you

654
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: can throw twenty I think it's twenty pitches. You can

655
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: come out and then you can come back in and

656
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: start it again, like the those are exhibition games. In

657
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: my opinion, these are not exhibition games, and you're not

658
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: putting a team together as an exhibition type of game.

659
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: They don't mean anything. I mean, listen. Do they want

660
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: to win, absolutely, but they don't mean anything in the

661
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: grand Guys aren't making their livelihood of what they do

662
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: off Team USA. Listen, is it awesome? One hundred percent.

663
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: I love love, love, love love love the WBC. I

664
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: love MLB players in the Olympics. I like all that stuff.

665
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: I want all that stuff because playing for your team

666
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: your country should matter. But at the end of the day,

667
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: when I say exhibition games, I mean, guys aren't getting

668
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: their salary from this. These stats don't matter when they

669
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: go to arbitration. These aren't you know, the owners of

670
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: the teams aren't aren't going like, oh man, I can't

671
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: believe that. You know, Trey Turner hit that Grand Slam

672
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: against Venezuela in twenty twenty three. Let's pay them five

673
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: million dollars extra. Like, No, this is exhibition as in Pride,

674
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: just like the All Star Game is an exhibition. You

675
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: want to win. But that doesn't mean it's not an

676
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: exhibition game. Mm hmmmm.

677
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I think it's looked at as importantly as a playoff game.

678
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Agreed, Mmmm, MLB as an MLB playoff game.

679
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not looked at that by front office.

680
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: Okay, like MLB playoff game. Then we should do it

681
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: at a different time of the year and run it

682
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 2: where teams have full access to all the pitching. If

683
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: you're saying that this is the level of an MLB

684
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: playoff game, then let's run this in the middle of

685
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: the summer when everybody's hot. This is as close as

686
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: you get.

687
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is, but don't trust that.

688
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean it.

689
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying it with my chest.

690
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: It's It's as important the players take it as seriously

691
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: as a playoff game with their performance. They are not

692
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: looking at it like the All Star and the All

693
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Star Game is Funsie, This is not also.

694
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Your can't it affects your Actually, the also game affects

695
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: your career more than the WBC does because at the

696
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: end of your career, people say he's a seven time

697
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: All Star. They don't say he was a three time

698
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: WBC player. They say he was a three time All Star.

699
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: He was a gold medal winner.

700
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: But that's that's regular team.

701
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're talking about the event itself, not the

702
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: lead up to it, not getting selected to the event,

703
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: the event itself. I think four players means as much

704
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: as a postseason game WBC.

705
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

706
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Let's do it in the

707
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: middle of the season. I'm fine with that. They're going

708
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: to try to do that with the Olympics.

709
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Listen, I love the WBC. Nobody loves it more than me.

710
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: I love it. I went, I went to a game.

711
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: I went to the Venezuela USA game as one of

712
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: the best games I've ever been to. I'm not I'm

713
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: not saying that to degrade it. I'm just saying, in

714
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of people's career, these games don't mean

715
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: the same as a playoff game.

716
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: I disagree. I think it means as much as game.

717
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: Okay, can you tell me who gave up the home

718
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: run to keyk Hernandez this year in the Game seven,

719
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean not Key Hernanda. Sorry to uh Mickey Rowe

720
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: in Game seven of the World Series.

721
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna play a game with with with my ass

722
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: on calls all day.

723
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: I know that it was Jeff Hoffman, but I'm saying

724
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: I know what you're about to do.

725
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me about a specific instance during the

726
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic from many years ago.

727
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 3: That's not fair, is that what you're doing?

728
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: Why? Yeah? Now, who gave up the Grand Slam to

729
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: trade Turner for Venezuel?

730
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: Who gave up?

731
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: Who gave up literally anything in twenty twenty four in

732
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: any game of any kind, including World Series, I don't remember.

733
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Show me a postseason that's I gave up a huge

734
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: home run twenty twenty four. Go to the postseason. Who

735
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: gave up a huge home run? We probably can figure

736
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: it out quicker than you can tell me who gave

737
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: up the Grand Slam to trade Turner?

738
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: Because it wasn't someone good, Nope.

739
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Because it's not as important as the playoffs. It was

740
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: a dude that had his jersey completely Convedo, the guy

741
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: with the angels in a one button left. Yeah, exactly.

742
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: I remember Trout versus Otani as much as any Okay,

743
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: since I've been alive.

744
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: Yes, you remember that, Yes, because it was teammates, the

745
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: whole deal. I get that one. And plus it was

746
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: the win, that the whole thing that was awesome. I

747
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: loved it. I hope it happens again. I hope it

748
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: comes up again where I don't know who's pitching, but

749
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: teammates are pitching, and Otani's up or trial or not Trout,

750
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: but Judge is up and he's facing his teammate with

751
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: the w b C on line. I think that stuff

752
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: is unbelievable.

753
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: Good debate.

754
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Next part, they still have one spot open. I know

755
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: many players listen to this show. Now is your chance

756
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: to call Mark du Rosa if you have his number.

757
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Ken asked about the last spot. He said who what

758
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: do you want? Someone versatile and he said, we're gonna

759
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: look at it. I had my eye on Cody Bellinger.

760
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: I thought Bellinger would serve a perfect purpose for it,

761
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: but him signing with the Yankees, going through everything, he

762
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: has decided not to do it.

763
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: And I completely understand that. So someone in that vein, Okay.

764
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: Someone that can play all over the field for you.

765
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: You need somebody that can play multiple positions in case

766
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 2: something happens.

767
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: It's not. It's a great idea. Here's the issue. Here's

768
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: the issue is Cody Bellinger's up here. That's why he

769
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 4: got the money that he got. Most guys that play

770
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: all over the field are down here and they don't

771
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: want to go to their trying to like scrap and

772
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: call not to make the team, but to like solidify

773
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 4: themselves on the team. Like let's say, like Ernie Clement

774
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: type of player. I think Ernie Clement's already on the team.

775
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: Am I correct on that?

776
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

777
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: Anyway find out I don't remember, Yeah, to you go

778
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: to this and play two of the eight games or

779
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: nine games that are played in the WBC, or do

780
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 4: you stay back and play in your spring training games

781
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: to get ready for the season. That's the hardest discussion

782
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: I think with finding this last player. It has to

783
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 4: be a guy who can handle all these positions. Most

784
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 4: likely it will be a veteran, and most likely Cody

785
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: Belger doesn't doesn't need his thirty five to fifty at

786
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: bats in spring training. He could he could possibly get

787
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 4: them playing because he's good enough to play every single

788
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: day and bounce around all those positions.

789
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: Clement is playing cal Brendan Donovan.

790
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: Darry have a second basement. Does he want to play sparingly.

791
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

792
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: Four Team USA or does he want to go to

793
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 4: spring training And the team's like, hey, we don't, although

794
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: it could it could raise elevate his trade status. A

795
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 4: team could watch him in these as AJ call exhibition games.

796
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: He hits a couple, gets a couple of big hits,

797
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: and they're like, all right, that's it.

798
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: Put it over the line. We want to see we

799
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: want to trade for Brandon Donovan. Nope, you know what

800
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: they're gonna say. Ernie Clement raked in the postseason. That's

801
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: why he's on Team USA, not because he did anything.

802
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: If he didn't. If if Ernie Clement did not have

803
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: the postseason that he had, he would not be on

804
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Team USA. I'm sorry, I agree, you can. You can.

805
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: So then you just made my point that the playoffs

806
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: are more important. Nobody said they weren't more important. Everybody

807
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: good said on the same level, the same level, just

808
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: that the WBC is not an exhibition.

809
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: They are on the level of playoffs, They're not more important.

810
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 4: You play the whole season, played their whole career to

811
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: be in the playoffs. That was not the argument at all.

812
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 4: You called them an exhibition game, exhibition games, which couldn't

813
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: be farther from the truth. The All Star Game is

814
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: an exhibition game. This is true international base game.

815
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: Give this to the day I died. The All Star

816
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Game is more important to your career than WBC is.

817
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: So that changed money. You can't change my lot because

818
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: when you go to the lot, when you go to

819
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: the individual career, it's more important.

820
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean crap.

821
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying it doesn't matter. I'm not saying this it matters,

822
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: but people don't want to win.

823
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: WBC is much more important to most players. They would

824
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: have one WBC title than if there's no money involved.

825
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: They I think that's more important.

826
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: Okay, winning You just had the Hall We just had

827
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame debate, right, and all Star games?

828
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: How many All Star Games you made? Is not They

829
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: don't say, Well, man Andrew Jones played for the Netherlands

830
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: and the WBC when he was forty five years old.

831
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: They say he made eight All Star Games or whatever

832
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: it was. So no, that's not right.

833
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: You're talking about individuals stuff though these are individuals.

834
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's good. That's how you get paid though in

835
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: your career that at the end of your career.

836
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: I'm not just talking about money.

837
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Did you win a World Series? Yes? Did you win

838
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: a World Series? Yes or no? Yes? Okay? Did you

839
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: make the All Star Game? Yes? Right? Those are the

840
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: questions you get asked more than anything. Did you win

841
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: a World Series? Yes or no?

842
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: Did you ever series that much? For Hall of Fame?

843
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me?

844
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: I don't think you think That's One of the first

845
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: questions that they ask is if a player.

846
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: How did you do in the postseason? How did you

847
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: do in the Why do you think Andy Pettittts got

848
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: so much much love? But yes, win World Series? On

849
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: the back of your baseball card, at no point will

850
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: it ever say he hit three eighty two in the WBC.

851
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: It's a It'll give you your postseason stats, it'll give

852
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: you your regular season stats, but it'll never say he

853
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: did this in the I'm sorry, listen I again. I love, love,

854
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: love the WBC. I love it. I think it's freaking

855
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: awesome for the game, for the players. I love the emotion.

856
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: I love when dudes rip their shirt off after they strike,

857
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: guys out, throw their bats, everything they do all their stuff.

858
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: When the Italians have the first cappuccino machine, the team

859
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Israel had the was the stuff guy in the thing? Like,

860
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 2: all that stuff is unbelievably cool, right, but it's still

861
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: an exhibition. It's not real games. Now do they mean

862
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: as much? Absolutely to the players, but on the grand

863
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 2: scheme of things, they are on a lower level.

864
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: They mean more to most of the countries around the world.

865
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: And the whole reason I brought this up was that

866
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: general managers don't give a crap and if it was

867
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: up to them, nobody would play. And that's why Team

868
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: USA has to fight through a stigma with their pitchers.

869
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: That was my only point.

870
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I understand it's not helping your Hall of Fame case

871
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: very much, but the players treat it like the Olympics,

872
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: and the Olympics is very important.

873
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: This is all we got as baseball players. It's all

874
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: we got, right, this is the start of the Olympics.

875
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: Not to start another conversation, do the Cardinals let Brendan

876
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: Donovan go and play.

877
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Because of the fact that he could be on the block?

878
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: Yes, they do.

879
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: And technically you're not allowed to tell someone no, you

880
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: can just make a suggestion. I think it's much more

881
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: difficult to make a suggestion to a position player. Pitching

882
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: is the problem. Logan Webb told the Giants, sorry about it,

883
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm going anyway. But in most cases, I haven't heard

884
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: of many position players being denied by their team, aside

885
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: from insurance.

886
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: That's all too Vay Korea insuring.

887
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh the team that was the team denying me going,

888
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: And I'm still kind of mad about.

889
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 3: It, just because I said I'm going.

890
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, at this time, we look at this time, I

891
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: understood why we just won the World Series. You know,

892
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: I caught one hundred and fifty games that year. It

893
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: was the first one, so nobody really knew how important

894
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: it was, right, nobody knew what it would become where

895
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: it is now, right, And that was the team that

896
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: had Griffy and Chipper and Alex Rodriguez and Jeter and

897
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: I think Roger Clemens and all these guys are on this.

898
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: It was the first one. Nobody realized what it would become.

899
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: And the White said no, and I understood, And but

900
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: I wish I would have gotten to do it, because

901
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: I love the USA and I would have loved it.

902
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: Put USA on my chest. One of my big regrets

903
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: I never got to play for the for the you

904
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: in the United States Baseball team. Wasn't my fall. It

905
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: just didn't work out.

906
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: And that's why here, well, no, if he looks back,

907
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: you would have said no. You would have told his team, no,

908
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm going.

909
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: But I know this again. This was the first one.

910
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: There was no retailing. It was you don't have a choice,

911
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Buck Martinez, you can't go.

912
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: We're a current player. You would have said, right now

913
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.

914
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: I had said if I had, if I had a

915
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: guaranteed contract and I had all the things lined up,

916
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: and I already had like like Logan Webb has guaranteed

917
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: contract and he has all these things locked up already,

918
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: I would have been like, I'm going. I don't care.

919
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: I'll take my own insurance out on myself if I

920
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: have to.