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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. It is Friday. I hope all of you

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Speaker 2: are having a fabulous early start to the weekend as

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Speaker 2: you hang out with us wherever you may be across

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Speaker 2: this great country. I am Clay Travisy is Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 2: and we have got a bevy of stories to dive

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Speaker 2: into with you today. The Who has declared that the

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Speaker 2: COVID pandemic is officially over. Democrats across the United States

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Speaker 2: wailing in tandem over COVID being officially tossed on the curb.

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Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau is concerned that his fifteen year old son

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Speaker 2: is being exposed to too much misogyny online. There's a

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Speaker 2: penis in the lawn where Prince Charles, I guess King

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Speaker 2: Charles now will celebrate his coronation. How do you respond

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Speaker 2: to a gigantic penis that is in the lawn of

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Speaker 2: your celebratory festival. We will discuss have some fun with that.

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Speaker 2: Media batters ongoing battle over Tucker Carlson's videos. Who is responsible?

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Speaker 2: Fox says it isn't them? Is this a huge game

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Speaker 2: of who did it? Will discuss Maderna CEO made over

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Speaker 2: four hundred million dollars off of your taxpayer dollars for

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Speaker 2: his worthless For the most part, COVID shot and the

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Speaker 2: continued fallout over a marine who choked a man who'd

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Speaker 2: been arrested forty times on the New York City subway

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Speaker 2: will give you the latest on that. But this story

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Speaker 2: is I think paramount right now. We have discussed the

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Speaker 2: fact for years now on this program that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: isn't cognitively capable of being President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: He just simply does not have the ability. Every single

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Speaker 2: day his dementia seems to ratchet up. He can barely

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Speaker 2: walk up the stairs physically, mentally. This is a man

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Speaker 2: who can't do the job. Politico had a story in

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Speaker 2: the last week that said, essentially, the White House only

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Speaker 2: will do events from ten am to four pm, and

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Speaker 2: he's being challenged. Last week, we had Robert F. Kennedy

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Speaker 2: Junior on this program, and many of you responded very

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Speaker 2: fondly to that interview because rfk Junior sounds like a

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Speaker 2: sane person, unlike the mass insanity that has taken over

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. And what they are trying to do

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Speaker 2: is quite clear. If you thought they hid Biden in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty when they legitimately could cite COVID and that's

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Speaker 2: why he decided to run for president from his basement.

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Speaker 2: They're going to try to do effectively the same thing

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. And even worse than that, they

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Speaker 2: are not even going to allow Joe Biden to be

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Speaker 2: on the stage with RFK Junior or Marianne Williamson or

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Speaker 2: anybody else, maybe Joe Manchin who decides to challenge him.

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Speaker 1: We've known this all long, though. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 1: way that the systems, as I've been saying, they think

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is their best shot. Everything else is

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Speaker 1: completely irrelevant, meaning what is fair, what's right for the party,

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Speaker 1: or whatever power, that's all that matters. Joe Biden's the incumbent.

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Speaker 1: They will, they will Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders the situation,

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Speaker 1: they will super delegate this thing if they have to.

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Speaker 2: So the DNC is protecting Biden, and we've already talked

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Speaker 2: about this could lead into Joe Biden saying, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: not even going to debate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you want to put it in red.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you will I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that he will debate Donald Trump on the president.

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Speaker 2: The only way I think he debates Trump, and that's

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Speaker 2: presuming that Trump is the twenty twenty four nominee for Republicans,

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Speaker 2: Buck is if they're getting data that shows that independent

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Speaker 2: voters view that as such a weakness that they think

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Speaker 2: his poor performance on the debate stage would hurt them

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Speaker 2: less than refusing to go at all.

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Speaker 1: I also think that they're unlikely to view any possible

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Speaker 1: way for Trump to get, you know, to to win

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Speaker 1: we've got Julie Kelly on later later in the program,

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Speaker 1: the seditious conspiracy conviction now of a number of the

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Speaker 1: Proud Boys means I think they're going to bring us.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask Julie this. Remember she came on this show

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Speaker 1: in August of last year, I think it was right

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Speaker 1: around the mar A Lago documents raid, and she didn't

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Speaker 1: specify what they would be. But federal charges against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: That's what we asked about fed because we've always known

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Speaker 1: always been in the background. But a federal felony criminal

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have her on now because because if

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Speaker 1: in this reality, and where we are now that there

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Speaker 1: has been a conviction of a number of Proud Boys,

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Speaker 1: I believe one of them wasn't even in DC that day.

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Speaker 1: sets the groundwork for if you have a conspiracy, who

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Speaker 1: is and it's an implied conspiracy based on the court documents,

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Speaker 1: who is the head of the conspiracy? They're going to

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Speaker 1: say it is Donald Trump, which brings me to I

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Speaker 1: think that not only they're going to federally charge him,

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Speaker 1: but their hope is that they will be able to

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Speaker 1: lock up the former president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know now based on how the thing in

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Speaker 2: New York City, the state charges, they've officially requested a

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Speaker 2: trial in February. In March of twenty twenty four, so

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Speaker 2: we know Trump is not scheduled to be back in

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Speaker 2: But they want the trial buck legitimately in the middle

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Speaker 2: bet they schedule it for March because the Republican nomination

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Speaker 2: could already be set by March. Just remember, they don't

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Speaker 2: want to knock him out of running. They want to

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Speaker 2: fundamentally weaken him while also guaranteeing that he is the nominee.

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Speaker 2: So if the schedule is, hey, we're gonna have this

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Speaker 2: won the Republican nomination by March.

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Speaker 1: They're really refining the Russia collusion strategy against Trump. It

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Speaker 1: didn't matter that it was all a lie, that it

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Speaker 1: was a fabrication, that the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for

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Speaker 1: media to push the whole lie. They realized what was

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Speaker 1: the primary opposition to Donald Trump for certainly the first

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Speaker 1: he was president office. It wasn't based on policy. It

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Speaker 1: was the Russia collusion lie. And they had a special

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Speaker 1: counsel that was looming in the background of that administration,

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Speaker 1: grinding people down with the gears of bureaucracy. Same thing

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Speaker 1: is going to apply here to your point about when

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Speaker 1: they've set the when they set this process, this criminal

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Speaker 1: process in New York City with Alvin Bragg and Trump's team,

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Speaker 1: this is they want the federal government to step in

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Speaker 1: and take over the trial because they're claiming that the

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Speaker 1: alleged conduct happened while Trump was president, and therefore it's

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Speaker 1: a federal issue. I don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But that is the That is the claim that they are,

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Speaker 1: That is the motion they've put forward before the court.

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Speaker 1: But all that they don't have to prove him guilty, right.

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Speaker 1: The point is all they have to do is instead

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Speaker 1: trail and say, look at Joe Biden, Look what a

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Speaker 1: clown is, Joe Biden's gonna be able to say which

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Speaker 1: one of us is in court, which one of us

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Speaker 1: is having to sit around for hours at a time

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Speaker 1: in conference with lawyers, and you can say, oh, but

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Speaker 1: we all know what this is do independent voters do

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Speaker 1: the exhausted swing voters of America know what's really going on.

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Speaker 1: That's the game the Democrats are playing.

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Speaker 2: And it's important to note again, I think they'll ultimately

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Speaker 2: end up settling for a trial in March of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. If you look at the primary calendar, by

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Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty four, we will know who the

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Speaker 2: Republican nominee is. So they're going to put they believe

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Speaker 2: he's inn on trial in New York. Then they'll stack

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Speaker 2: Fulton County case, the Georgia allegations, and then they'll also

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Speaker 2: stack the federal allegations, which we believe will come. And

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Speaker 2: so essentially they will have Donald Trump in a courtroom March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October,

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Speaker 2: all leading up to an election in November. And for

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Speaker 2: everybody out there who is listening to us, is is

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Speaker 2: that going to make independent voters more likely to vote

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Speaker 2: for him? If Trump is in a courtroom Monday to Friday,

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Speaker 2: hops on a plane and tries to fly to Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: It is a it is unlike anything we have ever

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Speaker 2: seen before what they are doing to Trump. And the

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Speaker 2: reality is they believe, I'm just telling you what they believe.

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Speaker 2: They believe that this will simultaneously guarantee Trump the nomination

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Speaker 2: and weaken him to such an extent with independent voters

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Speaker 2: that there's no way he can win.

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Speaker 1: They're setting this up to be Joe Biden four more years,

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Speaker 1: the guy you know, the name you know, like Jeff Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the name you know, and the guy who's being prosecuted

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Speaker 1: in a bunch of different criminal courts right now. That's

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Speaker 1: all it's going to be. That's the way they're looking

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Speaker 1: to play this game. They're not gonna what is the

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Speaker 1: record that Joe Biden's going to stay And there's no

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Speaker 1: from a lot of issues. But they just break this

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Speaker 1: down to the simple Joe Biden is the president. The

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Speaker 1: other guy is going in and out of criminal courts,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's why, that's the whole play. And you

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Speaker 1: see right now that no one's and anyone's thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: judges are going to throw this out. Someone's gonna stop this.

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Speaker 1: No one's going to stop this that no one's stepping

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland and therefore Joe Biden. The fix is in

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Speaker 1: with this whole thing, and people are asking, what can

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Speaker 1: we do about that? I think that's a fascinating question.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what can be done about this yet.

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Speaker 1: I think that obviously winning got to find a way

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Speaker 1: to win anyway. But the process is the punishment, that's

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Speaker 1: the issue. The challenge is just by Trump having to

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if he speaks to media that

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Speaker 1: five percent of media, what do you think they're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about. Are you worried about going to prison? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be the first indicted former president?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's really best for the country, sir,

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Speaker 1: that you're running, considering the multiple criminal indictments you run.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can sit here and write the script

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Speaker 1: in advance. Yeah, And I don't know how we get

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Speaker 1: around this net. We were talking before about you know,

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Speaker 1: they weaponize part of the system against Trump. Now they're

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Speaker 1: weaponizing a much broader swap of it against Trump, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what the counter strike really

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Speaker 1: what we're heading into. I think this is where we're going.

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Speaker 2: This is why it's brilliant in a devious and absolutely

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Speaker 2: awful way. They believe, and I think they're correct that

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Speaker 2: Republicans will rally around Trump when they bring charges against him.

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Speaker 2: We've already seen evidence this is true, and simultaneously, Independence

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Speaker 1: As you know, yesterday we told you about the uh

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Speaker 2: This is how we got to where we are. Yes,

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Speaker 2: be that kind of charge. Because here, this idea that

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Speaker 2: act that it could have elevated to murder, I think

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Speaker 2: is laughably absurd just based off what we've seen so far.

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Speaker 1: Also, my understanding is, and we're still getting facts about this,

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Speaker 1: that the individuals here who were straining nearly said call police,

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Speaker 1: get paramedics. You know, they wanted them to meet. They

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Speaker 1: wanted paramedics to be there at the next stop. So

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Speaker 1: they were trying to get law enforcement and medical personnel there.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there was no desire I'm sure on

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Speaker 1: the part of any of the individuals involved. Look, you

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Speaker 1: have to really take a step back. This is what

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Speaker 1: I often say in law enforcement involve situations. This guy Penny,

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Speaker 1: his whole life is changed now totally. His whole life

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Speaker 1: is changed. He knows that he may be facing the

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Speaker 1: machine in New York and he may go to prison

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Speaker 1: there was no part of him that was saying, I

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kill this guy because I don't like him. Correct,

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Speaker 1: There was no part of him that was saying I

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Speaker 1: may throw my life away that could end up being.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't know what Brag is gonna bring here.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't some malice of I'm gonna he knows he's

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Speaker 1: on video, he knows there's eyewitnesses, he knows there's a

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Speaker 1: black guy who's also holding Neely with him, because he

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Speaker 1: was obviously scared of this guy Neely too, right when

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Speaker 1: other people people weren't putting Penny in a choke hold,

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Speaker 1: saying what are you doing? What are you doing? They

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Speaker 1: were helping him hold this guy because clearly he had

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Speaker 1: scared everybody on this train, and clearly this guy is

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Speaker 1: a threat to other people, because anyone who would punch

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Speaker 1: a sixty seven year old woman in the face right

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Speaker 1: and do serious damage is one step away from throwing

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Speaker 1: somebody in front of an oncoming train. I'm sorry, we

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Speaker 1: all know it's true. We all know it's there. How

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Speaker 1: many people listening this would have hit an elderly person

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Speaker 1: in the face for no reason hard enough to send

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Speaker 1: him to the hospital and almost make them go blind

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Speaker 1: in one eye. How many people?

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Speaker 2: Zero?

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Speaker 1: But now when you listen to this, oh, it's about

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Speaker 1: homelessness and.

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Speaker 2: The lack of sois Michael Jackson in Jackson forty arrests.

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Speaker 1: When you get to arrest number ten, can we all

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Speaker 1: agree this person needs to be taken out of society

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Speaker 1: for a while. Get all the help you want in

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Speaker 1: the Riker's psychiatric unit or at Ward's Island, or wherever

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Speaker 1: it is they're going to send him. Get all the

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Speaker 1: help you need there. Fine, we can all agree this

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Speaker 1: person was a danger, was a danger to people in

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Speaker 1: the subway. And the fact that now you're even hearing

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Speaker 1: from some of these leftists, Oh, you know, what's the

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Speaker 1: big deal if someone hits you in the face like

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Speaker 1: that person's having a bad day. Oh okay, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they would be fine with it. If they were punched

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Speaker 1: in the face. They wouldn't want the cops, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: someone to step in. But you know, this is the mentality. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the victimizer is the victim on the left, that's how

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Speaker 1: they view it.

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Speaker 2: That's how many murder there's eleven murder victims I believe

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Speaker 2: on the subway buck this year so far? How many

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Speaker 2: murderers can you name? How many murder victims can you name?

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Speaker 2: Which goes to what we were talking about yesterday, the

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Speaker 2: immediate narrative and politization of this story. I would just

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Speaker 2: point out again lots of murders have occurred in the

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Speaker 2: New York City subway. How many of you can name

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Speaker 2: this year eleven so far? According to date, I looked

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Speaker 2: up how many of you can name a person who's

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Speaker 2: been murdered? How many of you can name a murder?

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Speaker 2: No one? Right? I bet, I bet unless it was

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Speaker 2: you or your family or you were involved. Almost no one,

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Speaker 2: I would say, who is listening to us right now

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three can name someone who's been murdered.

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Speaker 1: And really, let's get down to this. What is the

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Speaker 1: lesson that we're supposed to take from this based on

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Speaker 1: the approach of this majority majority report, imbeciles and AOC

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Speaker 1: and Iana Pressley and all you know CNN and the

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Speaker 1: New York Times. What is the lesson that there are

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Speaker 1: just they're just white vigilantes roaming the streets murdering black

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Speaker 1: people for no reason. Is that is that because that

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Speaker 1: is their belief? That is that that seems to be,

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Speaker 1: but they're always suggesting to us it is a lie.

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Speaker 1: It is a lie. And yet this, just like the

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Speaker 1: whole BLM movement, is built on the lie that cops

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Speaker 1: are going around murdering on armed black men for no

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Speaker 1: reason on a regular basis, systematically and in large numbers

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Speaker 1: across the country, or in numbers that anybody you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the whole thing, Clay, everyone is just and this

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Speaker 1: really hits home. I think, is you know for because

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Speaker 1: I dealt with this, I've dealt with this. Other people

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Speaker 1: have dealt with this in New York City. My family

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Speaker 1: members have dealt with this. My parents have dealt with this.

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Speaker 1: We all get sick of You have to live in

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Speaker 1: fear when some maniac gets on the subway car, starts

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Speaker 1: threatening to stab people, maybe does rough somebody up, and

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Speaker 1: you know that the system won't lock him up. Because

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Speaker 1: people like AOC think that the price of social justice

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Speaker 1: is that your grandma may have to get thrown in

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Speaker 1: front of an oncoming train, your grandma may have to

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Speaker 1: get punched in the face. Social justice means that other

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Speaker 1: people suffer so that people like AOC can feel better

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Speaker 1: about themselves. And that's why this has really struck a chord.

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Speaker 1: People have just had enough. They're just sick of it.

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Speaker 1: They're sick of it, and you know, we're going to

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Speaker 1: see where the judicial system comes down on this issue.

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Speaker 1: They have not brought any charges yet, which means, you know,

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Speaker 1: all this talk of oh he's a murderer, no one,

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Speaker 1: there is no basis for calling him a murderer. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of people look at this and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: we wish we had more individuals who would step up

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Speaker 1: and stop the threats against their fellow human beings that

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Speaker 1: are occurring in cities across the country on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this really does, This hits home for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, and we're all sick of the lies.

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Speaker 1: We're all sick of the nonsense from the left on

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Speaker 1: it all. Right. Now, Look, some people like to debate

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Speaker 2: Sexton Welcome back in final hour of the week fourteen

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Speaker 2: hours up. This is the fifteenth hour. We appreciate many

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Speaker 2: of you who have spent all fifteen hours with us

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Speaker 2: so far this week as we've been tracking the biggest

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Speaker 2: stories in the country and around the world. We're joined

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Speaker 2: now by Julie Kelly to break down the latest on

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Speaker 2: the Proud Boys trial, where that stands, what's going on

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Speaker 2: with the January sixth defendant, and how it all ties

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Speaker 2: in with Donald Trump. So, Julie, what can you tell

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Speaker 2: us about the convictions that occurred this week of the

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Speaker 2: Proud Boys for seditious conspiracy and how you believe that

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Speaker 2: ties in with what the Department of Justice is going

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Speaker 2: to try to do as it relates to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Hi, guys, thanks for having me on. So yesterday, after

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Speaker 4: a four months trial, about five or so days of deliberations,

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Speaker 4: a jury in Washington, d C. Came back with four

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Speaker 4: convictions of four members of the Proud Boys. Five were

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Speaker 4: on trial. Four members convicted of seditious conspiracy and other

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Speaker 4: conspiracy counts, including obstruction of an official preceding One defendant,

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Speaker 4: Dominic Pazzola, was found not guilty of two of the conspiracies,

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Speaker 4: including seditious conspiracy. This brings the total number of January

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Speaker 4: sixth defendants, both convicted or having accepted plea deals. Fourteen

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Speaker 4: January six ers American citizens Trump supporters convicted now of

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Speaker 4: a post civil war statute. No Americans ever been convicted

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Speaker 4: of it until the January sixth criminal prosecution. Now we

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Speaker 4: have fourteen Trump supporters who have now been convicted of

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Speaker 4: this count that is synonymous to treason. The reason why

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Speaker 4: it is poses such a great legal threat to Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump is this now bolsters Special Prosecutor Jack Smith's attempts

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Speaker 4: if he pursues them to get a grandeury indictment against

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Speaker 4: Trump for the same charge of seditious conspiracy. You might

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Speaker 4: recall that the January sixth committee, they didn't send a

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Speaker 4: criminal referral on seditious conspiracy, but they suggested in their

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Speaker 4: report that DOJ should consider that charge against Trump, and

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Speaker 4: specifically mentioned convictions in the oath Keeper's case and the

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Speaker 4: pending trial of the Proud Boys. So that's where I

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Speaker 4: suspect this is headed.

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Speaker 1: Julie, it's Buck. We really appreciate you being with us

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Speaker 1: as always. Can you just tell us, because I was

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Speaker 1: able to see some fragments here and there about the

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Speaker 1: specifics of what these individuals you've told us, what the

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Speaker 1: charges are and the jury findings on them. What is

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Speaker 1: it that they supposedly did? And in one case my

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Speaker 1: understanding and if this is incorrect, I know you'll update this.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I like being able to ask you

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Speaker 1: this stuff. Is that somebody wasn't even in DC at all,

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Speaker 1: one of these individuals on January sixth. What is it

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Speaker 1: that they supposedly did and were now convicted.

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Speaker 4: Of what they did? Clay and buck Is have a

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Speaker 4: lot of text messages in encrypted group chats, which by

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Speaker 4: the way, included an unknown number of FBI in foremants.

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Speaker 4: We know there were at least eight. That's what the

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Speaker 4: government stipulated in this case. I suspect that there were dozens.

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Speaker 4: But all of the evidence basically was chats on parlor

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Speaker 4: and chests and group chats, posts and group chats that

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Speaker 4: talked about stopping the steal, attending the rallies in November,

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Speaker 4: in December planning to go to January sixth, talking about

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Speaker 4: seventeen seventy six, talking about a possible war, that Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden was not legitimately elected, et cetera, et cetera. That

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Speaker 4: was the evidence. How do you overthrow the government, which

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Speaker 4: is the essence of seditious conspiracy when you bring no weapons.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, is it correct based on the court documents,

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Speaker 1: this amount of record that the prosecution didn't even allege

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Speaker 1: that these individuals on the seditious conspiracy he charge had

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Speaker 1: come up with a plan for the conspiracy and the sedition.

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Speaker 1: Am I missing something?

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Speaker 4: No, you're not. You're exactly right. And to get back

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Speaker 4: to your first question. Enrique Ontario, the group's leader, was

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore on January sixth. He had been arrested on

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Speaker 4: January fourth for an altercation back in December. He was arrested,

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Speaker 4: ordered to leave Washington, which he did. But he's still

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Speaker 4: convicted of seditious conspiracy. So what exactly was this case about.

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Speaker 4: It was about these techs. It was about people who

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Speaker 4: didn't really know each other meeting up on January sixth,

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Speaker 4: marching from the Washington Monument to the Capitol. They stopped

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Speaker 4: at food trucks on their way there. Yes, they didn't

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Speaker 4: have weapons, they didn't assault any police officers. They were

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Speaker 4: accused of knocking over a fence, you know, a metal fence.

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Speaker 4: One of them smashed in a window with a riot shield.

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Speaker 4: That is the totality of the case and so, but

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Speaker 4: this is the slippery slope, and as we've all talked

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Speaker 4: about the obstruction of an official preceding selony, this is

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Speaker 4: the bastardization weaponization of laws that have nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with political protests. But this is how they're wielding them,

654
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Speaker 4: weaponizing them to criminalize political dissent, and they're doing it

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Speaker 4: very successfully.

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Speaker 2: You set one hundred and ten percent chance that you

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Speaker 2: believe the Department of Justice was going to charge Trump.

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Speaker 2: You also put out a tweet saying that you laid

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Speaker 2: out basically probably the argument that Department of Justice is

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Speaker 2: going to use now that they have these seditious conspiracy convictions,

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Speaker 2: that Trump is basically the person that put this all

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Speaker 2: in motion with a tweet that he sent on December

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Speaker 2: nineteenth about the events on January sixth? Are you even

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Speaker 2: more you set one hundred and ten percent. How much

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Speaker 2: more convinced are you now based on these convictions that

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Speaker 2: charges against Trump are coming and what do you think

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Speaker 2: they'll look like?

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Speaker 4: So I'm still over one hundred percent confident that they

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Speaker 4: are going to indict him. I would say there's probably

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Speaker 4: a seventy percent chance that they'll go for seditious conspiracy

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Speaker 4: indictment against him. But to your point, the tweet that

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump posted on December nineteenth, come to the rally

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Speaker 4: on January sixth, will be wild. The government said that

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Speaker 4: that date was when this alleged conspiracy began, and they

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Speaker 4: cited Donald Trump's tweet as sort of evidence that this

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Speaker 4: group was then starting to conspire to commit sedition. But

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Speaker 4: going back even further, the very first clip that the

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Speaker 4: Assistant US Attorney played during closing arguments last week, I

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Speaker 4: went to DC to watch closing arguments. The very first

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Speaker 4: video clip he played to the jury was not of

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Speaker 4: the probab Boys committing violence or trying to overthrow Congress.

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Speaker 4: It was Donald Trump's comment in the September twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: presidential debate when he was goaded by Joe Biden and

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Speaker 4: Chris Wallace to condemn white supremacist militia groups. And he

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Speaker 4: asked for a name, and Joe Biden is the one

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Speaker 4: who said the Proud Boys. So Trump said, Proud Boys,

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Speaker 4: stand back and stand by. That clip was played. It

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Speaker 4: was also mentioned in the official press release that came

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Speaker 4: out today by the Department of Justice that that comment

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Speaker 4: spurred on the Proud Boys led to a big surge

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Speaker 4: in their membership, and that's how they came to try

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Speaker 4: to overthrow the government. On January sixth, DJ put that

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Speaker 4: in their press release today. None of this is by accident.

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Speaker 4: It is warning shot to not just Trump but people

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Speaker 4: around him, possibly Johnnysman and others, for allegedly conspiring. And

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Speaker 4: look at the language. And I posted this on Twitter

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Speaker 4: today too if people want to look. The jury instructions

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Speaker 4: are extremely vague. It's not just that you're trying to

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Speaker 4: overthrow the government by force. It is prevent delay or

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Speaker 4: hinder execution of a government law. Now, think of how

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Speaker 4: this could apply to past and certainly future political protests.

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Speaker 4: So in not even force, the force part of it

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Speaker 4: was never proven and doesn't have to be proven according

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Speaker 4: to the jury instructions. So if you yell at a

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Speaker 4: police officer in service of a political protest, that's by

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Speaker 4: force trying to commit seditious conspiracy. If you delay a

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Speaker 4: congressional hearing, say, or a confirmation hearing, anything that we've seen,

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Speaker 4: especially in the past five or six years by the left,

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Speaker 4: this would apply. So this is really the very discouraging

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Speaker 4: way that these judges, quite frankly, are letting the Department

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Speaker 4: of Justice bastardize laws that have nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: what happened on January sixth, but nonetheless are being used

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Speaker 4: to criminalize descent and punished Trump supporters for protesting his

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Speaker 4: election that day.

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Speaker 1: Julie, you're certainly looking very precient with your six months

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Speaker 1: ago telling us you think they're going to bring They've

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Speaker 1: already brought us. We know a criminal charge against Donald

718
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Speaker 1: Trump that rubicon has been crossed, but the federal criminal

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Speaker 1: charge up to and including possibly a seditious conspiracy charge

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Speaker 1: against the likely next Republican nominee. What do you think

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Speaker 1: their timeline is for this? And also do you believe

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Speaker 1: that they want to and would if they can lock

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump up? I mean, these proud boys are facing

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Speaker 1: twenty years in prison from what I understand.

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Speaker 4: Not only are they facing up to twenty years in prison,

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Speaker 4: possibly more, they've already been in prison since the spring

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Speaker 4: really winter of twenty twenty one. This was even before

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Speaker 4: they were charged with seditious conspiracy. When they were just

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Speaker 4: charged with obstruction and regular conspiracy. Judge Tim Kelly denied

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Speaker 4: their bail. They were in jail almost two years as

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Speaker 4: innocent men before they had a chance to go to trial.

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Speaker 4: So there's precedent for both obstruction and seditious conspiracy for

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Speaker 4: the government to come in ask for pre trialed attention,

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Speaker 4: meaning deny bail for Donald Trump or anyone else charged

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Speaker 4: with these crimes. And these judges Trump, Biden, Trump, Obama, Clinton,

736
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Speaker 4: all the way down to Reagan appointed judges have signed

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Speaker 4: off on pre trial detention orders, even for nonviolent offenders

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Speaker 4: with basically what would be a sort of a process crime.

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Speaker 4: This is a very dangerous I wish I was not exaggerating,

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Speaker 4: but you guys know, because you so. I'm so grateful

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Speaker 4: for covering my work. I've covered this for more than

742
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Speaker 4: two years, and what's happening in that DC courthouse is

743
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Speaker 4: getting worse than when I first started covering it. It

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Speaker 4: is the Marxist banana republic style. Whether it's a Republican judge,

745
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Speaker 4: Democrat one where these prosecutors come from, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: They are all in cahoots to punish Trump's supporters and

747
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Speaker 4: get you know, the brass ring, which will be Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: When do you think the time frame Julie would be

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Speaker 2: on an indictment?

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Speaker 4: You know, Jack Smith is uh, he he had Mike

751
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Speaker 4: Pence last week testified before the grand jury for January sixth.

752
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Speaker 4: I think he's getting close to the end. I think

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Speaker 4: that this will kind of wrap up sort of loose

754
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Speaker 4: ends that he needs. So it could be June. I

755
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: doubt that it would be as quickly as May could be.

756
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Speaker 4: June could be July. But anyone who thinks that this

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Speaker 4: Department of Justice or Jack Smith is going to abide

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Speaker 4: by long stand you know, long standing traditions of you know,

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Speaker 4: not pursuing political prosecutions in election years or et cetera,

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Speaker 4: None of that matters. The rule of law doesn't matter,

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Speaker 4: the Constitution doesn't matter. Decency does not matter to these people.

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Speaker 4: They are vengeful, reckless, and they have bloodlust in them

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Speaker 4: that it shocks me every day to see it. And

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Speaker 4: so if I pray that I'm wrong, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think that I am.

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Speaker 2: Julie, you have killed it, continue to do so, covering

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Speaker 2: all of these cases. We will have you on again soon.

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Speaker 2: Go follow Julie Kelly on Twitter and thank you for

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Speaker 2: your time.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Roy for having me on, Guys, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton making sense.

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Speaker 2: In an insane world.

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Speaker 1: So Clay often talks to me about how he likes

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Speaker 1: stories about the British royal family.

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Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't know where. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: When you hear the rest of this story, I knew.

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Speaker 2: What was gonna talk about.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, this is my setup, sir, what is going on?

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Speaker 5: So I will say generally I find them boring British

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Speaker 5: royal fambly stories boring. This one though, I have to

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Speaker 5: admit I think this is definitely one that folks are

805
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Speaker 5: gonna click on. There was as tomorrow they're going to

806
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Speaker 5: swear in Prince Charles is going to become King Charles

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Speaker 5: the Third.

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting in the United Kingdom. But some prankster

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Speaker 1: has at the coronation site, which looks very regal, has

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Speaker 1: mowed into the grass.

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Speaker 6: A giant penis in absolutely enormous fallas Okay, now, Clayton,

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Speaker 6: what I want to know is just think about the

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Speaker 6: initial uh, the initial.

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Speaker 1: Meetings that they must have had, you know, Buckingham Palace

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Speaker 1: or whatever, Like, excuse me, what are we going to do?

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Speaker 7: It seems someone's mowed a giant penis into the lawn,

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Speaker 7: Like and also what do they do with the giant

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Speaker 7: penis in the lawn, because if they cover it with

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Speaker 7: a tarp, it's kind of like, hey, there's a there's

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Speaker 7: a you know, a man zone here that you can't

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Speaker 7: go near.

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Speaker 5: What do you think the proper the proper outcome is

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Speaker 5: for this one.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know how you were able.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the all time greatest

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Speaker 2: pranks to be able at the coronation site where they

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Speaker 2: are going to celebrate King Charles. If you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: this aerial photo, there is a gigantic penis that has

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Speaker 2: been mowed into the lawn now that you cannot you

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Speaker 2: cannot miss, which is why would Buck said Clay often

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Speaker 2: talks to me about. I was like, well, the gigantic penises.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: hell of a different segment than I expected. So I

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Speaker 2: think you have to If I were in charge of

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Speaker 2: public relations at the palace right now, I think, first

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Speaker 2: of all, you have to cover it up right, and

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Speaker 2: you cut here's my suggestion you cover it up with

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Speaker 2: a gigantic grouping bouquet of some sort, like.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can turn it into like a coconut

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Speaker 1: tree or something, so you make a little tropical turn

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Speaker 1: it into I think you cover it all up with

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Speaker 1: flowers and claim that this was always a part of

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Speaker 1: the design.

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Speaker 2: The flowers that have to cover up the gigantic penis

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Speaker 2: I all this is.

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Speaker 1: This is a brilliant This is a brilliant form of

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Speaker 1: protest against the monarchy. I have to say, I'm.

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Speaker 2: A big fit. I wonder too, this has to be

849
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Speaker 2: a gold mine for the British tabloids, right because we

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Speaker 2: have a story up about this on OutKick right now,

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Speaker 2: and everybody is clicking like they're like, how in the

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Speaker 2: world does this happen? How does this prank arise? And

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Speaker 2: who managed to pull this off? It is is so

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Speaker 2: funny and so outstanding. And I bet that our good buddy,

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Speaker 2: who's our good buddy, Justin Trundeau. This is sneaky misogyny

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Speaker 2: And and Justin Truna, We're gonna have to play you

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Speaker 2: a sneaky misogyny clip here in a little while. I

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Speaker 2: will be watching some of this coronation thing. Now, I

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Speaker 2: think Saturday, my twelve year old has got a ton

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Speaker 2: of Little League baseball games, so I think I'll mostly

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Speaker 2: be at the at the ballpark. But this is this

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Speaker 2: is such an incredible prank, one of the all time

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Speaker 2: great pranks, and I don't know how you played off.

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Speaker 2: Charles doesn't seem like he has a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: No, he does not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 1: If he were a funny guy, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: places he could go with this, you know, like you

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Speaker 1: should come out of the coronation, But it turns out

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Speaker 1: the penis is my tier than the soul. You know,

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Speaker 1: he could he could say a lot of things, but no,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna have fun with this one.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think doctor Jill Biden is going to

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Speaker 2: do a great job of addressing it here the coronation.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised, I know that Dwight Eisenhower didn't go

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Speaker 2: to the coronation of Queen Elizabeth. Were you a little

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Speaker 2: bit surprised that Biden himself is not going to be

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Speaker 2: at this thing because he's sending his wife, which to

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Speaker 2: me is just further evidence of the fact that they

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Speaker 2: can't travel that much with him. He was just in Ireland,

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Speaker 2: which feels a bit like a thumb in the eye

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Speaker 2: to the British that you would travel for a state

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Speaker 2: visit to Ireland a state visit. Remember that Biden couldn't

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Speaker 2: remember a week later we played you that audio when

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Speaker 2: the kids were peppering him with questions and he couldn't

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Speaker 2: remember the last time he was out of the country.

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Speaker 2: But it does feel a bit odd to me that

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Speaker 2: Biden and I think one of his granddaughters, Jill Biden

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Speaker 2: and one of the Biden granddaughters, not the illegitimate one

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Speaker 2: in Arkansas, who they deny having, but I believe one

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Speaker 2: of the ones that they considered the illegitimate granddaughter. The

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Speaker 2: only thing to be funnier is if they sent Hunter,

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Speaker 2: which would actually be really funny as the representative for

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Speaker 2: the family, especially given the gigantic peace this controversy that

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Speaker 2: is currently unspooling. I see.

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Speaker 1: I think one problem that the royal family has is

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Speaker 1: that humor isn't really like, none of them are funny.

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Speaker 1: Humor is not really allowed. Yeah, and that's one of

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Speaker 1: the issues that the monarchy runs into. They're just not

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Speaker 1: that no, you're not allowed to be self deprecating. Really,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to look at something like this and

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Speaker 1: say anything clever or music. But it is a reminder

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Speaker 1: a lot of people like, what is this exactly tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: There's this coronation of a king gets twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: and can they have a laugh about this or not?

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Speaker 2: You know, I visited Pompeii in as part of our

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Speaker 2: trip to Italy, and it was funny because you see

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Speaker 2: the gigantic penis on the lawn there. You know, the Romans,

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Speaker 2: all of their graffiti, a huge portion of it was

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Speaker 2: just gigantic penises. So we really haven't changed that much.

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Speaker 2: The graffiti from thousands of years ago similar to the

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Speaker 2: graffiti we get today.