1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: kicks off now. Our buddy Clay taking a vacation day 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: with the family. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: He's on the beach. 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's thinking about all of us, while she's 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: probably thinking about the beautiful waves and the seagulls. But 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: he'll be back with us on Monday. Yours truly the Buckster, 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: mister buck Sexton. I'm I can't believe I just referred 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: to myself in third person. I'm here solo today, so 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: we are going to dive into all the latest news. 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: We've got the. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Big decision in the Fanny Willis case. In case you 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm going to hold off on that for 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: a second. I guess I'll be breaking news for many 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: of you. Is she allowed to continue as the lead 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: prosecutor in the Fulton County, Rico case against Donald Trump 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: and over a dozen other defendants. 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I'll break that down for you. 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: It's a well, I guess if I tell you it's 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: a disappointing situation, you already know what the answer is 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: that is happening. You've also got Vice President Kamala Harris 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: visited a planned. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Parenthood clinic yesterday. 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: The first time a president or vice president, according to 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's office, has toured a facility that specifically performs abortions. 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: So if you're. 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Wondering what the Democrats are planning to try to maintain power, 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: you're getting a sense of it from the acts of 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and the ruthlessness with which they will both 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: lie and misdirect on the issue of abortion. They will 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: call it reproductive health, they'll call it all kinds of things, 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: but it's really just about abortion. There was a shooting 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: in the New York City subway system on the A 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: train in rush hour. Man was shot in the head. 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: The whole thing caught on video, and it is just 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: raising more people's blood pressure, getting everyone more upset about 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: how much more can the City of New York suffer 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: through before they realize it is time to get serious. Actually, 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: right now, as I speak to you, the NYPD is 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 2: holding a news conference. You know, they can hold all 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: the news conferences so live. Right now, they're explaining what 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: happened and they're trying to calm people down. They can 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: hold all the news conferences they want. At the end 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: of the day, all that matters is will they enforce 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: the law? Will the prosecutors prosecute criminals? Will they incarcerate 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: those who are praying on their fellow Americans, their fellow 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: human beings in New York and in all these Democrat 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: controlled cities that are spiraling out of control. And they're 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: saying that now. Guess what, Oh, here we go. They're 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: saying it's time to force the law on subway fair evasion. 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: That's happening right now. That was just the chiron at 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: the bottom of the screen on the live news feed. 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: So I obviously can't hear what they're saying as I'm 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: talking to you, but I can read the script as 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: it flows across, and I can get a sense as 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: to what's being said. But this has been ongoing for 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: some time. It has been clear for a while that 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: they're the only option that they have if they want 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: to start to make people safer on the subway system 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: is to abandon the idiotic crime loosening policies or the 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: soft on crime policies that the Democrat Party specifically embraced 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: because of the identity politics, which let's all be clear, 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: identity politics really generally means race politics in this country. 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: It can also now mean gender politics, but really identity 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: politics when we say that, we mean racial politics in America, 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: and racial politics are corrosive and destructive and antithetical to 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: the America that we all aspire to be living in 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: day in and day out. It shouldn't be about anyone's race. 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: We're all Americans, right, We're all the same under the law. 72 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: We're all treated equally under the law. And the first 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: obligation of the state, in the city of New York 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: or in any whether we're talking big s state or 75 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: the general state, the first obligation is to protect people. 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: The first obligation is not to both disarm them. And 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: I know of what I speak here because New York 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: City makes it so very difficult for anyone to legally 79 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: have a farm. I couldn't even believe this. I was 80 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: doing a producer ally. She's still riding the subway day 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: in and day out. She's there in New York City. 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: So she's our unofficial New York City correspondent, right, because 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: she's on the subway every day. And I used to 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: be on the subway every day for years, and I 85 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: was saying, I wonder what the rules are right now 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: on pepper spray on non lethals, because I think there 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: are some fantastic non lethals out there that people can 88 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: have for self defense purposes. 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Something will be talking about more. I hope that in 90 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: the future. 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: And it turns out that in New York, of course 92 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: you got crazy people getting on the subway with knives 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: and guns. And the part of the problem here is 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: they don't have to have a knife or a gun. 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: If somebody shoves you in front of an oncoming train, 96 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how strong you are, doesn't matter how well 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: trained you are, nothing matters. You are defenseless. 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: And that's happened in New York City a number of times. 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: As we know. 100 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: It's not a thank God in every day or a 101 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: frequent occurrence, but it has happened numerous times, and that's 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: terrifying to people. But also you could see somebody like 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: the guy who Daniel Penny tried to neutralize as a threat, 104 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: and unfortunately the guy died. Daniel Penny was not trying 105 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: to kill him. He was just trying to neutralize the 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: threat that that individual posed to the other people on 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: the subway. As they all said, the eyewitnesses that individual 108 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: had broken a woman's nose by just running up and 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: punching her in the facement she was standing and waiting 110 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: for a train. So this idea that if we can 111 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: control the guns will stop the crime is absurd. It's 112 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: not even worthy of debate or discussion. 113 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: It's stupid. 114 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: But that's why the National Guard was deployed by Hochel 115 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: for how long. By the way, this is all for show, right, 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Hokel deploys the NYPD alongside of well, she doesn't deploy 117 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: the NYPD, but you know, state troopers, but she deployed. 118 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: She deploys the National Guard to go alongside the NYPD. 119 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: And the whole point of this is to make it 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: look like they're doing something, because they refuse to do 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: the fundamentals. So now I'm seeing they're saying that they're 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: checking more to see if a person is arrested, is 123 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: a recidive. Now they're saying they're going to enforce subway 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: fair evasion. You mean what Rudy Giuliani did to clean 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: up the city of New York. I will forever be 126 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: thankful to Rudy Giuliani and the NYPD during his tenure, 127 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: the commissioners, the rank and file officers, the prosecutors under 128 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Morgan thought that time they decided enough was enough and 129 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: they got serious. But everyone is tired of this crap. 130 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: And the problem the Democrats have is that we've been 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: right all along. We've been right all along, meaning the 132 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: Republicans the right. Everything we said about this stuff was 133 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: true all the Hey, guys, come on, you can't do 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: all this woke nonsense when it comes to prosecution, when 135 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: it comes to early release from prison, it's all bad 136 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: ideas and all the BLM stuff too, the tremendous outpouring 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: of mandatory white guilt that everybody is supposed to feel, 138 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: and how that's supposed to shift law enforcement policy. 139 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Fund police? 140 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: Remember that, defund police the dumbest political slogan of my lifetime. 141 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: Maybe walls don't work, that's the other one. Interestingly enough, 142 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: at our southern border, you know there's still the unfinished wall. 143 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: And I was asked recently by someone, what are they 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: doing in the Dominican Republic, because they must have a 145 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: humanitarian crisis on their hands with the breakdown in Haiti. 146 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: How are they going to enforce their border any want 147 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: to guess what they're doing building a wall. It's just 148 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: been in process, it's starting somehow they think that a 149 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: wall will help secure their border. There are other places 150 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: as well, Israel notably, but other places where walls have 151 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: been incredibly successful. 152 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Back to policing. 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 2: The City of New York holding this live news conference 154 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: as I speak to you right now, because the video 155 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: on the subway was horrifying because what it showed was 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: not only a guy. Look, I don't know all the backstory, 157 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: no one does yet, but from what you see on 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: video and the videos of these incidents make it all 159 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: more real for everyone. That's a big part of this. 160 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: The perception has changed. You're not just reading some headline 161 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: or reading the first few lines of a New York 162 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Times piece. Oh, there was another mugging in the subway. 163 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: I wonder what that was like. Maybe he politely asked 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: for her purse. No, you see the video and it's awful, 165 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: and people are terrified. They're scrambling for safety, they're trying 166 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: to get away as there's a fight underway and someone 167 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: produces a gun. Now, the circumstances of all this we're 168 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: still finding out a little bit more. The video is 169 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: all over the internet. It seems that a guy intervened 170 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: to stop another guy from shooting, and sure enough, one 171 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: of them is now in critical condition in the hospital. 172 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: So I'll bring you more updates on this in terms 173 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: of what the police have said about the case. But fundamentally, 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: there's a shooting on the subway. People are trapped on 175 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: that subway car. Bullets are flying, They are screaming on video, 176 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Let me out, Let me out. I've got to get 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: out of here because they you know, it's very and 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: anybody who pays attention to violent statistics you'll see they're 179 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: as likely these you know, these criminals, gang members, they're 180 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 2: as likely to hit an innocent bystander or three as 181 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: they are the individual they're shooting at because they're just 182 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: letting off rounds in a subway car. Any of you 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: who have an understanding of ballistics, you know that bullet 184 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: could bounce right back and hit somebody. You could have 185 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: rounds bouncing around in there and could be lethal even 186 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: if he wasn't pointing. 187 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: It at somebody. 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: And it's not like that's something that's gonna and you 189 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: can't count on them showing any muzzle discipline for Heaven's sakes, 190 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: they're pulling a gun on a subway shooting people. So 191 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: this is why New York is having this moment in time. 192 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: This is why the City of New York, I think, 193 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: is trying to tell everybody, Oh, we're going to you 194 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: start enforcing fair evasions. We're going to start cracking down. 195 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: You know what The problem here was the hubris of 196 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: rich left wing democrats in New York and other cities 197 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: who feel that they're above the day to day of crime. 198 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: It won't affect them, and it makes them feel virtuous. 199 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: It makes them feel less racist because they think the 200 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: Republicans are so racist, right, so if they take a 201 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: different position from the Republicans, they're showing their lack of racism. 202 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: They're anti racist. It makes them feel good about themselves 203 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: to promote policies that result in more crime, and specifically 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: more minorities in high crime areas suffering from the tiny, 205 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: tiny minority within that minority that commits almost all the crime. 206 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: In a major city like New York. 207 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, they've done statistical analysis on this. If you 208 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: were to lock up a few thousand and recidivous criminals 209 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: in the City of New York, you'd bring crime down 210 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: seventy percent, violent crime, serious crime. 211 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: They know who the bad guys are. 212 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: There are eight point six maybe eight point seven million 213 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: New Yorkers. 214 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: It is entirely Democrat controlled. 215 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: We got our one friend, Joe Borelli, holding strong in 216 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: Staten Island as a Republican on the city's council. But 217 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: you know, they totally run the show. The Democrats totally 218 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: run the show. And you've got a city of over 219 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: eight point six million people and a few thousand of 220 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: them make it terrifying, make it unsafe, make it a 221 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: worse place to live for everyone. 222 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: And we know how to deal with this. It could 223 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: be dealt with. 224 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: But not only will the city refuse to do what 225 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: it needs to about it, the entire Democrat apparatus refuses 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: to do it. Oh I've mentioned before non lethals. I 227 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: couldn't believe this. I had to look this up myself. 228 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: I could believe it, I guess, but it still angered me. 229 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: In New York City, they won't ship you pepper spray, 230 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: but you're allowed to have it on your person, so 231 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: they just make it harder for you to get That's 232 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: the way that and of course bad guys get it, 233 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: and they can use it in a robbery or an assault. 234 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: But if you're trying to use it to defend yourself. 235 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: As especially as let's say a woman or somebody who's 236 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: not in a position physically to defend themselves as ably, 237 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: not allowed to have it, not allowed to have it. 238 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: You know, I live down here in Florida. Now I 239 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: can conceal carry whenever I want. I have a whole 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: bunch of firearms. No one is less safe because of 241 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: my lawful constitutional right to bear arms. Everyone around me 242 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: is more safe, in fact, including me, my wife, my friends, 243 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: and immediate family. This is the reality that places like 244 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: New York refuse to accept. They also refuse to accept 245 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: that if you just lock up criminals, you make everyone safer. 246 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: We've done it, We've seen. 247 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: I lived it. 248 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: I was there as a young person trying to go 249 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: out at night, and you know, I was sometimes in 250 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: neighborhoods it probably shouldn't have been in. And I saw 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: what happened when the city was left to rot. And 252 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: I saw what happened when all of a sudden the 253 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: people in charge were acting as serious individuals with a 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: mission to make the city safe and orderly and clean. 255 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: But you see, Democrats get some joy out of pretending 256 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: that none of that is necessary. They're better than that. 257 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: They view it as somehow oppressive to have law and 258 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: order in any city for that matter that they control. 259 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: And we see this time and time again. But we'll 260 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: see New Yorkers. I love New York. 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Taking some of your calls here in a second, 296 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: I said, current or former law enforcement front of the 297 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: line on this one. I'm sure a lot of you 298 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: have seen the video. We should link to it and 299 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: put the video up at Clayandbuck dot com so you 300 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: can all go there and check it out. We'll get 301 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: the team to do that, because you can just see 302 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: the brazenness of the crime and the helplessness and the 303 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: terror of the people stuck on the subway. 304 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: Some maniac you know what they know on that subway. 305 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: For sure, there's no good guy with a gun unless 306 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: there's like an undercover cop nearby, which good luck with that. 307 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: But this is very different, you know. 308 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean when I joke around, when I go out 309 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: there with friends here in Florida, sometimes one of us 310 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: and usually several of us, are strapped. 311 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. 312 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: And so when I roll with my people here, the 313 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: chance that we would be in a situation where someone 314 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: has drawn a fireum and we are all entirely helpless 315 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: is very low. 316 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: It's very low. But that's Florida, it's not New York. 317 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: New York thinks that by. 318 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Controlling the guns, they had to set up a shot 319 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: spotter system and the cops. I remember I had a 320 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: sergeant in the Intel Division who would tell me, yeah, 321 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: you know when they get a lot of action on. 322 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: The shot spotter is. 323 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: When on the Caribbean Day Parade there'd be automatic weapons 324 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: that were getting fired off of rooftops in Brooklyn. Automatic weapons. 325 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: And I said, wow, apparently it's not so hard to 326 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: get those either in New York City if you don't 327 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: care about the law. The answers, yeah, so yeah, it 328 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, just keeps the law by it from getting it. 329 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: I mentioned this though, metal detectors. This is Chief Madra 330 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: to reporters in this press conference that just happened in Brooklyn, 331 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: New York. Chief Madra said that they're thinking about metal detectors. 332 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: Is twenty nine play. It does into the system to 333 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: the fund pulls through the case for the introduction of 334 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: the metal detectors. 335 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: I think it does support that. I'm not saying it personally, 336 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: but when you lay out the evidence in the facts, 337 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 3: someone walked into a train station with the gun, and 338 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: then everyone here saw the video. You saw a fairly 339 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: crowded a train car where people were laying on top 340 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: of each other scared because someone drew a gun at 341 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: that point. So I'm not saying that I'm at four 342 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: or against, but I think it just does support that. 343 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I refuse to allow stupid ideas to ruin more people's 344 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: days and even cost more people their lives. And the 345 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: metal detectors in the subway is a dumb idea. It 346 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: would be enormously expensive. Remember they went from random bag 347 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: checks a couple of weeks ago to now metal detectors 348 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: on the subway is being talked about at this at 349 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: this press conference with the police. 350 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: But hold on a second, everyone, take a step back. 351 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: Think about this for a moment. I'd go on the side. 352 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: I got keys in my pocket. You know, people going 353 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: to there are workmen. They're gonna be carrying, you know, a. 354 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: Hammer they're gonna you know, the subway is how you 355 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: get around in New York City for millions of people, 356 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: millions of people, the only way to get around to 357 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: New York City for millions of people. So now think 358 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: about putting magnetized. Oh you couldn't just put them in 359 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: the high crime stations. Oh no, there's bad, bad You can't. 360 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: You can't use data and averages to figure out where 361 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: the crime is happening, because oh well, why don't they 362 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: have a magnetometer on the uh you know, seventy ninth Street, 363 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: Upper West Side station, surrounded with all the multimillion dollar homes. 364 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: They should be patting everybody down there too. You know 365 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: where it goes. It is the rejection of logic and 366 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: lived experience in the service of virtue signaling in the services. 367 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm a good Democrat and I'm an anti racist. I 368 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: don't even have to talk about race at all in 369 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: the context of this. I just want everyone to be safer. 370 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: I want the laws to be enforced, and in doing so, 371 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: my proposals here, the ones that all of you know 372 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: and share because we talk about this frequently here on 373 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: the show. Our proposals we could say it that way 374 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: would not only make us all safer. They would because 375 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: all includes are minority brothers and sisters in this country, 376 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: they would be safer too. 377 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: We would all be safer. 378 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 2: But instead of admitting that, the Left comes up with 379 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: these just absurd ideas. It's just gonna harass everybody. How 380 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: long do you think that's gonna take. It's gonna be 381 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: like we're all going to concerts. Now, you have to 382 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: tell you empty out your pockets, empty out your bad 383 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: to get on the subway, and you'll still have maniacs 384 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: who are exposing themselves and urinating on straphangers and you know, 385 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: punching people in the face and throwing old ladies in 386 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: front of trains. Because what they won't do is the 387 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: one thing that will actually make everyone safer. Punish criminals, 388 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: enforce the law. Punish criminals. 389 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. 390 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 4: When was the. 391 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: Last time someone did something heinous? Find me a case 392 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 2: of someone who did something heinous on the subway in 393 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: recent years in New York or any city. 394 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: And when they look into the guy, it's like, oh wow, 395 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: totally clean record. You know, he was just teaching Sunday school, 396 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: and he's you know, bringing food to old ladies in 397 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: his own time on the weekends, and he's you know, 398 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: he's adopted five puppies out of the shelter, and he's 399 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: a great guy, and he just decided to you know, 400 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: whack some old lady over the head with a lead 401 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: pipe on the subway for no reason. 402 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: It never happens. We all know what's going on here. 403 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: We all understand who's behind this stuff. The criminal underclass, 404 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: the recidivius, they repeat, criminals in this is Democrats even 405 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: knew this back in the nineties. Joe Biden himself knew this. 406 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: And here's what's you have to be aware of this. 407 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna transition into more of the politics and 408 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: all that in a moment here, But the politics of this, 409 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna want to have it both ways. They will 410 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: have the local and state level Democrats in safe blue 411 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: areas talking about how, yeah. 412 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Well we still need police reform and we need you know, 413 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: police accountability and maybe we have Magnetometer's nonsense. But Biden's 414 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, how are you support we support cops. Yeah, 415 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: you know that's right, Jack, not a joke, you know, 416 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: we support cops. 417 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 418 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: He's gonna do that whole thing just to hope to 419 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: fool people. 420 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: His party is absolutely anti law enforcement, not just law 421 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: enforcement personnel. His party is anti the enforcement of the 422 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: law as a concept. 423 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: As a concept. 424 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: They're opposed to it because they don't like the disparate 425 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: impact that law enforcement actually has. They don't like that 426 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: there isn't an equal share of all the population. And 427 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: as I've made this argument, and I know Clay likes 428 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: this argument too, but I started saying this a long 429 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: time ago on the show. You know, murder laws are 430 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: really harsh on men. Men create far more cause and 431 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: commit far more murders than women do. 432 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: But we all understand. 433 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, there's a reason why the prisons are full 434 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: of men, because they commit the violent crimes. We don't 435 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: change the law to say, well, until we have fifty 436 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: percent women and fifty percent men murdering people, we can't 437 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: really enforce these murder laws the same way. That is 438 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: the root fallacy of so much of what we see 439 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: in law enforcement policy today in America. And until we 440 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: defeat this, we're going to keep being subjected to this nonsense. 441 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: I did want to give you the uh. This is 442 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: just an update of factual updates. It was a little 443 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: bit murky on this video. This is Couproberdy. This is 444 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: Chief Madre saying that, well, I'll let him say it. 445 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: This is the circumstance of the shoe booting on the 446 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: subway play thirty. 447 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: I saw that video. I think I had the same 448 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: thoughts as you. It seems like the male was making 449 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: inferences like he was a police officer as he was 450 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: speaking to the person that he was having a dispute with. 451 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: And again it's just something that is very alarming. You know, 452 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: we know that we have people in a subway that 453 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: suffer from mental illness. And this is why supportant that 454 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: the police department do play a role along with the 455 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: clinicians and people who are really qualified to deal with this. 456 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: But as you saw what the results were yesterday. 457 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the NYPD they call them edps, emotionally disturbed person. 458 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: It's a nice way of saying crazy, and yes, what 459 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: all that stuff about, We just need social workers? Yeah, 460 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: you think the social worker wants to show up and 461 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: deal with some of the people without cops there to 462 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: back them up on the subway. 463 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Anyone who says that needs to spend. 464 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: More time on the New York City subway system, which 465 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: I obviously don't do as much anymore, but I did 466 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: for years and years, and we all see what's going 467 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: on here. But it's an election year and some people 468 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: would rather double down on wrong and have other people 469 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: suffer that admit the truth, the truth that stares us 470 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: all in the face. 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Download that Prize Picks app today. We know, 499 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: at least for now, that Judge McAfee in Fulton County, 500 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: the one who is overseeing the Rico case against Donald 501 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: Trump and a bunch of others co defendants, is not 502 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: pulling Fannie Willis off of the role. 503 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: As prosecutor in that case. 504 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: He's not dismissing the charges, dismissing the case entirely, which 505 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: he could have done. He's not removing or demanding that 506 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: Fani Willis be removed from the case, which he could 507 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: have done. But he is saying that Nathan Wade. Now, 508 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: there are two options. The judge lays out, I actually 509 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: have his decision here in part in front of me. 510 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: The two options are quote the prosecution of this case 511 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: cannot proceed until the state selects one of two options. 512 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: The district attorney may choose to step aside along with 513 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: the whole of her office and refer the prosecution to 514 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: the Prosecuting Attorney's council for reassignment. So voluntarily just hand 515 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: the case over to to another group of prosecutors, or 516 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: Nathan Wade, the special Assistant District Attorney here, can withdraw, 517 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: which would allow the disc attorney, the defendants, and the 518 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: public to move forward without his presence or remuneration distracting 519 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: from and potentially compromising the merits of this case. Let's 520 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: unpack this together, shall we. Why is it okay if 521 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: there was impropriety here for Fanny Willis to stay on, 522 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: but not Nathan Wade, Like, how does that make any sense? 523 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: She's this senior public official here who engaged not only 524 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: in conduct with a subordinate that is highly questionable at best, 525 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: but also she's the one who on the stand clearly 526 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: lied about what was going on. So given the fact 527 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: that she clearly lied, and given the fact that she 528 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: has made a mess of this is why wouldn't Judge 529 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: McAfee just say, look, you can't continue to prosecute this case. 530 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: Somebody else has to do it. No, he wanted to 531 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: lay out two options where that's one thing she could 532 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: voluntarily say Okay, I'm not going to do this anymore. 533 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: She's not going to do or this other move which 534 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: I had said the judge was going to do this. 535 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: I said he would do the Solomon solution, so to speak, 536 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: and try to take this one down the middle. But 537 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: this isn't down the middle, because this is a binary. 538 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: You're either doing what is right and required here or not, 539 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: and he is not doing what is right and required 540 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: by any realistic and fair minded interpretation of what the 541 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: ethics around this and what the statutes involved in this 542 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: would demand. So then you might say, why isn't he 543 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: doing it? It's judge McAfee, what's going on? Well, for 544 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: one thing, that he has his own career to look at. 545 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: He wants to keep his judge role, remember being a judge. 546 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: It's not just about the cash, not that it's a 547 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: lot of cash, obviously. It's not just about having a 548 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: job though to pay the bills. It's about the prestige 549 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: and the power. People don't want to give up those jobs. 550 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: They don't want to go back and you know, try 551 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: to just make it in some law firm somewhere, and 552 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: you know, Atlanta, Greater Atlanta area no, he wants to 553 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: keep the role beyond that. I think he recognized that 554 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: if he was seen in any way as assisting Donald Trump, 555 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: they would start to run articles about how he is 556 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 2: part of the MAGA underhanded destruction of our institutions, that 557 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: it's it's Donald Trump's henchman. Judge McAfee steps in, even 558 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: though that's I understand delusional, and it is delusional. 559 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: But even with. 560 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 2: That knowledge, we all have to sit here under that 561 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: is what they would say about him. They would make 562 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: these claims about Judge McAfee, and perhaps even more than 563 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: just make claims. I said it a few days ago 564 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: here on the show. They set a standard, and this 565 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: is so important. It's not just about the incident. It's 566 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: about the standard that it sets, the precedent that it sets, right. 567 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: That was true in the Kavanaugh hearings. Yeah, I just 568 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: have some lunatic make up a bunch of garbage about 569 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: how somebody grabbed at her forty years ago or something 570 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: and can't remember anything, but you know, then call him 571 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: a sexual predator. Oh, they did that, and then what 572 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: happened to Donald Trump a few years after Kavanaugh. They 573 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: had set the precedent right, and there's precedent being set 574 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: as well with judges Supreme Court justices during the Roe v. 575 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: Wade decision process, right before the decision came out. We 576 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: never found out who leaked that decision, which I told 577 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: you you can go back and check. I said, we 578 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: will never find out. And you know why I knew 579 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: because they didn't want to find out, Because people like 580 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: Justice Roberts and many others, especially within the Beltway, know 581 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: that the left is destroying the institutions in this country, 582 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: is doing everything they can so that a smart wise 583 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: person would have no faith in these institutions to begin 584 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: with anymore. And they're terrified of the public finally figuring 585 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: that out in a way that's irretrievable. So they'll help. 586 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: They'll even help cover things up. They may not be 587 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: in on it, but they don't want everyone to know 588 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: the full truth. And that's why I knew they were 589 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: never going to find out who the Supreme Court leaguer was, 590 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: and they haven't. I got some ideas they've never found out. 591 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: But remember they allowed, in clear violation of federal law, 592 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: they allowed protesters to gather outside the homes of Supreme 593 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: Court justices, an act of sheer intimidation. That is illegal, 594 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: and they let it happen because, oh, it's about reproductive right, 595 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: so any you know, that's the only law that matters 596 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: to make believe reproductive rights laws. And then there was 597 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: even that lunatic that showed up with like weapons on 598 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: him and said he wanted to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. 599 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: You know what. 600 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: A lot of other judges were paying attention to that too. 601 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: They can read the news as well, and they say 602 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: to themselves, hold on a second, do I do I 603 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: really want to deal with that? Does my family? What 604 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: are they going to say to my kids in school? 605 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: If I do something that gets me caught up in 606 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: the anti Trump derangement of the Democrat Party? 607 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: What happens to me? Then they send a message even 608 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: when they don't win. That's the critical thing to remember. 609 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: They don't have to get their way every time. They 610 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: just have to show you what they're willing to do. 611 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: And then that influences decisions and policy and the future 612 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: of the country in ways that if you're not paying attention, 613 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: you could say, well, how could that happen? What is better? 614 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: Not just for the career prospects of judge McAfee, but 615 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: for making sure that he doesn't have his wife at 616 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: home terrified by purple haired anti Trump lunatics protesting outside 617 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: of his home saying that he's a racist judge. 618 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Look, he fired Fanny Willis. 619 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: We all know he can't fire Fanny Willis because she's 620 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: a prominent black and I say fire take her off 621 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: the case. Prominent black female prosecuting Donald Trump. His career 622 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: in his mind's over, it's over. You think he's gonna 623 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 2: You think the Georgia State Bar Association, all these state 624 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: bar associations are basically run by communists. 625 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: Now you think that they're. 626 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: Gonna be okay with him, You think that they're not 627 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: going to start looking into his past too. They will 628 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: make an example of him. There will be maniacs, probably 629 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: you know, teachers or random parents who I don't even 630 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: know if he has kids, I'm assuming he does the 631 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: harass his kids in school over this. So that's part 632 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: of the power that the Left brings to all of 633 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 2: these issues when it comes to any legal effort to 634 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: get Donald Trump. 635 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: And that brings me also the Fannie Willis side of this. 636 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Who's the fool here, my friends, who has looked foolish. 637 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: In this situation, Fannie Willis gets up there clearly lying 638 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: to all of us. 639 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: Right, we're not idiots. She's lying. Her conduct is reckless. 640 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: She haves the here do we have the Where was 641 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: she saying that they deserve somebody that won't have Oh, 642 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: here we go. This is a flashback to twenty twenty, 643 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: not you know, thirty years. 644 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: Ago, a flashback to a couple of years ago. 645 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: Here's Fannie Willis when she wanted the job district attorney saying, 646 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: you know what, you guys really deserve somebody. 647 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: Who won't sleep with her direct employees play six. 648 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 5: Because they deserve a DA that won't have sex with 649 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 5: his employees. Because they deserve a DA that won't put 650 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 5: money in their own pocket when it should go to 651 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 5: benefit children. Because we deserve better. 652 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah about that whole having sex with employees thing. And 653 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: a guy who's a special prosecutor, you know, within the 654 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: distric Attorney's office. A sign of this case, Nathan Wade 655 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: got paid six hundred thousand dollars. I have friends who 656 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 2: have worked in the District Attorney's Office of New York 657 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 2: for many years, and and I know people have worked 658 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 2: in District attorney's offices of other cities. That seems like 659 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of money to me, that Nathan Wade's getting 660 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: paid all for all of his expertise in reco cases. 661 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: He's never tried a reco case before. 662 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: You know, you sit here and you say, okay, But 663 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: back to my point about who's who's the fool in 664 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: this situation. Benny Willis gets up there, she testifies brazen misconduct, 665 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: clearly lying, she's defiant. 666 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: She undermines any. 667 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: Sense of gravitas and fairness that that District Attorney's office 668 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: in Fulton County has. Okay, she makes a mockery of 669 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: the whole thing. And we sit here and I look, 670 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: I'll say, I'm I'm a little guilty of this too. 671 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm not casting dispersions just on other people. I'm guilty 672 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: of as well. We're sitting here, were laughing, but you 673 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: know who's laughing now. She thought she could get away 674 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: with this because she is a prominent black woman who 675 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: is prosecuting Donald Trump. 676 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: And she was right. 677 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: What does that tell you about the system? What does 678 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: that tell you about the process. Is it really the 679 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: process anymore? Or is it raw power? She understood at 680 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 2: some level that her reckless conduct doesn't really matter because 681 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: she's going after Trump and she's protected and the judge 682 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: just affirmed it. 683 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: So, you know, we're all sitting, Oh, look at her testimony. 684 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: She's being you know, so belligerent with the with the lawyer, 685 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: and she's making stuff up and oh, I paid him 686 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: back in cash. Remember that, Oh, I was paying him 687 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: back for the trips in cash. And we're all going, 688 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: that's so ridiculous. 689 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, But she has to get out of jail free card. 690 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: Because of identity politics, race politics, going after Donald Trump. 691 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: You add those two things together, she gets to stay. 692 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: And she gets to abuse the powers of her office 693 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: to threaten to throw people in prison for non crimes 694 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: because of their association with Donald Trump, to force some 695 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: of them to spend god knows how much money to 696 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: possibly go bankrupt because of their association with Donald Trump, 697 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: and of course, most central and most important to her 698 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: of all, to abuse the powers of her office to 699 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: try to change the outcome of a presidential election and 700 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: with it, the future of the United States itself. 701 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: And she can laugh about it all the way because 702 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: she wins. 703 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 2: No matter what she knows, she won't get taken off 704 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: the case she knows he's in vulnerable. She knows that 705 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: prosecuting Trump, even if unsuccessful, gains her tremendous, tremendous access 706 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 2: and praise in not just legal you know, prominent Democrat 707 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: legal circles. 708 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: But you know, she's, oh, just does anyone want to 709 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: take a guess? 710 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 4: Now? 711 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: I was the one who was saying when Christine blasi 712 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: Ford came forward against Kavanaugh. 713 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: I was saying this on my radish at the time. 714 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: She's gonna be on magazine cover, she's gonna get a 715 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 2: book deal, she'll probably have. 716 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: A fragrance line. They were saying, oh, why would blasi 717 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: Ford do this? There's nothing in. 718 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 4: It for her? 719 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: And I was just livid about this, and those of 720 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: you are listening to them, No, I was absolutely losing. 721 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 2: That was such bull crap, nonsense analysis. Obviously, she was 722 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: becoming a hero. 723 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: To the Democrats. 724 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: Guess what, Fannie willis win or lose that trial gets 725 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: to be a hero of the Democrats. And she's so 726 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: important to them in this process that people are saying, oh, well, 727 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: just wait till we find, you know, more skeletons in 728 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: the closet, so to speak, Just wait till there's you know, 729 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: more stuff that comes up about her as the prosecutor 730 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: or some of the people around her that are also 731 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: on this case. 732 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: What makes you think that's going to make a difference. 733 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Look what we just saw. Look what we just saw, 734 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: and the judge isn't taking her off the case. The 735 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: fix is in. You know, I've been saying this all along. 736 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not supposed to bring charges against the president 737 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: election year. Guess what they have four times. Yeah, they're 738 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: not supposed to try to gain the system to run 739 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: these charges through in the election year, hold them and 740 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 2: then speed them up so they can time the whole 741 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: thing for maximum political effect. 742 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: Look what they're doing. 743 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not supposed to uh, change the outcome of 744 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 2: an election once again through illicit and unconstitutional means. 745 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: But that's exactly what they're doing. 746 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 2: If we think the process is going to protect us 747 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: from power, we are living in a delusion of our own. 748 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: We are now in a might makes right political environment. 749 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: They understand that. Unfortunately on our side, we're still waving 750 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: around a pocket copy of the Constitution saying, hold on second, doesn't. 751 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump have rights too? We'll see, Maybe. 752 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court steps in and decides that some of 753 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: this is just nonsense. 754 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't hold your breath on any of it. 755 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: Getting cash back from the gas and grocery store is 756 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 2: a really good feeling. Carrie's got this on the phone. 757 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: She loves a good deal. She's much better at finding 758 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: deals than I am. I'm kind of lazy about it, 759 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: but this makes it so easy even I can find 760 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: it good deals the Upside app. You get cash back 761 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: every time you use the Upside app to fill up 762 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 2: with gas, or buy groceries, or grab a meal and 763 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: any one of several thousand participating restaurants. Regular users of 764 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: the Upside app are getting three hundred dollars or more 765 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: back each year just by using the app when you 766 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: make your normal purchase. 767 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 4: Right. 768 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 2: This isn't like go buy things you don't need. You know, 769 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to go buy, you know, a 770 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: special aquarium or something like. This is food, gas, restaurant stuff. 771 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: So you're doing this anyway, why not save some money. 772 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: Upside app is free. It's like giving you free money. 773 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: You just got to download the app and use it. 774 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: Comparison to credit card rewards or loyalty programs, you can 775 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: earn three times more cash back. 776 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: With Upside. 777 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 2: That's why they have a four point eight star rating 778 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: in the app store. Download the free Upside app and 779 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: use promo code buck. You're going to extra twenty five 780 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas. 781 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: That's twenty five cents back for every gallon. Use that 782 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: promo code buck. Download the Upside app today. Use that 783 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: promo code Buck. We're joined by number one New York 784 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Times bestselling author Peter Schweitzer. He's going to talk to 785 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 2: us about blood money, why the powerful turn eight blind 786 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: Eye while China kills Americans. Peter, great to have you 787 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: on the show, and congrats on the success of the 788 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: book so far. 789 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 4: Oh thanks so much. Buck, great to be on with you. 790 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 791 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 3: So. 792 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: You have a very important story to tell in this book. 793 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 2: I love, by the way, some of the references and 794 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: really a lot of the structure of it coming from 795 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: perhaps the most famous military strategist of all time, Sun Su, 796 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: the Chinese military strategist from antiquity. And you talk about 797 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 2: the Chinese strategy strategies being used here that go back 798 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: to the time of Sun Su. And one thing I 799 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: want to dive into is disintegration. I thought this was 800 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: a fascinating concept in the book Disintegration Warfare, What is 801 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 2: that and how is China doing that to us? 802 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I could claim responsibility for the term 803 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 4: disintegration warfare, but it's actually a book that was written 804 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 4: by two senior Chinese military officers in twenty ten. And 805 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 4: what disintegration warfare does is really stand on the shoulders 806 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: of Sun Zoo. It's rested on the principle that the 807 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 4: best strategists is the one that defeats their enemy without 808 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 4: actually fighting them, And disintegration Warfare says, the way you 809 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 4: do that to America is you work to tear it apart, 810 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 4: you work to disintegrate it. And that includes lots of components. 811 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 4: One is the literal death of Americans of sentinal crisis, 812 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 4: which is really a Chinese operation more than it is 813 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 4: a drug cartel operation. It includes what they did during 814 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 4: COVID to maximize the body count, but it also includes 815 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 4: things like violence on American streets. I mean, there are 816 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 4: accelerants that they are providing that China's providing to make 817 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: that problem worse. It means a sowing racial division and 818 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 4: conflict in America. So that's what disintegration warfare is beat 819 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 4: the United States by carrying it apart. And I got 820 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 4: to tell you, Buck, I think they're doing a pretty 821 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 4: darn good job of it right now. 822 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's troubling to see, if nothing else, Peter, how 823 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: wrong the elites have been and really elite foreign policy opinion. 824 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 2: You can put that elite in quotes about China stretching 825 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: back now for forty years at least, I mean, maybe 826 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: even further than that. But the idea that we can 827 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 2: do all this business with China, give them unrestricted access 828 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: to our markets in so many ways, have all these 829 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 2: restrictions from their markets, and then also the ideological. 830 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: Subversion that's going on. 831 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: But before I get into the ideological side of it more, 832 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: can can you tell us, because this is something that 833 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 2: I think still doesn't get enough attention or focus, how 834 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 2: is China playing a role you know, take us from 835 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: the beginning of it to the end product on the streets. 836 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 2: How is China playing a role in the fentanyl crisis 837 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: that's taking tens of thousands of lives over one hundred 838 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: thousand overdose debts each year in America. 839 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's the leading cause of death for people 840 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 4: under the age of forty five, and again people think 841 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 4: that it's the Mexican drug cartels. The drug cartels are 842 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 4: equipped and supplied in directed by the Chinese, so people know, 843 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: of course, buck that the precursors for fentanyl come from China. 844 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 4: But those precursors arrive in basically one port in western 845 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 4: Mexico called Manzanillo. That international terminal is run by a 846 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 4: Chinese company that's very close to the Chinese state. Those 847 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 4: precursors are then shipped to a town in northern Mexico where, 848 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 4: according to leaked government documents we obtained, there are two 849 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 4: thousand Chinese nationals that are actually creating the sentinyl for 850 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 4: the Mexican drug cartels. Then they need to take that 851 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 4: sentinel and put it into pills, because of course, the 852 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 4: people that are dying of sentinel poisoning don't even know 853 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 4: they're taking fentanyl. They think they're taking vicd in or adderall. 854 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 4: So they need pill presses, and they need pill molds 855 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 4: that make it look like the real product when it 856 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 4: really isn't. They get those pill presses in those molds 857 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 4: from China, and according to leaked reports, they are selling 858 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 4: them to the drug cartels at cost. I mean, in 859 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 4: other words, this is not a money making venture. The 860 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: drug cartels need secure communications when they're spreading this poison 861 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 4: in America. They use Chinese apps and Chinese encrypted communication devices. 862 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 4: Why because they know the Chinese will not share those 863 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 4: communications with the US federal four versus. And then the 864 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 4: final part of it, if you are a drug operation, 865 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 4: you need to be able to launder money. You've got 866 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 4: large amounts of cash you have to launder. They used 867 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 4: to in the days when the drug cartels were all about, 868 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 4: you know, cocaine and heroin. They laundered their money in 869 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 4: Latin American banks. They now laundered their money in Chinese 870 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 4: state owned banks, and they oftentimes use Chinese students in 871 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 4: the United States on education visas to do it. So 872 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 4: the Mexican drug cartels are the junior partner. The senior 873 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 4: partner here is absolutely the Chinese CCP. 874 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: Now, Peter, if someone were to google like China crackdown 875 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: on fentanyl, because I recall from the news headlines that 876 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: back in what was it twenty twenty three, chijin Ping, 877 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 2: China vows to crack down on fentanyl chemicals. DEA's own 878 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 2: website says effective May twenty nineteen, China has controlled all 879 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: forms of fentanyl as a class of drugs and fulfilled 880 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 2: the commitment of President She. Are you telling us that 881 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 2: Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party are lying to 882 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: us about all this and still doing it. 883 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 4: Yes, now, they're absolutely lying about it, and honestly they're laughing. 884 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 4: I think in America's response, because consider the Biden administrations 885 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 4: quote unquote get tough with China on sentinel. Are these 886 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 4: sensions that if they find that Chinese officials are involved 887 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 4: in the sentinel trade, they will sanction them and say 888 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 4: you cannot do business in the United States. The Biden 889 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 4: administration did that in twenty twenty one to a guy 890 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: named Wad who is tied to Chinese organized crime, was 891 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 4: also an advisor to the CCP. They sentioned him. Well, 892 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: what happened three months after our Treasury Department sanctioned him publicly, 893 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 4: the Chinese government gave this guy an award and he 894 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 4: actually gave a rousing speech explaining how he was contributing 895 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 4: in his way to helping China to defeat the United States. So, yeah, 896 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 4: it is a ridiculous ruse. And part of the problem 897 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 4: is that this administration will not openly confront China on this. 898 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 4: Joe Biden has said, oh, well, you know there's this. 899 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 4: It's not about finger pointing. You absolutely need finger pointing. 900 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 4: And I believe that the reason that Joe Biden will 901 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 4: not confront China is because the Biden family finances their 902 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 4: ties to China is literally one step removed from the 903 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 4: Chinese gangs involved in the central trade. 904 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 2: We're speaking of Peter Schweizer. His book is Blood Money. 905 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: I've got my copy here. I highly recommend you all 906 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: pick up yours. 907 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: Peter. 908 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Biden is Biden is corrupt and a buffoon and 909 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: a danger to the country and all of that. And 910 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 2: we say that on a regular basis here, Given what 911 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: you are not just alleging, you're laying out in the 912 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 2: book in detail, why aren't more Americans in positions of 913 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 2: leadership outraged and taking act? Because one would think that 914 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 2: our our at least opponents China poisoning Americans and undermining 915 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: us in ways that cost life as well as a 916 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: whole lot of dollars is something that would get the 917 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 2: political class united against. Why isn't that happening? 918 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, great question. I think there's a multiple multitude 919 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 4: of answers to that question. First, you begin with the 920 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 4: financial ties and the corruption, which is obviously the smaller group. 921 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 4: But you know, you look at Joe Biden. I mean, 922 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 4: you know, we first broke the story in twenty eighteen 923 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 4: about the Biden family ties to China. But what I 924 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 4: point out in Blood Money is it becomes perilously close 925 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 4: to the actual fentinyl trade itself. In twenty seventeen, the 926 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 4: Biden family got a five million dollar interest free forgivable 927 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 4: loan from a Chinese businessman alone. They've never repaid. By 928 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 4: the way, that businessman was actually business partners with a 929 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 4: Chinese gangster named jiang an Lu, who's the head of 930 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 4: a criminal gang that set up the Cineloa cartel in 931 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 4: the fentanyl trade. And they are, by the way, the 932 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 4: kings of Sentinels. So what I'm saying is, you literally 933 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 4: have one Chinese businessman who is partners with this gang 934 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 4: leader who set up the sentinel trade for the Cineloa cartel. 935 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 4: The Bidens are on the other side of that equation. 936 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 4: There's one degree of separation. That's why Joe Biden does 937 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 4: not want to have a conversation about China in Fentyl. 938 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 4: You look at other people like, you know, Mitch McConnell. 939 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 4: You know there are there are financial ties there. His 940 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 4: family has a shipping business. Elaine Chas family has a 941 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 4: shipping business in China. If Joe Biden, sorry, if Mitch 942 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 4: mccollin were to say something or do something to offend 943 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 4: the Chinese, they could destroy that family shipping business overnight. 944 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 4: So that's the leverage. So you have people like that. 945 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 4: We could certainly talk about Adam Shipp and Gavin Newsom, 946 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 4: but you also have the larger group that I would 947 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 4: argue there's a lot of people in Washington, Bucky talk 948 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 4: about this all the time that are go along to 949 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 4: get along. They don't want the heavy lift. Once you 950 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 4: accept the reality of what China is doing to the 951 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 4: United States, you cannot have a normal relationship with this country. 952 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 4: You've got to make some very hard choices as a 953 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 4: leader in this country on how you're going to confront 954 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 4: and deal with this issue and protect Americans. And a 955 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 4: lot of them just don't want to make those hard choices. 956 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 4: They want to pretend that the problem doesn't exist. Winston 957 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 4: Churchill called this leaders with vacant eyes during the war 958 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 4: and the run up to the war. They don't want 959 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 4: to confront the reality that are in front. 960 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: Of them now. 961 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 2: Peter, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, 962 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 2: and we're talking about Blood Money Peter's book. I don't 963 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: want to get ahead of ourselves. But we may have 964 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: different leadership in a little less than a year. And 965 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,439 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has certainly shown a willingness to break from 966 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: consensus as it pertains to China and to take actions 967 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 2: that even in his own party were opposed very much. 968 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 2: I remember early on the Trump presidency a lot of 969 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 2: Republicans saying they didn't like it. Given what you lay 970 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 2: out in Blood Money and the research you've done, and 971 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 2: what you've found about this nexus between Chinese Communist Party, 972 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 2: the cartels, the fentanyl, and the ideological undermining and the 973 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 2: buying off of our elites, what does Donald Trump need 974 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 2: to do to start moving this in the right direction 975 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 2: and start making this a two way fight instead of 976 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: a one way fight. 977 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 4: Well, it's a great question. Look, I give Trump a 978 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 4: credit in the book. He raised Centinel directly late at 979 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 4: the feet of the Chinese. Unfortunately, President g promised him 980 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 4: he would deal with it, and I think President Trump 981 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 4: took him at his word, which was a mistake, and 982 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 4: I think that Trump has probably learned from that mistake. 983 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 4: What we need to do is to make clear to 984 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 4: China that the actions they are engaged in our country 985 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 4: are not acceptable and they are going to face consequences 986 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 4: for it. I'm not talking about a kinetic war, but 987 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 4: I'm talking about an economic costs. So why are we 988 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 4: going to allow them access to our financial markets, to 989 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 4: our commercial market as long as they are engaging in 990 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,919 Speaker 4: this kind of behavior. I think you've got to put 991 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 4: all of those things that relate to a sort of regular, 992 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 4: ordinary state to state relationship on a hold until China 993 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 4: starts dealing with these things that they are that they 994 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 4: are engaging in that are killing Americans. And I also 995 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 4: think when it comes to the ideological battle, I mean, look, 996 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,240 Speaker 4: if you look what I lay out in the book Buck, 997 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 4: you know a lot of the violent protests that are 998 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 4: occurring in our country that occur in twenty twenty, and 999 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 4: the pro protests that are occurring today are being led 1000 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: by a handful a small group of radical organizations that 1001 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 4: have pledged allegiance to the CCP. And there's even a 1002 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 4: flow of money indirectly, but a flow of money to 1003 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 4: these organizations coming from China. We need to not only 1004 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 4: talk about China as a nation state. We need to 1005 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 4: do wrong o Reagan did during the Cold War. We 1006 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 4: need to call them an evil empire, and we need 1007 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 4: to engage in the ideological struggle between the two. It 1008 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 4: has been completely one sided. They are trying to destabilize 1009 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,240 Speaker 4: our country and we need to call them out publicly 1010 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 4: and boldly. I still happen to believe that freedom will 1011 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 4: win in that competition, but you actually have to engage 1012 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 4: in the competition, and we have not done that with 1013 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 4: regards to. 1014 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: China blood money. 1015 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 2: Why the powerful turn a blind eye while China kills Americans? 1016 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 2: The book by Peter Schweizer, Go get yours today. Peter, 1017 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: always great to have you on men, great work on 1018 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 2: the book. 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