1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: The Cardinals. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: They finally have a new head coach. Got both Darren 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Irvan and Zach Gerstman with me, Bird Gang. That's right, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: We're going cover three to discuss the hiring of Mike Lafleur. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: It's a special Sunday edition of Cardinals cover two, Episode 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: nine three, and it starts now. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals cover two. 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: Wood to Baker, what Heart? 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: What rent? 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals podcast visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: dot Com slash podcast. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 4: Right up the five hit the ends up for the 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: Cardinal touchdown. Drey McBride, He's been an absolute monster. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: Here's Craig Griolo. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: So good afternoon, gentlemen. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: It's a special Sunday edition of not Cardinals cover two, 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: But how about Cardinals cover three? Because Darren White smoke 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: was seen coming a Cardinals headquarters closer to where you 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: are than where I am. The Cardinals finally have a 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: head coach here on this Sunday, February. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 5: First, before I get to Michael Floor, I just want 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: to say that I'm very excited that Zach is able 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 5: to make it a cover three because I thought he'd 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 5: be too big time after Lebron James quote. 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 6: Tweeted him this weekend. 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: But all that's a. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 6: Story for another day. 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: That's where is covered too. 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 6: There you go. 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Cardinals officially named Michael Floor, saying agreed to 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: a five year contract with him. It's a it's a 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: name that's been out there for quite a while. It's 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 5: a name that a lot of people were connecting with 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: his team for over a week now. The team obviously 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: wanted to have a chance to talk to Clint Kubiak, 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: and that news came out Sunday morning ish, even though 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: there can be no official announcements, but it was basically 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: came across that once the Super Bowl is over, the 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak is going to take the Raiders job. And 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 5: that kind of put the Cardinals in a position where, Okay, 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak is no longer available, we're gonna go with 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 5: Michael Floor. And that doesn't necessarily mean Michael Floor wasn't 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: their first choice in the first place, because they really 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: hadn't had that chance to have that second conversation with 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: Clint Kubiak and I'm guessing we will never officially know, 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 5: but I do know this, guys, that for all the 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: concerns that the Cardinals decided to wait a few extra 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 5: days to talk to Clint Kubiak after having a couple 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 5: of days interview with Michael Floor last week, there was 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: this fear that, oh, you know, what happens if he 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: walks away from it. It sounds like that was never 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 5: really a concern. As soon as the Cardinals reached out, 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 5: he was willing to pull the trigger. And I think 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: the Cardinals probably knew that. So they got their coach, 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: and now come the next steps. 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: It was an interesting process, Zach on Sunday because the 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: news of Kubiak to the Raiders was about eleven thirty. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: An hour later, news broke that Mike Laffleur had agreed 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: to terms or was going to be the Cardinals head coach. 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: And then we get the press release that it's a 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: five year contract. So you let go Jonathan Gannon on 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: February fifth, you hire or name Mike Lafluor on February first, 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: a four week process. So again, it's been a long process. 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, did you get 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: the right guy? We won't know definitively until games are played, 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: but at least there is a box checked, the first 69 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: box checked of the offseason. 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: And if you look at the track record of other 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: people coming under Sean mcvagh to gain these head coaching spots, 72 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: it's been a pretty successful one. So that's something that 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: you kind of have to cross your fingers for and 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: hope that you're going to have similar success in year 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: one as Liam Cohen did with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: the way I look at this is there was obviously 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: kind of alluding to what Darren was talking about a 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: lot of talk with Clint Kubiak, and do you potentially 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: miss out on the opportunity to you you potentially miss 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: out on the opportunity to hire Michael four by going 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: to interview Clint Kubiak. I simply look at this as 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: the Cardinals doing their due diligence many Austin for Michael Bidwell. 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: They both talked about how this was going to be 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: a process that they were going to check a look 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: over and under every single rock, trying to find any 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: single answer out there to find the right guy. And 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: reportedly they told Michael four and all the other candidates 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: that they still had another interview to go, and that 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: interview was with Clint Kubiak. The direction for Clint Kubiak 90 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: reportally is to go to Las Vegas and we'll learn 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: more about the official, the official announcement behind that after 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. However, I do think that the Cardinals 93 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: had Michael Flour as their guy because he was the 94 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: one guy reportedly that they had in the building for 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: two days. They wanted to make sure that he was 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: around and really do their part in learning what makes 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: him tick and how he can make the Arizona Cardinals better. 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: Try to get into that playoff conversation as early as 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: you're number one, because that was something that Michael Bidwill 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: talked about in the press conference. 101 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: So will he be the right guy? We will see. 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 4: Time will tell, But going back to that track record, 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: it seems like the Cardinals might be going to a 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: positive direction. 105 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: So who is Mike Laflour. 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: He's thirty eight years old, turns thirty nine on March third. 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Has spent the past three seasons as the Rams offensive coordinator. 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: Prior to that, two seasons as the Jets offensive coordinator 109 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: when he did call plays. Have not heard whether or 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: not Laflora will call plays for the Cardinals, Darren, and 111 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: I don't know if you got even an inkling on 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: when we might hear from the man himself. I know 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: you've got an article up on Easycardinals dot com with 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: a statement from the cardinals new head coach. But laflour 115 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: didn't call plays in Los Angeles. That was Sean McVay. 116 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: But from everything that I've read and talking with people 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: that whether or not he called plays, he was part 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: of the game planning process and getting the Rams offense 119 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: ready for game day. 120 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 5: I know that's been a big concern over his candidacy 121 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: about you know, not calling plays in LA. It hasn't 122 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 5: been something that's derailed previous offensive coordinators and offensive coaches 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: that have gone on to get head coaching jobs elsewhere 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 5: that had been under McVeigh. 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 6: We'll see what happens in terms of who he's calling. 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 5: I mean, until we know what his staff looks like, 127 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: it's it's kind of hard to get a good handle 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: on that. I would think that he in a lot 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 5: of ways probably would like to call plays again. And 130 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm just guessing that, but most coaches usually lean into that. 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 5: But we'll see. I do think that if he calls plays, 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: he's had enough experience doing it because he was with 133 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: the Jets, and I think that that time was nuanced. 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: That team didn't win a lot of games, but they 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: were struggling with a young Zach Wilson at quarterback. I mean, 136 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: he did get Garrett Wilson to become a very effective 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: rookie wide receiver. They did have a lot of success. 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: I think in his last year with Robert Sala with 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 5: the Jets, they started seven and four before it kind 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: of got sideways. So, you know, I think some of 141 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 5: the concerns shouldn't necessarily be there. 142 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: But we don't know. 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 5: We don't know what the quarterback is going to look 144 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: like here, we don't know exactly what the offense is 145 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: going to look like. And until we get some of 146 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: those answers, I think we're kind of in a holding pattern. 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 5: I think the news today is that they've got a 148 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 5: guy in place, and now we want to see what 149 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: his staff looks like, what is coordinators, who his coordinators 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: are going to be, what the rest of the staff 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: is going to be like. Rarely does a coach get 152 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 5: hired and he doesn't have an idea of who he 153 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: wants his staff to be. So I'm guessing that even 154 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: though I know a lot of people are like, oh, 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 5: he's the last coach hired, he's not going to get 156 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: the staff that he good enough staff. You don't know 157 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 5: who he's been trying to, who he wants to hire. 158 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: You don't know what direction he's going to. And that's 159 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: the part that is now up next. And we're not 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: going to know some of these answers until we start 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: get a chance to ask them questions. Could could there 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: be a press conference? I don't think there's a press 163 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: conference Monday. Could there be one Tuesday? I'm not ruling 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 5: it out, But once you get past Tuesday, we're in 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 5: Super Bowl week. This team in particular has a very 166 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: high profile guy that has a chance to go into 167 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame on Thursday. My guess is, if 168 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: we get past Tuesday, it might be a situation where 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: you want to go ahead and introduce your coach after 170 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl rather than trying to rush into something. 171 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: The one name that has been linked with Lafloor as 172 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: a possibility as a defensive coordinator was Raheem Morris. That 173 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: is not going to happen because moments after Laflora was named, 174 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers, according to reports, are bringing back 175 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris to be their defensive coordinator. 176 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: So again those conversations, Zach. 177 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: As far as staff, do you know Nick ralis the 178 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: loan coordinator that has not left for another job over 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: the weekend or late last week? Jeff Rodgers, according to reports, 180 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: has headed to Buffalo to be the Bills special teams coordinator. 181 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: And we know Drew Petsing is in Detroit to be 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: the Lions offensive coordinator. So that leaves Nick as the 183 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: only coordinator at least to my knowledge that is still 184 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: in the building. So I'll have to wait and see 185 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: on that. But first things first, it's you win with offense, 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: and yeah, defense matters, and you look at the Super 187 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Bowl participants, maybe defense is more important than offense. But 188 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: offensively last year when you looked at the Cardinals, that's 189 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: where there needed to be probably more of an upgrade 190 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: or some tweaks. And you hope with lafur and this 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: Rams team a year ago or twenty twenty five, numbers 192 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: led the league in points per game, yards per game, 193 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: passing yards per game, first downs per game, and total 194 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: offensive touchdowns scored, So roster will dictate a lot of that, 195 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: specifically the quarterback. But at least you have an offensive 196 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: minded head coach who hopefully can now bring some of 197 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: what he had with the Rams to Arizona and. 198 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: Look, get all the wide receivers he's been able to 199 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: work with, and Darren mentioned what Gary Wilson was able 200 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: to do in New York with during his time with 201 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: the Jets. That's what you kind of have to hope 202 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: for a little bit more from Marvin Harrison Junior. How 203 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: he's able to unlock something like that the first thing. 204 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: And you guys know this when we were preparing, I 205 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: was on True Media a lot and was checking because 206 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: we know this offense runs through Trade McBride. Their Rams 207 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: run thirteen personnel more than any other team at a 208 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: significantly high rate. The Rams had more offensive touchdowns for 209 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: a tight end than any other team in the league 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: at seventeen. If you're Trade McBride, you are now rubbing 211 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: your hands together and saying I could do even more 212 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: on top of what was already an historic season because 213 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: you do have that possibility. What's going to be interesting 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: is obviously the quarterback that's going to be something that'll 215 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: be discussed and I'm sure coach will be asked about 216 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 4: that during his opening press conference because everybody is invested 217 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: in what's going to be happening there for QB one, 218 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 4: But you also start to look at that number three 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: overall pick. The Cardinals have been linked to draft a 220 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: lot of offensive linemen. You had the offensive tackle from Miami, 221 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: the one from Utah Spencer Fano that this is going 222 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: to be a very interesting offseason because you do have 223 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 4: a lot of pieces in place. You have a lot 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: of playmakers in place with Trey McBride, with Michael Wilson, 225 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 4: with Marvin Harrison Junior. Do you are you one piece 226 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: away from offense or maybe two pieces away on offense 227 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: from being able to take that jump that I think 228 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: a lot of us were anticipating that they were going 229 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: to take In twenty and twenty five, we saw what 230 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: the Rams offense looked like. Now, granted it's a Sean 231 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 4: McVay offense, but you need other coaches there. You can't 232 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 4: just be McVeigh and that's where Mike Lafour really started 233 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: to make a name for himself. I'm very interested and 234 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure that if it is going to be a 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: press conference on Tuesday, potentially. I don't expect to see 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: Trey McBride there because he's going to be at the 237 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl playing flag football. And if it's gonna be 238 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: on Wednesday, will Trey McBride's may be at the Pro 239 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: am So if it's going to be the following week, 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: then I expect to see a lot of a lot 241 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: of players that are. 242 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Going to be in attendance. 243 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: This is exciting. And now I already seen on social 244 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: media a lot of the guys Walter nowhen the Third 245 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: has posted the graphic welcoming the head coach Elijah Jones, 246 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: a handful of other guys. So the guys seem to 247 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: be excited about it. 248 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: Let me question, though, is Zach the most excited? 249 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he was like beside himself that this was 250 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: taking He's sitting in the office anxiously waiting for. 251 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: The I just I love certainty, and in a league 252 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: full of uncertainty, it's tough to love the one thing 253 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: that is rare. But the Cardinals now have a guy, 254 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: and I now have stats to look at, and I 255 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: could just try to be like Craig Greeb. I don't 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: have the notebook. I don't have the binder full stats, 257 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: but I like to challenge myself, So we're going to 258 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: see what else Michael Ford does really well. 259 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: Officially, though, the Arizona Cardinals not the last team to 260 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: name a head coach. 261 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: We have not yet heard from the Las Vegas. 262 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: Writers, and we will not until the Super Bowl has 263 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: come to a conclusion. Alsenberg Gang, I caution people when 264 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: there is a press conference not to make a big 265 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: deal on who is or who is not, who shows 266 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: up to the press conference, who doesn't show up to 267 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: the press conference. When you're in the off season, guys 268 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: have plans. As at just alluded to, Trey mc pride 269 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: is very busy this week, so whether or not he 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: shows up not a big deal. But I am curious 271 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: what answers we might get. And obviously, Darren, the big 272 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: one is at quarterback, but that might still be at 273 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: least another month or two months away from really knowing 274 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: what you're going to do, because as you looked at 275 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: the off season, all right, you let go Jonathan Gannon. 276 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: All right, you need a head coach. Okay, now the 277 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: next topic of conversation is quarterback. 278 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: What do you do there? You've got three hunderd contract 279 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: right now. 280 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: But the belief is that Kyler Murray won't be here 281 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: at least that's kind of what the outside perspective is, 282 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: is that the Cardinals and Murray will part ways and 283 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: then they'll look to go a different direction. Whether or 284 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: not that is the case, I'm guessing. I'm definitively know 285 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: that that had to have been a conversation during these 286 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: interviews amongst the reported sixteen names the Cardinals talk with. 287 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, obviously that's going to be a big 288 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: part of a conversation you're going to have as a coach. 289 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 5: I'm going to say this if I wagered, and of 290 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: course I would never wager, but if I were that 291 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: that that question is not going to be answered at 292 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: the press conference, I would wager that Michael Fleur's answer 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: to the quarterback is we have three good quarterbacks under contract, 294 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: and where that's a discussion we will have going forward 295 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 5: as we try and figure some stuff out. 296 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 6: So we're not going to know when he speaks for 297 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 6: the first time. 298 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: That's going to be something that happens as we get 299 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: closer to the combine and uh and then free agency. 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: But but yeah, I mean, clearly clearly the quarterback situation 301 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: has to be figured out, But I know that if 302 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: you're a coach, you have to have a plan with 303 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: whatever you might do, and if your ownership and the 304 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: general manager and you're hiring coach, you have to be 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: comfortable with whatever that plan the coach has before you 306 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: hire him. So while they're not going to be announcing 307 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: anything publicly, my guess is privately they already have an 308 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: idea of the moves that they want to make in 309 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: the direction that they might want to go. So what 310 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: that means does that leave some opening, you know, in 311 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: terms of trying to find another quarterback? Possibly, But again 312 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 5: on this day, it's about getting your head coach, and 313 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: quite frankly, as big as the quarterback question is right now, 314 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 5: I think the next big question is the coordinators and 315 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: the coaching staff before we start thinking about the quarterback 316 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: too much. 317 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: The other note about Lafleur, as we talked about, he 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: turns thirty nine in March. 319 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: He is a first year head coach. Darren. We've covered 320 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: this a number of years. 321 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: In fact, if you include Brucerians who did have the 322 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: interim tag but not a permanent head coach, this is 323 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: the sixth straight higher in which the Cardinals are going 324 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: with a first year head coach. Big deal, not a 325 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: big deal. It's obviously a big deal. If it doesn't work, 326 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: not a big deal. 327 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: If it does work, I'm gonna say it's not a 328 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 6: big deal. 329 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 5: And it's not necessarily just because if it works or 330 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: doesn't work that eventually it starts feeling a little bit 331 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: to me, like a little bit to me, like you know, 332 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: everything is their unique situations. Okay, I'm not saying if 333 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: you went out and hired John Harbaugh at the beginning 334 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 5: of this, that doesn't that's not a big difference. Although again, 335 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: one of the reasons John Harbaugh was out of a 336 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: job was because he couldn't quite get over the hump. 337 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: Now we can argue all day about how that all goes, 338 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: but to me, a lot of times, being a head 339 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: coach for the first time is a lot like when 340 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: you're drafting a guy. You think you're getting a guy, 341 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: You're you're bringing somebody in because you think he can 342 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: be successful. It doesn't mean he will. And there's there's 343 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: art to it as much as science, and there's no 344 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: there are no guarantees. And when we go back and 345 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 5: look at the ten openings that were hired. I mean, 346 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson. You can make the argument that before Belichick, 347 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson might have been the best NFL head coach 348 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 5: for a small amount of time that there ever was, 349 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: and he went to Miami, and you know it was 350 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 5: nothing like just because he had had all this success, 351 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 5: it didn't necessarily pay off. So I tend to look 352 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: at these coaches individually. We're not going to know. But 353 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 5: I don't know if if this is any better or 354 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 5: any worse of a higher than Todd Monkin in Cleveland 355 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 5: or Joe Brady in Buffalo, Like do we really know that? 356 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: Like you can guess, But it's all it's all a 357 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: bunch of hooey in a lot of ways, because it'll 358 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: all get proven out on the field. 359 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: Before we let everyone else enjoy their Sunday afternoon and 360 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: the rest of their weekend. 361 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: And Zach, you can take a look at your viral 362 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: post to see how many millions of views. I rather 363 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: he's been on the air here. 364 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: I'd rather not at this point. 365 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 2: You are a big deal at least for this weekend, 366 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens come Monday. 367 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: Maybe this news came out the perfect time so I 368 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: could get off with my phone. 369 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 6: Oh thank you for finishing that sentence. 370 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: Geez one, you don't you don't like you like being 371 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: in the spotlight, Zach? 372 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean no. 373 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: I four point seven million views as of right now 374 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: to that video. 375 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's it's a lot. 376 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 4: I've been getting random like like Evan Turner retweeted it. 377 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: Why did the former seventy six ers first round pick 378 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: retweet it? I don't know, but you know what, people 379 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 4: love love and people the fact that there's some wholesome 380 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: human interactions with each other. 381 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: It's great. 382 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: You're you're a Philly guy and you can't get away 383 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: from that. And that's why even Turner retweeted you. 384 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: Well, what about like Norris Coolelake in the tweeter Jordan Clarkson. 385 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, Darren, Wow. 386 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 6: Is somebody humble bragging right now? It sure feels like it. 387 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm here to talk about Michael Floor 388 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: and it'stead. We're talking about Twitter. 389 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: All right. I'll leave you this last comment. 390 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Because Michael Floor ties to the Rams, and Sean McVay 391 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: also ties the forty nine ers and Kyle Shanahan. So 392 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 2: there is some institutional knowledge at least perhaps that the 393 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: Cardinals now have in their building and a division that 394 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: is the best in the NFL. 395 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: And I think this is going to be a massive shakeup, 396 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: not just the Michael floor higher, but Robert Sawah leaving 397 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: the nfcus Raheem Moore is now re entering. Then you 398 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: have what's going on there with Clint Kobiac. How do 399 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: this How does the Seattle offense look with a new 400 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator? How does Sean mcvagh do with the potentially 401 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: new offensive coordinary. He's had to recycle and add a 402 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: bunch of different people. It's kind of been a revolving there, 403 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: a revolving door there within that OC chair. I think 404 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: the Michael four higher is a great one because, like 405 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: he said in his statement that Darren included in his 406 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: article on Asycardinals dot com, he has faced the Cardinals 407 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: a lot. He knows about the toughness and the challenges 408 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: of playing the Arizona Cardinals. Now he's going to be 409 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: the one that's going to be taking over. He's going 410 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: to be at the helm and he's going to try 411 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: to figure out a way to get this team to compete. 412 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: He's been around a bunch of other teams like you 413 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 4: mentioned that have competed, and the Rams went really far 414 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: in the postseason, and that's something that's encouraging there. If 415 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: you're a Los Angeles now you have to whatever taste 416 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: he got of winning during his time in Los Angeles, 417 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: you have to figure out a way to try to 418 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 4: make it translate. And by hiring Michael four by losing 419 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: Robert Sala in the NFC West with the forty nine ers, 420 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: by losing Clint Kobiak, this is a massive shakeup in 421 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: the West is going to look different next year. 422 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: Other stops for Lafleur in the NFL Falcons, Browns, and 423 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: this little nugget former executive producer jim O Mahundro a 424 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: three time letter winner as a quarterback and safety at 425 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: Elmhurst University in Illinois. 426 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: So now there's there's four quarterbacks in the building. 427 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: Well, Manty Austin for two. 428 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. Wow, Connor Saninger as long as he 429 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: remains in the building as well. 430 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Let's just make sure we name everyone that has thrown 431 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: a football at one time in their life, even Darren 432 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: Irman at one time. 433 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm gessing through the football a little bit. 434 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: I have thrown the football. It was not very well 435 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 5: and it certainly wasn't in any sanctioned game. 436 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: Darren didn't Paris tell you he also used to be 437 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: a quarterback at the time. 438 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 6: Yes, I believe that was part of a story that 439 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 6: I wrote once. 440 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: About a lot of qbs in the building. 441 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: Sure, gentlemen, this has been fun. 442 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: I'll say this, this does have flashbacks to go a 443 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: different time COVID and having to do these resume. But 444 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: I'll see everyone on Sunday, bright and early, and perhaps 445 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: a press conference at some point this week before Darren, 446 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: you go off to Santa Clara and see Larry Fitzgerald 447 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: officially voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 448 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 6: Fingers cross cross, fingers crossed. 449 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Zach go check Twitter. 450 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 4: I have a blast doing so. 451 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lid on this edition. 452 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: Special edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud 453 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 454 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: our executive producer Jim almindro our assodoiate producer Cody Fincher 455 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: for Darren Irvan, Zach Gershman, I'm preg real Luke, we'll 456 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals cover two.