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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're getting back together for

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Speaker 1: more than one weekend.

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Speaker 2: We got a whole season to get through. I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I am with my friend Nick Shook for the first

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Speaker 1: time on a Sunday evening this preseason slash training camp window.

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Speaker 1: We are going around the entire AFC today.

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Speaker 2: Nick.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to do it with you, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: that you got your power back in. Yeah, the Cleveland area.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to have my power on. We'll touch

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Speaker 3: and go there for a few hours today. But we're

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Speaker 3: happy to be back. We're happy to be what appears

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Speaker 3: to be stable, and we're ready to get in some

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Speaker 3: football news.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's get it together.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Power Grid first, Entergy like you're not giving America, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting downgraded to second World country again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason they lost the naming rights

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Speaker 3: to the Brown Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Ooh ooh. We will get to the Browns.

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Speaker 1: We will get to every AFC team, Like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the drill the next two Sundays, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna split up the an AFC and NFC so you

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Speaker 1: feel like you know, the entire league will do the

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Speaker 1: NFC Takeaways on Tuesday this week because we're going to

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Speaker 1: Rams camp on Monday. So let's get it going, and

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Speaker 1: let's start with the AFC West. I'll start here Shook

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Speaker 1: because we got a big contract on Sunday and Rayshawn Slater,

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Speaker 1: gonna be fixed now that he signed a four year,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen million dollar extension, ninety two million

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Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. Dang Man tackle money is now turning into

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Speaker 1: quarterback money. That is the most guaranteed money ever, and

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Speaker 1: it's basically because he's the next up.

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, an All.

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Speaker 1: Pro as a rookie and had a couple of years

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Speaker 1: where he wasn't as healthy, but played excellent. A year ago,

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Speaker 1: sixth lowest pressure rate in the entire NFL, seventh lowest

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Speaker 1: it is a reminder even though the weapons have him

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Speaker 1: about the coaching and the left tackle right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely have to. I hope that they throw

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Speaker 3: left tackle that's worth that kind of money. I think

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Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. It seems as though their

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Speaker 3: But it all starts in the trenches. And at anytime

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Speaker 3: an offensive lineman who's worth that type of money gets

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Speaker 3: paid warms my heart because that means that that team

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Speaker 3: is focused on investing in the right places. We don't

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Speaker 3: have to watch Justin Herbert deal with what CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's tacked on to his fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: so it depends on how you measure it, but in

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Speaker 1: contract issues. I mean, one of the reasons why Philip

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Speaker 1: they've taken care of their business lately. And yeah, their

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Speaker 1: the Quentin Johnston hype, just like a little I am

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Speaker 1: But day after day, Daniel Popper, who does a great

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Speaker 3: Well, they have Lad McConaughey, which always makes me feel

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean he's like a much better Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what you're saying because Quentin Johnson's first year was so

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Speaker 3: going to be it for Quentin Johnson. I saw enough

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of consistency and dependability and that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna go over stories that aren't headline news,

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Speaker 1: but it's one of my favorite things about this time

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Speaker 1: They've actually had Jalen Rager with their first team most

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Speaker 3: So just something to watch, you know. And I would

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Speaker 3: be more concerned about this if they started, well, I

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Speaker 3: is a strange issue, like this is not something that

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Speaker 2: First was Josh Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Josh Simmons, who fell to number thirty two in the draft,

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Speaker 1: or number thirty one rather, has been the first team

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs traded down. I forgot about that weird one

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Speaker 2: He's been out, but when.

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Speaker 1: He returned Sunday, those two guys were battling and splitting

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Speaker 1: But like if every team knew this guy was healthy

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Speaker 1: Jalen Morris sliding in at left guard. And suddenly you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when you say three really good options,

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Speaker 3: I was like, is Juwan Taylor a really good option?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not the money he's making, but we've talked about

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Speaker 3: let them keep getting away with this? Except it's the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: except last year they swung and miss, so it feels

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Speaker 3: like redemption. Obviously it's on paper this point. But you're

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Speaker 3: kind of an unknown if they realized he was as

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Speaker 3: for example, I was one of my nuggets, and you

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Speaker 3: know the Back Together Weekend highlights from Sunday, which was

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Speaker 3: Mike Dana talking highly of Josh Simmons saying he's a

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Speaker 3: Sky's limit for him. And I've heard this over and

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Speaker 3: the New Heights podcast Jason and Travis Kelsey were talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We I did a podcast with me and a Chimes

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Speaker 1: putting the pads on Monday around the league, and so

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Speaker 1: we don't want to draw huge conclusions. Just fun to

436
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Speaker 1: get some of the nuggets and you can with with

437
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Speaker 1: like where players are playing. And for instance, Roman Wilson

438
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Speaker 1: has consistently been their wide receiver too. When they have

439
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Speaker 1: two receivers on the field, Roman Wilson is the two

440
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Speaker 1: next to Dka. So that's something that you can take

441
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Speaker 1: a big takeaway from that shocked, but also that's like, okay,

442
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 1: that confirmed maybe what we thought. Calvin Austin has kind

443
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Speaker 1: of been the slot you mentioned, you know, Rogers and Ramsey.

444
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Speaker 1: It sounds like two out of three of Rogers's days

445
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: were pretty rough, and that Ramsey for the most part

446
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Speaker 1: is like in the nickel when it's you know, in

447
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 1: the slot when they're playing nickel defense and then when

448
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: you only have four defensive backs on the field, which

449
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen that often in twenty twenty five anyways. But

450
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Speaker 1: he's playing a little safety, so you know, they're going

451
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Speaker 1: to make sure they find a way to keep him

452
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Speaker 1: on the field. And that's a change for him in

453
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Speaker 1: terms of what he's done throughout his career. Let's get

454
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Speaker 1: to your brownies.

455
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Speaker 3: Come on, come on, all right, Well, we all know

456
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Speaker 3: what they're talking about in Borea, which is the quarterback situation.

457
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Speaker 3: There is some news that has become apparent. Can you

458
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Speaker 3: Pickett dealing with the hamstring injuries? Expected to miss multiple

459
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Speaker 3: practices that was supporting to Mary kaycabitat Cleveland dot com.

460
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Speaker 3: A reevaluation set for some time next week. Anytime you

461
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Speaker 3: hear anybody suffering a hamstring issue in camp, you get

462
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Speaker 3: a little concern because those injuries can pop back up later.

463
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Speaker 3: They have to be treated with extra caution because of

464
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Speaker 3: the likelihood that they can be aggravated, which, by the way, aggravated,

465
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Speaker 3: not reag aggravated. So what I think this does is

466
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Speaker 3: actually makes this quarterback competition even more interesting because the

467
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Speaker 3: distribution of reps has been the talk of the town

468
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Speaker 3: through the first you know, four days or so of camp.

469
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Speaker 3: How are they splitting them? And mostly it's been Picket

470
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Speaker 3: getting the most, Dylan Gabriel right behind him or even

471
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Speaker 3: with him, Chador slightly behind them, and then Flacco in

472
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Speaker 3: last place, which makes sense. But if you look at

473
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Speaker 3: it with Picket on the sideline, now it becomes a

474
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Speaker 3: two rookie competition because you know what you have in

475
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. So I think that's gonna be really intriguing

476
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Speaker 3: this week, especially as they put the pads on. Who

477
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Speaker 3: is going to be better, who's going to be worse opposite?

478
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Speaker 3: You know, you just talked about when an offense is struggling,

479
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Speaker 3: is it because the defense is good or because the

480
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Speaker 3: offense is just bad or needs to get there? Like

481
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Speaker 3: you said, defense is usually ahead. The Browns defense is

482
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Speaker 3: very much ahead of the Browns offense so far, which

483
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Speaker 3: is to be expected with this sort of quarterback competition

484
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Speaker 3: that's going on right now. Andrew Barry said that he

485
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Speaker 3: could see a scenari which they keep all four, which

486
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Speaker 3: is interesting because you're sacrificing a roster spot somewhere else

487
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Speaker 3: in order to keep all four. Again, it's early though,

488
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Speaker 3: so we'll see. And you know what, because I have

489
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Speaker 3: to give a shout to my Kent Date Golden Flashes

490
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders threw a touchdown pass to a former Golden Flash,

491
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Speaker 3: Luke Flore who's in campus the Browns, and that just

492
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Speaker 3: makes me happy.

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, does he have a chance to make the team?

494
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Speaker 2: No practice squad?

495
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Speaker 5: No?

496
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Speaker 3: Okay, no, probably not.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, chadur has been basically with a third team until

498
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Speaker 1: Saturday and then reportedly had a few good throws. Supposedly

499
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Speaker 1: the offense has just gotten overwhelmed. So I reached out

500
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Speaker 1: to our friend Andrew Siciliana, who's there every day and

501
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: he's the Browns radio voice and he's there covering training camp,

502
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Speaker 1: and yeah, he said the same thing. Defense has been ahead.

503
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Speaker 1: The defensive line has has a chance to be really good.

504
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: Like Mason Graham, the top ten pick has showed up

505
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Speaker 1: there and he's ready to prove me wrong who doubted

506
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Speaker 1: his pick and has had a nice week.

507
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Speaker 2: But I think it did get a little loss in

508
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Speaker 2: the shuffle.

509
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Speaker 1: We might have mentioned it briefly, but Jordan Hicks retired,

510
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Speaker 1: which you don't think is a huge deals kind of

511
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Speaker 1: a journeyman, but he started most of their season last year.

512
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Speaker 1: And then if you think about the difference. They lost

513
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Usu Corromoa, you know, this season because of injury,

514
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Speaker 1: and then Jordan Hicks retires. That was supposed to be

515
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Speaker 1: your two starting inside linebackers and now you lose them both.

516
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Speaker 1: And maybe Carson Sweshener, who is like the rookie second

517
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Speaker 1: round pick, top of the second round, like who hasn't

518
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Speaker 1: played that much, is like has the green dot on offense,

519
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Speaker 1: so you know, that could be a lot on him.

520
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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford hasn't been out there. Andrew mentioned as well,

521
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Speaker 1: but said Dylan Sampson, the rookies looked pretty good. But

522
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Speaker 1: overall the vibe I buy Andrew Berry by the way,

523
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Speaker 1: that you could keep four quarterbacks there, and let's not

524
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Speaker 1: be too precious about a roster spot for the Browns.

525
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Speaker 1: If they want to keep picking in Flacco, that's fine.

526
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Speaker 1: I think it's obvious they're going to keep the two rookies.

527
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Speaker 1: They're not going to try to clear them through waivers.

528
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Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the yeah, I would agree, but I think the

530
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Speaker 3: green dot thing is what actually attracted my attention there.

531
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Speaker 3: They did bring in Jerome Baker in the offseason. He's

532
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Speaker 3: a local kid, so I could see that being a

533
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Speaker 3: possibility for them, but yeah, it's it's kind of weird

534
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Speaker 3: with this group now. I want to say I was

535
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Speaker 3: on the Mason Graham train from the beginning. So if

536
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Speaker 3: he does ball out, and again this is no pads, like,

537
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Speaker 3: we can't really effectively judge a lot of the interior

538
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Speaker 3: play right now without pads. Once those come on, if

539
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Speaker 3: he starts to make a difference, I'm gonna be victory

540
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Speaker 3: lap in that.

541
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Speaker 5: Well.

542
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Speaker 1: Some of the dumbest victory laps ever are from people

543
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Speaker 1: like myself or whoever. And I did learn this, don't

544
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Speaker 1: take any victory laps in August, none of it.

545
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Speaker 2: You just can't. The games haven't actually started. I don't know,

546
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Speaker 2: but trees are on.

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know, even Josh Simmons, which it seems like

548
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Speaker 1: it's going great. It's like, yeah, but what if he

549
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Speaker 1: gets out there when it actually matters any stings?

550
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Speaker 2: Who knows? All right, let's get to the Ravens.

551
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Ravens. Not actually a lot of buzz

552
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: out of that camp right now. But jyr Alexander went

553
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Speaker 3: on record earlier this week when asked about how he's

554
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Speaker 3: adjusted to being in Baltimore over the last month or

555
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: so since he signed with the Ravens. He said he

556
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: is in heaven. He loves it, Like literally said, I'm

557
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: in heaven. The culture there is fitting him. He is

558
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: excited to play a key part in a defense that

559
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Speaker 3: he thinks will be an important part of this team.

560
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: This team, I mean they're loaded on both sides of

561
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Speaker 3: the ball. So thinking that, you know, the defense got

562
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: paced to the offense that was incredibly productive last year,

563
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: is kind of crazy. But on paper they looked really good.

564
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: They were off today Sunday. But the tes Walker hype

565
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: train starting to build, and we heard this from them

566
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Speaker 3: earlier I think in OTAs that they felt like he

567
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Speaker 3: was going to make a big stride in year two.

568
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Speaker 3: And he's made some nice plays. He caught a thirty

569
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Speaker 3: yard pass over the middle from Lamar Jackson on Saturday

570
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: and that was one of at least six catches on Saturday.

571
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Speaker 3: So he's making the most of his opportunities in his

572
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Speaker 3: second training camp. And finally, Greg, we talked about a

573
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Speaker 3: kicker competition, kind of you know, tongue in cheek last time.

574
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: Tyler Loop is on fire twenty three of twenty three

575
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: so far, he owns that job.

576
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Speaker 1: I love that you're hitting me with all these items.

577
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I have had no idea about that job. So that's over.

578
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: Loops locked it down. I mean, you draft a kicker

579
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Speaker 1: to replace Justin Tucker. He's gonna have to have a

580
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: terrible training game to not get that job. But it

581
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: sounds like it's the opposite. Maybe he'll be the next

582
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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. You mentioned JayR. I actually had flagged a

583
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Speaker 1: different quote. He was supposedly playing really well, making some

584
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Speaker 1: good pass breakups on his first day, and he thought

585
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: Lamar was trying him a little bit.

586
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Speaker 5: Oh Lamar, Yeah, yeah, he threw a back shoulder. You know,

587
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 5: he tried to throw a back shoulder on me with

588
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: d hops. So you know I had to give him

589
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: a little a little jazz about that. You know, I said,

590
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: come on, man, I know it's my first day, but man,

591
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 5: you know it's still meat. You know it's still meat.

592
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 5: So but you know it's always fun. Man, we can

593
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 5: joke like that.

594
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: Man, there they are deeper because there was a quote

595
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: and I know, I know it's July, but Kyle Hamilton's

596
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: saying he thinks Nate Wigans, who supposedly had a really

597
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: great first week, could be one of the best cornerbacks

598
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: in the league that he's had hand his hands all

599
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: over football's in practice. So man, that one, two three.

600
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: If jay r Alexander can stay healthy at cornerback is

601
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: really good and if tes Walker, if they're just a

602
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: little deeper even at wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins, I don't

603
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: know how much to fall for it, but making a

604
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: lot of sideline type of catches. Can he have a

605
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: role as a third, fourth receiver type of guy. It's

606
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: a really fascinating team. I'm not saying this is their

607
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: last chance because it's the Ravens. They're always successful, but

608
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: they do have a ton of free agents this season,

609
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: so they there will be a lot of turnover after

610
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: this year. They have Kyle Vanoy, Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likeley, Tyler, Limnderbaum,

611
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Travis Jones, and Odafeoway. Those were the ones quickly that

612
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: came up with who are free agents. Were just a

613
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: ton of starters. So it's a it's go time for

614
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens, even though so many of their great players

615
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: are young. Let's get to the Bengals to wrap up

616
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Speaker 1: the AFC North.

617
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: All right, Cincinnati, what do we want to know about Cincinnati. Well,

618
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart's finally signed. The great I don't know, Skyline

619
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: Chilli nightmare is over. They got their first round pick

620
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: in the building, which is great. And he didn't, you know,

621
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Speaker 3: really get much out of it, like you said earlier,

622
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: So that's handled. That's done with. He spoke very loftily

623
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 3: about his goals and everything that he wants to you know,

624
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: threaten Alden Smith's rookie record of sacks and everything else,

625
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: and you know he was the last guy to really

626
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: do it. You know, he's got to get his fet underneathhim.

627
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: But he did get on the practice field, which is good.

628
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: Lucas Patrick the guard is wearing a sleeve on his

629
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: calf after exiting practice on Friday. He did not practice

630
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Speaker 3: on Sunday. So a little bit concerned because we know

631
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: that the instability on the offensive line has been a

632
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: running issue for the Bengals over the last few years.

633
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: And we'll go back to kickers, Greg, because I know

634
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: you love kickers. Evan McPherson perfect eighteen for eighteen, The

635
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: guy who had an incredible rookie season, hit some bumps

636
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: in the road recently. Starting off on the right foot

637
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: pun unintended in twenty twenty.

638
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Five, sneaky big story for them. I saw that featured

639
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: a little bit.

640
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I think that was the athletic that yeah, like he

641
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: was one of the best kickers in the league is

642
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: couple of seasons and really had a downturn and now

643
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: has changed his motion as he missed a kick that

644
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: would be big for them. And yeah, maybe it's because

645
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick has been out partly, but I think they've

646
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: just been giving Dylan Fairchild, who's a rookie guard all

647
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: the snaps with the starters Jermaine Burton. We'll see, but

648
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: so far everything has been really positive. Second year player,

649
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: very talented, who just had a disastrous rookie season. They

650
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Speaker 1: wanted him to have a big role, but he's very

651
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Speaker 1: talented and so he's started to make some consistent noise.

652
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Speaker 2: We'll see if that keeps up.

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Speaker 1: And I heard Shamar Stewart talking about his agent, like

654
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Speaker 1: that's who I want with me in the foxhole, Like

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Speaker 1: guys who will fight for me.

656
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Speaker 2: But in the end, they this whole holdout. It just

657
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Speaker 2: seems stupid from both ends.

658
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Speaker 1: All he got out of it was they gave him

659
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Speaker 1: more money out of his signing bonus now instead of

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Speaker 1: it being delayed till December. He didn't really get anything

661
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Speaker 1: in particular out of it, So it just seems like.

662
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Speaker 3: He and I think he said he just both sides

663
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Speaker 3: agreed that he needed to be on the field, like

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Speaker 3: let's end this madness.

665
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was almost like the Bengals gave him something,

666
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Speaker 1: just very small just to get him back without actually

667
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Speaker 1: breaking their principles. So they more or less got their way.

668
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Speaker 1: Before we get to the AFC East, just some quick

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Speaker 1: hitters from the NFC that I just if you're listening

670
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Speaker 1: to this show, the ideas, we want you updated on everything.

671
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Speaker 1: It really hasn't been like a crazy huge news week

672
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Speaker 1: I feel like around the NFL, and that's good because

673
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Speaker 1: a lot of times huge news at this time of

674
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Speaker 1: year are injuries. Unfortunately, there were a few Cardinals lost.

675
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Speaker 1: The starting cornerbacks Starling Thomas not a household name, but

676
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Speaker 1: it's literally the second starting cornerback they've lost for the season,

677
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: which is terrible luck. Sean Murphy Bunting is their nickelback.

678
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Speaker 1: Starling Thomas was supposed to be outside. He is out

679
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Speaker 1: with the torn acl for the season. Terry McLaurin returned

680
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Speaker 1: to training camp or showed up to training camp on Sunday,

681
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Speaker 1: but he's not practicing. They're saying he's out with an

682
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Speaker 1: ankle injury. So the holdout is out, but the hold

683
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Speaker 1: in is in. Matthew Stafford is going to be out

684
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Speaker 1: another week. Disappointed to hear that because we were hoping

685
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Speaker 1: to maybe see him at RAMS practice on Monday. But

686
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Speaker 1: more time for Jimmy g Starting to get a little

687
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Speaker 1: concerned that a thirty seven year old can't practice for

688
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Speaker 1: a week and a half with a back injury, and

689
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Speaker 1: that the hope is that he's ready for a week

690
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Speaker 1: on that. That's a little little concerning. Eli Apple is

691
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: back in the league, and a couple of contracts for veterans.

692
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Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson got a big one, Josh mattelis in Minnesota.

693
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Speaker 1: That is your NFC update. I don't know if anything

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Speaker 1: strikes you as particularly interesting there.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I liked how the Cardinals looked going into this camp

697
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Speaker 3: in terms of depth. That depth is going to be

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Speaker 3: tested and it's going to be young guys very quickly,

699
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Speaker 3: Like the pick of Will Johnson. Will Johns would have

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Speaker 3: been a first round pick out of Michigan if he

701
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Speaker 3: hadn't gotten hurt last year. And I love that selection

702
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Speaker 3: when they made it. He's going to be asked to

703
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Speaker 3: do a lot, I think, very quickly for them, and

704
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Speaker 3: so it's going to be an early test of him

705
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Speaker 3: as well. And they have other young guys in that group,

706
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Speaker 3: including Will Johnson's collegiate rival Ohio States Denzel Burke, a

707
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Speaker 3: guy who flashed as a freshman, never really got any better.

708
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Speaker 2: We'll see.

709
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Speaker 3: But suddenly the younger guys that you thought, well, maybe

710
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Speaker 3: look compete for a roster spot and play special teams,

711
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Speaker 3: they're gonna be asked to do a little bit more.

712
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Speaker 2: Now I should have spelled out.

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Speaker 1: Eli Apple signed with the forty nine ers, so a

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Speaker 1: depth piece there. And it's interesting they signed Jake Ferguson

715
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys coming off a bad season and with Michael

716
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Speaker 1: Parsons contract just hanging.

717
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Speaker 2: In the wind.

718
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Speaker 3: That's getting uglier by the day by the way.

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Speaker 2: They just do things differently.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I actually think they're buying low

721
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Speaker 1: on Jake Ferguson, that it's gonna be a team friendly

722
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Speaker 1: deal in the end, and they believe in him as

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Speaker 1: a player despite a down season. So Ultimately, I think

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Speaker 1: that was a smart move for them and mattell Us,

725
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: the safety for the Vikings, just one of the most

726
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Speaker 1: unique players in the league. It's cool to see him

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Speaker 1: get rewarded.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: The AFC East Joey Bosa back at practice, and I

730
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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting they kept Greg Russo on his

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Speaker 1: normal side. He had been moving around depending on who

732
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Speaker 1: had been coming in for them over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Like Von Miller, he's got his side. Bosa's got to

734
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Speaker 1: kind of work around him. Bosa can play either side.

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Speaker 1: But he is back, he's practicing, so that is good

736
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Speaker 1: early news for the Bills. They have been starting Tredevious

737
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Speaker 1: White so far over Maxwell Harston, their first round pick,

738
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Speaker 1: so that that's a battle that I will be watching

739
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Speaker 1: to see if Harston takes over. And unfortunately, Harston was

740
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Speaker 1: involved in a play on Sunday shook where it looked

741
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Speaker 1: like he might have been a little over aggressive and

742
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Speaker 1: Tyrrel Shavers, who had a real good chance I think

743
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Speaker 1: to make this team appear to have a bad injury

744
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: and ankle injury after Harston kind of took him out

745
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: by the ankle in a contested play. And they've had

746
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Speaker 1: a few injuries at that position at the back end

747
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Speaker 1: of the wide receiver roster.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to be too panicked about.

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Speaker 1: But Elijah Moore, Curtis Samuel, and Tyrell Shavers all injured.

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Speaker 1: Shavers might be the only one that's that's really serious.

751
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Speaker 1: But some of the Bill's depth not really their top

752
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: three guys though, so you know it's not something that's

753
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Speaker 1: gonna panic Bills fans. But man, you hate to see

754
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: obviously injury like that to any one, especially like a

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Speaker 1: young player trying to like start his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, but really I'm more concerned

757
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 3: about Curtis Samily, even if it's not serious, just because

758
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Speaker 3: I think he cracks that that top three in some situations.

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Speaker 2: Hm.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, unless you have more confidence than Joshua Palmer,

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Speaker 3: which you know that's up to you.

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Speaker 2: The money says he's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: The money says josh Palmer is gonna he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the two alongside.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I buy that, but all right,

766
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Speaker 3: well we'll take it for what it's worth. I think

767
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: that sameel might bring a little bit more of the table,

768
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Speaker 3: So you hope that those guys get back, But nothing

769
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Speaker 3: that's really overly concerning across the board here. I do

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Speaker 3: like the idea of Tredevius White coming back and making

771
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Speaker 3: a difference, but it is camp. It's still early, and

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Speaker 3: you know, we mentioned this about the line. I thought

773
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: about this with the Ravens too, But like Nate Wiggins

774
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Speaker 3: and his you know slight frame and everything else, when

775
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: the pads come on at defensive back too, that really

776
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: tells you where guys because the physicality gets involved. Tarnavius

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00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: White is not the youngest guy anymore. Does he still

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Speaker 3: have the speed and agility to keep up with guys

779
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Speaker 3: because that was an issue in recent years.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a test of his fair and

781
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: Maxwell Harriston, is he a guy that can tackle in

782
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Speaker 1: the open field that's a smaller cornerback.

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Speaker 2: We will see a couple other little items there. I noticed.

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Speaker 1: Joe Basalia of the Athletics said there really is a

785
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Speaker 1: quarterback two battle there and he thought Mike whitees looked

786
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: better than Mitch Drubisky. So could be someone that plays

787
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: this year for the Bills. Bill's fans hope that will

788
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Speaker 1: only happen in Week eighteen because they've like clinched a

789
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: bye or something like that Dawson Knox, by the way,

790
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: who was injured to start camp there tight end was activated.

791
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Speaker 1: The good news out of Jets camp and I could

792
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Speaker 1: not find a ton of Jets news, which is to

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Speaker 1: the credit of Aaron Donald. I mean, Aaron Glenn bather

794
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: that he's kind of having a no drama news free

795
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: camp for the most part. But Justin Fields already back

796
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Speaker 1: to seven on sevens in position, all drills. Toe injury

797
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: really proved to be nothing, and I supposedly look pretty

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Speaker 1: good in camp early, so like, I'm not I'm not

799
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Speaker 1: worried about just like the fact that Justin Fields is

800
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Speaker 1: already back on the field. When I said that that injury,

801
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: like it started making me wonder if the Jets vibes

802
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: are just gonna overtake Aaron Gunn. The fact that Fields

803
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: immediately was back on the field, It's maybe a flip

804
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: a flip of it. It's like, no, these aren't the

805
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: same old Jets.

806
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like I've bought for as much

808
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: stock as you've bought in the Raiders this offseason. I've

809
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: bought just as much with the Jets because they have

810
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: an adult in the room and Aaron Glenn Finally, this

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00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: feels like a professional organization, at least from the outside.

812
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: At this point in year. It's still early. I'm not

813
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: buying in that much yet, but it just feels like

814
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: they are changing their culture and the vibe around them.

815
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 3: And yeah, a dislocated tone coming back there, you know,

816
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: very quickly for Justin Field isn't necessarily an example of it.

817
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, man, this is a team that

818
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: people need to keep an eye on. Not necessarily because

819
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: they're absolutely loaded or that they should have Super Bowl aspirations,

820
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: but I do think they're gonna be better than most

821
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: people think. It starts with they're Glenn and these are

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Speaker 3: the examples of.

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Speaker 1: Why totally agree with you. They're they're making Breece Hall

824
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: earn that running back spot. I think Brandon Allen is

825
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: going to be featured, and their Breese Hall knows he's

826
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Speaker 1: not getting a contract.

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Speaker 2: That was interesting.

828
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Speaker 1: Connor Hughes, who covers them for SNY, he thought he

829
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: said something that he thought Will McDonald is probably having

830
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: the best summer of anyone on defense, so that would

831
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: be really big for them if they can get a

832
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: more consistent pass rush out of Will McDonald, who I

833
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: know has put up sack totals, but as an every down,

834
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: consistent difference maker, maybe hasn't been that dude.

835
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Speaker 2: They're looking for receivers to step up.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like early Malachi Corley, who was a pretty

837
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: high pick last year. It has not been that guy,

838
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: So that's someone to watch. And then, just because I

839
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: was unaware of this fact before Sunday, there are two

840
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: gentlemen by the name of Harrison MeVis or Mevs and

841
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Caden Davis who are competing to be the Jets kicker

842
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: this year. Harrison MeVis and Cayden Davis. So just just

843
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: the more you know, you know what I mean.

844
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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I didn't know you of those guys existed.

845
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: Right, me neither.

846
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you have a kicker battle like that,

847
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: they're also battling against whoever gets cut as a veteran,

848
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Speaker 1: for instance, like a Nick Folk. I can remember a

849
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when the Patriots kind of immediately

850
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: got snapped up and took over a job. So those

851
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: guys might always take your job. But I'm team Mevs.

852
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm team Mevs.

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00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, And I'm sure it's just because you

854
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: like his last name. Better. I don't know. But it's

855
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: also like the long snapper battle that's going on in

856
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: Cincinnati right now, two guys by the name of cal

857
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: Adamas and Will Wagner.

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00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: There you go, Wow, you went deep. Let's go to

859
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

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00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: Biggest story for them this week to me is that

861
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is just fully out there taking every snap,

862
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of shocking, like not just that he's not on pup,

863
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: but that he's taking every team rep in everything. And

864
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, I follow all the Patriots beat reporters. It's

865
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: a really good beat crew. Taylor Kyle's is one of

866
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Speaker 1: the best doing it right now. And to me, he says,

867
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver battle, which seems so wide open, doesn't

868
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: seem that controversial, like unless it changes. He really sees

869
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: the exposition as Kashawan Boody right now as the starter

870
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: in Kyle Williams is behind him, but that one's kind

871
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: of up for grabs. The Z position is kind of

872
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: clearly Stefan Diggs and Kendrick Bourne, who has a history

873
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels and I think he's going to make

874
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: this team, is behind him. And then in the slot

875
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: it's to Mario Douglas and it's this undrafted kid Fton Chishlm.

876
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: And who knows if Jalen Polk makes this team would

877
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: even though he was a second round pick a year ago.

878
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: My guess is he gets traded for like a late

879
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: round pickswap. He has not even been out on the

880
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: field practicing because he hasn't been healthy, so he has

881
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: to to get into that mix. Maybe they try to

882
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: like sneak that kid Chisholm through waivers or whatever it is.

883
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: But that's the Patriots wide receiver update. And at this

884
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: point I'd be surprised if to Mario Douglas and Stephan

885
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Diggs are not like their top two receivers at least

886
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: to start the season.

887
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 2: Those are the guys they're going to be and hoping

888
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: the best for. It's not the best group.

889
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe Taylor Kyles is an NFL media of

890
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: them as well, So shout out to Taylor. But I

891
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: have to point out the fact that a guy who

892
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: is out right now, is there a room for him

893
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: on this roster if it shakes out the way you

894
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: just described it, which is the barefoot Wonder himself.

895
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: MC collins forgot about Mac Collins somewhat, yes, because they

896
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: gave him like three and a half million dollars guaranteed

897
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna have to find a spot. And

898
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: so he's also been a good special teamer. He's he's

899
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: coming off a good year. You can keep six receivers

900
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: plenty of teams due he certainly you know seven is

901
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: stretching it. It might be a situation if everyone's healthy

902
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: where both Polk and a guy like Kendrick Bourne could

903
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: go in like a very low level trade.

904
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: Though at the end of at the end of camp.

905
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: To me and Kishon Boody, like they like his lot,

906
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Like it's funny because they got these guys who are

907
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: all about the same level. From that list, they actually

908
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: might have like the most interesting wide receiver cuts of

909
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: any team in the league, and yet they don't have.

910
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: But it's because like they don't really have a good

911
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver group, but they are very deep.

912
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: So that was a smart there's potential there. This is

913
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: nothing to do with your Patriots homersm. It's the fact

914
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: that there's potential there and it's more than a lot

915
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: of teams can say in.

916
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Terms of depth. Yes, but I would still put them

917
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: bottom five overall.

918
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: One thing I noticed watching you know, the camp reports there,

919
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: it's like they're incredibly thin at the tackle position. Their

920
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: seventh round pick, Michael Bryant right now is like their

921
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: swing tackle. This other guy, Demantre Jacobs, who was a

922
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: disaster that was like a late pick up for them,

923
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: is the other guy competing there.

924
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's rough.

925
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: If Morgan Moses gets hurt, who's thirty four years old,

926
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: like man, that is rough. They're using last year's pretty

927
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: high pick Kayden Wallace at guard.

928
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: It spoldly.

929
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: The offensive line has been bad at camp so far.

930
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: The one positive is their third round pick, Jared Wilson

931
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: has been progressing pretty quickly, playing a lot with the

932
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: starters at center, at guard, competing with Cole Strange, but

933
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: also competing at center with Garrett Bradberry, and so their

934
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: rookie class might be fun. A lot of Traveon Henderson

935
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: is wide open all the time, and Josh McDaniel's cooking

936
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: up special running back wheel routes down the field.

937
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: So you know, good good news for you, because I

938
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: know you like Jared Wilson.

939
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: I love Jared.

940
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: I know you like Travion too.

941
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: Love Love Jared Wilson, and they threw a lot of

942
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: resources of the offensive line. To hear that they're looking

943
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: thin right now is concerning, But hey, look you got

944
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: you got to nail a couple of blue chip guys.

945
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: I think Jared Wilson's gonna prove to be one of

946
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: those guys.

947
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, you got to be right at about Will Campbell.

948
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: But when I say thin, yeah, like on paper, after

949
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: the top two at tackle specifically, it's really thin.

950
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: They're a little deeper at guard.

951
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: And then I've mentioned it before, but Christian Barmore, who

952
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: has all pro potential and was sidelined by those blood

953
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: clots last year by all accounts, has showed up and

954
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: has been fantastic at camp. So that would be huge

955
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: for them. Let's finish the AFC East with the Dolphins.

956
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: Since we last talked, we confirmed for sure Ardi Burns

957
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: has a torn acl He was a depth cornerback piece.

958
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: Cater Kohu left practice with a leg injury. He's supposed

959
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: to be their nickelback. It's unsure how serious that is.

960
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: And then they signed two guys we know, one of

961
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: whom I think was in my top one oh one,

962
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Jack Jones and Mike Hilton both signed contracts with the

963
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. I think I slid Hilton into the very

964
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: end of my top one oh one. But Jack Jones

965
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: apparently went out there like first day and he was

966
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: like their first team cornerback and is making plays. That's

967
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: the kind of situation they are. They're signing guys off

968
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: the street and he is probably their best he might

969
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: be their best cornerback and he was available.

970
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: Man, That's that's weird.

971
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: Unless you're buying the storm Duck high which started last preseason. Yeah,

972
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: this is a team that can I mean, I understand

973
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: why they traded Jalen Ramsey. We knew that was basically inevitable.

974
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: But for a team that just traded Jalen Ramsey, they

975
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: are outrageously thin at the position right now, which is

976
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: very concerning when you add in the fact that cater

977
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Go who left practice, and they had injuries elsewhere with

978
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: Ardie Burns, so you know, I just had to look

979
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: it up. Right now. Mike Hilton, I feel like he's

980
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: been in the league forever thirty one, so might be

981
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: his last week, yes, but at an NFL career, But

982
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: I still I've loved him over the course of his

983
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: many different stops in the NFL, so maybe he ends

984
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: up contributing.

985
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: Started to play a little more Madden lately, and Mike Hilton.

986
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, I love a good slot cornerback. I mean

987
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: I love watching that in real life, but I love

988
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: being the cornerback, the slot cornerback blitzing and Madden and

989
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Mike Hilton, you know, one of the goats at that.

990
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: One thing I noticed this last week was the whole

991
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: this whole Tyreek Hill story. It's weird down there. Like

992
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: all off season long, Tyreek Hill has been saying how

993
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: he hasn't taken his career seriously enough and he hasn't

994
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: been a leader. And there's been a lot of talk

995
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: about the comments that he made at the end of

996
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: last season in the locker room where he all but

997
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, quit on the team and didn't really express

998
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: any remorse about it afterwards. In week eighteen and to

999
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa was pretty real about it in

1000
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: front of the microphone earlier this week, saying, you know,

1001
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Tyreek's got some ground to make up that he needs

1002
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: to prove it that he's here and a leader. And

1003
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: he was on NFL Network inside training camp this weekend

1004
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: and they circled back to those comments.

1005
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 5: But I don't feel it's me talking bad about my

1006
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: teammate kind of what you said. I'm just trying to

1007
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: hold him accountable because that's what we're trying to do

1008
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: with with everybody on our team. And if this is

1009
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 5: what we say the standard is, then that's what the

1010
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: standard is and nobody's exempt from it.

1011
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: Spicy Tua, I like it.

1012
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: He's just being honest, and I think Tyreek Hill publicly

1013
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: has tried to take accountability. I do like seeing to

1014
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: a tongue of ila kind of in that like salty

1015
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: leadership position. But it's just been strange vibes, strange vibes

1016
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: all around.

1017
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know how I spoke about Aaron Glenn

1018
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: being the adult in the room with the Jets, I

1019
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: feel like the Dolphins are the reverse Jets in that, Like,

1020
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: they had a lot of hype around them with Mike

1021
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 3: McDaniel's arrival and the explosive offense and everything else, and

1022
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: they took a significant step backward last year obviously to

1023
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: his injury. You know, the latest concussion had something to

1024
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: do with it, but Tyreek had you know, basically his

1025
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: worst year in like five years, since an injury riddled

1026
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: season in Kansas City. Now he's talking like this, it

1027
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: feels like the wheels are starting to get loose or

1028
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: something about them spending so much time in the spotlight

1029
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years, all the hype, the

1030
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: lack of ultimate success with this team, and the frustration

1031
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: they lack an adult in the room right now, at

1032
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 3: least energy wise outside right now and to us trying

1033
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: to be that guy. And I respect that, but I

1034
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: don't know if that's gonna work.

1035
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it makes it clear that those comments

1036
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: from Tyreek Hill and how he acted at the end

1037
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: of last season, like everyone noticed for two a tongue

1038
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: of to publicly feel comfortable enough to be like, yeah,

1039
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: he's got to kind of prove it to us. To me,

1040
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: he's probably talking for the locker room now. Tyree Hill

1041
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: is in a contract year. Essentially, he's going to be

1042
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: motivated as hell to have one last great year. He's

1043
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer someday, Like it wouldn't surprise me

1044
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: if he bounces back, we will see. I listened to

1045
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: three Yards per Carry very Good Dolphins podcast. They they

1046
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: made the comment that they thought these were the best

1047
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks of the Mike mcdarret Daniel Era, just in

1048
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: terms of how they looked on the field. So a

1049
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: little Quinn yours and Zach Wilson pop probably gonna be

1050
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. But apparently they're they're looking okay. Maybe maybe

1051
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: they understand that system. You never know he's going to

1052
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: understand that.

1053
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: You know, that speaks to you. That speaks to the

1054
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 3: fact that they've watched a lot of Skylar Thompson practice.

1055
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: Repsters yeahs and Mike White and like fair enough, though

1056
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: maybe I trust him. On the left side, Patrick Paul

1057
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: and Jonah Savanea are their offensive linemen reportedly have looked

1058
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: pretty good so far. And then we'll wrap up the

1059
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins with Minka Fitzpatrick got a new deal, but when

1060
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: it was first reported was a little misleading of like

1061
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: how much guaranteed money he got. They just pushed most

1062
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: of his salary into a bonus right now and then

1063
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: gave him a two million dollar raise. So here's a guy,

1064
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick, who basically wanted to get an immediate long

1065
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: term deal out of the Dolphins, more guaranteed money because

1066
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: he's essentially up after this year, or he's gonna want

1067
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: it redone after this year.

1068
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: And they didn't do it.

1069
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: They stood their ground and they were like, you know what,

1070
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: we will give you two million dollars out of the

1071
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: goodness of our heart, a lot of money, but we

1072
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: are not giving you the same kind of contract that

1073
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey got a year ago when we didn't have

1074
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: to give it to him, or Tyreek Hill got a

1075
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: year ago and we didn't have to give him so

1076
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: to me, actually that's progress for the Dolphins. They did

1077
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: not get bullied into a contract from Drew Rosenus and

1078
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: if he plays great this year, then give him the contract.

1079
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: And supposedly he has been awesome at camp. It wouldn't

1080
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: shock me if we get like a renaissance Minka Fitzpatrick.

1081
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Speaker 2: Year out of him this year. But he'll do it

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Speaker 2: without getting some huge rays.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like he really took much of a

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Speaker 3: step back in Pittsburgh either. I just think bit a

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00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: little bit a little bit, But like I think it's

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 3: hilarious when you look at his career arc that the

1087
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: place that he hated so much of the trade and

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00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: he ends up back with and he still can't get

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Speaker 3: the deal from them right now.

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Speaker 2: That's a fair it's a fair point. But maybe it

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00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: means that there are.

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Speaker 3: Those adults stop game. Maybe maybe not on the field,

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Speaker 3: but in the front office.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that you don't need to. All right, let's take

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Speaker 1: one more break and we will wrap up with the

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Speaker 1: AFC sund back one more time. NFL Daily needed that

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Speaker 1: second break because we just had to squeeze so much

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Speaker 1: goodness into the first of our Sunday evening shows. Once

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Speaker 1: the Once the preseason starts, we'll start doing preseason takeaways

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Speaker 1: for all the teams, but for now, we're going through

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00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: all the camp reports. We will have the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame Game coming up on Thursday, not too far away.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the AFC South. No Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: Game teams there.

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Speaker 3: No, but I will be at the Hall of Fame Game,

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Speaker 3: So keep an eye on that NFL dot Com for

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00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: all your coverage. Shameless plug. All right, AFC South. Let's

1108
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Speaker 3: go to the team with the guy that everybody talks

1109
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Speaker 3: about so much that I can't wait for him to

1110
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Speaker 3: get on the field because frankly, I'm a little bit

1111
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: tired of talking about it. It's the Jaguars. It's Travis

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Speaker 3: Hunter who has had the busiest syllabus week in the

1113
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Speaker 3: history of training camp. The guy is going from offensive

1114
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: meeting to defensive meeting to figure out if he's going

1115
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: to play defense and practice this day offense in this

1116
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: practice the next day defensively. He is building some steam.

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00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: He had three pass breakups on Sunday in what was

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Speaker 3: a defense defensive only practice for him. But his schedule

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00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: is crazy and his rep totals are pretty crazy. Through

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Speaker 3: four practices, he's been on the field in eleven on

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Speaker 3: eleven and seven on seven for eighty three snaps.

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Speaker 2: They spent the first two.

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Speaker 3: Practices exclusively on offense with thirty six snaps, and it's

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Speaker 3: played exclusively on defense over the last two forty seven snaps,

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Speaker 3: according to ESPN's Michael Deraco. So he's getting a lot

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Speaker 3: of work, he said. The biggest challenge for him, which

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00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: is what he said earlier this week, playbooks, just in

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Speaker 3: the playbook, which allows him to play fast. I'm not

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00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 3: worried about his stamina. I don't think anybody there is.

1130
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: But even Liam Cohen admitted it's kind of hard to

1131
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: figure out how to get all of this, you know, organized,

1132
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: to make sure Travis is processing all of this stuff

1133
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: and soaking it all in, so unique training camp experience

1134
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: for him. But that is definitely the leading story in Jacksonville,

1135
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: and it's overshadowing pretty much everything else.

1136
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Speaker 1: The one thing I'll add, I'm fine with that overshadow away.

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00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you'll see him with a breakup.

1138
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: Apparently there was a play earlier too that he almost

1139
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: dropped the potential pick six. But that he's breaking on

1140
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, man, when you watch him, he's

1141
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: so slender and it's like lower half compared to most

1142
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: NFL players. He do wonder but he's made it work

1143
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: at a level that no one has ever made it

1144
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: work before, so there's no reason.

1145
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm excited to see how it turns out

1146
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 3: on the field because he's a hell of a player

1147
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. I think he's a

1148
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: better corner than receiver. But that's just my opinion. Other

1149
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: notes from Jacksonville. This is like best shape of my

1150
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: life stuff. But Josh Heines Allen is aiming for Michael's

1151
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: hands record and you said quote, I think all pass

1152
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: rushers should strive for that goal. Yes, you are correct, Josh,

1153
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: you are correct, and Jordan Lewis veteran cornerback turning heads.

1154
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: He's getting daily pass breakups in practice as well. That

1155
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: would be a nice little addition to their secondary if

1156
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: he could come through.

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00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had John Shipley on the show a few times,

1158
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: who writes for Jaguars on SI. Check out his work,

1159
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: check out his podcast, and he said that that Jordan

1160
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: Lewis has probably been the most consistent guy on the

1161
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: team in terms of like making plays the entire offseason,

1162
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and he transferred it. He's their number two cornerback really,

1163
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: assuming Travis Hunter is not a cornerback.

1164
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell also is a guy.

1165
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: You know.

1166
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Speaker 1: He reminds me of some cornerbacks just pop up like

1167
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: every three years with an amazing year and it's like

1168
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: one of those positions where you need everything to work

1169
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: out right and he's really healthy and this could be

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00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: that year for him. The only other note I really

1171
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: had from the week was it seems like Tink Bigsby

1172
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: is getting most of the first team reps over Travis

1173
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: etn Not that they're not gonna move it around, but

1174
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: if you were from the outside just watching, you'd think, like, oh,

1175
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: Bigsby's there one, Etn is there two in Bachell two

1176
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: and the rookies their three. We'll see if that changes,

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: but so far that's definitely a nugget. I think fantasy

1178
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: heads are curious about.

1179
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: Fantasy heads and those who like to predict trades. Because

1180
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: Etn doesn't pop, keep an eye on him as teams

1181
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: need running backs elsewhere. Let's go to Houston next. First off,

1182
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of guys out there. There

1183
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: are a ton of guys on PUP. De Nigo Autry, Tank,

1184
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: Dell Folly, Fotocassi, Jimmy Ward, Damian Pierce, Derek Barnett, and

1185
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: Kurt Heiness are all on PUP. And then we had

1186
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: the news of Joe Mixon on NFI with a foot injury.

1187
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: That's frustrating considering he had the ankle issues last year

1188
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 3: and that limited his opportunities to play. But it also

1189
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 3: opens the door for Nick Chubb to maybe get a

1190
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: bit of redemption season if he has anything left in

1191
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: the tank. I don't believe he does, but if Mixing

1192
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: is off the field, pierces on PUP, suddenly it's Nick

1193
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: Chubb and Dario Goombawalle, which means they're gonna get a reps.

1194
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: So something to definitely keep an eye on the rest

1195
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: of the offense. Offensive line is taking time to jail.

1196
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: This is an offensive line that was bad last year,

1197
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: but the pads are not on yet, so I would

1198
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: hold off on pressing the panic button there. That's going

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Speaker 3: to be a big part for that offense going into

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Speaker 3: the season. And the last note, linebacker Azi's Al Schier

1201
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: off to a very hot start in camp pick six pass,

1202
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: breakup and attackle for loss on Saturday. He seems to

1203
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: be making a lot of plays that would be good

1204
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: for a defense that we expect to be good this year.

1205
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Outsier and Toe Toe as their

1206
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: linebackers right now. Christian Harris, weirdly, one of my son's

1207
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: favorite players in the entire league, just has struggled to

1208
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: get healthy.

1209
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: He was one of my favorites coming out of Alabama,

1210
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: so I understand.

1211
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1212
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: And the Joe Mixon news was one of the biggest

1213
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: injury news items since we last did a show that

1214
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport says he will be out the entire preseason

1215
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: and the hope, according to Aaron Wilson in Houston, is

1216
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: to get him ready for Week one, but it sounds uncertain,

1217
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: and considering it's the same ankle slash foot that bothered

1218
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: him last year and kept being a recurring issue, it's

1219
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: a big concern.

1220
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: We'll see about Nick Chubb.

1221
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hopeful, and yet I saw one practice report

1222
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: that was like agreed, that was like just didn't look

1223
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: like the old Nick Chubb, at least not yet, And

1224
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: so we'll see. It'll be interesting. He'll he'll probably play

1225
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: a lot in the preseason Nick Chubb like kind of

1226
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: playing for.

1227
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: His job.

1228
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: You know what kind of role he's gonna have. I

1229
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: don't think they'll treat him like a veteran that doesn't

1230
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: gonna have to get any preseason snap. So he's someone

1231
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: that I'll be curious to watch because that is one

1232
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: thing you can tell in a preseason game, is like

1233
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: who has juice or not?

1234
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: That's all like, and I think you'll be able to

1235
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: tell that.

1236
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the offensive line, by the way, like, yeah,

1237
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: they're trying everything, so I wouldn't make any judgments there.

1238
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: Yet they are still rotating and trying like three different

1239
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: people at every position. You don't want to do that

1240
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: too long, But it's the first week of training camp,

1241
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: that's what it's for.

1242
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: And they also have two really good edge rushers that

1243
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: they're facing every day and Hear and Will Anderson, so

1244
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: got to take that into account as well. Tennessee, we

1245
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: know the news about Trailing Burke's suffers. A fractured collar bone,

1246
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: just the latest setback in a career that has just

1247
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: fallen way short of first round expectations. And it was

1248
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: a year not that it's over, but it's a year

1249
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: in which he really needs to prove that he's worth

1250
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: considering keeping around.

1251
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: So it's a terrible probably over though, right, I guess

1252
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 2: it's early enough.

1253
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: And you can come back from a collar bone and

1254
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: get like half a season At this point, I usually

1255
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: I think it's like an eight week recovery, so like

1256
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: there's still some room, but I mean, even a shortened season,

1257
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 3: it's just really limiting your opportunities in an offense that

1258
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: needs weapons, that needs weapons. For cam Ward, who is

1259
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: throwing some picks in practice, but he's also asking the

1260
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: defense what went wrong and why they were able to

1261
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: pick him off. Three of the four interceptions that he's

1262
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: thrown have been caught by linebacker Cody Barton, who said

1263
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: Cam has taken the time to talk with him to

1264
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: try to learn. So that's it's a good demonstration of

1265
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: a young guy trying to soak up as much as

1266
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: possible as he knows the keys of the franchise are

1267
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: in his pocket. Speaking of other injuries, Lugerious Snead Uh

1268
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: dealing with a new injury. It's not the quad that

1269
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: he dealt with last year. It's it's Uh. He had

1270
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 3: a clean up with his knee and he's not playing

1271
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: right now. Lloyd Kushenberry dealing with the achilles issue. Both

1272
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 3: of them start on pup and then the last note

1273
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: another one kind of like the Jordan Hicks thing. Linebacker

1274
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: Lorenzo Carter retiring. He told the team that was a surprise,

1275
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: so they're probably gonna have to find a way to

1276
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: replace him. Not great vibes out of Titans camp so far.

1277
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: Oh dare you You're right?

1278
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: Some of the left, like Lorenzo Carter is probably gonna

1279
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: be there, you know, fourth eddresser, third edgehrdger.

1280
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: So it's disappointing for them. It happens.

1281
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 1: There was a there was a couple other retirements around

1282
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: the league of just guys who they just they just

1283
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: had enough the game. The game mean and me know

1284
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: him more and I will push back with you on

1285
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: the bad vibes, if only because you have a number

1286
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: one overall pick. And then Daniel Jeremiah our friend. And

1287
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: we'll have some news about Daniel Jeremiah and myself coming

1288
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: up soon. So like behind the scenes news. He was

1289
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: there and he said, you know this, they're gonna say this,

1290
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: but there is excitement about the rookie class in terms

1291
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: of the receivers.

1292
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: So that's jamry D k.

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Speaker 1: Erica a human or in gunner Helm that the tight

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Speaker 1: end that you know they feel good about them. So far,

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons is back to being fully healthy. He's dominating

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Speaker 1: and then ward like, man, he's had some eye popping plays.

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Speaker 1: So at least you're seeing like the really exciting plays

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00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: and you know he's getting the he's in at five

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Speaker 1: thirty am every day type of treatment according to DJ

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: and that like he has really won over the entire organization.

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Speaker 1: That means that means something to me. It seems like

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Speaker 1: he's he's a mature rookie. Let's actually listen to one

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Speaker 1: of his teammates, Chig o'conquo, the talented tight end.

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Speaker 2: Talk about Ward have kind of the star power already. Hey,

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: he's a number one draft pick man. He's shown why

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Speaker 2: why he is so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you see wherever he's walking around, every single

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: person trying to trying to call him.

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Speaker 2: So he definitely has that star power. He got that aura.

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Speaker 2: As the kids would say.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I wanted to use this in part shook because

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Speaker 1: aura is not a word you know, I would feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable using out loud.

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Speaker 2: It's not my place.

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: But I do think there is a life cycle of

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: trendy words, and the life cycle all but ends in

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: a meaningful or cool way the second that every corporation

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: is using it non stop in a tweet, and Aura

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Speaker 1: has reached that point.

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Speaker 2: So I feel bad for the kids, but it's too late.

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Speaker 2: You have to move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys gotta find something new, and they'll find

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Speaker 3: something new, they always do. It reminds me of the

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Speaker 3: term swag, which was cool when I was in high school,

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Speaker 3: and by the time I was out of college, it

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Speaker 3: was being used to describe free gifts swag bags, and

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Speaker 3: that's what we knew. It was over as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hung on a little bit. You just

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Speaker 1: got to like change it up a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: someone's swaggy. Now you know you got swagged.

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Speaker 3: No, I guess we can get away with that one.

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Speaker 2: Let's wrap up with the Colts, all right.

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Speaker 3: Neither Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson has separated themselves so far.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say neither one of

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Speaker 1: them have aura. See that would have Daniel Jones definitely

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: does not have aura. Anthony Richardson I would say.

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Speaker 3: Jones. Daniel Jones dresses like he's still yees.

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01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: All right, I don't go there negative negative Khakis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, Alec Pierce knows that he's going to

1341
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: have to earn his next contract this season. He doesn't

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01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: expect to get one before this season starts, so interesting

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01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: thing to keep an eye on there. He's been a

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: big play guy who has had his moments beneath the

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: deep shot, but hasn't been super consistent. And they also

1346
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: have had, you know, all these issues quarterbacks. I don't

1347
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: hold that against him. Offseason additions in the secondary big

1348
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: thing because they had to fire Gus Bradley last year

1349
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: because their defense was not good in the back end.

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: Sharvariu's ward is all over guys in camp, so channeling

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01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 3: his golden days from the time when he was at

1352
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs before that, carrying

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01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: it over to Indianapolis. Cam Binam is also becoming a

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: bit of a playmaker against both of these quarterbacks, which

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: maybe is contributing to the fact that neither have separated themselves.

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: And again, like I said before, they haven't put the

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: pads on yet, but the offensive line has been sloppy

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: when it comes to false starts, multiple fall starts being

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 3: committed in practice, to the point that Shanesdyken reportedly had

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: to light up the unit, stop practice and get in

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: their face because again, pads are not you shouldn't be

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: committing false starts. It's one of the simplest things. No

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: the count, No, the snap count, take a lap if

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: you don't know it. So they got things to clean up.

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 3: But Tyler Warren, a tight end that they invested heavily

1366
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 3: in in this draft this year, has made some nice grabs.

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01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 3: He's a guy with very strong hands who can catch,

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, passes away from his body. Maybe not in

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01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 3: the same mold as Mason Taylor, but a guy that

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Speaker 3: a lot of people obviously watched coming out of Penn State,

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: where he drove their offense all the way to the

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Speaker 3: College Football Playoff. He's making some plays there.

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01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a little underrated.

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Speaker 1: You know, when the Vikings signed the Colt's interior line,

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: everyone said, well, what a great move that was Ryan

1376
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: Kelly will Fries goes from Indianapolis to Minnesota. That that

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: could be an issue in terms of how the Colts

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: replace that. We will see. Reportedly, Richardson has been throwing

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson too, Tyler Warren quite a bit. They've had

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: a nice connection, whereas Daniel Jones is not. So that's

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01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: a good move by Richardson. But I don't know what

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen's doing there. He's yelling at the team. He's

1383
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: also getting intercepted. Did you see that one? Oh god, no,

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01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why or how, but on some sort

1385
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: of drill, stich In actually stepped in as the quarterback,

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: and I think it was Ward someone intercepted him.

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Speaker 4: It was not.

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: It was not a good rep by Stichen. But that

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: seems like it's kind of typical.

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Speaker 1: I know it's only one day and supposedly Richardson has

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01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: had three pretty rough days and one good one, and

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01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has been consistently not great. But on eleven

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: on eleven's James Boyd to the Athletic We're keeping track

1394
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: on Saturday, the two of them combined to go nine

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: for twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that's about what I expected from this competition.

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Speaker 1: Now I did not nine for twenty eight is insane

1398
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: in July these drills and I they could be working

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: on other things. But this is actually where the stats

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01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: kind of do help you a little bit, because if

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01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: it's that bad, like offense just isn't getting done, isn't

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: getting played. It reminds me so much of the craziest

1403
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: camp practice I've ever been to. I was doing a

1404
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: story for about Frank or in twenty seventeen, and Andrew

1405
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: Luck was supposedly coming back from injury but didn't and

1406
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: he was still hurt at that point, and it was

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Scott Tolzine, PJ. Walker and someone who wasn't great who

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting about, And they couldn't complete a practice, they

1409
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: couldn't complete a pass the whole practice like they just

1410
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. That was the year eventually they just

1411
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: got Jakobe Brissett in there and then and then you

1412
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: like he was the adult in the room. But like

1413
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: it was so dispiriting to be there for all the

1414
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: offensive players because you like, you couldn't do anything. Nine

1415
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: for twenty eight is crazy. Ady Mitchell supposedly has had

1416
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: a ton of drops, which is not what you want

1417
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: to hear. I don't know where he even plays this year.

1418
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: He's their fourth guy because Pierce, to me, is underrated.

1419
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: He's a good, good player, but you want to see

1420
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: a d Mitchell improve.

1421
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: But bad vibes. Some of the worst vibes in the NFL,

1422
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: I feel like are with the Indianapolis Colts right now.

1423
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: On the offensive side. I have from their defense on

1424
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: the offensive side.

1425
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: We don't want to end this on bad vibes. We

1426
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: got we got your power back, Shook. It's all it's

1427
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: all looking better.

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: Look and I got blue lights for those of you

1429
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: watch you on YouTube again, like and subscribe on YouTube.

1430
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: I got blue lights back here. The aura is really

1431
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: cooking over.

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh you brought it all around. Thank you, Shuck, appreciate you,

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: and we will be back.

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: As I mentioned early in the show on Monday, it's

1435
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: going to go up overnight Monday. We will be at

1436
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: RAMS training camp. We will get you all the news

1437
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: from around.

1438
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: The league, but we will also talk to some players,

1439
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: so we hump this guy there with the Rams. So

1440
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.

1441
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: All the NFC notes will be coming on Tuesday's show,

1442
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: and yeah when the pads are coming on on Monday,

1443
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: like that is the ultimate.

1444
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: Football is back.