1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: If you would like to have us answer your questions. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: If you have a terrible job, a terrible boyfriend, or 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: a terrible throuffle, guess what you've got? Decisions? 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: You you got this? 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Yes you do? No treat go out and come back 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: in which I give up? 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: I up? 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: Don't just make us a jingle? Do we need to 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: do it on fiber? Do we go on fiber and 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, I did so good at 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: GPT since that's what everybody else does? 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Wait, you you paying a twenty dollars of them up 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: for the chet GPT? No you can, I just typed 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: in the website. Now you got the basic girl, it 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do what you need to do. You gotta pay, 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: you gotta pay. Wait, can you create. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: A gingle? It's not just gonna jingle like it might? 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Give you words for a podcast about questions. 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: About sucking, dirt, sex. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: And dating called you Got Decisions? Wait you gotta put 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the title? Okay, oh shit, I didn't, But these are good? 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Got a crush? Got a question? Situationship confusion, late night 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: texts and mixed signals, butterflies and bad decisions? 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Oh not they do tonight Hold on way. 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Can you create a jingle about sex? 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Bro? This is so bad. You gotta know, bro, you 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: gotta know how to prompt it though too well. I 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: don't use this. 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Look okay, three day rule, Friends with benefits, feelings, catching, 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: who's still matching? 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: What? 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Swipe right? Stay the night? Is it love or is 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: it the vibe? Hot take heartbreak? Are we dating or 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: are we hanging? 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: You got decisions? Yeah, I don't like I don't like that. 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: I use mine cause you know me and me and 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: help go. 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: Way back fifteen second radio style. You really gotta train 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: these niggas. 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: I know. That's what I'm saying. Make y'all we doing. 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: And real life questions, no shame, just real confessions. 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: I like that. 44 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: I like that too, but I don't like that. We 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: might get with it, Hi, y'all with you am dizzel. 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: What's the way? This ain't for that? If y'all want 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: to update for me, take you all asses over to 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: the patrion patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions. That's where 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna get the tea hunt. That's where we keep 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: it up to date. You got a friend update or something? 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Because I do you remember my friend whose man got ED. Okay, 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: so if anybody's been dealing with teating somebody with ED. 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I talked I would never On a recent episode that 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: we had with Sarah, Doctor Bondon, Ana Hannah basically not 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: to know shorter, not to know shorter. 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: So when Sarah was on Doctor Sarah was on, Mandy 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: posed the question about ED, and basically what I was 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: saying was, okay, you married your man after six six 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: days and no sex? What about if he had THEED? 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: So Mandy brought it up because my friend is experiencing that. 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: So she hits him up and she's like, hey, I 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: think we need to have a conversation because if we 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: think to our sex life, is it really the ultimate 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: pleasure that we both can receive. 66 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Let's have a. 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Chat about how we can make it better. 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, that's good. 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: He writes back, what do you mean and I said, oh, 70 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: beat you playing. You've had a gummy dick for the 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: three months we've been dating, and we don't pretend it's hard. 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: So they get on the phone and she said he 73 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: started dancing around the shit and I was like, oh, well, 74 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm having a whiskey dick situation. You know 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: most men get that, She says, no, most don't. Most 76 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: do not. You do, but most do not. And so 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: she said, I want you to get on something. He's like, oh, 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I've tried the Amazon honeypack. She's like, no more Amazon. 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: I want you to go to a doctor. So she 80 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: said she has dates in her phone where her calendar 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: is going to say to her remind him, and then 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: she has a final one that is in twelve days. 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: That's break up with him. And it's not if it 84 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: gets hard or not. It's if he made the course correction. 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: It's if he's not mad at that. I'm not mad 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: at that either. She's like, girl, the way that he 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: spoke to me is if like she was delusional, that 88 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: she was that so he might not even be in 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the phase of admitting that he has a right child dysfunction. 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: And she said that she got really upset in an 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: argument they had or a conversation they had, because he 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, don't worry, it's me, it's you, 93 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and she was like, I know it's not me. He's like, well, 94 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: I want to make sure you know it's not you, 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: and she said, I was she's like, you know how 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: many times I had to think of what to say 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: so that you could come to the conclusion that is 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: you and literally tell me what you're going to do. 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: To fix it, Like stop trying to make me feel 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: like I called you insecure, wondering if it's me. 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: She's like, I know what this that you issue is 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: and you do too. 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: And we did a lot of little googles together, her 104 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: and I kind of just figuring out the percentage of 105 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: men that suffer with this what they should do. 106 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: And she's like, worst fucking thing I've ever. 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: Had to tell somebody. 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Worst thing ever. And I said, imagine on the flip 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: side if a man had to tell a woman about 110 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: her pH which I mean, we've actually had people right 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: in and asking that. I mean. Unfortunately, because our sexual 112 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: health isn't something that we often talk about. When something 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: is wrong or not acting right or operating the way 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: it should or smelling the way it should, or you know, 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: it does become a little touchy sensitive of a topic, 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, because we're not 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: giving the tools on how to have these conver ver 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: stations either, and it's embarrassing for some people, you know, 119 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: m M. 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: It is like, but that's. 121 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: The thing as adults like. 122 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Being able to come forth and talk about your issues 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: together is so important because if you smell it, if 124 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: you know it ain't getting up the other person. 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: You fucking know, the. 126 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Other person knows. The other person knows. Well. Good luck 127 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: to her. We might need that update in twelve days 128 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: on what's happening. 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: We're on about day seven. Listen, anyways, If you want 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: us to help you with your du laos, send your 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: email over to decisions pod at gmail dot com. 132 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: Weisey and I, as unofficial. 133 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Experts to all of this shit, will give you our 134 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: thoughts and hopefully it helps you. Okay, now this one, 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: it's interesting. The title is are we ethically non monogamous? 136 00:06:53,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: Because I'm more experienced, let's get into it. Hey, Wheezy 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and Mandy, my boyfriend and I have been dating for 138 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: roughly a year. 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: Here's the backstory. 140 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: I was cheated on in October of twenty twenty four 141 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: by the person I thought I was going to marry. 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: That man told me I was fat and unattractive. 143 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Instead of telling me he cheated, that was traumatic for me. 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Instead of telling me he cheated, I don't know we'll see. 145 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: Okay whatever. 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm like real Heabyan told me I was fat 147 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and unattractive. Maybe that's why he said he cheated on her, 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was traumatic for her. So to recover, 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I decided I was going to sleep with whoever I 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: wanted whenever during this healing. 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: Girl, I don't know if that's. 152 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: The way to heal, but okay, during this healing. Crazy 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, during this healing. I met my now boyfriend. 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: When I met him, like, I'm fat and unattractive. Fault nigga. 155 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: When I met him, he was getting a divorce from 156 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: his high school sweetheart and mother of his child. When 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: he met me, I was the third person he ever 158 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: slept with. He is in his mid thirties and I 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: am in my late twenties. When we first started talking 160 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and casually fucking, I was sleeping with a married lesbian couple. 161 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: Also, oh bitch, he. 162 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Was ugly at all You're getting all this ass? He 163 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: was down for it, but was a little upset because 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: he couldn't join. 165 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: He and I are rather kinky and love to play together. 166 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Once I ended things with the couple, we became officially monogamous. 167 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Roughly eight months passed and he decides he wants the 168 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: ability to see other people but still loves me. He 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: only wants them sexually or wanted me to have threesomes 170 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: with him, but he just didn't make me feel safe 171 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: in doing that, like he would choose me over the 172 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: other person no matter what is what he said. But 173 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: I heard that wrong for a second. 174 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we broke. 175 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: Up approximately three months where we were still seeing each 176 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: other sexually and also seeing other people. Here's where I 177 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: became a unicorn for two other couples during this time. 178 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: As my boyfriend at the time my ex. 179 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: We're still maintaining a good friendship and leading with open 180 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: and honest conversations. We decided that we wanted to be together, 181 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: but this time ethically non monogamous. 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: For me, I never cared. 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I can be with a bunch of people or just 184 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: one as long as I'm happy and feel seen, it 185 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. For him, I knew it was 186 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: harder because he just didn't have the experience. So now 187 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried that because of my sexual experience, he wants 188 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: to try to get on the same level as me. 189 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: With that, with what I've done and who I've had, sexually. 190 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: And the amount of partners. 191 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: I know he loves me and cares for me, but 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like we are in a competition, and honestly, 193 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: I don't care for it because I know I taught 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: him everything and regardless, I'm still the better partner sexually. 195 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: I would love your thoughts on this now, ma'am, I 196 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: feel like you're fucking delusional. Here's why this is the 197 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: second time you said that. 198 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: I know because hold the mirror up. It's crazy because 199 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: there's a. 200 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Part in this where you were dealing with a lesbian 201 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: couple and he could not join yet she says he 202 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: couldn't join. He was down, but was a little upset 203 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: because he couldn't join. Then you brought up how y'all 204 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: are kiky together? 205 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Then you said there's other. 206 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: People he wants to be with you sexually and to 207 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: have threesomes with, but he doesn't make you feel safe 208 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: in doing that. There's a level of insecurity there, and 209 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's your trauma coming back from being 210 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: previously cheated on by your last partner. It's not that 211 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: you're more experienced tier with ethical non monogamy. Yes, you 212 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: have more sexual partners, but it doesn't mean that you're 213 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: more knowledgeable or experienced in maintaining an ethically non monogamous 214 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: relationship with someone else, mind you. It's also very interesting 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: for me. You said that you were the third person 216 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: that not only he covered up with, but when y'all met, 217 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: you were sleeping with a lesbian couple, and during your 218 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: three month breakup, you were the unicorn for two couples. Ma'am, 219 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: you've never technically had to engage and create boundaries and 220 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: feel safe in a relationship where you're ethically non monogamous 221 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: with one other. 222 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: Person because you're joining it as a third to a 223 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: couple that is ethically non monogamous. You're joining them as 224 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: a unicorn where also you may not have the same responsibility. 225 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: And I think it can make someone feel experienced, but 226 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: it isn't your own dynamics. You really don't know right 227 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: right because work feelings don't necessarily have to be being 228 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: a unicorn. I mean, I don't know if it was 229 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: a threatfold situation, maybe, but. 230 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: It's not given that. 231 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: The fact that it wasn't given that because also she 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: was able to start dating this guy while she was 233 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: being a third for the lesbians. Then when they broke 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: up for the three months she said she was a 235 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: lesbian for two other couples. 236 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: So it's not even giving that it's a thruple union. 237 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: It's giving your a unicorn. 238 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: Which is fine, which is to me, not the same 239 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: as drawing the boundaries of your own relationship. And so 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: when you say that he wanted to have threesomes with you, 241 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: but he didn't make you feel safe, it gives me 242 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: that you actually aren't past the trauma or healed from 243 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: being cheated on with your last partner. To me, I 244 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: think that we have a large issue here with isn't 245 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: he recently divorced? 246 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: He is? 247 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: This is not the relationship you want if he's recently 248 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: divorced and has only slept with three people. If that's 249 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the truth, Oh, this man needs this open relationship so 250 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: that he can actually be single and explore there okay, 251 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: problem with understanding open relationships right, Like, it's interesting. Sometimes 252 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: I've had disagreements with my partner about certain things we 253 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: want or want to do, and the number one thing 254 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: he says to me is like, you're not getting it. 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't care about being open, I care about us 256 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: honoring this boundary, Like you're not getting it. I don't 257 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: care about fucking bitches like this is not I'm not 258 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: an animal. I don't need to fuck bitches all the time, 259 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: like this could stay or go. I want to make 260 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: sure this is fixed first. 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: Right, And it does feel a lot different than when 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: I had would obey in the realm of sometimes I 263 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: would feel like when I was with Old Bay if 264 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: you've listening to the show that longer read No Holds 265 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: Bard that when he would say we were in an 266 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: open relationship. 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: That's really what was in his brain. 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: I could mark for other hosts, whereas currently in my 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: open relationship because both of us maybe we're just emotionally 270 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: more mature. It's like, hey, I'm in this open relationship 271 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: because you and I both get to experience pleasure and 272 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. That fact of it alone would 273 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: have led him to sit and not want to join 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: or understand and let you know that, Hey, the selfishness 275 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: of sexuality doesn't exist, and that's what you really want 276 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: to know, because imagine how many women are in open 277 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: relationships just so their nigga to fuck another bitch and 278 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: make them feel like they're just getting them all hyped 279 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: up and being like Oh yeah, I want a threesome 280 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,119 Speaker 3: with you, baby. They just want some other buzzy they experience. 281 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: That's unfair. 282 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: I think what's also unfair is because you've had more 283 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: sexual partners, you're making it seem like you're this pro 284 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: at essentially a relationship dynamic you've never had with one man, 285 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: if that makes sense like and so for me, I 286 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: think you need to sit with what would your boundaries 287 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: look like? 288 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: And what could he do to make you feel safe? 289 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Because the fact that you were dealing with these lesbian 290 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: women but didn't even want him to join. 291 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: What would your boundaries look like? How can you have 292 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: a mature and. 293 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: Expert because you're the expert, right, How could you have 294 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: that conversation with him to where you can lead him 295 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: to where you guys can have a safe, open, or 296 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: ethically non monogamous relationship. But I also found it very 297 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: interesting that this is someone that you broke up with. 298 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned that y'all broke up for three months and 299 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: within that breakup you were still fucking him. Then y'all 300 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: got back together, And what does that look like realistically? 301 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Because if you could be broken up with him quote unquo, 302 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: well but still fuck him while both of y'all are 303 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: fucking other people. Maybe realistically, this isn't a person to 304 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: be with, and maybe you're genuinely not healed. Maybe you 305 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: are in a realm where you're still trying to find 306 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: what makes you feel safe in the bedroom and how 307 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you can bring what more you want to a partner 308 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: and be able to communicate that. To me, the layer 309 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: of this too that you just said that I thought 310 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: about with like not healed yet. Someone telling you you're 311 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: fat and unattractive wish I don't believe is the lowest 312 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: they can go to try to hurt your feelings. And 313 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the way you were like healing and hoeing, Like here's 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: the thing. We had a clip that came out on 315 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: the Cammy Crawford podcast where I was like, nah, like 316 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I fucked his own boy and I felt better. And man, 317 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: He's like, na, hoen doesn't make you feel better? And 318 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, it does. No regrets, fuckinge holing 319 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: or two different things bade but revenge fucking well. To me, 320 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: this is a bit nuanced, right. 321 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: I think personal insults like that making you question your 322 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: self worth, There's got to be something that makes you 323 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: feel good in saying. 324 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: This person was your boyfriend, Like getting chose. Listen, I 325 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: don't care what woman, I'm not that person today, but 326 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: we've all been there. Being chose can feel good. Being 327 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: It's like winning. You get to win, you get to yebody. 328 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: It's a real thing, right. But the older you get 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: and the more you sit with yourself, it's kind of 330 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: just like, oh, this is actually lame, and it's actually 331 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: the reason why being single the last five years because 332 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: that just so much more confident didn't bother me. Like 333 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: the last five years of my single time, I was 334 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I let a fuck nigga go or 335 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm not in a relationship that doesn't make me happy. 336 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Like you start to realize single as a superpower more 337 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: than it is a diff you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 338 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: everybody makes me feel And I think because someone made 339 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: you feel so low, the relationship or knowing you can 340 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: have one makes you feel higher. 341 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that thought process. 342 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think that because you've had all 343 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: these sexual partners and maybe had threesomes, and because he's 344 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: less sexually experienced than you, you feel like you know 345 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: how to have an ethically non monogamous relationship and I 346 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: believe you do not agree. 347 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe you're healed. 348 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: And I think that you need to find what would 349 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: make you feel safe with this man and if he 350 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: has the capacity to do so, before even introducing ethical 351 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: non monogamy, because trying to get to learn someone and 352 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: feeling safe with them while also adding other people to 353 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: the bedroom is a recipe for disaster. I will say this, 354 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't I'm in an ethically non monogmous relationship and 355 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: been dating this way for a long time, and I 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: can tell you this. When people would try to tell 357 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: me monogamy was safer, it wasn't. Like everything is bullshit, right, yep. 358 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: The one thing that's really bullshit is open relationships. Because 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: niggas want other pussy. 360 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: You have got to make sure that this is an 361 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: exchange of pleasure comparsion. 362 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: You've never heard the word. 363 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: It's the joy of someone else receiving pleasure. And I'm 364 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: telling y'all open relationships just so someone can do them. 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not a real relationship. 366 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: It's just not. 367 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: This is so much more layered than threesomes in fun. 368 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: It is. 369 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: It is well, would love to know where you end 370 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: up in this relationship. 371 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: Or not, and I do bid you ado Idio Journey 372 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: Appealing Bitch listen, good luck. 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