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Speaker 5: They said, you've dealt with them on set and everything.

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 5: How are they? And we were going, They're fantastic, They're great.

440
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 5: And we talked about Danielle saying she's just so focused,

441
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 5: she's so into the project. She's MARTA's heck, and we

442
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: couldn't imagine anybody better. But we love Marla too. But

443
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 5: we could tell they had their they had their decision

444
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 5: made at that point. It was just one of those

445
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: little things though.

446
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that's a that's a little

447
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: aspect of it.

448
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 4: I never knew where it was like there were even

449
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: there were even conversations with you guys about just like,

450
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: before we move forward with this.

451
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: Do you have any dirt on her? Is there anything

452
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: anything anything bad about her? We should know?

453
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: And you were like, no, parents, really is what a

454
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of time?

455
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: Right?

456
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: Right?

457
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: Kids? What are the parents like on set? Because if

458
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: they're obnoxious, then that kid is going to be a problem,

459
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, yes.

460
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: Yes, well, I I have been so blessed with because,

461
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 5: as you guys now, I worked for over twenty years

462
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 5: in Nickelodeon. After I was done with you guys, and

463
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 5: so you know, kild Show, Kid Show, Kids Show, Kid

464
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: Chow a lot of parents and uh your groups of parents.

465
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 5: I would stand up against any of the shows that

466
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 5: I was on, but I was very fortunate that the

467
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 5: majority of the parents that I had were fantastic in

468
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: Nickelodeon as well. But I remember you guys coming in

469
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 5: in the early days and everybody's getting dropped off by

470
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 5: their respect of parents, usually in a minivan of some sort,

471
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: and you come in, sleepy, we take you to school.

472
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 5: He starts a very hard, complex day. And then I

473
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 5: remember cut to the final season where you guys were

474
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 5: all driving your own BMW's Mercedes things like that, and

475
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 5: Ben was running a little late, as he and Matthew

476
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 5: tended to do once in a while on season seven,

477
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: and so Dde was like Ben's rennie Ldia. I said, okay, Dad,

478
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 5: will go out and wait for him this time. So

479
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: I went outside and Ben comes rolling in at whatever

480
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 5: he was driving at the time. Park said, next to

481
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 5: all you guys. He gets out and he looks at

482
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 5: all cars, and he looks at me, goes, we've changed

483
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: a lot over the years, haven't we absolutely outside, absolutely

484
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 5: get inside?

485
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it was yeah, we we we We can't say.

486
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: Ben and Matt towards the end had a more pliable

487
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: relationship with the schedule than some other people there.

488
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: And that's not to say that they were, you know,

489
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: would show up hours late, but you know, fifteen twenty

490
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 3: minutes here or there was not unheard of.

491
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: But that's funny because also I was. I was going

492
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: to college back then too, so like at that point

493
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: I was like coming from class and I would show

494
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: up late. I remember. So I'm curious, like in a

495
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: weird way. It probably got harder to wrangle us as

496
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: we got older, yeah.

497
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 5: But understandably so. And it was stuff that I could predict.

498
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 5: And you guys came to me, you said, I've got this,

499
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: this this so I could shape the day, you know,

500
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: or have d d you know, shape the day to

501
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: be a little more accommodating to what was going on

502
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: and still meet our needs. And you guys always upheld

503
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 5: your ends of the bargain, even Matthew and Ben. And

504
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: it was a little easier than when you're young. When

505
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 5: you guys are so young, you don't even know what

506
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 5: you're doing. Half the time. You're just going on impulse,

507
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 5: You're going on hormones, You're going on a lot of things. Yeah,

508
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: so you guys are a little more like you know,

509
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: cats trying to herd cats. But you guys, you guys

510
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 5: are always trusting. You guys were always well, they're not

511
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: going to ask us to do this, and that's something

512
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 5: that really needs to be done. And we would try

513
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 5: not to ask extra things of you guys because we

514
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: wanted you to have free time, have the time where

515
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 5: you could just be kids and screw around together and

516
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: laugh and whatever. And that was hopefully going to make

517
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 5: a better working environment and a better experience for you guys.

518
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 3: Well did I mean, I can tell you that the

519
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: working environment aspect of it. You know, I'll speak for myself.

520
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: If there was anything on the set that I had

521
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: a problem with, and that was rare. You were always

522
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: my go to guy like you, you made it you

523
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: made it that place where it was like we knew

524
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: that we could go.

525
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: We've we've said the same thing with like Jeff McCracken.

526
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: There are certain people on the set where it was like,

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: if we had any problem, we knew it was a

528
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: completely and totally safe space. And for me, especially because

529
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: you and I spent a lot of time together and

530
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 3: played golf, it was like you were if anything.

531
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Happened, you were always the first person that I would

532
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: go to.

533
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: And yes, yeah, I just want to thank you for

534
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: that because you always made it a very very safe,

535
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: open kind of environment to where there wasn't anything we

536
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: could go and we couldn't say to you.

537
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: Do you have a very specific story about Steve, don't you?

538
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Which one about overhearing overhearing some crew? Yeah? I do.

539
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: I didn't know if we want to get into that.

540
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's a great It's well, it

541
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: just shows you. It just shows you how the kind

542
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: of the difference.

543
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: It was first season, right or no, no, no, it

544
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: was it was right around when the Subway episode was Okay,

545
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: it might not have been that week, but it was.

546
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: If it wasn't, it was the week after because the

547
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: same person I remember having a weird conversation with that week.

548
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: So it was either a week or week after that.

549
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: There was a crew member and I.

550
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: Walked out and Danielle and Ben were I wouldn't say

551
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: talking to this person. I'd say this person was talking

552
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: to them and he was having a very very in

553
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: depth conversation about how to receive oral pleasure outside of

554
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: a nightclub. Oh my gosh, to Danielle and Ben, who

555
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: I think Danielle's fourteen at the time. And I went

556
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: right to you, like right to you, and I was like, Steve,

557
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: this is not good.

558
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: This guy's bad news.

559
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: You're like which one? And I just pointed him out.

560
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: Never saw the guy again. It was just that fast

561
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: and that like, Okay, I don't know if you remember

562
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: this or not.

563
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 5: I had forgotten, but now that you're mentioning it, I

564
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 5: sure do remember it now.

565
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I have no memory of it at all.

566
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 7: Yes, it was.

567
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: It was one of those things where it was just

568
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: like oh my, oh my god, you know, and I

569
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: think I went up to you and again, being the

570
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: son of two lawyers, I was like, this dude's liability.

571
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: You know, this is not a good thing, and you

572
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: were I just remember you're just very calm, very like.

573
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: But that's how it always was.

574
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: You were never going to explode, you were never going

575
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: to It was just like, o hey, let's talk about it,

576
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: let's figure out what's that.

577
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: It was great. So yeah, I don't think people, I

578
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: mean probably people outside of the industry have no clue

579
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: how difficult the AD position is and how essential it is.

580
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, it's it's The eighties are the

581
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: unsung heroes of the entire film industry and television industry,

582
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: because you know, it's it's a position where you are,

583
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, you have the director who is making creative decisions,

584
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: figuring out shots, and but somebody has to actually run

585
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: the stage and actually has to make sure the trains

586
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: run on time, the actors show up. There's so many

587
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: moving parts and and so often the AD is good

588
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: at that aspect of the job. But then is just

589
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: an awful person to deal right, not that they're stressed

590
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: out and they're so emotional and they're you know, they're

591
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: just they're just screaming and yelling and it creates a chaotic,

592
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: very stressful environment. And so the magic you know, somebody

593
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: like you, Steve who can be a great manager, get

594
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: everybody in line, earn everybody's respect, and still be kind

595
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: and still be positive and still make people laugh and

596
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: like keep everybody on a like that is I mean,

597
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just took it for granted because I

598
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: was a kid. I didn't know the second I moved

599
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: into other sets and I saw, you know, oh, man,

600
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: the first ad makes or breaks the show, and like

601
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: you made the show man. It was always just we

602
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: knew we were We knew we were safe, we knew

603
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: we were taken care of everything, went to schedule everybody,

604
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: and you were also a friend. You were fun to

605
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: be around you. So you managed to like maintain authority

606
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: without being awful, which is really hard.

607
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: And you look like you said it's exactly like you

608
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: said where it was like when Tony and I played

609
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: the pranks or stuff like that. If the worst we

610
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: would get is like disappointed dad, And that's what you want,

611
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: you know, somebody screaming at you. You just don't hear anymore.

612
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: But the hey, guys, you know, I'm glad you're safe.

613
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: But that was the oh, like we disappointed in the world.

614
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: To let Steve down, that was like the worst thing

615
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: ever so, yeah, certainly appreciate that.

616
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: That was great. Yeah, well, it's the it's the greatest

617
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 5: gift and the curse of working in kids television. I'm

618
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 5: sure many of your guests have already said this, but

619
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 5: it's watching you guys do these amazing things at such

620
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: a young age. But then you grow up and it's

621
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 5: so fun to watch you grow up. But then it

622
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 5: forces the show to end because you're now not kids anymore,

623
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: and you've gone off and you're like, oh, and so

624
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 5: I've gone through, you know, seventeen eighteen versions of these

625
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: kids going through and it kills me, but especially you guys,

626
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: because you guys were the first. You are arguably the best.

627
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: I used to get in trouble by Josh Peck all

628
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: the time because I tell one meets World stories on

629
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: the sense of track and Josh, because we'd be doing

630
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: something and you go, oh, this reminds me, and sometimes

631
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: these guys are doing this, and then it got to

632
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: be a running joke and we get to something and

633
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: Josh ability have a funny boy meets world story for

634
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: Steve's I ought.

635
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: Now we've got podcast beef with Josh.

636
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well what you mentioned before that we would

637
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: that I tried to play teach you to play Magic,

638
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: which led Ryder and I this random memory.

639
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember we had a.

640
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: Card printed up for you that was on your podium,

641
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: the kel Jorian Frost Beast.

642
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: I think we actually called you the Kills.

643
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: For a little too long. I think, yes, Oh my god, man,

644
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 5: I remember you guys writing on my script too, next

645
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: to all my cues that I'd have, and you'd write

646
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: que the something something monkeys or que the whatever, and

647
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 5: like okay, writer and will have been here. And then

648
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: Matthew started in later because he saw you guys. He

649
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: was like, okay, what's going on?

650
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: He did the same thing we did just twenty minutes later.

651
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 7: I love me, Maddie.

652
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: When did you get the bug to direct?

653
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Like?

654
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: At what? In what you know?

655
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: You said like season three ish was around the time

656
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: that you became our first ad.

657
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: At what point then did you.

658
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: Start thinking, ooh, director, I want to I want to

659
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: get to that. And then how did you end up

660
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: getting the opportunity to direct her for episode?

661
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly where it came. It was just

662
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: a slow growth process because I was just having so

663
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 5: much fun doing what I was doing and as you

664
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: guys said it was. It was a busy enough job,

665
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 5: so I was just kind of focused on that or

666
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 5: going home to my family after. Those are kind of

667
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: my big draws of attention. But then somewhere, as I

668
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 5: guess maybe season five, just started to think about what

669
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 5: if I was doing the how would I approach it.

670
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: It was just more like self quizzing, self testing, how

671
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 5: would you handle this situation? And so for because I

672
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: have these wonderful people to observe, and mostly David Trainer

673
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 5: and Jeffy Cracken, but we get you know, David Kendall

674
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: once in a while, and you know, it's a really

675
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 5: good people. John Tracy did early on did a show

676
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: or two, and I did some pilots with John as well.

677
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 5: So it was a wonderful array of approaches and personalities

678
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 5: to draw from. And then on other shows I'd seen

679
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: other guys, but this was a nice, up close personal

680
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: I knew all the people involved. So then an episode

681
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: became available in season seven, and so I talked to

682
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: Karen and they said, hey, you know, I know, but

683
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: if nobody else comes up, would Michael and you even consider?

684
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: And she said, well, I already have and I've already

685
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: brought your name up, and as I really it was

686
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: just yeah, just in passing. But now that I know

687
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 5: that you want to let me talk about specifics with

688
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: him about this show. And so it just kind of

689
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 5: came around that way and the next thing I knew,

690
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: things started moving very quickly.

691
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: Wow, that was a big episode, That's what I was

692
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: gonna say. How did you say? I mean, when you

693
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: got the script for what is arguably one of our most.

694
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: Bizarre in depth artistic I mean, it was there was

695
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: nothing normal about that episode at all.

696
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Were you freaked out when you read the same episode

697
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it?

698
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: And it was a first time writer too, it was

699
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 5: Erica Montafo was part of the Disney Fellows program, so

700
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: it was her first script.

701
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: Me.

702
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 5: I seem to do that a lot. Karen McCain first

703
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: time producing me that you know, I find these situations.

704
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: But it was all possible because of you guys. Of

705
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: even though Michael wasn't really there that much that week.

706
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: I remember Bob Tischler was kind of the one who

707
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 5: was present at that time. But because of Karen, because

708
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: of Russell, because of the crew, you know, and my

709
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: team and all stepping up. They carried me along and

710
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 5: it was a long night because I was piecing together

711
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 5: and it was involved. But I was so thrilled that

712
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: everybody got to do their own thing and it was

713
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: really Danielle's story and that was a lot of fun.

714
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 5: And then you headed up the b story, the detective aspect,

715
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: but everybody got to do their own thing. And I

716
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 5: remember talking about with Ben about, you know, just be

717
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: of the bog Guart thing. Don't try to do a

718
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: bog Guart imitation, and he's like, oh, thank god. You know,

719
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: she was stressing about it all weekends, like no, no, no, no,

720
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: I don't think we should go there, and just everybody.

721
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: I remember Trina just loving her her wardrobe that she had.

722
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 5: And one of my favorite shots still with the exception

723
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: of daniel being sucked into the vortex, is Writer. When

724
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: we introduced Writer and him pouring the shot that just

725
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 5: kept going and going and going, and that Writer just

726
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: the first time, I said, yes, keep that, that is

727
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 5: so great.

728
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you do it, and then you do

729
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: the doesn't he do the the two finger gun salute too?

730
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

731
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: It was great ya Isaac, Isaac, so fun. Then I

732
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: just remember I had never seen Calsablanca, like any of

733
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: the references. I just remember being like, what are we doing? Okay,

734
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: just I'll just tell me where to go, what to do.

735
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: But I remember it being an incredibly smooth week. Like

736
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I remember because at that point we were we were

737
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of new directors. It was sort of

738
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of actors turned directors or a lot

739
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: of favors like friends of Michael would suddenly show up

740
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: and be directing, and they didn't all go well, and

741
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I remember being very frustrated and starting to feel like

742
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: we were sort of a petri dish for uh other,

743
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, for people to try directing. And when you

744
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: got your shot and it was a complicated episode, we

745
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: were all so happy and it went so well, and

746
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, now somebody who actually knows what

747
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: they're doing is stepping into this role, and like who

748
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: deserves it? It was such a great feeling. Yeah.

749
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're basically saying, you guys are much more

750
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 5: delusional than I ever thought.

751
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 7: Let's put it this way.

752
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: You had you had mastered then then you had mastered

753
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: the art of not letting us see the craziness you

754
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: were going through.

755
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: That might have been it because it was.

756
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 7: It was it.

757
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: I mean everything about that week with the huge sets,

758
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: we had tons of extras.

759
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: They were. One of the thing I remember about the

760
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Cosablanca set, especially the actual restaurant set, was how deep

761
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: it was.

762
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: I mean we had a lot of very kind of

763
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: shallow sets of the boys bedroom stuff like that, there'd

764
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: be some depth to them, but this was one that

765
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: you want to It went all the.

766
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Way back, which just changes everything.

767
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: And so we're looking at all these were shooting in

768
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: hallways that hadn't been there. We're doing special effects. I mean,

769
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: the whole thing is in black and white. It was

770
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: just one strange thing. After I was like, yeah, I

771
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: give it to Steve Great.

772
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, Michael was even worried about Michael was worried

773
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: about that, I found out later and he said, are

774
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: we going to be okay? And Karen like, it's Steve Yeah,

775
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: and then she would come back down here, We're going

776
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: to be okay. It was a departure for everybody. I

777
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: think that's why everybody was maybe a little more rejuvenated.

778
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 5: It was something out of the norm. Of course, we

779
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 5: got to do something. I remember Walter Glover or DP

780
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: at the time. You know, was thrilled that it was

781
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: in black and white because then you got to try

782
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: all this different kind of lighting that you wouldn't on

783
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: a normal episode of White means World. So everybody came

784
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: to play, and Danielle looked like you were built for

785
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 5: that time period. The wardrobe, the hair, it's fantastic. Everybody

786
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: was great. Maddie at the piano, Betsy's singing Bill with

787
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: his fez, and.

788
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: Jack, Rusty always doing he had the mustache the whole time.

789
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: Rusty's just doing this the whole time. It was so

790
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: that episode sticks.

791
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get there because that episode sticks

792
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: out to me for so many different reasons, including that

793
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: Danielle and I actually got to work together, which is nice.

794
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: So she's there, we go, now she's back. But yeah,

795
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: it was like that whole week was just a ton

796
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: of fun. And you're right, I think after a while,

797
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: you've done the same show week after week after week.

798
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: The story's changed, but you're essentially doing the same show

799
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: and playing the same characters. So to then just to

800
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: take it out of that and do something so outland

801
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: is so crazy. Uh it does it kind of It

802
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 3: gives you that that morale, pep right when you need it.

803
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: So it was that was a fun week.

804
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 7: That was a really funny guy.

805
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Steve's having a baby.

806
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: Steve's having a baby to you, there's so many things.

807
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: One do you remember us saying that? Was it annoying?

808
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: And how old is that baby?

809
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: Now?

810
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: That baby is about to turn twenty six in less

811
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 5: than a month.

812
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's not possible.

813
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: And he's starting to attain his pilot's license, going through

814
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 5: that step in order to be a commercial pilot. And

815
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 5: we'll talk later whether you should fly that airline or not.

816
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 5: Just kidding, wow, But yeah, but I remember being gone,

817
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, all the all week. But then Chase was born,

818
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: I think the day before the audience show, and so

819
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 5: we were all wiped out and everything, of course, but

820
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: I wanted to be because it was the one hundredth

821
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 5: episode and I wanted to be part of it, And

822
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: so I came back to just run the floor for

823
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 5: one small scene that I couldn't possibly screw up by

824
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: not knowing what was going on, and it was some short,

825
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: little three page scene down and dirty, and so I

826
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: could just be part of it. But then everybody was

827
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 5: going Steeves having a baby? What is this? I had

828
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 5: to get caught up by Michael Say and all of

829
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: you guys, what was going down?

830
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 7: Baby Eves baby?

831
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: And then that was my curse for the rest of

832
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: our run because.

833
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: We say it all the time, we still say it,

834
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: Steeves out a baby.

835
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: My gosh. So you were with us until the very end.

836
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: Were you excited when the show ended because you knew

837
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 4: now you were going to get to continue to pursue

838
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: a directing career or were you sad to see boy end?

839
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 5: I wanted to continue directing with you guys, and that

840
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: darn Sabrina had to go leave t G I f

841
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 5: because we would have come back with your news story

842
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: and Michael had already relayed to me I would have

843
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 5: gone a chance to probably do two more episodes of

844
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: the following year. So that would have been fantastic to

845
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 5: do the next two things with you guys again.

846
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: So I think the way I'm sorry, I'm going to

847
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: mean to interrupt, you were told that if Sabrina had stayed,

848
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: we were going to do an eighth season.

849
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: It was not a done deal, but ABC was leaning

850
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 5: toward to my understanding, the way it was told to

851
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: me that TJF would have stayed together if they had

852
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: two anchor shows for the four slots. Uh. And since

853
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 5: we were the original, obviously we were one. And if

854
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: Sabrina had not jumped to networks, that would have given

855
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: their second anchor, and they would have approached one more

856
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: at least one more season with the new story of

857
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: you guys, have you moved out?

858
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: So it's Melissa's fault, then let's get her back out here.

859
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: You blame mel because it's her fault. I just want

860
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: to make sure that the blame is pointed squarely at

861
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: Melissa John.

862
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: I worked with her. I worked with her one week

863
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: after Boy Meets World where she was directing, and I

864
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: kept rubbing that into her. Okay, good, I'm happy to

865
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 5: be here, but I'm only here because you screwed us

866
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: all over.

867
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad that she got some miss

868
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: for that.

869
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: Good.

870
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that.

871
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: I also want to talk to you about all that.

872
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: I mean truly considered SNL for kids. I mean it's

873
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: also another show that has aged incredibly well. I mean,

874
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 4: the entire younger generation just says it completely shaped their

875
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: sense of humor, so it must feel amazing to have

876
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: uh I have had such a hand in that and

877
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: introduced the world to Keenan and kel Amanda bynes Nick Cannon,

878
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 4: Gabriel Iglesias.

879
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: What are your memories from that show.

880
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: I didn't initially get to work with the original cast.

881
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: I was brought in when the show moved to Los

882
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 5: Angeles from Florida and had the new cast, which involved

883
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: Lisa Foyle's and Jack Desenna and some really really fun cast.

884
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 5: Then Keenan came back and did a guest spot, so

885
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: I worked with him then, and then I got to

886
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 5: do the tenth anniversary special, so Keen and Michael both

887
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: were there, and Josh came back, and you know, a

888
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: lot of the original cast members, and so that was fantastic.

889
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 5: I'd worked with Amanda on The Amanda Show just before

890
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: I did Drake and Josh and all that. But it

891
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: is definitely the Saturday Live for kids. It was fun

892
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: having the music act and sometimes we'd have two on

893
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: the same week and then we just record them both

894
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: and then split them up in editing, so it was

895
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: something different all the time. It was it kept you

896
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 5: on your toes very much. We couldn't do the whole

897
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: show live in front of the audience, being on the

898
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 5: what we've always called the kid clock. It just didn't

899
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: fit with your workday what the state of California would allow,

900
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: and so there was a lot of pre taping and

901
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But it was fun. And I got

902
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: to tell you, Keenan and kel together they bring a

903
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: special brand of intuitive humor, improv just smart and two

904
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: of the nicest guys you could ever meet. Also, that

905
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 5: was a lot of fun.

906
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I can't remember did you do the episode that I

907
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: was in?

908
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 5: No?

909
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: No, okay, okay.

910
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember who who directed the episode that I did.

911
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, And I was not too happy about it.

912
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: That's right. You were off doing something else. I think

913
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: that's right.

914
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, or just a way on a trip on

915
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: a week off or something like that. But yeah, yeah,

916
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: I was.

917
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: Like, what, So I have a question for you then,

918
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: because most of your career has obviously been working with kids,

919
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: and you've been doing it for twenty years after Boy

920
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: Meets World ended, have you One of the things we

921
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: talk about in this podcast a lot is just kind

922
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: of growing up as a child actor. What it's like

923
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: some of the challenges, some of the struggles, some of

924
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: the great parts, some of the parts that aren't so great.

925
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: Have you noticed a difference in child actors from the

926
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: time you started to now with the advent of social media,

927
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: with everything kind of going on, have you noticed the

928
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: change on the set in what it's like to be

929
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: a child actor.

930
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, And it's always hard to put

931
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: my finger on it, because I would I think the

932
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 5: natural easy answer to be, you say, is they're a

933
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: little more savvy and they know a little more coming in.

934
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: But you guys were really savvy. You guys were very prepared.

935
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 5: So I don't know if that's exactly accurate, but there

936
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 5: is something. I think they've just been exposed more to

937
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 5: the behind the scenes stuff what goes on in a show,

938
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 5: so maybe not everything catches them off guard as being

939
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: something new and foreign as it might have for you guys.

940
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: And so it makes me think, you know, way back

941
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: when the Brady Bunch happening, and what was elect for

942
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 5: those guys, when there was no other real standard and

943
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 5: things to watch at that point. The I just no

944
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: matter what generation it is of these shows, at what

945
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 5: the young actor has to go through, and this is

946
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: what the people don't realize that not only is the

947
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: acting part, and that takes up a big part of

948
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: the day. And a lot of people are savvy enough

949
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 5: that they know about set school, but they don't know

950
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: about the pr work that happens right after the post

951
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 5: production adr work that happens, you know, all the time.

952
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 5: So you guys are literally being taken here, here, there, there,

953
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: and then you get home and you're supposed to learn

954
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 5: rewrites that are coming through. And there is no time

955
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 5: in the day for kid actors to be kids under

956
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 5: most circumstances. And it's really sad. It's nice that they're getting,

957
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: you know, financial a little financially secure at a much

958
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 5: earlier age than most people do. It's nice that they

959
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: are getting this worthy experience, and there's so many pausitives

960
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 5: come out, but it's all earned, and it's earned to

961
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 5: the end degree, and people don't realize that. And so

962
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 5: when I see you guys who are normal, functioning, delightful

963
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 5: people in society, that's not always the case on that

964
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 5: perilous road that sometimes it eats people and spits people out.

965
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 5: So I think also the new kids or the newer generation,

966
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 5: they may be a little more prepared for that because

967
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: I think their families are a little more prepared. I

968
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 5: think they're managers or agents. If you have good agents

969
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: who really care about the client, they're a little more

970
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 5: depth at handling the whole situation. So I don't know

971
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 5: if that really answers your question, but no, it does.

972
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: It's interesting just to see kind of the progression of

973
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: the child actor now. Yeah, I think is certainly different

974
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: than it was back in the day.

975
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: When people find out that you worked on Boy Meets World,

976
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: what do they ask you?

977
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: Inevitably they have a favorite, one of you guys is

978
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 5: a favorite, and so what's right? Or like, what's Danielle like?

979
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: And I get asked by the ones who really know

980
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 5: the show, what was it like when daniel got her

981
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: haircut at that frequently? And I say, you just don't know.

982
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: That was what a hectic night.

983
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 5: It was traumatic for me and I just had to

984
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 5: stand there and have my arm around her shoulder. I

985
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 5: wasn't the one who was doing this, and uh so, yeah,

986
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 5: we get asked that, and we also get uh uh,

987
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: a writer, A writer will as cool as they seem

988
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: as I know they're cooler.

989
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they were playing do you know, the kil

990
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: Jeury and frostby magic, the gathering or playing magic the gathering.

991
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of them don't know the

992
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 5: things that you know. Writer is a perpetual student, you know.

993
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 5: I still remember the day when Writer said, Hey, if

994
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 5: I could just go to school the rest of my life,

995
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 5: if I didn't need money to stay alive, you know,

996
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 5: that's what I would do. I would just do that,

997
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: And uh, will they don't know that the extensive amount

998
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 5: of voice over work, I fairly big roles on very

999
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 5: big projects that Will did, And they don't know that

1000
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: Danielle has now become this accomplished director herself, and so

1001
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 5: they just don't know the inner workings. And it's a

1002
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: it's always fun to relay that that news.

1003
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a week I won't even say an episode.

1004
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Is there a week on Boy Meets.

1005
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: World for good or for bad? Excluding your directing debut? Yes,

1006
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: that's that stands out for you.

1007
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: I don't know about that. To me, it's it's all

1008
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 5: this amassing of these wonderful stories and memories that you

1009
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 5: just remember from you know, like Daniel's hair cutting week.

1010
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: I remember when we all found out that Steve Hibbert

1011
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: one of our beloved writers played the part of the

1012
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: gimp fiction.

1013
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: We all freaked out.

1014
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 5: I remember we were getting ready to start a run

1015
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: through and it was it was one of those first

1016
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 5: things where you guys were all about to make an

1017
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 5: entrance from something. So you're all behind the set and

1018
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: I think Jeff McCracken was directing, and he's like, and

1019
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 5: action and nobody came out, and he goes action, nobody

1020
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: came out, and then all of a sudden you hear

1021
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: Ben going Hibbert the Gimp, and then just all you

1022
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 5: guys are laughing from behind set, and all the writers

1023
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 5: is breaking up, and the network looking back, like what

1024
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 5: he's hilarious. And then Will had another moment. I remember

1025
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: when we were doing the Wilderness Store set and Rusty,

1026
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: who's usually rock solid on his lines, just was going

1027
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 5: up on a line, just could not get it right.

1028
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 5: And Rusky puts all this pressure on himself and he starts,

1029
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 5: you know, getting mad at himself, which is just making

1030
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 5: the situation worse. And so he literally like four takes,

1031
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: you know, had not gotten this line. He's like, oh,

1032
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 5: and he's getting out of somewhere in front of the audience,

1033
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: and so we we said again, we're going to start

1034
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: one more time, and then Will had the first entrance,

1035
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 5: so I just said, you know, checking with you to

1036
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 5: make sure you know that we were going again, like Will,

1037
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: are you all right? And then Will says, yeah, but

1038
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: what's Rusty's problem, which just bust everybody uprooke the curse.

1039
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 5: Rusty was fine on the next take because it just

1040
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 5: had interjected this humor. So it's, you know, it's stories

1041
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 5: like that. I remember cutting through behind the kitchen windows

1042
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 5: once during the take David Trainer's directing and Michael had

1043
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: rerunened something, but I wasn't. This is when I was

1044
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: the second ad, so I was backstage hair and makeup something,

1045
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 5: handling something, and something big came up. I had to

1046
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 5: get to Lynn out of the set. And all week

1047
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: long we'd rehearsed it one way and we were not

1048
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: looking toward the kitchen. We were way over body the

1049
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 5: refrigerator in the door going into the living room, and

1050
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: Michael had changed something. I didn't know you guys are rolling.

1051
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 5: I cut right past the window and I hear it

1052
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: cut and I'm like, oh no, that could only be

1053
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 5: for one reason. That was me and Lynn's like looking

1054
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 5: at me and David trainor came goes. If it is

1055
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 5: anybody else but you, I don't know. I'm so sorry.

1056
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: I'm going back now.

1057
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

1058
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: You never want to be the person that ruins it.

1059
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: You never want to be the person that ruins it.

1060
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: No, No, So Steve, having worked on so many successful shows,

1061
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: what do you think makes a show super successful versus

1062
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: a show that you know does a few episodes and

1063
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: then gets canceled?

1064
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: What do you think the secret sauces?

1065
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 5: It's that perfect blend between the writing staff and the cast.

1066
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 5: How can it be anything But it's the writers who

1067
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: initially create interesting characters that are going to take us places.

1068
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 5: But then they find the right cast who can take

1069
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: those words and breathe life times one thousand percent into them.

1070
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: And then the writing staff will take the cue from

1071
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: what the actor has developed and then start feeding into

1072
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: that path that has been laid by the actors. What

1073
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: is this character like? What does this character do? What

1074
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 5: are the course you know what? And then they start

1075
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 5: writing to those strains and when you find that perfect

1076
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: sweet spot. To me, that's it. And I know other

1077
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: shows get popular because of some big headlining star. Is

1078
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 5: there in the lead position? And people are tuning in

1079
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: for that, But for most of the shows, I think

1080
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,479
Speaker 5: it's that other blend. Yeah, and you guys had it.

1081
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 4: Thirty years later, looking back at Boy Meets World, what

1082
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 4: do you think of all of it now? Do you

1083
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 4: have an overwhelming feeling like what you did? You ever

1084
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: think we'd still be talking about it this many years later.

1085
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure. I sure, I knew it was something

1086
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 5: of quality, was something of substance, and you know, once

1087
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 5: again not to keep referencing the Pretty Bunch, but you

1088
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 5: know that had this longevity that people always talked about

1089
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 5: and idolized, and it's like, well, why can't this show

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00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: be like that? It has characters that you love as

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Speaker 5: a fan, It has stories that deliver a message that

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Speaker 5: brought a lot of import to a lot of people's lives,

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Speaker 5: or might have helped solve a question that they had

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Speaker 5: about their own lives. And so those are two big

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00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: key components. So I sure hoped that it would. And

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Speaker 5: then when Girl Meets World came around, I said, well,

1097
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: that's just gonna lock this in. And now with this podcast,

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00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 5: I hear more about Boy Meets World now, possibly than

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 5: I did in the first five years. After we were done. Wow,

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Speaker 5: and so kudos to you, guys. I mean, this show,

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 5: this podcast is wow. It's taken off.

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Speaker 4: We feel very we feel very fortunate with it, and

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 4: we're so happy that you came up with the idea

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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for coming up with this.

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Speaker 2: I thank you. We I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget the day you I'll never forget the

1108
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: day you made the phone call and said, you know, guys,

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Speaker 4: I think I think the three of you should start

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Speaker 4: a podcast.

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Speaker 3: And you don't get enough credit for it, and we

1112
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: don't give credit where credit is due.

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Speaker 1: We really do like to give so we're not.

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Speaker 5: For maybe I had one too many old fashions.

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Speaker 2: And anybody but writer will give credit to anyone but writer.

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Speaker 5: I can tell that there's one of your reactions. It's

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: not quite the same as the other kid eat.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: Anytime, anytime I can come up with great ideas for you, guys,

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Speaker 5: you just let me know. I love that.

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Speaker 1: We really do.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: Steve, thank you so much for being here with us,

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00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: that it was so good to reconnect with you. I

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Speaker 4: would love to try to arrange a lunch for the

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Speaker 4: four of us to where we could actually spend some

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00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: more time just catching up with you. You have been one

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Speaker 4: of the people, and there are surprisingly and maybe not

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Speaker 4: surprisingly because you know the people we worked with.

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Speaker 2: But when you have people that you.

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: Can look back on in your life, especially when you

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00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: were a kid, that were like true pillars of somebody

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00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 4: you knew you could count on, who made you feel safe,

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: who you could rely on, who you could tell things to, Like.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of those from the show.

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00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: We actually you know, the more we bring crew on

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: and cast on and we talk to them and we

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: say we always knew we could go to you. That

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: far out weighs the number of people we go never

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: really liked that person, you know, but you are one

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00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 4: of those people, and truthfully of one of the people

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00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: at the forefront. Like if we had to put together

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: a short list of three to five, you'd be on

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: that list for each and every one of us. And

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00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: we knew how seriously you took your job. We knew

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: how seriously you took protecting us, and you made our

1147
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: day to day fun even when we were pistols and

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00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: not showing up on time or going through something in

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Speaker 4: our lives.

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: We knew that we needed to do better.

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: Because we didn't want to let you down, but you

1152
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: also never made us feel bad about ourselves, and we

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00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: owe you an enormous debt of gratitude and a big

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 4: thank you for that.

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00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 5: Oh well, thank you. That means the world to me,

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 5: coming from three people who are still very very very

1157
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 5: dear to me. And I've always said the friends, I

1158
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: don't like picking favorites of shows and everything, but you

1159
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: guys are right there.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna ask, but I'll take it.

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00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 5: I do have three casts that I am very very

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Speaker 5: partial to, and you are one of those three. For sure.

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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take top I'll take top three.

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Speaker 2: I'll take top three.

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Speaker 5: I like that three absolutely, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Steve, But we'll be we'll be in touch for

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Speaker 2: a lunch soon.

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Speaker 5: That sounds great. I'll let you know next time. I'm

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Speaker 5: in LA since I lived way up in Washington State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you live in Washington State now, I do.

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Speaker 5: I can see Portland, Oregon from my house, so I'm

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Speaker 5: south as far south as you can get. But is it.

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Speaker 3: Easier to hit the Fairway wood up there than it

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: was down here in La?

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Speaker 5: No, because it's so rainy. I played like twice a year.

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Speaker 5: It's always raining.

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Speaker 4: Well, we will be in Portland sometime next year. We

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 4: will also let you know when that happens, and maybe

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00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 4: you just hop on over to Portland and we'll get lunch.

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00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: Then that's that's an easy dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, great, thank you.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see you, to see you, oh.

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Speaker 4: Man, so much fun to reconnect. Can you believe Steve's

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: having a baby is going to be twenty six?

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Speaker 1: No, and a pilot some day you get so jealous.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to whatever airlines. This is Steve's having a baby.

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: And we know you have your choice.

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Speaker 7: Of all the like what's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be just we don't even know his name is

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Speaker 1: just having a baby. It's Steve's having a baby. That's

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Speaker 1: what we know. You have your choice of Steve's having

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Speaker 1: a Baby's guys.

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Speaker 4: Could do you think we could convince Steve's having a

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Speaker 4: baby to just be our pilot. We need to get

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: we somehow need to There's a few things we have

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Speaker 4: to figure out, like, you know, a plane and all

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But becoming billionaires first spye a plane.

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Speaker 4: Well that was really great to see him, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: what a what a guy.

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Speaker 1: It was so funny to hear his voice even more

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Speaker 1: than seeing, because it was always his voice that ran

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Speaker 1: our stage. He would be in the headphones, he would

1204
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: be announcing things, all right, everybody, and he would count.

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: We would be looking at each other exactly.

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01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 4: We would have to be looking at each other and

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Speaker 4: in the stage, and he was right, you know, right

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 4: off camera. And so the sound of his voice is

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: a cue for us to do a million different things.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, and so.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the sound of his voice just feels like I

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: have to do something. I'm running late, especially the reason

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01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 4: we have anxiety over dressing.

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Speaker 1: We're rolling. We're on a bell.

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Speaker 7: Oh, we're on a bell.

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01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, because I mean people, don't you when you're

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: rolling a set, they ring a loud bell and all

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: these red lights flash above every door, so nobody comes

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: in or out of the sound stage. Yeah, going on

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: a bell that means that I do.

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Speaker 3: I just got a little a thank you for Like,

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01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't know my lines and I missed a cue.

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm having a waking actors dream right now. It's horrible.

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: You have to stop walking because you could even hear

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: people walking backstage. So it's like if you're at the

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: craft service table and we're on a bell, you have

1227
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: to stand still with your snack in your hand. So funny.

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh Man.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 4: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 4: your emails pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: And we have merch.

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Speaker 1: Help us out. Steve's buying some.

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Speaker 4: Merch Podmeetsworldshow dot com runch why writer send us out,

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Speaker 4: writer writer.

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Speaker 7: Stop right?

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Speaker 1: What We love you all? Pod dismissed. Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1: is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel,

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Speaker 1: Wilfernell and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Karp and Amy

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01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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Speaker 1: Tara Sudbox producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle

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Speaker 1: Morton of Typhoon. You can follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Podmets World Show or send us an email at Podmetsworldshow

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.