1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian cars are getting very technical. We're knocking on 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the door of throwing that car away. It's coming because 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna You're not gonna have the time to 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: fix it. The Car Doctor Brent in Iowa nine nine 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Dodge in Trepid, Brent, this car is too old. It's 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: gotta go. The old car police are gonna come and 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: get you. But I'm thinking here, Ron, the way you 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: make it founded authority to welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: at eight five and now he running. Hey, it's time 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: to start your engines. Along. Welcome money and the car 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Doctor here at five five zero nine nine zero zero. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor seven phone number, here to take your 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: calls and answer your questions. Five five five zero nine 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. What's going on with you this week? 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: How is your car? How is your week? Let's talk 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: about it. Did it give you any trouble to turn 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: on a check engine light. Did it not do what 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: it was supposed to do? Or is it still doing 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: that same old thing and you just don't like it? 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Give me a call. That's what I do. I'm Ron 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: and ay in the car doctor. Let's kick the garage 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: doors right open and let's go over and talk to 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Steve and a touch of New Jersey. Oh nine Chevy 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: and Pala or Impala as we like to say sometimes. Um, Steve, 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: what's going on? You got the car doctor? What's cooking? Well? Ron, 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: I've listened to w ABC while I was touched with 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: you for a while. Now you're on w CTC in 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: New Brunswick at six am on Sunday morning, and that's 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: why I'm back on the air with you. Cool Bean's brother. 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? I have a two thousand and nine 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: thousand Rounds. I bought it new in November of two 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. I got a letter from Chevy saying 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: the letters that tend to make you a weary of 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: that some two thousand nine Chevy and Palace the throttle 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: throttle position centser made causse the engine to run rough 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: cause the malfunction that O K o AMP and our 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: engine power engine reduced power message to eliminate and reduced 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: the engine power. Also also got a traction service Traction 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: controls PSA okay, so I filed it away and uh. 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: In April of two thousand and seventheen had start the 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: driveway and UH it started. Eventually pulled it over to 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: my private mechanic. He pulled a P two one seven 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: six and the P two nine clean a throttle body 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and tested the electronics, so that was good to go 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: for a while. September of two thousand and seventeen, installed 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: at sixty hour and I a D West going up 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: to Mount Polkanov. Thank god it was in the right 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: winge it restarted, so I continued on the way to Syracuse, 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: droving back to New Jersey without any problems. Took it 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: into the Chevy. They pulled a P two one three 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: five not under warranty, replaced the gas pedal and all 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: the electronics that go with that. So we're okay until 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: January of two thousand eighteen and no start, and then 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: it was okay. They pulled. Somebody pulled a P two 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: one seven six on it. Eleven days later, installed and 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: restarted it's the eight k Uh pulled the P two 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: one three five, took it into Chevy. Two days later 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: they repaired it under that November two thousand fifteen warranty 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: letter per the two code. Now what did they do? 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: They put a throttle body on it. Correct. Well, I've 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: got the paperwork here. You know it doesn't. My private 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: mechanic goes into much more detail than they do. But 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: they performed a diagnostic two one five throttle party body 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: performer with warranty and process. Then they see, well they 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: must list they must list some parts, Steve right, Uh, 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: not really, Uh, let's see performed visual General Motors surfight 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: service multiplane spection. Because the deal is here, let me 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: let me break it down for you like this. Take 74 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: take a breath, brother, I think you're I think you're nervous. Um, 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: there's there's there's three parts to this basically. Okay, back, 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: let's let's go back to high school, all right, back 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: in the old days when Dirt was young and I 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: was a lot smaller. Um, you know, we we had 79 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: a gas pedal, we had a mechanical linkage rod, and 80 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: we went to that thing out under the hood called 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the carburetor, which nobody really knows what is anymore, okay, 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: And when we stepped down the gas pedal, the linkage 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: moved in the throttle plate, open the round disc, just 84 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: like you're opening the front door to your house to 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: let more air in, and the engine ran okay. Fast 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: forward to cars in the last twenty years. The majority 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: of them have drive by wire, just like the airplanes. 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: The airplanes are controlled drive by wire, which, when you 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: start to think about it, the problems you have with 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: drive by wire on a car, you'll never get an 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: airplane again. So you know, we've got a pedal inside 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: the car. Are We call it an accelerator pedal now 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: because technically it's not a gas pedal. You're using it 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: to accelerate and not let more gas in, so it's 95 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: an accelerator pedal. There are some wires that go out 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: to a throttle body which sort of looks like a 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: carburetor turned sideways, and it's got a throttle plate in it. 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: When you step on the pedal. Inside, there's two sensors 99 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: on that accelerator pedal. Um they work exactly opposite. One 100 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: goes zero to five volts, the other one goes five 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: vaults to zero as the one going from zero to 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: five goals vaults goes up, the one going from five 103 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: volts to zero goes down, and they have to correlate. 104 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: They have to sort of pass each other at the 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: right moment. Okay, and the computer is watching. This one 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: came down a half a vault, this one went up 107 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: half a vault, and so on. It's a it's a 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: relationship thing. At the throttle position, at the engine end, 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: there are two sensors. They do the exact same thing, 110 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: all right, the recall the gene and was talking about 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: in the bulletin and the extended warranty were there were 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: problems with the well, actually there was problems at both ends. 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: There was problems with the throttle body end and the sensors, 114 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: and then there was problems with the accelerator position pedal 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: sensor or the accelerator pedal sensor assembly where it's like 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: playing it's like playing tongue twister up here. Some days, 117 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: um and they wanted that replaced vendor issues. Age. Yeah, 118 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: we didn't make it right. Whatever it is, what it 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: sounds like you're telling me at this particular point, somebody's changed, 120 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: and this is what I would hope happened. Somebody's changed 121 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: both ends. They've changed the pedal position sensor and the 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: throttle body assembly. That's a different times. At different times 123 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I had to pay for I had to pay for 124 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: the accelerator pedal position sensor replacement right now there there, 125 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't believe in two thousand nine. And I'm going 126 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: to confuse you a little bit because a lot I 127 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: said there was three major components, because I haven't talked 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: about the third one yet, which I think is your problem. 129 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: But there used to be four components. There was a 130 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: pedal position sensor, there was a throttle body sensor, and 131 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: then there was attack T a C module okay, which 132 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: was throttle accelerator control assembly. You know, I don't know it, 133 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: just I gotta when I when I well, whatever, um 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: the names they give these things. And that used to 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: be a box that sat down on the left side 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: of the firewall, and this went to that and it 137 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: interpreted this, and so as technology got better, they eliminated 138 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: the TECH module. I believe they moved it into the 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: PCM and now it's just throttle body, accelerator, pedal and 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: wiring in between. When we get done guessing and I 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: say this very sincerely because a lot of times these 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: seventy six is you'll go in and you'll you'll scan 143 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: them and you'll look the best of your ability, and 144 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: everything always looks perfect, it really does. You very rarely 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: see a bad one. I would say rarely, but it's 146 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's you're fortunate when you see a bad 147 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: one that actually failed where one sensor was up at 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: a half vault and the other one was stuck at 149 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, three vaults, and they're like so far out 150 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: of correlation, it's obvious where the fault is, so you know, 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: at this point, hopefully the dealer changed the throttle body 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: assembly under warranty R recall and the other guy changed 153 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the other pedal assembly under warranty your recall. However that 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: worked if you're still having the same problem. And those 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: two repairs, now, watch what I say, were performed correctly, 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: meaning that they both used updated part numbers, and they 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: both did software updates all right, because there are generally 158 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: software updates associated with these type of repairs. Similarly, you 159 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: know a Windows update, you know what I'm talking about, right, Steve, 160 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: You had card updated software, so you know it's it's 161 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: it should be. We changed the two assemblies, we did 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: software updates. Now we still have the problem. Now we've 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: probably got a wiring harness issue, and it's probably the 164 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: connectors at the throttle body. That's generally what goes wrong 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: with these. And at one point General Motors came out 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: with service and repair kits where they were just creating 167 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: new extension ends coming into the connector and it was 168 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: a matter of, you know, just splicing it into the harness. 169 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: It's not that, you know, if all is going well here, 170 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: it's not that the harness eight inches out from the 171 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: throttle body went bed. It was the tension of the 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: clips on the connector at the throttle body assembly. All right, 173 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: So we gotta get one mechanic, one cook in the kitchen. 174 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to do a little more research, find 175 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: that service kid. If this was me, I'd be looking 176 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: for the service kit and changing the connector at the 177 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: throttle body end and see if the problem goes away. 178 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: It's either there at the pedal and I've got to 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: say I won't say never, but on a scale of 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: one to tend, two out of ten times it's the 181 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: pedal sensor wiring connector under the dash because that's not 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: exposed to environment. It's usually the one on the engine itself, 183 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: because that's one's exposed to heat, vibration, moisture. You know, 184 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: it just gets the heck beat out of because it's 185 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: right there ahead. This This is continued to continue in December, 186 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: February and recently this month. And I perceived it's a 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: rainy day problem. Okay, well then yeah, then then then 188 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Monday morning, take it to your mechanic. Bring him a bottle, 189 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: bring him a two dollar bottle of you know, an 190 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: atomizer bottle with some water in it, and say, here, 191 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: diagnosed my car, you know, And sometimes we do that. 192 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I love doing that at the shop. It tries people nuts. 193 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I take out all the scopes and the scan tools. 194 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: You're very diagnosed the car. Yeah. I either get at 195 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: the two ounce ballpeen hammer. When I know where the 196 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: problem is, I hit it. The part shuts off the 197 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: cars not I go we're diagnosed, or I'll spray it 198 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: with water and see what that does. Um, but yeah, 199 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's possible, Steve, It's very possible. We 200 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: fixed a gosh, I'm going back easily ten years. Customer 201 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: came in with a two thousand four suburban that had 202 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: a similar problem. And this was back when GM didn't 203 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: realize they had a problem, and it was the O 204 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: four's and the fives and the sixes, and they they 205 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: didn't realize the problem that the tax systems were causing, 206 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: the throttle uh, the throttle control systems were causing. He 207 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: went to the dealer. They changed every part under the sun. 208 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: Nobody played with the wiring harness. And I remember Chris 209 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: was with me at the time, and we looked at 210 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: each other and we said, it's gotta be in the 211 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: wiring harness. Is nothing else left here. We we started 212 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: manipulating the wiring harness and eventually, after three days of 213 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: starting it and playing with it and wiggling this and 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: gently massaging that, we finally got the truck to shut off. 215 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: I went down to the local Chevy dealer. They know 216 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: who I am, they know what we do. They gave 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: me access to their upstairs parts room. They didn't even 218 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: know they had the tools or the parts in stock. 219 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I went through the parts inventory. I picked out six 220 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: little pins. I brought it back. We fixed the truck, 221 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: and you know that's I'm telling you. I would I 222 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: would pay attention to the harness. They'll take it apart. 223 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: You know what, Steve, don't held him take it apart. 224 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: They'll take it apart. They'll fiddle with the pins, they'll 225 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: try and tighten things up. It's not gonna fix it. 226 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: Change the connector at the throttle body assembly. See what 227 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: that does for you? Call me back all right? All right, 228 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: bro Um, Since this car is still under warranty until 229 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: May of two thousands, then you gotta go. Then you 230 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: have to go back and talk to the dealer. You've 231 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: got to go back and talk to the dealer. Tell 232 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: him we spoke. Tell him we talked about it on 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: national radio. Here's where we think the problem is. Why 234 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: don't they think it's a throttle body connector. Why don't 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: they think it's the harness connector because they've seen this 236 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: problem before. Tell him to think back. Tell him the 237 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: think back four or five mile years ago. They were 238 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: putting connectors and harness assemblies in these cars and other 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: cars like this all day long. Tell them to start thinking. 240 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: All right, call me next week. I gotta go him 241 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: up against the clock. Stevie. I appreciate hearing from me, 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're with me all this time. It's 243 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: good to have you back. Zero. The Car Doctor's cruising. 244 00:12:53,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Don't go away, whether it's a little red Corvette or 245 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: you go. You've come to the right place to get 246 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: that car fixed. Ronald in the Car Doctor five five 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to on. Hey, 248 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Jake and Maine O 249 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: nine Nissan Rogue. Jake, welcome back. What's going on with 250 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: this vehicle? Oh? Hey, I's going so well. I don't 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: know if you're remembered by a couple of weeks ago, 252 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: we talked of some problems with action. This is the 253 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: frozen fro with the recall, Yes, exactly, so I know. 254 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: I went on that n hts A website, kept it 255 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: over and saw that there was a lot of people 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about it wasn't a recall, it was a service bulletin. Um, 257 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: Nissan claims that had been done on my vehicle. But uh, 258 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and then they weren't interested in doing it. Uh. Uh, 259 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: you can get on the words. So I've got it 260 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: to my local mechanic. Um, she said the same thing, 261 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, and all my school actions bad news. They 262 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: are expensive to fix, Bud each I can to it 263 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: and uh so, just so remember that I had brought 264 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: this originally to the Nissan dealer to have them diagnosed it. Well, 265 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: they claimed to have torn both doors apart and the 266 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: cables were stretched, is what they said. The cables are stretched, 267 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna the round a thousand dollars of labor to do 268 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, so I wear buying it and I 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: went to my mechanics. He said, well, let's check it 270 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: out before you order any part. You know, I want 271 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: to make sure we know the exact cause of problems. Yeah, 272 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: so we took the dow as a party said. It 273 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't look like there was their heads um, you know, 274 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: been previous entry into the breaking the bog door panels open, 275 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: taking away it was out onnot and he uh he 276 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: ended up. He saw right away. He goes, wow, the 277 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: cables came on, unhope from the actual wator. We went, 278 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: hooked it back on, put the doors back together, good 279 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: to go. So I don't think Nissan even so the 280 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: hundred dollar diagnosed, that's not subscribed. I doubt they we 281 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: live into the garage. They probably just assumed, oh, these 282 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: parts go all the time, and just start told me 283 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: that it was right. Well, and that's you know, it's 284 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: it's funny. I was, I was. I was washing my 285 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: truck this morning. And where am I going with this story? Right? 286 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I was washing the plow truck this morning. We had 287 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: a lot of salt and crud and stuff on the road, 288 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: and I said, I gotta get it washed. I get 289 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: it washed. I had the hood up because I always, 290 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I always wipe out inside the edges. And you know, 291 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm a little fanatical. I didn't que tip of today, 292 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: but I generally went around with the towel and I looked. 293 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I looked the way the way that when the plow 294 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: company installed the plow. Uh. You know, there's a rubber 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: boot coming through the firewall, and you know, it's all 296 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: about workmanship and pride of operation. And you know, I 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: think about that, and I think about what you're telling me. 298 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: The dealer said they did something and they didn't, or 299 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the repair shops said they did something and they didn't 300 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: um to get through from the engine compartment to the 301 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: passenger compartment. They just took a knife and they cut 302 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: the rubber boot. I mean they just cut it. It 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: was you know, a seven year old could have done 304 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: a neater job. And you know a professional would have 305 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: done that a little bit. Yeah, and you know, so, 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: so what is it? Is the repair shop more interested in? 307 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: It made me think to myself, So is the measurement 308 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: of a repair facility, whether they're the plow and stall 309 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: or the deal or the tire shop, the independent shop, 310 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: is the measurement of their worth when they're not trying 311 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: to tell you sell you something, how they treat you 312 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: or is the only when do you notice? Do you 313 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: notice that they treat you better when they're trying to 314 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: sell you something? And after that they can't be bothered 315 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: talking to you. I wonder if that's just you know, well, 316 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you went through it. I'm glad it got resolved, 317 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: you know. And and listen, don't take it to face value. 318 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: The entire industries like that. You just happen to run 319 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: into a bad dealership that just didn't want to do 320 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the job right. So there's goodness and and the NHD 321 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: if what you told me about I went, I went 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: to it, and and I'll be using that in the future. 323 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: It's wicking. It's wicked. Will you can see, like where 324 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: other people have complained exactly about this part, I added 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: my complaint to the pile there so they can maybe 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: do an investigation. And yeah, just just a good website. 327 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: So I appreciate the insight very well. Car up here, 328 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Thanks Jake, Thank you, sir. I appreciate that, and I 329 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you being there, and I'm glad it worked out 330 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: for you. And listen, that's all I want to know 331 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: is how did we fix the car? How did you 332 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: get the car fixed? That's all it's about. Man. At 333 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day, nobody ego involved here. We 334 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: just want to get cars fixed and moved the day along. 335 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: So you enjoy the rest of the weekend, Jake, and 336 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: thanks for giving us the info. You too, but um, yeah, 337 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, don't assume just because they said they did it. 338 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: Look at the first call we had this hour. They 339 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: did the throttle body, they did the pedal position sensor. 340 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: But we did the two recalls, and we don't know 341 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the car. Does anybody think outside the box? 342 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Does anybody think? Well, you know, I always say to 343 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: a mechanic, if it was your mom's car, or your 344 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: dad's car, or better yet, your wife's car, how would 345 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: you fix it? Would you fix it any better? Would 346 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: you fix it better if it was your girlfriend's car 347 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: and your wife didn't know. That's a whole another story, 348 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: So just things to think about. Anyway, I'm running Any 349 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. We're coming back right after this. 350 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: Don't go away, hey, welcome back. We're on any of 351 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the Car to ocurated by five five zero zero. Don't 352 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: forget to check us out Car Doctors Show dot com 353 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: and out on Facebook and by all means, if you're 354 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: a podcast or spreeker dot com. And by the way, 355 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: if you're an iTunes or would you be an iTunes 356 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: or let me ask the younger part of my engineering group, 357 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: would you be an iTunes or there, Michael iTunes or 358 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: is that what it's called. I'd call it that. I'm hip, 359 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm with it um if you're an iTunes or uh, 360 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: we we fixed that problem this week. There was an 361 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: ituned problem. We're software updates. See how could software close 362 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: a problem and make something fail, just like in a car. 363 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: But that's all working now, so iTunes and everything else 364 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: is working and rolling along. Let's get over and talk 365 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: to guy in Maine. Third ten f one fifty. What's 366 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: going on here? Guy? Welcome to the Car Doctor. How 367 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: can I help sir, you know, had you better move 368 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: a shop up here? All the mainers calling you for help. Yeah, 369 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Uh, we're the main many fifty. Um. 370 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: The little warning light on the dash it says break 371 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: came on. And of course you do check all your fluid, 372 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, your breaks fluid level and it was fine. Um. 373 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: And I've been keeping an eye on that for about 374 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: four days now and hasn't changed the level of one bit. 375 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: And uh. I took it out of the road because 376 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: of the country and break really hard and on some 377 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: icy area that you know, the andy lock engages. You 378 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: can hear it, you know, so that's working. I put 379 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: it on dry pavement and break really hard, you know breaks. 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: I didn't lock them up on the cement. But it 381 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: breaks fine. So I'm still driving it and I can't 382 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. Well, which engine is this? 383 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Is this? The uh the eight of the V Sex 384 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: five there's a three five that's okay, So you know 385 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: the red break warning indicator on that truck. It's still 386 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: a pretty basic animal. It comes on three reasons, either 387 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: low break fluid, the parking brakes applied, or there's a 388 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: fault in the A B S but if there was 389 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: a fault in the A B S A, it wouldn't 390 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: work like you're describing, and be the A B S 391 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: yellow warning lamp would be illuminated to So I think 392 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: it's more along the lines of the first two. I 393 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: think it's more along the lines of you know, and 394 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: just because it's got fluid in it all right, doesn't 395 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: mean you can't have a bad break level warning switch. 396 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: So you know, that's right, that's always possible to that's 397 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: generally a magnetic switch. And sometimes if the break fluid 398 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been flushed in a while, and if it's ugly 399 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: and cruddy looking. Uh, they've been known to stick and 400 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: act up and create issues. Also, one thing to be 401 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: aware of. And I understand you're taking this into the 402 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: dealer next week that I hear that, right, Um uh okay, 403 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I've been hurt so many times up here. It's hard 404 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to find somebody can trust, you know, So you know, 405 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: you know you talk about that all of the time. Yeah, Yeah, Listen, 406 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: that vehicle maybe under recall from Ford for issues with 407 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: the master cylinder making fluid leaks. And I'm not saying 408 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: that's this particular problem. And I believe you when you 409 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: say the fluid levels are good, But did you get 410 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: a recall notice for this or did you buy this used? Uh? 411 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: This came out about two years ago. Yeah, yeah, I've 412 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: had it two years. I did get a recall letter 413 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: yesterday about the downshift issue. But yeah, there's there's haven't 414 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: heard any recalls on that. You gotta you gotta, you 415 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: got a pencil handy just a second, Yeah, because I've 416 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: got I'm gonna say I was out on a bumpy 417 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: road the other day and that break little light flickered 418 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: a couple of times as I went across some holes. 419 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it is maybe it is the switch. 420 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: Maybe it is fluid level and you just can't see 421 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: proper level. Maybe it's so it's so dark and contaminated. 422 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: It's good you're getting it checked out, but I just 423 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: want you to be aware of this if you can, 424 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: and you could go out to n h T s 425 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: A dot gov and put in the vent of the 426 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: vehicle and any any pertinent recalls up to the and 427 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: it will come up. But you know, I remember that 428 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: the campaign number that they're talking about a sixteen victor 429 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: thirty four five thousand, and that talks about problems with 430 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: the master cylinder leaking into the break booster, and Ford 431 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: has actually recalled some of these. Now I'm aware of it. 432 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: For the three yeah, for the three five, you're three 433 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: five right y, yeah, So it's it's it's for your 434 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: particular vehicle. So you may find that you're you're coming 435 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: due for a master cylinder and a break booster, and 436 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: Ford's gonna, you know, repair everybody for this, all free 437 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: of charge. Um uh right or three four or five thousand, yes, 438 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: sixteen victor three four or five thousand. If you're applicable, 439 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: get out to n h T s A dot gov 440 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: typing the vent and it'll come up if it's applicable. 441 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: If not, call Forward Customer Service and ask them, hey, 442 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: you've got this particular problem. Ford's number for the recall. 443 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: If I recall correctly, A sixteen when a minute sixteen 444 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: twenty four, Try that number. See what that does for you? 445 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: All right? So, but I would be I would be 446 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: looking along those lines, alright guy, And that doesn't work, 447 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: you call me back next week. We'll take it from there. 448 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate you're welcome you to sir, take good care. 449 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Let's go to Moreton ninety Silverado More the return call. 450 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: So more, is it is your wife's name Mindy or no, Campy? 451 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: That would be too weird, right, we're talking about that 452 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: last week after you got off the year. I'd be careful. 453 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: She's and she's from Italian. Oh have the Italians from Nutley? 454 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: You gotta watch there. They're a little Yeah, they're connected, 455 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: without a doubt. In the car and come down and 456 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: talk to you. Yeah, well listen as long as she 457 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: can she make cal zones, um, if she can, if 458 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: she can cook, we'll take her. You know, it's we 459 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: like to eat in the shop. Um. But what's her 460 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: first name? No, you're more and what's and what's her 461 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: first name? I gotta I gotta know, Okay, all right, 462 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: because if it was Wendy, I'd really uh anyway, um yeah? 463 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: So um, So where are we with this ninety nine 464 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Silverado More? What's going on? Uh? It was solved two 465 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: days ago. What what ultimately happened because of the nature 466 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: of the the damage and the transmission of through the frame. 467 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, the sound was sound. How sound goes to 468 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: a car, It could be anywhere. Yeah, it carries throughout. Yeah, 469 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and I had vibrations on the floorboard inside. So but 470 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: for sure that had something to do with frame. But 471 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: I pulled the axle, unbolted the axle from the the 472 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: differential up front to what I suspected to be the 473 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: driver's side, and I'm running the you know, but I 474 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't know if it was a load bearing problem or 475 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, free spinning. Sometimes it's not doesn't show up. 476 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: So I put a little load on the wheel. I 477 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: put the tire back on, put a load on it, 478 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: and spun it on a on a roller. Got a 479 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: little grind out of it. And it turned out to 480 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: be the outer bearing on the housing the what's it 481 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: called about housing the support So it's it's it's not 482 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: the wheel bearing. It's the carrier side bearing in the 483 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: front differential or the rear differential. No, no, it's it's 484 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: in the it's in the wheel, not in the differential. Okay, 485 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: So it's the left front wheel bearing. Yeah, the outer one, 486 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: because this this is a prepackage ascend lads, and and 487 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: outer the outer one had the race. The race was 488 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: running good. It's the race is depart with the bearings. 489 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: The the outer part, the the outer part of the 490 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: bearing that had spundlers inside the inside the press spinning, 491 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: that's what was spinning. And it was hitting every once 492 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: in a while and every one in which change out 493 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: the whole you know, the whole housing for sucking a 494 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: quarter and undone back on beans. All right, well listen, 495 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: you you get into New Jersey anytime, so bring your 496 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: wife buy we'll have a conversation about Italian women from Notley. 497 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: All right. I graduated from Booting in sixty seven, so 498 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I know where you're coming from. Brother. All right, listen, 499 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: you have a good rest of the week. I gonna 500 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: go against the clock. They keep me working all afternoon. 501 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Take good care. I'm running any of the car doctor 502 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: zero zero. We'll be back right after this. Hey, if 503 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: card doctor, let's get going. Let's go over and talk 504 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: to Joe Wisconsin nine six Chevy fift hundreds. Some trans issues, Joe, 505 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? 506 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Good? So? I got a 507 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: Chevy ck. It's my Runner truck that I used for 508 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: going the hardware store last year. I started having some issues. 509 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: After driving it for a while, the transmission would start 510 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: to shift real hard um, and then they got to 511 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: the point um where after it ran for a while, 512 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: it wouldn't shift out of first year at all. So 513 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I did a little research on my own. I ended 514 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: up changing all the transmission fluid, new filter, and it 515 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: seems to be better. I haven't had that issue, but 516 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: I haven't taken any long runs, and I'm trying to 517 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: figure out if I got a bigger issue than than 518 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: what I say I do, um or just changing the 519 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: transmission filter and fluid with what it needed? How many? 520 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: How many miles out of time? I'm sorry, than original trends? Right? Yeah? Yep, yep, 521 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: um I did. I did have a trouble code for 522 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: a hard shift to kind of in between there. I 523 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: haven't gotten that to come back yet after I cleared 524 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: it and did my transmission change. So how beat was 525 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: the fluid? Um? It was? It was pretty beat? Um 526 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: it was? It was pretty black when I when I 527 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: drained it, it wasn't it wasn't fresh. Now did you 528 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: did you do? Did you do a complete fluid exchange 529 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: or just change what was in the pan? I did 530 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: a complete fluid exchange? Uh? And is the fluid still clean? 531 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Still got good colors? Yeah? Yeah, it's still got good 532 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: color to it. Um, Like I said, I've been kind 533 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: of worrisome, so I haven't taken it more than a 534 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: couple of miles from home, but I haven't um had 535 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: any of those issues. And I guess I'm just trying 536 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: to see if I need any piece of mindy to 537 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: take it a few Yeah, and I know where you're 538 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: coming from. Look, here's how you gotta figure it. Is 539 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: it a good truck to you? Yeah? You like the ruck, 540 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: good bodies and good shape. If it needed a trans 541 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: if you needed a transit, stick a trans in it, Okay, 542 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: then then you know what, Let's why don't we let 543 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: it warm up in the driveway for two hours? All right, 544 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's let it get hot. You know, if anything's 545 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna kill a trans it's heat. All right, get it 546 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: hot and start making your laps. You know, you're you're 547 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: the more you use it, the higher the temperature is 548 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna go. And um, you know that's when you're gonna 549 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: see the problem. And I'm not saying that's the be 550 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: all and end all to it. You know that that year, 551 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: that generation at this mileage a quarter million miles. Hey man, 552 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: you know the truck a transmission. You know, the question 553 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: is is it an how or is it later? Um? 554 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, it sure sounds like and has all the 555 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: indicators to me of of internal seals that are worn out. 556 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: And you know I went through this with my suburban, 557 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: my old four suburban with fifties six thousand miles on it. 558 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: My gosh, I've changed the diaper on that truck every 559 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: day of its life since two thousand four. It was 560 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: the gentlest kindless care. At fifty six thousand, the trans 561 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: started doing all these flaky things, and you know, you 562 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: kind of sat there and your at your head. Fifty 563 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: six thousand miles? How can this be? Ended up having 564 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: a bad torque converter. The torque renverter itself failed well. 565 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: At fifty six thousand miles, I gotta pull the trans out. 566 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: This was last year. The truck was, uh fourteen years old? 567 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: How old was it? It was fourteen fifteen years old. 568 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I said, gee, I'm pulling the trans. I'm not just 569 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna do a converter, because sure enough I dropped the pan. 570 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: There's a ton of metal in the pan. Everything was 571 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: getting showed up. You know, it's a complete package. I 572 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: think the way I approached trans diagnosis on an older vehicle, 573 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Joe is I get it down in my head? Is 574 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: it inside the trans or outside the trans? Okay, you 575 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: know wiring harness and what can affect the ninety six 576 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: wiring harness connectors PCM. Believe it or not, ignition switch 577 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: has a lot of bearing in ninety nine seven model 578 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: years on transmission capability to So just if you're having 579 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: any weird ignition switch dashlight problems, just keep that in 580 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: the back of your head. But if you can prove 581 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: that it's internal trans, put it trans in it. You know, 582 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, even if it's even if it's Ti under 583 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Bucks with the trans and a and a Saturday Sunday 584 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: on your back and the driveway, putting the trans in 585 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: the truck. You know what, You're not gonna buy a 586 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: truck for that. You you know, you're not gonna buy 587 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: a truck. You're gonna buy a used truck with with 588 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: with a hundred thousand miles on it for twenty grand 589 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that's all worn out that you're gonna need to do anyway, Uh, 590 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: you know it just it just doesn't pay. I had 591 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: a situation this week. Customer brought us a listen to 592 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: this story and then we're gonna go suburban LTZ top 593 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: of the line suburban, sixty three thousand miles on it. 594 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: It came in for tires and an oil change. Took 595 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: the truck for a rod. This truck rode so hard 596 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: I hit the little bump out in front of the shop. 597 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's a little tiny. I thought my feelings 598 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: were gonna fall out. It has It has magnetic ride control, 599 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: which is the same style shock absorber. They charged the 600 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: particles and the fluid. I don't know, g ms like 601 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: on a Star Trek kick. They changed the valveing in 602 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the shock by magnetic control, and you know, six d 603 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars apiece for two front shocks, six fifty ease. 604 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Then you gotta put him in, all right, Okay, Then 605 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: you've got to do an alignment. Then we had to 606 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: talk about the wine and the rear end. He I 607 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: was like, wow, took the rearer part. The opinion bearing 608 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: was bad. Sixty three thousand miles. We put five grand 609 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: in a suburban this week, and the customer looks, well, 610 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: but but and the point becomes the customer look to 611 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: me and he said, Ron, it's an eighty thousand dollar vehicle. 612 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I can't replace it. So five grand is nothing, and 613 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: it keeps the wife happy, which I understand that part. Um. 614 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, my mom is not happy. Nobody's happy. Uh So, 615 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, look at look at the total cost of 616 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do versus the cost of replacing it, 617 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: versus the cost of you know what the other choices are. 618 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: It's a dollars and cents decisions. So if you can 619 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: verify it's not in the trans, fine. If you can 620 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: verify it is in the trans, peace of mind. Put 621 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: a trans in it. Let's move on. Life's too short, 622 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: all right, brother, we can do that. Appreciate the help. 623 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: You're welcome, Joe. If you have any other questions, you 624 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: know where to find me. You're welcome. Bye, bye, five zero. 625 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: We're coming back right after this. Hey, running in the car, doctor, 626 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Let's cruise over. Let's go talk to Big Tom and 627 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: his nine Chevy Suburban. Tom gus Son, it's been a 628 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: long time. How are you, brother, I'm doing fine, My friend, 629 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: doing fine? About yourself? I'm doing good. Here we are 630 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: on radio once again. How can I help you today? Well, 631 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I have a nine Chevy Suburban two thousand miles just 632 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: broken in. I'm not sure if it's well broken in 633 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if my mechanic is taking me for 634 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: a ride though or not. All right, what do you got? 635 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: I handled in four wheel drive trouble? Uh? They replaced 636 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: the actual motor that does the selection of drive mode. 637 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: And was it setting four wheel drive codes TOM zero 638 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: seven or something along those lines. It wasn't even throwing 639 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: a code. The panel that controls the four wheel drive 640 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: just went blank. So I I thought, okay, it wasn't 641 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: throwing a service engine soon code wasn't throwing any code. 642 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Took it to them. They said, well, the motors burnout, 643 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: will replace the motor, go for it. Replace the motor. 644 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: They come back and say, well we need to replace 645 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: the controller. Okay, replace the controller. And I had the 646 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: truck back for a couple of hours and service engine 647 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: soon right comes on. I pull a code and it's 648 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: it's PI, which was a four wheel drive low circuit fault. 649 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: Take it back to them and they go, okay, well 650 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: we'll try again. Well, well, what's what's this? What's this 651 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: try stuff? Did they did? They? Did they charge you 652 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: to do all the stuff that they did beforehand? Yes, 653 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: about a thousand dollars, so they should try to get 654 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: it right, Um, you know that doesn't make any sense. Listen. 655 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: The initial problem was what the dash. The dash indicator 656 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: wasn't lit up, right, dash indicator wasn't lit up, and 657 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't select too high for high auto, none of that. 658 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: And did they scan it for codes at that point 659 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: or did they just put a motor in it. I'm 660 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: not sure what they did. They didn't even scan it. 661 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: They just threw a motorator. M Tom, I got a haul, Jo. 662 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you over to the top of the hour, 663 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: all right, stick around for the news news, and then 664 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk after the top of the hour, because, as 665 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: you can tell by the music, if I don't, Tom's 666 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: gonna yell at me, and you know how that goes. 667 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: So don't go away. I'm running any of the car 668 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's 669 00:34:48,640 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: see you. She's to super bo