1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: How's it going. This is Jason Kelce and welcome to 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: The Philly Show. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Omorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show. It's Thursday, April twenty fourth, twenty 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: twenty five. Gentlemen, I got back from New York last night, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: and oh the trip. What a trip it was. Although 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: I will say real quick, I want to tell a 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: quick story. So I take the Long Island Railroad, just 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: get swept. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Of course they lose three. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Get on Long Island Railroad to Penn Station to catch 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: my train home. I come up the stairs and this gentleman, 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't know where he was from. He goes, excuse me, 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: is this New York? And we're in Penn Station and 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: I go, yes, this is New York. And he goes, 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: this is New York. I'm like yes, and he goes, 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: new York, New York. Oh my mi, yeah, I'm like yes, 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: and then immediately grab my I immediately grab. 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: My wallet because I was like, yeah's hocky to hear? 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Is this like an end a round? But made it 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: home safely. The Phillies flew to Chicago last night. Thrilled, 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: probably to leave New. 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: York behind and not a good series. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: You know. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Let's say, Aaron Nola on Monday falls to zero to five, 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez on Tuesday leaves the game after the second 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: inning with a soreness in his left forearm, which is 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: connected to the elbow. Jordan Romano then on Wednesday's series 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: finale blows a lead and the Mets walk it off 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: to sweep the series. So a lot of other things 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: happen in this series as well, And we're going to 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: get to the We're gonna dig in a little bit 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: today on the bullpen, some of the stuff that's going on. 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: In the rotation, some of the stuff that's going on 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: with the offense. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: But you know, when you guys look back at that series, 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: does anything kind of pop off right off the top 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: of the bat with you guys? 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Interesting word, top of the bat? Where were the extra 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: base hits? I mean, this is the three hundred million 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: dollar payroll, you know, and with in the lineup, you 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: got one hundred million dollar guys, you got three hundred 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: million dollar guys. You get eighty million dollar guys, and 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: they go to New York Big Ballpark and they get 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: three extra base hits you know, put in the gaps, 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: get some extra base hits. I mean, that was astounding 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: that they could come out of there with with just 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: three extra base hits. 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 5: You know, I just yeah, what's amazing to me is, 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: you know, not everybody's going to be hot at the 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: same time, but you also don't really have situations typically 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: where everybody goes. 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: Cold at the same time and the only guy who's 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: really swinging the bat the kind of consistency of getting 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: hits is Alec Bohm. Imagine that, and I mean, I 56 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: think all of us knew that that was going to happen. 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: At some point. He's not really driving the ball, but 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: he's getting hits. The other guy's getting hits, the other 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: the number nine hole hitter, I mean, yeah, you got 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: Johann Ross is getting hits. I mean, when you're depending 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: on the eight to nine hole hitter to get hits 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: and you're not the big boys, aren't you know, doing 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: the damage, then it makes it very difficult for you 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 4: to have success. It's as simple as that. 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 6: Rojas is really every one of those games were winnable. 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 6: Every single one of those games were winnable. And you know, 67 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 6: you want to talk about the bullpen. You want to 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 6: talk about starting pitching, you want to talk about Aaron Nola. 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: They're all winnable. You got to score runs to win 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: baseball games, and they're not. And you're right, three hundred 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: million dollars you know, payroll. Uh, you know the two 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: three four hitters, two three four five hitters are making 73 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: like a hundred million dollars themselves. 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: So and and and I don't want to always equate 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: it to money. My point is, these are guys with 76 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: track record, These are guys with pedigree, These are guys 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: who've been All Stars. These are guys who have you know, 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: made those paid checks by driving the ball all over 79 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the lot and then we just haven't seen it. But 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: hats off the Rojas. He's really swung it well since 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I sent him to Triple A last week. 82 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: You must listen to the pod. You fired him up, Jimmy. 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 7: Well, I sort of had to. I mean he had 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 7: to sort of step up. He's an opportunities now a marsh. 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Down, Yeah he has. He has. 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: Weston Wilson now is activated. 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 7: Maybe he plays some center field at some point if 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 7: the Rojas wasn't swinging the bat well. But you know, again, 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 7: these are guys that are at some point are going 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 7: to start swinging the bat. 91 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: Well against Schwarberg got really cold. He was really hot early. 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: He's gotten really cold. Harper's not swinging the bat all 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: that well. I mean, there's all types of stuff that's 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: going on right now that that you know, just just 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: isn't gonna work. And I think this is a team 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: that's good at hit and good at driving, and they're 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: gonna slug. I remember Rob Thomson talking about last year 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: we will slug, and they will, but they're not doing 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: it right now. 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: He said that again yesterday. He was asked that again yesterday. 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: He says, we will slug, and there will come a 102 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: time later this season when we do not slug, and 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: there might come another time later, even later in the 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: season when we do not slug. But he does believe 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: that they are going to slug at some point, just 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: a matter of when, hopefully sooner rather than later for them. 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I would like to make the point that I didn't 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: send a Rojas to Triple A as a punitive measure. 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: It was more like a player development measure. But he 110 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: has leaned on some fastballs and I even saw him 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: hit a breaking ball up the middle for a base hit, 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: So good for him. Another thing that was said by 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Rob Thompson and others in that clubhouse in New York 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday was we're a good team. I heard that 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: several times. We're a good team. Okay, it's time to 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: start showing it. If you are a good team team 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: by definition, they are actually a mediocre team. And here's why. 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers since last June nine, 119 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven games for the Phillies since 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: last June nine, that includes four in the postseason, they 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: are one game over five hundred, one game over five 122 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: hundred the Mets. The Mets, who are a good team, 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: same period of time, thirty seven games over five hundred. 124 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 4: So great point. You make great points, Yeah, no question 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: about it. 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: What are the Phillies? The Phillies they are a definition 127 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: that's a large chunk of season. It's like seven. 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: They're super they're super talented team. And I don't think 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: that they're playing as well as as you know, as 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: they probably should, and they haven't done that for some time. 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't like to use necessarily the 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: word underachieving, but they are certainly not producing at the 133 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: level commensurate to their talent. I think that that's probably 134 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: the way that I would describe it. I know that 135 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: these guys have a tremendous amount of baseball ability, but 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: they're going to have to start playing with that sort 137 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: of baseball ability to show themselves, show the world, to 138 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: show their fan base that they are a good team. 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of upset fans, of course. I mean 140 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen it. I've heard it, lots of. 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Being said about this team. 142 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: And so where do you guys kind of fall on it? 143 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Fall on the you know, it's twenty five games in 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: the season. Because here's kind of where I fall on it. 145 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: It is only twenty five games in the season. They 146 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: are thirteen and twelve. They still have a winning record. 147 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: Not good enough, Not good enough. That's not what I'm saying. Uh, 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: you know, I I see a lot of reasons to 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: be concerned. Jim, you mentioned it. Their play since early 150 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: June of last season. You look at that number, you go, 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: oh boy, that's you know, maybe there's something there. Uh, 152 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: you know, the bullpen issues, the offensive issues. But I'm 153 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: not ready to make any decorative sentences. I've heard a 154 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: lot of that so far. You know, you know it's over. 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: They're they're cooked, you know there. They can't come back 156 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: and turn this thing around. It's way way premature for that. 157 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: Where do you guys think, Where do you guys stand 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: on some of I guess some of the heart takes, Yeah, 159 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: the heart the hot takes going on right now and 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: in Philly's land, because there's a lot of them. 161 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Well, they're they're, they're they're one good week away from 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: turning those hot takes and turning those frowns upside down. 163 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I think a smart fan, though, can 164 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: can look through all that and have concerned about the bullpen. 165 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I think a smart fan can look at the rotation 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: and have concerns about that is the strength of the team. 167 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,119 Speaker 1: And Aaron Nola has lost a tick on his fastball. 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: I think it's totally justified to ask if he can 169 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: get that back otherwise he's going to have to pitch 170 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot more like Jamie Moore, and I think it's 171 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: completely justifiable to be concerned about the bullpen and say, 172 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, they need to maybe expedite on that July 173 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: trade deadline and make a move sooner rather than later, 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of contenders out there. I'll be 175 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: looking for the same thing. It's way too early to 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: count this team out. It's too early to say that 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Romano can't get things going and be a good 178 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: pickup and a good acquisition. But I'll tell you right now, Rubin, 179 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I think this was before you started covering the Phillies Todd. 180 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: But when I look get Jordan Romano, I see Andy Ashby. 181 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Remember Andy Ashby had that he came back here, he 182 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: didn't pitch well, and he had that deer in the headlights, 183 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: looked like, what the hell is going on here? I 184 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: see that with Jordan Romano a little bit, and it 185 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: kind of concerns me. 186 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously Jordan Romano's have been struggling. He 187 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: actually it's kind of crazy. He made a decent pitch 188 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: on Pete Alonso. He had pretty good stuff. He brushed 189 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: the fastball past Bianto's at some point he he you know, 190 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: so he's got some more life on the stuff. The 191 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: breaking stuff's a little sharper, and I think that he 192 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: cleaned up whatever those tip pitches he was he had 193 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: going on. But he makes a pretty darn good pitch 194 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: that's an O two pitch that needs to be bounced 195 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: and uh and he didn't bounce it. He didn't get 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: it down enough. And you got to give Pete a 197 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: Lonzo some credit. Man a little bit like what he 198 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 4: did with Devin Williams last year in the playoffs. I mean, 199 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: he came up with a really big bass at the 200 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: oppoe the way and he's got to execute better. That 201 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: was just one instance. But I think as far as 202 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: the team is concerned, it's a better team than we've 203 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: seen and especially as of late. But I get concerned 204 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: about their ability to get a big hit with men 205 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: in scoring position. I'm not sure what is happening with 206 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: their mojo. I'm not sure why it's happening, but it 207 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: has been a long period of time where they have 208 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: not come up with a three run double or a 209 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 4: two run double or a four to three run home 210 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: run other than stop hitting that big one against their closer. 211 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 4: I don't see that happening consistently and guys coming through 212 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: and having the abassador necessary to drive runs in. The 213 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: Mets did it the Phillies did not. The two out doubles, 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: the two out base hits, the big when they have 215 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: chances to do some damage situationally that is not getting 216 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: done that has There's gotta be some kind of paradigm 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: shift in that area of the game, because if they 218 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: don't get the big two run doubles or the two 219 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: run home runs or the three run home runs, they're 220 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: not going to score runs because they're not manufacturing them 221 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: often enough. 222 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: Let's get more into the offense and the bullpen right 223 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: after these words. 224 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 8: Alana, we love our pupps dearly, and we want to 225 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 8: shout out Spot and Tango for taking care of our 226 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 8: pupps with their unkibble. 227 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: They are a game changer. 228 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 9: A game changer is right, Scott. 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So the bullpen guys, I'm going to 248 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: run over some numbers here. 249 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: Bullpen right now five point five six ERA, second to 250 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: last in baseball. 251 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: Only the Nationals are worse. They have a six nine 252 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: six ERA. 253 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: The Nationals so Phillies twenty ninth in baseball and bullpen 254 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: e Array Mets bullpen two point three five. It's like 255 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: the second best in baseball. So it kind of gives 256 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: you a sense of where they are. And it's really 257 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: you have Alvarado right now, who's been great, had two 258 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: scoreless innings yesterday. 259 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: It was a shame to wait. Strom has pitched well. 260 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: And then you have Romano, Banks, Rkering, Ruiz, Ross Fernandez. 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: All those guys except Tanner Banks have an ERA of 262 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: five six' eight or. Higher and we talked With Dave dombrowski, 263 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: yesterday a few of us in the dugout visitors dugout 264 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: At City, field AND i, said you, listen you're always 265 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: prepared for what you're going to do. Next if they 266 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: don't do, well you're not just going to keep going 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: out there bullpen after bullpen. Appearance it's something we weigh 268 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: on a daily, basis he mentioned, yesterday and it already 269 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: has started that their number twelve, prospects Set johnson has 270 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: been moved from the rotation to the bullpen In TRIPLE 271 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: a because they don't really have a lot of internal 272 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: options right, now guys that they can just pull off 273 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: the forty man roster and bring up and pitch in the. 274 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Bullpen so they're going to Give Seth johnson a. Look 275 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: they like his fastball slider, combo so they think there 276 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: could be something, there very very early on. That he 277 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: had an inch comment yesterday when he was asked about 278 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: letting Both Jeff hoffman And CARLOS. 279 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: A steves. GO i don't know if you guys saw. 280 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: That he basically said, that you, know we were very 281 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: aggressive in trying to re Sign Jeff. Hoffman he said 282 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: the contract That Jeff hoffman ended up taking with The 283 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: Blue jays three years thirty three, million was not too 284 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: far off from what The phillies originally offered early in 285 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: the off. Season so my sense was that they made 286 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: according To, dave that they made an aggressive offer To 287 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: jeff early in the off. Season it was a little, 288 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: light as usually is in the early in the, offseason 289 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: right you think you're going to get something a five 290 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: year deal or a four year deal at a higher. 291 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: Aav jeff and his agent said. No offseason. 292 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: Continued he ended up taking three years thirty three so 293 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: he you, Know dave mentioned that, yesterday WHICH i thought was. 294 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: Ending doesn't change, anything doesn't change. Anything they still the 295 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: guys that they did do have on the team right 296 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: now are not. Performing so wanted to mention those. Things 297 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: and ALSO i wanted to mention this as, well because 298 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: this keeps coming. Up Ranger Suarez he's going to make 299 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: a rehab. Start On, Sunday dave, said we're having no 300 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: conversations about Moving Ranger swars to the, Bullpen SO i 301 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: wanted to mention that because that gets asked a. 302 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: LOT i also. 303 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Asked him a couple two sundays ago In Saint Louis 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Andrew painter bullpen. Guy he, said absolutely, not under no 305 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: conditions Will Andrew painter be going to the. 306 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Bullpen people still keep talking about it though it's a. 307 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: Starter he is a, starter and he is not. Going he, 308 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: said absolutely. 309 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Not and coming Off Tommy, john you cannot ask him 310 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: to get ready in seven minutes at like like the 311 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: reliever has to get ready in six. Minutes you can't 312 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: ask you guy coming Off Tommy john at that, age 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: with that future to do. That he needs he needs 314 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: an hour to get, ready. 315 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: Right so there was a lot of talk about. THAT i, 316 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: Mean i've talked about that on other, platforms about what the. 317 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: GUY i, mean, listen this rotation's gonna need more than 318 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: five or six or eight or ten starters at some. Point, 319 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 4: Nola's Nola, wheeler all those, guys they're gonna go. Down 320 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: they're gonna need. Time it's it's. Inevitable What, look what 321 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: happened With, SANCHEZ i, mean didn't feel. 322 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Well that's a big. Concern, sanchez to me is a big. 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Concern he's got a, forearm and until we see him 324 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: looking Like, sanchez color me. 325 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: Concerned, yeah, Absolutely and so you have to keep those. 326 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: Guys you have to create the depth in the rotation 327 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: is way more important than the depth in your. BULLPEN 328 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: i will say this, though that there's nothing more demoralizing 329 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: to a team when you're standing out there knowing that 330 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: when the ball is handed off from the starter to 331 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: the reliever that the game may be. Over that is 332 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 4: a very very difficult thing to overcome as a player position. 333 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: Player i've lived. It i've seen, it like you, know 334 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: when when firepower is coming out of that out of 335 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: that bullpen and the guys are you, know lighting guys up, 336 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: there it's very demoralizing to a team and it's a 337 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: tough thing to address early in the season like. This 338 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: as you, Said, todd but you, know IF i was 339 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: in that situation as A gm right, NOW i would 340 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: be scouring. Hard AND i guarantee you right now That 341 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: Dave dombrowski. 342 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 7: Is out there looking for help because he's seeing exactly 343 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 7: what we're. 344 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: Seeing AND i, know but it's really really tough because 345 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: now you've got to give up a really damn good 346 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: prospect for someone that you are hoping will help solidify the. 347 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: Team so, yes you have to have some patience because 348 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: The kirkerings of the, world and you, know some of 349 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: the other guys that you're sort of counting on in 350 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: the back. 351 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 7: End of that, thing have to get. Better romano And 352 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 7: kirkering have to get. Better and if they don't get, 353 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 7: better then they're in. TROUBLE i think that they. 354 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: WILL i think they have the ability to do, that 355 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: but they got to get their mojo. Back it's a 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 4: little bit, like hey, Man i've been. There it's like 357 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: having a slump you as a. Hitter sometimes you don't 358 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: see the ball. Well sometimes the ball doesn't come out 359 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: of the hand the right. Way your mechanics are screwed. 360 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 4: Up you don't have the, mentality Like jim said that 361 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: you have the. Confidence why Is Jose alvarado having so 362 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: much success because he's confident on the? Mount why didn't 363 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: have it last? Year he wasn't confident on the. Mount 364 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: now he's confident now he's. Pitching, well they need to 365 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: turn that around and get a mental paradigm shift with 366 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: some of those guys In kirkering And romano in, particular 367 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: because if they don't get that out of those, guys 368 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: they're gonna be in. 369 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: Trouble SO i want to ask you guys. 370 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: This On monday, Night Aaron nola gives up the two 371 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: leadoff home runs first, inning, second and the next next 372 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: four innings were. SCORELESS i think he at eighty nine. 373 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Pitches he finishes the sixth, inning six, innings two runs. 374 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Allowed As Charlie manuel, said you'd like to, say because 375 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: he you, know we were wondering if he's going to 376 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: go back out. There you, know it took him out 377 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: in the good part of the, game you, know to 378 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: give him some confidence him leave on a positive. Note 379 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: he goes out out there to start the. Seven then 380 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: we were kind of talking about in the press box 381 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: and this was my. Theory and now you feel free 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: to disagree with me in terms of why would you 383 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: send him back out there when he's got six innings 384 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: tour in runs quality. Start he can go back to 385 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 2: the team hotel feel really good about. Himself and my 386 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: theory was they're down to, nothing they still have a 387 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: chance to win the. Game he's thrown pretty well for 388 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: four innings and who you're not going to put in 389 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: your plus guys in that, Situation you're not going to Pitch, 390 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: kirkering AND i know he. Struggled you're not going to Pitch. 391 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: ROMANO i know he, struggled but he's, TECHNICALLY i guess 392 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: maybe a plus. Guy you're definitely not Pitching alvarado Or. 393 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: Stromp so now you're Going Jose, Ruiz Carlos, Hernandez Tanner. 394 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: BANKS i Think Rob thompson in that moment's, going we've 395 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: got to Push Aaron nola because he's going to give 396 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: us the best chance to keep this game to. 397 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: Nothing and that's my opinion and why he. 398 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: Did, Now rob after the game was asked that and he, 399 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: said our bullpen was a little. SHORT i think if 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: If ruiz was thrown, better or maybe Even romano maybe 401 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: or somebody else was throwing, better maybe they Pull nola 402 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: out of there and then they take the two nothing 403 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: lead with the. Bullpen but that was my theory in 404 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: terms of the overall bullpen struggles kind of affecting some 405 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: of the other moves that they. 406 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 10: MAKE i agree with, you no question about. 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: It and when he says it's a little, short he 408 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily just mean a little short as far as no. 409 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: Availability they're a little short because take him pitching. Poorly, 410 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: YEAH i don't know that he actually meant, that but 411 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: that's WHAT i thought in my. Head there is absolutely 412 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: NO i Know Rob, THOMPSON i know how he. MANAGES 413 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: i know That Aaron nolall probably needed like that good, 414 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: start be able to come out of there and SAY 415 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: i feel good about. It he doesn't necessarily need it 416 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: because He's Aaron. Nola he doesn't that a lot of 417 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: things don't affect. Him BUT i know that for him, 418 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: personally it would have been great for him to get 419 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: out of there if they had a better. Bullpen he's 420 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: out of the, game, done, period end of, story no 421 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: question in my, mind and. 422 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: Especially with the way they look at the third time through. 423 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: Thing yeah, no, no you have no question about. It 424 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: but they try to push, him AND i mean the 425 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 4: bullpen not only has it been, terrible but it's been 426 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: terrible with inherited, runners like get somebody. Out you got 427 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: to get somebody, out, GUYS i, mean and and and 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: again that's really really. Demoralizing when you know someone's coming 429 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: out of there and they're not pitching, well and they 430 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 4: know and you know they're going to give it, up 431 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: it's it makes it very difficult on the manager and 432 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: it makes it very difficult on the players as, well 433 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: when you don't have the confidence that the game will 434 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: be able to be stopped. 435 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Somehow nola in that, game you, know he gave up 436 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the two home runs as. Well he, did he did 437 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: get it. Together he was really good with the breaking 438 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: ball and the change up are, down down and. DOWN 439 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: i just worry if you, know he's got to be 440 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: really really he's got to be really precise unless he 441 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: gets another tick of two on that. Fastball uh and 442 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: that sinker and they got to score some runs for. 443 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: HIM i, mean he has no run, support. Dude THEY 444 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: i mean they cannot score runs with the with the. 445 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 4: GUY i, mean he's got through The Cole amills. Thing 446 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: you got to, throw you, know one hit shutout every single. 447 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 10: Time and that's and that's a tough way to pitch 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 10: because he doesn't have one hit shutout stuff right now 449 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 10: and he's trying to manage through. 450 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 3: It he does. Not and So nola's own. Five you, 451 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: know it's it's like the fourth time Of. 452 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Phillies pitcher's gone to five and his first five starts 453 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: the last fifty three, years you, Know Alec asher did 454 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: in twenty, Fifteen David buchanan did it in twenty, fifteen 455 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: and it was Like Kyle abbott in nineteen ninety nine 456 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: started owning. Five it's just crazy to me to See 457 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: Aaron nola's name in that group. 458 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: Because of how good he's been over the course of his. Career, 459 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 3: uh you, know what's your level of concern with With 460 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: nola right? 461 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: Now do you? 462 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Think is you know the fastball is going to COME i, 463 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: Mean Dave Rob thompson is the way he says it's 464 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: going to come. 465 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: Back i'm not. 466 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: Worried he it sounds like he really means it that 467 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: it's going to come, back and he's not. Worried Now 468 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: Aaron nola he, SAID i hope it comes, back and 469 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: so that you, know take that for what it's. WORTH 470 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: i don't know that's he coet to just use those, 471 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: words but you know it's, like, OH I i hope 472 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: the velocity comes back at some, point but he needs 473 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: to get that tick or two. 474 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: Up i'm. 475 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Concerned i'm not going to put a level on. It 476 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: i'm just flat out concern because of the amount of 477 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: innings he has. Pitched he's been extremely durable and you, 478 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: know remains. Durable he takes the. Ball he doesn't, misstarts 479 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: but you can only generate fastball for so long before 480 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: you feel a little drop, off and then it becomes 481 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: time to. Adjust and we'll see if he, can you, 482 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: know make the adjustments. NEEDED i hope he gets that 483 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: tick or two. BACK i have great respect for the 484 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: competitor and the, man AND i think it's too early 485 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to say it. Won't but it's certainly not too early 486 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: to Say i'm. Concerned And i'm concerned about the rotation 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: with him and With, sanchez because that's the pillar of this. 488 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Team if that pillar starts, crumbling you in. 489 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Trouble So sanchez apparently was wanted to try to play 490 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: catch On wednesday At City. Field they, said, no let's 491 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: wait a couple of. Days he's going to play catch 492 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: On friday At Wrigley. Field Dave dombrowski, again we talked 493 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: to him yesterday in the. 494 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: Dugout he did not seem. Concerned he said that somebody. 495 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: Told Him, dave he's, Fine he's, okay and What dave 496 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: said to, us and, again we'll, See we will see 497 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: whenever he makes his next. Start he said That christopher 498 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: overall On wednesday or On tuesday was. Achy his entire 499 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: body was, achy so the forearm elbow was achy as. 500 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 3: WELL i don't know what that. 501 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: Means he didn't seem too too super concerned about, it but, 502 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: forearm as we, know is connected to the, elbow and 503 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: SO i will wait and see how he comes out of. 504 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 7: This, yeah a couple of things on The santa that concerns, 505 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 7: me no question about. IT i, mean because you, know 506 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 7: you don't want to have the guy be hurt short 507 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 7: term or long. Term you don't know how that can 508 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 7: develop Develop but as far As Aaron nola is, CONCERNED 509 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 7: i think about guys who've been pitched in a long 510 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 7: time in the. 511 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 4: League Zach granki is one that comes to. Mind he 512 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: was a different type of pitcher later on in his, 513 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: career and he had to put himself in a position 514 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: to put just pitched differently and to pitch backwards and 515 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: to utilize all the different. Pitches that's exactly How nolan 516 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 4: may have to end up pitching for the next several. 517 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 4: Years AND i think he can do. IT i think 518 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: he has the ability to do. 519 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 7: That BUT i, mean, again it's one of those situations, where, 520 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 7: hey it's a game of adjustments And hopefully he does 521 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 7: get his fastball back as a season wears. 522 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: ON i think he'll get a little bit more zip on, 523 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 4: it but he might have to be a different type 524 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: of a. 525 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Pitcher that's like you talked about. Adjustments what happened To? 526 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Rubin he's. There so my favorite quote about adjustments is 527 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Remember Frank. Tanana, yeah he SAID i threw the nineties 528 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: and the seventies and the seventies and the, nineties but 529 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: he kept on. WINNING i have. 530 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: To remember Facing Frank tanana in spring training In. Detroit 531 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: hit a home run off of them in spring? Training 532 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: was that right? 533 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: There you go At Joker Marshians. 534 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Stadium that's a three yard marching. 535 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 4: Stadium, yes that's, right that's. Awesome top of the home 536 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 4: RUN i think against them in like nineteen ninety two 537 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: or ninety. 538 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: Three that's all that was when he was thrown in the. Seventies. 539 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: Correct so before let's let's let's finish talking on the. 540 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: Offense but before we, DO i want to mention that 541 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: we are giving away A manco And manco gift. Card 542 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: you just simply have to follow at The Phillies show ON. 543 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: X follow The Phillies show ON x that's the Former 544 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: twitter and you can win yourself A manco And manco gift. 545 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: Card and so there you. Go the, offense, guys it's 546 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: kind of. Weird it's, frustrating kind of. Weird phillies are 547 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: eighth in baseball and batting average two fifty. One they're 548 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: tied for third and on base percentage three forty fifth 549 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: in total runners on base the season three and twenty 550 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: seven overall the, season, twelfth and runs per game four 551 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: point four to. Four so look at that and, go 552 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: it's not so. Bad but since the second game of the, 553 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: season they're averaging just over four runs per, game which 554 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: is twentieth in. Baseball so right now they're like they're 555 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: a bottom ten. Offense they've been a bottom ten offense 556 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: and runs per game since the second game of the. 557 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Season and here's why we kind of we've talked about. 558 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: This twenty first in baseball in slugging percentage three eighty 559 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: one slugging. Percentage they're twelfth in baseball batting with runners 560 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: in scoring. Position here's the one that really kills, you, 561 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 2: though runners in scoring position with two outs and you know, 562 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: one they're batting one to eighty eight with runners in 563 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: scoring position two, Outs so they're just not getting the 564 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: timely hits and they're not. 565 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: Slugging they have three extra base hits the entire met. 566 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Series and they got that run yesterday off Of, wednesday 567 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: off Of, diaz and that was luck because he didn't 568 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: even look At. Harper harper takes, third the infield comes, 569 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: in and the routine grond ball goes through drawing an 570 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: infield with complete. Luck BUT i will say, this of 571 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: all the flaws this team, Has i'm least concerned about 572 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: the offense because that's what they. Are they're up there 573 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: down they're. Inconsistent their, feast they're. Famine and when they 574 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: have their, feasts you, know they make hay and they 575 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: win a lot of ball games and improves their record 576 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: and they're standing and then they get Into october and 577 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: then it goes cold again and that's when they go. 578 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Home SO i just think that's what their offense, is 579 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have To you're gonna have to live 580 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: with it because their highs are pretty high and their 581 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: lows are pretty hot. Low BUT i think their highs 582 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be enough to get, them at least offensively 583 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: where they need to. Go it's all about to me 584 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: whether their bullpen and their rotation is going to hold. 585 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 11: Up what it has been astounding to me is the 586 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 11: fact that they've had a man out third base lesson two, 587 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 11: outs AND i don't know what the numbers, are but 588 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 11: WHEN i look at the game and watch the, game 589 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 11: man on third lesson two outs and maybe one through, 590 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 11: nine they can't get them, in can't get him. 591 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: In And i'm not sure if everybody's super. 592 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Tight i'm not sure if. 593 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: They're trying to do too. MUCH i don't know what it. 594 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: Is whether they're gripping the bat a little bit too, much, 595 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: they're you, know whatever the case may. Be, Yesterday Bryson, 596 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: scott who's been swinging the bat extremely, well been doing 597 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: a good job in the one, hole gets a hanging. 598 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: Slider they have a chance to open up the game 599 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: like nobody's. Business first, pitch he gets a hanging sider 600 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: right in the middle of the, plate takes. It then 601 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: later on he sees another one of those hanging. Sliders 602 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: it hangs too much and just pops it up to short. 603 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: Right can't drive the run. In if they score that, 604 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: run the game's. Over i'm not Blaming Bryson scott because 605 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: this is a epidemic with the, team but it's just not. 606 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: Happening i'm not sure. WHY i think you're, Right. JIM 607 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: i think it's a little bit of feast or. Famine 608 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: but when you have those situations and you have your 609 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: better hitters, up you gotta take advantage of driving that run, 610 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: in and it just hasn't. 611 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 10: Happened casianos has done a pretty good job of, it 612 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 10: had some success doing, it but other than, that guys 613 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 10: have been struggling with that and that makes it really 614 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 10: tough to win baseball, games especially type baseball, games when 615 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 10: your bullpen's not that. 616 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: Good, yeah they're the. One i'm not so concerned about the, 617 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: offense like you, said as much AS i am the 618 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: health of the Rotation Aaron nola and the. Bullpen and you, 619 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: KNOW i just think the fact that they're getting guys 620 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: on base maybe eventually the you, know it's going to. 621 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Turn if they can keep getting guys on, base eventually 622 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: those runs are gonna. SCORE i personally do believe that 623 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: that eventually they are going to start driving the. Ball you, 624 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: KNOW i remember so many times during The heyday seven 625 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: to eleven they be going through a slump AND i 626 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: remember standing in front Of Chase outley's locker one day 627 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: and they were in a brutal. Stretch he's, like we're 628 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: putting a ton of guys on. Base, eventually those guys 629 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: are going to. Score so as long as they can 630 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: kind of keep the, approach you, know they're they're chasing fewer, 631 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: pitches for whatever that's. Worth they're walking a lot. More but, 632 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: yeah they've got to start driving. RUNS i do think 633 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: that they're going to score. Runs and you, KNOW. 634 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 4: I do agree with. That it's just right now for whatever, Reason, 635 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: uh it's not. Happening and that's the reason why they're 636 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: losing baseball. 637 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: Games, yeah and they actually On, wednesday if you look 638 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: at some of the metric kits and balls hard mute 639 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: hit Like. 640 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: Kat has been totally. 641 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: Screwed, YEAH jt was probably like what DO i have to? 642 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: Do he was In he must have been feeling like 643 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: How Alec bohm was filling the first couple of weeks 644 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: of the season with some of the ball yesterday going 645 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: what is going on with my? 646 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: Life that this. 647 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Is this is what the offense. Is you're just gonna 648 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: have to deal with. It and, Yeah it's been this 649 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: way for a few years AND i don't see it. 650 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: Changing deal with it and ride. It ride the, highs 651 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: suffer through the. Lows but to, me pitching is still 652 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: number one. Concerned rotation and. Bullpen need that rotation to 653 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: stay together and be. Healthy need a little more From, 654 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: nola and you're gonna need to make a tweak in that, 655 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: bullpen probably more than a. Tweak be great to get a. 656 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Closer it would be great to get a closer and 657 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: slot and Slot alvarado down a little, bit or at 658 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: least have the flexibility to use them eight or nine 659 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: wherever that that lefty pocket is or wherever with the 660 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: three toughest outs. Are and that's WHERE i would be. 661 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: Looking the clock is ticking on this. Nucleus you, know 662 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: the odomein is high on this, team the payroll is, 663 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: high it's win. Now and a closer WOULD i think 664 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: be a nice big upgrade for this. Team, Guy, yeah 665 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: they've done. 666 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: That but do you Train Aiden miller For? Helsley that's the. 667 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 4: QUESTION I i just, that that is the. QUESTION i, 668 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: mean it gets down to. 669 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: That and he's the guy that's in my in my 670 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: focus and uh and the irony of it all is 671 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: he's the guy that started their twenty twenty two run 672 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: to The World, Series Ryan. Helsley but uh, yeah that's. 673 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: Right BUT i don't, know you, know they have to 674 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: be protective of the three big, Guys, Painter, crawford And. Miller, 675 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: yeah and that's why it's gonna. Be it's a really 676 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 1: because that's the type of player that's gonna. 677 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 4: TAKE i, mean that's the type of you, know especially right, 678 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: now If i'm sitting there as The Saint Louis, Cardinals 679 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: i'm Going i'm waiting out till somebody gives me their 680 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: best hitting prospect or SOMEONE i think can make an 681 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: impact in my team fairly. 682 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: Soon, yeah that would be tough pill to, swallow trading 683 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: somebody like, that exactly, Right, yeah that would be tough. 684 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: Man All, Right i'm Gonna i'm gonna put it on 685 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: THE gm BECAUSE i don't have the guts to make that. 686 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: Call MISTER, gm talk to. Me tough to do it. 687 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: Now but in another two weeks or three weeks AND 688 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: i see the same thing and we're floating around five, 689 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: hundred MAYBE i. DO i consider. 690 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: It you better know you can win The World. 691 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: Series, well you need to see a lot of other 692 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: things improve. Too that's the other. THING i. 693 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 2: Mean IF i don't see the offense start turning things, 694 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: around IF i don't see some other guys in the, 695 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: bullpen you, know because one one reliever to me is 696 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: not Gonna they're not like they're, there they've, Won they're 697 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: not four games better in the standings right Now Ryan 698 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: helsley is in the. BULLPEN i, mean they're, better for, 699 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: sure BUT i want to see some overall improvement to 700 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: actually make me feel confident this move is going to 701 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 2: make a. Difference otherwise you've just traded a top hitting 702 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: prospect for a closer that you might not even need 703 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: that much because you're losing every, game you, know three 704 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 2: to two going in the eighth. 705 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 7: Inning, yeah it's a difficult decision to do right, now 706 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 7: AND i would not do it now IF i was A. 707 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: GM i don't think there's any question about. THAT i 708 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: have to see how play. OUT i got to find 709 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 4: out Whether romano and you know other And kirker and 710 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: can get their act together and start pitching. 711 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 7: Away they think that they can and have the ability 712 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 7: to do and if they can do, that, Great if they, 713 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 7: can't then THEN i got to start putting my thinking 714 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 7: cap on about you, know making them very very tough. 715 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Decisions, everything everything has to be, clicking and you have 716 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: to know that we're one piece away from one of 717 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:24,959 Speaker 1: the world. 718 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: Series, absolutely we got more to. 719 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: Come Tomorrow we're gonna have a little national perspective on The, 720 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: phillies so make sure to tune in. 721 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 4: Tomorrow. 722 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: Guys that was fun all things, considered even though it's 723 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: kind of gone south for The phillies last but they 724 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: they're off. 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