WEBVTT - Episode 42: Beyond Biden with Speaker Newt Gingrich 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.880 Up next, The Truth with Lisa Welcome back to the 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.160 Truth with Lisa Booth. So, what does the future of 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.440 the Republican Party look like after Joe Biden's presidency? What 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.680 does the future of the country look like? I'm gonna 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.479 get those answers for you from the former Speaker of 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.599 the House, Knook Gingrich. He's also the author of the 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.840 book Beyond Biden, where he charts the path forward for us. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.720 He's a historian. He's also a former professor as well. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.200 You know, we look around right now in the future 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.559 seems pretty parallels. It seems bleak. There's a lot to 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.160 be concerned with, but Speaker says, to not lose hope. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.199 You know, this is a man who wrote the Contract 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.320 with America where he outlined to voters what a Republican 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.600 majority would do in n It was a bold move, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.880 and voters rewarded him with the Republican majority in both 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.240 the House and the Senate. I'm really looking forward to 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.200 getting his wisdom and his perspective on where we are 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.560 now and what the future holds. It's going to be 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:12.640 a great show with a great guy. Stay tuned. So 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.080 I am really excited about having this next guest on 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.319 this show because you know, right now, everything seems pretty perilous, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.680 it seems pretty daunting. So I am looking forward to 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.960 having this conversation with Speaker Nuke Ingridge, who is a 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.120 student of history, a lover of history, former Speaker of 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.319 the House, someone to offer us some wisdom and reflection 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.240 about where we are now comparatively speaking to before. He's 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.679 also the author of the book Beyond Biden. Speaker, it 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.880 is an honor to have you on the show. Well, listen, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.759 it's great to be with you, and you've been doing 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.400 such an amazing job hosting your programming. But you've done 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.880 that with everything you've done in life. So I thought 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.920 this would be a very challenging and exciting experience because 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.440 I know both how smart you are and how much 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.200 energy you have, and I look forward to it, and 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.960 I think in a sense, Beyond Biden is really directed 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.680 at your generation and younger people even than you, like 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.000 my grandchildren, uh to say, hey, you know, we can 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.120 rebuild this country. You know, never never, as Churchill once said, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.480 never give up. So I'm delighted have a chance to 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:21.320 talk about where we're gonna be once Biden disappears into history. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.320 And so where will we be I mean, looking beyond Biden. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.960 You know what does that look like? Well, I think 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.160 in a funny kind of way, by being so militant 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:37.960 and so aggressive, the big government socialists have actually created 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.080 an environment where the average American has been forced to 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.919 think about what do they really believe? And the result 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.880 has been there shocked to discover they're really much more 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.560 conservative than they thought they were. And that particularly conserving 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.120 the sense that they don't want a gigantic federal government. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:58.079 They don't want inflation, they don't want big bureaucracies dictating 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.920 their lives. They don't want Paul politicians being hypocrites and 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.000 setting up one set of rules for the average person 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.520 in a different set of rules for the powerful. UH. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.639 And so in a way, the conversation we're having as 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.480 a country is really clarifying who we are UH and 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.200 what I think will turn out to be very positive. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.680 At the same time, when you look, for example, at 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:25.000 the states that have Republican governors who are applying common sense, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.160 things are working. The schools are better, the roads are better, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.920 the jobs are better. If you look at the I 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.040 think of the top ten states and employment, all ten 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.760 have Republican governors, and nine have Republican state legislatures, and 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.840 they're just they're applying a different set of rules than 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.320 say California or Illinois or New York, all of which 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.800 are dominated by the unions and by politicians and by 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.600 people who believe in big government bureaucracy, and all of 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.160 which are in that sense falling behind. Do you think 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.440 American or enough Americans are awake to that? To what 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.240 you just laid out, well, appalling date is pretty devastating. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.880 I mean when if you ask people do you think 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.440 this is working? You get an overwhelming no. If you 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.800 ask people, uh, do you favor big government socialism? The 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.080 biggest number we've gotten is eight. Uh. And Rasmussen pretty 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.479 well tracks the same thing. So when people think about it, uh, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.760 given what's happening, particularly in Washington, but also in Sacramento 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.440 and Albany and Springfield, Uh, people are saying no, that 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.840 that's not what they want. And I think that's gonna 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.320 have in two thousand twenty two and two thousand twenty four, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.800 almost a tsunami. In fact, in one of my newsletters, 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.320 which I do three a week at English Street sixty 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.320 that are free and one of them was on the 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.760 coming tsunami, because I think it's gonna be bigger than 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.159 a tide. I think that, uh, the rejection is going 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.640 to be breathtaking, and the number of people left wing 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.960 Democrats who lose their seats is going to be far 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.719 more than anybody in Washington thinks today. But do you 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.599 think Democrats will allow for that? Because what we have 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.040 seen with the left is a changing of the rules. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.000 You know, if they if things aren't going their way, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.080 they change the rules. We saw this before election, using 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.400 the pandemic, using COVID to lean on mail and ballots. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.640 We've seen this with them trying to push forward with nationalizing, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.800 federalizing or elections. I mean, what do you think we 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.360 can expect from them on that front? Well, I think 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.520 to the degree they can cheat, they will uh. I mean, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.599 it's no accident that the New York City Council has 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.400 uh is talking about letting eight hundred thousand people who 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.839 are here illegally vote in New York City elections. Uh. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.680 I think there's a real sense on the left that 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.520 if the election is limited to legal American citizens that 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.480 they're in real trouble. So they both try to vote 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.680 people who are not alive, or people who don't exist, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.359 or people who vote multiple times, and they try to 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.920 find ways to widen to people who are not legally American. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.960 You know, you had things like and I think it 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.880 was Wisconsin, the Service Employees Union had a nursing home 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.120 where they provided all the workers, and the workers were 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.680 going around the people who had Alzheimer's and other challenges 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.400 and getting them to vote, even though it was clear 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.159 they had no idea who they were voting for. And 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.839 so those particular unionized workers were able in effect to 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.919 vote ten or twenty or thirty times by getting people 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.080 who were technically available with It's very different if you're 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.640 if your relative comes in to see you, and your 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.600 relative knows what you believe, uh, there's at least some 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.320 grounds for a lot of having you vote. But if 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.720 somebody comes in who knows that they want to elect 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.200 a big government, the Democrat and that are gonna exploit 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.520 you because you now cognitively don't know what you're doing. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.359 There's something profoundly wrong with that. And that's what was 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.640 happening in that particular nursing home in Wisconsin, and of 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.320 course in places like California, they were just making up 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.800 the ballots. I mean, there's no question that they were stuffing. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.880 One of the great breakthroughs in the Virginia governor's race 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.520 was they somehow and I don't know how they did this, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.400 but they somehow got the Democratic governor and the Democratic 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.960 Secretary of State to agree that they would count all 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.760 of the mail in ballots and all of the absentee 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.920 ballots before they counted the people who voted an election day. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.240 And the reason that mattered was the event if you 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.880 were suddenly losing that that you were not in a 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:50.520 position to go back out and manufacture additional ballots because 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.160 you've already voted them all. Had that happened, for example, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.040 in Minnesota a few years back, we would have re 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.840 elected the Republican senator who was a add on election 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.480 night until magically, early in the morning, somebody found two 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.440 precincts in the trunk of a car, and those supercincts 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.440 happen to be overwhelmingly Democrat, and they happen to show 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.280 up at just the right moment, and so the Democrat 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.480 won by a really narrow margin. Well, what they did 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.760 in Virginia blocked all that sort of game playing, and 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.480 I think you'll see more and more states insisting on 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.200 honest elections. And when when we do polls five or 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.760 eighty seven or sun the American people want you to 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.480 show your identity, wants you to prove you are who 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.520 you are. Once it restricted only to legal American citizens. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.480 So I think even there, uh get, it's getting harder 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.000 and harder for the left to cheat. Well. I definitely 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.280 think the election woke a lot of Americans up in 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.199 that regard of just saying, hey, look is this fairer? 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.920 What are we doing? You know, what can we do 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.240 to sort of safeguard or elections? You know, sir? It's 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.000 one of those things that you look at today's dynamics 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.360 with politics right, and there used to be conservatives who 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.000 would say, oh, the left evil, and I used to 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.200 be like, no, you know, we have political differences. But 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.520 but now it's like, you look at what they did 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.560 to Kavanaugh, you look at what they tried doing to 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.800 Kyle Rittenhouse. It's there seems to be a different dynamic 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.199 at play where it's not just simple political disagreements. The 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.960 left wants to destroy the lives of their political opponents. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:27.520 Is that new? I think the depth of the bitterness 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.000 is new. I think, you know, we we have. It's 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.080 kind of ironic the very people who worried about um 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:40.000 communists being smeared in the nineteen fifties now enthusiastically run 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.400 around smearing people. But there's always been a certain amount 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.400 of that kind of toughness in American politics, but it's 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.880 gone to a new level of not just attacking you, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.959 but attacking your family, almost trying to make it too 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.559 painful for decent people to be involved in public life, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.160 basically saying no, you do this and your whole your 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.240 whole family is going to pay a huge penalty psychologically. Uh. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.920 And I think that it's tragic that they have that 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.760 kind of attitude. So I would say that, um, we 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.800 are in a time when the bitterness of the left, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.920 the degree to which they dislike America, the degree to 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:25.120 which they think that the average American is beneath contempted. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.920 It's it's the the whole Hillary Clinton attitude. It's the incorrigibles. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.880 It said, as somebody one Democrats said, those people who 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.400 smell like they went to Walmart. Um, you know which 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.720 that happens, by the way, to have almost every American 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.520 go to it at least once a year. But it's 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.440 just this whole contempt for normal people. And part of 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:50.800 what it's done is it's driven everyday working Democrats out 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.720 of the Democratic Party. I mean, the the steady stream, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.600 whether you're Hispanic or black, or white or Asian American, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.959 the steady stream away from uh, big government, socialism and 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.360 away from left wing Democrats is amazing. That's why recently 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.640 we won a special election in San Antonio for a 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.280 state legislative seat. It was a district that was seventy Hispanic, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.120 but in fact we were carrying Hispanics. And as it's 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.079 one of the great ironies, the left has always counted 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.680 on what they would have thought of as as people 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.400 of color. Well, it turns out that people of color 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.600 aren't stupid, uh, and that people of color are increasingly 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:34.400 voting against high taxes, big bureaucracy, and radical social programs. Well, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.120 and that was actually one of the things I wanted 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.560 to ask you about, because to your point, we've seen 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.440 this realignment happened, particularly under Trump, of this diverse Republican 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.880 party that represents the working class, Democrats have become the 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.080 party of the coastal elites. Was that just President Trump 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.840 or or how did that realignment happen? You know what's 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.680 behind that? Well, it wou'd have been building for a 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.440 long time. I found, in preparing to think about the 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.000 next few years that it was very helpful to go 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.720 back and reread Theodore Whites Making the President of nineteen 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.840 and Making of the President in nineteen seventy two and 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.320 in sixty eight. White talks at length, both about the 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.040 revolutionary mood. Remember remember, Um, you wouldn't because you're too young, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.960 but so I'll tell you. Uh. In in nineteen sixty nine, 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.920 we had twenty five hundred bombings or nine seventy two thousand, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:32.079 five hundred in the United States. We had a scientist 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.880 at the University of Wisconsin killed by a bomb. We 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.800 had a historian at Columbia University have his life's work 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.720 destroyed by a mob. I mean, we were very close 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.040 to the left going crazy. And in fact, the current 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:52.040 UH prosecutor, who was actually a non prosecutor UH in 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.240 San Francisco as a communist UH. His father is still 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.040 in prison with a life sentence for having killed a 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:04.319 Brinx guard truck, and the guy who guarded the truck 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.040 and his wife spent years in prison. UH. Lead leading 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.760 his son to be anti prison as opposed to anti 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.400 killing brink guardsen. Uh And, but but that was a 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.040 robbery to fund the revolution of sort of an imitation 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:22.079 of Joseph Stalin's early years in robbing banks to fund 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.760 the Communist Party in Russia. Uh And we've forgotten how 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.440 much that was in ninety two or another. In the 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.320 sixty eight book, White has a chapter on the media 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.360 which is really worth reading, and it really sounds like today. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:43.000 I mean, the biases, the the the anti Republican, anti conservative, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.040 anti American traits of the New York Times, the Washington Post, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.960 they're all right there in ninety In the nineteen seventy 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:57.280 two book, he explains that George McGovern is has a 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.240 huge problem with the left, and and the line he used, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.080 which I thought was really helpful, is that the liberal 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:08.040 ideology had become a liberal theology and you could no 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.600 longer debated, argue about it, modify it, because to do 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.160 so with an act of heresy had become a basically 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:19.240 a quasi religious movement. No this iso. So what you've 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.280 seen is the steady growth and evolution on college campuses, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.120 in the news media, and the bureaucracy of people who 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:32.120 have been absorbed into this new theology. Uh. And if 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.760 you think about it, if you if you think of 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.840 this as a war of religion between a secular left 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:43.520 wing anti you know, anti Christian, anti jew, uh, anti American, uh, 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:48.280 anti national religion and the rest of us, then they 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.400 have the same fanaticism that you would have gotten from 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.480 the French Revolution, or from the Russian Revolution or the 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.200 Chinese Revolution. They're remarkable parallels between They're at a two 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.480 and the way Mao operated in the Cultural Revolution. And 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.600 on my podcast at news World, I've interviewed Chinese Americans. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.240 One of them was a woman who literally was in 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.000 the Cultural Revolution under Mao, was a very young girl 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.640 and now is fighting about the schools in Loudon County, Virginia, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.760 which she says have taken on Maoist behavior. Uh. She said, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.680 I feel like I'm back in China again. And Uh, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.040 I think that that's real. I think that the left 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.920 here has the same revolutionary tendencies that you would have 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:36.600 seen in Paris in seventeen ninety two, or in Moscow 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:41.520 in nineteen seventeen, or in China up to today, ping 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.480 in many ways as the new mau Well and I 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.840 also interviewed to your point, I interviewed Maximo Alverez to 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.920 escape Cuba. Who are the same sentiments that you just 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.840 laid out of a concern that we're turning into Cuba 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.760 you just mentioned, you know, turning into China. Why does 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:01.800 so many people on the left hate America? That the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.720 one of the one I used to be a college teacher, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.760 and one of the characteristics of college teachers is that 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.800 they read lots of books. They walk into classrooms where 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.600 all of these eager young students stare at them, uh 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.600 slavishly because actually they can flunk them. I mean, there 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:24.240 are there are a few places of untested power comparable 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.200 to being a professor in a college classroom. And so 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.960 of course the students who are relatively clever all suck 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.080 up to them and go, oh, this is such a 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.600 brilliant lecture. I can't tell you how much it meant 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.680 to me to be able to sit here and learn 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.520 from a genius like you. Well, they believe all this stuff, 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.080 and you know they some of them actually work as 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.920 much as fifteen hours a week. I mean, it's an 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.520 amazing project. Uh and uh. In fact, a good friend 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.360 of mine used to explain to his working class relatives 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.320 that he'd gotten a PhD because he only worked fifteen 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.200 hours a week, and they said, ah, you know, you're 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.480 ripping off the man. We got it, you're really clever, obvious. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.640 That sort of fit their industrial man ality. Uh. But 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.320 the fact is they didn't look around. They realize. You know, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:09.760 people like Bill Gates has more money than they do. Well, 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.880 he doesn't deserve to have more money than they do. 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.639 And the guy who is the local lawyer who drives 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.240 a better car than they do, well, why does he that? 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.199 I mean, what does he do? He just he just 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.800 does law, whereas I am a brilliant genius who does knowledge. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.480 And I think that the level of envy is very 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.480 real and very deep. The other factor that we have 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.520 just have to own up to is our immigration policy 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.560 allows people to come here who hate us. Uh, they 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.640 hated us back when they were home. I mean, I'm 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.080 always amazed, for example, when somebody who has migrated from 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.040 say Somalia, tells us how bad America is. I mean, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.320 first of all, I'm a very happy. We gotta have 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.000 a policy of saying we will always pay for a 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.760 return ticket if you'd like to go home. Um. But 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.480 in addition, you look at a woman, a Somali woman 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:03.040 in America and a Somali woman so in Mogadishu. Uh. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.640 You have to be literally crazy to think that you're 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.400 better off in Mogadishu. But they come here, they get 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.359 to be elected to Congress, and suddenly they disliked the 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.080 country which has liberated them and protected them and given 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.680 them status. Uh. And you have to think, as Glad 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.200 Sad who wrote a great book on this about claiming 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.800 that the left wingism is actually a virus and you 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.600 can't deal with them rationally because these are people whose 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:34.240 brains are now occupied by this virus. You know. Ah, yeah, 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.360 there's a lot he says. You know, when you're dealing 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:40.639 with somebody who refuses to admit that you have a 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.639 higher income in the US than in Somalia, you're not 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.560 having an argument. You're dealing with a person who was 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.720 a mental illness. Uh. And I think that that is 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.879 sort of spread on the left. And because it's a 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.840 some it is a secular religious movement. If you don't 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.600 believe that, you will be coerced and punished. And and 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.040 it's it's this this attitude which has allowed Nancy Pelosi 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.800 to run a dictatorship with an amazingly narrow margin. I 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.440 wouldn't as a former Speaker of the House, I would 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.320 not have thought it possible to do the things that 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.320 she does. I just think that it's she she gets. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.359 In fact that I've suggested that they should that the 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.200 lemming should replace the donkey as the symbol of the 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.080 Democratic Party because she gets people to walk off the 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.640 cliffs suicidally on a regular basis. She has a very 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.440 narrow margin, and probably thirty or forty of her members 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.640 are literally committing suicide every time they vote with her, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.240 and they do it anyway, I think because being kneecapped 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.800 by Pelosi this week is a more certain punishment than 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.600 being fired in November of two thousand two. Quick commercial break, 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:57.040 more with Speaker Gangridge on the other side. One thing 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.679 that really concerns me about where we are now is 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.639 we seen this government reaction to COVID and leaders not 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.000 just in the United States but around the world using 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.840 it to reshape society, reshape the role of the federal 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.439 government in our lives. Are just the government in general, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.080 and like the beauty of America as we've been a 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.840 constitutional republic, self governance, putting power in the hands of 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.000 the people, and it seems like that power has been 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:25.119 taken away. How do we regain that What does that 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.119 mean for the country moving forward? I mean, it's it's 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.360 hard to imagine how we take that power back when 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.879 it's been taken so egregiously. Well, I think in a 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.719 lot of states, though you're seeing that happen again, Republican 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.760 governors as a group, not all of them, but virtually 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:45.480 all of them are much more inclined to allow people 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.520 to live their own lives and run their own risk. 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.720 If you if you compare Florida in Texas with New 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.240 York and California, there is just an astonishing difference in 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.560 attitude in the governing people. UM. I do think that 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:03.480 across the planet. Uh, the bureaucrats and the politicians saw 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.879 this as a great opportunity uh to be brilliant, and 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:09.840 and they would have said they were doing what science 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.080 told them to. The truth is, and I'm in the 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.040 middle of reading a whole series of books right now 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:18.520 on on the COVID epidemic and how it happened, what 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.199 was done, etcetera. The truth is, first of all, we 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:27.480 have a terrible incompetent, obsolete public health system. I'm embarrassed 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.240 by how bad the Center for Disease Control has become. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:36.600 It's a it's a politically dominated, timid, and ineffective bureaucracy, 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.919 which actually made the COVID epidemics substantially worse in the 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:45.040 United States by the bureaucracy and their attitudes. I think 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:49.520 that it's clear that politicians like Cuomo killed thousands of 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.239 people unnecessarily by doing exactly the opposite of what they 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.040 should have done, putting people with COVID in the nursing 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.480 homes instead of keeping them out of the nursing homes. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.240 I think in New York, for example, we're going to 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.480 find that literally thousands, minimum of seven thousand, maybe as 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.760 many as fifteen thousand senior citizens were killed by Andrew 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.560 Cuomo's policies, just plain killed. Uh and uh So in 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.080 that sense, I think it's it's bad. I also think 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.480 that on a worldwide basis, and this is partly the 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.959 doing of Bill Gates, who has been funding programs all 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.240 over the planet that are on the surface philanthropic and 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:34.080 positive and designed to wipe out tuberculosis or wipe out 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.800 malaria or whatever. They're all sound great, but what he's 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.920 done in the process has created a worldwide group think, 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:45.480 and so across the planet people decided that they would 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:51.199 lock down. Now it's interesting if you go to Japan, Korea, Taiwan, 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:56.640 and Singapore, they followed very strict programs that are classic 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.880 and how you deal with epidemics. They had huge amounts 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.879 of testing UH and they tracked people UH and and 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.800 found out exactly who had the disease isolated only the 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.800 people with the disease kept their economies up and running UH. 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.560 And as a result, I think in Taiwan they've they've 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.440 had something like don't don't take this number literally because 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.560 I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.200 but I think they've had something like eighty people die 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.359 and maybe nine hundred who got COVID because they just 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.000 they trapped the virus as fast as they could find it, 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.080 didn't let those particular people spread it, and so the 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:40.080 virus died out. UH. Singapore was similar. South Korea has 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.280 done a great job, Japan did a pretty good job, 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.840 not quite as good, but all four of those countries 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:51.520