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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the second hour of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. We've been talking to a lot of

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Speaker 2: politics today. This is politics, but of a slightly different

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Speaker 2: kind or in a different venue than national presidential aspirations

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Speaker 2: and Senate and congressional see. As you know, we've talked

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Speaker 2: about it here on the show. Harvard President Claudine Gay

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Speaker 2: stepped down from that role, and she stepped down after

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Speaker 2: two things happened. One a universally I think considered disastrous

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Speaker 2: response to her testimony about anti semitism on campus. Notably,

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Speaker 2: she was asked by Elise Stefonic, who, I will say,

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Speaker 2: people are also talking about as a Trump VP. But

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Speaker 2: put put that aside. People are saying, but Elise Stephonic

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Speaker 2: was asking Claudine Gay of anti semitism on campus. It

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Speaker 2: did not go well, as you know, Claudine Gay said

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Speaker 2: that calling for the extermination of the Jewish people would

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Speaker 2: be a violation of Harvard's community standards depending on the context,

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Speaker 2: and everyone sort of understandably said, Wow, this is a

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Speaker 2: campus that demands proper pronoun usage. This is a campus

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Speaker 2: that demands that you obey the dictates of affirmative action,

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Speaker 2: but never speak about lowered standards in affirmative action. That

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Speaker 2: one I think particularly hitting home these days. So Claudine

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Speaker 2: Gay Clay, she steps down after not only the testimony

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Speaker 2: but also the plagiarism. Everyone keeps saying allegations. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they're allegations. When you've published something and someone else

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Speaker 2: published something else that you've stolen beforehand. This isn't a

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Speaker 2: criminal matter. She's not entitled to a presumption of innocence forever.

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Speaker 2: There's no court that's going to adjudicate this. She plagiarized

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Speaker 2: a lot, we know this, and had a deeply unimpressed

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Speaker 2: sive record as an academic even without the plagiarism, which

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Speaker 2: is why I think it was untenable for remaining her position. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why is this now in the news again or why

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Speaker 2: is this worth us spending some time on again. Bill Ackman,

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Speaker 2: who is a left of center hedge fund billionaire on

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Speaker 2: Harvard alumni, was understandably rather annoyed at the testimony of

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Speaker 2: Claudian Gay and then also pushed for her to step

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Speaker 2: down in response to this, and he was very vocal

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Speaker 2: as well about the plagiarism issue that she had in

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Speaker 2: response to this.

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Speaker 3: Now whenever to just get ready for this because you

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Speaker 3: may not have heard this.

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Speaker 2: A publication which is like Politico but for business, as

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Speaker 2: in a left wing hatchet job kind of site. Business

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Speaker 2: Insider ran a story on Neeri Oxman, who is Bill

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Speaker 2: Ackman's wife, and they ran a story saying that she

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Speaker 2: plagiarized her PhD thesis or parts of her PhD thesis. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've actually looked into this little bit, Clay, and what

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Speaker 2: they're saying is plagiarism. In some instances, she cited the

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Speaker 3: But she's missing a quotation mark.

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Speaker 2: These are instances where you could say, at least in

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Speaker 2: some of the cases, this is an error instead of

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Speaker 2: theft that is possible in plagiarism cases. Right, if you

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Speaker 2: put a quotation mark in one place but not in

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Speaker 2: the other, and you cited in your bibliography properly, you

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Speaker 2: know it's a typo, it's not actually someone intending. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean you shouldn't correct it, but it's a type

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Speaker 2: of okay. But what this shows, as Clay, is that

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Speaker 2: the left is so incensed that the DEI apparatus has

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Speaker 2: received you know, it has been rufo'ed.

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Speaker 3: Christopher Rufo has been victorious here.

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Speaker 2: The DEI Apparatus has taken such a big hit that

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Speaker 2: they will now go after the wives of people. This

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Speaker 2: spouses of people outwardly involve in trying to advocate for

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Speaker 2: standards and and you know, basic ethics at Harvard University.

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Speaker 2: I think people have seen the underside of the left

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this in general, if I've always kind of liked

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Speaker 4: the mafia standard, which is, if you are a wife

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Speaker 4: the table, right Like, even the mafia made the decision

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Speaker 4: that they were going to leave families alone. Now, if

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Speaker 4: son could be a target too, right Like, once you

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Speaker 4: And I would imagine they didn't really have a lot

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Speaker 4: Greta Thunberg style. I don't think you should be able

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Speaker 4: to remember when Greta would like say all sorts of

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Speaker 4: that is a shield. I don't think that's fair. But

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Speaker 4: the reason why Bill Ackman's wife was targeted had nothing

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Speaker 3: Now he turned the tables on him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say, yes the next stage.

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Speaker 3: He's a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: He's a billionaire who has obviously very very substantial resources

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Speaker 2: is having people who are very good at research. Right,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be putting one hundred million dollar

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Speaker 2: very smart, very meticulous researchers to be able to pull

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Speaker 2: his analytic theft now to look at because the belief

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Speaker 2: is that MIT the institution colluded effectively with the media,

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Speaker 2: like someone in the upper reaches of MIT, which is

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Speaker 2: another place where the president writers mit U penn at Harvard.

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Speaker 4: The only president so far to survive that testimony and

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Speaker 2: MIT is where near Oxman, his wife Bill Ackman's wife

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Speaker 2: got her PhD. That someone there decided to work with

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Speaker 2: she's a plagiarist to effectively, you know, take down the Ackman,

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Speaker 2: you know, take Ackman down a peg, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: given what's going on here. So now what he's doing

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Speaker 2: so when you know, if the professor of Harvard, I remember,

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Speaker 2: a tangled web we weave? When first week, you know,

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Speaker 2: people would be like, wait a second, like I've heard

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Speaker 2: that's something you just came up with. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you can find this stuff very easily. Basically for people

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Speaker 2: that's basically what they're doing in many respects.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and here's the truth of now.

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Speaker 2: Remember college campuses are roughly certainly at the at the

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Speaker 2: it's sort of turned into open season on plagiarism finding

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Speaker 2: In Claywood's I think, I think that people are going

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Speaker 2: the top echelon. I think you'll see that there's plagiarism

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Speaker 2: DEI hires. Well, I think that's true. It's also going

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Speaker 2: to show you how worthless most of these articles really are.

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Speaker 2: And that's maybe what stands out the most. It's very

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Speaker 3: And so I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I mean this is I do think we're circling back on.

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Speaker 4: In her entire academic career, Clauding Gay published eleven articles.

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Speaker 4: Think about that for a minute. This woman has been

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Speaker 4: working in academia for her entire life. How is Clotting

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Speaker 4: Gay like forty five fifty years old. I mean something

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Speaker 4: this is where for Bill Ackman's a good example Buck.

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Speaker 3: And I think they've been stunned.

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Speaker 4: And this October seventh response has been eye opening for them,

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Speaker 4: And they're recognizing the paucity of achievement of many people

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Speaker 4: And I would say, this is not just academia. Look

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Speaker 2: This is also where and this is going to be

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Speaker 2: unnecessary for it to happen. In a post Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: It is now more.

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Speaker 2: I would say more appropriate, may not be the right term,

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Speaker 2: where did we decide that for superficial diversity of skin color, ethnicity,

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Speaker 2: that might have really negative you know, it's one thing

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Speaker 2: people are asking the very understandable question right now, Hold

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 4: I wish that there was an actual conversation where you

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Speaker 4: it would require that there be a principle and precedent

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Speaker 4: in place. And look, people can disagree with a lot

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Speaker 4: of what I say and a lot of what you say,

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Speaker 4: but there is a logic and principle behind it. That is,

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Speaker 4: I think what I would think if Republicans were trying

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Speaker 4: prison for the rest of his life, I would think

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Speaker 4: that was a really bad precedent to say. Because the

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Speaker 4: problem is, once you set a precedent, it's not going

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Speaker 4: to stand alone forever.

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Speaker 3: You have to follow it.

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Speaker 2: And so what would Rachel Maddow say to that? So

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that the one point of consistency

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Speaker 2: you can find when it comes to the left. Usually

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Speaker 2: it's all inconsistent, hypocritical.

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Speaker 3: And arbitrary.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's how they do things, like my team does it,

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Speaker 2: it's good. Your team does it, it's bad. The one

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Speaker 2: place where you can say the left has been remarkably

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Speaker 2: consistent now for seven years, is that any speak the

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Speaker 2: truth here, and the truth is anti Trump. Therefore we

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Speaker 2: are anti Trump. They kind of created this like logic circle, right,

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Speaker 2: they created this self fulfilling prophecy. And that's what they've

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Speaker 2: done with everything. Oh remember you don't hear this as

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Speaker 2: much anymore. Trump is undermining our institutions. Well now they're

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Speaker 2: using our institutions to try to destroy Trump in the

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Speaker 2: most obvious and egregious ways. Right, you see what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: there's no rule of politics that they haven't been willing

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Speaker 2: to break in order to stop this guy. That's the

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Speaker 2: one thing that I have seen from the Democrats that

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Speaker 2: has been consistent, whether it's using the FBI and the

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Speaker 2: DOJ to interfere in election to bring charges now again,

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Speaker 2: and that was twenty sixteen. Now, of course they're doing

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Speaker 2: the same thing in twenty twenty four. You go down

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Speaker 2: the list. We can't even talk about rubicon's being crossed

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Speaker 2: any There is no rubicon. They've crossed it so many times.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's also an instructive lesson for everybody

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Speaker 4: emotional response doesn't lead to you becoming that which you dislike.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the Trump response is so perfectly

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Speaker 4: emblematic of Democrats being so opposed to Trump that they're

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Speaker 4: willing to destroy the country to keep him from.

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Speaker 3: Being in office and being in a position of power.

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Speaker 4: And again, the joy behars of the world are not

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Speaker 4: smart enough to really understand the historical context of the

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Speaker 4: decisions that they're making. But I wonder when Rachel Maddow

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Speaker 4: is going to bed at night, does she ever lay

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Speaker 4: there and think to herself, we're unleashing furies that are

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Speaker 4: not going to end with Trump. Because this is an

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Speaker 4: important lesson for everybody out there listening. Trump is what

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Speaker 4: seventy seven or seventy eight years old. In fifteen years,

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Speaker 4: the odds would be that Donald Trump is no longer

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Speaker 4: going to be alive. Right, Most seventy seven year olds,

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Speaker 4: by the time they're ninety two, they're not here anymore.

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Speaker 4: But the precedents put in place for Trump will outlive him,

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Speaker 4: and it will outlive all of us.

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Speaker 2: But this is why there's a doomsday narrative here, and

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Speaker 2: this is you know, it all actually lines up. Anything

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Speaker 2: is justified to stop Trump because if you don't stop Trump,

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Speaker 2: everything ends in this country. That is the message there

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Speaker 2: is that that you know what I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: the way they view it. And so we have no

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Speaker 2: institutions left if you don't stop Trump. Therefore, stopping Trump

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Speaker 2: means you can undermine or weaponize any institution. Right, But

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Speaker 2: you realize, Clay, I mean, this is not even just

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Speaker 2: in our own context historically politically, this is the pathway

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Speaker 2: to absolutism.

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Speaker 3: Anything that I have to do is justify and buck.

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Speaker 4: What percentage of Democrats if Trump were assassinated.

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Speaker 3: Would exalt?

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the SkELL Did you see the

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Speaker 4: clip of the journalists that got caught on audio just

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Speaker 4: having a conversation between the two of them making jokes

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Speaker 4: about if Trump were assassinated how they would enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that clip that was circulating?

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Speaker 4: Maybe our staff can grab that and look, I understand,

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Speaker 4: people make jokes, and sometimes the jokes are off color

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Speaker 4: and sometimes there's dark humor. But it had me thinking

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Speaker 4: this morning as I was prepping for the show. In

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Speaker 4: the same way that we've seen outrageous defenses of Hamas

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Speaker 4: and their brutal attack on innocent Israelis, if Trump were assassinated,

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Speaker 4: I think there would be lots of people on Twitter

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Speaker 4: with prominent audiences rejoicing because they believe that anything is

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Speaker 4: on the table for Trump. You know that debate used

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Speaker 4: to see back in the day, you probably should baby

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Speaker 4: Hitler have been killed?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Have you seen that big discussion, Like was the internet meme?

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Speaker 4: Everybody got into the discussion everything else. I do kind

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Speaker 4: of remember this, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: The baby.

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Speaker 4: If you don't know the theme that you know, it's

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Speaker 4: basically like a moral analysis. Hitler is so evil even

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Speaker 4: when he was a baby. Would it have been justified

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Speaker 4: to kill him?

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Speaker 3: Right? To prevent World War two? The Holocaust? All of

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Speaker 3: these different things? Right?

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Speaker 4: This is sort of an intellectual exercise that people have.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are lots of people out there

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Speaker 4: and it's scary that would make the argument that if

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Speaker 4: Trump were assassinated, it would actually be a really great

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Speaker 4: thing for the country. I think people would celebrate some people.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about people with real audiences. I'm not talking

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Speaker 4: that you see on MSNBC and CNN as analyst.

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Speaker 3: I think some of them would celebrate.

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Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania. Just went to Israel. He's going to talk

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Speaker 4: with us about what he saw. Also had a great editorial.

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Speaker 4: I believe it was yesterday in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: Bucks some breaking news. New CNN poll that is out.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we've talked about this so far. It's

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Speaker 4: getting pretty tight in New Hampshire. The new CNN poll

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Speaker 4: has Donald Trump with thirty nine percent support. There, Nicky

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Speaker 4: Hayley with thirty two, Chris Christy with twelve the Aike

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Speaker 4: with eight Ron DeSantis all the way down to five. Now,

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Speaker 4: a USA Today poll has Trump with a nineteen point

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Speaker 4: lead over Nicky Haley, still under fifty percent. But I

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Speaker 4: do think and by the way, Chris Christy has twelve

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Speaker 4: in the USA Today pole, I think this is a

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Speaker 4: question that Chris Christy is going to have to answer.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we need to get him on again and ask

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Speaker 4: him as we get closer to New Hampshire. If Chris

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Speaker 4: Christy truly believes that Trump is the wrong choice, which

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Speaker 4: is basically what his entire campaign has been founded on,

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Speaker 4: doesn't he have to drop out buck and just endorse

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Speaker 4: Nicky Haley if he is so anti Trump, Because I

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Speaker 4: think the idea that Chris Christy could be the nominee

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Speaker 4: is out the window. If he doesn't want it to

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Speaker 4: be Trump. It feels to me like it's long past

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Speaker 4: time for him to decide that he has to endorse someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but some of these people have egos clay, and

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Speaker 2: they like the attention and they like the numbers, and

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Speaker 2: they never think it's time to You know, when was

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Speaker 2: the last time you saw a politician who said, you

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Speaker 2: know what, this will be bad for me? Personally, but

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what's best for the country. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it never happens, but I'm saying it's pretty rare.

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Speaker 2: It's the ideal, but it doesn't happen very often. By

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Speaker 2: the way, I think we have that cut thirty. The

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Speaker 2: reporters joking about the assassination of Trump. They weren't expecting

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Speaker 2: that this was going to be caught on tape. Here

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Speaker 2: they are.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: The worst part is even as the window open and

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Speaker 4: he's hanging out of it, will.

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Speaker 1: Be on the other side.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he's driving, he's got a good ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's driving with the front window over. Yeah. Dam yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If he just pulls up like JAFK, I don't like

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Speaker 2: an jam.

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Speaker 3: Maybe someone's just like they told JAFK, you know what you.

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Speaker 2: Should do, but you should take the convertible.

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Speaker 3: It's so nice out.

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Speaker 4: It's so nice out. Take it convertible, just like JFK.

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Speaker 4: These are reporters joking about Donald Trump being assassinated. Do

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Speaker 4: you doubt me at all that if Trump were assassinated

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Speaker 4: within five minutes, there would be trending on Twitter, A

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Speaker 4: celebration on the left over his murder. I have zero

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Speaker 4: doubt about that. And they're talking about crazy anonymous accounts.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about people that have legitimate followings.

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Speaker 2: There were people who were cheering when nine to eleven

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Speaker 2: happened to us. There were people who were cheering, I

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Speaker 2: mean online and elsewhere when the October seventh attack happened

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Speaker 2: in Israel. I mean, are there are psychopaths who don't,

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Speaker 2: you know, have any moral grounding whatsoever. And so you're

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Speaker 2: asking me in this country, is that a reality just

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Speaker 2: like it is in those other ends. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: And I think that unfortunately this election, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to focus on how ugly it's going to get too much,

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Speaker 2: because we certainly never want to, you know, you don't

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Speaker 2: want to make it a self fulfilling prophecy where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: everyone just being so ugly and we're all just talking

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Speaker 2: about how ugly it is all the time. It's going

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Speaker 2: to get incredibly nasty because Joe Biden is a buffoon

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Speaker 2: and a failure and a loser, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: people's jobs depend on him. A lot of people are

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Speaker 2: emotionally invested in a Democrat winning because they think that

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Speaker 2: they've been really convinced that Trump is the destruction of America.

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Speaker 2: The same kind of people that can be convinced every

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Speaker 2: ten years the climate change is going to, you know,

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Speaker 2: experminate the human species. These people are emotionally unstable, they're

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Speaker 2: easily manipulated, and they vote Democrat. That's all true, and

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Speaker 2: my goodness, so we come back. We'll talk to Dave McCormick,

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Speaker 2: Senate candidate. Pennsylvania a big battleground now