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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. Were there a

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Speaker 2: bunch of executive orders signed by Biden that are invalid

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Speaker 2: and it involves an autopen A lot of discussions to

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Speaker 2: be had about this, but also the transband inside of

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Speaker 2: the Pentagon, the Hohofy's Trump, so many things to dive into.

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Speaker 2: Gabby Kucia is with us once again. She is the

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Speaker 2: Pentagon oaan correspondent and she comes to us now from

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Speaker 2: inside of the studio that she operates in, but not

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Speaker 2: in fact from the Pentagon, but she covers the Pentagon

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Speaker 2: every day. What's good? Do I need to call? Secretary Hegseth?

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Speaker 2: How come you're not set up yet inside the Pentagon?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Correction? I am this is actually the first time, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you're the exclusive. This is the first time that we are.

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Speaker 2: Phis Okay you are yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're in the Pentagon building with Wi Fi as of

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Speaker 1: this week, of which it usually takes at a minimum

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Speaker 1: three months apparently to get any service when you come

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Speaker 1: into the Pentagon. But there's reporters that don't have Internet

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Speaker 1: access that haven't had it for like over a year,

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Speaker 1: just in certain parts of the press core wing so

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Speaker 1: pretty wild. Usually I just run outside and report my

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Speaker 1: news from the outdoors. But we're inside. This is insider. Look,

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Speaker 2: How is the food in the Pentagon. I've never been

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Speaker 2: to the Pentagon, you know, I've I've worked in Langley

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Speaker 2: for years. Never I went to all of White House Congress,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different Intel Intel Agency buildings. Never went

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, Buck, haven't you you know this doesn't the CIA.

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Speaker 1: The CIA always has the best food, the best ye

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Speaker 1: Lot cafeteria. That stuff still stands. But I will say

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon Pentagon slaps when it comes to the food

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Speaker 1: because I worked at the White House, you know, so

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Speaker 1: like I saw the cafeteria, I see the Capitol Hill Cafeteria.

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Speaker 1: Pentagon Cafetia is pretty good. The IA one is definitely

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Speaker 1: still number one. But yeah, they got a courtyard. Actually,

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Speaker 1: funny funny fact about the courtyard. It used to there's

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Speaker 1: but it used to be a hot dog stand and

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Speaker 1: nineties eighties or nineties, Russia was trying to do surveillance

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Speaker 1: then Peagon officials drew a bull's eye on top of

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Speaker 1: the hot dog stands and let Russia know it was

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Speaker 1: in fact a hot dog stand. Anyway, there's that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Langley, we used to I used to get like pressed,

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Speaker 2: fresh pressed panini and with my cappuccino. You know, it

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Speaker 2: they actually had pretty good, pretty good food over there.

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Speaker 2: I hope that internet works, considering that you're at the

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Speaker 2: so hopefully the internet can stay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're moving. They're bumping up, which I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: talked about this already. It's true around nine hundred billion

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Speaker 2: What's the Golden Dome?

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Speaker 1: The Golden Dome, you know, the Golden Dome. It's similar,

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Speaker 1: And you know with the Iron Dome, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: So hopefully you are something of an autopen expert and

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Speaker 2: that there's a very good chance that the autopen was

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, so, Yeah, I worked at the Executive Clerk's office.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the oldest office of the executive branch

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Speaker 1: So and before I even worked there, when I was

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Speaker 1: all four years. When you look at those signatures, that

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Speaker 1: autopen will reflect any changes. The autopen was never changed.

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Speaker 1: And the signature of Joe Biden, the alleged signature, right,

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Speaker 1: the authentic one, never changed either. Majority of those executive

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure being at the CIA right like you

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Speaker 1: clerks answer to directly. They are given in this email

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Speaker 1: I would just say every ounce of anything that President

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Speaker 1: So it's all there, and if you wanted to even

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Speaker 2: That was the deepest dive on autopen I have ever

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. We let's talk here in a

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Speaker 2: second about It's basically a lot of Biden executive orders

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Speaker 2: if that can ever be proven. I'll talk about Trump

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Speaker 2: getting a win over the hoofies in a second year.

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Speaker 2: But our sponsor's paradigm press. Have you heard about America's

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty trillion dollars a secret trust fund?

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Speaker 2: A former presidential advisor, Jim Rickards, just released an explosive

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Speaker 2: it out at birthright twenty twenty five dot com. That's

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Speaker 2: birthright twenty twenty five dot com. So uh, Trump said

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Speaker 2: that the Hoothies are gonna stop attacking ships. What can

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that came to a surprise from everybody

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