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Speaker 1: I am your host, Rashan McDonald. I recognize that we

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a true young rising star in

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Speaker 1: an accomplished singer, dancer, and actor. He first came on

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Speaker 1: was one of many movies he has been seen in,

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Speaker 1: such as Collateral, Beauty Detroit, Crystal Candy Jaw, Box Office

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Speaker 1: Hits and Clue, Ride Alone and The Major Runner. Now

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Speaker 1: of Showtime's original series, the shot where he plays the

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Speaker 1: character Emmit Washington. Please welcome to money making conversation, Jacob,

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Speaker 1: A lotta more, Jacob, What I was saying your name? Man?

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Speaker 1: I had to started laughing, Man because that character Man, Man,

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Speaker 1: But as a as the beauty of that character, the

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Speaker 1: frustration of your mom. But let's talk about your career, man,

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Speaker 1: because you've been in the game. You're young guy, and

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Speaker 1: you talk about how you got started? Jacob? Yeah? Well, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, music random you know, runs in my family.

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Speaker 1: My dad of my uncle's uh you know, seeing gospel

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Speaker 1: right in front the tiff place. Your girlfriend and was

427
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: the mother of your child? What are your children? I knew.

428
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: I knew once we shot that it was gonna go crazy.

429
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, it seems about to go. Wow. Um,

430
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: what's so dumb about the shots that I'm able to

431
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: dive into keep diving into a character every year, like

432
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, with Slider, like other films I've done, I

433
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: only had one opportunity, you know, but with Shot, with

434
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: the shots, just keep every year I find new ways

435
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: to be Immit, you know, and bring out you know

436
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: his personality is swag and and dig deeper into you

437
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: know who Emmitt was, you know who he is now.

438
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: So it's just, um, it's really fun. It's really fun.

439
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: It's a lot of funks. It's a lot of fun, Jacob,

440
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: because you know, like, you have this is acting, man,

441
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: this is a gift that you have she you have this.

442
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a kid getting coach sticking a

443
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: hand in the cookie jaw. Look that you have, you know, like,

444
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: what's wrong, what's wrong, what's the problem, what's the problem,

445
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: that's what your problem looked at. You have mastered it

446
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: is what makes your character work for me, because you

447
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: keep getting into trouble after trouble after trouble, and it's

448
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: all like it's always like with your hands out, what's wrong,

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: what's the problem, what's wrong? Right? Right? Exactly. Yeah, It's

450
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: just it's so fun to play, to play him. I

451
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: feel like it wasn't until I played the show where

452
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: I feel like I unpacked it. Uh people on a

453
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: different level. I think, I think I've I've played some

454
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: really incredible roads. But the show has really made a

455
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: stamp on the culture. Like when I walked down the street,

456
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: people don't even call me Jacob. They called me Immage,

457
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: called me. Yeah, I was there. I was in Cleveland

458
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: not too long ago, I said, getting some education on

459
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Speaker 1: some stuff. And then like I would stop at the

460
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: gas station or stop at the restaurant, and they'd be

461
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, you know, like it's just when you

462
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: when you know, when you know Jacob. Let's be real

463
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: now you know that in the character is a highly

464
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: sex charge character. So I'm sure people look at you

465
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: from a ladies percilating from a different angle now. No,

466
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: it's definitely been different. I think I even think a

467
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: lot of people just now realizing that is Jacob, which

468
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: is who is me? I'm just like, and I just

469
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: realized Jacob. I'm seeing a lot of these twos now.

470
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm just realizing Jacob Lottimore is playing in it on

471
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: the show. I've been watching this show for two seasons.

472
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was Jacob, and I was just like,

473
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I must be really in it then, because well,

474
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: you know the things about here stuff, it's the interesting

475
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: about our relationship, you know, like what I've been don't

476
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: my make convintation a couple of years and when the

477
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Speaker 1: show came on the Shy, you know, they was just

478
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: there was totally you know, let's get Jacob on your show.

479
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: Just get him on your shows. You can interview him.

480
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: And I'm glad I waited or we just couldn't connect,

481
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: because talking about your character now is a really great opportunity.

482
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: Because the beginning of the first of all this season,

483
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: they brought on some great additional cast members. My boy

484
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: Luke James, Oh my god, what he's doing in that

485
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: character Candy Burrows. Wow, she's nailing it, nailing and then

486
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Little Real you know, playing the character Zeke subringing comedy.

487
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: But you know how he does it. He can play

488
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: serious but actually so funny that it comes across like

489
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: a joke every time he opens is doing and so

490
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Speaker 1: And that's that's what you're saying. When you when you

491
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: got the chance to play against Will Smith, you know,

492
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: Angela Bassett, you bring on all these additional talent. It

493
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Speaker 1: causes you as a talent to step up your game

494
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: as well. Correct, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I think you know,

495
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Sabedia having a great cash you know, we are can

496
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: help out each other and uh motivate each other to

497
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: do to do better and it makes a great show.

498
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: And you know, as long as the chemistry is amazing, um,

499
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: we can always we can always make a scene work,

500
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Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's been it's been a blessing

501
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: because let's at the stage way yet with the character

502
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: brought in Lala Anthony. She's your supposed to the business partner,

503
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: but we found out last night you're a little bit

504
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: more than your business partner, sir. And then you have Tiff.

505
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: You are living at the home with your mom on

506
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: the sofa. You know, Tiff sALS. She kind of hasn't

507
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: got a license yet, but she kind of sells weed.

508
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: That's the way she brings money into the household. And

509
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: so did you have these other characters that are out there? Keysha?

510
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: She was, she was being held captive by this crazy

511
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: guy in the basement of his home. You have Runnie

512
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: out there trying to redeem himselves. But the season opened

513
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: this year which you are in tears, which I thought

514
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a amazing moment when I see an actor able

515
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: to deliver an emotional like that, tell us how you

516
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: you know? Because you will? That was the That was

517
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Speaker 1: the that was the funeral moment of the open scene

518
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: of the season. How did you get the emotionally to

519
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: deliver that type of moment in the opening the premier

520
00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: season of the third season premiere episode of the third season. UM, honestly,

521
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm a crier anyway, you know if I feel like

522
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: because I'm a crying too, I'm a cry. Yeah, yeah,

523
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: like I cry. I'm like, yeah, it's time to cry.

524
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I'll be back, you know. Um, I think for me,

525
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I have just lost a cousin earlier. That year and

526
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: so I was it wasn't too long ago that I was,

527
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, at the funeral, and uh it just kind

528
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: of hit home, you know, for for me and my

529
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: personal life. Um, and just I think the energy of

530
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: a funeral or the energy of the casket, Uh, it's

531
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Speaker 1: just it's strong, you know, without just being there, which

532
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: alone was just Uh, I've never been a pall better

533
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: before carrying the casket to the to the to the

534
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: car before. I just I've never I've never been in

535
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: that position, so uh to feel that weight of the

536
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: the casket, to be that close was just it just

537
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: felt awesome real, to be honest, and uh, I just

538
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: let it flow. I let it flow. And I think,

539
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, the directors like, let's just let's film, let's

540
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: get it and get it there there in it so

541
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: and everybody had tears. You know, a lot of changes

542
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: were made. I think that was just that was kind

543
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of sad too, to be honest. I was just like, man,

544
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, um, it's just so much, so much change,

545
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: and uh it just felt so real. But it felt

546
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: like we were all growing to at the same time.

547
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: So um, that's how I tapped in that it played

548
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: a major role for me as far as this whole

549
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: series when I you know the name of the show

550
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: with money making conversations, and I always bring people on

551
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: to talk about how they run their business or how

552
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: they plan their business. And when I look at your

553
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: character in it, you know catering. You you did the

554
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: opening catering and yeah, you know, you got everybody to

555
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: bring from different stores and they wind up ordering pizza

556
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: at the wedding, and so you make as a young

557
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: startup business. If I had to use you as an

558
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: example on my show, you make all the stakes. Your character,

559
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: em it makes all the mistakes. Is he ever gonna

560
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: get it right? Or that's revealing too much of the

561
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: upcoming episodes. You know what I always learned just in

562
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: business WR rate of failing WR radar failure because in

563
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: the end, you're gonna know, You're donna know all the

564
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: mistakes you made, You're gonna be successful. So I think that,

565
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: like im it is really human right now, I feel

566
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: like he's like business wise, I feel like he's I

567
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: feel like that's the only area he's really grown in

568
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: to be honest, Like absolutely, That's what I'm excited about it, Jacob,

569
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: that character because I'm rooting for it. But then when

570
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: you had the moment with Dom that just like come on,

571
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: I please, right, But I think like for that that

572
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: it's like that's a separate thing, right. I feel like

573
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe he hasn't really developed into maybe you know, want

574
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: a man, responsible man, Yeah, responsible man in a relationship.

575
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: But I feel like when it comes to when it

576
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: comes to business, I feel like he's wrapping his head

577
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: around how business goes, how how to market, how to

578
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: brand something, how to put pieces together, how to be

579
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: a leader. Um, you know, if he doesn't know how

580
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: to cook, okay, I'm gonna find a chef and I'm

581
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna run a cash register, I'm gonna you know, uh,

582
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, oversee things. So I think he's growing in

583
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: that area. But obviously women is just I think it's

584
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: good always going to be a child, a weakness for

585
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: this young brother that I was hit in the chest

586
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and say, come on, Emmett, step up, step your game up,

587
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: get it right now. Earlier in that conversation, you said

588
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: that it was really important that this particular show about

589
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: Chicago got it right because the shows, hey, you know,

590
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: black people complained that wasn't us. You know, it's a

591
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: poor portrayal. What do you feel the shot which is

592
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: on Showtime every Sunday night at nine p m. Eastern,

593
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: What are you guys doing right on that show, Jacob?

594
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: That makes me excited, I can tell you. But again,

595
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, as an as an actor, as a

596
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: guy who's in the streets. People are responding to your

597
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: care after So well, what are you guys doing right

598
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: about the characterization of Chicago? And this I think just

599
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: touching on real issues, uh, you know, missing young women, um,

600
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: gang activity. Um. I think that you know, we're also

601
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: just touching on just real human beings, are real relatable

602
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: situations that not only just maybe go on in Chicago, um,

603
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: but like maybe that go on the other hoods of

604
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: the country, you know what I mean. So I think

605
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: that it's finding a way to relate to Chicago, but

606
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: it's also finally relate to relate to them the whole world,

607
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, it's just the language is right.

608
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I think the lineage is so tapped into you know,

609
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: the media and what's really going on in the streets. So, um,

610
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you know that, and that's good to happen. A lot

611
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: of the writers are from Chicago. That's awesome. Well, I'm

612
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: telling I want to take care. I want to thank

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00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you for taking the time to come on Money Making Conversation.

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Jacob, I'm a fan and

615
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: any product, when you're sawing, when you drop your song,

616
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: or you're doing anything out there other than the shot,

617
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: please come on the show. I will promote it. I

618
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: got a nice social media following over a million newsletter

619
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: over ninety thousand fan club members. I do want to

620
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: bring on the show. Introduce you to my fans and

621
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: let them know how real you are. And keep winning,

622
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: my man, keep winning. Thank you. I appreciate you here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye bye. If you want to hear more episodes,

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Speaker 1: any episodes of Money Making Conversation, please go to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. I'm your host.

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