WEBVTT - “I’ve Had Difficult Conversations” Patriots’ Head Coach Breaks Silence on Photo Controversy 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:02.759 Heay of folks. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:05.720 It is Tuesday, April twenty first, and he has finally 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.800 spoken to the New England Patriots head coach Mike Rabel. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:10.440 Has just made his first. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:16.799 Comments since that firestorm, since that tabloid story exploded with 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.479 pictures of him and an NFL reporter who was not 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:22.799 his wife being with that. Welcome to this episode of 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.720 Amy and TJ. Folks know this story by now. Robes, 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.920 Diana Rossini is a person he was seen when pictures 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.000 with She has since resigned from the Athletic, but everybody 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.279 was waiting to hear from him. We just heard from 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.720 him at a press conference, made comments with about three minutes. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.239 I am particular. Robes asked, you don't tell me When 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.600 I said, what did you think of what you just 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.680 heard from him? And I actually don't know your answer, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.720 just your impression first of all, of what he said. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.920 I just think that it is a glaring example of 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.600 a double standard where look, I understand they were in 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:01.120 different roles, that Diana Rossini was a porter, a journalist 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.319 working for a very reputable sports organization, the Athletic, which 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.440 is owned by the New York Times, and there are 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.920 ways of operating and she it seems at least had 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.080 the appearance of violating those standards, and so she resigned. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.360 Mike Rabel is not being investigated. No one is looking 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.520 into any misconduct. We don't know what's going on in 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.440 his personal life. But it seemed as though all he 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.200 had to deal with was his personal stuff and that 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:32.520 is what he acknowledged without giving any specifics, and apologize 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.440 for any distractions and moved on and went about his 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.759 business of being the head coach of the New England Patriots, 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.520 end of story. It's almost as if I saw him 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.880 just kind of go, yep, let me just acknowledge this 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.200 and then move on. And look, maybe that's fair given 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.360 each of their positions, but it doesn't seem like it is. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.400 I don't think she should have resigned, is where I'll start. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.560 So to your point about a double standard, that's fine. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.240 I don't see it as a double standard as a 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.240 man woman and people will see it as a double 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.360 standard that I do understand. The double standard could be 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.120 argued having to do with her and how other male 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.160 journalists behave. It shouldn't be a comparison, in my opinion, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.680 between her as a journalist compared with him as a coach. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:20.079 They got guys with criminal records playing football every damn Sunday. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.680 Don't tell me this now. It makes them look bad. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:28.240 He brought a bad reputation onto the team, which he acknowledged, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.840 and we're gonna let you hear him. We're going to 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.400 play it for you here in a moment. But for me, Ropes, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.680 he didn't. I never saw this as a double standard 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.680 that some talked about between him and her. The double 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.360 standard is her and every other possible journalist, which is 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.720 overwhelmingly male dominated in the sports field where she works, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:53.200 don't have a direct comparison with anybody else's situation. But he, yes, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.320 they are held to a different standard in the NFL. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.200 Look, and I get that, and I acknowledge that, and 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.160 I hear what you're saying. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:00.600 The fairer compare would be. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.320 Comparing Diana Rossini with her male counterpart makes total sense. 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:09.239 It's just it's overwhelming the difference between the two in 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.400 terms of what the professional repercussions were. And I'm sure 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.640 she knew that going into it, and he knows that 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.000 going into it. She, of all people who covers sports 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.440 and covers the NFL, understands that there is a much 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.760 different standard in play than there is for someone who 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.919 is an operating journalist. That I totally acknowledge that, but 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.000 still it just seems it just seems unfair. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.240 Oh, I thought it was unfair that she lost her job. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.880 I am saying, none of this is any of our business. Now, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.040 it's okay to speak on it now, in my opinion, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.560 because they did both address it. They did both say something. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.280 She put on a long letter resigning, so that brought 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.040 it up to a level where it was a different story. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.160 But rhaps other than that, I don't know what's going on. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.320 Is his house in her house, with their marriages, with 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.280 their backgrounds, with their understand I don't know. I don't 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.600 look at any of this in the pictures that I 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:07.000 saw robes, And yes, we have some experience, if you will, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.280 not just our personal but seeing other people's stories robes 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.520 and how they've been handling people, jumping to conclusions and 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.960 not understanding. Yes, these two could be up to know whatever. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:16.279 Good. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.800 That's not for me to say. It's for her husband 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.400 and his wife and coach and the reporter. It's their thing. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.359 So now this next thing has happened in robes. The 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.040 one thing that did not come out come out of 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.440 his mouth was I'm sorry. The thing that didn't come 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.520 out of his mouth is I apologize. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.159 And he also didn't make any acknowledgments either way. He 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:43.880 didn't deny any untoward relationship. He didn't deny anything improper 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:50.040 happening between him and Diana Rossini. He thanked reporters who 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.880 had gathered there for their patients in waiting for him 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:55.520 to make any sort of remarks. But I'm curious what 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.080 you think about the difference between his initial statement when 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.360 the pictures prefer revealed, where he basically said, I don't 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.279 need to make another statement, this is laughable, to where 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:12.080 he was today thanking journalists for their patients and acknowledging 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.480 that he's had difficult conversations with his family. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.680 Those two things don't obviously line up. We can jump 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.080 to any conclusion we want, but those things are laid 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.200 out and clear. If he was not involved in not 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.840 doing anything wrong, he would have said that in the 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.880 first statement. He would have said in this one, guys, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.200 I know this looked bad, but let me tell you 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.400 what happened and what was going on and the reason 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.800 we were this, and knock yourself out. He didn't do that. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.720 He chose not to what he has done. Now Rose 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.640 is left as in a position to where I said, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.400 I'll almost say about it next question, for all for 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.600 all time. This is done because he said, I talked 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.760 to the people who are important to talk to, my team, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.120 my coaches, my organization. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.640 And look, you're somebody who knows how the sports world operates, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.160 probably more than I do, just because you're immersed in 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.640 it in a way I haven't been. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.039 Did he need to even say anything? Did he even 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.760 go further than. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.239 He had to? No? 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.440 He Maybe I would argue you should have gone a 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.320 little further, but I would say he did what he 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.200 needed to do, and the reason he had to do it, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:14.200 Robes is the damn NFL Draft is on Thursday. And 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.200 if folks you don't, yes you hear about the draft, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.160 you see it's a big TV event, Robes, this is 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.520 the most important time other than the super Bowl for 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:23.040 the NFL. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.800 It's that big of a deal. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.640 They are forming their teams that are going to carry 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.440 them to the next super Bowl in two years, five years. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.279 You are building your franchise. It's an event. It's a 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.960 three day event. They do it in Pittsburgh Now Robes, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.960 it is a cute show. You cannot have this be 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.440 top of mind and everybody waiting to chase him around, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.560 or his players around, or the owner around to ask 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.359 about Rabel. So he had to say something, and he 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.080 had to do it like this. But what he's essentially 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.359 done in Robes to say shut up? I said all 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.680 I'm to say, and I've already what he told you, 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:01.680 so don't waste your time. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.800 So that's my next question. Does this stop reporters? I 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.840 don't know what the level of decorum is among reporters. Yes, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.240 and this head coach, this storied winning head coach, will 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:14.560 they respect his request? 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:15.000 Yes? 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.920 Wow, they want access for the entire season. They're gonna 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.840 be good, They're gonna go to the playoffs. You need 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.400 a good relationship not just with the coach, with the players, 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.720 with the organization. Don't piss them off. You're gonna lose 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.360 your access. Now sixty minutes sits down with them. All 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.560 bets are off. But in his day to day and 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.120 the folks that are in that room, I can't imagine 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.200 who's gonna take him to task for this. And as 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.920 a pr person standing by going next question, they did. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.240 This was Azy Fudd the other day, the number one 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.080 draft pick of the Yukon. One of the reporters asked 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.560 her about her relationship with Paige Becker's The two were 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.720 dating at Yukon. Page is now working or playing for 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.880 the team that Azy just got recruited, just got drafted to. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.160 Asked her a question about her relationship. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.800 Reporter or excuse me, The PR person jumped in, no, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.040 you have to ask that, but we're gonna shut this down. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.360 You're not allowed. They can tell you to shut up. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.000 We are not gonna allow you to ask our athlete, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.800 our coach anything. This is done for him. Wow, bros, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.160 it's done. It's over. Said what I'm gonna say Now. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.240 I don't know what's going on at his house, but 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.520 this is what's going on. At least this is what 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.120 he told us. So I'm gonna set this up. Robes, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.040 you heard this as well. The part we're gonna let 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.880 you here, folks, we're gonna play. It's about a minute long. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.080 But he talked initially just saying, hey, I addressed my 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.280 players yesterday. I talked to them. I got ahead of them. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.560 I didn't want them to have to come out here 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.000 and answer questions blah blahlah blah, and so we pick 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.880 it up robes where you could tell he was about 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.200 to transition to the difficult stuff. So at the beginning 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.840 of this sound by you hear him take a very 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.079 big sigh. So that's what you're gonna hear. But this 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.000 is coach Mike Rabol making his first comments since this 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.240 whole thing went down. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.319 Team. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:09:00.400 With that being said, you know, I've had some differicult 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.160 conversations with people that I care about, with my family, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:09.000 the organization, the coaches, the players, those have been positive 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.760 and productive. We believe in order to be successful on 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.440 and off the field, you have to make good decisions. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.320 That includes me. That starts with me. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.800 We never want our actions to negatively affect affect the team. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.120 We never want to be the cause of a distraction, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.520 you know. And what I know those are comments and 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.200 questions that I've answered for the team and with the team. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:37.679 Will keep those private, and you know, to ourselves care 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.120 deeply about this football team and I'm excited to coach them. 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.560 I also know that I'm going to attack each day 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.640 with humility and focus. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.480 And what I can promise you is that my family, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.360 this organization the team, the staff, the coaches, everybody are 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.679 fans most importantly, will get the best version of me 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:00.400 going forward. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.719 You notice he said family is well going to get 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.400 the best version of me going forward. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.720 The best version of me going forward. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.800 I'm curious by him saying that you have to be 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.360 or in order to be successful on the field, you 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.320 have to make good decisions on and off the field. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.199 Was that his way of acknowledging he made a bad decision. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:23.040 Sorry, you combine that with the best version of me. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.679 That's what people say after they mess up. That's what 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.800 people say after they get caught and they say I'm sorry, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.439 and then they say, but moving forward. I mean, people 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.280 have done this in relationships when they screw up. I'm sorry, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.960 But moving forward, you're going to get the best for pros. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.480 That is as close as he's getting to admitting that 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:41.400 he did wrong. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:43.679 Those without saying he's sorry. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.000 Out saying it. That's as close as he's going to get. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.160 That's the best you're going to get from Mike Vabel. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.959 Everybody's moving on. I will be surprised if you hear 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.480 any leaks coming out of that locker room about this 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.240 is what he said, and this is what we thought, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.080 and this is what the team. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:58.600 I would be surprised to even to hear that. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.440 That was my next question to you, because again, you 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.480 know sports culture in a way I do not. You 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.160 know locker rooms in a way I do not. That 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.560 just seems unthinkable to me. I can't think of another 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.800 organization where you would have something potentially this scandalous and 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.800 you have the goods, you have the information, you know 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.959 what he said, you know what he didn't say, and 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.679 you don't tell anyone because with any of these players 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.839 even told their girlfriend or their wives, and they told 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:24.319 their friend. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.080 This is how things get out. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.839 This is not a newsroom. I would be really surprised 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.839 if we get some big headline. Everybody's after it right now, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.640 TMZ and the like. Everybody's trying to get some little nugget, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.840 little detail to have some headline. I would be surprised. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.679 But stay here with us, folks. Yes, we're finally doing 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.840 a whole episode Robes. We've done a couple of episodes 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.760 on this. This is the most we've talked about Coach 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.520 rabel in any of them. We've been talking about Diana Russini, 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.360 the reporter involved, and also another young lady who has 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.720 also now lost her job. Stay here, we'll remind you 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:13.280 of the other fallout in this story. All right, we 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.560 continue here on Amy and TJ Robes. I isn't it. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.400 We've said this. We did one of these episodes and 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.040 at the end of it, I mean we did twenty 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.400 twenty five minutes, and in the twenty second minute we 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.240 looked at each other and. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.840 Said, how we even mentioned coach raybel. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.440 Yeah, and so I guess that's my point. When you 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.280 hear him just kind of and I don't want to 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.400 say flippantly, but it wasn't an apology tour. It didn't 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.120 seem as if he were. He didn't seem like he 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.000 was in pain or that he had any sort of remorse. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.960 He just was matter of factly like, yep, talk to 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.800 my friends and family and my players. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.800 We're done here, moving on, you'll get the best version 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.480 of me. Next question. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.880 Meantime, you have two women who've lost their jobs amidst 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:57.520 this scandal. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.120 One of them voluntarily resigned, the other got fired. Chrissy 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.679 Freud I believe is her name, USA today a sports 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.120 reporter who put up what's the best uh, what's the 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.719 best way to describe the the tweet she put out, right, you. 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.640 Had a girl to me, she kicked her when Diana 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.920 Rossini was down, kind of saying, yeah, we knew this 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.440 about you all along. Don't let the door hit you 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.199 on in the ass on your way out, just basically 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.080 cheering celebrating the fact that Rassini resigned. She claimed, Oh, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.200 you just resigned because you were about to be fired, 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.720 so just took an opportunity to take a low blow 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.160 and a mean shot at her publicly, and then she 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.520 ended up losing her job. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.680 In doing so. Hey, Ann, that was that one was 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.439 just I don't mind her being fired at all. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.720 That one, that one I actually do not mind at 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:43.839 all because she didn't. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.120 Need to jump in, she didn't need to say anything. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.760 No good came out of what she put out in 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.560 the world. We've always said this, and we all have 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.400 to be reminded, but look it. If you aren't serving 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.880 a greater good, if you aren't whatever information you're putting out, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.880 if it if it isn't helpful, if it isn't enlightening, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.000 why put it out in the world. If it's just 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.600 to be mean, And that's all that was. There was 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.760 no value in what she said, that's. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:11.959 A tough one. I don't know. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.959 I hate to root for support somebody. I would never 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.520 support somebody being fired, if you will, But man, a 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.920 suspension would have been Okay, that was just awful. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.240 That was me all right. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.040 Back to Rassini here, we don't know where she is 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.200 going to be. She's kind of gone quiet since that 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.840 letter ropes, that Resonation Nation letter that she put out. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.800 I have one last question. I didn't think about it 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.880 until you said something about the double standard. What would 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.720 your thought of Rabel have been had been if same 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.480 pictures came out, but instead of it being Diana Russini, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.320 it was a woman nobody knew. It was a Rando, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.680 just some random woman nobody knew. And she goes about 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.000 her business, goes by, we never find out publicly who 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.760 she is, she never loses a job, goes out about 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.960 her life. Would you have felt so strongly about Rabel 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.240 needing some kind of disciplinary action for being caught in 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.600 that compromising position? 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.800 You know, that's a really interesting question, and the answer 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:12.320 is no. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.400 The answer is no, because. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.480 I do believe there should be anyone who is in 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 a public position or and is in an influential position 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.000 still deserves to have a private life, and I still 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.160 think people are humans and they make choices that might 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.880 not bode well for their marriage or for their relationship, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:39.320 but it shouldn't necessarily impact their professional life. However, I 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.080 do think in this particular instance, just as much as 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.240 she could be faulted for having some sort of access 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.400 or some sort of inappropriate relationship that could have impacted 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.320 her credibility as a journalist, which I totally get, he 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.840 too could be held to a standard where he could 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.680 be getting favorable coverage. He could be getting some sort 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.760 of benefit from having this relationship as well that at 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.800 least could be looked into. But I see your face, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.000 and I understand, and you've pointed this out many many times, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.440 and I get it. The things that the players on 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.240 his team and lots of other teams have been accused of, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.440 charged with convicted of it pales in comparison to these pictures. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:20.720 I get it. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:27.320 I was the idea that he is benefiting professionally, that 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.280 having an affair helped him go fourteen and three and 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.680 make it to the super Bowl. There is I keep 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.080 going back to that standard, And yeah, there is a 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.400 standard for journalist behavior that she had to adhere to. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.960 There's a standard for coach and NFL behavior that he 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.600 is supposed to adhere to. This one does not rise 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.760 to the level, at least from the NFL of something 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.320 that deserves not just doesn't deserve disciplinary action, it doesn't 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.560 even deserve an investigation. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:57.400 They're not even looking. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.160 They're not investigating. There's look in they said, Yep, pretty 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.600 much that I I do. I totally understand it when 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.840 you look deeper into the organizations that each person worked for, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.080 why there was a different outcome. And again she did 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:17.960 choose to resign, but she wasn't fired. However, it I 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:22.920 think not to not to give Chrissy uh what's her 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:28.280 freud any sort of support. I do think it's probably 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.480 likely she was probably pointing out something that is something 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.359 many would have thought that just the pictures alone would 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.480 probably have ended with her being asked to leave just 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.200 because there was I think it's hard to argue that 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.840 that wasn't improper, that that didn't look improper, even if 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:53.320 it had the possibility being interpreted as improper. She he 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.720 was somebody who she was supposed to have a only 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:57.880 professional relationship. 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.159 Job policy, to your point, doesn't say You can't just 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.119 can't have a relationship with somebody you're covering. You have 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.159 to avoid the appearance even of a relationship or a 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.600 conflict of interests. You're supposed to avoid it. Even looking like. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.760 That pool side in a bikini with him. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:14.800 That's gonna look like. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:15.640 It's not a good look. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:16.960 You know what that's gonna look like. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.679 Now, if it was all good, she could have gone 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.560 in You and I will have loved an opportunity to 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.040 sit down and say, yeah, guys, this is all that's happening, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.840 this is what it was, this is why it looks 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.359 like that, this is really what's happening. She had that opportunity, okay, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.200 to avoid a you know what, even if she had 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.480 been in a more public place, right then you say 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:44.040 this was some private, kind of exclusive, romantic place. Romantic 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.800 if she had been at a Disney World resort at 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.840 a pool with him and tons of people around, I 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.640 was gone. Obviously she's not trying to sneak around. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.600 Correct, That would have looked different as well. Yes, And 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.840 to your point, we would have loved. We even talked 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.760 about who could sit down to do the interview with 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.560 us so that we can really just put it all 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:01.040 out there. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:02.960 I'm also just curious what you think. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.040 You may laugh at this, but I would have, and 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.880 he doesn't care what I think. And maybe he doesn't 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.399 care what a lot of people think because he just 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.160 does his job well and that's good enough. But if 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.719 Mike Rabel had come out and said, I behaved badly, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.000 I cheated on my wife. I feel terrible about it. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.280 I'm making amends with her. This is not something that 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.040 the public needs to dissect or have a conversation about 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.040 because I'm handling it privately. Just know that I am 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.439 deeply regretful for my choices, and I'm repairing that with 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:33.959 my wife. 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.520 With that, I would have been like, wow, damn. I 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:37.480 would have been impressed. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.800 But that probably is hilarious to even imagine somebody would 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.280 be willing to do that if they didn't have to. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.000 Somebody has to do that if they're working in an 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:51.639 industry where you need the public's support for you to 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.600 continue to work in that industry. He doesn't need a 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:01.000 damn thing but to win football games. He just came 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.840 out of the Super Bowl. If they were three and 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:08.280 thirteen last year, maybe we're having a different conversation robes 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.560 they were plays away from being Super Bowl champion. So 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.879 I'm saying to you, he doesn't have to do that. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.719