1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: dot Ryan Warmley, joined by Scott Bogman and by Pat 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: fitz Morris. We are talking some must have dynasty targets. 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: You can think of this through the lens of trade talks. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: You can think of this through the lens of startup drafts. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: However you want to look at this, Guys that we 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: are targeting in all sorts of leagues wherever we are 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: in the life cycle of those dynasty leagues. Quick reminder 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: for everybody that all of our twenty twenty six consensus 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros dot com 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: slash rankings. You can navigate to our dynasty rankings from 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: there as well. Guys, we got five names from each 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: of you. I say, let's just dive right in here. 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Fitz will start with you. Who do you have? 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: It's Bucky Irving and I know everyone is running away 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: from Bucky right now. I feel like I should take 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Todd Bowles out for dinner a few beers something, because 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Todd Bowles, with his quote is curious wording choice. When 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: he said that Irving would be back on the field 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: from his shoulder injury sometime in the summer or fall, 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: and just the on. 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Earth, though, what do you mean on Earth? 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: On Earth? Like he will be on this planet, So 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: that's good. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Just be more vague, Yeah, exactly. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I mean a shoulder injury. Irving does not 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: have to play tackle football next week, and by the 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: time training camp arrives, he'll have had about five months 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: from when he had the surgery. 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: So I'm not worried about that at all. 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: And I know we had a disappointing season last year 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: was partly injury related. Not only his injuries, but the 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: offensive line for the Buccaneers was really banged up, and 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: we saw them slip in the run blocking metric adjusted lineyards. 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: They plummeted like they were really high up in the 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. I think they were fourth and 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and twenty second in twenty twenty five. 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: Excuse me. 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: They were second in adjusted line yards in twenty twenty four, 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: twenty second and twenty twenty five. 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: So I think that had something to. 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Do with why Bucky's breakaway run rate went from thirty 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: four point nine percent as a rookie to thirteen point 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: four percent last year. 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Why He went from only three point. 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Four yards per carry last year after averaging five point 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: four in his rookie year, and in his rookie year 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: three point nine three yards after contact per attempt, and 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: last year only two point three three yards after contact 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: per attempt. So big dropping all the run stats. But 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: man like this is not going to be the committee. 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm convinced that everyone thinks it will be. I just 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: think Kenneth Gainwell is a one for one replacement for 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: Rashad White, who Bucky basically kicked to the curb in 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: late in twenty twenty four and held off last year. 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: Even in Bucky's bad year, last year, he averaged twenty 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: point three touches per game. That is workhorse duty by 58 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: modern standards. And Gainwall is a better pass blocker than 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Bucky admittedly, but like Gainwell is not even. 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: A better pass catcher than Bucky. 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: For his career in the NFL, Bucky has averaged one 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: point five two yards per route run, Gainwell one point 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: one nine, and in his best college season, Bucky had 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: more catches than Gainwell in his best college season at 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: a better school that played tougher competition. So I just 66 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that This is sort of the uh 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: dire setup that people are seeing as far as Bucky's workload, 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: as far as the recovery from injury. If people want 69 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: to fade him by all means fade him, I'm buying 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: bog mean. 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Fitz and I talked about this a little on a 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Dynasty live stream we did on the YouTube channel earlier 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: this week. I hope everybody checks us out kind of 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: moving forward or trying to do more of than they're 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: really fun, just to kind of takeing everybody's questions stuff 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: like that. We talked about Bucky. He's RB seventeen in 77 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: the Dynasty Trade Value chart. That's also where he is 78 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: in the Expert consensus rankings. It's interesting that if you 79 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: look last year, you know, the four games before he 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: missed several weeks in a row, he was and this 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: is in PPR scoring, which most Dynasty leagues are, he 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: was RB fifteen, RB eleven, RB fifteen, RB nine, and 83 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: then his first two games after coming back in weeks 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: thirteen and fourteen, he was RB fifteen and RB thirteen. 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: So the first six games he played last season, he 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: was RB fifteen or better every week, and again he's 87 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: being ranked outside of the top fifteen right now, both 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: in terms of our internal trade value chart and the 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: expert consensus rankings from across the industry. So I say 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: all that to say, like, I'm somebody who has like 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: somewhat faded Bucky like relative to cost, like particularly going 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: into last year. But where he is right now as 93 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: a mid RB two, I know he's somebody you've liked 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: in the past, Bogman that feels like a value. 95 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have him at I think thirteen 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: right now, but I have him in a tier between 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: nine and sixteen, so I can't get him all the 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: way down to where he is in the current ECRs. 99 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: So I understand. I think I'm with fits in this, 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: like if you want to if you want to sink 101 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: Bucky because you think he's injury prone, right, his shoulder 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: injury happened last year. He also had you know, the uh, 103 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: the depression stuff last year. Like if these things make 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: you afraid of Bucky, then by all means, like FITZI said, 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: go ahead and fade him for those reasons, I understand that. 106 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: But the production when he came back and weren't in particular, 107 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: I remember being kind of out on Bucky returning last 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: year because I was like, well, they have decent backups here. 109 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 4: Sean Tucker's been getting these carries by the goal line. 110 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: They sall wit right, like, they have decent backups. They're 111 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: probably gonna ease him in. They didn't. They threw him 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 4: right to the Wolves. So I think Gainwell is brought 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: here kind of as an injury insurance, right, Like, I 114 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: feel like that's why he's the same type of player 115 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: that Bucky is. So call him Timu, Bucky or whatever. 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: Anything happens to him. Then we have Kenneth Gainwell right 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 4: behind him, so we don't really miss a beat. So yeah, 118 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: I think this is a good time, particularly now when 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: they're being vagab the injury. He's coming off a down 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: year because of injuries that people are fading him. This 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: is the perfect time to buy. So I like this 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: call out in particular because it is a great time 123 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: to buy Bucky because he's at what is probably going 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: to be. 125 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: A cheek I just piggyback on two things bog said. 126 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Number one about like the idea Gainwell is going to 127 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: challenge Bucky. Last year, Gainwell averaged six point seven rushing 128 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: attempts per game, that was a career high, and like 129 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: he got what twenty plus in that game that Jalen 130 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: Warren was kind of an eight scratch for. 131 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm. 132 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: Dubious about the possibility that he carves out a major 133 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: chunk of the rushing load. And as far as that 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: depression thing, I believe Bucky said the source of his 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: depression was being hurt and you know, for the first time, 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: not really being able to play football and felt like 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: he was letting his team down and everything, so like 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: kind of put him in a dark place. 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and that can manifest itself a thousand 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: different ways. So if those things scare you off, then okay. 141 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna be scared off by that stuff 142 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: or the shoulder entry. Like fifty said, I think he's 143 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: gonna have a long enough time. And I feel like 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: every time I've doubted Bucky after his combine, I moved 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: it down a little bit, huge mistake last year when 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: he's coming back. I didn't think they were gonna give 147 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: him the full workload and they did. Every time I 148 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: doubt Bucky, he has made me look like an idiot. 149 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna do it again. 150 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: As I recall, and I'm actually trying to quickly pull 151 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: up the article here. Like one of the reasons that 152 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I was a little down on him going into last 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: year was he was like ranked pretty highly. I'm trying 154 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: to pull up our trade value chart from then. Yeah, 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: he was. He was RB seven in the trade value chart. 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Right now is RB seventeen. I think he belongs somewhere 157 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of there. I mean, Bob, when you 158 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: said he's about RB thirteen, I don't think he should 159 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: be as high as RB seven, but I do think 160 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: RB seventeen is too. I think like right in the 161 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: middle of that is about where I would be comfortable. 162 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: That would put him, like, based on our trade value 163 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: chart fits like you know, uh one O eight one 164 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: oh nine ish next year is kind of the equivalent 165 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: that we have in the charts. Is that I know 166 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: you like next to his class as much as you 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: like Bucky. Does that still seem aggressive to you to 168 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: give up a pick like that to get. 169 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: Him fairly aggressive? Just because I know you don't have 170 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: to pay that price right now? Yeah, I think you 171 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: could get. 172 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: Him for a late first right now. 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: It's it would be lowder lower. 174 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, if you're buying him for fair market price. 175 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: You don't want to pay fair market price. You want 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: to pay a little bit more. So you know, right now, 177 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: what we're saying is go fishing, right Like, you try 178 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: to acquire him and if he's going to cost exactly 179 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: what he should cost and it's not a deal and 180 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: you leave it. 181 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I see him more as a value visa 182 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: the other running backs than just an overall value, because, 183 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: after all, like running backs do, their value in Dynasty 184 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: is a little more fragile than it is for players 185 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: at other positions. And Bucky's a running back who's under 186 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: two hundred pounds and there's a certain injury risk baked 187 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: into that. 188 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: What what if I'm offering you fits you like an 189 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: equivalent running back and a pick, like like if I 190 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: if I'm giving up Bucky in a third for next year, 191 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: Let's say a mid third for Chase Brown. I watch 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: Chacky ranked ahead of Chase Brown. Oh okay, well then 193 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: there you go. He's the answer. 194 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's stick with the same team, Bogman, who's your first 195 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: half target? 196 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say a Mecchaig Buka. You know he 197 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: is expensive on the trade value chart. I think he's 198 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: a sixty three, which would be like a late first 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: round pick or a late twenty twenty seven first round pick, 200 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: plus like an upside shot, like a Tesla, a Jeremy Bernard, 201 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: a Chris Bell from this class. But if you look 202 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 4: at the first game or the first five games, excuse me, 203 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: last season, where and mechag Buka was perfectly healthy, and 204 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: so was Baker Mayfield, he was wide receiver three, and 205 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: that was with Mike Evans playing by the way at 206 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: that point. So for the first three weeks, he was 207 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: wide receiver three in those first five weeks, then he 208 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: got hurt. He came back through week twelve, though still 209 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: he was wide receiver twelve overall, so he was still 210 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: a wide receiver one. Then Baker Mayfield got hurt, then 211 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: Mike Evans came back late, and so did McMillan. So 212 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: weeks thirteen through eighteen, Agbuka was wide receiver sixty three. 213 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: But again that was when Baker was playing through his injury. 214 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: We had Mike Evans come back, all these things. So 215 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: I think right now, mechag Buka, I think I think 216 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: he's gonna end the season as like a top six 217 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 4: or seven wide receiver. He's going to be the number 218 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 4: one for Tampa Bay, I think by a decent margin. 219 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: Chris Godwin's getting a little bit older. 220 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: You know. 221 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: Ted Hurst is a nice guy that they brought in, 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: but he's not a guy that's going to challenge with 223 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: mechai Buka at all. So I'm really excited for mechag 224 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: Buka's future. And right now he's going to wide receiver twelve. 225 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: I have him at eleven currently. I think there's way 226 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: more upside here. So I just think that you should 227 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: at least be asking about Aguka. 228 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: Now. 229 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: This may not be a trade that you can get done. 230 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not perfect, but I do think his value 231 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: is low based on where it could end up being. 232 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 4: And I think he went up a couple spots in 233 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: a couple of days because when I originally looked on Monday, 234 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: he was wide receiver fourteen. 235 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah he is twelve. Now. There's been some fun comments 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: from his new offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson about you know 237 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: how he might get used this year. Obviously, Mike Evan's gone. 238 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: This is one fits where you guys just talked about 239 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: with Bucky, like you don't have to pay market price. 240 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: This is what I would pay market price, Like I 241 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: just I like, I think it's hard to rank him 242 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: higher than where he is right now, but you can 243 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: see the upside there, and I would just be like 244 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: totally comfortable paying what it costs, you know, not overpaying, 245 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: but paying what it costs to get a booker right now. 246 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: You know, some of the names around him, like in 247 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the trade value chart for example, Tedoro McMillan, Carnell Tate, 248 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: George Pickens or the three right ahead of him, I 249 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: could see him usurping those I really like those players, 250 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: but I could see a world where he usurps those 251 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: guys going into next season. The top eight, it's pretty 252 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: tough to you know, just kind of break into but 253 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: like you know, injuries happen, maybe neighbors comes back, so 254 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: like you never know. So like I think a Buka 255 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: is like a very worthy target right now, and I 256 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: think all the upside kse is that you know Bugman 257 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: is laying out make a lot of sense to me. 258 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've actually got Bogman out flanked on UHB 259 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: in the rankings. 260 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: I've got him at wide receiver ten in Dynasty. 261 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: I just remember last year around the time of the draft, 262 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: where the consensus was that Ebuca was one of the 263 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: two or three most universally beloved prospects among all NFL teams. 264 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Like everyone who met with them just couldn't say enough 265 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: good things about like what kind of a person he was, 266 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: and how eager he was, and how good he was 267 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: on the whiteboard, and just everything was so positive. Then 268 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: he gets into OTA's and like the buzz is great 269 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: about how he's performing. Then in training camp that the 270 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: drumbeat continues to be positive. And then he gets off 271 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: to that red hot start where he's wide receiver three 272 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: through the first five weeks before he tweaks his hamstring 273 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: and things go a little off the rails and Baker 274 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: gets hurt, and Baker looks a little more like the 275 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: Carolina Pan's version of Baker Mayfield than the Tampa Bay 276 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Buccaneers version. Things just kind of went downhill. But you know, 277 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: Mike Evans no longer there. And I should note that 278 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: when Baker or when Abuka got off to that great 279 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: start the first five weeks last season, at least one 280 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: of Godwin and Evans was there for all five of 281 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: those games where Abuka was playing great. I think it 282 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: was Godwin missed the first three and then Evans missed 283 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: Games four and five. Yep, So it wasn't like Abuka 284 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: had that wide receiver, you know, the prime wide receiver 285 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: role all to himself. 286 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 4: So and we didn't like this this landing spot initially 287 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: right because. 288 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Of it, because we thought it was crowded exactly. 289 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: And now now Godwin's a year older, he's thirty now, 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: I think, and you know, I don't think Godwin's quite 291 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: the same guy he was pre leg injury. Evans is gone, 292 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: like Abuka could absolutely be the I expect him to 293 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: be the high target earner in Tampa Bay this year. 294 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I'm very bullish. I think it looks 295 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: more like like the early season Abuca in twenty twenty six, 296 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: then the Abuka we saw from week six on last year. 297 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: What round in a dynasty startup super flex? 298 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: Hmmm, I think we're talking three. 299 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I think that's where he probably goes, like mid to 300 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: late three, and. 301 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: I think I take him early three. 302 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? 303 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: Bogman? Yeah, I got him at thirty and super flex, 304 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: so mid mid to early third round. 305 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking more like late three, early fourth. But 306 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be low on him, So maybe 307 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I need to kind of reconsider that because he's a player. 308 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: That I got twenty seven overall, so I think he's 309 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: like an early third. 310 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: You do have me out flanked. Yes, I don't like that. 311 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: He told you. Listen. If you play in a serious 312 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: dynasty league, you should check out League Tycoon. It's a 313 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: modern fantasy football platform built specifically for dynasty leagues, not redraft. 314 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Standard dynasty leagues on League Tycoon are completely free. 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Fits Let's go to a 326 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: running back. 327 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: For your next one, I'm gonna go with Blake Korum, 328 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: just a player who we saw I don't know if 329 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: we can call it a coming out party when he 330 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: was just the backup to Kyron Williams last year, but 331 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: with his basically thirty to forty percent share of the 332 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: snaps and carries, showed us what he could do and 333 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: even gave us a little bit of stayd alone value, 334 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: a guy you could actually start, I know, in Dynasty, 335 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: like we like our running backs to catch passes because 336 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: Dynasty leagues are typically PPR leagues, and that's the one 337 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: thing like Korm doesn't do, or at least hasn't done 338 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: yet in the NFL. But I love that we're getting 339 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: like playability from him because he is going to be 340 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: this trusted backup running back in one of the best 341 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: offenses in the league on a team that, with the 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: addition of Miles Garrett, is now like kind of an 343 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: overwhelming Super Bowl favorite and figures to have like maybe 344 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: Aaron donnal yeah, and maybe Aaron Donald. They're gonna have 345 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: run friendly game scripts all year. Like I know, Sean 346 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: McVeigh is never going to go into full caveman mode 347 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: where he's running the ball sixty percent of the time. 348 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: But the Rams will be able to have the luxury 349 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: of running the ball a lot this year, and whatever 350 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: happens if Kyron goes down, all of asen Korm's a 351 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: guy who you would be ranking in weekly rankings as 352 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: like a top five or top ten running back and 353 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: he's only twenty five. We liked him as a prospect, 354 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: we liked what we saw of him last year. I 355 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: just I think the needle is up, and he's generally 356 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: cheap in startups and as far as trades. I mean, 357 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: he's almost like a throwing level guy. I've got him 358 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: running back twenty six, But I just, what's the ECR 359 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: on quorum worm. I know I'm comfortably out thirty forty four. Yeah, 360 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: So I just I think he's worthwhile, and I don't 361 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: think he necessarily can't catch passes. I just think he 362 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: hasn't been asked to do it really, either in college 363 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: or in the pros. 364 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: By the way, the reason I hesitated on that ECR 365 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: thank you for stepping in, Bogman, is because I was 366 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: on the trade value chart page. He is higher on there. 367 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I think partially due to your ranking. Fits He's up 368 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: at RB twenty eight in the trade value chart, but yes, 369 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: and the overall expert consensus rankings he's at thirty four, 370 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: And again that's those are PPR rankings in there for 371 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: the sake of argument. Fits. If I were to tell you, like, 372 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: guaranteed Kien Williams does not get hurt this year, what 373 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: do you think the upside is for where Korum finishes. Like, 374 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to kind of pinpoint just how much standalone 375 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: value he really does have if Kyron doesn't go down, 376 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Because even in that he had that really hot December 377 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: to finish last year, right, it was you know, best 378 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: kind of four game stretch that he had. He was 379 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: playing thirty three percent of the snaps, thirty one percent 380 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: of the snaps forty six and then twenty nine percent 381 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: of the snaps across those four games where he had 382 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: most of his production. So like, do you feel like 383 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: those that snap count can go up? Do you feel 384 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: like that's high enough given the you know, scoring equity 385 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: we think he might have and just how many touchdowns 386 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: this team was going to score next year. There's also 387 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: a team that like, I was sorry, I was looking 388 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: this up, so I apologize if you said this and 389 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: I missed it. Like they scored a lot of touchdowns 390 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: last year, Stafford threw a ton like it was clear 391 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: they were like interested in getting him the MVP. And 392 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: you know those a lot of those short yardage plays 393 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: were just like throw it to DeVante Adams. If that's 394 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: not the way they approach it this year and they're like, hey, 395 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: we get close, let's just like pound it with quorum, 396 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: those touchdown numbers could go even higher. So what is 397 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the standalone value if Kyroen stays healthy the whole year? 398 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean generally I think he's going to be 399 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: like a running back three somewhere in that range. But 400 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: I do think he could potentially have more than the 401 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: six touchdown runs he had last year for a team 402 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: that figures to score a. 403 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: Lot this year. Bogwin, where you out of Koram I 404 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: completely yeah, I completely agree with this call out. And 405 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: I think korm In the overall is probably one that 406 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 4: I have the biggest difference on in where I'm ranking 407 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 4: him just a lot higher because you look, you know, 408 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: this season, I don't think we're going to see that 409 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford throwing a million touchdowns, specifically late because I 410 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: think with such overwhelming odds to be the favorite to 411 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 4: win the NFC and go to the Super Bowl, and 412 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 4: you definitely have a chance to win it, specifically with 413 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: Garrett and Donald on your line, it should be all right, 414 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: we're beating the brakes off this team. Let's run for 415 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: the entire fourth quarter, so we don't put Stafford in 416 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: any situation where he might get hurt. So let's pound 417 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: the rock. I think it's going to be a lot 418 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: of Korm, a lot of Kyron this season at the 419 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: end of game, So keep these guys, and Kyron's getting 420 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 4: a little bit older, keep him healthy down the stretch 421 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: as well. So I think you're gonna see a lot 422 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: of Blake Korn this season, in particular as a closer 423 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: to close out games, specifically in inside the five, because 424 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: you know, let the young man take those hits and 425 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: your keep your workhorse a little bit healthier. And Kyron 426 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: is a cap savings overall starting next year. Now next 427 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: year is only two million dollars, I don't think or 428 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: less than that. I don't think you cut him in, 429 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: but he's definitely gone in twenty twenty nine, when he's 430 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: gonna be saving nine million dollars, and if Stafford has gone, 431 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: maybe they do keep both these guys and don't cut 432 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 4: Kyron at all because they need to run the ball. 433 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: Because ty Simpson is a very you know, it doesn't 434 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: have a lot of starts. He's very inexperienced. So I 435 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: think just there's different pathways to Blake Krn being a 436 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: great value. This is the one. I was most upset 437 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: about that. And Fits, you put your sheet together like 438 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: three minutes after we knew what the show was this week, 439 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: and you had Blake Korm and it was the first 440 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: name I thought of. I wake up before four in 441 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: the afternoon. I get more coming out of college than 442 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: I did, so I have to give that up. I 443 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: think you're muted, you're Mike. 444 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a. 445 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Vampire like you, bogs. I wake up before four in 446 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: the afternoon. 447 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I wake up before four in the after was fuddy. 448 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I was a guy, send me your 449 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: names for the show. This was like early afternoon one 450 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: day and I was like by tomorrow evening and Fit 451 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: sent them like five minutes later. So yeah, he had 452 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time. 453 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: And Crows chained me to my desk. 454 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: I don't know what else to do. 455 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: Let's stick with the young running backs here, Bogman, your 456 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: next must have dynasty target. 457 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think I have to push back 458 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 4: on the Traveon Henderson hate coming from other sources on 459 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: this website recently. So our guys Ericson and deebro I 460 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 4: don't think are very much in on Trebon for this season, 461 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 4: which I can understand this season Wheremandre is back, where 462 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: Mandre had better efficiency numbers than Treveon did last season. 463 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: By I think right now in his ECR is still 464 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: RB twelve. I have him at RB nine. But you 465 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 4: can get him for like you know, Marvin Harrison has 466 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: been questionable. You could get Henderson for Harrison straight up. 467 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: I know that's something fits he would probably do you 468 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: know Jalen Wattle, who is a little bit older, you 469 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 4: could get. But your options for two for one take 470 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: a wide receiver like Dobbs, Reed, Myers, Cocher, Noel or Nole. 471 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: Excuse me, add one of the Panthers guys, or maybe JK. Dobbins, 472 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: Like according to our trade value chart in two for one, 473 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: if someone's looking for that, I don't know who does 474 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: that deal, but that's what the value shows. But I mean, 475 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: I think I really like Henderson for a lot of 476 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: different reasons, but the main one is being, Okay, you're 477 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: adding AJ Brown, right they face the tenth For Stevenson 478 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: was the tenth most eight plus defenders in the box 479 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: for Henderson was fourteenth most. So for these guys, they 480 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: came in with a ton of guys up in the box. 481 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: And now that AJ Brown has a good quarterback, I 482 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: think he is going to lighten that a little bit, 483 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: make everybody take a step back early in the season, 484 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: and this offensive line was really working well for both 485 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: these guys. Last year, Stevenson again, you know, slightly better. 486 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: He was first running yards over expected. Henderson was also 487 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 4: in the top ten Anderson was fifth. And explosive percentage 488 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: his success percentage was slightly higher than Stevenson, and he 489 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: had more runs. He had the sixth fastest timed run 490 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 4: in the NFL last year fifty five yards score. And 491 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: remember the second season breakout for guys like Jonathan Taylor, 492 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: Chase Brown a chan and the big holes that he 493 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: has in his game right now are routes and pass blocking, 494 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 4: and he has said that that is what he's worked 495 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: on all off season. So you know, Stevenson is a 496 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 4: decent back, but he's nowhere near the talent level ultimately 497 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: that Henderson is going to get to, and I think 498 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: it's probably going to be this season. I think we're 499 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: a little low on him overall, even though he still 500 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: is an RB one, So if I could get him 501 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: for a guy like you know, I I think Marvin 502 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: Harrison's going to be better this year, But does that 503 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 4: mean he's gonna be worth more than Henderson, I don't know. 504 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 4: Probably not. Waddle is a declining player. So if you're 505 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 4: a team that has your deep at wide receiver and 506 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: you need a running back and you you know you 507 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 4: can make a deal like this, I think you go 508 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: ahead and do it for Henderson before he soars to 509 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: the moon. 510 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Fits, you were like the Henderson guy 511 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: last year. I think you had him like RB seven 512 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: or eight. You know, going into the season, you were 513 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: very excited about him. What kind of usage do you 514 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: expect this year? And where are you ranking him right now? 515 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: RB eleven, so one spot ahead of Bucky. I'm still bullish. 516 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: And remember that glorious little breakout we got from him 517 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: in like mid November last year. I think it was 518 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: like a five game stretch from mid November to mid 519 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: December where Henderson had like seven touchdowns and to one 520 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: hundred and forty some yard rushing games and like it all, 521 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: everyone was like, ah, finally exactly what we were waiting for. 522 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the genie went back 523 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: in the bottle because his pass blocking was terrible and 524 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: they trusted Ramandre Stevenson way more to keep Drake May upright, 525 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: which they kind of needed to because you know, you 526 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: had alligator arms at left tackle and it just like 527 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: you didn't have the best pass blocking offensive line, so 528 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: you needed a run like that last line of defense. 529 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: But the funny thing was when we were. 530 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: Talking about the prospect profile for Trayvon Henderson coming out 531 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: of Ohio State, always the best pass blocking running back 532 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: in this class, and weirdly that area was a problem 533 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: for him. But like a guy who was touted as 534 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: a good pass blocker coming out of college, like the 535 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: tools for him to do it well are there. He 536 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: just didn't do it well last year and it killed 537 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: his playing time at the end of the year. And 538 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: I think that complete reduction in playing time at the 539 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: end of the year is this great smoke screen for 540 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: anyone who wants to swoop in and buy Travon Henderson 541 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 2: now or pick him up in a startup draft. 542 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Would you rather Travon Henderson or Bucky Irving? 543 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 2: I've got Henderson ranked one spot higher, so yeah, you 544 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: like in a startup In a startup draft, I would 545 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: take Henderson ahead of Bucky. 546 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Same? 547 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, they're five spots apart in ECR, but then 548 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: they have the same age at least. I don't know 549 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: when their birthdays are, but they're both currently twenty three, 550 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: so that's interesting with Bucky having the extra year in 551 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: the league. Do you want a chance to win a 552 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Chris Alave signed Saints mini helmet for free courtesy of 553 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: our friends at Christineauction dot com. All you have to 554 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros Dynasty YouTube channel 555 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: right now, drop a comment below on any of our videos, 556 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: and that is it will be announcing a winner right 557 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: here on the channel. 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All right, fits, Let's 560 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: go to a receiver. 561 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: Christian Watson, and a lot of people are just going 562 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: to dismiss this out of hand because of his injury 563 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: history twenty miss games in four NFL seasons. 564 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: I totally get it. 565 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: Whenever our social media team puts up some video of 566 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: me talking nicely about Christian Watson, I just get roast 567 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 2: in the comments because everyone assumes he's never gonna make 568 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: it through a full season. But you know, Watson was 569 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: excellent last year. Comes back, to be. 570 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Clear, this is why the social media team keeps putting those. 571 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 2: Clips Exactly they like to see me barbecued by all 572 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: these people on Twitter. 573 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: Engage engagement, Yeah, right. 574 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: But tears his ACL at the end of the twenty 575 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: twenty four season. Comes back last year comes back like 576 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: pretty rapidly too. And in ten regular season games last year, 577 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Watson averaged seventeen and a half yards per catch, eleven 578 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: point one yards per target, two point two eight yards 579 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: per route run, which is like close to Justin Jefferson's 580 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: yardage per out run for his career. He was producing 581 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: in a one thousand yard ten touchdown pace. And now 582 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: the Packers who have been using this very frustrating rotation 583 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: of like five wide receivers, well, Romeo Dobbs gone, Dontavian 584 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: Wick's gone. It's basically going to be a core three 585 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: of Watson, Jayden Reid, and Matthew Golden. And I think 586 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: Watson is pretty clearly the best of those three guys. Now, 587 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: Tucker Kraft could be a major player for the Packers too, 588 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: but coming off at torn ACL so we don't know 589 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: how ready he's going to go to ready he'll be 590 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: in week one, even though he's confident he'll be full go. 591 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: And I just like, I love the athletic profile with 592 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: Watson six' four four point three six. Speed he's Got 593 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: Jordan love as his, quarterback who was like second in 594 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: the league IN epa expected points added per dropback last. 595 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: Season and it's just a really good. Passer and The 596 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: packers have been run heavy the last couple of. Years 597 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: they've been thirty first and twenty second in pass rate. 598 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: Overexpected what if they have to throw more this? Year 599 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 2: like what if their defense isn't as good With Micah 600 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: parson's missing for probably the first month month and a. Half, 601 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: WATSON i just this guy's the chance to be, special 602 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: and the injury prone label is making him much more 603 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: affordable than he should. 604 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Be he wh id, say we're, thirteen you, know in 605 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: that stretch coming back from the. Injury last, year even IN, 606 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: ppr which is not his best, format he had three 607 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: top six finishes at the position from week eleven to week. 608 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: SEVENTEEN i WONDER i didn't take the time to look this. 609 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: UP i wonder how many receivers had three finishes that 610 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: high in that same time. SPAN i can't imagine it's 611 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: many of. Them like the ceiling week to week is 612 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: just so high With Christian. Watson and now he gets 613 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: this you, know extra normal offseason right that he didn't 614 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: get last year coming off the. Injury all the stuff 615 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: that fits laid. OUT i was thinking about trading him 616 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: away in one of my leagues that you guys are not, 617 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: in AND i probably end up won't trading him, away 618 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: BUT i was like trying to think about like WHAT 619 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: i would be willing to give him up. For and 620 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: the reason THAT i THINK i might not actually end 621 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: up trading him is every TIME i looked at, like, 622 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: well what WOULD i actually consider taking for him that's, 623 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: REALISTIC i felt Like i'd actually be really scared to 624 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: be getting rid Of Christian, Watson LIKE i like the 625 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: fear of you, know missing out the fomo of not 626 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: having him on my team when he looked as good 627 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: as he did to finish the season coming off the, 628 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: injury when he fits With Jordan love seemingly so, well 629 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: LIKE i was scared to move away from, him and 630 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: SO i think ULTIMATELY i end up well not trading. 631 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Him but why if you were thirty two IN Ecr 632 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: obviously that's way lower than he was living up to 633 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: when he came back at the end of last, Year, 634 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: bogwin where is he ranked for you in the. 635 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: Forties So i'm Just i'm too. Afraid i'm a coward 636 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: when it comes to the injury, stuff, Right AND i 637 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: think the perfect trade for him in my, book because 638 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: you look at the running back that running backs that he's, 639 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: around it's you, know it's Like charvion. A you, know 640 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: is in there another guy that's hurt or Like Derreck 641 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: henry Or Josh shacobs who has the off the field. 642 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: Stuff so it's like either an old, guy an injured, 643 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: guy or a guy with off the field issues in that. 644 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: Range SO i don't want to trade him for. THAT 645 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: i think you're right in, that, Worm BUT i do 646 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 4: see that he's worth you, know somewhere in the vicinity 647 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: of a pick seven through twelve next. Year that's WHAT 648 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: i want For Christian. WATSON i want a dart throw 649 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: at the back end of the first round next, year you, 650 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: know mid to back, end somewhere in, there BECAUSE i 651 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: know talent's going to, fall specifically in super flex, leagues 652 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: because so many quarterbacks are going to, go so talent 653 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: is going to fall at the running back, position at 654 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: the wide receiver. Position so IF i could Trade watson 655 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: and get one of, those you, know late first round, 656 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: PICKS i would definitely do. It AND i think even 657 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: THOUGH fitzi is telling us that you, know he loves, 658 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: HIM i think he might do that. 659 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: Too no one's giving you a first round pick For. 660 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: Watson that's what the trade value charge. Says it says forty, 661 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: five and he's forty six points on the on. 662 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: On our artcause so probably BECAUSE i like him so. 663 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: Much but you're not getting, That but you're getting a second. 664 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: FROM i think you, can THOUGH i think you're wrong. 665 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: FITS i THINK i think that, uh if someone is 666 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: is act as excited as you, ARE i don't think 667 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: they're looking uh as much into that next. YEARS i 668 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: THINK i don't think most people could have gotten late 669 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: first in this year's, draft not in next. Year there's no. 670 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 4: WAY i bet you there's some scenarios where you still 671 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: can not all of, them and not with shrewd. OWNERS 672 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: i understand. That but IF i can get that or 673 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: even a high, SECOND i would trade. 674 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: In Green bay Or Aschwabanon Dynasty league, perhaps but. 675 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: NOT i think you underestimate people's love for a guy. 676 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: For what it's worth to Defend boggs's stance, Here like 677 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: they're not every league is as well informed and is 678 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: aware that this next year's class is like a lot 679 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: of the ones that listen to us are. Aware there 680 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: are leagues out there where people maybe aren't as aware 681 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: because they don't listen to shows like this and they 682 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: just think. 683 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: Of Christian watson when you you, know, yeah and it's. 684 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: A great finish last year and the going now it's healthy. 685 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: AGAIN i think it's, unlikely BUT i don't think it's 686 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: impossible in the right. Way, AGAIN i think it mostly it's. 687 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: IMPOSSIBLE i think there are leagues where it is. Possible 688 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: would be my, guest BUT i don't. 689 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: Know BUT i think either, Way i'm looking to get 690 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: rid Of watson BECAUSE i think his value is inflated 691 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: right now because of his. Finish so for, Me i'm 692 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: on the opposite end of. This but This we've been 693 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: talking about this Since january and nothing has changed for 694 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 4: either one of. Us. Fits he's very excited About. Watson i'm. 695 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: Not that's just kind of how it. Goes so love 696 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: your corm take this one sucks. 697 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: If it's what do you think about Like watson plus 698 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: a lower pick to get a? First do you think, that, 699 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know what that if that picks a third, 700 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: year you'd like maybe like a twenty eight second if 701 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: somebody is really really leaning to willing to lean into 702 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: a longer term, vision like do you Think watson plus 703 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: a pick gets you a first and some you, know 704 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: in more. 705 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: League maybe maybe If i'm making that trade With, Debro 706 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: i'm able to do. It but with the average person who, 707 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: thinks you, know the average person has much more of 708 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: A bogman point of view On Christian, Watson like that's 709 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: that's kind of where it's. 710 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: At, YEAH i just want to bring up because you 711 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: mentioned the social media. Backlash. Fits we have a clip 712 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: from you and me On Jeremiah smith and where he 713 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: would be in The Dynasty trade value chart before ever 714 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: playing a. Game, BOGMAN i don't. Know did you see this? 715 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: CLIP i, Did, OKAY i was gonna, SAY i was 716 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: going to ask your prediction for WHAT fitzi. Said But 717 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: i'm curious where you Have Jeremiah smith just because we 718 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: were thinking about the social, media BECAUSE i thought that was. 719 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: INTERESTING i, MEAN i THINK i think it's just correct 720 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 4: right right the. 721 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Way for those who didn't see the, clip wide receiver 722 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: three in The dynasty trade value chart before ever playing a, GAME. 723 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: I think MAYBE i would have him at, five BUT 724 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: i would have him in the top. Tier you, KNOW 725 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 4: i know a lot of people have the top two 726 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: in the or three in the first. Tier people don't 727 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: know what to do With jefferson since the quarterback play 728 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: was so bad there last. Year i'm not really flinching 729 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: At jefferson's value as. MUCH i do have him at, 730 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: Four so if you want to put him at, four, 731 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: OKAY i probably have him at five Behind, Jefferson, POOKA, 732 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 4: jsn And. Chase but in that tier there are a. 733 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: Bunch Of Marvin Harrison junior has turned a bunch of 734 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: people into Nervous nelly's about highly Regarded ohio state wide. 735 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Receiver so many comments apples. 736 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: And, oranges man apples And Jeremiah smith is a different, 737 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: species different. 738 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: Species, well people there Were i'm surprised that people were 739 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 4: so upset because you chose we we were talking. Fades 740 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 4: you Chose Marvin, harrison and the social media put out 741 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: my clip On Marvin, harrison which is WHAT i, said 742 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 4: there needs to be a line in the, sand and 743 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: The Marvin harrison lovers crushed me for. That they did 744 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 4: not like, that and they also missed the first part 745 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: WHERE i, SAID i expect him to have a good 746 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, six so this probably isn't where we're gonna. 747 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: Be but if he bad in twenty, SIX i think 748 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 4: we need to draw a line in the sand because 749 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: we just keep making. 750 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 3: Excuses those social media, People. 751 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah who are those, guys the guys to Compare Jeremiah 752 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: smith who are Not ohio state. Receivers It's Jamar, Chase 753 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: it's It's Calvin. Johnson those are the. Names and if you. 754 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: Still keep Fading Jeremiah, smith he to guys. 755 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Like third wide receivers too. High there's so many great wide, receivers, 756 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: right now who have actually proven. It we don't know 757 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: where his landing spot. Is that's a totally valid, ARGUMENT i. 758 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: Think but you cannot, argue, well we're just Doing Marvin 759 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: Harrison junior, again are? We that is not what it. 760 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: Is Jeremiah smith is a different tier of. Prospect he 761 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: is in with those guys who are just like and 762 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: by the, way all of them who dated hit you, Know. 763 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 4: CHASE i, mean Let Jeremiah smith scare you off, of 764 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 4: or Let Marvin harrison scare you off Of Jeremiah smith 765 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: at your own, yes failure there that. 766 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: IS i hope we get those nervous nellies picking one 767 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: on one And i'm ONE o two and. 768 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: Exactly that would be. Nice let's get back to the, Show, 769 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: bogvin your next must have. Target, Yeah i'm gonna say 770 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: this is for someone building for the. Future kalamana guy right, 771 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: now he's forty on the trade value. Chart that's along 772 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: the lines of Like Kwanda, Robinson Jayden, Higgins Matthew, golden 773 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: guys like. That And swift is a free agent in 774 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven and they don't have a ton of 775 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: running back help on the roster as of right. Now 776 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Mina gay And swift we're both not facing many stack. 777 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: BOXES i, mean you, know we Heard jake last, WEEK 778 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: i believe say buy the, cake not the, icing and 779 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: what he meant in that, was don't pick a wide 780 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: receiver for The. Bears just Take Caleb. Williams he's gonna 781 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: be the best, part Right AND i understand. That but 782 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: also the running backs get a nice big boost from this, 783 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: offense being as high flying as it is by not 784 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: having to face stack. Boxes they these guys didn't get 785 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: touched behind the line very often. Either it's a great 786 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: scenario for any running back to be. In And swift 787 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be gone next. Year a lot of running 788 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: backs getting. Extensions i'm not going to rule that out 789 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: completely For, swift but as of right, NOW i don't 790 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: think it's going to. HAPPEN i think they Like Mano. 791 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: Guy guy is a guy that had two hundred and 792 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: fifty touches as a, junior two hundred and seventy as a, 793 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: senior so he can be a workhorse. Back AND i 794 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: JUST i really love whoever the lead back is going 795 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: to be in this offense right, now SO i think 796 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: next year it's probably gonna Be Kyle mna. Guy So 797 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: i'm going to try to buy today to get him 798 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: cheaper than what he's gonna cost next. 799 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 4: SEASON i love. 800 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: THIS i am A Kyle manung. Guy He's ericson AND 801 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: i have said at all last year on the trade. 802 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: Show HE'S rb, thirty which feels like the risk of 803 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: and this is always a risk with running backs who 804 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: kind of went go later in the draft day three 805 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: and show out. Early there's always a risk, of, well 806 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: now they draft the REAL rb one of the future, 807 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: higher you, know in a year or, two right Like 808 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: bijon kind of Usurping Tyler, algier who was A day three. 809 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: Pick that's kind of the clear an example of. It 810 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: so as a seventh round, pick it's hard for that 811 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: not to be in the back of my. MIND i 812 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: think that risk is factored in already when you look 813 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: at his. Ranking HE'S rb thirty IN. Ecr this is 814 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: somebody who as of right now has a pretty clear 815 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: path to being a starting running back a year from 816 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: now in a very you, know ascending offense that we 817 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: are really excited about that wants to be run. HEAVY 818 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: i think he's a good. Player we've seen enough for 819 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: me to at least feel like he's. GOOD i don't 820 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: know if he's you, know, amazing BUT i do think 821 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: he's a good. Player it's a fun, offense like and 822 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: there's a path here and then kind of similar With 823 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: cora on like If swift were to ever get, hurt 824 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: this is somebody that we're probably ranking as a top 825 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: eight running back every week the rest of the, Way 826 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: so like there's real upside from where he's ranked. Already 827 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: and then if they don't go out and draft like 828 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: a round two running back in the next year's, class 829 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: which of course again is a, risk then all of a, 830 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: sudden this looks like crazy. Low SO i really really 831 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: like this. Pick bogman fits what do you? 832 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: Think well real quick. Too if The bears don't take 833 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 4: an edge with their first round, PICK i think the 834 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 4: fans might go burn the stadium down in twenty and 835 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: twenty seven because that's what everybody wanted them to address 836 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 4: this year and do anything towards. It because he's still 837 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 4: like Awesome, Bookers SO i think that high the early 838 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: picks are probably gonna be spent on defense next, year and. 839 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: You would, think, YEAH i, MEAN i feel like the 840 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: three of us are pretty modest about taking victory, laps 841 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: BUT i feel like we could skate a victory lap 842 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: with The Stanley cup On Kaumannan gui because Like, bogs 843 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 2: you AND i really liked him At rutgers where, small 844 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: not that, fast but man like, you you watched the 845 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: guy At rutgers and it was like trying to tackle 846 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: The Tasmanian devil from the Old Looney tunes, cartoons like 847 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: this guy is just so like angry and like, kinetic you. 848 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: Know and and, YES i Think worm quickly picked up 849 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: on our enthusiasm From, Manangay so, yes we'll pass The 850 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: Stanley cup To worm for a lap as. 851 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 4: Well thank. You and seventh round pick in last year's class. 852 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 4: FITS i, Mean scataboo was a right. Right it was 853 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 4: littered with running, backs and the upcoming class has a 854 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: couple of really good ones at the, top BUT i 855 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 4: don't know how the rest is going to. Do like running 856 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 4: back seems like it might be a little weak. 857 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: Now and there was just something you, Said boggs about 858 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: how rarely he ever gets touched behind the line of 859 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: scrimmage and just generally let's not forget. That Ben johnson 860 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: has been one of the best designers of running games 861 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: we have, Seen LIKE, i you, KNOW i don't know 862 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: If Kyle shanahan and McVeigh can Match Ben johnson as 863 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: far as designing a running game like he is fantastic 864 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: at that and should still be a very Good bears offensive. 865 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: Line they've taken a couple of hits with The Chris 866 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: doloman retirement And Ozzie, trapillo who was you, know unexpectedly 867 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: good as a rookie and had That pateller injury And 868 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: pateller injury, Suck but it's still gonna be a good offensive, 869 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: line and it's still designed By Ben. Johnson and LIKE i, 870 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 2: think Whether dynasty Or, REDRAFT i think kind of Both 871 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: swift And manangai are being. 872 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: UNDERVALUED i think so. Too go get. 873 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Him he only averaged three point nine yards per carry 874 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: in his game Against maryland his last college, season which 875 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: is WHY i thought he. Sucked to you guys told 876 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: me he was actually. GOOD i, no, YEAH i very 877 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: quickly was in on anung. Guy i'm surprised he fell 878 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: to the seventh, round AND i think he showed that 879 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: was a GREAT i, mean even if he never does anything, 880 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: else that's a really good seventh round pick. Already what 881 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: he did. 882 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 4: LAST i mean that that twenty twenty five class was, Crazy, 883 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: yeah running, Back so seventh round in that class might 884 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: as well. Be it would have been. 885 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: Third yeah in this year's, class pretty. 886 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: Much. 887 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: YEAH i want to tell everybody about The Trade. Analyzer 888 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: dynasty is all about timing the. 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Receiver. 901 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah you guys Know i'm a notorious agist when it 902 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: comes To dynasty, football BUT i will put in a 903 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: good word for a guy who's going to turn thirty 904 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 2: one right around the time the twenty twenty six season kicks. 905 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: Off terry, McLaurin who poised for a bounce back year 906 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 2: after an injury plagued twenty twenty. Five McLaurin missed seven 907 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: games with a quad injury and his Quarterback Jadan daniels 908 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: missed ten. Games but When daniels was a rookie in 909 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, four McLaurin had eighty two catches for one 910 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: thy ninety six yards and thirteen. Touchdowns career high McLaurin 911 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: WAS i believe wide receiver seven in full POINT ppr that. 912 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: Year so both guys healthy now and McLaurin should get 913 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: a big target. CHAIR i don't like the analysis where it's, like, 914 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: oh who else are they going to throw? 915 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: To but who else are they going to throw? To In? 916 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 2: Washington you, know like who's number Two Antonio, williams rookie 917 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: third Rounder jake o', Konquo and we've heard why, NO 918 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: i mean, yea if anyone wants to sign him. 919 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 3: After it's p, yeah. 920 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: Exactly his Little instagram rant was probably not great for 921 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: future employment For Brandon, ayuk and we've Seen washington's new offensive, 922 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 2: Coordinator David blouse say that he feels compelled to find 923 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: a way to get McLaurin ten targets a. Game and 924 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: this was a guy, who before last, year when things 925 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: were short circuited by, injuries had rattled off five straight 926 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: thousand yard seasons and averaged eighty catches a year over that. 927 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: Span so this guy's good over his. Career eight point 928 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: nine yards per, target one point eight nine yards per 929 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: route run outstanding numbers when you consider some of the 930 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 2: Quarter terry McLaurin was forced to play with early in his. 931 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: Career SO i think he's a Goodbye if you're not 932 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 2: too afraid of buying a thirty one year old wide 933 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 2: receiver about to be thirty one year old wide, receiver 934 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: are you. 935 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: Interested fits in like pretty much any situation and are 936 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: not scared off by the, age or are? You would 937 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: you be an agist if, Like, OH i don't know 938 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: If i'm really ready to contend right, now like this 939 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: is more for a win now, Team. 940 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: No, right If i'm If i'm, rebuilding like if he's 941 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: a veteran on a rebuilding, team Like i've got a 942 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 2: McLaurin on a, team right now Where i'm kind of 943 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 2: in limbo And i've kind of been straddling the line 944 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: between rebuild and try to contend. 945 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: Again AND i think IF i, start you. 946 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: Know one in, Three i'll be looking to sell McLaurin 947 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: in that, league assuming McLaurin is playing well AND i 948 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: can get a good price for. 949 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: Him would you give up if you're a contender trying 950 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: to acquire? Him, like definitely not a, first but. 951 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: Like, NO i MEAN i don't know if like i'd 952 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 2: consider a second in twenty twenty, seven AND i, think 953 00:45:59,600 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: what do you get? 954 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: UP? R? J? 955 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: Harvey in a, HEARTBEAT i, THINK i mean they are 956 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 2: like four. POINTS i Think hervey's and the trade. Volue 957 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: i'm Worried harvey is kind of a bomb. 958 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: After what we saw last. Year let's be. 959 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 4: Honest, Tutin, Yeah tutan's the exact same costs on the trade. 960 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: Value, YEAH i mean The jaguars backfield deployment is going 961 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: to be kind of a. Mystery so right, now DO 962 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: i want to do that without seeing how those guys. 963 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 3: Are used In week? 964 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: ONE i don't, know but, YEAH i, mean LIKE i 965 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 2: THINK i would If i'm, Contending i'd probably be willing 966 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,399 Speaker 2: to give Up tuton for that's assuming That Chris rodriguez 967 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 2: has some sort of role in that offense early. 968 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 4: ON i, mean but BUT i, like even if he 969 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 4: doesn't and it's All, TUTIN i think it might be 970 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 4: all McLaurin this, year, Right so if you are pushing 971 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: those chips, IN i think for this year would. 972 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: Better it is funny if It's you scared me when 973 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: you said you don't like the analysis of who else 974 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: they going to throw, to because when you Mentioned terry, 975 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: McLaurin i was going to say THAT i was to throw, 976 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: to and then thankfully you, said but it actually does apply, 977 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: here because, yeah this is a situation where how could it. 978 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: Not it's the reason WHY i have talked About chickacoquo 979 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: all off. Season it's the reason WHY i Liked Antonio 980 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: williams in rookie, drafts because who Besides terry McLaurin WHEN 981 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: i we're talking about the guy that we know is 982 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: going to get those. 983 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 3: Targets the Only i'm more. 984 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 4: Worried the worry About terry McLaurin would be, like Can 985 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 4: Jane daniel stay? Upright that's worry about? Him for twenty 986 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 4: six and that would. 987 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: Be maybe the one guy The commanders could sign that 988 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 2: would make me have to reassess my expectations for McLaurin 989 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six would Be Stefon, diggs BECAUSE i 990 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: think that guy can still. 991 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Play you, know the thing With diggs that's interesting is 992 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 1: and obviously he went To, maryland so LIKE i followed 993 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: his career really. Closely a lot of people were, like 994 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: why didn't The ravens draft this guy out Of maryland 995 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: because obviously they are close enough and could see the 996 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: program that they had no quarterbacks. There there's a lot 997 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: of talk about like he needed to get away from 998 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: the area and and you, know he hasn't had the, 999 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: squeakiest squeaky, cleanest you, know off field history in THE, 1000 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: nfl and obviously has stuff going on right now in 1001 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: that regard this, offseason AND i don't want to like 1002 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: speak to any of, that but like coming back to 1003 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: the area might actually like be something that he ultimately 1004 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: avoids if he's trying to avoid some of those influences 1005 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: from where he grew up in the. Area so, Like 1006 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 1: baltimore And washington are two teams THAT i have always 1007 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of like not really considered strongling for. Him he's 1008 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot further along in his career at this point 1009 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: than he was ten years. Ago maybe that's not a consideration, 1010 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: anymore but that is something That i'm always thinking about 1011 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: with The commanders And, ravens With diggs. Specifically, so but 1012 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: if they were to actually go ahead and sign, him 1013 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: THEN i. AGREE i think that's somebody that would kind 1014 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: of change my perspective On terry for this year Because digg's, like, 1015 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: well he's not a superstar, anymore he's pretty. GOOD i. 1016 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 5: Think. 1017 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: Still all, Right, bobman we don't spend a lot of 1018 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: time on this one because you've talked about him a. 1019 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 1: Lot to talk to us About Skyler. 1020 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 4: Bell, well, LOOK i Have Skyler bell and Wide receiver 1021 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 4: fifty nine and HIS ecr is Wide receiver eighty. Eight 1022 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 4: so there's not many players AND i think are a 1023 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: better buy right now Than Skyler. BELL i think the 1024 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 4: trade value chart is probably a little bit better in 1025 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 4: finding his value than his actual rank IN ecr is 1026 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 4: because you, know you look BEYOND whd deceiver, six it's 1027 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 4: like these guys are, free but he's a, twenty so you, 1028 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 4: Know Dylan, SAMPSON Tyj, Spears Jordan, mason K Tron, allen 1029 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 4: all running backs that could have decent value for this. 1030 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 4: Season you, Know Kateron allen's probably more of your future 1031 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 4: play of that, group but everybody else could have decent 1032 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 4: value this, season And i'm just willing to trade that 1033 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 4: away for the upside Of Skyler. Bell this is a 1034 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 4: dude that was second receiving, yard, second, yack third and, 1035 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 4: targets third and, touchdowns fourth and receptions six and yards 1036 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 4: per route. Run he was tied for seventh in contested 1037 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 4: catches when that is the big knock on, him and 1038 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 4: that was a lot of that was. Value but he 1039 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 4: was sixty five percent on contested catches last, season ninth 1040 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 4: IN yak per, reception thirteenth in receiving grade a nine 1041 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 4: point seven to. One Rass, like there's so much upside 1042 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 4: here FOR i Like Skyler. Bell will he has some, Drops, 1043 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 4: YES i don't think those drops are going to keep 1044 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 4: him off the, field, though and he dropped them down 1045 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 4: to three last season only when having the third most 1046 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 4: targets in the. Country SO i Think Skyler bell has 1047 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 4: already taken strides in his football. LIFE i think he's 1048 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 4: gonna take a big, one and there's opportunity here In. 1049 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 4: BUFFALO i Like, shakir BUT i Think Skyler bell has 1050 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 4: a higher. Upside, Right he's gonna push way Past Palmer 1051 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: Kean coleman hasn't done. ANYTHING i still Love Dj. MOORE 1052 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 4: i Think Dj moore leads his team the next couple. 1053 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 4: Seasons But bell could Push shakir for that second target 1054 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 4: in This buffalo offense really, quickly AND i just think 1055 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 4: he's worth the. Value you gotta Trade Jordan mason to get, 1056 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 4: him do. It gotta trade a late third next year for, 1057 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 4: him do that to go Get Skyler. Bell there's so 1058 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 4: much upside. HERE i want him on all my. 1059 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: ROSTERS i was gonna ask, about, like in next year's, 1060 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: class what kind of pick you would give? Up so 1061 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: is a late? Third is that about what you would 1062 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: want to? 1063 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 4: DO i think that's what the trade value chart, says 1064 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 4: might be closer to an early, third BUT i think you, 1065 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 4: KNOW i would give up a mid to late. Second 1066 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 4: but obviously it's hard to know where you're gonna be. 1067 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 4: PICKING i KNOW i know ifits it even the class next, 1068 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 4: YEAR i understand trade value chart says late. Third let's 1069 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 4: stick to, that Right And that's that's what makes invaluable right, 1070 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 4: now is that you can get him For Dylan sampson 1071 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 4: or a late third or something like. That that's WHERE 1072 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 4: i want to buy. Me, PERSONALLY i like him more 1073 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 4: than most other. PEOPLE i THINK i have the like 1074 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 4: third highest rank out of all rankers on. Him SO 1075 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 4: i do Want Skyler bell. More i'm willing to pay, 1076 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: more BUT i am a. Psychopath everybody understands that wait 1077 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 4: till the late. Third if you can. TRADE i feel 1078 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 4: like what is presumed to be a late, third do 1079 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 4: that for. 1080 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: ME i would love. TO i don't know this is, 1081 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: doable But i'd love to do something like an anticipated 1082 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: late second in twenty twenty, eight as opposed, to you, 1083 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: know dealing from next year's, class just BECAUSE i think 1084 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: we're even going to get to the third round next. 1085 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: Year we're gonna be really excited about a lot of, 1086 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: names and that range is kind of at my. Expectation, 1087 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: Again so if you can do, That but if you 1088 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: could go to somebody and, say, hey it costs you 1089 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: a third rounder this year to get, Him i'll give 1090 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: you a second round or you just have to wait 1091 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: an extra year to get. It interested in doing THAT 1092 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: i wonder if there's a path there fits. You obviously 1093 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: kind of reacted To bogman saying he gave up a. 1094 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: SECOND i assume you wouldn't do. That but what do 1095 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: you see as? Affair not a? 1096 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 2: Second maybe mid to late third. 1097 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,439 Speaker 3: NEXT i don't. 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Avalanche 1170 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 2: my wife goes up to the upstairs office to go 1171 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 2: work on this big work, project and all of a 1172 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: sudden it starts getting a little. Closer i'm, like, okay 1173 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 2: nineteen points fourteen points midway through the third, Quarter i'm 1174 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: giving her these updates nine points and finally it's, like. 1175 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 4: Don't let her come back down the stag. 1176 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: Fly it's like. 1177 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 2: Four, points get down here and watch this with, me 1178 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 2: and she, does and you, know watch that amazing. 1179 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 3: Finish. 1180 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 4: THOUGH i was on the phone With welsh when that. 1181 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 4: HAPPENED i was, like they keep they just took the. 1182 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 4: Lead dude was. CRAZY i was at he was Like 1183 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 4: Charlie brown's parents in my. EARS i was not hearing. 1184 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 4: ANYTHING i was just watching the. 1185 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: TELEVISION i was at a you know bar trivia night 1186 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: and they had the game on THE tv there and 1187 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: one of the guys who was there for trivia at 1188 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 1: the table next to us was wearing A Monogenobili spurs 1189 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: jersey and watching the game through his. Eyes was a 1190 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: sight to. Behold. Imagine, yeah that was that WAS i 1191 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: ever roody for the Next, no he's he stayed and, 1192 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: uh you, know he even stayed like ten minutes after 1193 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: for me final. BUZZER i am getting out of. There 1194 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: he did kind of stick around until they've kind of 1195 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: wrapped up you, know trivia and, everything but. 1196 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 2: There, yeah either get out of there or start doing. 1197 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: Shots one or the. 1198 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 3: Other, yeah there's no middle. 1199 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: Ground all, right, guys let's wrap with a couple of 1200 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: tight ends to talk about. HERE i actually want to 1201 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: Do bogman's first because it's a really interesting, one and, then, 1202 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: uh probably a piece that's not going to cost too 1203 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: much The. Bogman who's your must have tight? 1204 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 4: End i'm gonna Say Darnell. Washington and it's because if 1205 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 4: you're rebuilding, specifically if you're in tight end, premium why 1206 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 4: not take a shot On Mount washington? Here, Man like 1207 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,399 Speaker 4: the tight ends Under mike McCarthy And dallas were tight 1208 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 4: end one every year except that last year When Jake 1209 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 4: ferguson was. Hurt twelfth and twenty twenty Was schultz he was, 1210 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 4: third and twenty one he was, tenth and twenty two 1211 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 4: he was, ninth and twenty three Was, ferguson and Then 1212 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: ferguson got hurt in twenty twenty. Four BUT i, Mean 1213 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 4: Donald washington has the size and. Speed we Heard mike 1214 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 4: McCarthy talking about him as an incredible move piece YESTERDAY 1215 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 4: i think it was or two days, ago whenever he 1216 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 4: was On. Mike but he cost you. Nothing right now 1217 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 4: here are the comparable. Players James, Connor, Ray Davis, Jarquez, 1218 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 4: Hunter Najee harris doesn't have a, Team Laquinn allen, Right, 1219 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 4: like these are the guys that it could cost, You Malik, 1220 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 4: Washington Rennan, Thompson SHAMIRI, Dk Christian. Kirk this is what 1221 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 4: it costs you For Darnell washington right, now and with 1222 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 4: his size and, SPEED i don't think he's ever going 1223 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 4: to be you know a guy that catches seventy five 1224 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 4: passes and has nine hundred, yards but he could have 1225 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 4: eight touchdowns without. Issue we could have ten touchdowns without 1226 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 4: issue because he's a monster and you could hand it 1227 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 4: to him in the. Backfield you could throw it to. 1228 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 4: Him he is going to box out like a power 1229 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 4: forward and tip it in like an og did. SO 1230 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 4: i mean this is this is an easy buy specifically 1231 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 4: if you're a rebuilding team in tight end. 1232 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 1: PREMIUM i don't know IF i would say easy. Buy 1233 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: BUT i had a stand roster it cost nothing. Better 1234 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: but sometimes those roster spots you do end up. Meeting that's. True, 1235 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: yeah you, say like why not take a chance On Mount? Washington, like, 1236 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: well maybe because he has like seventy career targets in three, 1237 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: Seasons LIKE i JUST. I. 1238 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah but this offense is going to get way more 1239 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 4: vertical with, McCarthy that's. True probably going to be different 1240 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 4: right specifically this year as, well probably going to Be 1241 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 4: pat as the main pass catcher And Mount washington out there. 1242 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 4: Blocking but if if they turn him, in and if 1243 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 4: you're in a tight end, premium and by the, way you, 1244 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 4: know like we, said the deeper your, benches the more 1245 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 4: you need to do, This i'll, say like and specifically 1246 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 4: in tight end. Premium but you, KNOW i wanted to 1247 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 4: try and find a new name, here and in tight end, 1248 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 4: Premium i'm going out for Donnot washington WHEREVER i Can. 1249 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: Bogwhan would you give up a fifth rounder next? Year? 1250 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 4: Fifth, YEAH i would give up a fifth rounder in 1251 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 4: any year for a player THAT i. Like, so even 1252 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 4: with all the upside of next, year that's a fifth round. 1253 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:28,919 Speaker 4: Pick who. 1254 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: CARES i don't THINK i would give up a fifth 1255 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: fifth rounder this. YEAR i think even in next year 1256 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: again with how deep it, is, like there's just not 1257 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: enough there for. Me fits do you? Disagree would you 1258 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: give up a fifth next? Year? 1259 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,919 Speaker 2: No, NO i just LIKE i find him On i'd 1260 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: rather Have Ray davis Or James Connor. Boggs i'm not 1261 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 2: just getting you back for The Christian watson, TAKE i. 1262 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: PROMISE i think he's just a really good, blocker AND 1263 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 2: i know he is, fast like pretty fast and. Athletics 1264 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 2: it's such a monstrous. DUDE i just don't think he's 1265 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 2: that good or risk. Receiver AND i don't think he 1266 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 2: was all that good a receiver At georgia. Either AND 1267 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: i Know Thorne, eystrom like in some of his scouting 1268 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 2: reports suggested that maybe he had some like he didn't 1269 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Think Darnel washington was all that good a pass catcher At. 1270 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: GEORGIA i JUST i don't think he's ever going to 1271 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 2: be a guy you would feel good about starting in 1272 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 2: any week THAT. 1273 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 4: I think they should let him. 1274 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Do the toush push comes down to. 1275 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 2: That but, honestly like it wouldn't shock me if he 1276 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: spiked like a seven touchdown season one. YEAR i just 1277 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: don't think he's ever going to give you enough catches 1278 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 2: or yardage to convince you he's worth putting in your starting. 1279 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Lineup, YEAH i wonder what world in Which i'm ever 1280 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: like he is my best starting option at this position 1281 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: in any given. See so, yeah let's go to a 1282 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: target at tight end THAT i think people actually will 1283 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: be interested. In which is your final player? 1284 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Here also another very, athletic kind of deep dive tight. 1285 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 2: End It's tyler or excuse, Me Terrence, ferguson second round 1286 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 2: pick of The rams in twenty twenty. Five didn't do 1287 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 2: all that much for The rams last, year only eleven 1288 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: catches on twenty five, targets but he averaged twenty one 1289 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 2: yards per, catch had two hundred and thirty one yards 1290 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 2: and three. Touchdowns and when he did get the, BALL 1291 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 2: i mean like the catches he did, make like you 1292 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 2: saw what he is capable. Of AND i think there's 1293 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 2: a little bit of a buying opportunity now that The 1294 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 2: rams have added yet another tight end to their bonfire 1295 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 2: of tight ends that they've got. Going they Drafted Max 1296 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 2: claire in the second. Round now they've Got Max, Claire Terrence, 1297 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 2: Ferguson Colby, Parkinson Tyler, higbee And Davis. 1298 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: Allen so it's pretty. 1299 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Muddled although The rams did have insane production collectively from 1300 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 2: their tight ends last, year one hundred and fifty, targets 1301 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and three, catches one and twenty eight, yards 1302 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 2: seventeen touchdowns and after this, Year Davis allen And Kolby 1303 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: parkinson their contracts are. Done Tyler higbee is in his 1304 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: thirties and has two years, left so we just need 1305 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 2: to boil this down a little bit To Terrence ferguson 1306 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 2: And Max clare and now we're cooking with. 1307 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Gas SO i would love. 1308 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: To See ferguson as send to a spot where he 1309 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 2: starts getting meaningful target shaars Before Matthew stafford, leaves because 1310 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 2: one year of Like ferguson in an enhanced role With 1311 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,919 Speaker 2: stafford would be really. 1312 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Nice BUT i just want to bet on the talent. 1313 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Here this guy's an athletic freak who UH i think 1314 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 2: had a thirty nine inch vertical jump in four to 1315 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 2: six speed four point sixty three speed at six five 1316 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 2: and a half two hundred and forty seven. Pounds so, 1317 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean they liked him enough to draft him 1318 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 2: in the middle of the second round last. 1319 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 3: YEAR i think this guy's got a bright. 1320 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: FUTURE i really Like. FERGUSON i like the point you made, 1321 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: about like you, know the drafting Of claire Will i'll 1322 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: depress some of his value in the EYES i mean 1323 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot of his value in the eyes of, people 1324 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 1: WHICH i think really. Helps i'm still very interested in 1325 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: buying him tight end twenty one right now in Consensus 1326 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: dynasty rankings eighteen months from. NOW i don't see any reason. 1327 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: WHY i, mean it might not, happen of, course BUT 1328 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: i think there's a world where he's inside the top. 1329 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Twelve he's not gonna be inside like the top, FIVE 1330 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: i don't, Think but you, know a low end tight 1331 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: end one who is currently going as like a late 1332 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: tight end two in dynasty drafts and. Rankings LIKE i 1333 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: like the player a, LOT i like the team a, 1334 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: lot AND i am more OPTIMISTIC i think than the 1335 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: market would show that he will get an. Opportunity AND 1336 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: i know the response is, like, well look at all 1337 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the tight ends on the, Team BUT i just think 1338 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: he's good and like you, said that room is going 1339 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: to clear out a bit in the next you, know, 1340 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: year year and a. Half SO i Like ferguson quite a. 1341 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Bit he's in a range of tight ends THAT i do. 1342 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of kind of lottery Tickets i'd 1343 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: be interested, in but he's probably my favorite in this 1344 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: kind of around tight end twenty ish. Range, bogmin where 1345 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: are you at On ferguson right, Now, YEAH. 1346 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 4: I have him in a tier higher Than Darnolt washington, 1347 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 4: obviously BUT. 1348 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I have multiple tiers, higher no just one. 1349 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 4: TIER i think there's a lot of. UPSIDE i think 1350 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 4: That ferguson costs you way, more BUT i still think 1351 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 4: the cost is not that. Much right you look at 1352 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 4: the trade value, chart he's in the range like if 1353 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 4: you're looking at wide, receivers it's Like Travis hunter And 1354 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,479 Speaker 4: Chris godwin And Antonio williams And Jeremy, Bernard Kay Sham, 1355 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 4: Booty Isaac, tesla Right, LIKE i like those upside shots 1356 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 4: are all decent upside shots kind of in the same, 1357 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 4: vein kind of as in the same. Vein BUT i 1358 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 4: REALLY i think you expect upside From, ferguson Whereas washington 1359 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 4: is an absolute lottery. Ticket SO i think they're much 1360 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 4: higher expectations For, ferguson as there should. Be it's just 1361 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 4: not going to be for twenty. Six it's going to 1362 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 4: be beyond twenty. Six both these tight, ends, though are 1363 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 4: for our future. 1364 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Plays i'll tell you what tight end lottery ticket like 1365 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a little better Than, washington by the, way to circle 1366 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: back to that one spot lower Than washington and the 1367 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,919 Speaker 1: experts say rankings of the. Position Ben, sinnett that's one 1368 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: WHERE i could at least see the cases like the 1369 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: lottery ticket there more so Than. WASHINGTON i had to 1370 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: just have another call out, there given that he is A. 1371 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: Steeler washington is all. Right, yeah we'll go ahead and 1372 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: wrap things up. There thanks everybody for checking out our 1373 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: must Have dynasty targets For bogman And. Fits I'm Ryan. 1374 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Warmley thanks for tuning. In we'll see again next. Time 1375 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to The Fantasy Pros Dynasty football. 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