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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman.

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Speaker 2: This is a production of the bear Grease podcast called

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Speaker 2: the Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast,

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Speaker 2: presented by f h F Gear, American Maid, purpose built

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Speaker 2: hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged

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Speaker 2: as the place.

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Speaker 3: As we explore, that is a heck of a lineup

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Speaker 3: of coonskin hat.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: Last render that we talked about, Crockett, I had everybody

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Speaker 2: wear a coonskin hat. Would anybody like to wear a

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Speaker 2: coonskin hat?

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Speaker 4: I was actually going to bring my own. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't, you know, I didn't know the quality

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Speaker 4: of y'all's hats.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, mediocre at mediocre at this.

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Speaker 4: I just I didn't want to be outmatched on coonskin.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the guy who made those coonskin hats could not

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Speaker 3: be trusted. So I hear, I hear rumored that he's

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Speaker 3: got four more that he's been making for about six months.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do something with these hats at some point.

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Speaker 2: And hey, speaking of coon hides. Last night, two nights ago,

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Speaker 2: I had two dogs. I had so I have a

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Speaker 2: squirrel dog. That runs loose all the time. Tim he

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Speaker 2: is the most responsive dog to human mind, will and

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Speaker 2: emotion that.

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Speaker 1: I've ever been around.

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Speaker 2: Like you can be like thinking something and kind of

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Speaker 2: glance over to it, and he'll be like, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about that. Like he's just he's hyperune. He's hyper

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Speaker 2: in tune, like ridiculously intune. So he runs around and

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Speaker 2: he's normal. My my really good squirrel dog is so good.

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Speaker 2: I can't let her run loose because she'll just hunt

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Speaker 2: herself to death or end up, you know, running off.

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Speaker 5: She gets treated on things for hours at a time

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Speaker 5: every time she's off.

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Speaker 2: So a few days ago I turned her loose just

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Speaker 2: to let her run. In the summer, I just let

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Speaker 2: her run. And I like to keep my neighbors in check.

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Speaker 2: I like for dogs to just be treed for hours,

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Speaker 2: just like close to the house, just to let people

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Speaker 2: know that this is not suburbia.

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Speaker 6: Just when they when you think they're gonna start showing up.

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Speaker 2: To right when they think they're gonna start paving the

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Speaker 2: and stuff. I want people to come down here and

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Speaker 4: Have you ever had one of your dog's tree to

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Speaker 4: squirrel down here at the marina, like two hundred yards

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Speaker 4: down the road to see, yes, where the sailboat is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why we like to keep this place

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Speaker 2: I've got. We've got some boats on our road far

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Speaker 4: R that's when you know you're living right.

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Speaker 2: So I had Tests running loose, and she's my good

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Speaker 2: squirrel dog, and about thirty minutes before dark, two nights ago,

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Speaker 2: I hear both of them just on a hot track

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Speaker 2: and get treed, and they're up here in what I

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Speaker 2: call the possum funnel I've got on this land that

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Speaker 2: Those dogs tree possums in like one spot and there's

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Speaker 2: no rhyme or reason.

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Speaker 1: There's no big den trees.

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Speaker 2: But if they get treed and it's on a possum,

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Speaker 2: which they treat a lot of possums, they'll tree within

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Speaker 2: a fifty yard radius. I don't understand why they always

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Speaker 2: treat there. But Tim was treed hard. Tests was right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was just beautiful tree and I was

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Speaker 2: I told Bear John my Son, I said, how about

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in shoot. And so I went out

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Speaker 2: just am trying to retrieve my dogs. Take my twenty

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Speaker 1: Now we've had a serious.

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Speaker 2: Predation to spring on our trees. And I go out

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Speaker 2: incredibly bushy tree. I didn't think I was going to

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Speaker 2: see it, Brent, And sure enough there's a coon there,

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Speaker 2: which is the first time they treat a coon TI

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Speaker 2: squirrel dog. He is, he should be Tim the possum dog.

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Speaker 2: He loves possums more than anything. You can hear it

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Speaker 1: The possums.

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Speaker 2: Squirrels are a distant second, pack rats are third, and

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Speaker 2: number four is a coon. And anyway, speaking of coonskin hats,

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Speaker 2: and I shot that coon out.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there's another angle to this story. We're

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Speaker 5: sitting inside and Bear really wants to start a business,

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Speaker 5: and he and I are talking official business. We're talking

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Speaker 5: about paperwork and what taxes would look like and all

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Speaker 5: this kind of stuff, and we're having this real, in

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Speaker 5: depth conversation. We're on computers, googling on the couch and

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Speaker 5: Clay walks in with a coon in his hands, a

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Speaker 5: dead coon in the dogs, and we look up and

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Speaker 5: I don't even I don't even pause. It's like, ye,

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Speaker 5: Clay's got a coon in the house again. It took

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Speaker 5: me a couple of take before I realized, Shoot, you've

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Speaker 7: Are dead. It was dead by those dead and the dogs.

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Speaker 5: He wanted to get a picture with him and the

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Speaker 7: You could tell they're pre pumped up.

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Speaker 8: Here's something I'm taking from this. I don't I don't

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Speaker 8: know if y'all anybody else here. When he first he

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Speaker 8: said bear John, go out there and kill that kill

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Speaker 6: He says, I have no interest in it. Had he

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Speaker 6: told me that and I was talking to my mom

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Speaker 8: Would like to say him went through the wall.

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Speaker 3: Not Baron newkem Man, that guy.

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Speaker 6: So I'm telling you this.

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Speaker 3: He put hard sell on me this week for some

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Speaker 3: to win it right now.

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Speaker 6: That's that's good stuff right there. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have a we have a We've got

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Speaker 2: some regulars on the podcast, but we have Joe is

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Speaker 2: not really an irregular.

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Speaker 1: Joe's been.

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Speaker 3: To be determined.

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Speaker 1: Is I've known Joe for many years?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, And Joe was on the Bear Hunting Magazine

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Speaker 2: pop podcast way back o g Yeah and uh and

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Speaker 2: Joe was on the Arkansas Image podcast that I did.

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Speaker 2: If you remember when I went to the Walton the

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Speaker 2: the Walmart Museum with the hologram. Joe was kind of

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Speaker 2: my guide there. So you've heard Joe's voice if you're

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Speaker 7: He's been on the Bease more than Josh has.

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Speaker 8: I was just going to say he was on the

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Speaker 8: original Bear Grease and you never were, were.

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Speaker 1: You, Josh?

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Speaker 3: I've never been on Bear Grease. I was on the

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Speaker 3: Bear Hunting Magazine podcast mainly because it'd be like, I

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Speaker 3: don't have any other content spillmaker.

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Speaker 2: Here, Joe, how do you how do you introduce yourself

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Speaker 2: to people? If you if you have the open mic?

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Speaker 4: Well, if I had an open mic, I'd introduced myself

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Speaker 4: as a father of two, a husband of one. I've

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Speaker 4: got two dogs right now. It's driving me crazy. I

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Speaker 4: just got a new puppy a week ago, so I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm the little bloodshot in the eye. But what was

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Speaker 4: the saying that Dave Crockett said?

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Speaker 1: He said that he about an accident.

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Speaker 4: No about his Yeah, about the accident.

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Speaker 2: Well, he just said that his fame came on him

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Speaker 2: completely by accident.

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Speaker 4: And so my fame has come on me completely by accident. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know McLay knows this story, and I doubt the

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Speaker 4: listeners do. But I throw the World Champion Squirrel Cookoff

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Speaker 4: here in northwest Arkansas, and it come to me straight

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Speaker 4: up by accident.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we got it, Okay, listeners out there, he just

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Speaker 2: dropped the bomb. Joe is the founder of the one

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Speaker 2: and only World Championship.

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Speaker 4: Squirrel Cookoff, and it come to me by accident.

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Speaker 1: Tell me tell me that.

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Speaker 4: So I was working in downtown Bentonville, and uh, for

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Speaker 4: it's it's kind of like a Norman Rockwell painting. It's uh,

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Speaker 4: brick buildings, old buildings. It's where the retail giant started

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Speaker 4: of Walmart. And I become sociable with a lot of

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Speaker 4: downtown Bentonville cornered me one day and she said that

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Speaker 4: Andrew Zimmern from Bizarre Foods had contacted them and they

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Speaker 4: wanted to do the Ozark condition. And I was the

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Speaker 4: so this is a week after our football coach Bobby

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Speaker 4: or Bobby Patrina. Bobby Patrina had had a little accident.

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Speaker 6: Heard around the world exactly.

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Speaker 4: He had had a little accident, and so they do.

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Speaker 4: So they started questioning me on things they wanted to see.

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Speaker 4: And they wanted to see a rabbit hunt and I

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Speaker 4: said I can do that. And they wanted to do

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Speaker 4: that covered, and they said, we want to do a

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Speaker 4: eat crow. Now, now, mind you, this is a week

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Speaker 4: And I said, ma'am, you're mistaken. I said, we really

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Speaker 4: don't eat a lot of crow. Matter of fact, we

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Speaker 4: don't eat any And she said, no, sir, our research

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Speaker 4: says that people in Arkansas eat crow. And I said, well,

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Speaker 4: I've cooked crow before and we ate it. But we'd

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Speaker 4: so we could cook crow. And they said, what about squirrel.

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Speaker 4: Do you do squirrel? Oh yes, ma'am, I said, matter

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Speaker 4: of fact, we cook the world champion squirrel. And she says,

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Speaker 4: how do you know, And I said, because we throw

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Speaker 4: the World championship. She said when is it? I said,

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Speaker 4: when y'all coming? He didn't.

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Speaker 1: Is that when it started?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, she said like August eleventh, And I said

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Speaker 4: you know what and she said, no kidding. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's when it is. And so as soon as I

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Speaker 4: got off the phone, I started scrambling.

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Speaker 1: And what was the date? Approximately?

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Speaker 4: It was in August of two thousand.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that she was called in August she called, Oh,

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Speaker 3: Just right down the road for me.

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Speaker 2: And what's the name of that facility. I've been there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and John L. Let Me Center Nature Center.

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Speaker 2: Very very it's like awesome, multi gazillion dollar outdoor facility.

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Speaker 4: the Jackson squirrel Rifle and it's named after Clifton.

437
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Speaker 6: Uh.

438
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Speaker 4: He's been in charge of small game for several years

439
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: here in the state of Arkansas.

440
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Speaker 1: How fast can you clean a squirrel?

441
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Speaker 4: Well, this isn't the squirrel like your dog's been treeing

442
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: out here. This is a squirrel that's been inside my

443
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: freezer for a long time, and so it's semi thawed squirrel.

444
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 6: Yea.

445
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: And we give you a knife, and we've had people

446
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 4: assist by using their teeth whatever it takes to get

447
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: through this deal. I can't tell you how fast he was.

448
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 4: The fast you let me.

449
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: Ask you this. Do you have to use a knife?

450
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Speaker 2: Could I bring another implement? You could competition?

451
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Speaker 4: You could. The rules on this deal is hopefully you

452
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Speaker 4: bring your own knife and hopefully you bring your own

453
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Speaker 4: glove to keep you from cutting the finger off of

454
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Speaker 4: because I don't want to be responsible for that. So

455
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: we've got that event and.

456
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Speaker 1: Because I don't use a knife.

457
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 7: He's very competitive.

458
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 4: I could see it bowling out right now.

459
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: Mine.

460
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying I'm the fastest in the world.

461
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 7: He has competed.

462
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: I'd be right on. I'd be hot on.

463
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Speaker 8: That guy looks a whole lot like, yeah, that's.

464
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: Exactly what do you know.

465
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 4: I've been listening to this show since it started, and

466
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: that's probably the least humble I've ever heard.

467
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 7: When he was run in the back kind of yeah.

468
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's just some things that avout confidence.

469
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Speaker 4: So the other event is the World's Hottest Squirrel wing

470
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Speaker 4: eating Competition.

471
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Speaker 1: Taste.

472
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is, yeah, pepper hot. This is We

473
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 4: take the hind quarters of the squirrel and bread them

474
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 4: up deep fry and then we pour molten lava of

475
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 4: some Carolina reaper and whatever else somebody grew in their

476
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: guard set. Yeah, and uh, that's a hilarious event to

477
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 4: sit there and watch. So we'll have live music.

478
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: Let me describe and you can fill it in. But

479
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: like when I've been there before, it wasn't at this venue.

480
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: But if you have a team, which you could, anybody

481
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: could have a team, you bet so, So if you're

482
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Speaker 2: from wherever you're from, how do they how would they register?

483
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: So about the time this show airs on our Facebook

484
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Speaker 4: page World champions Squirrel Cookoff Facebook page, there will be

485
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: the registry information and we are going to limit it

486
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Speaker 4: to forty teams. Real well, it's tortuous to our to

487
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: our judges and forty because.

488
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Speaker 1: So only forty teams can compete only forty sure they vetted?

489
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Speaker 1: Are they vetted? Or is just like first come.

490
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 4: First come, first serving? And Misty, I know you're a

491
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 4: heck of a cook, right you.

492
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

493
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 4: I ad some slight average, some strawberry kicks you move,

494
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: and if you added a little squirrel to that, you

495
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 4: might have a fighting chance of winning a squirrel Currently,

496
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: how many world championships do you hold?

497
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Speaker 7: You know, I don't think I hold a world championship

498
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Speaker 7: in anything.

499
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: There would be nothing prouder that'd make a Humble Clay

500
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: if he was to introduce as So, our event is

501
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: set up to where you got to do a entree

502
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: and a side dish. Okay, and eighty percent of the

503
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: meat used inside of your squirrel entree has to be squirrel.

504
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: So that's not eighty percent of your overall dish, that's

505
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the week.

506
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Speaker 7: Did you say that loud?

507
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 6: Here?

508
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Speaker 3: We go.

509
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Hey, the dishes that they have will blow your mind.

510
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: Squirrel jello, I mean, oh with grapes in it.

511
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I was.

512
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna describe you would you would come to

513
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: this event, and there would be if you have a team,

514
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 2: if you're one of the forty teams, you would have

515
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: a booth, ye, and there would be time frames during

516
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: the day when you had to have meals cooked. But

517
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: you also cook kind of for the public for whatever

518
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: you want.

519
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be squirrel. If

520
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: you've got to get porcupine recipe, you're more than welcome.

521
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: And people are just kind of wandering around talking to

522
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: the show. It's always real fun to just go around

523
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: and just ask like what are you cooking? And you know,

524
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people I've never seen more squirrel costumes

525
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: and like get up from people, just random people, not

526
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: even not even the cooks, just people.

527
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 5: It's kind of like when Star Wars comes out, it's

528
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: like the hillbilly version.

529
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: Yes, Squirrel, I guess I need to start making some squirrel.

530
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Hat, squirrels, squirrel costumes.

531
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Speaker 4: Come squirrel.

532
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so glad I bought instead of rended.

533
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: So Cy right as you're walking around. If you're a

534
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: people watcher, like I know we all are, it is

535
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: the perfect place to pull up a chair and sit

536
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: and stare at what's showed up at this deal. Because

537
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: we've had teams from as far away as the Netherlands.

538
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Wow, we even have squirrels.

539
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm not real sure I'll come here to cook them,

540
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: but uh, we've had teams from the Netherlands. We've had

541
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: a couple of female bankers from New York City. Oh wow,

542
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: who brought them in? We get West Coast teams. We've

543
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: had teams from Canada. We had a judge from Italy.

544
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: It's really come to do this. And so why I'm

545
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: saying this is this ain't no joke. This is the

546
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: real deal. When we crown you as a world champion.

547
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: You're the world tenter.

548
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: You should never serve that squirrel on a paper plate.

549
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 6: Again, That's what I'm talking.

550
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: It's fine China. So you're doing an entree in a

551
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: side dish, and your side dish should pair with your

552
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: entree and a.

553
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: Couple of what variety of wine goes best with it.

554
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: It matters how you cook the squirrel. I mean, got

555
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: a start, but we had up until a couple of

556
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: years ago. It was kind of blind. I give you

557
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: a styrophoam box. You put your groceries in there, it

558
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: turn it into the judges. And then I'd open up

559
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: the box and give them to the judges and they'd say,

560
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: what is this. I'd say, I have no idea squirrel,

561
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: and uh so, now we give the teams the opportunity

562
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: they put a three by five card inside that box

563
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: and it'll describe what dish they've turned in, because if

564
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 4: you know what it's supposed to be, it'll kind of

565
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: taste like that, right, right. And how many judges are there,

566
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: So we'll have twelve judges swell, six on one side,

567
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: six on the other each judge. You know, we have

568
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: an odd set of judges in an even set. So

569
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: depending on what your turn in token says, if you're

570
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: number two, you go on the right side. If you're

571
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: number one, you go on the left because it is

572
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: torture man. When you've got twenty dishes, that's an entree

573
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: in a side, and there's a chance you'll have a

574
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: number eight shot in any of that.

575
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you.

576
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: Know, you got an orthodontist on the tumba, and so

577
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: it's it's a workout to eat it, and as a judge,

578
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: you sign up to eat everything we throw in front

579
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: of you and judge it fairly. So most cooking competitions,

580
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: if it's chili or brisket or steaks or whatever you're doing,

581
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: everybody's in the same realm. So it's real easy to

582
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: pick the best brisket from that day. This everything's different,

583
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: So we judge you on your own merit. If you

584
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: make a squirrel meat loaf, well, we're judging on what

585
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: we want as our best meat loaf, and how close

586
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: you come to that moral.

587
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, don't make squirrel meat looaf for the

588
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 5: Champion Chip cook Coffee.

589
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 7: You're not gonna win that thing.

590
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: Well, you know, squirrel squirrel meatballs placed really well in

591
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: the ask.

592
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Can you give us a couple of examples of stuff

593
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: that's one? I mean, it's it's stuff that you just

594
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: would never dream of.

595
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: Oh man, Uh, we've had Mexican dishes do really well. Yeah,

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: I'll just put it to you that way. We've had

597
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 4: a lot of Mexican dishes work out. We've had a

598
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: lot of Italian dishes work out really well.

599
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 7: So squirrel. Squirrel does well with tomato.

600
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: Well, squirrel is the tofu of the woods, so it'll

601
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: gather whatever flavor profile you throw at it.

602
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: And I can.

603
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: When I was there, and I'm trying to remember, but

604
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: there was one there was one group that their whole

605
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: thing was to make a Chick fil A sandwich.

606
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: I disqualified them. Really yeah, why, well, because our rules

607
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: are simple. One hundred percent of the preparation of this

608
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: dish has take place on site and there's no marination.

609
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: There's no prep work done. And to make that Chick

610
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: fil A sandwich, that means you had to marinate it

611
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: in pickle juice. That's the secret to the Chick fil

612
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 4: a chicken is the pickle juice.

613
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: Well, the just as an example though, even though this

614
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: team got disqualified, I didn't realize that these guys.

615
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Like their booth looked like a Chick fil A booth.

616
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: I love it, and they and they made on Sundays

617
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: the same little.

618
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

619
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: It was good, you know. They made a little Chick

620
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: fil A deal and that was their thing. There was

621
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: a lot of Asian dishes.

622
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

623
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: The b h A guys that I agree got there.

624
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: They they made.

625
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: Like squirrel nachos, and we're feeding them to people all day.

626
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: Is it byo squirrel?

627
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: It is man, That's part of the game. So the

628
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: game is is to get people back in the outdoors,

629
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: and so squirrel is not a commodity we can go

630
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: to the grocery store and purchase. Ironically, I know Steve

631
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: Ranella was just on CBS Sunday Morning and he was

632
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: what the Martha Steward of.

633
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 7: The Julia Child.

634
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: So I'll throw my humbleness out here. I beat Steve

635
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 4: Vanella onto CBS Sunday Morning. I was on it years

636
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: before he was, and I was the first guy. You know,

637
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: at the end of CBS Sunday Morning, there's a majestic

638
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: scene of like a moose blowing steam out of its

639
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: nostrils or an old blue herring just tiptoeing through the water.

640
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: They got me to be the first guy to shoot

641
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: at something. And so I'm sitting on Spavanack Creek on

642
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: a lawn chair, and about three feet from me is

643
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: this dude from Seattle, Washington, and they brought their little

644
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: goon with them who was from Manhattan, not Kansas. And

645
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: the little guy's writing on a card, handing it to

646
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: the guy to ask me the questions. And they're trying

647
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: to burn down my house, I could promise. As we're

648
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: sitting there there, they're trying to get people.

649
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: What are they interviewing you about the check?

650
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 6: The squirrel cooking?

651
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: Why we would kill something if we could go to

652
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: the grocery store and just buy it, and uh, you know,

653
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: your standard questions that come to a hunter from somebody

654
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: who's not a hunter. And one of the questions was,

655
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 4: surely you eat fast food? And I said, yes, sir man,

656
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: I said, an antelope will do forty three, you know.

657
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: And so I was one up and them. That was

658
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: the game I was playing. So down the creek about

659
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 4: one hundred yards walks out this little old gray squirrel

660
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 4: to take a drink of that cool spring water. And

661
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: the little man from Manhattan, he says, could you shoot

662
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: that squirrel at that distance? I said, oh, yeah, in

663
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: the face. And so I lean up on this tree.

664
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: And I'd been I'd done some TV. I'd done to

665
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: Andrew Zimmerndial. I had never been around a camera like

666
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 4: these guys camera. I don't know what HD they were,

667
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: but it was more than we got at my house,

668
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 4: you know, And so they got two cameras in front

669
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 4: of me, one behind me, that great big umbrella that's lit,

670
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: and they said, whenever you're ready, And so I breathe

671
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: in one paw, I shoot and I've killed hundreds upon

672
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: hundreds of squirrels. I had never killed one like this

673
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: that was ready for TV. As that bullet just barely

674
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: nicked him. He goes and like a three toed sloth,

675
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: this thing is grasping at stones, crawling, playing it up

676
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: for the movies. And the guy says, what are you feeling?

677
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: What's your emotions? I said, I'm pretty upset, he said

678
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 4: about wounding that animal. Man, I missed it clean. I said,

679
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: I'm upset because I don't get to cook it for you.

680
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: And my mind's just running through on every excuse I

681
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: could come up with, because I thought, the day this airs,

682
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: it's the last day I'm gonna be able to walk

683
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 4: into my house, you know. And they cut it. They

684
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: cut it out, and the show actually turned out really good.

685
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: So whenever I whenever I heard Steve Rondella was on

686
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: that show, and I thought, yeah, I was on there too,

687
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: They about about burned down my house.

688
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: Man, Well, Brent, can we get a commitment from you

689
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: to be at the World Championship.

690
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: Squirrel cook on, let me do this. I've got seat

691
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: number one over there on the left hand side that

692
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: I'll put you down in the judging spot if you'll

693
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: accept it.

694
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 6: I'm there, pal, I got you, mark it down.

695
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: This is big game and Fish just auctioned off one

696
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: of these on the foundation deal.

697
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh really a spot as a jezz.

698
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: I think they got like four hundred.

699
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be a job.

700
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 6: Gosh, absolutely, I'll be honored.

701
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: To Yeah, man, we'll be honored to have you. Yeah,

702
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: I know that you come qualified.

703
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. I come from a long line of squirrel eaters

704
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 6: and killers. Yeah.

705
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so hey expect this. If you're coming from a

706
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: long distance, you should probably look for your hotel room

707
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: because we've got multiple things happening that weekend, and so

708
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: go ahead and get you a hotel. The event starts

709
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: at nine in the morning, should be wrapped up by

710
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 4: about four thirty, but we'll keep you busy all day

711
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: looking and laughing.

712
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Does it cost money to get in Clay?

713
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: I would never charge anybody for a good time, and

714
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: so no, it's free.

715
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: That's incredible, that's great, man. Okay, I will most likely

716
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: be there.

717
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: Are we going to have opportunity to eat squirrel just

718
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: as a participant?

719
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? So oh go ahead, Oh go ahead, missus.

720
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: How long do they have to prepare it if they

721
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: can't prepare anything off site?

722
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: So what we do is first thing in the morning,

723
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: about eight o'clock, we'll have a meeting of the teams

724
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: and we'll once again go through all the rules and regulations.

725
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: At eight point thirty, I'm going to send my meat

726
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: inspectors around and this is to make sure there's no

727
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: contraband squirrel inside them coolers. You know, don't be fooling

728
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: me with some rabbits. And so also test the meat

729
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: to make sure that it's forty or under, okay, because

730
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: there's a chance you're going to eat it. Now when

731
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: you come and sample something, you're playing this game at

732
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: your own risk. So we inspect. At nine o'clock, the

733
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: team's fired up and they could cook on any heat source.

734
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 4: So if you want to cook on a coal and stove,

735
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: that's fine. If you want to cook on a ten

736
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: thousand dollars smoker that you won the Texas Brisket Competition

737
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 4: in you're more than welcome to cook on that. You can.

738
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: You can fry it, you can bake it, you could

739
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: roast it, you name it. We've even had squirrel sushi.

740
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: We've had squirrel ice cream. The desserts are kind of

741
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: out there.

742
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 8: The hardest part about smoking a squirrel is keeping him lit'right,

743
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 8: that's right. You got to bite off the end of

744
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 8: it first.

745
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 6: That's it. That's the truth.

746
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 4: And uh, we hope to have if if anybody's listening

747
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: and they have something, a group or somebody that needs

748
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: a little bit of support, you can contact me and

749
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: maybe we could get your booth set up at that

750
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: deal as well.

751
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: So you'll have some vendors, got to have some yeah,

752
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: local people, vendors and organizations.

753
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 4: Y'all know, if we lose one generation of hunters where

754
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: we're at as a country, we're in trouble. And so

755
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: y'all show and everybody who does it the right way

756
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: is doing God's work on this deal, because we're just

757
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: a boat. We're inches away from losing our kids in

758
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: the outdoors. And and so if I could help promote

759
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: our youth in the outdoors, if I could help bring

760
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: back an old timer that used to love squirrel hunting,

761
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 4: if I could get him drug back out in the woods,

762
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: then it's worth it because I could guarantee you, Clay,

763
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: I ain't never made a penny on this deal, and

764
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell my wife what we haven't

765
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: had because of it. So it's that important. And seeing

766
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: these urban people show up and have their nose pointed

767
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: up in the air when they get there, and by

768
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: the end of it you watch them walking around nibbling

769
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: on a squirrel leg or something. It's it's that's my

770
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: success story.

771
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 6: Man.

772
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I think what you're doing, Joe.

773
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I've called you a hero before for putting

774
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: this thing on it.

775
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean I I absolutely love it.

776
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: Just like Dave Crockett. I stepped into this deal by accident,

777
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: but it's given me some opportunities. You know. I was

778
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: telling Brent earlier that I've got a nonprofit organization that

779
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: we travel around the country and we feed firefighters, police officers,

780
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: first responders a Ribby steak dinner. And that's off of bovine,

781
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: that's not off.

782
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Of a squirrel and squirrel ribbint.

783
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 4: We've made forty thousand Ribby Steak dinners across the country.

784
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 6: That's amazing to steaks for sheep.

785
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: Steaks for sheep dogs. And our goal is to show community.

786
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: You could not get along with somebody. There's certain people

787
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: in this country you may not like, but you'll eat

788
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: at their restaurant. Breaking bread is really the secret to

789
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: neighbors and friendships and all that. And we can always

790
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: have a meal and work out our issues. That's whenever

791
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: your guard's down, whenever you're eating especially good food. And

792
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: so six years ago in Dallas, Texas, a bad guy

793
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: showed up. He killed a bunch of police officers. I've

794
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: seen an opportunity for me to slide in there and

795
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 4: try to make a change, and we've helped people. We'll

796
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: never win the fight. It's impossible to make everybody appreciate

797
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: that we have sheep dogs out there taking care of us.

798
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: People are going to dislike people regardless. But I know

799
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: whenever our team shows up and we put smiles on faces,

800
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: and every time you've spoken to people, whether it be

801
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: at church or on one of your adventures, there'll be

802
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: somebody will call you and say I needed that that day,

803
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: you know. And that's that's my trophy. Is we'll leave

804
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 4: a community and I'll get a phone call and there'll

805
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: be someone I've known ever met before, say you don't

806
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: know where I was at that day, And when you

807
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: showed up and fed us, it gave me a clear

808
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: view that we're still together as a country. And I'm

809
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 4: not saying I've saved anybody. I just know that we've

810
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: touched hearts through Rebby steaks, some really good mashed potatoes,

811
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: and some dang good green beans.

812
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: Man, that's incredible steaks, steaks for shooting. Yes, sir, that's

813
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: awesome man.

814
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. And and you know it's we're

815
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: one hundred percent volunteer organization. I don't know how how

816
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 4: I have the gas money to show up here today,

817
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: because everything I do is for free, you know. But

818
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: we're born with the with the last name. It's kind

819
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 4: of our brand. And I've listened to your stories about

820
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: your boy being left out in the woods and and

821
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 4: all that. Well he's a new com and uh, I've

822
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: got a last name of Wilson. And so I pointed,

823
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: given my kids a solid foundation, a brand name, my

824
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: last name given to my kids should be able to

825
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: give them some opportunity to where people would know Joe

826
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: was a good old boy. So maybe that acron didn't

827
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: fall far from the tree on his son or his daughter.

828
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: And I don't know if this is gonna work or not,

829
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna give them the easiest path to people

830
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: believing and if they say it, they're gonna do it.

831
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I stand on that deal.

832
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

833
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: Hey tell us about uh and this isn't the sales

834
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: pitch for Joe's spice thing, but it is wilson sauce.

835
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: Tell me about I've got questions. Joe just handed me

836
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: a bottle when I left left him the other day

837
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is this and he said,

838
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: put it on anything, it'll taste good, and.

839
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: Ma'am, it does. Wilson Shire sauce as a craft Worcestershre sauce.

840
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: See you had a hard time saying it too.

841
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

842
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

843
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 4: So I woke up one morning, same show, CBS Sunday Morning,

844
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: and uh, they had the top five hardest words for

845
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: an American to say. One of them was squirrel and

846
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: I already had that covered. And the other one was

847
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: that Worcestershire, Right, I.

848
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: Really, I thought I said it really pretty good.

849
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: There, Worcestershire and Uh, So I thought, well, maybe I

850
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: could do better. So I read the label on that

851
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 4: leand parines and I went to three different grocery stores,

852
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 4: bought some stuff, and it kind of looked like a lab.

853
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: Inside the house, I kicked everybody out and said, leave

854
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: me alone. I'm inventing something. And uh, in my shop,

855
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: I've got a fermentation refrigerator like most of us do.

856
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: And uh.

857
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: I filled a big old jar full of a concoction.

858
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 4: And about a month I went out there and looked

859
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 4: at it and didn't look right. Second month, the heck,

860
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: it looked even worse. Third month, it had grown big

861
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: skin over the top and I hit it with a blender,

862
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: took a tablespoon of it, drank it, set in my chair,

863
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: woke up in the morning and I hadn't died. That

864
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: made me hungry, and so I bottled twenty bottles of it.

865
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: I sent it around the country to people that I

866
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 4: knew would appreciate it. And Mark Lambert, who's a seven

867
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: time world champion of barbecue. I gave him a bottle

868
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: and he won an event with it, and he says,

869
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: I need more. I says, you're in trouble. It takes

870
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: three months to make it, and after about two years

871
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: of him prodding me, we made Wilsonshire a commercial thing

872
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: and we've sold thousands of bottles of it. But you know,

873
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: right here in the state of Arkansas, we've got towns

874
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: and spice and supply and they're out of Melbourne, Arkansas,

875
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: a little small place, and they make all the rest

876
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: of my seasonings. And I brought you all some seasonings

877
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 4: because if you're going to eat, you might as well

878
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: make it taste good.

879
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: So where can we buy Wilson shug.

880
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: If you could spell it, you could go online and

881
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: just tie it in and you'll find a place.

882
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Got it, Josh, It's hard to describe. You get a

883
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: bottle of what you realize is Worcestershre sauce, and you're like,

884
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: how often do I use worcesters sauce?

885
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: I use it all the time.

886
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 6: You drink it to.

887
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: Normal.

888
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: If you want to flavor something, I mean, if you

889
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: want a good you know there's there's what is there five.

890
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: Flavors in there?

891
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the the His's the great best way

892
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: to get it.

893
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make sense because you eat it, you

894
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: drink it, or you put it.

895
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: You don't drink. I drink right out of that little.

896
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: Drink after the show's got like any rabbit bottle that

897
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: he just it's good, it's good.

898
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: Hey, we have we got we got a segue here,

899
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: we got a segue.

900
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Big sege. That's big, big swing b Bavy Crockett.

901
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: Ready I heard.

902
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: Listen you guys did don't know it, but y'all have

903
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: walked into a trap, every one of you. I feel

904
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: we have a quiz for you. I have a quiz

905
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: for Davy Crockett, episode number two.

906
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: So now ing ding, cue the music.

907
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: We're now on a game show, and I'm going to

908
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: see if y'all actually listened. Every time I tell like

909
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 2: Josh to come, Brant to come, I'm like, did.

910
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: You listen to podcast? And they're like yeah, and I'm like,

911
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: whatever did? Okay?

912
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: So, uh, I have seven questions. The first person to

913
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: answer correctly gets one point.

914
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: You will be charged with.

915
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Keeping out blurting it out. Okay, you will be charged

916
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: with keeping your own score. But it would be a

917
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: buddy system. We will be your monitoring you.

918
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: All right.

919
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna start out easy and get progressively harder.

920
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

921
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety one, what country rock band released a

922
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: cover Sam Josh Spellmaker? I got an extra point. Let

923
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: me read the full question. In nineteen ninety one, what

924
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: country rock band released a cover of the Ballad of

925
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: Davy Crockett. The correct answer is the Kentucky Headhunters. Josh,

926
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: have you ever heard that?

927
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: It's a great, great version though.

928
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Did you like it?

929
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: I did like it. Listen you heard it, Joe, Yeah,

930
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 4: many times.

931
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a.

932
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 5: Bone to pick with you. It is the version, you know.

933
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 5: I grew up in Hatfield, Arkansas. You know I heard

934
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 5: that version before and watched the movie the video, Like

935
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 5: I remember.

936
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: As a kid, all the people with the coonskin.

937
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 5: There was this channel, like we had five channels in

938
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 5: Hatfield and then one day all of us got eighteen

939
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 5: and one of them was more Music, which was this.

940
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 5: It was this video. It showed music videos. MTV was

941
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 5: not allowed in Polk County, So that was like my.

942
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: First experience county like it. They wouldn't let it.

943
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't get it there.

944
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 5: You could not get Eventually people got satellites and you

945
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: could get it on satellite, but you couldn't get it, like,

946
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 5: it was not allowed.

947
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 7: So so I hadn't seen music. He was like everybody else.

948
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: And the Kentucky Headhunters came on there, and then that

949
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 5: guy had my brothers and I when they would come on.

950
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: We loved one of those guys really.

951
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 6: At Arkansas in Mississippi County.

952
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not surprised, Okay, did y'all like it was

953
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: kind of it was kind of a new trick.

954
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I did, played the song but then described what was happening.

955
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: Did you like that? What I didn't what I didn't

956
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: put in there.

957
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: Was when the drummer got up from the drum set

958
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: to chase the bear, he actually went and turned on

959
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: this little handmade auto drummer, Like it was a joke,

960
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: like he like jumps up from the drum set, but

961
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 2: the music's playing, so the music, like the drum keeps

962
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: going and they had to figure out a way.

963
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: You know.

964
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: It's funny is when you said that, I thought, well,

965
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 3: who's drumming?

966
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: You actually thought that?

967
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 6: Well?

968
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the music video, there's like.

969
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: A handmade, hand drawn little little box and it says

970
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: it says manual drum and auto drum, and he flicks

971
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: it the auto drum and then jumps out the window

972
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: and chases the bear.

973
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: Okay, I didn't even think anything about that.

974
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: Josh is a deep thinker.

975
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 6: One of the Elvis.

976
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: Movies, he was singing a song and he wanted the

977
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 8: Jordanaires to back him up while he's riding this motorcycle

978
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 8: down the road. They're like, Elvis, you can't have the

979
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 8: Jordanaires singing. He said, where are we gonna put him?

980
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 8: He said, I guess the same place where the folks

981
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 8: have played the music motorcycle?

982
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: All right, question number two, I'm gonna ask.

983
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: I know one of the questions you're going to question.

984
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: I know one of the that's not fair because we're

985
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 3: all going to answer at the same time if.

986
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 6: We know it.

987
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: Okay, just answer the question. Okay, what state was David

988
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: You're born in?

989
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: Oh?

990
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: I mean I got the answer. So it was Tennessee

991
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 4: before it was as it was tied into the North Carolina.

992
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Okay, does any this.

993
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: Is Franklin Franklin Franklin frank So you were on the

994
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: right track.

995
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to question, is yeah, what is now Tennessee?

996
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: But at the time it was considered the state of

997
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: Franklin years which was like four years when there was

998
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: a state named after Benjamin Franklin.

999
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: Well, he after Benjamin Franklin, That's what I think. Is

1000
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: there another Franklin in American history?

1001
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 7: Well, I'm sure there's several.

1002
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 3: There's only one.

1003
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one of the founding fathers. It was rich Yeah,

1004
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: and so Franklin.

1005
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: Everybody, like even song says born on a mountaintop in Tennessee.

1006
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: And the complicated version is, well it actually wasn't Tennessee

1007
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: when he was born there. But so did you get

1008
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: that right? So you got two right Franklin? Josh, Wow,

1009
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: the score is two to zero. Okay, at what age

1010
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: did David Crockett's follow John first bomb him out to work?

1011
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: You know, I have never thought about that. Had I

1012
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: thought about bonding out my kids, I would have gone

1013
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: into tons of debt.

1014
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish you could rent them out to the

1015
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: credit card who is will.

1016
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: Work anybody under the table. And I should have bonded

1017
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: him out years ago.

1018
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 6: You should.

1019
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: You should see if you work something that with Visa MasterCards,

1020
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: just to have him work directly for them.

1021
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: Brent reeves with a correct answer twelve.

1022
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: You know what I learned, So a good way to

1023
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: approach American history to me just trying to understand what

1024
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 2: was going on is when you're when you're looking into

1025
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: this stuff, you just kind of learn about how life

1026
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: was by these details that don't seem to make a

1027
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: lot of sense or aren't that relevant. But what I

1028
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: learned inside of this is that it was extremely common

1029
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: for people to bond out their children, like have them

1030
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: like go live with people.

1031
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 8: Here was something that I thought was interesting. I thought,

1032
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 8: you know, at twelve years old, now we think about that,

1033
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 8: that is a there's still a child for almost ten

1034
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 8: more year years.

1035
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: Really.

1036
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I looked up several different things that I

1037
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 8: that I researched said that the average last ban somebody

1038
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 8: back then was like thirty eight mm hmm. So that's

1039
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 8: really a quarter. Somebody's already lived a quarter of the

1040
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 8: Lafe by the time there's twelve. It's time he got

1041
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 8: up made something of itself.

1042
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: I mean people were getting married at thirteen fourteen, yeah, sixteen, Yeah, really.

1043
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 6: I mean I was. But that's really it's kind of

1044
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 6: wild to think about it.

1045
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so the score is one to two. Joe and

1046
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: Misty or were bringing up the rear, bringing up the rear.

1047
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: Okay, I think I should maybe get half points because

1048
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 5: I knew too of the answers.

1049
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: Well, this is I think Joe should.

1050
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 5: Get a half point because he had an explanation for

1051
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 5: one of the answers.

1052
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 4: I'll fight my way back, Okay, okay, next round.

1053
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: David Crockett.

1054
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: Spoke of He said that he had blank number of

1055
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 2: the most vicious bear dogs seven South.

1056
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: Seven goes to Joe Wilson.

1057
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: He had seven of the most vicious bear dogs in

1058
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: the South.

1059
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: That's right, and do well, it had to have been.

1060
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 6: For sure.

1061
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: They so there's it's complete speculation. Crockett what said that

1062
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: he did not like pure breed dogs. He liked a

1063
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: mixed a mixed breed dog, which is common still today

1064
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: in a lot of places. People like the mixed breed dog.

1065
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: One of his dogs wasn't bred with a poodle.

1066
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't a crocodoodle. Uh.

1067
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: He That is the only indication of the type of

1068
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: dogs he had, was he he I love it because

1069
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: he said, you know he was he was baying this

1070
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: bear at night in the dark, and the only dog

1071
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: you could see was this white dog. And I think

1072
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: and walker hounds weren't really walker hounds by that time,

1073
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: but there were a lot of hounds from Europe coming

1074
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: in at that I mean, all of our hounds obviously

1075
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: came from Europe, but George Washington was bringing in pure bred,

1076
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: purebred hounds. The plots in the seventeen fifties first got here,

1077
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: and you know, by the time Crockett was hunting in

1078
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: the early eighteen hundreds, the plot breed would have been

1079
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: extremely tight there in eastern North Carolina, which that's right

1080
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: where Crockett was. I mean, Crockett would have been probably

1081
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: within less than one hundred miles of where the plots

1082
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: were at that time, so it's you know, it's possible, unlikely.

1083
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: He probably had just a mix of black and tan

1084
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: and English and running dogs and curves.

1085
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: They liked to clip their tails.

1086
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: Houndsmen today typically don't clip their dog's tails, especially in

1087
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: the East. In the West they do, but Crockett said

1088
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: he loved a dog with a clip tail. Later, we're

1089
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: gonna see uh in the next episode, we're gonna hear

1090
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: about the most famous painting of Crockett, which was done

1091
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: in Manhattan, New York, and the painter. Back in those days,

1092
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: when you painted someone, you actually just had to stand

1093
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: there and they painted you. So it was like a

1094
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: daze long thing and uh, he wanted a picture of himself.

1095
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm spilling the beans. This is like my favorite part

1096
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: of the next episode.

1097
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: Are you sure that this is the one where he's

1098
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 4: tipping the hat?

1099
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah that one, And I hadn't talked

1100
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: about it yet, so good job on that.

1101
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 6: Uh, no extra points. He Uh.

1102
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: The guy was just painting some random dogs on there,

1103
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: and Crockett was like, no, no, no, no, no, we gotta

1104
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: go find some dogs that look no, no, no, this is

1105
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: what was. The guy was painting these purebred dogs that

1106
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: he had got from somewhere in New York, and Kroca

1107
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: was like, nah, we gotta find some dogs that look

1108
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: like Tennessee bear dogs. They went to the streets and

1109
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: got these mongrel dogs and brought them back in and

1110
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: was like, they look like it.

1111
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: Yes, here we are.

1112
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: Question number four, Phil, This is a fill in the

1113
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: blank question. This is a quote from Crockett. He said,

1114
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: if a fellow is born to be hung, he will

1115
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: never be drowned. And further, if he is born will

1116
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: not be blank. Even flower barrels can't make mash of him.

1117
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: We read it again.

1118
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: If if a fellow is this is one of my

1119
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: favorite crown no no, no, Well listen, you're looking for a word,

1120
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: but this is one of my favorite Crockett quotes.

1121
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: He said, if.

1122
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 2: You're born to be if you're born to be hung,

1123
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: you'll never be drowned. I explained that today my son.

1124
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: I love that quote. He said, if a fellow is

1125
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: born to be hung, he'll never be drowned. And further,

1126
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: if he is born for blank, even flower barrels can't.

1127
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: Congress, Congress correct this.

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: I knew it was in there.

1129
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1130
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: One. I listened to the podcast once at regular speed

1131
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: and a second time at one and a half.

1132
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 7: And a half. I listened at one point two five.

1133
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: I can't get I mainly listened to because I like him.

1134
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: I think a podcast until they runed if you have

1135
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: agree speed you guy?

1136
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that like this.

1137
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: This film has been edited to fit to format your

1138
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: screen when.

1139
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 5: They used to Yeah, man, I I actually wish I

1140
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 5: could do that to people.

1141
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, conversation, yeah Crockett.

1142
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: In Crockett's biography, I think it's important to note this,

1143
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: so Daniel Boone, I made this statement like four times.

1144
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I think it's important Daniel Boone became this American archetype.

1145
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: Daniel Boone was like a generation before Crockett Boone. We

1146
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: have this image of him that's really pristine, and I

1147
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: think it's partly because we never really saw Boone's humanity

1148
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: from his own voice. Yeah, there were all these autobiographies

1149
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: of Boone were lost or destroyed, and so Boone is

1150
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: kind of this mysterious guy that we never actually heard

1151
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: from him in his own voice, and Boone has this

1152
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: kind of mythical figure because of that.

1153
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: Crockett was so.

1154
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: Genuine, vulnerable and real in his autobiography. I think it

1155
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: is detrimental to him. And the autobiography is laced with

1156
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: political stuff and it kind of bugged me because it's

1157
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: like every time he was talking, he would say then,

1158
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: but at that time, I didn't know that one day

1159
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: I would be great and sit amongst the greatest men.

1160
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Of the world.

1161
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: Like he kind of is self aggrandizing quite a bit.

1162
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: Because he still had an agenda of being president absolutely,

1163
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: and yeah, so he you know, I was thinking about

1164
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 4: this through the show. When you're state representative, you're there

1165
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: for two years, right, and so as soon as you

1166
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: get elected, you're trying to get re elected, which is

1167
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: kind of a flaw in our whole deal. If you

1168
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 4: gave those guys a five year term, maybe a single

1169
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: five year term. That way you're not worried about getting

1170
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: re elected and self promoting as much as you are

1171
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: taking care of your folks in in your region.

1172
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 6: Don't bring common sense into this story.

1173
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, but that's how that's how I got it.

1174
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: And you know you talked about him being a self promoter. Yeah,

1175
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: I mean he would be a star on Twitter or

1176
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: tub or whatever. That's that's who he was.

1177
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1178
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, he was always bringing he was always bringing up

1179
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: his political career inside his autobiography.

1180
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: And that's probably why people don't like him, Like that's

1181
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: the legacy if that's his autobiosphy.

1182
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: I said it before, if he'd had a good editor

1183
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: and editor down. I mean, I'm being honest. I think

1184
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people my write something like that, but

1185
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: it goes through so many they would be like, hey,

1186
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: that sounds. People said that to me before, believe it

1187
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: or not, Joe, they'd been like, hey, when you say

1188
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: it like that, it sounds.

1189
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 8: I wonder if that correlated to the style of the time, though,

1190
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 8: and I agree, And you had to be the loudest

1191
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 8: when the loudest guy got.

1192
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 4: Hurt or that he was a Southern frontiersman and everybody

1193
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: in the East thought he was going to be an

1194
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: idiot regardless.

1195
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of had a chip on his shoulder.

1196
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: He had to fight his way through and.

1197
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: It was style of the time.

1198
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: And what we heard from Robert Morgan is that Crockett

1199
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: like emerged as you know, some would say America's first

1200
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 2: big celebrity, that someone that was famous in their own time,

1201
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: that knew about their fame, that interacted with their fame,

1202
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: had plays made about them, had a global bestseller book,

1203
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: and he the way he talked and the way he

1204
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: communicated impacted like the next hundred years of literature. And

1205
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: he probably wasn't the only one like it, but he

1206
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: was a big voice inside of that. So like him

1207
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: just being verbose and talking about himself and jumping the

1208
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: Ohio and whipping wildcats and all this stuff. Like I

1209
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: don't think he was the one that created that. I

1210
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: think he heard people like that on the American Frontier,

1211
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: but he was the first guy that had a mouthpiece

1212
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: that was talking like that. And you know, I think

1213
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: he kind of he liked that and he probably took

1214
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: it a little.

1215
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 4: And then it gave probably one of the greatest storytellers

1216
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: of all time, Sam Clemens, gave him a catapult to

1217
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 4: move on and be Mark Twain.

1218
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 6: Did he ever learn to read? Crockett? Yeah, yeah, he did.

1219
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: We missed that. That was a question of The next

1220
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: question was.

1221
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 8: Well when you when you add could again almost ask

1222
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 8: it like, did he ever learn to read?

1223
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: Is that really one of the questions?

1224
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Damn bonus point?

1225
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Canada? When the Quakers Canaday? Was this like really

1226
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: straight laced influence in Crockett's life. Crockett was just like

1227
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: a poverty stricken rough back.

1228
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you get the feeling. His dad really loved

1229
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: party animal.

1230
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: But his dad was a rough man, just like a

1231
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: rough old just frontiersman, pushed through poverty, was constantly running

1232
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: from being bankrupt and crisis after crisis. His dad had

1233
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: grist mill man. Pretty much in American history if you

1234
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: read about here's a hot tip. If you're reading about

1235
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: American history and you see and then they borrowed some

1236
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: money to have a grist mill, Guarantee it's.

1237
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: Gonna get washed away in a flood. Calls him to

1238
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: go bankrupt. Happened.

1239
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 6: Happened.

1240
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: Happened to every single person that ever had a gristmill.

1241
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: So we don't get into that business.

1242
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: But Canaday was a big influence on Crockett, that kind

1243
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: of and there's been people like that identified with that,

1244
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: like people I made a statement about how people outside

1245
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: of your immediate family when you're in this influential age,

1246
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: really do influence I know men that and not that

1247
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: your family does something wrong, but you're just family. It's

1248
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: like you come out with this worldview from your family

1249
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: and then you kind of you see there's other ways

1250
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: to do things. Okay, Question number five, what European capital

1251
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: city did Crockett almost sail to at the age of fourteen?

1252
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 6: Pairs wrong?

1253
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 7: London?

1254
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: Bam, mister Knutan with one H Crockett. We were like,

1255
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: literally Crockett's the guy krogg was working with physically restrained

1256
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: him from getting on a boat and sailing to London.

1257
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: And who knows, he may have got over there and

1258
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: stayed and never come back. This is interesting when he

1259
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: was just a kid. Okay, Mark Twain was born how

1260
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: many months before Crockett died at the Alamo.

1261
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: If you remember, Oh.

1262
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I talked about how their lives overlapped four

1263
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 2: Who said that.

1264
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: Brent Reeves four months?

1265
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 6: So what was like a ten Mark Twain.

1266
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: Got Davy Crockett.

1267
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: Their lives overlapped by four months. I'm fascinated by thinking

1268
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: about our lifespans. And you know I talked about I

1269
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 2: was born in nineteen seventy nine.

1270
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: You do the math. I mean, if somebody was eighty

1271
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: years old.

1272
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: You know, my great grandfather who I knew well, was

1273
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: born in eighteen ninety eight. Wow, and I'd love to

1274
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: listen to him to the stories pretty amazing.

1275
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: So think about I mean, if that were extrapolated back,

1276
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: how much older was he than you?

1277
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 6: Well, he was.

1278
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: He would have been ninety ninety six when he died,

1279
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: and that was probably nineteen ninety two, so.

1280
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: You would have been like ten, So he would have

1281
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: been like eighty something years older than.

1282
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two. I was sixteen.

1283
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is what I'm saying is is.

1284
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: Seventy six, seventy six, seventy oh yeah he was. He

1285
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: was eighty eighty eighty eight years older.

1286
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: Now what the math I'm trying to do though, is

1287
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: if he was born in eighteen ninety eight and he

1288
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: was ten years old. He would have could have been

1289
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: interacting with people born in the eighteen thirties or something.

1290
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1291
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: Oh, so technically he could have known men that would

1292
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: have grown and Davy Crockett.

1293
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, you could go like if you go

1294
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: eighty years back, say like our World War two guys, yep,

1295
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 4: those you go eighty years back from that, and that

1296
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: was Civil War guys. And you go eighty years back

1297
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: from that, and it's the independence. And so if you

1298
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: take that, because we got two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

1299
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: coming up, we're not that far removed from the founding

1300
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: fathers of this country. Which that's some pretty amazing history

1301
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 4: if you just sit back and think about it for

1302
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 4: a minute. And so I'm right there with you. I

1303
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: think this is amazing. The overlap.

1304
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't think.

1305
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: You think you hear the eighteen hundreds and it's like

1306
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: that might as well have been like.

1307
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: Dinosaur ten thousand, but it's not.

1308
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 8: I was sixteen or seventeen when my great grandfather died

1309
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 8: and he was born in eighteen ninety one. Really, yep,

1310
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 8: I'm sitting there. I just did the census thing, so

1311
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 8: years I couldn't remember great grandfather, my great grandfather the same.

1312
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: The same difference in age between your great grandfather my.

1313
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 6: Greatgrand he was born in eighteen ninety one.

1314
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 5: Your daughter's knew they're great. Well on my side, they're

1315
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 5: they're great great grandparents held them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe

1316
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 5: it was my great grandparents, right, and they're yeah, that's

1317
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 5: that's pretty cool.

1318
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

1319
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So the score is is two one one.

1320
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: Three one. How do you get Joe's one? Josh is three?

1321
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: Misty one?

1322
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: How many questions?

1323
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 6: Two?

1324
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: There are two questions left? Two questions left? What was

1325
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: the name of Crockett's first rifle forty eight? Who said

1326
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: it first?

1327
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 6: Jose A cheater?

1328
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry making it up the World championship? What's up?

1329
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 4: It was named after his sister.

1330
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: It was named after his sister, but it wasn't him

1331
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: that named it.

1332
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well that wasn't the question.

1333
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 2: Well, he did call his rifle Betsy, Okay, so he

1334
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: called he He did officially call his rifle Betsy, but

1335
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: the rifle that I actually got to hold in Knoxville

1336
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: was not likely the rifle that he called Betsy.

1337
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 5: Did he call all ye in the podcast, it was

1338
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 5: unclear you.

1339
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 2: Get this is more where you get into the mythology,

1340
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: because really the only hard, hard evidence, the primary source

1341
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: data that you have about David Crockett is that book

1342
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 2: right there, a narrative of the Life of David Crockett

1343
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: by David Crockett. And he never mentions Betsy in that book.

1344
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: Didn't Yeah, he didn't talk about Betsy. But you know,

1345
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: there were a lot of people that knew Crockett that

1346
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: wrote about him that would would have brought just like

1347
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: fest Parker.

1348
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks just like Daniel Boone to me.

1349
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: So what did y'all think about? Was it cool in

1350
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: m j oh?

1351
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1352
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: Was that a good one?

1353
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: That was I live for being able to do stuff

1354
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: like that on a podcast, like put Michael Jordan on

1355
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 2: there and do some really deep metaphor analogy that probably

1356
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 2: nobody gets.

1357
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: But I actually took it a step further and I

1358
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 4: had to research O Betsy a little bit more, and

1359
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: I watched I watched YouTube video and seeing the rifle

1360
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: and where they talked about they had to reconstruct the

1361
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 4: forearm of the rifle and because it was in such

1362
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 4: bad state whenever he purchased it. Yeah, pretty interesting whole deal.

1363
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you can sit and watch YouTube videos for

1364
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: about ten hours on a Sunday on Davy Crockett if.

1365
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 6: You want to.

1366
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you saw Joe Swan I did. He's on

1367
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: the internet.

1368
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, all over it. Man.

1369
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: He is a really nice guy. He and his son

1370
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: were like super nice guys, really genuine, really just loved

1371
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: Crockett their whole life.

1372
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean Joe did. Joe's probably in his seventies.

1373
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, it was interesting how he got that rifle.

1374
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 6: You still have the ram Rod?

1375
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's the original.

1376
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: What would you say would be the thing that you

1377
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 4: have in your possession that'd be as close to him

1378
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 4: owning that rifle anybody has. Anybody got a piece of history,

1379
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 4: you know.

1380
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: Now this doesn't count totally. Somebody else can go after me,

1381
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: but in some ways it does. Right behind you, about

1382
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: three feet from you, is a flintlock musloader that James

1383
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: Lawrence gave me, my old time hero. He's still alive,

1384
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: but he gave me that his old Hawk and fifty

1385
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: caliber several years ago. That's special to me. It happens

1386
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: to be a flint lock that had.

1387
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 6: To be our family bible.

1388
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 8: It was printed in eighteen thirty six and it's got

1389
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 8: dates in there written of people born in the late

1390
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 8: seventeen hundreds when they purchased that bible and started writing

1391
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 8: the Reeves family history.

1392
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 6: And I've got that.

1393
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 4: That would be that's pretty big.

1394
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 7: Interesting is have you seen my wedding ring?

1395
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I did say. My wife's

1396
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: wedding ring has has diamonds from my great grandmother, both

1397
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 3: my maternal and paternal grandmothers, and one for me.

1398
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: I've got an old single shot four to ten. It's

1399
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 4: a fold over like you can put it in the

1400
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 4: saddle bag. It's got a notch in that's in the

1401
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: butt stock where the trigger guard slides in there. Oh

1402
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 4: that my great grandmother used to shoot at rats in

1403
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: the dairy bar. And uh, I've got that hung up

1404
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 4: on the wall. I think that's family history wise, that's

1405
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 4: probably the most important one that I got, short of

1406
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 4: my grandpa's cowboy had That means a lot to me

1407
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: as well.

1408
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: But nice, it's a good question.

1409
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: So the score is Brent three, Misty one, Josh three,

1410
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: You're still three two.

1411
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a.

1412
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 6: I thought you said you had seven questions?

1413
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: You get you get a third question?

1414
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 6: Right? You did not?

1415
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: Joe, You've got to. Joe's got to I've got three.

1416
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 6: You're a cheater.

1417
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 3: That's okay, calling you out?

1418
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: Wow wow, words words.

1419
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 6: If that was a final.

1420
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: Question and this would be a tie breaker potentially, or

1421
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: we may just have to go for a tie or.

1422
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 6: Okay.

1423
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: In the podcast, I talked about what part of the

1424
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: bear did Hunters and Crocketts time bladder? I am Joe

1425
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: to transport the rendered barrel and the answer was a

1426
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 2: dry bladder.

1427
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 6: That's true. Time.

1428
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: We got a three three part time Misty. Can you

1429
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 1: think of a question a tie breaking question?

1430
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 7: Yeah? What about with that? Can I just go ahead

1431
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 7: and ask it?

1432
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1433
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: This is tie breaker. Whoever gets it wins.

1434
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about he's got to cheater.

1435
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: I think he's got three.

1436
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 3: How many questions?

1437
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 6: Have we had?

1438
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 3: Nine questions? I don't know.

1439
01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. You got a question when was he jilted?

1440
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 7: And by who?

1441
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 6: When?

1442
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: I don't even know the answer to that.

1443
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that was that was?

1444
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 6: That was a Quaker game?

1445
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: Did it say what year? No, he was seventeen? Was

1446
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 3: he seventeen? We got on that one and his name

1447
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: was started with an l Okay.

1448
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 7: I got one the night before his wedding is what

1449
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 7: I would have?

1450
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 4: That's true.

1451
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: What is the name of Crocketts first one? Polly is

1452
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: our winner around.

1453
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: He's going to get.

1454
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: The bottle of Wilsonshire saw.

1455
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: To cook it, drink it and depending how you behave,

1456
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: I'll autograph it.

1457
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: Joe. Joe's face is on the bottle of wilson Shire.

1458
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

1459
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: It's got cowboy hat, big mustache. It was a right

1460
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: marketing move for your face.

1461
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: Can I tell you my favorite part of the podcast? Yes,

1462
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: my favorite part of the podcast was when he showed

1463
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: up when he was I don't I don't remember what

1464
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 3: after he had worked for Canada fifteen Is that after

1465
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: he worked for Canada, when he when he had the

1466
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: forty dollars bond and he walked back and he set

1467
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 3: it down in front of his dad and his dad said,

1468
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't have money for that, and he said, I

1469
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 3: took care of it. I was like that, that's the

1470
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: kind of thing that like, well, first of all, it

1471
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: pulls at the heartstrings a little bit because I loved

1472
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 3: the sacrifice and commitment. I mean this is for a

1473
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: dad who bonded you out.

1474
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1475
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: But just the commitment and then the lack of I mean,

1476
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: he could have done it and been been you know,

1477
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: held a grudge about it, but he didn't. And and

1478
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: I love that it said that his dad, who was

1479
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:56,520
Speaker 3: who repeatedly was referred to as a you know, the

1480
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: the what was the name of the Irish ulster Scott. Yeah, yes, yes,

1481
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 3: would have been a rough man. I mean he ran

1482
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: a tavern that he shed many tears over that. I

1483
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 3: thought that's the kind of thing that that after years

1484
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 3: of I'm sure they probably didn't have a great relationship,

1485
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: that's the kind of thing that that builds a bond there,

1486
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: that makes that father and son dynamic.

1487
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 8: Right, it was the right thing to do. I go

1488
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 8: back to that talking about that too, Josh. It was

1489
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 8: just I think it was a I don't think it

1490
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 8: was an anomaly. There was probably a lot of that

1491
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 8: stuff going on. He was just unfortunate enough to be

1492
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 8: one of the out of that litter of nine, wasn't

1493
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 8: it nine that that had to go pay that off?

1494
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 8: So I think it was the right thing.

1495
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: I felt like.

1496
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: So every most people, maybe not most people, a lot

1497
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: of people would know the high points of Crockett's life.

1498
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 2: When you're trying to tell a big story like this,

1499
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, there's some things you just have to leave

1500
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: out and.

1501
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: Some things you want to add in.

1502
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: I felt like everybody knows a lot of the big

1503
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: Crocket stuff, but his childhood, actually what made him who

1504
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: he was, I felt like was really important.

1505
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: And I actually kind of felt.

1506
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: Like maybe this podcast would be a little boring because

1507
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: it's kind of like small stuff, Like, you know, I

1508
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: included when he took that canoe across the river. He

1509
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: included that in his autobiography. Basically, I just went through

1510
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: the autobiography and included most of the not maybe not

1511
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: even most, but some percentage of the stories. I wanted

1512
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: to include the stuff about his dad. I wanted to

1513
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: include the stuff about him coming home and no one

1514
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: recognizing him. You remember that, Yeah, Like he walks back

1515
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: into his own house, Ye, gets a room from one

1516
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: of his family members, sets down at the table in

1517
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: one of his sister's.

1518
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 4: Record because he had matured so much.

1519
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and and he and Crockett, to his own detriment,

1520
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: always showed his cards in a genuine way. He said,

1521
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 2: he said, when they embraced me, and my dad embraced

1522
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: me even though he was mad at me when I left,

1523
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: and he said, it made me wish I had never

1524
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: put them through all this stuff. When Crockett was jilted

1525
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: the day before his wedding, and and I'm saying this

1526
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: because the next episode you see Crockett's blunder, which Crockett

1527
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:43,480
Speaker 2: did kind of screw his life up eventually. Yeah, Crockett, Uh,

1528
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: Like when he talked about getting jilted. I listened to

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,440
Speaker 2: that part today and he went into great detail, vulnerable

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01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: detail in his autobiography about how it hurt him when

1531
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: this this woman left him, like literally the day.

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 6: I just brushed over it, like.

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: He was a man just like any of us. And

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: I that's what's cool about Crockett. You don't know that

1535
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: stuff about Boone nothing. It's a mystery. It's a mystery

1536
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: what went on with Boone and and but Krogett you

1537
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: see him full, full scale, and he represented a an

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: archetype really of manhood in America and the frontier that

1539
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: I believe today is still active, for better or worse.

1540
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: That's why these things are so interesting to me because

1541
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: It's like we wake up and are born into something

1542
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 2: that tells us what has value. And that's why I

1543
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: think this stuff is interesting to look back at why

1544
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: we think the way we think.

1545
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: And obviously people like us people.

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Connected to hunting specifically, but just rural America. And it's

1547
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: not just hunters that are connected to Crockett. I mean

1548
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: he set a template for a lot of different stuff.

1549
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: But I like to learn where you know are Well,

1550
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get into more.

1551
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 7: Ei, We're gonna get into Yeah.

1552
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: So closing comments, Joe, it's been great to have you man,

1553
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: really so it was so good hearing about the Squirrel

1554
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 2: Cookoff September twenty third.

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01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Springdale, Arkansas. Man, be there. Brent's gonna for sure

1556
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: be there.

1557
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 6: Yep.

1558
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: I've got a trip, but I think I'm going to

1559
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 2: be back by that time.

1560
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 4: Well, we'd love to have all your listeners. And like

1561
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 4: I say, they could pay attention to that Facebook page.

1562
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 4: That's I'm old school. I don't have all the other

1563
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 4: ones all right, but on Facebook he could look up

1564
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 4: the World Champions Squirrel Cookoff and hey, could I give

1565
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 4: We also have a podcast, yes, absolutely. Our podcast is

1566
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 4: called cooking Up a Story and we try to put

1567
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:56,520
Speaker 4: faces on common people. And because so many people get overlooked,

1568
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,480
Speaker 4: we don't pay attention to the guy that makes the doughnuts.

1569
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 4: We don't know who that person is. So we drag

1570
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 4: in common people and we dig deep into their start

1571
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 4: of their life all the way up to current and

1572
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 4: we get better because of it.

1573
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: So it's a really neat podcast. Yeah, what was the

1574
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: one you sent me?

1575
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 4: I sent you the donut Man. Yeah, and so I

1576
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 4: had a curiosity why every time I went to the

1577
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 4: donut shop there was an Asian guy making my donuts.

1578
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 4: And come to find out, they're all Cambodian. And this

1579
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 4: guy had survived the killing fields. He was a Buddhist monk.

1580
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 4: He was enslaved several times in his life, and he

1581
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 4: prayed to Jesus, wound up in New York City and

1582
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: become an American as a Buddhist.

1583
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,520
Speaker 1: That episode is phenomenal.

1584
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: It's uh yeah, and.

1585
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: Joe, he's given you the short version, which is good.

1586
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: But basically, Joe just said a stereotype that anybody in

1587
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 2: America would probably recognize that a lot of donut shops

1588
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: are run by Asian people.

1589
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not like that's just it happens.

1590
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: Joe went to his local donut shop and just interviewed

1591
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: the guy that owned the shop. This is a short version,

1592
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: and this guy has the most phenomenal story you've ever heard.

1593
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: In it's amazing. I mean, this guy needs a movie.

1594
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's his name?

1595
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 4: Lang Tang, Lang Tang, And.

1596
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: It's called what's it called?

1597
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 4: It's cooking up a story in that episode is the

1598
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 4: podcast is cooking up a story of the episode is

1599
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 4: donut guy, donut guy and phenomenon. I mean, that's how

1600
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: we look at people. Sure, right, that's the guy that

1601
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 4: pours the concrete, the plumber, that's the mailman, And we've

1602
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 4: surrounded ourselves with all these people. And back in time,

1603
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 4: I'm saying, when I was a pup, we knew those

1604
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: people's names. And one of the problems with society right

1605
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 4: now is you push a button, you buy something, you

1606
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 4: don't know nothing about it. You don't even know the

1607
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 4: guy that dropped it off on your front porch. So

1608
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 4: we're trying to find common people who have exceptional stories

1609
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 4: and unless we sit down with and those stories are lost.

1610
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 4: So that's that's the game. And then the guy across

1611
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 4: from me wearing the overalls. Man. How about his show?

1612
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah man, this week this country life Brent Reeves.

1613
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,919
Speaker 6: Squirrel dogs, squirrel dogs, talking all about them.

1614
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 8: Get your prepped up for going to the World Show Championship.

1615
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 4: Good stuff, great show man. Looking forward to the rest.

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01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 4: We're getting into the Alamo.

1617
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: We will later.

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01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 6: Got you.

1619
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: It's getting close, all right.

1620
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: Keep your wild places wild and get your Wilson shirts off.

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01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 6: Break out the case.