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Speaker 2: I told my friend their ex can't move in with us,

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Speaker 3: Blew up, well, you gotta be on the lease if

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Speaker 2: For some context, a close friend and I have been

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Speaker 2: planning to move to another state for about a year now.

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Speaker 2: We've been working hard to be financially comfortable enough to

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Speaker 2: move in early December.

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Speaker 2: slash Okay story Time subreddit. I'm Vincent, I'm Riley, I'm Keon,

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Speaker 2: and we're here to give good advice goofully, But we

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Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we

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Speaker 2: would do, so let us know what you do in

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Speaker 2: the comments. As Opie says, now, my friend has an

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Speaker 2: ex girlfriend who has been living with them in their parents' house.

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Speaker 2: When we originally made plans, she was going to move

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Speaker 2: back to her own parents' house. However, plans have been changed.

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Speaker 2: According to my friend. The ex's parents cannot afford to

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Speaker 2: take her in again and have requested that she be

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Speaker 2: able to move in with us until she can get situated.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, this is where the problem lies. Yes, that

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Speaker 2: is a problem. This ex girlfriend, while I have not

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Speaker 2: met her in real life, does not sound like the

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Speaker 2: kind of person I want to live with, nor do

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Speaker 2: I want my friend to live with any longer. She

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Speaker 2: does not have a job and has not had a

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Speaker 2: job for the entirety. The X doesn't have a car

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Speaker 2: and can't drive. Your friend has to drive her everywhere

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Speaker 2: she needs to go. She smokes the devil's lettuce, which

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Speaker 2: I don't personally care about, but the smell gives me

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Speaker 2: my grains. She does nothing except layer around in their

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Speaker 2: not super appealing. Again, I have never met the girl,

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Speaker 2: and all of this information comes from my friends venting

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Speaker 2: sessions and passing conversation. The information might be slightly embellished,

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Speaker 2: but the complaints are common enough that they have to

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Speaker 2: come from somewhere right. I feel bad for opposing the

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Speaker 2: idea because I can see that she is struggling with

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Speaker 2: mental health. Oh, I too have problems with personal hygiene

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Speaker 2: and the like when I'm in a bad place. But

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Speaker 2: as a person who struggles with mental health issues myself,

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Speaker 2: I believe you still have to be responsible for yourself

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Speaker 3: I agree it's on that that's your responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to do the work to help yourself

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Speaker 2: out of the hole that you.

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Speaker 5: May be in.

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Speaker 2: All right, even if you have to work harder for it.

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Speaker 2: As nice as it would be to lay around all

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Speaker 2: it's unrealistic. I also feel bad for my friend who

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Speaker 2: has been financing oh I think this lifestyle for who.

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Speaker 5: Knows how long.

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Speaker 2: Why it's not fair to them to be worried about

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Speaker 3: What is the situation?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I ah gosh, oh boy.

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Speaker 2: I worry that when she moves in with us, it

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Speaker 2: be stuck enabling her lifestyle.

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Speaker 5: Plus, part of the appeal to.

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Speaker 2: Finally moving out is that I will be away from

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Speaker 2: my toxic household, and I feel like if she comes

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Speaker 2: with us, the toxicity is only going to follow, just

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Speaker 2: in a different flavor. I'm with you on this one,

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Speaker 2: But my friend says that she has no other options

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Speaker 2: and has no one else to stay with. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be the reason somebody is homeless. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: would I be the a hole if I said she

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're saving yourself a lot of hassle.

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Speaker 2: Also, like moving away from a toxic household, moving this

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Speaker 2: is your chance to do some self actualizing.

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Speaker 5: On your own.

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Speaker 2: So bet be independent, Be independent, And I totally get

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Speaker 2: where you're coming from. You don't want someone latching on

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Speaker 5: Pull you down.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's like crabs in a bugget. Have you

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Speaker 5: Crabs and bucket?

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Speaker 2: I saw a play called Crabs in the Bucket, but

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Speaker 2: I know the saying behind it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they'll drag you down, they'll drag you down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Edit edit because I didn't really think

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Speaker 2: this gets so much tension. I really appreciate everyone's input

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Speaker 2: and advice. One thing I want to clarify real quick.

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Speaker 2: My friend is a very sweet person.

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Speaker 5: We can tell, we can tell they're even putting up

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Speaker 2: Give a lot yeah, yeah, who has a lot of

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Speaker 2: love to give and unfortunately it's.

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Speaker 5: To a fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to completely excuse them, because I totally agree

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Speaker 2: is a problem. They just don't know how to let go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and we have an update from eleven days later.

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Speaker 3: But what do you think you know, sometimes people are

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Speaker 3: in situations they don't understand that letting go over person

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Speaker 2: Or sometimes I was just talking to someone about this today,

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Speaker 2: like someone going through a breakup, if they have like

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Speaker 2: a savior complex, Oh that like feeling responsible for a

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Speaker 2: person may give them, Like if they have a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, agreed, all right.

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Speaker 2: Update eleven days later. Oh my gosh, some people were

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Speaker 2: asking for an update. And now that everything is more

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Speaker 2: or less resolved, Okay, I can finally give it. With

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Speaker 2: the advice of the thread site and some other people

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Speaker 2: in my life, I let my friend know that I

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Speaker 5: Period of time. Oh good, good, good, way to stand

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because once you let her in, she's never gonna leave.

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Speaker 2: No, of course. This is the same night my friend's

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Speaker 2: So I told my friend they could wait on giving

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna move in together, and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Your parents are going through a moment. Wow, I'm sorry

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Speaker 5: Again. They seem like a sweet person. They have all

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Speaker 6: Give her care, give her a care it you'd be alright.

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Speaker 2: You can, that's up to her. She's too scared to

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Speaker 2: Opie's doing as much as they can and this person

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Speaker 3: We're gonna sit here in silence.

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Speaker 3: Then, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: My immediate thought was, heck, no, I'm not doing this again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, real people says. It seems like she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because bringing all the nose, because it sounds like

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Speaker 2: they might have isolated your friend, yeah, and have this

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Speaker 2: because it felt like we'd be walking on eggshells all

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Speaker 2: So I flat out told my friend this is not

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Speaker 2: And because I know it's the best thing for your

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Speaker 2: Dude, whatever you do, Yeah, don't move in with this person.

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Speaker 3: If they ask, you can give them advice. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Perhaps I know, all right, there's an update, Okay, all right.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Wish me luck on finding a place and some roommates

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Speaker 5: That's good. Yeah, don't let us stop you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all the input and advice on my

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Speaker 6: My father's new wife cut us out of his life

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Speaker 8: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, and we're here.

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Speaker 6: To give good advice goofully, but we don't have all

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Speaker 8: But I don't care.

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Speaker 6: This all started with my mother's passing eleven years ago,

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Speaker 6: Drawn back to the heck that followed my father's passing.

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Speaker 6: a job, so I went when I could and called

443
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 6: every day. One day that third week, I called my

444
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 6: sister because my dad had been sending me messages that

445
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 6: didn't make sense. We tried to get in touch with

446
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 6: the hospice nurse to check on him, but we're told

447
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 6: we weren't allowed to make that request or ask about

448
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 6: as well being since we weren't his wife. I panicked

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 6: because I'd called Karen multiple times and she never answered,

450
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 6: sending me to voicemail. Bee drove the two hours down

451
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 6: to check on him and found that Karen, who was

452
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 6: in charge of his medication since she didn't want hospice

453
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 6: to do that, ended up tripling his dose of pain medication.

454
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 8: Everything about the story just keeps getting worse and worse.

455
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 8: I mean literally, the only thing that I can think

456
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 8: about of how I can help is to tell you

457
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 8: and your sister to go get checked, because if both

458
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 8: your parents yeah at stage four, Karen, you know you

459
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 8: want to catch that early.

460
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 6: After speaking with Karen and the hospice nurse, my sister

461
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 6: got them to agree that only the hospice nurse would

462
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 6: dispense his medication From then on. I never had another

463
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 6: lucid conversation with him after that, and exactly twenty eight

464
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 6: days after they were married, our father passed at around

465
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 6: twelve thirty am. Karen's family, who were in town for

466
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 6: her son's graduation, called me to let me know, and

467
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 6: then berated me for not wanting to speak with Karen

468
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 6: on the phone. I apologized, but stated I just wanted

469
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 6: to call my sister, and I did. I woke up

470
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 6: eight hours later to a message from Karen that my

471
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 6: dad's funeral was being held in two days at eight am.

472
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 6: I was flabbergasted. How is that enough time to plan

473
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 6: a funeral, allow for reviewing, and for our family to travel.

474
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 8: It's not she doesn't want you there.

475
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 6: Well, Karen informed me that since her family was already

476
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 6: in town, it didn't matter about anyone else.

477
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 8: It's like, oh, wait, you guys can't make it. No, well,

478
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 8: I guess we'll have to do it without.

479
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 6: You, without his own daughters. Yeah, the funeral had to

480
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 6: be held before they left. I was left scrambling to

481
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 6: get a last minute flight home, since it took over

482
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 6: twenty four hours to drive back. I arrived home the

483
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 6: next day and drove straight to the funeral home to

484
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: meet my sister in Karen's family. The entire meeting was

485
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: a disaster. This was the same place we were five

486
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 6: years ago planning our mom's funeral, and the funeral director

487
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 6: remembered my sister.

488
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 8: And me by name. Oh.

489
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 6: Karen had brought along my dad's a strange sister whom

490
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 6: he had not had a relationship with our entire lives.

491
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 6: Karen and her family wanted a Catholic priest to preside

492
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 6: over the funeral. Our dad was atheist, wanted no family

493
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 6: viewing of our dad, only she and her family, not

494
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 6: my sister and I.

495
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 8: This woman is awful, and the list goes on.

496
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 6: It got so bad that I stormed out of the

497
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 6: room twice. The real treat was when Karen's mother pulled

498
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 6: my sister and me aside and lectured us on how

499
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 6: tomorrow we were expected to behave and not embarrass Karen

500
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 6: excuse me. Needless to say, I didn't handle that well,

501
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 6: telling her to f off and that I would make

502
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 6: a scene if I chose to a little context. I'm

503
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 6: an introvert with social anxiety. I have a hard time

504
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 6: communicating when stressed and don't like being touched. However, I'm

505
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 6: stupidly loyal to my family, so when Karen's mother grabbed

506
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 6: me and Be by the arm and he yanked us around.

507
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 6: I lost my crap. This woman also berated b for

508
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 6: deciding not to let her son come to the funeral.

509
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 6: At this point, I'd had enough and yelled at both

510
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 6: Karen and her mother, pointing out that this was the

511
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: second time Be and I were planning a parent's funeral

512
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: and that they expressingly ignored all of my dad's final wishes.

513
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 6: I grabbed Bee and left, with the threat that if

514
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 6: I wasn't allowed to see my dad the next day,

515
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 6: I would make a scene unlike anything they had ever witnessed.

516
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 8: It's like in Astasia when Rasputin comes in, or I

517
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 8: guess you could also say alyficent In sleeping Beauty and

518
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 8: they're like, ah, I will curse you forever.

519
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 6: The next morning, suddenly, my family, including one of our

520
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: mother's brothers who drove all night, were allowed to see

521
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 6: my dad. Karen had included a rosary. My dad was atheist.

522
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 6: The funeral director was on our side and allowed us

523
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 6: to add anything we wanted to the casket and seated

524
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: our side first. The service was vomit worthy. One of

525
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 6: Karen's nephews gave a speech about how Joe was the

526
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 6: father he never had and the son Joe always wanted.

527
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 6: At least three people fell asleep and snored. The graveside

528
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 6: service wasn't a huge deal until we got another lecture

529
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 6: about proper funneral emotion.

530
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 8: Lecturing these people about their parents passing.

531
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 6: When we buried our mom, our dad told us crying

532
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: was not allowed, so nobody should be shocked that neither

533
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 6: Be nor I cried during his funeral either. This inspired

534
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 6: rage from Karen and my dad's mom, who crawled out

535
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 6: of her hole. After twenty eight years of being a wall.

536
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 6: We heard over and over about what witches we were

537
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 6: b and I just ignored them. However, on my way out,

538
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 6: I overheard Karen and my dad's mom talking about going

539
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 6: to my parents' home and taking what they wanted and deserve.

540
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 6: We barely had a passing certificate, so I walked over

541
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 6: to Karen and asked if she had a key to

542
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: her family home so that Be and I could grab

543
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 6: some personal items. Karen agreed, suspiciously easy, and gave me

544
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 6: a key.

545
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 8: Take it all, Take it all, and.

546
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 6: One of you goes to U Hall, and one of

547
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 6: you goes to the house.

548
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 8: And then you lock the house down. You don't let

549
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 8: anyone in.

550
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 6: You haul girl also goes and gets locks from locks.

551
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 6: B and I drove to our family home and the

552
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 6: key didn't work. I jimmied the door open and immediately

553
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 6: noticed that the sofa and chairs my mom had bought

554
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: before she passed away were missing, as were the end

555
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 6: tables and the TV. The safe with all our dad's

556
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 6: important documents had also been messed with. Two neighbors came

557
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 6: over and said an unknown truck came two mornings ago

558
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 6: and left with furniture. That's right, less than eight hours

559
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 6: after his passing, Karen had driven to our family home

560
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 6: and taken my mom's furniture. She had asked my dad

561
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 6: repeatedly for that furniture, and he always refused, saying it

562
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 6: would only ever stay in my mom's house.

563
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 8: At that point, B and.

564
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 6: I called in the cavalry and we packed and moved

565
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: eight thirty two hundred square foot house in roughly four hours.

566
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 8: Initiative drive power.

567
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 6: Look at you guys, go I can feel the like

568
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 6: rage that feel that group.

569
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they were like we gotta move people out

570
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 8: out out, go go go.

571
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 6: The absolute efficiency that came from that.

572
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were like, okay, you take this upstairs, I'll

573
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 8: take the downstairs. You got the kitchen, and let's move

574
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 8: out people.

575
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 6: Two days later, our found our parents will in their

576
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 6: bank safety deposit box and contacted Karen. Karen lost her

577
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 6: crap and produced documents that had been signed by our

578
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 6: dad within seventy two hours of his passing and were

579
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: very obviously not his signature. He supposedly signed over all

580
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 6: his vehicles, businesses, and house to Karen, along with his

581
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 6: life insurance and our mother's investment accounts.

582
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 8: So that's like a crime, Karen, it's like such a crime.

583
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 8: It's a crime.

584
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: Our legal battle began. Two of the three life insurance

585
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: policies denied her as the recipient since it was changed

586
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: so close to his passing, and the beneficiaries reverted back

587
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 6: to be and me. After we went to court, the

588
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 6: judge decided that even those state law stated if you

589
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: were married less than a year before you're passing your

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 6: assets were back to your children, that that rule didn't

591
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 6: apply due to the documents that were signed. Eventually, it

592
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: was decided that Karen would be in charge of selling

593
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: our parents' business with our approval, and that the money

594
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 6: would be split fifty to fifty between Karen and b

595
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 6: and me, while By and I could keep our parents'

596
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 6: house and everything in it. Sadly, Karen would keep our

597
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 6: mother's investment accounts as she was the legal spouse. After

598
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 6: we agreed, the judge asked if there was anything else

599
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 6: we wanted to bring up, and I stated that I

600
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 6: wanted my mom's furniture back and that I would refuse

601
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 6: the settlement if it didn't happen, since we had proof

602
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 6: it was taken from our family home after Dad's passing.

603
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 6: The glare on Karen's face was worth one thousand suns.

604
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: The day came to pick up what we were getting

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 6: from the business, and guess what was sitting right in

606
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 6: front of the office. My mother's furniture.

607
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 8: Did that come from? Oh, Karen's.

608
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 7: I don't know.

609
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 8: Oh I didn't dake it. I don't know how I

610
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 8: got there this morning. I walked in and look.

611
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 6: I guess someone first robbed me.

612
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 8: They gave me stuff, Yeah, tooth fairy easter bunny, Sanna came,

613
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 8: dropped it off.

614
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 6: Oh, and that furniture. We turned around and sold it

615
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 6: to a competing law firm in Karen's hometown for them

616
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: to use.

617
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 8: It by lobby.

618
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: It was the ugliest sofa and chair sat any of

619
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 6: us had seen, but my mom loved it, so I

620
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 6: was determined to get it back. We advertised it as

621
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 6: caution heartless witches may have sat on this, and the

622
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 6: law firm said that was exactly the type of couch

623
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 6: they needed. I get great joy knowing Karen drove by

624
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 6: that place every day and had to see that couch

625
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 6: through the giant glass window. Karen ended up selling both

626
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 6: businesses without telling us and pocketing the proceeds herself. She

627
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 6: told the buyers that her and my dad started the

628
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: business and that my dad had no children. She also

629
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 6: tried to cancel various insurances we had together and told

630
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: them that all three of us had passed away after

631
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 6: being disowned and declared passed away and told we never existed.

632
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 6: Be and I decided this was too emotionally draining to

633
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 6: continue fighting and let it go. That she went against

634
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 6: a court order. We wanted to be done with her. However,

635
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: this entire situation made my skin itch. I had spoken

636
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: multiple times with both my parents about what they wanted

637
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: to happen with their estate and this was nothing like

638
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 6: what either had said, and this is where I decided

639
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 6: to get a little payback. In Karen's state, if you

640
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: have an income under a certain threshold and have a

641
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 6: certain number or more children, your children can go to

642
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: state college basically for free. Karen had three kids who

643
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 6: would all be starting college in the fall. Due to

644
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 6: receiving our parents' business and their bank accounts, Karen moved

645
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: up a lot of tax brackets. By the time our

646
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 6: dad passed, their business was making almost six hundred K

647
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: a year compared to the less than thirty five k

648
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: Karen told us she made. So in a moment of

649
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 6: pure spitefulness, I called the state board and asked how

650
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 6: well they ensure the children on state funds actually qualified.

651
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 6: After I confirmed the process, I suggested they'd take another

652
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 6: look at Karen's monthly and yearly income, as she likely

653
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 6: would be committing fraud if she was part of that program.

654
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 6: Needless to say, all her children were kicked out of

655
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: the assistance program but could still enroll in the university.

656
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 6: They just had to pay tuition like everyone else.

657
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 8: But thank goodness, you know, she's more or less out

658
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 8: of your life, and it seems like you're getting you're

659
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 8: getting back at her.

660
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 6: I didn't tell my family about this for years until

661
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: it casually came up in conversation that Karen was married

662
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: a third time and getting ready to go through another divorce.

663
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: I just laughed a little to myself, reminiscing about screwing

664
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Speaker 6: her over like she did us, and told my family

665
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: when they asked. Some of them thought it was hilarious,

666
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 6: while others told me it was cool since her children

667
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 6: were innocent. Honestly, I didn't and still don't care. And

668
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: with that, my ridiculously long tail ends. So am I

669
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: the a hole for a petty revenge against Karen. That's

670
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Speaker 6: the end of that story.

671
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 8: I knew you're not. She got what she deserved. She

672
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 8: did it, did what she had to do. But that's

673
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 8: the end of that story. And we've got another one

674
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Speaker 8: coming right up.

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676
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,040
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677
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Speaker 8: My husband refused to support my legal battle and expects

678
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 8: me to move on from what So my husband, twenty

679
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 8: eight male, and I, thirty female, get into this same

680
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 8: fight every few weeks for the last eight months. He

681
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 8: thinks I am being a petty, vindictive ahole and am

682
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 8: so consumed with revenge. By the way, this comes from

683
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Speaker 8: Cautious Chipmunk five to six five And if you want

684
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 8: to spend your own stories, go to the r slash

685
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 8: Okay story time, separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and

686
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 8: we're here to give good advice. Goofuley, but we don't

687
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 8: have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,

688
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 8: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

689
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Speaker 8: Last year, in October, my dad passed away. My little

690
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 8: family of husband and kids live in a different state

691
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 8: than the rest of our families, but we decided we

692
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 8: wanted to elope. I know we did our life backwards,

693
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 8: but whatever. We dropped the kids off at my dad's house,

694
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 8: did a week by ourselves, got married, then picked up

695
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 8: the kids to do our last week of a honeymoon

696
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 8: as a family vacation, visiting my in laws and sharing

697
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 8: the news. On the last night, my dad passed away

698
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 8: and we had to drive back. Oh. My dad lived

699
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 8: with my cousin, renting a house from some friends. My

700
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 8: dad had a girlfriend for four months prior to his passing,

701
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 8: who immediately moved into the house and claimed to live there.

702
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 8: I was there five days before his passing, and she

703
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 8: did not live there. My dad never wanted to live

704
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 8: with another woman, especially since he was still married and

705
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 8: sleeping with my mom. My mom and dad separated during

706
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: the pandemic, but were still really close. It's really messy,

707
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 8: all four of them. The couple that owned the house,

708
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 8: my cousin, and my dad's girlfriend did everything they could

709
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 8: to keep us out of the house. My siblings were

710
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 8: kicked out within twelve hours of him passing with the

711
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 8: muscle reinforcements of a neighbor. They let me into the

712
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 8: house to look for his paperwork the following day when

713
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 8: I rolled into town, but I had to wait on

714
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 8: the porch for several hours. My keys and code no

715
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 8: longer worked. I found out they re keyed the doors

716
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 8: and locked the garage. Once in the house, I found

717
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 8: that pew pews were missing and that paperwork was gone

718
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 8: from his safe. I know this because my paperwork that

719
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 8: I had just put into the safe a few days

720
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 8: before was also missing. I was then strong armed into

721
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 8: handing over all my dad's cash that was in the safe,

722
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 8: which was fifty five hundred dollars to his girlfriend, who

723
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 8: was telling everyone it was her tip money. In reality,

724
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 8: it was the money from the sale of his motorcycle

725
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 8: that finalized two days before his passing. Who keeps their

726
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 8: tip money all in crisp hundreds. I knew from previous

727
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 8: conversations with my dad and from signing his will that

728
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 8: I was the executor of his estate. Others knew it too,

729
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 8: because he was vocal about his wishes. I was then

730
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 8: told by my cousin that I was not allowed to

731
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 8: touch anything and I needed to come back with paperwork

732
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 8: that left me in charge of my dad's estate. This

733
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 8: took about three weeks to get but I have had

734
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 8: it that night if someone had not gone through his safe.

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 8: They even went as far as to threaten to have

736
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 8: me trespassed from the property when I came to get

737
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 8: my clothing for my father's wake. My grandparents even sided

738
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 8: with the cousin and threatened to call the cops themselves.

739
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 8: Really threw me for a loop because we were always

740
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 8: really close. I am one of the only family members

741
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 8: that live in town with them. I see them often

742
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 8: with the kids, and we'd call each other once a week.

743
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 8: As another layer to this crap show, the couple my

744
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 8: dad was renting from were close friends of fits. My

745
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 8: dad was a silent investor in their automotive business. My

746
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 8: dad and them had promissory notes for twenty K that

747
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 8: was legit and at the time of his passing was

748
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 8: already passed due for repayment. My dad was heavily in

749
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 8: medical debt, credit card debt, and was a middimalist. His

750
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 8: total estate before debts is under sixty five K, and

751
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 8: after debt repayment we will be lucky to cover legal

752
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 8: fees with probate. He was not rich by any means,

753
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 8: but he was extremely generous even when he should not

754
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 8: have been, so twenty K is a lot of money

755
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 8: in this scenario. The couple went on telling people that

756
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 8: my siblings and I were gold diggers and only after

757
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 8: my dad's money. How would you know they did this,

758
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 8: you may ask, because they called a mutual friend that

759
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 8: had come over, and our friend put it on speaker.

760
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 8: We all heard them laugh about u side of the house,

761
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: mock my siblings as they cried, and call us gold

762
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 8: diggers for asking about where things were that were already

763
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 8: missing from the house. We were all really paranoid because

764
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 8: my dad passed at work and his friends found out

765
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 8: and flooded my dad's scene. People were going through his

766
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 8: desk at work and had already taken his side arm

767
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 8: and his jewelry the coroner placed on his desk. As

768
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 8: we waited for the paperwork, I was going through my

769
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 8: dad's belongings on his desk and went through his work computer.

770
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: From there, I logged into his security cameras that were

771
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 8: at the house. I downloaded and saved all the videos

772
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 8: from outside and inside the house. I overheard forty hours

773
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 8: of my cousin and various other people talking about how

774
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 8: if they could keep us out of the house long

775
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 8: enough with tenant rights, they'd be able to keep my

776
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 8: dad's belongings. My cousin has a major gambling problem, which

777
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 8: is why I wanted to pack up and secure everything.

778
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 8: The first day I got there, I also heard packing

779
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 8: which violated our agreement we made with lawyers and later

780
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 8: our TPO. We also got to hear hours of defamation

781
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 8: and vile lies they told our friends and family because

782
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 8: of this. The night my dad passed away, the rest

783
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 8: of our extended family passed away. To two people on

784
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 8: my dad's side of the family said I'm so sorry

785
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 8: you lost your dad. Everyone else either cut ties with

786
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 8: no conversation or sent horrible hate mail because we had

787
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 8: started to go fund me and embarrass the family, making

788
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 8: my father look destitute. They said we were frauds for

789
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 8: doing so, because our grandparents are wealthy and they would

790
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 8: take care of it. They did not. They didn't even

791
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 8: offer to. They cut ties with us after the funeral.

792
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 8: With all of this rage that is built up inside me,

793
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 8: I became obsessed with reading all my dad's communications for

794
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 8: the past four years since my parents split, and started

795
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 8: making a very in depth timeline of everything. I started

796
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 8: discovering lies and forming just general WTF questions. Opie's got

797
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 8: her little like red yarn and a pinboard.

798
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 6: Specifically the scene where he looks so fey.

799
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 8: Is to everyone's colluding against my father ope, he continues.

800
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 8: I found out my dad's new girlfriend is a straight

801
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 8: up fraud with stolen valor. I uncovered a major scandal

802
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 8: like criminal offenses that are being swept under the rug

803
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 8: in one of the charitable organizations my father helped run

804
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 8: horrifically found tons of home movies if you catch my drift.

805
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 8: I also found out that my dad knew for years

806
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: that he was passing away and never said a thing.

807
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 8: That was the missing piece to the puzzle that I

808
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 8: needed for everything to click. All right, So knowing all

809
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 8: of that, here's where I might be the ale. I

810
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 8: want to sue, press charges, and out these people in

811
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 8: any way that I can. I want to teach these

812
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 8: people that they cannot be crappy people without having any consequences.

813
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 8: I want revenge. My husband thinks this is a waste

814
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 8: of time and energy. There's nothing that can be done.

815
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 8: I will not win a court case. No one is

816
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 8: going to care even if I have proof. How do

817
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 8: you know that? Yeah?

818
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: I feel like in that case, then you go, okay,

819
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 6: let's just talk to them. Yeah exactly, and see if

820
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 6: I have a case.

821
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you go to a lawyer, you bring

822
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 8: all of that proof. Yeah, and we go from there.

823
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 6: And if he genuinely says you don't only have a case,

824
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: then unfortunately we go with what your husband said.

825
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 8: Agree, agree one hundred percent. No one is going to

826
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 8: care even if I have brute This upsets me so

827
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 8: much because like, why can't you just support me in

828
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 8: my time of grief? Why can't you believe that our

829
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 8: system works. We're suing for the note. It's an open shutcase.

830
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 8: It's just in the air how long it would take

831
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 8: on a repayment of a judgment. This is not consuming

832
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: my life. I'm still a functional adult, taking care of kids,

833
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 8: going to work. But he says I'm being an ale

834
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 8: So am I on my side? Are you on my side?

835
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 8: I could use your help with petty revenge hips for

836
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 8: the owners of the house, the neighbor, the cousin, the girlfriend,

837
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 8: and oh he does have an update. We have gotten

838
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 8: a lawyer nice and already be on the process of

839
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 8: going after the note. It is a very clear, open

840
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 8: and shut wind for us, but the other stuff is

841
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 8: shaky and could go either way with a jury, so

842
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 8: it would be a gamble. My husband and I finally

843
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 8: had a deeper conversation. I saw a Reddit story about

844
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 8: how a couple us to hold each other's hand and

845
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 8: not let go and having a fight. This worked really

846
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 8: well for us and we finally got to the deeper issues.

847
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 8: He is afraid I will financially endanger our family going

848
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 8: after revenge. I told him that really hurt me and

849
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 8: I am disappointed. He would think that maybe I'd just

850
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 8: like fantasizing about the revenge in a situation where I

851
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 8: feel so powerless, talking about it helps me let go.

852
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 8: I joked with him that I am open to all

853
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 8: sorts of revenge, not just financial. At the end of

854
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 8: the day, I really do not care about getting the money.

855
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: I just want things to be karmically balanced. I am

856
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 8: open to alternatives like spice, curses, voodoo dolls, whatever. The

857
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 8: thought of them getting spooked by a shadow person for

858
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 8: the rest of their lives gives me joy, especially since

859
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 8: I know these people are hardcore religious. I told them

860
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 8: I would never put our family in danger like that,

861
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 8: and I know when to cut my losses. He's also

862
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 8: upset that I started smoking again. I started because I

863
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 8: am stressed, and this has been my stress crutch since

864
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 8: I was a teenager. Usually it was a pack or

865
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 8: two and then I would be done for six to

866
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 8: eight months until I got stressed out again. But I

867
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: started smoking regularly in August last year, when my boss

868
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 8: passed away and I was worried about carrying a family

869
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 8: company of thirty employees while they were all grieving. My

870
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 8: dad passed away shortly after, and I've been on the

871
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 8: phone with police and lawyers every other day since then.

872
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 8: My husband thought I picked it up because it made

873
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 8: me feel closer to my dad since he was a smoker.

874
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 8: That aggravated me even more because at this point I'm

875
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 8: just addicted to nicotine and his expectation of me quitting

876
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 8: cold turkey is unreasonable. You might not be able to

877
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 8: quit cold turkey, but you gotta make some like it

878
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 8: doesn't even seem like you're necessarily making any moves.

879
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: And I am worried that we're getting mad at our

880
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: husband for being concerned about your health and your coping.

881
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 8: And now I'm yeah, I am wondering if Opie's husband

882
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 8: has just been like, hey, maybe we don't, you know,

883
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 8: pursue revenge because it's just not good for.

884
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 6: Any stressing me out a lot.

885
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 8: And then he's like, maybe maybe we don't smoke because

886
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 8: it is bad for us, and she's.

887
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 6: Like, ah, yeah, I say, maybe some therapy. Throughout all

888
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 6: of this time, no to proceed or not.

889
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 8: But that is the end of that story.

890
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: My sister in law banned me from their house. Then

891
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: my brother caught her cheating. Oh no, My twenty nine

892
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 6: brother and I are really close. We had some trauma

893
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 6: from our mom during our childhood and we've just grown.

894
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 8: Closer because of it.

895
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 6: Our dad lives within thirty minutes of both of us,

896
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: but we live only four minutes.

897
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 8: From each other. By the way.

898
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: This comes from big Yak fifty seven.

899
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 8: Oh oh, and.

900
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 6: If you want us to make your own stories, go

901
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 6: to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, I'm Dakota,

902
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: and we're here to give good advice goofully, but we

903
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 6: don't have all the answers really know what we would do,

904
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 6: so let us know what you would do in the comments.

905
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 6: And OPI says when I was twenty one, I found

906
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 6: out I couldn't have kids. It was difficult for me

907
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: to hear, but I managed to get over it. I

908
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 6: have a few mental health conditions that mean I'm not

909
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 6: able to work. Luckily, I'm the one in the family

910
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 6: with all the health problems because my brother met his

911
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: wife when they were seventeen.

912
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: That's what is that. That's not lucky. Luckily I have

913
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 4: all the health problems. My brother met as a girl

914
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: at seven.

915
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 8: Luckily I have the health problems.

916
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 6: They were married by twenty one and now have two

917
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 6: wonderful children, both of whom I I absolutely adore. When

918
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: they were born, I was the first person to meet them.

919
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 6: Since we don't have a mom, I was my brother's

920
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 6: mom figure growing up, so I think he kind of

921
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 6: looks at me like a mom and sister. I don't

922
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: have a problem with that at all. It's just the

923
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 6: way we've always managed. When they were born, he called

924
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 6: me and I met them at the hospital and was

925
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 6: there for his wife whenever she needed. The two kids

926
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 6: are wonderful and I.

927
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 8: Love them so much.

928
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 6: Being as I couldn't have my own kids, it was

929
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 6: nice to see what they might have looked like. As

930
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 6: I lived so close and was pretty much always free,

931
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 6: I always babysat my brother and his wife loved that,

932
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 6: and I also loved it. I'm always around their house.

933
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 6: I've noticed that in the past few months, I've been

934
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 6: there almost all day every day. I don't mind that

935
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 6: at all, but sometimes I worry that I might be

936
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 6: overtaking their life a little.

937
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 8: I had a chat with both.

938
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 6: Of them and told them that at any point they

939
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 6: wanted me gone, they just needed to say so. I

940
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 6: didn't want to overstay my welcome. They both told me

941
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 6: not to be silly and said they wouldn't care if

942
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: I camped in their kitchen.

943
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, I'm getting my thermis. I'm getting some

944
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 4: ster nos, set a tent. I'm building up in the

945
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: big two storey tent, building a campfire. Don't tell me

946
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: to camp in the kitchen, because he will.

947
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 6: A few weeks went by since that chat, and in

948
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 6: the last week or two she has been a bit

949
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: off with me. It started with a conversation about a

950
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 6: funny moment in our childhood. My brother and I were

951
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: laughing so hard, and his wife just stood.

952
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 8: Staring at me before rolling her eyes.

953
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 6: I asked if she was okay, and she said she

954
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 6: was sick of being part of a conversation that didn't

955
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: concern her. She said she couldn't relate to it, so

956
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 6: it wasn't fair that we kept doing it. I apologized

957
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: and said I thought it would just be funny for

958
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: her to hear, but I'd be more mindful in the future.

959
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: Nah, don't be more mindful. That's whack. That is crazy.

960
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: That is that is whack behavior.

961
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: And also, like, as a wife, are you not like

962
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: kind of interested about your partner's childhood?

963
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

964
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 6: I love hearing about my partner's showd but.

965
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 4: It's so unrelatable to you, Carly. You weren't there's so true,

966
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: so you shouldn't care. You should actually be really upset.

967
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 6: That's the whole point is, like I wasn't there, so

968
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 6: I want to know. Maybe maybe I'm just two curious guys.

969
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: Sumi, Yeah, yeah, anyway.

970
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 6: There was another moment when I came around and brought

971
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 6: their kids some chocolate buttons. Since my brother's wife was

972
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: at work, I asked my brother if it was okay

973
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 6: for them to have them. He said it was fine.

974
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 6: Then his wife came home ten to fifteen minutes later

975
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 6: and went ballistic at me for feeding them sugar. She

976
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: told me that in the future I needed to call

977
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 6: both of them, my brother and his wife if I

978
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: wanted to.

979
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 8: Come around, not just him.

980
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: I apologized and left. There have been loads of moments

981
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 6: like this, but the most recent and aggravating one was yesterday.

982
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 6: I had been Christmas shopping at a nearby outlet and

983
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 6: brought some fresh cookies for all four of them. I

984
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 6: got myself a box, and I normally do this when.

985
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 8: I go there.

986
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: If that happens to you, and like, your brother's wife

987
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: is like you need to call both of us before

988
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: you come over here. I'd be like, all right, sick,

989
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: I'm not coming over ever anymore. I'm not saying that,

990
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 4: but I'm thinking it, and I'm calling my brother and

991
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: being like, Hey, just so you know, your wife has

992
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: made me feel extremely unwelcome in your home and I

993
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable coming over anymore, So you might want

994
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: to talk to her about that.

995
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's weird.

996
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 6: I stopped at the gas station to call them both.

997
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 6: My brother said it was fine and the kids were

998
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 6: excited to see me. I called his wife, no answer,

999
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 6: called again, no answer. I messaged her and she read

1000
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 6: it but didn't reply.

1001
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so at this point you just go because you

1002
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: can't do that. You can't demand someone talk to you

1003
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 4: and then ignore them when they try.

1004
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 6: I decided to just stop by, not go inside, just

1005
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: drop the cookies at the door so as not to

1006
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 6: aggravate anything. These cookies were fresh and warm, and I

1007
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 6: didn't want to bring them home because they wouldn't taste

1008
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 6: as good. Later, handed the cookies to my brother, gave

1009
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 6: the kids a quick hug, and left. About an hour later,

1010
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 6: I got a message from his wife saying, how effing

1011
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 6: dare you come to my house when I've made it

1012
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 6: very clear you're not welcome unless I've said so. It's

1013
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: effing weird how you constantly come around to talk to

1014
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 6: my husband, sitting there giving him the eye while you're talking.

1015
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: He's married, and those are my fing kids that you're

1016
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 6: constantly playing with mine. This is the last straw, and

1017
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 6: I'd like if you just stayed away from us now.

1018
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 6: We don't want to see you at Christmas.

1019
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: Hey dum dum, I'm his sister. Hey dum, dum, I'm

1020
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: his sister.

1021
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: Think that she's giving eyes to her brother.

1022
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: Oh no, Oh, I like my brother because he's my brother.

1023
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: But you think I want to steal your husband.

1024
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 8: I want to marry my brother.

1025
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: What is Oh no?

1026
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 6: I didn't really know what to so I just messaged

1027
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: my brother and told him to have a chat with

1028
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 6: her because there must have been a misunderstanding somewhere. I

1029
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 6: told him I'd like to clear it up because he's

1030
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 6: my brother, and those are my niece and nephew, who

1031
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 6: I love very much and don't want to never see again.

1032
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 6: Since then, I've been bombarded with calls and messages from

1033
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 6: her and her friends saying that I'm going to cause

1034
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 6: a divorce, that I'm wrecking their marriage, and that I

1035
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 6: shouldn't have got my brother involved. Commenter one. I am

1036
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: the older sister of two brothers. If any woman they

1037
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: were dating treated me like that, they'd immediately tell her

1038
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 6: to step outside, shut the door in her face, and

1039
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 6: then we'd go eat the cookies. Commenter two, not the

1040
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 6: a hole. If I was your brother, I would want

1041
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 6: to know if my wife was accusing my sister of

1042
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 6: having genetic copy pasting type feelings, because who else is

1043
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: she spreading this?

1044
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 8: To take away all that?

1045
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 6: And she's controlling which of his family members.

1046
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 8: Are allowed in his own house.

1047
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 6: Either way, you chop it. She's out of line, and

1048
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 6: we have an update.

1049
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: What do you think I agree with all that? Yeah,

1050
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: and she is out of line and it's crazy that,

1051
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure she's going all ballistic with brother

1052
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: as well and being like I can't believe it, and

1053
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: Brother's just like I just want to have a normal life.

1054
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 8: Please, I just wanted the cookies.

1055
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: I just want to have a wife, and my children.

1056
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 8: Just wanted the fresh baked cook and I want.

1057
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: My sister to be able to give me cookies.

1058
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 6: Please update I thought i'd give an update to clear

1059
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 6: some things up. Some people were questioning why I was

1060
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 6: there all day, every day, and that that could have

1061
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 6: been the problem because I was invading their life first

1062
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 6: of all. In our family growing up, we would visit

1063
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 6: nearby family only one set of grandparents daily for an hour.

1064
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: That's what this started as. When my brother and his

1065
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 6: girlfriend first met, it was like this as I'd already

1066
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 6: moved away. They used to visit me for an hour

1067
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 6: each day, and I'd get some bits to eat and

1068
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 6: some drinks. Sometimes, when my brother was on work trips,

1069
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 6: she would come around on her own and we'd have

1070
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 6: a girl's night. When my niece and nephew were born,

1071
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: I stopped going around only once a week because I

1072
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 6: thought that two newborns were already a lot. But they

1073
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: called me after a couple of weeks asking where I was,

1074
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 6: saying they missed me, and my sister in law was

1075
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 6: messaging me, sending pictures of the kids and telling me

1076
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 6: they missed me. So I started going around for an

1077
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 6: hour each day again.

1078
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 8: Over the last year.

1079
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 6: Every time I'd go to leave, one of them, sister

1080
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: in law included would say, what no stay for dinner?

1081
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 6: Or ah, how could you leave this face while holding

1082
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 6: up a kid? So I ended up staying. I was

1083
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 6: there all day every day because of them, not for me.

1084
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 6: I didn't have a problem with it, since I don't

1085
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 6: do much at home anyway, but still I'd like to

1086
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 6: go home and relax. It didn't matter, though, because I

1087
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 6: love my niece and nephew a lot. I sent my

1088
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 6: brother the screenshot of the text and told him that

1089
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: he needed to talk to her. Now I feel awful

1090
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 6: because I feel like I'm responsible for the outcome of this.

1091
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 6: They had a chat, and apparently when the kids were

1092
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 6: younger and I was there a lot, they built an

1093
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Speaker 6: attachment to me that's stronger than with her. She wasn't

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Speaker 6: bothered by it because she was cheating on my brother

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Speaker 6: with a work colleagues.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, Hello, Hi, you're the worst and I don't

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Speaker 4: like you.

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Speaker 6: But what a turn at the end of the store.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. She's a stinky little lady.

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Speaker 6: So stinky little lady who hates cookies.

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00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: She probably became a much stinkier little lady after she

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00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: started cheating on her husband. Wow, and she became very stinky.

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 4: You cannot contain the stink.

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00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 6: No, the stench radiates. But now he's moved away and

1105
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 6: she no longer has the side piece to help her

1106
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 6: ignore that. She's been trying to ignore the fact that

1107
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 6: the kids like me better, but apparently last week at bedtime,

1108
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 6: her kids asked where I was and said they missed

1109
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 6: me when I read stories, and it just made her flip.

1110
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 6: My brother told her she'd have to deal with the

1111
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 6: fact that I'm in their life and that I'm his sister,

1112
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 6: but he's also not sure if he wants to stay

1113
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 6: with her at all after finding out she was.

1114
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 4: Cheated unbelievable wrinkle after like she cheated on him and

1115
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 4: is now looking at his own sister as a potential

1116
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: threat to their right. It's like, girl, you are the danger.

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Speaker 6: You are the threat, you made the whole threat. I'm

1118
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: obviously staying away for a while now so they can

1119
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 6: sort it out. But I think my brother is leaning

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00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 6: towards a divorce and now I just feel awful. And

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Speaker 6: that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 4: Hey, John Ogi host here, We're gonna get back to

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Speaker 4: this episode, but a quick three minute break of ads

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Speaker 4: from a sponsor's keeping the show alive. My brother is

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Speaker 4: crazy about my pregnancy. Now he'll never meet my baby.

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Speaker 8: Is he having the baby?

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00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: No, he's just crazy for it.

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Speaker 6: Eh.

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Speaker 4: For context, I female nineteen. I'm living at home with

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Speaker 4: my mother and younger brothers, while my partner, Mail twenty

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00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: two is securing a new job and looking for a

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00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 4: house for us in a new town further west. By

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Speaker 4: the way. This comes from user panic and confusion, and

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Speaker 4: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

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Speaker 4: the our slash Okay storytime subrendit. I'm Dakota, I'm Kyle,

1136
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Speaker 4: and we're gonna give you good advice goofly, but we

1137
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 4: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do,

1138
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: So tell us what you would do in the comments.

1139
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Speaker 4: Nop shows I got pregnant around early February despite being

1140
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: on regular birth control, after a Wiener wrapper broke during

1141
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: a family holiday, a completely unplanned pregnancy. Despite this, we're

1142
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: both very excited to welcome our baby into the world.

1143
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: We've always planned on having kids, just definitely not this soon.

1144
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: My youngest brother, thirteen, is the golden child who gets

1145
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 4: away with anything and everything, including his overbearingly bad behavior.

1146
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: You've always butted heads to the point where my other

1147
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: younger brother has had to step in. There have even

1148
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: been times where I've had to lock myself in the

1149
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 4: bathroom just to get away from him because he keeps

1150
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: following me around, talking at me to prove his point

1151
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: in an art argument. He's even caused me several mental

1152
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: breakdowns by triggering my PTSD about our now estranged father.

1153
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: But he has been really improving lately, going to regular

1154
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: psychology appointments, being I really kind towards me, and even

1155
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: helping me with things around the house, actually making a

1156
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 4: real effort to fix our relationship and be kinder in general.

1157
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 4: Things were really looking up, and we even spent a

1158
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: lot of time together during the family holiday and had

1159
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 4: lots of fun. He hadn't had a single outburst for

1160
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 4: months or caused any fights between us. I truly thought

1161
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: we were finally going to get along, That is, until

1162
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 4: he found out I'm pregnant. Silly me for thinking things

1163
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: could really change, right. He's been a down roight nasty, truly,

1164
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 4: oh monsta. Constantly he's stirring things up against me. He

1165
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 4: doesn't miss a chance to remind me how irresponsible I

1166
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: am forgetting myself knocked up every time I ask for space,

1167
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 4: or for him to stop doing something he's purposely doing

1168
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: to irritate me. He retorts back with stuff like I

1169
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: can do what I want.

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Speaker 8: I live here. It's not my fault.

1171
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: You got yourself praigant before getting a house. He constantly

1172
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: points out how I've sinned by having spicy sleep before marriage,

1173
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: and my pregnancy wouldn't have to be everyone else's problem

1174
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: if I had just waited. We all grew up super religious,

1175
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: but these days my mother could care less about such

1176
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: arbitrary rules, and he's actually excited for a grand baby.

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Speaker 4: It's our grandmother who's strict about religion. Honestly advice right

1178
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: off the bat, literally completely ignored this kid. Just refuse

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00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: to engage.

1180
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Speaker 6: I immediately, And maybe it's just the way that you were.

1181
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: The voice that you were giving him got the vibes

1182
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 6: from finding Nemo of that one fish that's like, I'm obnoxious.

1183
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's obnoxious on purpose, So just don't engage. It's

1184
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 4: not satisfying when there's no engagement. I've been trying to

1185
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: be patient with him, thinking maybe he's just feeling jealous

1186
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: that he won't be the youngest in our family and

1187
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: won't get all our mother's attention anymore, which is probably true.

1188
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: Despite all of his little comments and attempts at getting

1189
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: me to start fights with him and purposely doing things

1190
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 4: to agitate me, I've remained as calm as possible and

1191
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 4: simply removed myself from the situations for both my own

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: peace of mind and to not disturb the strained functionality

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: of the household. But the other day, when I was

1194
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: talking to our other brother about what gender my baby

1195
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: might be and name ideas my partner had thought of,

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00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: he alright told me something rude about my baby. At

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00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 4: this I finally lost it, Like, how dare he insult

1198
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: my child like that? Insult me all you want, sure

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Speaker 4: a thing. I can deal with that until I get

1200
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: to move out, But to insult my unborn child just

1201
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: because you're feeling insecure something, No way, buddy, I screamed

1202
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: at him, telling him I'm sick and tired of how

1203
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: unfair he's been towards me lately. And guess what now

1204
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: he's gonna know to always make fun of the baby

1205
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 4: because that's what makes you upset.

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Speaker 6: I wonder, though, if he'll actually be a little bit

1207
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: taken aback that. She even yelled back, I like it

1208
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 6: could kind of go either way, Like if she was

1209
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 6: scary enough, he might stop, but if he's also like

1210
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 6: found the breaking point.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's gotta be.

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Speaker 6: Let's find these people that don't get mad. Though, then

1213
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 6: when you see the mad, you're like, oh.

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00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: Let's find out. We got into a huge fight, and

1215
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: he tried to threaten me. I brought up stuff he

1216
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 4: had done to me before he started going to therapy

1217
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: and how I wasn't afraid to call the cops on

1218
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: a kid if I had to. He continued screaming back

1219
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: at me, at which point I pushed him away to

1220
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Speaker 4: create some distance. I can't let you get close. I've

1221
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: never defended myself before. He was shocked, speechless, eyes wide, mouth,

1222
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: finally shot. I took the opportunity to shove him away

1223
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: so I could get out from between him and the wall,

1224
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: and stated firmly when I moved out, I'm not letting

1225
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 4: you have anything to do with me or my child.

1226
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 4: You will never be allowed to see it or go

1227
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: near it ever. Do you understand me? And I left

1228
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Speaker 4: the house to get some fresh air. Of course, when

1229
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: Mom got home from the grocery shopping, my little brother

1230
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: immediately went and cried. Dady told her all about it,

1231
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: an exaggerated version, for sure, and he had everything to

1232
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: prove his sob story. My mom rings me up, yelling

1233
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: and cussing at me and telling me I need to

1234
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Speaker 4: be the bigger person.

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Speaker 8: Okay, wait, what proof did he have?

1236
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: My feelings?

1237
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Speaker 8: You can see them.

1238
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 6: They're so hurt.

1239
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 8: My feelings is so hurt. My tear drops they fall.

1240
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 8: She's so mean to me, she said.

1241
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: I will always make you the stinky man. I don't know,

1242
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: and that one I don't know. I don't know what

1243
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 4: proof yet. I tried to explain my side of the story,

1244
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 4: but she was having none of it. Crazy. Your mom's

1245
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 4: yelling at you the pregnant one.

1246
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 6: Also crazy, that mom, who knows that brother has had

1247
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 6: these problems in the past, isn't like, oh, yeah, that's

1248
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 6: your brother.

1249
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 4: Well it needs to be like, just because someone has

1250
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: behavioral issues doesn't give an excuse from their behavior.

1251
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 6: I just meant like that she's immediately believing you because

1252
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 6: that's what your brother's done before.

1253
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, she told me that it was no excuse and

1254
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: I had no right to fight her precious little baby,

1255
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: even if he was being a prisk. She told me

1256
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: what I had said said was going way too far,

1257
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 4: and that my brother would be having contact with my

1258
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 4: child regardless of how I felt about him or what

1259
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: he'd done in the past. That if she was going

1260
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 4: to be in my child's life, then he would be too,

1261
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: and I had no say in the matter because he

1262
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 4: would be a good uncle and deserves a relationship with

1263
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: his niece or nephew. He then went on a whole

1264
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 4: guilt trip, reminding me how much my brother has been

1265
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: trying so hard to better himself with therapy and helping

1266
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: out with the community through the youth center at the

1267
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: local church, how well we were getting along on holiday,

1268
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 4: and how much he's been helping her out lately, and

1269
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 4: then basically told me I was overreacting about everything because

1270
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: of pregnancy hormones and I'd get over it all once

1271
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: the baby was born. I scoffed and told her, plain

1272
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: and simple, I was not ever letting the satan spawn

1273
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: near my child. Then I hung up. Well, she's been

1274
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: sour with me for days and even started making her

1275
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: own underhanded comments towards me. Now she makes me feel

1276
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 4: bad for what I said and trying to make me

1277
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 4: apologize to my brother. She says, I'm being unfair and

1278
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 4: a witch. So guys, am I a witch for finally

1279
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 4: standing up for myself and standing my ground on not

1280
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: letting my brother have contact. When I move out and

1281
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 4: the baby is born and there is an update, I think,

1282
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 4: like if we take a breath and just to say, hey,

1283
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: I'm not letting you have any contact until you change

1284
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: the way you act with me.

1285
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that moving out could still be a

1286
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 6: good idea to get that distance. If you can move

1287
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 6: out and then like reassessing as things.

1288
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: Go, because he's still thirteen thirteen in therapy with behavioral problems.

1289
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he definitely needs to like not be threatening

1290
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 6: me and my child before he can see the child.

1291
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: There needs to be tangible changes to the behavior and

1292
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: then you can see me and the baby and be

1293
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 4: around us. But until then, my partner went no contact

1294
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 4: with his awful parents and his family disowned him because

1295
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: of this. So no, I can't stay with them. I

1296
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: have no other family I can stay with. My grandmother's

1297
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: place was destroyed in the recent floods. I'm no contact

1298
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: with my father and have no idea where he is.

1299
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: I have no friends in the state that I can

1300
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 4: stay with. My partner is staying with the guy he

1301
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: met in high school that lives in the town we're

1302
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: moving to. It's a studio apartment and he's sleeping on

1303
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: the couch. They don't know each other all that well,

1304
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: and I don't know the guy at all. The women's

1305
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: shelter in my town is run by the church that

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: my brother attends and volunteers for. Everyone at church believes

1307
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: he's a saint, and I don't trust them to keep

1308
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 4: him away from me. Well, it might be good if

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: you go to the shelter and then people will see, Oh,

1310
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 4: this guy is treating his sister like garbage.

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: I sustained a serious shoulder injury at work a few

1313
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 4: months back, and my pregnancy is considered high risk. Even

1314
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 4: if I wanted to work, I'm literally not allowed to.

1315
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: We are currently trying to move out, and my midwives

1316
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: are aware of the situation. They've taken down notes and

1317
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 4: that's about it. I live in Australia. We have centrelinks,

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: so I'm not completely without income. On top of this,

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: I've got workers comp for the shoulder injury. I'm also Indigenous,

1320
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: so I get a little extra for healthcare. All and

1321
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: antenatal and ultrasound appointments and other doctor visits are paid

1322
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 4: for by the government. Also, all hospital bills are covered

1323
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: by Medicare, and I have odd HD, so I get

1324
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 4: free therapy and support AIDS. Money is not a big

1325
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: concern right now. Yes, I plan on going back to

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: work once we're settled into the new house and i'mtically

1327
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 4: cleared to do so. I really don't want to have

1328
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 4: to rely on Centerlink forever. It makes me feel gross.

1329
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do, sweetie, that's HOWRD. That's

1330
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: a real hard situation to be in. I might just

1331
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 4: go to the shelter if I've got nowhere else to go,

1332
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 4: or try to just figure it out at home. I

1333
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 4: know it's hard to forgive.

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01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 6: I think you got to get out of the house.

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 6: That's causing a lot.

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01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 4: I think I know that you are justified and being upset,

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01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: but I think just being like, hey, I'm sorry everything

1338
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 4: has happened the way it has. You know, this is

1339
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: hard on all of us, just kind of you know,

1340
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 4: because in life there come moments always where you will

1341
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 4: have to swallow your feelings and your pride and have

1342
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 4: to say and make decisions for the greater peace of

1343
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 4: a given situation.

1344
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 8: That's fine and dandy and all.

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be going no contact with little brother,

1346
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: and after all that has happened, I've also decided to

1347
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: go very low contact with Mom as soon as I'm

1348
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: able to move out and have a secure living arrangement.

1349
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: My partner is aware of the situation. He wants to

1350
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 4: file police reports with evidence that we do have against

1351
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: my brother. He promised not to do anything until I

1352
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: moved out and say first in case little brother tries

1353
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: to retaliate. And that is the end of that story.