1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from four to 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us every 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Let's get this, punnies. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: Radio, our number three on a very spirited, trash talking Tuesday. 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Man, that was some good stuff. Oh yeah, I got 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: some time coming up to trash more. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Rob G. Man, they they were coming for your head. 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Man, y'all got philosophy differences you too, y'all need to 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: work out you robs. 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: No, rob G, you better get with the program. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: That's what I said when I saw yesterday's rundown. Like, man, 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 5: y'all better get with the program. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 4: I'm off. Don't mean the show is off. 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: See, that's what I'm talking about here. I am What 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: did I tell what I tell you? 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 6: Today? 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: Rob G said, Man, I really like yesterday shaw. I'm 23 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: glad Rob's back. Didn't I say that? 24 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: He did say that? 25 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: All right? 26 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: We didn't even know we need to hurry up and 27 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: break your fast, so we can go ahead the cheesecake 28 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: and catch up. 29 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: That's coming up in about a month, So we're gonna 30 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: do that, all right. 31 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker Kevin Washington on 32 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: the Trash Talking Tuesday, excited to announce our brand new 33 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: YouTube channel. We talked about it. That's right for the show. 34 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: The Odd Couple has its own YouTube channel. 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Coming up in about twenty seven minutes, foul 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: Affair with JR. Gamble of course as the managing editor 46 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: from the from mlbbro dot com. And also we have 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: a last call that's coming up. Well, that's right, but. 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: I guess LEO want to be the last call too. Yes, 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: that was interesting. Do you think people are listening. They listening. 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: They're trying to get in, no doubt about it. 51 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: But Rob G, the goat of the NFL quarterbacks, had 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: some interesting stuff to say. Tom Brady talked, No, the 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: real goat was talking four and zero in Super Bowls, 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: eleven touchdowns, no picks, three MVPs in the Super Bowl. 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: And guess what. 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 4: He won two Super Bowls with Jerry Rice, he won 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: two without Jerry Rice. And in two of the four 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: Super Bowls, Rob G, he needed a touchdown to win 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: the game, not a fifty eight yard field goal or something. 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: He needed a touchdown to win and won two Super Bowls. 61 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: It sounds like you like him almost as much you 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 5: like Eli Manning. I mean, you know, you know they 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: called Joe Monte to Eli the eighties. That's what they 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: call him on the street. I'm just playing, we love 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: Joe Montanna front of the show. Joe Montanna gave us 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: a viral moment on the Eye Couple. He sure did 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 5: shout out to Joe Montana. No, Joe, you know my 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 5: theory When I. 69 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: Called it Tom Brady to Lot and I said it 70 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: to Joe Montana. 71 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: I've seen that, all right. 72 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: That's a classic Joe Montana is there's there's three guys 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: that if you say are the goat, I'm not like, 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be mad at Joe Montana, never gonna 75 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: be mad at Tom Brady. And I think Joe John 76 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Elway if you put him in the go Now, just. 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 5: Hold that thought because you might be mad at Joe 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 5: Montana today. Hold on Joe about to get this smoke, 79 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 5: because Joe Montana was on the Pat McAfee show Bruce 80 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: arians feeling he's gonna have a regular spot apparently with them. 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: And here's the exchange. They asked Joe Montana. 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, if you're building a NFL franchise, got to 83 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: pick your quarterback. And you can't pick Brock Perdy because 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: you know he's a Niner through and through. So you 85 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: win Brock party. 86 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: First. 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: You got three quarterback choices, give us your top three. 88 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: Here's the exchange. 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 5: If you were a general manager head coach that pick 90 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: the top three quarterbacks you want to start your franchise with, 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: and why like and not Rock Berdy? 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: You can't take Brock Boom. 93 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Okay, Brock is your number one pick. 94 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: We know that, yep. So you love Rock Berdy. You 95 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: love brock Perty. 96 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 7: I'm taking I'm taking the guy in Buffalo, okay, Josh Allen, Josh, 97 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 7: and the guy that surprised me that I thought would 98 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 7: obviously Joe Burrows, another guy I like a lot, and 99 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 7: and believe it or not, I like the guy in 100 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 7: with the Chargers just uh yeah, I think they just 101 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 7: kind of they've kind of kind of gone by the 102 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: wayside there, but uh, you know, I just I just 103 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 7: like the way they all those three guys. 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: Are, uh you are right over there, could you No? 105 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: No, you smoke it over there. And let me tell 106 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 4: you this, I think Joe Montana to good. I've always 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: said that, and I'm mad with respect for him. And 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 4: when he played and you know how the game was, 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: how how many time he got beat up against the 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: Giants defense like it was a different game, and he 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: was incredible, he really was. Eleven touchdowns, no picks, and 112 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: four super Bowls. 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: He was a standard. 114 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: Okay, But this list and his list to me, once 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: you put Justin Herbert on there, I can't listen to it. 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: I really got it. I got an issue, and I 117 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: get it. He checks all the boxes. He's six foot 118 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: three or four, he's got a right six five, got 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: got a big arm. 120 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: All that looks like a quarterback? 121 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: Is Bill? 122 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: I get all that. 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: He just hadn't done anything. I'm sorry to warrant being 124 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: on that list. I just cannot Lamar won a couple 125 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: of MVPs. Wow, shocking. Okay, you want to say that 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: from the traditional But your issue, and I want you 127 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: to go first, is I do know, yo, No, my issue, 128 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: but you have an issue with cool Joe, don't. 129 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I do have a super cool joint. He cannot be 130 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: any cooler. And I've been around him, you know, just 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: covering super Bowls. Great dude, for sure, and arguably the 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: go I'm not mad at that, absolutely not. However, this 133 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: ain't the goat. Let's go now. Rob g Is stopped 134 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: short of saying a few things. He went on to say, 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: they go, who ho ho? Ain't somebody missing? Talking about 136 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahons, and he said, I think I would have 137 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: had him if he was much, if he was younger, 138 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: although they're not getting hit as much today, so he 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: probably played forever. So yeah, I guess maybe I should 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: have had it patting there, but he was cushing in 141 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: his age because he's Patrick Mahomes and the difference it 142 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: will turn thirty this month, Okay, but the difference in 143 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: age is Rob g right a, yeah, he's a years 144 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: older than Josh all year, not even a full year. 145 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is twenty seven and Joe Burrow will be 146 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty nine December, so he's a year older. 147 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm not dune cooking Joe. 148 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: We got Joe on the plate, forgot Joe on the menu? Forday, 149 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: let me saw t Joe real quick. Now I got 150 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: a list for you, my friend Rob Parker, Rob g 151 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: who I'm beef with right now? I'm trash talking Tuesday 152 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the show. You know how many 153 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: guys won Super Bowls after age of thirty? 154 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: Clock this. 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady won six Super Bowls after the age of 156 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: thirty six, Peyton Manny won one, Aaron Rodgers one one 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: at thirty one, Russell Wilson was thirty, Joe Montana one 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: two after thirty did he forget? John l Way won 159 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: two at thirty seven and thirty eight. I mean the 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: list goes on Drew Brees thirty one. So my point 161 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: is you absolutely and your favorite Eli Manning got one 162 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: at thirty one. So what does he mean, he's little ols. 163 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I ain't rolling Patrick Mahomes. The other guys on the 164 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: list haven't done anything. Josh Allen, who is immensely talented, 165 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: but he hadn't done anything. Justin Herbert, we don't get 166 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: me started. That's the guy who has not really done anything. 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I just can't get over. Like he makes everybody's list. 168 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: And then to leave Lamar off for Justin Herbert. I 169 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: understand Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert kind of fit the 170 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: traditional nineteen eighties quarterback that he's looking for that plays 171 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: in a you know, a straight out of Central Casting. 172 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm putting the quarterback in the movie. 173 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: You'd put Joe Burrow or you would put Justin but 174 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: Lamar and Patrick. 175 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: He watched Lamar last year. 176 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: It's insane what Lamar has done for the last three 177 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: four years. What do you have forty one touchdowns in 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: before me started? Man, Yes, absolutely ridiculous. Those two should 179 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: have been on the list now at last point, drop. 180 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: I know there's kind of the four. The big four, 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: right is Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. 182 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: So somebody was gonna get left off when you ask 183 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: him three. But to me leaving off Patrick and Lamar 184 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: was Joe respectfully Joe. 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: Now, Joe, I'm gonna agree with Joe on one thing. 186 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: I can see why he left off Patrick Mahomes. And 187 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with age. If you just 188 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: want to be honest and where these quarterbacks are going, 189 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: the other guys are ascending and Patrick Mahomes is descending. Okay, 190 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you go. I'm just saying, be honest. 191 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: With the stats and the numbers, it's a it's not 192 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: a career Lifetime Achievement award he's talking about right now, 193 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: if you're looking at it. And my argument all the 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: time is that most people aren't honest enough to tell 195 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: you that Patrick Mahomes is not the same quarterback. The 196 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 4: numbers beared out the idea last year that in games 197 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: that he played last year, the Chiefs were fifteen and 198 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: one team and one. 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: In a quarterback league. 200 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: And a guy who people are always saying when they 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: do the polls, he's the number one quarterback they and 202 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: yet he didn't get one MVP vote first place vote 203 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 4: last year, not one that speaks volumes in a quarterback 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: league and against Patrick Mahomes. 205 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: And if you look, just an honest look. I'm not 206 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: talking about his career. 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: He's in a Hall of Famer already, so I'm not 208 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: one of these guys I'm trying to pooh poo it 209 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: and discount his start to his career. But the last 210 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: two years, this is not the Patrick Mahomes that started 211 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: the league. You know that when he started the league 212 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: that electrified and people looked at it. This is a 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: dink dunk, non descript five yards of pass like it's 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: somebody we don't even recognize. And yes, they keep winning 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: and they've gotten the Super Bowls and I get all that, 216 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: but it ain't on the backs of Patrick Mahomes as 217 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: it used to be. 218 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: He was must see TV. 219 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: That team was incredible. Here's what I don't agree with 220 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: you at. What I don't agree is it's the same thing. 221 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Why to me, when we talk a lot of times 222 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: you're talking basketball. One of the things I liked about, 223 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: you know, like Luca with the Mavericks for those you know, 224 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: a handful of years. 225 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: What I liked about Lebron. 226 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: I like guys that when the team is great, cool, 227 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: we got a great chance to do some great things. 228 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: When the team ain't that great, we still got a 229 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: chance to do some great things. And to me, that's 230 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: what I like about Patrick Mahomes. When the team is great, 231 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: were putting up thirty forty a game, great when the 232 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: team was barely scoring you know, twenty dagget, we're gonna 233 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: go fifteen to two and fifteen and one. It might've 234 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: been sixteen and one if he played that last game. 235 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: How to me, I can't knock you for that. I 236 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: give you more credit. When you got guys coming in 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: and out, you got a bunch of injuries. You know 238 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: you've got a good defense, so you know how to 239 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: lean on them. You're not force it up. To me, 240 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: that's more of a compliment that I can play in 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: multiple ways, because we've seen where guys can only play 242 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: one way, and if you can stop that one way, 243 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: they're hurt. And to me, I like to see that 244 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes guys in and out. I'm not gonna be 245 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: able to make all the plays, but damn when I 246 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: need to make a play, rob g One of my 247 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: favorite stats last year was what it was third down 248 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: conversion for first downs. You know who was number one, 249 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahons at fifty three percent. 250 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: Okay, but if you see that stating people who vote 251 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: for the halt for the MVP because he. 252 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Wasn't an MVP caliber player at all. Lamar Jackson should 253 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 1: have been MVP. We both agreed, but I told you 254 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: Joshallow was gonna win it because of fatigue. 255 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: You don't want to hear me. Josh Allen won because 256 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: of fatigue? Rob Parker, what else is it? 257 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: Because it's because they're friendly to get the players who 258 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: were friendly with Joe Burrow, Dan Orlowski? 259 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: What like? 260 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: This was his mission? I'm dead serious. It was about 261 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: friendship and being buddies. How did you change your vote? 262 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: He should have been first Team All Pro. 263 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Two because people, well people are tired of them, but 264 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Those two had MVP and even Joe Burrow 265 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: had an MVP candidate season. So my point is he 266 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be MVP to still be the best. 267 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has what two MVPs? I believe in his 268 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: career if I'm not or two off pros? I think 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: it is and something like that, something where you would 270 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: think he'd have more considering how great he is, but 271 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't, but yet he's still the goat. Joe Montana 272 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: can argument say he's a god. I'm not mad at 273 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: that at all. So Patrick Mahomes didn't have to beat 274 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: the MVP to still be the best. 275 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: All right? 276 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven ninety nine? Off far make the need 277 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: to make Joe Montana's list for sure? Come on, Joe. 278 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: Was Joe wrong in leaving Patrick Mahomes off his list? Yes? 279 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: Or was he right? 280 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: And I say right, I would put Lamar should have 281 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: been on the list rather than Justin Herbert and not 282 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. He has had two back to back down 283 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: years and I'm just talking about listen numbers, like, look 284 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: at the numbers. I'm not hating on him or trying 285 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: to discredit his career. Just be honest and fair and 286 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: look at the numbers. Was Joe Montana wrong leaving Patrick 287 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: Mahomes off the list or was he right? 288 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: One game? To save your life? 289 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Rome you taking Josh Allen, Lamar Jacks or Joe Burrainy 290 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: over him? 291 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 4: That's not what it commas is yes or no? I'm 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: taking yes and no taking Lamar. That's a black quarterback, 293 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: Rob You know what I said? 294 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: That's your one? Okay, that's your one? Is that a 295 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: token Lamar? 296 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: Okay? All right? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox 297 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty three sixty nine. 298 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: It will be interesting to see do you guys agree 299 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: or disagree with Joe Montana on Patrick Mahomes not being 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: a top three quarterback. 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: If you were. 302 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: Starting a franchise, we'll do that and much more. It 303 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: is a trash talking Tuesday. Rob Parker kelvin Washington right 304 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: here on Fox Sports Radio. 305 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Stick and stay unless you have a token black quarterback 306 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: like Rob. 307 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: In the us of A. 308 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 309 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 310 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 311 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: listen live. 312 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: Hey, it's host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller 313 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. 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But I'm gonna 328 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: move on, Rob G and shout out to Leo with 329 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: smoke next week. 330 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: Leo, Leo wasn't playing around with Mas bring me back 331 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: my odd couple radio show. 332 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna some smoke with Leo Ach and e stiff 333 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Back Joyce not cooperating. Sound like I'm talking about myself 334 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: right now. Some days your body is just like noping. 335 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: On those days, Luckily there's a leave with just one pill. 336 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: A lead provides up to twelve hours of pain relief 337 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: so you can keep moving. Use as directed. 338 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: On the way. We have fiul or Fair with JR. Gamble. 339 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Be looking forward to that here coming up in about 340 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: four or five minutes or so, as well as in 341 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: last call towards the end of the show. 342 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: That's right eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. If 343 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: you want to jump in, Bob G, jump in here now. 344 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: I got a question for you guys with his Joe 345 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: Montana list. 346 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: Tony mont Tony what Sorry? 347 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: The three guys he picked, two of them play like 348 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 5: the classic quarterback position, the way that you know you 349 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: grew up saying, hey, he's a big, strong pocket quarterback. 350 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: He's making his reads, he's accurate. Yeah, yeah, that would 351 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: be Joe Burrow, which is the ebitimy of that, and 352 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: justin Herbert Josh Allen is like the freak show kind 353 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: of a thing because he's there's only so many guys 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 5: in the NFL historically with his size and arm strength. 355 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: So I guess you understan and why he'd be like, oh, 356 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: he was grown in a lab. I would love to 357 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 5: mold this guy. Do you think it comes down to 358 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 5: personal preference with Joe Montana or can you really see? No, 359 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: these are definitely guys I would build a franchise a record. 360 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: I think you would think it'd be Lamar Jackson. 361 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: No, I think it's personal because you're talking about one 362 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: of the more precise, high percentage Joe Montana ain't running 363 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, he ain't running from nothing quarterback, And I 364 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: think it comes down to what you like. It reminds 365 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: me of Chris Paul. If you talk to a lot 366 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: of point guards or historic point guards, they liked him. Man, 367 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: he's a laser point guard. He's the last true point 368 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: guard in the NBA. You know, they look at him 369 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: more favorably because they look at it as the truest 370 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: point guard left and obviously somebody's last year blah blah blah, 371 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: but they look at him that way. 372 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: So I think part of Joe Montana. 373 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks at like when I close my eyes 374 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: in my sixty some odd years of life, I think 375 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: of a quarterback. That's what it looks like. And so 376 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: I just think Lamar is so unique. Lamar is so 377 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: different that he might not be because if you look 378 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: at what Lamar winning percentage touchdown in interception ratio, it's 379 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: all it's all insane. What seventy percent of that's correc you, Robi, Let. 380 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: Me get things because let me get the updated number. 381 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Because last season, remember I kept hitting you one of 382 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: my favorite stats of all time, rob what I used 383 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: to hit you with it two at the time. I 384 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: have to look it up now what it is because 385 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: after the last season he Lamar is like forty two 386 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: and one against the NFC. 387 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you hear it out? Just on that's a 388 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: crazy number. 389 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: I gotta look up the latest that is the crew 390 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: that is absurd. I need to be in the Smithsonian 391 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: and the NFL entire conference. 392 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: That makes no sense eight seven, seven ninety nine on five. Well, 393 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: people I. 394 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: Don't think realize about Lamar Jackson. We're still a ways 395 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 5: away from it. But because he's in the middle of 396 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 5: his prime, if and when he wins his first Super Bowl, 397 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: there's gonna be some really uncomfortable conversations because his resume 398 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 5: point blank period. Obviously, Tom Brady's unique because hes got 399 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: what seven you can argue that he's the best quarter 400 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 5: or the greatest quarterback whoever lives. 401 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: Most decorated. Yeah, I mean like you're gonna say, oh, 402 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: he's a. 403 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: Three time All Pro, two time MVP at MINIMUMCHEE three 404 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: four being unanimous by one vote, the highest passer rating 405 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 5: in any game, Like you're gonna be looking. You're like, gosh, 406 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 5: and he's got a Super Bowl and it's like, well, yeah, 407 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 5: he was better than Aaron Rodgers. He was better than 408 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 5: Dan Like even if you think that, to me, Aaron 409 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: Rodgers the best quarterback I've ever seen. People like Payton 410 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 5: Mann and the best. 411 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Like you see what Tom Brady said, Yeah, he picked 412 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Aaron rob Just like if you just look at a 413 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: peer quarterback Rogers peek, Aaron Rodgers could rune the. 414 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 5: Narrative around Lamar Jackson's always been Yeah, he's a great runner, 415 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: but he's not a great quarterback. But if he wins 416 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, whenever he gets that one, he's gonna 417 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: make a lot of people very uncomfortable with the way 418 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: that he's discussed all time. 419 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something, Robs for him to not 420 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: be a passer. 421 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: Man, forty one passing touchdowns, that's not even including his 422 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: rushing four forty one and gee, if you were a passer, 423 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: I think you turn the ball over a lot interception wise. 424 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: Four and half of him wasn't even his fault. 425 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Three three hit receivers, three hit receivers first, Rob g 426 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: think about that. 427 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous and he just gotten Yeah, I just listen, man, 428 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: he's the best player in the NFL. To me, I've 429 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: said it. You've heard me say the million times on 430 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: the Rob feels the same way. You know, I believe 431 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes plays a position better. If I needed a 432 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: game like tonight, who's gonna win? Give me Patrickman. But 433 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: if you're talking about throughout the season, who's the best player, 434 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes. 435 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: And the idea that he's not a good passer. 436 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: His quarterback rating was one nineteen, basically one twenty was 437 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: one nineteen. 438 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: And what is it? 439 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: Isn't it one of the top four? Yes? 440 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: He was. 441 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't it like Aaron Rodgers has two of them? 442 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 6: Right? 443 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: What was? 444 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: What is it? Rob g and two? 445 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: One one alright? And Lamar has the other one that 446 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: those are the top four quarterback waitings in the history 447 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: of the NFL. 448 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 5: Rapid fire. If Lamar wins the Super Bowl this season, 449 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: Lamar Drew Brees Lamar or John Alway? 450 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: Hold up, hold on, hold up, Lamar, you gotta give me. 451 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 5: John Lamar, Dan Marino, Lamar, Lamar, Aaron Rodgers. They're resumes. 452 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: It would be like right there with each other. 453 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: Aaron, I do believe still has the highest quarterback waiting 454 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: and right now he has four m vps. 455 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 8: And he has four m vps. Yeah, I would give 456 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 8: Aaron Lamar, Payton Manning Peyon Man's got five. Payton got five, right, yes, Lamar, 457 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 8: Joe Montana four and oh, eleven touchdowns, no pick so quickly. 458 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 8: If he wins one, he's automatically in the top five. 459 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, he would move because of the MVPs, because of enough, 460 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 9: because I know I'm getting twelve wins, you know what 461 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 9: I mean, Like I'm getting eleven wins, twelve wins, crazy 462 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 9: amount of rushing yards. 463 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: But like to be able to I'm big on what 464 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: can I pencil in? What can I just right here? Boom? 465 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: I know this is happening, and that's what he's created 466 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: throughout his career. Rob Gie, that just pencil this in. Now, 467 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: I needed to start penciling some playoff wins. 468 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: He has to more. Can't be well, you got to 469 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: have a run that let me put it that way. 470 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: He's got to have a run because if he just 471 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: sneaks in one and goes back to what he is, 472 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be enough. 473 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: All right. We got file affair with j R. 474 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Gamble coming up right after our man Steve de Saga 475 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: gets us what's trending Steve. 476 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 477 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 478 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 479 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: listen live. 480 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: That's try. 481 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 4: It is foul a fair. 482 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: Here on the arch couple of Fox Sports Radio Secment, 483 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: we go around the diamond discuss all the biggest headlines 484 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 5: in Major League Baseball. Nerd do so properly, we had 485 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: to bring in a guy who's so well renowned in 486 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 5: the baseball circles. He's the original big dumper. None other bro, 487 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 5: his dumping might not be home. Yeah, but what's up Jr? 488 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 10: Yeah that's right. I'm feeling good, almost as good as 489 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 10: George Springer. 490 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, he's ripping. George's had a great year. 491 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 10: Hold on, hold on fellas one one second. How you doing, Rob? 492 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 10: How you doing? Kelvin? Kelvin? What what's the deal my man? 493 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 10: Because I listened to you on the radio every day. Yeah, 494 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 10: and he seems like you know baseball pretty well to me. 495 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 10: You know you're well rounded. You want the leading young 496 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 10: voices in this game. 497 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: You want to know about the Tigers? 498 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 10: How could my can't get on until baseball? Let's Rob's on. 499 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: See they're smoking you, Rob, g right now, everybody coming. 500 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: From me when I ain't got none to do with Kelvin, 501 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 5: gotta do with the people who sit in next to 502 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 5: Calvin any day, like they don't know what the left 503 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: field is from the catcher's play. 504 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, JR. That's too JR. Sometimes it would be 505 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: it would just today changing the showing on that. Yeah, 506 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: you'll be putting them, be putting them in. 507 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's 508 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: going Yeah. 509 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe we'll put them on 510 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: a little back baseball. Maybe I have to write the 511 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: questions and the answer for those guys. Jeez, all right, 512 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: so we got three baseball related questions. 513 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 10: Jr. 514 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 5: Started the segment. He gets the first crack at every 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: single one. So let's get to it, j R. Padres 516 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 5: all Star reliever Jason Adams ruptured his quad earlier this week. 517 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: That's tough. 518 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: He's out for the season basically now. 519 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 5: Granted, San Diego still has two other all star relievers 520 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: on their roster, But is if faul Or fair to 521 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: say that this Adam injury will prevent the Padres from 522 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 5: getting to the NLCS? 523 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 10: Foul? 524 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 3: That is a foul ball. 525 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 10: I mean the Prodres pitching as a whole. It's still 526 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 10: somewhat for you know, formidable losing Adams. He has eight 527 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 10: wins and sub two e l RA, you know, in 528 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 10: the sixty five and then that's a major. Oh, but 529 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 10: they have you know, K Matt Sue closes, Mason Miller, Robins, 530 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 10: Swarz of the arms. It's really next man up at 531 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 10: this point. As a team, they had the second lowest 532 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 10: ERA in baseball and the and the lowest bullpen e RA. 533 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 10: So they're loaded even with Adams. The Projets aren't guaranteed anything. 534 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 10: You know, we've been waiting for them to do that 535 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 10: thing for a long time. If not for the Dodgers 536 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 10: Many dynasty, they might have already won something. But one 537 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 10: player doesn't make a baseball team, so the projects can't 538 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 10: be thinking that the one setback will throw them off 539 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 10: their planes. 540 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: That's uh right, what was it? Is it foul? 541 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 10: Fair? 542 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: What'd you say? 543 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 10: His injury? 544 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 545 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry he puts him out there. 546 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: It's foul. 547 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: And I'm with you j R. 548 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 4: Like one guy, and their bullpen was already great, and 549 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: then they went out and added some more pieces. They 550 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: will have enough in the bullpen. I mean, you hate 551 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: to lose the guy, there's no doubt about it. But 552 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: now baseball doesn't work like that. 553 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I also think it's foul, but also because I'm looking 554 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: at the Dodgers schedule. You know, they got a couple 555 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: of good, difficult series, got the Phillies coming up at 556 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: some point here towards the end, so they can still 557 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: make a run even without him, just simply based off. Again, 558 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: it's a tough schedule for the Dodgers. The two and 559 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: a half games behind right now, so they're still in it. 560 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: They're still in this thing, all right. Question number two, 561 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: This one's a doozy for JR Jr. 562 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: Last night at Fenway, Trevor Story hit the second shortest 563 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 5: homer in the stat casting era three hundred and six 564 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: feet for context, that would not have been a home 565 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: run in any other Major League ballparks. Here's the question, 566 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: fou or fair to say that MLB needs to have 567 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: uniform stadium dimensions to prevent this kind of tomfoolery in 568 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: the future. 569 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 10: Even though my eleven U nephew hit one that's fall 570 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 10: last week. 571 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: Found that is a foul ball. 572 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 10: That's part of baseball, right, part of his beauty. No 573 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 10: two parts are the same, right Like throughout history, certain 574 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 10: players have benefited from playing in bam By, while others 575 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 10: guess they had their power numbers suffered right because of 576 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 10: the size of the park. There's something they don't discuss 577 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 10: that much, but it affects the stat to a degree. 578 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 10: But it's like the altitude of Colorado leaves increase production, 579 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 10: or hitting left handed Yankee Stadium. But all that said, 580 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 10: non uniformity is what makes the MLB special. Let's be honest, 581 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 10: and the great hit is gonna hit in any park. 582 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 10: Home Runs aren't the only aspect of the game to me, 583 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 10: so that's something we'll have to live with. Im looking 584 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 10: for stuff to touch with my beautiful game. 585 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 586 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: Foul that is foul. 587 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. If a Red Sox won the 588 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: AL home run lead was an Ale home. 589 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Run lead every year, then maybe you can make a 590 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: case that the ballpark's too small. But that's not the case. 591 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: Guys who play in other ballparks are hitting more home runs. 592 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 4: I don't remember the Red Sox. They hit a lot 593 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: of home runs, but not as many as you would think. 594 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: So I think it's foul. 595 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm doing. 596 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm going fair just because you baseball fish NADOs here. 597 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. 598 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: When I go you talk about Lebron to Kobe MJ 599 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: statsore I talk about We've been talking about Joe Montana, 600 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, all these guy sets. It's the same thing. 601 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Ninety four feet the NBA, one hundred yards in the NFL. 602 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Now you over here in three hundred and six, barely 603 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: three hundred yards, you get a home run. I might 604 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: be able to hit that if you throw pitching only 605 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: sixty miles per hour, So they get fair. 606 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: Make a uniform. 607 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: So when I talk about the stats of these baseball players, 608 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: I know that they all had the same equal opportunities. 609 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: Hitting my sandwich for home runs at Fenways. 610 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 5: All right, Fowler fair with JR. Gamble here with the 611 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: I couple, last one, the hottest take of the night. 612 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: Here we go, let's do it, JR. 613 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: Juan Soto had a career high six RBI last night, 614 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 5: and the Mets went over to Troy Ye that ron 615 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: and they won again here on Tuesday. And you should know, 616 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: very quietly, Juan Soto currently leads the medsic homers, run 617 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: scored ops, lugging the war, and he leads the majors 618 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: in walk So, JR. Is it surprise that or fair 619 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: to say that Sodo has lived up to that seven 620 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty five million dollar contract so far. 621 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 10: That's such a loaded question, but fair that's a fair ball. 622 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 10: I know guys are gonna disagree with me, but honestly, 623 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 10: come on, I couldn't understand why he was getting so 624 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 10: much grief. Even early in the in his first season 625 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 10: with the Mets, Rob said he was gonna not come 626 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 10: out to shoot, you know, bringing the ball over the park. 627 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 10: So I agree with that. I kind of understood that 628 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 10: took the time for him to get adjusted. But we 629 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 10: all know that the baseball season can't be judged and 630 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 10: to the end because there's up sending downs, and it's 631 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 10: hidden streets and the slump through one hundred and sixty 632 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 10: two games for a hitter. Social media has made a 633 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 10: lot of this stuff, and it's made it kind of goofy. 634 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 10: So players, you know, I feel like they played to 635 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 10: the back of the baseball cards at the end of 636 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 10: the day. So how would we know Soto was successful? 637 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 10: After three years or so in the contract. Have the 638 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 10: Mets won the World Series? Are the Mets consistent perennial 639 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 10: of playoff contenders? That's how you judge it. He's lived 640 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 10: up to the seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contract. 641 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 10: I can't judge that in one season. 642 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say foul. That is a foul ball, you know, 643 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. You can talk about the numbers. 644 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 4: He's not a two fifty seven batter, Okay, that's what 645 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: two point fifty seven is very low for him as 646 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: a guy. Uh, he still hasn't won like an MVP 647 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: A lot of his numbers. Now, look at where the 648 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: Mets are. Are they better from a year ago before 649 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 4: they had them or worse? They're worse, which is so surprising. 650 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. I'm just talking about where 651 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 4: they are position wise and last but not least, he 652 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 4: didn't he didn't make the All Star team. His numbers 653 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: were that bad that that people didn't vote for him. 654 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: He should, you know, should have been an All Star. 655 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: It was because he struggled early on. People weren't just 656 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: hating on the contract. The numbers weren't there. So that's 657 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: so to say that he lived up to it where 658 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: in a year where he wasn't an All Star, I disagree. 659 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: It's fair. I didn't pay the man for one year ball. 660 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I paid the man for the ration of the contract. 661 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: And I also think it's fair because the people of 662 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: that caliber find a way to bounce back, and he 663 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: did that throughout the season, started off slow. 664 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: We're calling him one so so so it's what you 665 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: were calling. I coined it, and now we all would agree. 666 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: He got ribbed. He should have been an All Star. 667 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: So to me, you know, he's been able to bounce 668 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: back and that's part of being you know, that good 669 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: or a great player. He can even he even has 670 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: room to get better next year. But actually, yeah, he 671 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: he proved it. Ultimately. I don't know if anybody's worth 672 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: three quarters of a billion dollars, but that's the story. 673 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: For another. 674 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 10: As you got it, they must have it for sure. 675 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: All right, Dad, I appreciate you. Man. We'll do it 676 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: again next week. 677 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 10: Thank you, fellas Se Soon