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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. There's a guy that you and I did

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Speaker 1: all about, all right, conflict, let's do it. Whyst year

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Speaker 1: that sandwich? And that's an even more veteran move, so

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Speaker 1: ridiculously proud. Yeahfball, softballs. But it's like every time I

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Speaker 1: Colvin Cook, him and Felin will both be questionable throughout

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Neither one will play. It took me two shows.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. I'm back. Yeah, it is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. Just got back from practice. That's why

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Speaker 1: we're starting at two o'clock instead of noon. But it's

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Speaker 1: hot out there. It's steamy, and the Patriots moved their

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Speaker 1: practice from nine thirty to four o'clock back to noon

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Speaker 1: because of some expected thunderstorms later today. Yeah, it seems

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Speaker 1: like it's still going to I just see a tweet

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Speaker 1: So there, they're still going a little bit. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Evan will be joining us a little later and I

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Speaker 1: can have the Alex and you know who else rotating cast.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, but we're gonna talk about what we've seen

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Speaker 1: so far. We've got two more days until the Patriots

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Speaker 1: first preseason game. It's the Giants Thursday night, so this

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Speaker 1: will be the last practice that we see until next

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Speaker 1: week when the Panthers come to town and there's some

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Speaker 1: joint practices. So, but first to first, um, it's Mike,

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Speaker 1: it's Mike, or Deuce, it's Paul, it's me, It's Matt.

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Speaker 1: The booth, Fiat five D, a stick and hutline web

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Speaker 1: radio at patrios dot com. It's the email address. Christian

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Speaker 1: Barmore got into a little thing today. Well, David Andrews

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Speaker 1: of you know, David Andrews talked yesterday, had huddled the

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Speaker 1: team up, was clearly upset with how things were going,

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Speaker 1: and you know, brought some thunder today and some anger

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Speaker 1: you ultimately, it's got to translate onto the field, and

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Speaker 1: I do think that they were a little bit better today.

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Speaker 1: Felt like it was not quite as competitive and any

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Speaker 1: there was never any full field music, playing full physicality.

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Speaker 1: Seemed like there were some holes. There were some plays

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Speaker 1: in the league with my speed. I need to be smart.

425
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: I need to know how to throw double moves at guys.

426
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Speaker 1: And I think you're starting to see those things pick up.

427
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: He's just he's been a model rookie in terms of

428
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: he's been out there every day. He seems to get

429
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: better every day. He's making catches, and you know he's

430
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: certainly his his physical aspects are are are popping off

431
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: the field. So I think Thornton certainly somebody be excited.

432
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: I would say, other than Thornton and his speed and

433
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of athleticism in Parker and his contested catchability, everybody

434
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: else is pretty good, and all those receivers pretty good.

435
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anybody and I'm got to

436
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: throw Johnny and Hunter Henry into that. They're not over.

437
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: They don't blow you away. They catch a ball. It's

438
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: not like wow, it's just they're kind of there. They're

439
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be, the catch the ball and

440
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: they get what's there. So we'll see how it continues

441
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: to develop. But I think Thornton's ability has people excited

442
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: for good reason. I think he's a guy that could

443
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: could maybe take things to another love. I want to

444
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: throw one out there because you know how I love

445
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: this crap, right, Freddie? Yeah, So we just gave it

446
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes of Mike and Paul telling you it

447
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: was better today. There was some signs of life, some

448
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: good stuff offensively, Do you think it's dictated that way?

449
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean like we got to find a

450
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: way to get the offense some confidence today? Coaching coaching wise?

451
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like we're gonna set up some periods. Like

452
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: Mike had said, like he thought that there wasn't necessarily

453
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Speaker 1: the highest tempo, and I don't want it wasn't a

454
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: walk through. I'm not I'm not. I'm not. They were

455
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: in full pads and there was contact upfront that but

456
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Speaker 1: I don't think today looked like yesterday in terms of

457
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Speaker 1: intensity to you. No, no, And I think it was

458
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ones verse twos too. So I wonder

459
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Speaker 1: if maybe they set it up a little bit like

460
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: we gotta make you know what, and like Brian Hoyer said,

461
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta screw it up to get better. I

462
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: think Brian Hoyer would had a quote a little must

463
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Speaker 1: be speaking now. Um. I just wonder if maybe that

464
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: the coaches said, you know what, we need to find

465
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: a way to have some success. They're getting beaten down. Yeah, yeah,

466
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: could be. I mean, I'm all for it, building up

467
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: some confidence. And you know, I also saw some speculation

468
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: of you know, based on how it was divided up.

469
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: Reese was saying, maybe maybe Mac wouldn't play on Thursday night.

470
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Speaker 1: Well he was talking about the only time he saw them.

471
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Speaker 1: This was Reese's words, not mine or deuces. Every time

472
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Speaker 1: that the offense was working against the defense that was

473
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: working off cards, so the defense would be simulating the Giants.

474
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: It was Hoyer and Zappy, So maybe he speculated we

475
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Speaker 1: won't see much if at all, of which I went

476
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: back and looked, and he played in all three last year.

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know it was a weird situation with

478
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Speaker 1: with Newton obviously, and we were trying to figure that

479
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Speaker 1: all out, but he did play in all three last year.

480
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Speaker 1: So do you think that would be wise to not

481
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Speaker 1: have him play at all? I don't. I don't think

482
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: you should play. Yeah, I mean I think they need

483
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: to work. But I think you've got two weeks of

484
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: joint practices and so I don't think it's like, oh,

485
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: they're factoring in that. Yeah, if they had joint practices

486
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: before this game, I would say he doesn't need to play. Yeah,

487
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean I also think there's value to taking him

488
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Speaker 1: out of the fire. You talk about backing off a

489
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Just let him go on the sideline to

490
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: hear the call, take the mental reps kind of, you know,

491
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: step away from it. I remember, you know, just being

492
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: in hockey when guys would sit out and it will

493
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: be like, don't just sit there and sull go up

494
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: and watch and engage in the game. And you know,

495
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: I still think that there's value for him, especially if

496
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: this is a new offense, to you know, just work

497
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: on the mental aspect of the game, and you know,

498
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: not worrying about having to deliver on the field and

499
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, reacting, Oh god, everybody's gonna lose their mind

500
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: if they look terrible against the Giants. You never know

501
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: what Bill like, like he thinks of something new. But

502
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: maybe you know, now that they're the three preseason games,

503
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe he decides, I'm going to treat the first preseason

504
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: game like it used to be the fourth preseason game. Yeah,

505
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: we've only got three, and then we've got that big

506
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: gap after the third one in our first regular season game,

507
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: and I don't want guys not playing in that third one.

508
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: So let's use this first one to evaluate all these

509
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: all the all the other guys, and then we'll build.

510
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: Then we'll work in our starters games two and three

511
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: so that they've got reps closer to the regular season.

512
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: You never know, no, and I'm seeing Mac is actually

513
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: talking right now saying, uh, it's that two percent. We're close.

514
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: We're just at the buying and trust it. I think

515
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 1: we're going to figure it out. So, you know, some

516
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: some positive messages from him. I know he's uh, I

517
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: mean it was I'm sure it was hard last year,

518
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: but it just seems like this is kind of a

519
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: different kind of adversity that that Mac hasn't really faced before.

520
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: We've talked about him being a returning starting quarterback for

521
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: the first time since probably high school. You know, he's

522
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: always been in a neck and neck battle to beat

523
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: out another guy, and you know, now we finally has

524
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: the job and things are kind of changed on him,

525
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: and so it's it's I think he's in the a

526
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: bit of a unique situation, and I think we'll learn

527
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more about him as a guy in

528
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback going into this season. How how it kind

529
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: of comes together going forward? All Right? Eight five five

530
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: Pats five hundred is the eighth ticket outline, web radio

531
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address? What else

532
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: have we got anything? Um? I was just I had

533
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: a few guys. I just was you know, we were talking.

534
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: I thought, Um, I thought, you know, Jack Jones has

535
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: been a little bit more active the last couple of

536
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: days around the ball. Let's talk about the cornerback. Couple

537
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: of guys. Yeah, sure, I think he's he's feisty. This

538
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: one's a funny one because I'm going the other way

539
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: on him. Okay, I don't know. I like what he's

540
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: done in a nice interception yesterday on Zappy. I mean,

541
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: he isn't quite like wild making wild plays all the time,

542
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: but I just I feel like last couple of days

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: he's been around the ball a little bit more, maybe

544
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: too much, as we talked about later, but I like him.

545
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones another one who's I flashed a little bit. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: I think we might have made a little bit too

547
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: much of him getting some top slot reps yesterday because

548
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: today Miles Bryant was kind of in there. So I

549
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: think they're doing the thing where they rotate guys through

550
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: with the starters so people are experienced. But um, I

551
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. Paul you you you said he's

552
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: chasing a lot, and it seems like maybe, yeah, I

553
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: like I like Marcus Jones more than Jack Jones, but

554
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: that's like they're really not playing the same spot. Um,

555
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: So it's not really an apples to apples comparison. But

556
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: I do think that there are times on those crossing

557
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: routes where he seems to be chasing a little bit. Um.

558
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: So I wonder if um all right, so Badard calls

559
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: it no all out competitive periods today, but he thought

560
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: the offense looked competent as well. So if even even Bedard,

561
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: who's been as critical as anybody, UM, just I think

562
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: both of those guys show some promise. The two rookie corners, um,

563
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I think they're depth pieces at this point, though I

564
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: don't think that they're really threats. Maybe Marcus Jones, um,

565
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, down the road. But I think they have

566
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: two good draft picks there, that two promising guys. I

567
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: think Jack Jones kind of flashed early and I think

568
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of been getting beat a littleim up. Those

569
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: two plays stick out to me yesterday that Thornton really

570
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: just ran him through the ringer. We saw Malcolm Butler

571
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: make a play in the in stadium practice. But how's

572
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: he what kind of camps he had? Malcolm Butler kind

573
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: of camp? Is it? Is it that? I mean, I

574
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: haven't really been I think he's always been an up

575
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: and down I have never been a Malcolm Butler is

576
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: an all pro type cornerback guy. Which was the came

577
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: like there was a game that Antonio Brown had like

578
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty yards against him. Now, Antonio Brown

579
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in football like at the time. No,

580
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: no shame there. But do you remember the game I'm

581
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: talking about when everybody was saying, wow, we did a

582
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: great job shutting down Antonio did. Oh yeah, one hundred

583
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: and thirty years No, he did. This is my point.

584
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: I had to think. I think there's a lot of

585
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: up and down to see the game out, like two

586
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: big plays, but and they weren't all his fault. He

587
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: had a good game. I really don't know where to

588
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: come up on you for. He was out, he had

589
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: it to thank you, he was overmatched, he had a question,

590
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: He had a good game. I still remember the game.

591
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm in exactly the same position as I was when

592
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: camp started. I don't know if he's gonna be playing

593
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: or cut. I still feel like I'm known because some

594
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: days he's out there with significant reps and he's kind

595
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of involved. In other days, I don't even lay eyes

596
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: on him. I mean, I think Mills has been probably

597
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: the most consistent of anybody. Mills and Bryant still your starters.

598
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh you mean, uh, Terrence, Terrence, Terrence Mitchell. I don't know.

599
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: I felt like it feels like they're feeling out. Jay

600
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: Jones on the outside on the other one a little bit.

601
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: Last two days they've had Jonathan Jones on the outside.

602
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: Yesterday it was Marcus Jones in the slot, and today

603
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: it was Miles Brian in the slot. So I think

604
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: they're feeling that out a bit. I early on it

605
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: felt like Terrence Mitchell was embedded in that, you know,

606
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: across from You kind of have to have flexibility because

607
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: every team poses different challenges with their receivers, you know,

608
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: different skill sets and everything, and I don't think you

609
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: can peg this guy's always going to be here and

610
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: this guy's always going to be there, because you could

611
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: have one team that has two great outside receivers and

612
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: then another team that has, you know, a better inside guy,

613
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: and so you have to like mix and match when

614
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: you're playing. I think that's well we might see this year,

615
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: is that in the past, it always felt like the

616
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: two outside corners were kind of consistently out there Gilmore

617
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: JC Jackson in recent like they were no matter what

618
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: they were doing on defense, those guys were always out there.

619
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I think Mills will still probably always be out there,

620
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: but I think it'll be much more matchup base with

621
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: that second outside corner spot, whether it's Jay Jones against

622
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: a little fast guy or maybe Mitchell in there. But

623
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I feel similar to Mitchell as I do to Malcolm Butler.

624
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell. Hard to tell. I mean, they've

625
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: certainly both made occasional plays on the ball. But you know,

626
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing screaming to you that all you know, we

627
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: found the guy you know that's going to be the

628
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: next you know, no question Starre. We are we good

629
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: at safety right now? Do we like what we're seeing

630
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: at safety? If you don't like what you're seeing at safety,

631
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what position you could know. I know,

632
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: but like we came into the preseason and training camp

633
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: with okay, safety is good. Yeah, we've got good depth there. Yes,

634
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: and that's that's shown on the field. I would say yes,

635
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: but it hasn't even gotten to them because I think

636
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Speaker 1: the coverage by the cornerbacks is really good and I

637
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: think the disruption upfront is good. So it's they're certainly

638
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Speaker 1: not getting beat deep which traditional safety plays. I mean,

639
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Speaker 1: I think Hunter Henry has been pretty consistent and had

640
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Speaker 1: a number of catches and John Hu maybe just a

641
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Speaker 1: notch below him, So you know, a little bit of

642
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Speaker 1: coverage question maybe in there, But I think Josh Bledsoe's

643
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: you know, continue to look good. Had a good interception yesterday.

644
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Seemed like they threw the ball right to him. He's

645
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Speaker 1: in the right spot, so they've got some questions. Today.

646
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: Jibrol Peppers was just kind of running laps on the side,

647
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: getting in shape. So he's still working his way back.

648
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Speaker 1: How's it going to look when he comes in. He's

649
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Speaker 1: the only one we haven't really seen yet yet, but

650
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Speaker 1: the other three you've seen. I think Dugger still struggles

651
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: a little bit in coverage on tight ends. I think

652
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Phillips is really good at that. And you know, mccority's mccority.

653
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: He looks you know, he's the guy back end yelling

654
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: yelling at people, Yeah, yelling at the offense. Your guy,

655
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Speaker 1: Henry Anderson. Is he going to be a factor this year?

656
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I think Dietrich Wise

657
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: went out and he got a little playtime, and now

658
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Speaker 1: it seems like Dietrich Wise is easing his way back

659
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Speaker 1: into things, albeit with a giant brace on his left arm.

660
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: And it seemed like Anderson kind of got bumped back down,

661
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: So I think he's kind of that a rotational backup.

662
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Speaker 1: But they seem to like Dietrich wise, they seem to,

663
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Speaker 1: you know, have plans for him and what they're going

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Speaker 1: to do upfront, and I continue to just be worried

665
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: that we're only going to see Christian Barmore really in

666
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: pure passing situations, and that you know, they're not going

667
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: to make him a true three down lineman, and you know,

668
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy who's just as disruptive in and out, they're

669
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Speaker 1: gonna just save him and bring them on against pastors.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it'll change, but right now that's something that seems

671
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Speaker 1: like it's coming down the line, and I don't like it.

672
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: No sign of Jimmy White and the running back, so

673
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: that means time Montgomery's been getting some extra reps. He's

674
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: been getting plenty. I mean, I think he is. We

675
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: talked about him a little bit this morning upstairs. I

676
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: think he's as much of a lock right now as

677
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Speaker 1: you could probably get on the team. He seems in

678
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: the mix of everything, he gets consistent carries. He's right

679
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Speaker 1: there with Stevens. Stevenson now the number one bat no

680
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Speaker 1: no no, Karas still gets the first and maybe a

681
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Speaker 1: little bit more carries. I mean, it hard to tell,

682
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Speaker 1: but I thought I thought they both had some good

683
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Speaker 1: runs today. I thought Stevenson in particular, how one where

684
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Speaker 1: you know, just seem like things kind of opened up

685
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Speaker 1: for him. It was a good and quarterback Paul thinks

686
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: Zappy has leap frog. Matt Jim, Well, he's had a

687
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: good camp. You know, it's a second year in a row.

688
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: You've seen a rookie quarterback, you know, not look totally

689
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: flustered and you know, out of his mind. So I

690
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of I think he looks a

691
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: lot like Mac looked last year, just shorter, with maybe

692
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more of gas on the arm. Not

693
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Speaker 1: not by much. He's small, but he's like six feet

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Speaker 1: thick trunk maybe maybe. Uh five Pass five hundred is

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Speaker 1: the A Ticket Hotline web radio at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's special two o'clock edition of Patriots Unfiltered, the World's

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Speaker 1: Original podcast. Can we make that? I didn't see it?

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Speaker 1: wanted to let people know that we had a two

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Speaker 1: It's going to be our new tag. I like it. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Marks and Connecticut on the A Sticket hot line. What's

703
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Speaker 1: up Mark? Hey, guys, how's it going today. Good? You're

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Speaker 1: you're talking to the world's original podcast. You're part of

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Speaker 1: You're part of history. Last time I talked to you

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Speaker 1: guys was about the draft and that's coming gone now.

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Speaker 1: When I was at the Payas training camp with the

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Speaker 1: family yesterday and got to see some stuff go on, okay,

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Speaker 1: and I thought that, uh tykwe Thorton was just an

710
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Speaker 1: animal out there. I mean, he looks good. Yeah, Parker

711
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Speaker 1: looks good. And then also who actually was surprisingly very good.

712
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Speaker 1: Is a sleeper that you guys haven't talked about, is

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Speaker 1: uh little Jordan Humphrey number eighty. Yeah I heard his

714
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: name today, but yesterday I heard his name a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

715
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Speaker 1: little Jordan. I haven't seen I gotta be honest, I

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Speaker 1: haven't even noticed. Could he be the sick too? He's

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Speaker 1: a big it. Yeah he's not so little. It's not

718
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: such a key. He's I think about six three. He

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Speaker 1: looks like a tight end. I keep thinking he's a

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Speaker 1: tight end. He looks like a tight end. He runs

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Speaker 1: like a tight end. I don't think this well. The

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Speaker 1: Patriots keep six wide receivers. I mean maybe, but it

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Speaker 1: won't be the guy. I think Trey Nixon I think

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Speaker 1: would be the guy. Really an extra one Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Trey Nixon has a little something too, Like

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Speaker 1: I think there's some athleticism there. Yeah, I don't need

727
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: another guy, but little bit Jordan Humphrey, Yeah a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well I stand alone. I haven't I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen much from little Jordan Humfrey. I don't know. I

730
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Speaker 1: think I just saw catch like maybe three or four

731
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Speaker 1: passes today, but not like I didn't catch what you said, Mark.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys see the play from Taekwon Thornton where

733
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Speaker 1: he did a double move. Oh yeah, and just burnt

734
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Speaker 1: the corner on the outside. That's what I wanted to see. Yeah,

735
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Speaker 1: I mean it was got a lectric buying feet. There

736
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Speaker 1: was that one drill yesterday where it's just one on

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Speaker 1: one cornerback first wide receiver and it's not fair to

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Speaker 1: the cornerback. He's very good in one of them. Yeah,

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00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: it's not fair to the cornerback. But man, there would

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Speaker 1: there were some nice moves by the receiver. I've been

741
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Speaker 1: impressed with Thornton. Yeah, who was it? Agalore had some

742
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Speaker 1: nicety He's the best he's the best. Yeah, dusted a

743
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: couple of guys yesterday. Yeah with him is he doesn't

744
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: catch it all the time, but he in terms of

745
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: getting open off the line, a galore is the best thing.

746
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: The minute he sees your weight go one way, he

747
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: just goes the other way. Yeah, he put on a

748
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: clinic really really. Parker uses his body really well. I'll

749
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: tell you that. Yeah. Well that's what that's his game.

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00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: That's his game. Every offensive player looks great. But thank you,

751
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Speaker 1: thanks March, thanks for the call. Let's go to Todd

752
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, is this the playbook? Uh no,

753
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: this is a good show. This is the world's original podcast.

754
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: So I got two quick questions. Number one, who could

755
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: kind of be our Brandon LaBelle for this and the receivers.

756
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe Parker could do that kind of

757
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, get that first down seven yard catch right

758
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: along the sideline that used to do. I'd love to

759
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: see Thornton do it. Drive starters, Yeah exactly, yes, but

760
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Speaker 1: I mean I could see I could see Parker kind

761
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Speaker 1: of doing that a little bit. I mean we've seen

762
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Speaker 1: a little bit of it, but I mean, outside guy

763
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Speaker 1: who can make some make some body catches, yeah, be fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my other quick question is how important was Josh

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Speaker 1: McDaniels to the development of Brady. I'm beginning to think

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Speaker 1: that maybe there was more, you know, of Josh's input

767
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: there too, because we always say that, well, it was

768
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Speaker 1: Belichick Brady, they were the due, but Josh was there

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Speaker 1: for their winning season. He's always been around. Charlie was

770
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Speaker 1: there too when Josh was a kid. And you know,

771
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Speaker 1: I did the foundation, but Charlie was of the offense

772
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Speaker 1: with Brady. Was really McDaniels, Okay, well you know what

773
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Speaker 1: I mean, like he did. Josh mcd was an offensive

774
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Speaker 1: assistant who was like charting plays when that when Brady

775
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: was learning these You can make the case that in

776
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: OH seven, But then I would make the case that

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00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Randy Moss and West Welco were more part of his

778
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: development than anything else. You know, well, I would make

779
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: the case that your wives and Bill Belichick, but more

780
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: respect if you want to credit coaches, right or others

781
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: for Brady. If we're crediting others other than Brady, it's

782
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Charlie Wise and Bill Belichick. Yeah, and Alice Guerrero. Well

783
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: that's way later, no, But I mean it was already

784
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: a three time super Bowl his longevity. But I also

785
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: think though there's something to be said with the longevity

786
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: that that Josh and Tom were together, and the in

787
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Speaker 1: the shorthand and the understanding that they had of experience

788
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Speaker 1: and what they've gone before, and the ability to shift

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Speaker 1: and do things like. I mean not to say I'm

790
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Speaker 1: giving credit for Tom's development, but I think, you know,

791
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: they kind of went hand in hand for a lot

792
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: of that, you know, whole second half of that. I'll

793
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: say this, it didn't seem like in all the years

794
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: he was with Josh, and you know, you'd have a

795
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: bad series and Josh would come over and sit next

796
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Speaker 1: to him, it didn't seem outwardly that they ever had

797
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: any riffs. And that that's saying something. Yeah, you know,

798
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Speaker 1: like they never had seen words on the sideline where

799
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien he certainly did, right, Yeah, he had that.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember anything ever with Charlie either, though I

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Speaker 1: do didn't didn't Oh no, maybe that was Parcels that

802
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Parcels took the play calling away from Charlie at one

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Speaker 1: point or maybe one last thing I remember Charlie had

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00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: play calling taken away from not sure it was with

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00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Bill or with No. I'm not sure. I thought Charlie

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Speaker 1: ever called the plays under parcels here? Okay, I remembers ahead, No,

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Speaker 1: just are you guys gonna do any more training camp cast? Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be down there for when the they're

809
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Speaker 1: practicing against the Yeah? Come on, you know it would

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00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: be who else are we gotta do? Well? I was

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Speaker 1: wondering because I kind of was hoping you'd be there

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Speaker 1: on the Monday. I don't know why. I like, we're

813
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna do live with the Panthers on what Monday? Cool?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want. I got you, all right, I

815
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Speaker 1: have to be honest. He thoroughly confuses me almost every

816
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: time he calls, like, what what on the on the Monday?

817
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: What like? What Monday? Yesterday? Maybe a week for Monday

818
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: that there's no official practice scheduled, but there might be

819
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: a secret practice of some sort that we would like

820
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: we will be live during the two Panthers Tuesday and

821
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Wenches Tuesday and Wednesday, right like we always I mean,

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Speaker 1: since we started doing the joint practices, we've always done

823
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Speaker 1: live during the joint practices. Yep, right, yep. I don't know.

824
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Speaker 1: Might be a mean thing. Any any camp that we

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00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: practice we go to, we'll have a camp cast rap

826
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Speaker 1: at very at the very least. Paul gets very defensive

827
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Speaker 1: when anyone asked him, are you gonna be doing any work?

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Speaker 1: Gets very defensive, Well, we do lots of work, Like

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Speaker 1: are you going to continue the camp casts? Like, no, no,

830
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Speaker 1: we just have this year. We're gonna only only half

831
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Speaker 1: a camp. We're gonna do it. We're not gonna do

832
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: the roses. He knows, he knows. We got him web

833
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address, got

834
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Speaker 1: some emails coming in. Let's see what we got here.

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Speaker 1: This is Sam and Toronto. He said, did Fred jinks

836
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: the offense? When all off season he repeatedly stated he

837
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: had no worries about the offense from the sounds of it.

838
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: The O line has been the major issue, which is

839
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: surprised given we used our first round pick in a

840
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: guard and have a former head coach as our ol coach. Paul.

841
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: That's snark. Also, it seems Patricia is bringing his ben

842
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: don't break mentality to the offense, where we'll be able

843
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: to move down the field but be unable to punch

844
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Speaker 1: it into the end zone. Stoke for yet another Nick

845
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Folk team MVP season. A lot of us starn't there.

846
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Why are we assuming they're gonna be able to move

847
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: the ball between the twenties. I was waiting for that because,

848
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen, Jake Bailey bet iced down

849
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: that Lake. Yeah. Another email along those lines, This is

850
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: Daniel from San Antonio. Is Fred still bullish on the offense?

851
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but based on how bad we

852
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: projected our defense to be this season, which factored our

853
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: draft free agents, and how we ended this season, is

854
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Fred still bullish on the offense, the same offense that's

855
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: struggling with this defense? Can I give you a little defense, Fred? Yeah,

856
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I think you have stated many times during the offseason

857
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: that you're less worried about the offense than the defense. No,

858
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: but I've all, I haven't really heard you say you're

859
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: really bullish on the No. I did, I absolutely did.

860
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I'll how to give you a note. I'll take that. Um.

861
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: I absolutely did say I am bullish on the offense. Okay,

862
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: and right now I don't remember you're saying that, But

863
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've said it on several occasions and

864
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: I will stick with that. I still believe they've got

865
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: the pieces. I still believe they could. Yeah, I know

866
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: you you're on record say I think they'll be fine,

867
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: but I don't think they have like a great offense. Yeah,

868
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the pieces for a great

869
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: I believe they have the pieces to be a good offense,

870
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: not great, but good, better better than last year. I

871
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: was in the same boat as you, and I still

872
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: think the offense might be better than the defense. I'm

873
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: not saying, and I don't know which which unit will

874
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: be better. I don't think either one of them's going

875
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: to be great. That's all I agree with that. But

876
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: I still I could still see the offense kind of

877
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: finding something if they are really developing into a new

878
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of thing and people get in the same page.

879
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm the same concern about the defense. I've

880
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: had all that Mac Jones quote to me is telling you,

881
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I know, there's still a lot of people who don't

882
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: really understand, don't think that they're doing anything different, or

883
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: don't know, and we don't because we're not coaches. We're

884
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: not telling we're not excess those guys. But Mac is

885
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: telling you you just have to trust it. What do

886
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: you think he has to trust there's newness to what

887
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: they're doing. They have to trust trust the programs process. Yeah, right,

888
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: Like he's telling you that there's a learning curve, there's

889
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: a transition going on, and I believe you get better

890
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: and I believe it right, and I believe they've got

891
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: the pieces. If they learn it, they've got the pieces

892
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: to execute it. It's just still it's still hard for

893
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: me to look at the slate and all that, at

894
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the competition that they have for the defense. And you know,

895
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by what we've seen, and I'm encouraged by

896
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Barmore and some of the new pieces. But right we

897
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: don't know what we're looking at yet, don't know what

898
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: we're looking at offense. I do know I'm looking at

899
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Tamara and I'm looking at Alex, who have just joined

900
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: us from the field. What's going on? So thunder out there?

901
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: It's starting to rain. Yeah, I'm all for the rain,

902
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: as long as it cools it down, yea, and doesn't

903
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: make it more humid. Supposed to how's Mac doing out there?

904
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Did he seem chipper? He seemed in a better mood today,

905
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: I think, um, I think, you know, he answered the

906
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: question of of he seemed frustrated out there, and I

907
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, his response is great, like, obviously

908
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: he cares about this team, and so he's going to

909
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: care when that practice things aren't going well. Um, and

910
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: he said he you know, he does go harder and

911
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: practice on himself and others because you know, you want

912
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: it to be easy by the time you get in

913
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: the game. So obviously, with today being a better practice,

914
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: he did seem, you know, pretty positive. Two percent better today. Yeah,

915
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: so okay, what do you seeing, Alex. Yeah, that was

916
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of his quote. I think we're a lot closer

917
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: on things. It's just that last two percent um offense

918
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: definitely looked better. It was like kind of slow still,

919
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't super fast paced, but some scraps in there

920
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: for the intensity. So I don't know if that's a

921
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: good signer. It's not a it's not it's not necessarily

922
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: a good sign, but it's not a bad sign. Yeah,

923
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: that's what kind of Devin mccordy said, was that it's

924
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: too late for that, and this is the point where

925
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: we're kind of supposed to be coming together as one.

926
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to the defense for the offense.

927
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: I think it's not bad to have that, and then

928
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: you know tomorrow is going to be a walk through

929
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: at best, and then you get to play another team

930
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: and really take out your aggression. So Max, it's just

931
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: tough love. It's just tough love. Some you know, brother

932
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: brotherly fighting. Yeah, Mac almost got implicated tools Nelson Aguilar

933
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: kind of pulled him out. It looked like he was

934
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: trying to break it up. But they're big guys to

935
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: break up in a fight. So I was like, get

936
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: out of there, get out of there, protect the franchise, Like,

937
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: come on, do we have any idea who was winning

938
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: the fight? Well, I mean I far more Andre and Andrews.

939
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: And earlier in practice there had been another little D

940
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: line O line scuffle. I think Invers was in the

941
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: midst of that one. Yeah, I do too. So I

942
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: wonder if the two of them were kind of just

943
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: talking a lot of trash today to each other, or

944
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if Barmour was in the first. That's

945
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: tough to pick. I probably go Barmore, though, I think

946
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's got too much energy. The

947
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: youth too, yeah, the youth. Yeah, But Andrew's dad strength. Now,

948
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: so that's right, don't you forget it? Yeah? But dad,

949
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: strength only kicks in when your kids involved, right, like

950
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: something exactly, but I mean technically like Mac Jones, as

951
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: he's a kid, he wants to protect Max. Okay, all right,

952
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: kicking Okay. I liked Math He was like, I love

953
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: those guys. I have a lot of respect for them.

954
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: So I was trying to break it up. It was

955
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: really cute and in the same time he's adorable. Just

956
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: complete passes. Yeah, yeah, So we were just talking if

957
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: if about the wide receivers, we know who the top

958
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: five are. So you got Algalore Born Myers Parker, So

959
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: is that your order or you're just no, no, not

960
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: not in any ordering them off? And who am I

961
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: missing their? Say? Parker said, Thornton, those are your top five?

962
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: If they keep six, who's who's your six? I would

963
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: probably say Tray Nixon, Tray next. We've seen him a

964
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of special teams. You agree with, Paul? And yeah,

965
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: Alex and I were talking about that today when we

966
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: were sitting in practice, and you know, I was watching

967
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: him yesterday and he was, you know, helps, what about

968
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey. It's little had a pretty good day yesterday.

969
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: I was busy with a lot of off the field stuff,

970
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: but from some stuff I write, at least from the writers. Hello,

971
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: beat writers do that. But you know that's it's a

972
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: good observation. If a guy's getting a lot of work

973
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: and special teams, that's a good sign for him. I

974
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: had the same note for a guy like Miles Bryant.

975
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: You know that that room is really full, and I

976
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: think that you know, seeing him on special teams a lot,

977
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: could could say something. Who knows, Yeah, yeah, I thought

978
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: we saw Ronnie Perkins do something today too. That was

979
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: that was a big moment for us up on the thing.

980
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Would he get a pressure pall? Was that what it was? Did?

981
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's with defense, it's hard, especially linebackers because

982
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: you're not tackling or anything. But of all those young guys,

983
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: Ouch Jennings, Ronnie Perkins, mcgron, McMillan, Jenny McMillan, are we

984
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: seeing anything that we like? Sure, Jennings, none of them.

985
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, uche is in there, I mean as he's been.

986
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: But it seems like, you know, the past rush package

987
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: on third down would be Jennings and and Ucha and

988
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: judeon barmore. Um, I think Jennings's level of reps has

989
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: increased as Camp has gone on. He's more involved with

990
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: regular guys as Camp has gone on. Uja to me

991
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: is a third down guy. Um Perkins haven't seen at

992
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: all mcgron even less than Perkins. That's disappointing to me.

993
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I thought mcgron was he was my sleeper, one of

994
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: my safe I mean, I think they like to buy

995
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: and Longie more than him. Yeah, as they play over him.

996
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: But I think it's definitely a note that Jennings is

997
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of playing on the third down pass rush kind

998
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: of guys, because I always looked at him a little

999
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: bit just more as a big, slow stout, you know,

1000
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: first second down kind of a guy. So I think

1001
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, Paul's right, He's he's been one of the

1002
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: guys that have He looks like he's lost and weight

1003
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: and he's probably as a result games some quickness. Yeah,

1004
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: just wonder what's there if he's able to you know,

1005
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Ucha we've talked about a lot of just

1006
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: if he's able to get around you or avoid you.

1007
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: He's tough, but usually when guys get their hands on Uja,

1008
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's shut down pretty quick. So hopefully Jennings

1009
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: has some you know, countermoves and some power that you

1010
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: know to bring something a little different like Judon does,

1011
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: who seems to be like a real handful. For all right,

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Speaker 1: moments in history. I just don't want to race out

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Speaker 1: to a lead and you know, get your whole Brady

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Speaker 1: right touchdown, you know, fourth quarter you're up like fourteen,

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Speaker 1: or saying that touchdown, touchdown like like here, And that's

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Speaker 1: what he's done to so many teams. And you understand

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Speaker 1: how maddening it is when you think you got him

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Speaker 1: dot com. Is the email addressed, It's deuced. It's Tamara,

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Speaker 1: It's Alex Paul, myself, Matt in the booth and Tamarrow.

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Speaker 1: Got some news about Tamara. I'm gonna go big time

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Speaker 1: on us SEC football sideline reporter Labor Day weekend for

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Speaker 1: South Carolina game. Is that right? Well, it'd be helpful

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Speaker 1: when you're on the sideline. Yeah, that's right. Um, heading

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Speaker 1: down to SEC country. Super exciting. Um, first time probably

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: doing sideline for a college football game in a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. But I'm excited, especially because of the Virginia

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Speaker 1: Tech connection with head coach Shane Biemerum being the coach

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Speaker 1: of the Gamecocks going into his second season. So I'm

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Speaker 1: pumped that great brush up on your knowledge of South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So what's that? Like? They fly in the day before

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Speaker 1: the game, and do you go to like the production

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Speaker 1: meeting and all that stuff. Fils are probably happened like

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Speaker 1: via zoom, okay, and then I'll fly in Friday to

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Speaker 1: like you know, have a meeting and stuff. But wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, I've always wanted to go to a

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Speaker 1: big time college football game. I've never been to like

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Speaker 1: an SEC big division one A that just seems like

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Speaker 1: it would be such a cool My sister went to Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and so I went to a few games with her.

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Speaker 1: We went to Alabama, LSU incredible, Like Holy Cross Temple

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Speaker 1: doesn't holy Cross Tousand State. Yeah, it's it's something else

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Speaker 1: down there. I think between like the tailgates, like the

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Speaker 1: atmosphere in the game and the band, it's just oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's life. I mean, you know, like you

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Speaker 1: think of Atlanta, and Atlanta's got some good sports teams,

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Speaker 1: but nothing comes close to Georgia football, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just weird around here, is you don't

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Speaker 1: college football isn't big here, like I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: certainly little pockets of people who are passionate about their

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Speaker 1: own small school up here, but it's just it just

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: seems like such a part of the culture in the

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Speaker 1: south of of who's your team? What are you doing Saturday?

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Speaker 1: What's your tailgate operation? Like? Yeah, you grow you grow

1142
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: up thinking I'm going to Georgia or I'm going to Texas.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: You know that real hatred. Yeah, yeah, it's like down

1144
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: south I feel like you're just you see everyone has

1145
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: like to stickers, flags flying from their cars. I'm like, wow,

1146
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's football season. The closest for me was

1147
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: when Doug Flutie and BC one. That's when the Cotton Bowl,

1148
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: like that was Yeah, I mean we got a little

1149
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: excited about that. You know, that was the only time

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00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: that that college football really even ding my radar maybe

1151
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. Then again, when Glenn Foley was good

1152
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: and uh, who's that tight end that Pete Mitchell was

1153
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: another one too. Yeah, yeah, I think it's more like

1154
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: college hockey up here, that's right. But even that is

1155
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: like you know this, there's a handful of people atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: go to the bean pot, don't get me here. Hello, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of There are four colleges that

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Speaker 1: could be played on the same night and all of

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Speaker 1: them will have five thousand people at it. So college

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Speaker 1: hockey is a big dealer, and it's also he's exaggerating, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, BUBC, Northeastern, Harvard could all be playing

1162
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Speaker 1: on the same night and all have good crowds, but

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Speaker 1: they don't. They don't consistently draw that come on North

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00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: Eastern to Harvard's place is a little smaller. They don't

1165
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: not every game. I didn't say every game. I said

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Speaker 1: on any given Friday night. Yeah, you're gonna have four

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Speaker 1: to six thou. This is not a college sports town.

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Speaker 1: It's not. But what I'm telling you is college hockey

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Speaker 1: here is the best college hockey in the country. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We don't play football here. We stink. Yeah, so people

1171
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: know that this is not a good level of college football.

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Speaker 1: That's why b see is irrelant. A lot of good

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00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: college players come out of New England for hockey, for hockey.

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, heck yeah, you're looking at one

1175
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: right here. But again, it's the best conference in college hockey. Yeah,

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: which it's the highest level, but it's hockey. It's irret

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Speaker 1: but it's hot. That's the difference. Yeah, it is hockey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a niche sport. Hockey is not for everybody. Do

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00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: you get that? But anyway, congratulations to Tamara and who

1180
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: knows what this could lead to. We never know. See, Yeah,

1181
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: this is exciting. So no, no off weekend for you

1182
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: in labor day, No, yeah, no off weekend. Yeah. Maybe

1183
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Speaker 1: I'll be able to steal something off someone's grill that weekend. Yeah,

1184
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: all right. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the

1185
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: email address. We got emails coming in. Uh. This one

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00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: is from David and Bethlehem, and he wants to know

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Speaker 1: what we've seen from man when you he said he

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Speaker 1: looks slow? Who could take his spot didn't win? Who

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: could take over? Oh, I don't know. I mean for

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Speaker 1: when Yahnykaj, I thought did a good job today. I

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Speaker 1: thought there was a difference in the offensive line play

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: compared to yesterday, justin Haran really struggled. And I would

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Speaker 1: have thought, and I probably still think that Haran had

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: the hedge as the swing tackle. But Cojut was better

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00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: today than Haran was yesterday. So maybe he's injecting himself

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Speaker 1: into that battle the guards. I mean, Arlington Hambright is

1197
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Speaker 1: the next guy up, but I don't think he's the end.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I mean, it feels like

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Speaker 1: they they were playing with that a little bit the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, though. It seems like it's just

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Speaker 1: un when you in there. And I think he's been

1202
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: pretty good too, so that might happen. I know everybody's

1203
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: curious about scheam change and all that, but I just

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: would like to see Michael when you get a chance

1205
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: to really play. I mean, we were so high on

1206
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: him two years ago, and you know, I mean, certainly

1207
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Speaker 1: things look better last year with Ted Carris, and that's

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Speaker 1: probably why they went that direction. But I'd just like

1209
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: to see him get a chance because he was really

1210
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Speaker 1: after that first season, you felt like you really had

1211
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Speaker 1: to find with him, and now it almost feels like

1212
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Speaker 1: he's stuck in the middle and doesn't have a place

1213
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Speaker 1: right now. Russell and Arkansas writes in he said yesterday

1214
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Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show, old friend of the Patriots Darius

1215
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Butler said that the offense struggling in camp isn't surprising

1216
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Speaker 1: because it's a controlled environment and there isn't a lot

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Speaker 1: of scripting for success and practices in New England, if

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Speaker 1: that makes any sense. If you want to watch the clip,

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Speaker 1: it starts around forty nine minutes and ends at fifty

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Speaker 1: two minutes. So he went on about three minutes about

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Speaker 1: it on YouTube. Well that's the whole thing I mean.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to make this sound like, oh,

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01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: the coaches will figure it out, but I just think

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Speaker 1: in a game plan situation and they can probably scheme

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Speaker 1: up enough to make it competent. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: really competent consistently out there. But that's why I still

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: feel like, ultimately at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: might say at the end of the season, the offense

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01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: was better than the defense that you know they're able

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: to start, all right, we'll get them with this when

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: we can, you know, scheme this one up, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a question too of I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Josh was excellent at. No one wanted to

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01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: catch teams with that kind of stuff and how to

1235
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Speaker 1: get around his weaknesses and work with what he had.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm less convinced that they have the

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01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: pieces to be a really good offense because I think

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Speaker 1: that you're exactly right. When they'll have success, they'll be

1239
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: scheming it up and catching guy. But when you're just

1240
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: lining up and playing in camp, you're not winning more

1241
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: often than not because I don't think you have the

1242
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: pieces to do it. But I think I think it's

1243
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: Miami's implementing a whole new scheme and they're raving about it.

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01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: But to me, it's notable when a guy like Butler,

1245
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Speaker 1: Darius Butler says this, he's played on a couple of

1246
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: different teams, so he knows and he says, in New

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: England they don't script for success in practice, and that's

1248
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Speaker 1: something that we have no doubt about that and do

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01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: other teams, and we would say that maybe today they

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Speaker 1: did a little bit. Well that was I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say that, that's what I say. No, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: because I'm just speculating, right, it could maybe today they said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't script for may today, let's do

1254
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: a little bit to make the offense feel good about themselves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, they brought in Foxborough High School's defense, and guys,

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Speaker 1: I did think out of Bill's press conference today, it's

1257
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of those plays that you got, you

1258
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: guys thought were bad offensive plays, Like sometimes it wasn't.

1259
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like the defense like did something outstanding.

1260
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: It was you know, yeah, one thing went wrong and

1261
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: then that made our offense look bad. It wasn't necessarily

1262
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: like the whole like Max Fall. It wasn't all Max Fall.

1263
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't all this person's fault. Sometimes we're just trying

1264
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: to see it break down and what would happen. It

1265
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: isn't that worse. I mean, when it's not just one

1266
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: guy's fault. It's a variety of it. And his quote

1267
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: to me, and that's why I use the quote sometimes

1268
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: let me read it because I don't want to paraphrase him.

1269
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes good plays aren't good play. Yeah, sometimes like the

1270
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: good we all have things we can improve on. There's

1271
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: there's some places the quarterback could play better. There's some

1272
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: places the quarterback is right and there's a breakdown in protection.

1273
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: There's some places that the quarterback is right and there's

1274
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: a breakdown in the road that to me is worse. Yeah,

1275
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: that means you're running the gamut and things that are wrong. Yeah,

1276
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: it might only be one thing on every play, but

1277
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: it's a different But how do you do it well?

1278
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: What was the problem last year at the beginning of

1279
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: the season. Mistakes just every game it seemed like they're

1280
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: turnovers or penalties or just dumb mistakes. A lot of it, right,

1281
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: a lot of it, And I mean to be honest,

1282
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: there's been some of it in camp here too, starting

1283
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: with you know, Trent Brown yesterday on the first play

1284
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: a practice, which you know, we were talking a little

1285
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: bit about it, but it's just that was such a

1286
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: bad way to start practice, and I think you know,

1287
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: you talk about fast starts. I think I heard the

1288
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: coaches kind of yelling about fast starts today. I think

1289
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: it's all all connected. And that's something we saw last

1290
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: year too, where when they came out slow and they

1291
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: didn't have it and the other team kind of got

1292
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: it to him early, it was hard for them to

1293
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: really come back and make that push. Other than the

1294
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: Houston game, that was the only time they really came back.

1295
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: It's like shocking for us because they're always, like historically

1296
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: so disciplined. Yeah, and then to not see it right

1297
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: Neil and new Brunswick, this is an insane question. But

1298
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: in light of eight straight training camp casts of offense

1299
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 1: stinks talk against the defense that still needs to force

1300
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: a punt, is there any chance the Patriots need to

1301
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: be kicking the tires and Jimmy Garoppolo No, no, no, no,

1302
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: but he did say it was insane. Uh, it would

1303
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: have to be after he was released or a trade

1304
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: in which the forty nine is retained some salary. I

1305
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: want Mac to succeed, but if he can't, Jimmy is

1306
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: a guy who does win games and knows the Patriots

1307
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: and the Shanahan systems, which seems to be something our

1308
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: current guys don't. Jimmy, if Mac went down, I remember when,

1309
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was Fox right, they did a whole

1310
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo thing. I don't know where that came. It

1311
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: was the Fox Sunday Morning show. That funny that guy

1312
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be funny on that show did a

1313
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: whole thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. If Mac were to go down,

1314
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't be opposed to it. I've always

1315
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: liked Jimmy g but I think it's Max team and

1316
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: you don't need him kind of breathing down his neck

1317
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I think Bailey's appy's look

1318
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, if you signed Jimmy Garoppolo, he's

1319
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: going to be your starter. Yeah, at least for a year. Yeah,

1320
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean Hoyer. Yeah. Now, Brian and Brian and Indiana

1321
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: writes in we've been hearing about offensive struggles all camp.

1322
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: I know it's a stretch to say now, but if

1323
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: our offense is mediocre or bad in an offensive league

1324
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: all year, I think most likely Mac Jones's next year

1325
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: will be with his third offensive coordinator. Three O season.

1326
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: Three years would be rough on any quarterback. In my opinion,

1327
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: how bad can Bill screw up this franchise before we

1328
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: let him go? Wow, well, technically there is no offensive coordinator.

1329
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: We've had so many great players league because Bill didn't

1330
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: think they could no longer play at a championship, but

1331
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: clearly doesn't hold himself to the same expectations. Wow, that's

1332
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: Brian and Indiana. He doesn't well, I mean, I you know,

1333
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: people on his side of the street have you know,

1334
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: every reason to be upset. I mean, I think he's

1335
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: been pounding this druma for a while. And you know,

1336
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: even as somebody who generally gives Bill Belichick still the

1337
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, you know, it hasn't looked great.

1338
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: And again, to go back to the points, just with

1339
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: Patricia running around doing different stuff, it's just it doesn't

1340
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: seem like the best operation right now in terms of,

1341
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, having multiple coaches, and you know, it just

1342
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: feels like they've been bleeding guys out, losing talent, losing coaches,

1343
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, and and and now it's just it's kind

1344
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: of Bill standing alone with with Maddy p and Joe

1345
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: Judge and they're trying to figure it out, and I'm

1346
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: still holding out hope that they can do it. But

1347
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: I totally get why Brian feels the way he does

1348
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: and why he might be growing pessimism about the season

1349
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: right now. One thing I'll say, you know, I don't

1350
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: know what this means, but like from Patricia and Judge,

1351
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't see any like panic on the field. I

1352
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: don't see any frustration. I don't see any yelling, you know,

1353
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: palms up in the air. I don't see that. And

1354
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: to me, that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah, I saw.

1355
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see Joe Judge yesterday walking off

1356
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: the field kind of give him back a little pep

1357
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: talk and give him a little like, you know, hitting

1358
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: the shoulder pads as they're walking. I think a couple

1359
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: of players also kind of went up to Mac as well,

1360
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: which you know, I'd love not to have to like

1361
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: constantly pick him up and have him be the one picking.

1362
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: People think he's been better at it, but he has been. Yeah,

1363
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the arms are the arms are flailing. Everyone.

1364
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: Mac is different. I'm talking about the coaches. Oh no,

1365
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, but last year we saw a lot

1366
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: of that from Mac and we haven't seen as much

1367
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: this year now, and and it still just feels like

1368
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: he's a little bit torn because I think he is

1369
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: a fun, loving guy that that enjoys being on the field,

1370
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just kind of a contrast between

1371
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: they have like a bad period and it doesn't really

1372
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: go great and we're all kind of grumbling, and you

1373
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: know then you see him trying to keep the guys loose,

1374
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's it feels like it's

1375
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: a mental battle right now to kind of balance hard

1376
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: work and you know, maybe being frustrated, but also trying

1377
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: to stay positive and trying to stay the course and

1378
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: trying to feel like we're building towards something. And I mean,

1379
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: today wasn't like, oh my god, they got it. You know,

1380
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: I think we saw some glimpses and glimmers of hope,

1381
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: but that's what they were. They were. You know, it's

1382
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: it's it's got to come back, I think on Thursday

1383
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: and then going into next week into practice, like you

1384
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: have to see them build off of this, because if

1385
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: they have another practice like they had yesterday, all this

1386
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: good will that you kind of feeling coming out of

1387
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: this practice will be gone. Christian in Austria, he says

1388
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: before training camp started I thought the offense was in

1389
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: okay shape and the defense would struggle. From all the

1390
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: reports I've seen so far, it appears to be the

1391
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: other way around. I know, Fred, you downplayed the role

1392
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: of the coordinators, but can we really be surprised that

1393
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: the offense is disorganized with Laurel and Hardy leaving it?

1394
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think that's fair. Also, do

1395
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: you think Barmore has the potential to be the next

1396
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour? And do you think about Jonathan Jones replacing

1397
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: d mac as the free safety next year? Jonathan Jones,

1398
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: I have people have talked about that a little bit.

1399
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really I don't really see it.

1400
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know the size doesn't really

1401
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: matter as a free safety, but it's just like your

1402
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: last line of defense is a tackler. He's just, you know,

1403
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: like a five foot nine guys, And I know everybody

1404
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: wants to rip on Judge in Patricia and I don't know,

1405
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: maybe they won't be successful as offensive coaches, but I

1406
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, when you rise to the level in the

1407
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: NFL to be asked to be a head coach, you

1408
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: must have done something right. And they failed as head coaches,

1409
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. So did Pete Carroll, so

1410
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: did Bill Belichick. You know, I'm not worried about those

1411
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: like based on practice, but like you tell me, you

1412
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: think it would be great if Dan Dan Campbell was

1413
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: on staff. No, okay, well he rose to the level

1414
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: of a head coach. Who you don't think he's a

1415
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: very good coach. But no, whoa whoa? WHOA hold on now,

1416
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: I just said if he was on staff. I know.

1417
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: I never said that Dan Campbell was a back. He

1418
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: was a bad head coach, or seems to be, but

1419
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: he was probably a good coach to get that. No, No,

1420
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: you just said, you know, to rise to the level

1421
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: of a head coach. And I said, would you be

1422
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: feeling good if Dan Campbell was on the staff and

1423
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: he said no, not as a head coach. I didn't

1424
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: say he's a head coach. I said if he was

1425
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: a linebackers coach. Maybe do you answered the question when

1426
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: I did? You gave me the answer I wanted the first.

1427
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: I think I think Pogano was a joke as a

1428
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: head coach, but I think he wasn't think I do

1429
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: he was awful. He was awful, but he was probably

1430
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: probably free straight. He probably did he probably did something

1431
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: right to be asked to be a head coach, and

1432
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: he probably hit his ceiling, his glass ceiling, you know,

1433
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: to beat cancer too. I mean, well, that's that's a

1434
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: whole difference. No, Pocano was a terrible head coach. Well,

1435
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: we'll see tonight on HBO. We got Hard Knocks premiering,

1436
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: so well, I guess we'll get the full Dan Campbell

1437
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: experience today. We get to get to check out what's

1438
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: going on. I see some of the previous day. On

1439
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: the way up, we're gonna buy the knee cap off,

1440
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: all right, and we're gonna stand up, and then it's

1441
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna take two more shots to knock us down, all right.

1442
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: And on the way up, we're gonna take to your

1443
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: other knee cap. Right. That's Dan Campbell head coach for

1444
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: more gems. No, I think I I think people don't

1445
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: understand how tough the NFL is. Yeah, you know, to

1446
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: be a coach. I mean I get your points, and

1447
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: I get that. You know, Matt Patrician and Joe Judge

1448
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: know a ton about football and certainly can do it.

1449
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: I just wonder I said to Paul up Top. I'm like,

1450
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: is there any way that Matt Patricia can have a

1451
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: successful season this year? It just feels like he's kind

1452
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: of set up to fail because if the if the

1453
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: pass protection is bad, if the run blocking is bad,

1454
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: if the offense isn't like coordinated well and not calling.

1455
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, people go nuts about play calls as it is.

1456
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean things like under his under his stead that

1457
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: you can blame him, I know, but if if, but

1458
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: if the offense is good, he will get some credit

1459
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: for it, and they'll be like, you know what he was,

1460
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: he wasn't bad. Maybe I think that's probably he's already

1461
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: coming here, like digging himself out of the Detroit hole,

1462
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: so coming in with that reputation. But I mean, don't

1463
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think if the offense is a

1464
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: good offense, then I think, Okay, it wasn't as bad

1465
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: as we thought it was going to be. Because people

1466
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: are just like I'm saying right now, I'm not blaming

1467
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: any of this on Matt Patricia or Joe Joe. I'm

1468
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: saying practice. I mean, people like that last email, I

1469
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: would think they're Laurel and Hardy. I mean Laurel and

1470
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: Hardy is an abject failure if that's who they are, Yeah,

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I agree with pause point, though, I mean,

1472
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: if that's that's the greater point is like he's been

1473
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: put in this position, like I don't think if you

1474
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: ask Matt Patricia what he want to do when he

1475
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: got here that like, oh, I'd like the coach offensive

1476
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: line while also kind of being the offensive coordinator in

1477
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, trying to help Matchet. Like it's just a

1478
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: lot on his plate and it's apparent watching practice. So

1479
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: I but I'm with Paul and that I think it

1480
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: goes to the top. And you know how this was

1481
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: initially structured, and you know, it's it's you want to

1482
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: do it this way. You've earned it. You can try,

1483
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: but if it doesn't work, it's not gonna work, you know.

1484
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: And and right now it's it's it's hard to have

1485
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: confidence in it. There's just so many new pieces in it. Well,

1486
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so you know, Jarard writes in and

1487
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: he's from Virginia and he's talking about the Badard piece

1488
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: from yesterday about how Bill always wanted to change things up,

1489
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, Ivan fears and Josh and Dante's

1490
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: you know, push back on that, and then he says,

1491
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: others have speculated that Patricia and Judge don't know enough

1492
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: of the old offense to teach or run it. What

1493
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: do you think guilty of that? What do you think

1494
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: of these theories about why Bill would have bannedon a

1495
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: twenty year successful offensive scheme that Mac understood last year?

1496
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: And if either are likely true, should mister Kraft start

1497
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: moving forward with the post Bill succession plan. I think

1498
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: part of it is they're not necessarily doing away with

1499
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: the old system. I think they're trying to implement elements

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: of another system to complement it. If that makes any sense,

1501
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: it does, I think, But can you can you do both?

1502
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: Can you be a wide zone team? Says that's what

1503
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: they were in twenty and eighteen when they won the

1504
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Is that right? I ran wide gap? I mean,

1505
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm just going off at this story that Karen wrote. Yea,

1506
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,839
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm sorry. Kavin's the best in the business.

1507
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: He's a great reporter, and she she had Dante opened

1508
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: up to him about the toss crack outside zones that

1509
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: they ran a lot of It was with two backs,

1510
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: which at the time, Dante says, you know, no one's

1511
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: running two backs as as much as we were, so

1512
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: these kinds of things, and they ran gap inside and

1513
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: he thinks that you can, you can do that, and Mike,

1514
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: I think a couple of weeks ago, brought up a

1515
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: point actually I think Evan did too, about you're gonna

1516
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: see games that have entirely different looks to them too,

1517
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: because there's such a game plan oriented team. So you're

1518
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: gonna get a team that maybe is better suited for

1519
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: the the wide zone stuff to run it against. And

1520
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: then you're gonna get teams that they penetrate too much

1521
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: to do that against, and they're gonna go different ways. Well,

1522
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking specifically about the offensive line here. Can can

1523
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 1: you can you you know, go from game to game

1524
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: and do different things like that as offensive line. I mean,

1525
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm just playing again, I know I'm but we always

1526
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: hear from offensive lineman. We just like to, you know,

1527
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: tell us the way you want us to play. And

1528
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: we like doing that, you know, um like, because they're

1529
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: different styles of playing offensive line. And I will blow

1530
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: back a little bit at something and I said this

1531
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: to you this morning that dot they said, you know,

1532
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: it's like, well, we were able to run the wide

1533
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: zone stuff, you know really well, you know, depending on

1534
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: the tight end we had and when we had Rob Gronkowski.

1535
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: You know'm like, yeah, exactly. This is why I don't

1536
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: think they have the pieces to be a great offense,

1537
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: because I don't think they have the talent to be

1538
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: a great offense. You're talking about the tile use Check

1539
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: and George Kittle. You know that that's the Shanahan run game,

1540
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: and I mean and Shanahan, like I've done more and

1541
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: more kind of deep dies into this whole thing over

1542
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: the last few days, and like you know, they do

1543
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: all the other stuff too, you know, it's just the

1544
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 1: original like wide zone like that was all they wanted

1545
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: to do. That's what we're gonna rep That's what we're

1546
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna do. And as it's evolved, you've got Sean mcvagh

1547
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: putting twists on it, You've got Shanahan having twists on

1548
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: it with you know, use Check and Kittle, and I think, like,

1549
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think we might be getting caught up

1550
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: in the weeds a little bit too much, and maybe

1551
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: just saying they kind of got rid of the fullback

1552
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get a little bit more athletic

1553
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: than having a fullback on the field. I don't. I mean,

1554
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's anybody here who's watching Patriots

1555
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: or the last years after James Devlin got you know,

1556
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: God bless him, like you know, they felt like, man,

1557
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: we need more Yakob Johnson out there, we need more fullback,

1558
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: Like that's the I think there was a theory of oh,

1559
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: we're going to try to overpower smaller offenses, but now

1560
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: it's like, we gotta get faster, and that's what I

1561
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: think is intriguing. Pierre Strong, a guy we should probably

1562
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: bring up who's kind of increased his workload a little bit.

1563
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: Seemed like Kevin Harris was getting a lot of carries

1564
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: early in camp. Now that Pierre Strong is healthy, he's

1565
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: getting some carries, so maybe we'll see him. But another

1566
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: guy breakaway speed, get a gap and is gone. And

1567
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: if you can get that going, you know, you're faster,

1568
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: you're more explosive. I think those are the things they're

1569
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: really aiming for more than just hey, we're gonna have

1570
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: wide zones, are kind of base runs, like I just

1571
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that it's it's probably more

1572
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: complicated in some senses, but also much simpler in other

1573
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: senses of what they're actually trying to do and how

1574
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: they're trying to go about it. So, Paul, I have

1575
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: a question. So, since you don't think they have the talent,

1576
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: do you think that they're trying to build an offense

1577
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: around the talent that they do have, even though it's

1578
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: not you know obviously well, I mean, obviously you have

1579
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: to do with you know, the best thing you can't.

1580
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: But I think that they're going to have to rely

1581
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: on like Mike said, you know, and this is why

1582
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: Belichick is so good. You rely on your game planning

1583
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: and figuring out matchups and weaknesses of other teams, and

1584
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: you find ways to get the ball in your playmaker's hands.

1585
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: And I think, um, you know, Agalore and Thornton can

1586
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: put some pressure on you in terms of speed, and

1587
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: I think Myers and Borne can put some pressure on

1588
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: you with their consistency and being able to get open

1589
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: and move the chains. I think that's what they did

1590
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: last year to an extent um, and I think that

1591
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: they'll have to continue to do that now. They also

1592
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: want to run the ball, and I think if you

1593
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: run the ball effectively, you can at least chew clock

1594
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: and and and move the chains that way. They did

1595
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: that reasonably well at times last year too, But I

1596
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: don't think that they have the pieces to be dominant

1597
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: offensively now. I think they got to get the run

1598
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: game going because I mean, Alice Gibbs talked about it's

1599
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 1: much easier to replace offensive linemen this kind of system,

1600
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: it's much easier to place running back. So how many

1601
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: times did you see in Denver a new running back?

1602
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: Who's this guy always got thirteen hundred yards? If they

1603
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: can get it down and and and everybody knows what

1604
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: they're doing, I think that they have the potential, especially

1605
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: with Stevenson and Strong, who seemed like two particular really

1606
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: good fits for this kind of thing that you know,

1607
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe that's something they can they can lean on. Um

1608
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's see web radio at Patriots dot Com.

1609
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: Chris with a T. I. A. N. Writes in Dog

1610
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: Days a Camp for Paul very ornery today. Quote, why

1611
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: are we assuming they're going to move the ball between

1612
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: the twenties? That was a joke, Jake Bailey Ice that

1613
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: leg all right? That was that was Paul snark. It's

1614
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: it's getting to all of us though. I mean it's uh,

1615
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little tetting to me because I'm

1616
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: not one of these guys that writes home after a

1617
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: great practice. And I'm not gonna sit here and tell

1618
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: you the sky is following after you know, a handful

1619
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: of bad ones. I have to see my dearest Beth

1620
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: so wonderful today at them. The problem with our captain Andrew,

1621
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: the problem with our our lieutenant, our frame of reference

1622
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: is that for twenty years, we really never had a

1623
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: bad training camp. Yeah, you know, like bad training camp

1624
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: was a couple series where Brady was pissed off. Brady

1625
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: yells at the lineman and and wouldn't let them take

1626
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: him out, and he would run it again. That was

1627
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: like a bad day. That's because the ball hit the

1628
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: ground once, right, That was the definition of a bad

1629
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: practice back then. It hasn't look I'm not trying to

1630
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: tell you what's looked good. I'm not trying to tell

1631
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: you but this overreacting because we're not. But again, it

1632
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: hasn't looked. I wonder what like the other thirty one

1633
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: training camps look like, if you know, other than with

1634
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and like Pat Mahomes. I wonder if like

1635
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: other teams are having struggles too, and that's a normal

1636
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: thing in the summer. We're just not used to it.

1637
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean even am I just my fourth camp. You know,

1638
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: being on the inside here, it's like it's jarring. There's

1639
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: not these star players anymore. There's not Dante hiow Er,

1640
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: there's not Tom Brady, there's not Rob Gronkowski, there's not

1641
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, Like, all those guys are gone, and now

1642
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: you're like Christian Barmore might be good, or till On

1643
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: Thornton might be good. You know, you're starting to sell

1644
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: yourself on new guys. And I think that's as jarring

1645
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: as anything. It's just looking out there and seeing like

1646
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: there's not a bunch of Super Bowl champs out there anymore.

1647
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: There are guys that are trying to prove it, trying

1648
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: to pick up that mantle of the quote unquote Patriot

1649
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: way and you know, do things the way that they've

1650
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: been done, but there's no guarantee that they're going to

1651
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: be able to do it like that, and we're all

1652
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: kind of waiting with bated breath anthem manager expectations. Yeah right, yeah,

1653
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: you have to show used to just like hell you know,

1654
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: mess around and end up in the AFC Championship. I

1655
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: mean that was the story for you know, a good

1656
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: portion of the twenty tens. I mean that pretty much

1657
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: every year you know they were they were in there.

1658
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: No matter how much you guys I'm sure, yelled at

1659
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: each other about various aspects, ultimately came down to one

1660
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: or two plays in the AFC Championship and then one

1661
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: or two plays and what was it. It was just

1662
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: a matter of who they were going to play in

1663
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship, yeah, yeah, yeah, and whether or not

1664
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: you were going to host it, right right. We were

1665
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: pretty obnoxious, but it was true, they're not gonna host it.

1666
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: And it's like I say, like, it's not necessarily like

1667
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: people mistake, Like I'm telling you right now, if they

1668
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: played really well Thursday, offensively, get ready for a cascade

1669
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: of what do you think the media is just blowing

1670
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: everything out of proportion. Like it's like when they were

1671
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: going into seasons and you knew before the season started

1672
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: that it was only a matter of who's hosting the

1673
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. That's what was happening at the time.

1674
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't because we were being obnoxious. It was because

1675
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots were that good. You know, in twenty fourteen,

1676
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, you knew there's no way that

1677
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: the brock Oswiler Texans were coming to Foxborough to beat

1678
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots right in a playoff game. Yeah, Or Marcus

1679
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: Mariota was coming in with Tennessee to win a playoff.

1680
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't happening. No, So we told you it wasn't happening,

1681
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: just like right now, we're telling you it just wasn't

1682
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Doesn't look that. It was more about just

1683
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: like I just these five guys can't get hurt, Like

1684
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: just these five guys like on our team, Like that's

1685
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: really what you were worried about your own guy's getting hurt.

1686
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: And just random little twists. We used to have a

1687
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: thing here called the double buy, So you get to

1688
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: buy because you were one or two seed, and then

1689
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: you had the second by because the team that was

1690
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: coming in were like Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow, right, I

1691
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: know how young you are. The double by was initiated

1692
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: by me when Tim Tebow came to play the Patriots

1693
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: into eleven. Yeahs is going to be like diamonds in

1694
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: a rough in the rough situation where it's really rough,

1695
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be some diamonds. Oh, I think people

1696
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: will emerge. Yeah, I don't like the opportunity opportunity which

1697
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: one happens. I said there's gonna be some diamonds in

1698
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: the rough, and someone well, I mean, but that is.

1699
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: But you know, it's fun to see new players kind

1700
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: of rise. You just hope that it happens as a

1701
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: team and that you know they're not dreadful like that

1702
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,799
Speaker 1: they're good. You know, I have no not I'm being honest,

1703
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 1: I have no fear of them being dreadful. Bell check

1704
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: us too good of a coach. Yeah, yeah, like they

1705
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: will figure out a way. And I said this to you, Mike,

1706
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: when we were walking to practice in two thousand. The

1707
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: Patriots didn't even have Fred You remember this. Yeah, they

1708
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: didn't even have fifty three players to keep at the

1709
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: start of the season. And this is a quote from Belichick.

1710
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 1: We didn't feel like we had fifty three NFL players.

1711
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: That's why they didn't have enough guys on the roster

1712
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: to start. And that team they ended up going five

1713
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: and eleven. All right, they easily could have won three

1714
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: or four more games because they were so well coached,

1715
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 1: like they just found a way to have a scheme

1716
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: and stay in it. They had no talent, yeah, but

1717
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: they just kept scrapping. They have more talent now than

1718
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: they did that. Oh yeah. I just think this season

1719
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: will be a great, a great test of it because

1720
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,879
Speaker 1: I don't really ever recall a murderers row of teams

1721
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: like this that feel like, you know, it's not like

1722
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: OA where we can just beat the bad teams and

1723
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: still be in the playoff hunt. It's like this year,

1724
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: if you just beat the bad teams, you're not even

1725
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: sniffing the playoffs yet. You know, like to even sniff

1726
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you're gonna have to beat some good teams.

1727
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: So that's, uh, it'll be an interesting test to that.

1728
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: And you know, how does it all come back together

1729
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: to deal with all these different offenses that are just

1730
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: ruling the game right now. And I said to Paul,

1731
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they gotta they did a little stat look up.

1732
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: They gotta face eight of the top ten receivers from

1733
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: last year, you know, including three of them they're going

1734
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: to see twice between Wattle and Hill and Miami and

1735
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: Digs in Buffalo. So I mean just every good receiver

1736
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: pretty much is coming in here this year's you know,

1737
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: and they got to deal with them, all right, eight

1738
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: five five past five hundred is the ticket a hotline.

1739
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's go to Spi and Fresno. What's up speak Yeah, handwringing.

1740
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little nervous here with the way things

1741
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: are shaking out in camp. But you guys are making

1742
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: good points that so maybe some of that's the product

1743
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: of like being spoiled for twenty years and we're not

1744
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 1: used to things not looking quite right it's this time

1745
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: of year. But it's it's like Mike was saying, that's

1746
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: that's the that's the murderer's row, and I'm worried about

1747
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: that five and twelve season instead of like the maybe

1748
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: let's planning on originally. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

1749
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Too early to freak out. Yeah, I think so, It

1750
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: definitely too early to freak out. It is, but you know,

1751
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: this is the world coaster. You got to be honest

1752
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: with what we're seeing, and you know this is it's

1753
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: it's just it hasn't been good. And I mean, I

1754
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 1: don't think you need to look very far to see

1755
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: everybody kind of seeing the same exact stuff. Uh Tamara's

1756
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: leaving us, Evan Evan Lazar, the Great Evan Lazar is

1757
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: joining us, the great. Yeah, turn on your mind, Michael,

1758
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: great one. Thank you for that introduction. What does nine

1759
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: keene I see on the gridiron? Thanks for the call, spy.

1760
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: So Evan, how are you doing? I'm doing well? Yea.

1761
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: So how long have you been here now? One week? Over?

1762
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: Two weeks? Two weeks? Time flies? How's it going? It's

1763
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: going great? Yeah, loving it and enjoying it. You just

1764
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: came from writing in practice? What do you what do

1765
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: you see? Paul thinks that they may have scripted it

1766
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: a little bit to make the offense feel good about

1767
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: themselves today. I like that interesting. I think I didn't

1768
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: say no, I didn't. I think the interesting thing came

1769
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: after practice. For me. Today was a little bit of

1770
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: a slower day, not as intense as what we saw yesterday,

1771
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: and mac Jones gave a pretty good answer. I asked

1772
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 1: him about what's going on up front? You know, obviously

1773
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting him to take out the white board

1774
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: and diagram what exactly is going on with the protections

1775
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: and things like that, But He once again referenced a

1776
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: different naz where he used different way of doing things

1777
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 1: for them up front, and this I think is starting

1778
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: to get to the point where if you listen to

1779
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: all the players and what they're actually piecing it together,

1780
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,480
Speaker 1: what they're actually telling you, this offensive system is significantly

1781
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: different than what we've seen them run in the past,

1782
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: from how they call things, how they tag things, how

1783
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: they check things at the line of scrimmage on down.

1784
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: And at that point, you don't want to keep on

1785
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: making that excuse right and say, oh, it's just new,

1786
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: and you know you got to give them time. But

1787
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: we're at that point in the season in training camp

1788
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: where it is all very new and you do have

1789
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: to give them some time. So in some respects the

1790
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 1: results have to be there eventually, but for right now.

1791
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: Again another element of it, and he said, we got

1792
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: to make sure that we don't have any free runners

1793
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, right. You just don't want guys coming

1794
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: in completely unblocked. If somebody blows a block here or there,

1795
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's football. The defensive players get

1796
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: paid too. But he said that if everybody's hat on

1797
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: a hat and I have time in the pocket, I'll

1798
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: make the throws when we have to eliminate. Is the

1799
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: times when there's guys coming in unblocked at the line

1800
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and we're not getting hat on a hat.

1801
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: So another element of their offense that seems like a

1802
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: work in progress because of the tweaks that they're making.

1803
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: You know, something that occurred to me, as you would

1804
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: talk in Evan is you know, they have been running

1805
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: the same offense for twenty years or so, and you know,

1806
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: forget about Josh leaving and all that, but the fact

1807
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: is that last year at least one player said the

1808
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Patriots are easy to defend, and maybe Bill says, you know,

1809
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: we have been doing the same thing. Teams know us,

1810
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: and we don't have Tom Brady to check out the

1811
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: line and see a defense and have all the answers

1812
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: and just do the right thing on every play. So

1813
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: maybe we just need to change it because teams teams

1814
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: know us too well, and you know, we've become easy

1815
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: to plan for and defend well. But I also feel

1816
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: like their kind of thing was that their game plan

1817
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: offense and that they like to change and you know,

1818
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: throw curveballs, and I probably go a little bit more

1819
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 1: towards Paul's and to things of I just don't think

1820
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: they had the guys really to continue to do whatever

1821
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: they want, and you know, maybe they've been a little

1822
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: bit more hamstrung. I guess we'll see if it's going

1823
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 1: to be different a week intrigued because I think Thornton

1824
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: has the kind of athleticism that demand's attention and he

1825
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: looks like a you know it and we'll see it.

1826
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: There's a long way to go, but he gets open

1827
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: and he has great hands and good like I should say,

1828
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: good hands, great ball. Yeah. Um. And to Evan's point

1829
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: about that was the part of the mac Jones quote

1830
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: and Mike and I talked about it that really stuck

1831
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: out was we just have to trust it at the

1832
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: end of that, like, there's nothing to trust if you're

1833
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: not doing anything different, Like there's no there's no question

1834
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: that everybody's on the same I don't get this, but

1835
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: you're doing if you're doing it the same, you know what,

1836
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: you don't need to trust it fold right, right, Clearly

1837
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: they're doing something different, right, and that's what needs to

1838
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: be trusted. Yeah, that's what he's telling you. It's like

1839
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's some reluctance. To me, he needs to

1840
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: look in the mirror a little bit because I don't

1841
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: think he trusts it. I think there are times that

1842
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: he's looked very indecisive. You know, he talked about the

1843
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: runaway guys. That hasn't always been the case. There have

1844
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: been plenty at times, especially the last couple of days,

1845
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: when he's looked. You saw one yesterday, Freddie, when Parker

1846
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: was opening between two levels of the defense, and you're

1847
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: just looking and looking and waiting and waiting. Tucks the

1848
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: ball runs around. I think it was there. Yeah, I said,

1849
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: trust what you said. Parker was wide open. He didn't

1850
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: throw it. Yeah, that's easy for me to say from

1851
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: the red level, right, you know, like if I'm out that,

1852
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm like anyway, Anthony even Delaware. If the offense poops

1853
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: the bed during the season, does Bill give the keys

1854
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: to Judge or does Bill take over play calling? Not

1855
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: that I think it would happen, but does Bill have

1856
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: the gonads to fire Patricia or Judge if things go

1857
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: poorly or just wait till next year to hire someone

1858
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: who knows what he's doing. Bill's not the kind of

1859
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: guy in my He he doesn't give me the impression

1860
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: of someone that makes those mid season changes like some

1861
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: other teams have done, where you fight like Garrett, you know,

1862
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys getting rid of Jason Garrett. I don't think

1863
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Bill would ever do that. I think he thinks they

1864
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: could get where they need to go. Like I still

1865
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: think he would be like, even though it hasn't worked yet,

1866
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: will tack to something that will work. He might like changes,

1867
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think he would like no. But I

1868
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: feel like he's too loyal to to kind of just

1869
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: throw someone under the bus. Yeah, I mean, where does

1870
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,879
Speaker 1: he have to go? You know, if this goes terribly,

1871
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: where does he have to go next year? Like, what

1872
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you bring in Bill O'Brien

1873
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: and fire map Patricia, Like go ahead, yes, in the

1874
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: back of the back of the rooms. Didn't he kind

1875
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: of do that last year with defense? What didn't he

1876
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 1: just kind of step in and oh but he didn't.

1877
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: He didn't start running the defense. He didn't fire anyone. Oh.

1878
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he said fire anybody. I think he said,

1879
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: would he have to go nads to fire judge of Patricia? Well,

1880
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: I thought he said to hand the keys to judge

1881
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: said that earlier. Yeah, that's what I thought he was talking.

1882
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Oh I could see him doing that. Oh okay, well

1883
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: that's me. I'm talking about like firing stuff. I don't

1884
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 1: know about firing, Like, I don't know who gets fired.

1885
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you like everybody people do all the time.

1886
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: I know, but I think that's rare in the middle

1887
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: of season. I just mentioned Jason Garrett and he didn't

1888
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: get fired. No, but not by the Cowboys. He matter

1889
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 1: of fact, he had to Joe Judge he got fired,

1890
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: did Yeah? I think he just lost play calling, didn't he. No,

1891
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I think he got fired. I don't know. Maybe you're right,

1892
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: but that's Joe Judge, that's your guy. But it's like,

1893
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 1: even if it's a success, even like let's say it's

1894
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: not that great, Like I'm sorry, even say the offense

1895
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: is pretty good this year, pretty good, how do you

1896
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: how do you change it again? How do you bring

1897
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: in an offensive corner? You're kind of married to this

1898
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: if that was pretty good? The guy who wrote in earlier,

1899
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 1: you know, like you're staring at three and three years, right,

1900
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that's we always talk about young quarterbacks who have to

1901
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: go through that, and it's like it's not fair to

1902
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: them that they have to go through all these coordinators.

1903
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they fire a guy like Garrett,

1904
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: like like Judged it to Garret, like what you like?

1905
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: What do you do? Like? Then what do you do well?

1906
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Judge took over? No, but I'm saying, like you you like,

1907
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: so whoever you decided was the guy this year? Yeah?

1908
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Then you like, I agree with you. I don't ever

1909
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: see this happening. But why you just fire Map Patricia right?

1910
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: It does too many other things. You fire Joe Judge,

1911
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: and you know it's just like, I agree with you.

1912
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: There's no way that's happening. Yeah, he might take the

1913
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: keys away and give him to somebody else, But I think,

1914
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: but I still don't see a scenario where next year

1915
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 1: they say we're gonna bring an offensive line coach and

1916
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Matt You're gonna be the offensive coordinator Like that still

1917
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: feels like a major stretch to me, even if they're

1918
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: pretty good this year like it, I don't know, it's

1919
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: just all it feels like they're down this path and

1920
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to get out of it. But

1921
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I do think you see on the defensive side of

1922
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the ball throughout training camp and look we don't actually

1923
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: know who's running what and where and all that sort

1924
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: of thing. But we've seen Bill Belichick as hands on

1925
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: with the offense and as with the offense during practices

1926
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: i've ever seen him. So that tells you that Steve

1927
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: Belichick and Grade Mayo are the ones that are probably

1928
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: running the defense. And the defense looks great. I mean,

1929
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: the defense at least looks connected. They look like they're

1930
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: one unit. So on that side of things, you say,

1931
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: and maybe he hands the keys off to somebody else,

1932
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: maybe they pivot or something like that. I think last

1933
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: year we did see that on defense where all of

1934
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: a sudden they come out after that Cowboys game, they

1935
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: lose Jonathan Jones, you know, Ceedee Lamb scores the walk

1936
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: off touchdown, and then zone for the next seven weeks.

1937
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a point in time,

1938
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: and Belichick spoke about this yesterday during his press conference

1939
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: where he said, yeah, we we evaluate in season, training camp,

1940
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: but at some point in time, we'll put the plug

1941
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: on anything. And I don't think that he's too stubborn

1942
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: to pull the plug on something that's not working. I think,

1943
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: just like I don't think he's married to this new

1944
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: offensive system. I kind of agree with Badard and Felger

1945
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: on that and disagree with Ted Johnson. I think I

1946
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: think if he continues to, like well, they've talked about

1947
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: it a lot, like Bill is demonstrated many times over

1948
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: the years that he won't bang his head into a role. Yeah,

1949
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: absolutely stupid, and I think he won't with this. If

1950
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: if they get in like the middle of October and

1951
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: it's just not working, yeah, he'll scrat He probably won't

1952
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: even take him that long, right, it's not working. But

1953
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: I kind with the conventional wisdom there that I think

1954
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: Bill will adapt. Oh yeah, I think he always has.

1955
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: And I think they have some of the gap stuff

1956
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 1: that they've done in the past. They have that in

1957
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: their back pocket. They can always pull that back out,

1958
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: and I really do think that eventually we might see

1959
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: that in At times over the last couple of days,

1960
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: we've seen more spread looks Mac and the shotgun spread

1961
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: the field, and those elements always make him look more

1962
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: comfortable than the under center stuff, which he doesn't have

1963
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: as much experience with. So I think eventually the buck

1964
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: always stops with Belichick, and he's going to have a

1965
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: say that's beyond everybody else's in terms of the overall direction.

1966
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: But I just think it's really fascinating from mini camp

1967
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: on to hear every single player talk about how different

1968
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: this offense is to what they were running last year

1969
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: in so many different ways. The receivers talking about it,

1970
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: the line talking about it, the quarterback talking about protections

1971
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: and mic points and things like that, changing how they

1972
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: call things. And you know, there's a lot of times

1973
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: where we would hear, for even from camp and about

1974
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: how much they put on the quarterback to make sure

1975
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: that everybody's pointed in the right direction upfront pre snap

1976
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to the blocking. So that's a lot

1977
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: of onus on Mac Jones, and I think that he's

1978
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: going through it a little bit right now in terms

1979
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: of getting everybody had on it. The difference, though, is

1980
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: in the spring it was, Oh, they're making things, simp,

1981
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to play faster. Now it's really hard,

1982
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: That's what That's what they said all weeks. Yeah, like

1983
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: especially the receivers, it's allowing us to play faster. Blah

1984
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Yeah, you know, and it's been

1985
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: a struggle. But you had one minor mistake. I want

1986
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: to correct you, Evan, when you talk about Bill taking

1987
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: over the defense last year and it was all zone

1988
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: for the next seven you have to then say, and

1989
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: then he gave it back at the end, he gave

1990
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: it back getting bad because you have to Buffalo. You

1991
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: have to understand, young man, that Phil Belichick has never

1992
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: made a mistake. So when when when they weren't forcing

1993
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: any punch against Buffalo twice, Bill Belichick wasn't running take

1994
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: it back for jackson was making fun of the fans

1995
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: now like you're just the fans. Yeah, it's like, it's

1996
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: not just the fans. The Jacksonville Key's like, let me

1997
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: take it back, just yeah, I got it. I got

1998
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 1: it for this one. I got it for the Jets.

1999
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I got it for the Jets Jacksonville and the ninety

2000
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: eight mile hour win game in Buffalo. You got the

2001
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: day after Christmas Buffalo game and the playoff game against Buffalo. Already,

2002
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm just laughed at thinking about like anytime you actually

2003
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: heard like a Brady play call in the huddle and

2004
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 1: like your brain is spinning because it just sounds like

2005
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of like you know, Calculus words be spending.

2006
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Now it's probably just like toss left on two, toss

2007
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: left on two, Like that's what their play calls are now,

2008
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: like just literally like Madden offense, like that simplicity, Like

2009
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Hopefully it starts to

2010
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: look better. But James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan

2011
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: in the world, says Jesus, couldn't you have replaced Eric

2012
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: with even years ago? E scale Wow? Nope. I hope

2013
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 1: he's not listening because I'm quite just it's not listening.

2014
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: I don't he was barely listening when he was sitting

2015
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: sitting And maybe we could do this as a bit

2016
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: during the bye week. Call Eric on the phone during

2017
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: the show and do a quick quiz on like the

2018
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Patriots to any ideas the most basic questions we can

2019
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: come up. Who's the starting running back? Eric? So we

2020
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: had we had a big joke. I don't know if

2021
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: he was. He was away when they signed Cam Newton,

2022
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: and our big joke was when he came back, do

2023
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: you think he'll know? Well? I do still watch the news. Yeah,

2024
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Fred needling him though. That was always

2025
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: like funny. You just see Fred seeing opening and he

2026
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: starts like and then he kind of go like like

2027
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: look at him and be like, I'm gonna get him,

2028
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: and then Eric would just like couldn't help it get

2029
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: worked on. No, I'm not doing Eric's greatest hits. Uh,

2030
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Patton Ottawa, With everything we're hearing about the offense, what

2031
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: do you think should be our goals for the upcoming preseason?

2032
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Do you think we need to look Uh? Do we

2033
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: need to look at the preseason differently than we have

2034
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: in the past. No, I just I mean personally, I mean,

2035
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spoil our keys to the

2036
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: game that we had to submit, but I mean I

2037
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: just want to see them put some plays together, put

2038
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: a drive. I mean, if they put it. You know,

2039
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if Max gonna play or not, so

2040
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: it's all relative. But I just think regardless, to see

2041
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 1: a ten play drive by the offense where it's balanced,

2042
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: they go down the field, they make some plays. It

2043
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: looks clean, it looks in rhythm. I would feel better

2044
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: that the system is being Is this just the second

2045
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: year of three preseason or the third second second? So

2046
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, Bill learns and like we talked about earlier,

2047
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: I think maybe he does handle personnel a little bit

2048
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 1: differently now having one season of three under his belt

2049
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and knowing how that worked out. And they used to

2050
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: never play at all in the first game. Yeah, no

2051
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: one like, no one of any real significance played in

2052
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 1: the first game. Now, I don't know if you have

2053
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: that luxury, we'll see, maybe he'll but I mean in

2054
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 1: games two and three they've always played well. But now

2055
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Game three is like Game four, but it isn't. No, see,

2056
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: I think Game three is still Game three. Yeah, it

2057
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: has to be, because you've got that big gap between

2058
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: that first game. I think you have to wait. You

2059
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: either have to treat game two like game three or

2060
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: I you know what game three like game three? Yeah,

2061
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I want you to explain, in other words, what's the game,

2062
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 1: what's the you know, what's the game where the Scrubs

2063
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: get a chance. And it might be game one, Yeah,

2064
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: you know it's it's definitely it might be Game one

2065
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: where the Scrubs get all the chances. And I think

2066
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: the second half of Game three was still that that game.

2067
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I'd like to see the rookies too. I mean,

2068
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 1: I think Matt Marcus Jones should probably return a punter

2069
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 1: two in this game, and that that would be interesting

2070
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: to see, you know, with live tackling, see how how

2071
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: how Quickie looks in space. And I want to see

2072
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: the decision making on those guys, because it's one thing

2073
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 1: to have some electricity to your game and be able

2074
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 1: to offer that, but then can you go out? And

2075
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, I thought today they were really excellent, all

2076
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: of those guys, Trey Nixon, h Marcus Jones, that like that.

2077
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: I think they had a and I think this was

2078
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: also scripted. I think there were a lot of directional kicks.

2079
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Even the kickoffs were sort of sent in like a

2080
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: corner and they had to run a good distance and

2081
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: they handled them all flawlessly. Trade Nick Marcus Jones, I

2082
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think I remember seeing him, but

2083
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor was one of them. Miles Bryant, I think Caughts.

2084
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought all of the returners today were

2085
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: really shorthanded. That's what Bill's looking for in a game setting,

2086
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: like not you know, the quick babble like or you know,

2087
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: the run up, catch it on a fly by by

2088
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: your fingernail like gunner and then get I was gonna

2089
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: say the gunner thing was like jump in the air

2090
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: right before you get tacked all right, break one for

2091
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: eight yards and everybody gets excited. But you know, forget

2092
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: about the cot of fumbles that he had to recover.

2093
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I guess the most dramatic ten yard games. I thought

2094
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: he died three different times last season. I just was like,

2095
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: is he gonna get out? How about the ball that

2096
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 1: like went off his leg like out of bounds, like

2097
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, just using every pun against Pittsburgh. Give us

2098
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: one right here and give us last training camp. I said,

2099
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Gunner Chefski's gonna be your breakout player this year. Everyone.

2100
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Every once in a while we swinging Missy even I thought,

2101
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: you know he might do some looked quick. Yeah, um

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01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: let's see j K Jack Yeah, Jacket and Abba should

2103
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: have kept Burrios right, I'm not in love with Hester's

2104
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: better than Gunner. Oh yeah, but that's not saying he

2105
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: seems to love him some Burrios too, Like he seems

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01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Jacket and Abba. Which of the

2107
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: following surprise cuts would be most likely? But he's got

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01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: like surprising cuts. Most likely Brian Hoyer to make room

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01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 1: for Bailey Zappy Yeah, j J. Taylor to make room

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01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 1: for Time Montgomery and A two rookie running bat that.

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't think JJ Taylor would be a surprise cut.

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01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah win would be a good quote unquote

2113
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: surprise cut right now, especially after the last It could

2114
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: be right, what's sick of this? I don't know, I

2115
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: mean surprise healthy. That would be Bill Belichick's Eugene Chung moment.

2116
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: Blink blink. You don't remember as before your I mean

2117
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: not Belichick Parcels when he cut Eugene Chunk. That'd be

2118
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Belichick's moment like that where you take a guy highly

2119
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: drafted just it doesn't matter who you are, you can

2120
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: get cut. Parcels didn't draft him, so what did he care?

2121
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: But he was like a second round pick. I don't

2122
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: know what first round first didn't I know, but it

2123
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: was it was a sign that I don't care where

2124
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: you're drafted. I remember that's what was being written at

2125
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: the time Freddie and his CUB reporter days. Sure, I

2126
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it's about Isaiah Wynn, if it's about

2127
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,759
Speaker 1: Jess and her on. But today with us right tackle

2128
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: looked a little bit better. You have to say it

2129
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 1: look better. Well, they're actually running the ball successfully. He's

2130
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: look better. Yeah, right, off the right side on winning

2131
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: and could Juice getting a good push. You know what

2132
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see but from Mac I didn't see just

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01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: run untouched around, which I saw like four times yesterday. Yeah, Um,

2134
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: Dalton Key because he can't stay healthy, that's not a

2135
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: surprise cut. He's done nothing, nothing three years. Um Nelson

2136
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: had the lord to make room for Trey Nixon. No way, no, no,

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01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: I'll never say never, but I'd be very that would

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: be a surprisy surprise. That would be a surprise. I

2139
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: think we go back to Dalton Keene for a second,

2140
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pitch Dalton Keene

2141
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: to you all right now. But at some point in

2142
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: time there has to be somebody on the roster who

2143
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 1: can play fullback back Smith. I don't think it's Johnny Smith.

2144
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you want your fourteen million dollars tight

2145
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 1: end to be taking on linebackers in the hole consistently.

2146
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: But if they think I want that guy doing it either.

2147
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: If they get to October and this really isn't working,

2148
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: the only pivot is to put a fullback back in

2149
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: the in the offense right and if they don't have

2150
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: anybody that can actually do that if they have to

2151
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: go out and like tray back, sign some jag off

2152
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: the street right everywhere. Some guy from Harvard who was

2153
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: that they had a big one last year that they

2154
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: signed from. I think he was drafted by Baltimore initially

2155
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: from Michigan, Michigan Ben Mason, Ben Mason. He's probably kicking around.

2156
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: Somebody working at a store tells me, you could find

2157
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: a full back Dietrick Wise to make room for Henry

2158
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Anderson does on the team, um uh Gilani Tavai to

2159
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: make room for Camera Groan. Nope, no, I keep on

2160
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: way to wish something from camm Groan. And I don't

2161
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: know if it's just them easing him in or kind

2162
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: of don't want to him out there too much. I

2163
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: don't know, but he has not made and I not

2164
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: to pick on him, but he has not made one

2165
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: notable play that I've been like, oh yeah, right and

2166
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: came grown right, you know, like there's been no now

2167
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: because we were told like this was a red shirt pick.

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01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: They know he's heard, but he's got some potential. That's

2169
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 1: why we'll we'll draft him. And then they went got

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Speaker 1: ray Qua McMillan and Mac Wilson, and it seems like

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01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 1: those two guys are are, you know, kind of filling

2172
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: the high tower Collins and vanoid at all um Juwan

2173
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Williams to make room for Marcus Jones and Jack Jones.

2174
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Speaker 1: Stop it, that's he's gone. That's not a surprise. I

2175
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: would not be a surprise. I think a surprise if

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01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: Jowan Williams made it in addition to those two, those

2177
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: two alucks and finally Cody Davis to make room for

2178
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: Joshua Bledsoe Paul would like that. That one's not outrageous. Yeah,

2179
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: there's going to be. And we mentioned Hoyer at the top.

2180
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 1: There's gonna be at least one, if not multiple veterans

2181
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: that they know we're not going anywhere that don't have

2182
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: to go through waivers because they're invested veterans that just

2183
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: like they did last year with the Kickers and Hoyer,

2184
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: and they do this every year. So Cody Davis could

2185
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: he be one of those guys? Yeah, absolutely, because he's

2186
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 1: not going far. What do you mean they don't have

2187
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 1: to go through waivers. So if you're a vested veteran,

2188
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to go through waivers, right, So you

2189
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: can just be a street When you get released by

2190
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: the team, you're just a street free agent. You can

2191
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: just sign anywhere. Oh yeah, yeah, so you did just

2192
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 1: say just don't don't go anywhere. We're gonna we have

2193
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: a roster spot for you signing the practice. I don't whatever,

2194
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: but I think that. So you're saying that they wouldn't

2195
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: get signed, Yes, I'm saying that, or at least there

2196
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: would be some sort of an agreements. I think that

2197
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: they've lost a lot of guys like that over the years.

2198
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: Bolden is the one that stands out right with Miami

2199
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. Other guys that they've lost in

2200
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,640
Speaker 1: similar ways. I know what you're saying now about the

2201
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: waivers like that. The difference between Hill, you know, or

2202
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: one of those. I mean, there's a chance, like if

2203
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 1: Trey Nixon is somebody that you have an agreement ahead

2204
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: of time and you tell the guy not to go,

2205
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 1: then yeah, I think that's a dangerous game because we've

2206
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: seen like Howyer like left but a lot of but

2207
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: sometimes they just throw money and you can't say no, no,

2208
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: I know, but it has happened in the past. Yeah,

2209
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I know you said, guy, I misunderstood him at first.

2210
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna this is just a temporary thing. We're gonna

2211
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: sign you in a week or two. You know. Yeah,

2212
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: but you've got to hope that someone doesn't come after them.

2213
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know, because I think, yeah, there's

2214
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 1: been examples of guys getting I mean, I think Hoyer

2215
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 1: is the clearing example. I think Indie throw them, throw

2216
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and they were like they were

2217
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 1: planning on resigning them, but they he couldn't turn the

2218
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: money down. It's it's a risk, it's a risk. But

2219
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: if the money's equal, the guy's like, oh, I'll just

2220
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: stay here. I don't want to write minimums. But I

2221
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: do think I think Bledsoe is not going anywhere. But

2222
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: Cody Davis is a guy that is obviously a valuable

2223
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: special team or that if they think that these kids

2224
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,520
Speaker 1: that they're you know the schoolers and you know Bledsoe

2225
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: and you know these other guys that they've been said

2226
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: Mitchell to Marcus. Mitchell is another one that's been doing

2227
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. If they think one or

2228
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: two of these guys can fill some of those roles. Again,

2229
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 1: that's what preseasons four. You know, put him out there,

2230
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 1: let him call the protection protection. See if he does

2231
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: it right, and if he does it right, you know

2232
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 1: you got to give him a chance. Yeah, I think

2233
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of the like discussions about that

2234
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: conflict of keep Bledsoe a guy that might actually play

2235
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: defense for you as opposed to Cody Davis, who guess

2236
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: reliable special teams player. Maybe Bledsoe misses a play or

2237
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: two that Cody Davis would have made on special teams,

2238
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: but is it worth losing Bledsoe to keep him? And

2239
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: ultimately is that going to be the best decision? Josh

2240
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,440
Speaker 1: and Maine right soon. I've been listening to every podcast

2241
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 1: now for a few months and save them for the

2242
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: weekends when I'm working around the house. I love the

2243
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: banter and find Paul to be the wittiest of you all.

2244
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, this is true. Wrong must be from

2245
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: me as a as a lifelong as a lifelong Saints fan,

2246
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:17,759
Speaker 1: This podcast helps me stay informed on my second favorite

2247
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: pro team, and it's by far the number one football

2248
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: radio show out there. That's agin Yeah, thanks for all

2249
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the entertainment. I'm looking forward to following the season with you.

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01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: If you want my opinion on a few things I

2251
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: smashed the last slither of soap into the new bar.

2252
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is a top five all time quarterback, and

2253
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: the back squad is the most important exercise the squad.

2254
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 1: See he thinks Drew Brees is top five? Right there?

2255
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: How I understand why? Yeah, let's yeah, let's let's he's

2256
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: not top five. Let's put him in the Foxborough winter

2257
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: for four games in a year and see how he

2258
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: throws a football. I have a lot of respect for

2259
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, but he's not top I'm just going to

2260
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: go off. I totally agree, and believe me, these guys

2261
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: will tell you I've made that argument just off of

2262
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 1: what he did where he did play. I don't think

2263
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: he's a top five How many how many yards you

2264
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: think prime Brady throws four in the Dome? Oh? God,

2265
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 1: six thousand? Because I think he threw for a lot

2266
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: of yards in bad weather. I think that was a

2267
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,839
Speaker 1: big advantage for him too. So does he have Belichick,

2268
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: might have Sean Payton. He might have thrown for four

2269
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: million yards. No, Um, I don't think this is anything

2270
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: to do with Brady. Breeze to me, is a great quarterback,

2271
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: but he's not manning. He's not Rogers. He's not Brady,

2272
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: He's not alway, He's not in that class. Auto gram

2273
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: top ten, I can hear, top five is a little.

2274
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: That's that's you have to ask him about auto gram

2275
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: slinging Sammy Bossy, I mean no, not even in the

2276
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: same sentence, right, Sammy Barr, Johnny utes from Hollywood. He's

2277
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: he's a big He's just Trump. He loves, he loves,

2278
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: he loves sending us clips from mother from out of

2279
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 1: town news like you know, about to make bad. Yeah,

2280
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: he loves that. Why was Patriots unfiltered cynics of Josh

2281
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 1: McDaniel's head coaching aspirations? Who was who was the cynic

2282
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: of that? Why was what? Why were we cynics of

2283
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: his coaching? Head coaching aspirations? Josh McDaniels. I mean he

2284
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 1: explicitly said multiple times his goal was to be a

2285
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: head coach. Again, I mean, is he saying that we

2286
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,640
Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be a good one? I have no,

2287
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, second time around, he could

2288
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah. How much will the franchise miss Josh

2289
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,839
Speaker 1: McDaniels play calling ability? Fred Kirsch stated back in April

2290
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: that he believed this coaching will make additional upgrades and

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Speaker 1: it was not a time to panic. Fred. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good for the Patriots season. Boy, Well, um, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Josh McDaniels thing for you is a

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01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: good one in your argument, Fred, Josh McDaniels is a

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01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 1: failed head coach who came back as the coordinator and

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: was very successful again as a coordinator. Right now, of

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01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 1: course he was. But I also think he was successful

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Speaker 1: as a coordinator before he became a hit coach. No,

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, And that's where I would sort of

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01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: disagree with the whole Patricia and Judge thing. Right. Well,

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01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: they think it's a different comp you know, it's a

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01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: different comp for sure. Listen, like we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: I as far as Josh being a head coach, I

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01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: wish him all the best except when he plays us.

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Speaker 1: But I hope he does. Well. Why wouldn't I I

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: think he will. I mean, I you know, I don't

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01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 1: know if he will, but I hope he does. I

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01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,759
Speaker 1: think he's got a great team. I'm you know, interested

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Speaker 1: to see how he does it his second time, taking

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01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 1: your amount of talent that he has to work, right,

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01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's talk about no excuses, and I mean

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01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 1: and and a tough division. I mean, you know, one

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01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: of those teams is going to finish in fourth in

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01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: the AFC West and be like, what happened the efforts

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01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of analysis you only get from the efforts of

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01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 1: the world. Saw the Hall of Fame game, you know,

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01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know the Raiders put up thirteen points

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01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 1: in the first half. You know their offense is okay.

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01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, you know, it looked it was

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01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 1: the Patriot's offense. It was that that was the coolest part.

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01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that broadcast mentioned the Patriots more than they

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01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: mentioned the Raiders. It was. It was actually pretty cool.

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01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Their first drive, they hit Hoss Duke like three times

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01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: in a row, and I'm just like, oh, so he's

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01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 1: just running the Patriots offense. And then they go on

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01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: the touchdown to Jacob's toss crack. I'm like, this is

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01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 1: just this is just last year's Patriots offense, just in Vegas,

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01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: which is fascinating. But I think the underlying thing of

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Speaker 1: the whole Josh McDaniels thing, losing Carmen Brisilo, the offensive

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01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 1: line coach, to the Raiders, is I think going to

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01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: end up being a sneaky big thing that the Patriots

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01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 1: had happened to them when McDaniels left. It's one thing

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Speaker 1: to lose McDaniels. We all know his value, but Carmen

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01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: Brisilo is at least somebody that he was molded by

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01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: offensive line play right, and he talked to all these

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01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: offensive line guys, you gotta live it. You gotta have

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01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: been boring in it. You don't just like adopt offensive line.

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01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: That's something that runs through you. And Carmen Bersilo has

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01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: been an offensive line coach all the way back to

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01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: Youngstown State and played offensive line and he really knew

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01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: what he was doing. And I would have loved to

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01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 1: have seen the Patriots been able to retain him, but

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01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 1: McDaniels ended up taking him with him, and I think

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01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,839
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a sneaky big loss for them. Okay,

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01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 1: um Landon writes in I'm going to the Giants Pats

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01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: preseason and Boston for the first time, and must stop

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01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 1: spots and things to see around the stadium. What are they? Also,

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01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,839
Speaker 1: will you guys be around to meet No to the answer,

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01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: that very very busy. But if you got to Boston,

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01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's a city there's a million things the

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01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: Freedom Trail. Bro Yeah, get a cup, get a travel

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01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: guide and check it out. You know. I also tell

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Speaker 1: you she's you've got spots, right, you got the spot,

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01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: I got spots. I got restaurants. I don't know, just

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01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 1: gonna be on the North End. Yeah, got some good

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01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: Italian Yeah, can never go wrong. Yeah, he's gonna was

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: he asking around here? Like around here too. I mean

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01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,879
Speaker 1: there's all restaurants here too. I get here early. Maybe

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01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: go to the Hall of Fame. Oh yeah, you know,

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01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: if you can check that out, go in the pro shop,

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01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: get some swag, get a red jersey for yourself. We're

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01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: tour guides now, that's right. Oh yeah, we we have

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01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: to do a lot. We have to do a lot here.

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01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: We often help out people from out of town. Yeah

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: that's good. It's exciting when people come here. All right.

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Speaker 1: Favorite restaurant in Boston if you had to go to

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Speaker 1: one restaurant, where would you go? I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: Carmeline is in the North End, just because that's a

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01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 1: place I've been a few times and really enjoy. I

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01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: don't have an extensive Aben Louise shout out shaheen, best waiter, waiter,

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01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: excuse me at Aban Lewis Louise, You're right. I was

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01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: the same thing here. I have an affinity for Aban Lewis.

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Alex. She's like so many choices. I don't

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01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: really have one. I gotta be honest. I would say

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Speaker 1: anywhere in the North End, Bacco or Brico. In the

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: North End, Bacco or Brico. Those are two different places. Rico,

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01:55:56,680 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 1: not the that's very average the Buca. Remember, yeah, Aban Louise,

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a steakhouse, old old old school

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01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 1: um from well, I mean it's got that woody you

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01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: know oakum. From what I understand that some of the

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01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Patriots players back in the day used to frequent Aban

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01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: Louise courting, including Number twelve. Aban Louise catered a charity

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01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: golf tournament. I worked with Kendrick and he was like, Yo,

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01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: they need to sponsor me. This. The sandwich is amazing.

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01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: He really is always looking for a way to either

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 1: build his brand or get some endorsement. They also melted

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: cheese is on top of the steak, which is fantastic,

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01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 1: really good. It's some age cheddar on there. I just

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Speaker 1: I had some steak tips upstairs. They were pretty good too.

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01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh you're making me hungry foods. Not upstairs, Matt, I

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01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: wasn't very nice. Oh hey, all right, Well that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Two o'clock episode.

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Speaker 1: No show on Thursday, but we will have our first

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Speaker 1: pregame and postgame show on Thursday. So what's the kickoff?

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01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 1: Seven thirty? Pregame starts at four thirty. They need a

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Speaker 1: half hour to turn the streams over. So yeah, thirty

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 1: five Thursy six thirty. Okay, so four thirty pregame show

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then the postgame show for solid two hours. Paul,

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01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: those two hours. I just didn't think it was those

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01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: two hours. All right. Thank you for downloading this podcast.

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