1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm not going to 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Stephane never told your prolection of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Monday Mini where we 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: talk about random things. And today's random thing, Annie, Yes, 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: you're making so many faces at me. 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: My laptop almost fell but everything was averted. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, so many faces happening. I was like, you're really 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: into this or you're really scared of this. I don't 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: know what's happening. Yes, Today's Monday Mini is me talking 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: about mobile games again because I am thoroughly caught up 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: in one and I wanted to talk about kind of 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: the whole. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: I think they've got me. 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Mobile games has got me, and one is the one 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing right now is I'm not going to mention 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: the game because it's a big company. It's a big 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: gaming company, so it's not like the small companies, which 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: you know we've talked before. I was like, oh, this 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: is nice to say. They definitely have diverse things. This 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: has none of that. This is essentially a board game 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: that's turned into a video game that is making money, 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: and I'm part of that reason. And I'm very ashamed 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: to say this because I swore I would never do 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: such a thing. I would rather watch all the ten 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: thousand ads. But they were smart and they do not 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: have this. They even have a Discord, and yes, this 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: made me join Discord. I am very confused by the 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: good Discord. I can't understand what's happening on Discord. It 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: seems like a lot of foreign languages because all it 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: is is like signs and just letters and just emojis, 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the hell does this mean? 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: So it makes me feel very old. 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: But on top of that, I've become the boomer level 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: where I have used using Facebook. 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: As a part of this gaming. 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and I laugh because I have gotten so caught up. 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm not laughing. I'm kind of disappointed. I guess with 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: myself because the other day I was in a fight 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: with a woman named Deborah, who is obviously my senior, 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: and I was like, this woman, I'm gonna come get 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: her because you could attack each other on these games. 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: I was unhappy because she attacked me like ten times 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: in a row. I was like, girl, you picked the 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: wrong one. So I was honibly yelling at my phone 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: over a mobile game while my partner is sitting next 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: to me and has now come to the boy where 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: it's like, are you attacking Deborah again? Are you fighting 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: with Debora still? I was like, I will find her 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: and I will take down all her buildings. Okay, but 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: I decided, I was like, you know what, we need 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: to have an update anyway. Because I bought a lot 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: of games for my switch, I have not played anything, yeah, 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: because I really want to do the cozy gaming, but 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: I get caught up into like doing the beginning part, 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: and then when it gets I'm like, why, I don't 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: want to do this anymore because apparently my meager brain 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: practices wants to just put blocks together and then attack 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: people and make money off of things that's not real money. 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: And it's really disheartening because a part of the Facebook group, 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: the reason you join is you trade things so you 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: can complete card sets or sticker sets and such. It 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: feels really like, as I'm talking about this out loud, yes, 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: I realize how ridiculous this sounds, but there's five point 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: five million people on this one Facebook group, and then 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: the and then there's like offsets, and then the amount 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: of people that's on discord. 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how to look that up. So, but 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot. I'll say it that way. There's a lot. 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: But it's really disheartening because people want like minimal things 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: for fifty times what it's worth, and You're like, what 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: is happening? People are scamming people like taking things, and 73 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this? And I guess technically, by 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: the name of the game, it makes sense and it's 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: exactly doing what you think is supposed to be doing. 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: But you want to see better people. So I'm the 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: one giving stuff away because I'm like, come on, be nice. 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: What's wrong with all of you? You are the worst people. 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: This is where I've become. And I have actually spent 80 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: money on this game, which I was like, wow, my 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: rationale was at least I'm spending in this way and 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm not buying the Switch Game Switch. I already did that, 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: but you know, like this is just the equal to 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: that because I don't do the big big and you 85 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: can spend up to one hundred dollars on it, and 86 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, who does this? 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: Oh my god, who does this? 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: And Andy apparently in twenty twenty one, I think we 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: already talked about it once, but it's like one hundred 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: and sixteen billion dollars. People spend one hundred and six 91 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: not not just like earning in ads, people spend one 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen billion dollars for these mobile games. And 93 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: it says on CNBC that and oh no, this can't 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: be right because this was from twenty fifteen, so this 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: is really outdated. That it was forty four percent male 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: and fifty six percent female who were her buying these 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: But that was again very outdated, gey like uh information, 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is today. It does 99 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: say that some of the oh, as of twenty eighteen, 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: it was seventy nine percent more likely to do in 101 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: at purchases. So more and more women seemingly are the 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: ones who are spending money because they want to keep 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: playing these games or they need more material to collect 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: these things. And BT dubs Pokemon is one of the 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: highest grossing ones. But what out does that candy Crush? 106 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: That does not surprise me? 107 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Does it not surprise me? I assumed candy Crush would 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: not be the highest. The highest is something called the 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: Honor of Kings. 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: Do you know what this is? 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't, but I feel like I've seen, I feel 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: like I have an idea of what it is, and 113 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I've seen ats sort of a like fighting almost like 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: World of Warcraft Katar okay sort of thing. 115 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: It outstrips everything else. So it made in twenty twenty 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: three so far eight hundred and sixty four million. But 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: then like the second one, which is called pob Mobile PUBG. 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the brand I don't know, which set six 119 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six million, So it's like a two 120 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: hundred million dollar difference from that to this. I don't 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: know what if someone knows what honor of kings, I'm 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: not doing it because I'm I'm scared now I'm scared. 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a cut too. You're opening yourself 124 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: to a situation. 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: No. 126 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: Not well, the games that I like, the number one, two, three, four, five, 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: sixty seven highest grossing is one of the ones that 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: I plays, Royal Match, which is just the matching. 129 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: And it's really easy. They do it. They're smart. 130 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: They do have a level of easy medium hard type 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: of thing, but they make sure to all such so 132 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: you're not so frustrated that you quit, Like when they 133 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: get so hard that you're like, Okay, this is so frustrating. 134 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to do this anymore. 135 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: They're very smart about it, right, And I have caught 136 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 2: up on two of my games now that I've loved, 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: including uh, the Love of Pies one that I mentioned previously, 138 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: where I have caught up so quickly to it that 139 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: they have to do side quests because they're uploading new 140 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: areas to like renovate or whatever add up to. So 141 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: that's where I which I'm like, oh wow, oh wow, 142 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Like they are still updating to get new material, so 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: they're doing side quests that it's just like an easy 144 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: OHM Like I love that too. Let's go, y'all, it's 145 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: the whole thing. And like this amount of money, I billions, 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: billions of dollars because all you do is like they 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: get these deals, it's like ninety nine cents and you're like, yeah, 148 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: let's let me do that. And that's the average that 149 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: most people are like in that average of spending from 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: ninety nine cents to ten dollars a month, and that's 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: enough and that's not that's also including a lot of 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: them have the ads, right, so uh, Love of Flies brilliant. 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: You get extra things by watching thirty second ads, and 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: I have repeatedly watched all these ads. I don't need 155 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: people's judgment, but yes, like it's an interesting, interesting conversation, 156 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: like about who's playing what and how I'm caught up. 157 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: And then this level of like if you're lonely the 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: one the game that I'm like, this makes sense because 159 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: you again communicate with people. I've seen people like just 160 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: talking on these things and begging for like again to trade, 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: but also they're like, thank you so much and then 162 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: coming onto each other's site to help build these different things. 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: Y'all. 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: I know I am aging myself when I call these 165 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: conversations about what I'm doing in life, like because I'm 166 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: not reading books anymore. I'm now playing phone games. But 167 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: it's such an interesting way of building money and interacting 168 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: that it's no longer just like. 169 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: Hey, we're on chat rooms. What's again? Date myself I 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: just made myself said. 171 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: Yea, it's fine. I'm fine, everything's fine. 172 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: But this whole idea of this micro transactions where you 173 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: can make money geniusly off of getting people to play 174 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: for additional whatever LIFs or coins or stickers or whatever whatnot, 175 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: and the fact that they are making money tons of 176 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: that game Garden Scapes, which got really dreamed out for 177 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: false advertising. 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 179 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: It is one of the top five grossing of the 180 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: year with hundreds of millions of dollars. 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's big business. 182 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: I saw that ad that Pedro Pascal and Yes, and 183 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I was like, we saw it in movie theater and 184 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I was like, what movie is this? 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: And you were like, no, that's okay, that's the one 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Grandma game that I was like, that's not how that 187 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: because they had Kathy Bates in it too. But then 188 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal, well, after now Last of Us pops up, 189 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the what's happening? I thought it was 190 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: like a legit, Like the way they. 191 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: Set it up, it was going to be like a ten. 192 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: Dollar episode series of a murder mystery or something. I 193 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: have a question for you, because I'm interested. When when 194 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: is the breaking point when you offer, when you're like, okay, 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll pay for this. Is it like I can't play 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: any more unless I do yes, Or. 197 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Is it it's more of like, oh, that's a good deal, 198 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: or there's a goal that I have and they have 199 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: a time limit, so it's like it's only for and 200 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: they have so many quests that you have, like twenty 201 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: four hours to try to complete. And then if you're 202 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 2: so close, like if I'm nowhere near clothes, I'm like, yeah, 203 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: I don't care, but if I'm so close that I 204 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: could break it, then I'm likelihood and like, I'm likely 205 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: to buy it. But if there's also a good deal 206 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: and I do, I'm like, Okay, how many of these 207 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: materials will I get for this amount? Oh, that's not bad, Okay, 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: that makes sense. I don't And then the rational I 209 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: don't play games like this. I don't like do computer 210 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: games where you pay ninety nine dollars for whatever, yeah, 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: or a monthly subscription of whatever, and then you spend 212 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: like and then I looked at my amount of like 213 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: and it's still not outrageous. It's still it goes out 214 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: to be one computer game. But the computer games are 215 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: like ninety nine dollars unless you gets on sell or 216 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,239 Speaker 2: sixty nine dollars, like, but you can play it constantly 217 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: unless it gets broken or taken away whatever, as where 218 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: this is like, yeah, no, you just bought material for 219 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: this one random amount. But instead, you know what I've done, 220 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: what I've taken my partner's old phone that he doesn't 221 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: use and put the game on that and play it 222 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: as a second player. 223 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh nice, but you are the first player. The second 224 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: player is of course yea. And also just like if 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: I have to pause. But the other parts of that 226 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: is I've seen the reason I got that idea. Someone 227 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: else was like, I have six like they have iPads 228 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: and all these things. 229 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: I was like what. 230 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: And they helped each other. They help themselves trades that 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: like trade the things, and I was like. 232 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: What is okay? I can do that? 233 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: Yes, except I think they like even set up like 234 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: fake like Facebook accounts in order to help with it, 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: like cause you get extra things by joining social media. 236 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that would be so funny. I want 237 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: to see like the sixty minutes where they're like. 238 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: But like the thing, it's actually like I'm talking because 239 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: I've realized I've traded things. And you may have to 240 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: make friends. They have to join in friends, but you 241 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: also attack each other and take money from each other. 242 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: So I feel bad someone who helped me out. I'm like, 243 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 2: oh sorry, I just took twenty million. 244 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 4: Dollars from you. 245 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the amount some of them bank of you. 246 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: Some of them like like you're just like what is this? 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: And then I feel bad unless it's Deborah, then I'm 248 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: coming at you. 249 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: Deborah. 250 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Is Deborah still doing well? 251 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: She's stop. I think she figured out. 252 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: I figured out and I was coming after her, so 253 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: I think she's left me alone. But I was like, 254 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing, but we're fighting. 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, Deborah. 256 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: Every Deborah is like, what. 257 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: Is it me? Are you listening? You're listening. 258 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't think she listens. I'm coming for you. That's 259 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: the game I'm playing right now, on top of a 260 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: few others. I find it fascinating because it got me like, eventually, 261 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna get you like to the point that you 262 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: like it enough that you want And I feel bad 263 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: because this company is too rich to be doing this, 264 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: and the other at the very least, the other ones 265 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: are like independent companies or haven't been bought out yet, 266 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: or at least small enough that I don't feel like, 267 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, I'm adding fuel of the fire, although they 268 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: are not on this list at all, so maybe I'm 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: not making it as much as I thought. 270 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: I will say, I know what game you're talking about, 271 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: and I feel like some listeners can guess. Yeah, I 272 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: saw some people playing it. 273 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: Young. 274 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Young people have kids. It makes me feel creepy. Oh 275 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: really there's kids like you can tell about teenagers and 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't want to I don't want 277 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: to hit your stuff. 278 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I saw them playing it when I was waiting in line, 279 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: uh at Disney World. Really yeah, they were playing it 280 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: on their phones, and I was kind I was perplexed 281 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: because I hadn't talked to you about this yet, so 282 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know this whole thing. But I was like, 283 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: people still play that, huh. 284 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: And now I've learned a lot. There you go. 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: It's a whole different twist because that doesn't quite make 286 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: as much sense because I've learned some things, like because 287 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm friends with myself, I've had to like still from 288 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: myself as where like because the newer game version is 289 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: get a lot less, you know, we have to build 290 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: up to the bigger numbers. But I was like, oh, 291 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: it says I stole twenty thousand on mine, it says 292 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: it stole twenty million. 293 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: I was like, what what I did? 294 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: I definitely don't have that money. Why are you taking 295 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: that much money? And then my partner was like, that's 296 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: the whole thing. They take more and it actually in 297 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: order to regenerate for the game company to make you 298 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: get more money, like make you try to get more money, 299 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: even though it's not going to them, it's going to 300 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: like in order to take away from you. 301 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, what, that's so unfair. 302 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: That's unfair. 303 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: Why are you so mean? 304 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: I know you're a game about capitalism, but why I 305 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: think I just Okay, if you didn't know, you don't 306 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: know now, but like it's an interesting idea, because man, Annie, 307 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: we need to make a bus stuff. 308 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Mom've never told you mobile game. 309 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: We did talk about doing that, not specifically like that, 310 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: but we did talk about having what would kind of be, 311 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: I hope a tongue in cheek fun but also kind 312 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: of depressing like can you survive feminism? Yeah, or like 313 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: like I choose your own adventure type thing. 314 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, we could we need to do something. We 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: could think on this getcause like Muble game apparently is 316 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: the way to go. 317 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it does seem that way. 318 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: It seems to be the way to go, and then 319 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: have some good advertising. 320 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, no, I have another follow up question because 321 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: I actually don't play that many mobile games. 322 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: When I do, I do, I get it. I totally 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: get it. I'm gonna make you play. No, you're Deborah. No, 324 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: I can never attack you. 325 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. Because you can choose not to hit them. 326 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: I can't do it. I can't. 327 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: So no, I would not become your Deborah, but I 328 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: would get trounced because I couldn't do it. When you play, 329 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: is it like I'm only going to play for this 330 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: amount of time and then something happens, You're like, I'm 331 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna play a little bit more, like how and if 332 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to answer, it's all right. How long 333 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: are your sessions? Like how long are you? 334 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: So for this, you are really limited unless you keep 335 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: paying money because there's a risk factor two. So you 336 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: can times five so like or times a mountain. So 337 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: if you have a certain amount of turns, let's say 338 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: you have five hundred turns, you can do like ten 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: times that. So does like like takes ten of the 340 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: turns away at a time to give you more spending 341 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: more cash back because like it gives you rewards back 342 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: to that amount, so you can have I've seen people 343 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: who have like twenty thousand turns. 344 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 345 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: But because but you can do like five hundred times 346 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: that max per so you can be done in like 347 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, or for me, it's usually the high second 348 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: goes twenty. But then they have like these special things 349 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: where you use higher they're smart. Yeah, but it gives 350 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: you more spending, but it gives you less time, or 351 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: it gives you more rewards but gives you less time. 352 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: So it's very mothers know what they're doing. This is 353 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: the math they understood. Yeah, absolutely, so you can only 354 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: be playing five minutes. But yeah, and then you have 355 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: to wait, or you and you have to buy more, 356 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: or you wait for eight hours. 357 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: Right now, because honestly, I just want to I want 358 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: to talk more about this later, but. 359 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: Because I'm so curious about your experience. 360 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: But I throughout this time, I've been thinking about, like 361 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: so many things you're mentioning are newer, like discord and 362 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: going on Facebook. 363 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: When I was growing up, you would buy the like 364 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: the FAQ, the walkthrough. 365 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: You would find like these old web pages where people 366 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: were talking about things, and and even arcade games to 367 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: an extent where oh you're out of a life and 368 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna put it in another quarter. Right, this seems 369 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: like it's just the evolution of that. It really is 370 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: phone like with mobile games with phones and credit cards exactly, 371 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: and it's so easy to be like if your credit 372 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: card information is already saved, to be like okay, yeah, 373 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: I'll go, I'll keep going. 374 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean, and like not a sponsor. Google Play and 375 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: all the little play things on the phone are smart 376 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: because they're taking a small amount because they also do 377 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: the advertising for them. Like it's I think genius and evil. 378 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah it is, but I it's I am so fair. 379 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I even told you I wanted to talk about. I 380 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about kind of the world of the gaming, 381 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: like on the outside, the periphery of the discords and 382 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: the Facebook groups and all that stuff, and to see 383 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: how what it's like, uh, for women out there, because 384 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I do that too, and I for fan 385 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: fiction that is a huge thing. That is a huge thing. 386 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: The Discord group, which I got invited to when I'm 387 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: too scared to. 388 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: Join again, like I'm doing this and I don't understand 389 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: what's happening. Aie, I think we actually have a discord 390 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: We do. Yeah, Oh, my partner set it up for 391 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 2: us because he really thinks that we should do it, 392 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm kind of scared. Oh, we technically 393 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: have a discord that we can try to set up 394 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: I don't know listeners. If you are interested, let us know, 395 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: because yes. 396 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: Please let me. 397 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: We would do it for you, won't do it for 398 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: anybody else other than this game. Here's something I just 399 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: read and I'm finding fascinating. It says what percentage of 400 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: people pay for mobile games? Only about five percent of 401 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: players spend money on in at purchases. Mobile game is 402 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: an industry where twenty two billion out of fifty billion 403 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: comes from five percent of players. 404 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: Wow, WHOA. 405 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: What? I don't know how old this article is, but 406 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: that's that's not mathing to me. 407 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: I wonder wow seriously. 408 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: And I'm one of those. 409 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I bet there's some people who spend 410 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: a time. I bet there's like an outlier group that 411 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: spends a bunch. It's like people who go to Vegas. 412 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: Most people aren't betting, like maybe the huge amounts, but 413 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: the people who are kind of skewing the numbers. That 414 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: could be totally wrong, But I bet there's people who 415 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: spend a lot more than your average person and they're 416 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of moving the numbers that way. 417 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: True. 418 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: Again, there's things that you can buy for ninety nine dollars. 419 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, like that is a thing that is the 420 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: thing in I believe games like World of Warcraft had that. 421 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: It's like I will pay you real money if you 422 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: will give me this sword. And I'd never play that, 423 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: so don't yell at me, but you know, essentially like 424 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I will pay real money for this virtual item I 425 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: can use in the game. 426 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: Right. 427 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: Actually, yes, my partner played Elderring, Yeah, Elder elder Ring Yeah, 428 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: and they were buying things from people, like literal money 429 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: from people like what how would you do this? And 430 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: apparently on this game, I've seen people talking but people 431 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: have paid cash yeah for things, and I was like, 432 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: why why would you do this? That's so scammy? 433 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: I both agree with you and get it, like, again, 434 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: this could be a really funny cut too moment. I 435 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: don't think I would ever do it, but if you 436 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: like really, because there are some items that just take 437 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of time to get and if you 438 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: really want that item but you don't want to put 439 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: in the time, I can get paying someone if they're like, okay, 440 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you this item. But it is a really 441 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: interesting marketplace. And I know someone I won't tell the story, 442 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: but I know someone who has a really tragic story 443 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: of losing all of that. 444 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: Stuff that he paid actual money for. 445 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: Oh no, so it can go wrong, and always. 446 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: Be careful what you're doing interacting this way. But I 447 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: do get it. I don't think I would ever do it, 448 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: but I do get it. Y'all. Y'all, y'all. I'm just 449 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: saying y'all in this. 450 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: But enough of all of that, because I'm still like 451 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: shame withly I guess admitting these to you. 452 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: Are you playing any. 453 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: Games and that doesn't have to be phone games? Are 454 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: you still on your Last of US playthroughs? 455 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: I finished, I finished that recently, and I laid out 456 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: on the Foreign crid as you know usual, I did 457 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: just finish that. I finished. I actually this again should 458 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: probably be a separate episode. I have the same problem 459 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about before, Samantha about like we rewatched the 460 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: same things. 461 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: Over and over again. 462 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I feel that with games, and I have a backlog 463 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: of like forty games. I know this is a video 464 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: gamers joke, like in your backlog is forty and you're 465 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: playing the same game again. I really want to play 466 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: Last Signals again, which I talked about. Is this kind 467 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: of like Stranger things eighties creepy time travel thing, and 468 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. 469 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: I played it on steam Deck. 470 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: None of the things we're talking about are currently sponsors, 471 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: by the way, And I loved it and it's really 472 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: pretty and I like it. 473 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: It's it's it's. 474 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: Kind of a bubble text bas like you choose with 475 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: like three text bubble things. So it's simple and mechanics 476 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: and it's nice to look at it and it's fun. 477 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: I like the story. 478 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: But my problem is like I want to play the 479 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: same games over and over again, so I'm never getting 480 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: into these other games that I know I would love 481 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: and also want to play over again. But so I'm 482 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: sort of in a holding pattern where I'm like, should 483 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: I play that again? Or should I play something else 484 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: that I've never played before. But for me, the thing 485 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: is I get I love story based games, so I 486 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: get wound up in the story. 487 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: So if I start a game, I can't stop. 488 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I will, I will stay up all night, and even 489 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: if I don't finish it, I just get like, I 490 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: gotta know what happens next. So that's kind of my 491 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: version of the I just have to know what happens 492 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: in the story. I do have some in my lists 493 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: that have come up on this show that I really 494 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: want to play, like cat Lady and Catherine, which are 495 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: disturbing games about women, but I want to play them. 496 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: They're disturbing in the sense of like horror movies are. 497 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: They're not right, but so if anyone has a suggestion, 498 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: I do feel like I need to start chipping away 499 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: at my library. I did play because I've been traveling 500 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: more than I have traveled in a while. And I 501 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: bought my switch and I was playing Animal Crossing and 502 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: I did get some jokes aimed my way. But my 503 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Halloween party went great, so and I blame you, me, 504 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: yes you. I did buy Spider Man two on a 505 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: on a whim, I think because I saw an ad 506 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: for it. 507 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to say, oh yeah, all right, I 508 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: gotta get it. 509 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the holidays, even though I probably won't. 510 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: Play it all right. 511 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: I just feel like I do this all the time, 512 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: or like I have to get it and then I 513 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: will never play it for like a year. 514 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: But I've heard great things. So I've heard great things. 515 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: H me too. Actually, yeah, well the ad was great. 516 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Obviously it worked. 517 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: This is how they get us. 518 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: This is how they get us. 519 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Oh, help us, y'all, or'll be my friend on this 520 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: game if you're on that game and then give me things. 521 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: Yes, or if you have any suggestions. Oh yes, I 522 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: love this. I loved this so much. I can't wait 523 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: to talk to you off Mike more about it. Yes, 524 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: but in the meantime, Yes, listeners, if you're playing anything, 525 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: if you have any recommendations, Betty, thoughts about this, If 526 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: you're Deborah, come on, Deborah. 527 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: I love it. 528 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: You can email us at stuff Media, mom stuff at 529 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on Twitter at 530 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: momsa podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok at stuff I 531 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: Never told you. I suppose discord. Let us know, Okay, Yeah, 532 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: let us know. Yeah, let us know. 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