1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, Welcome 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt. They call 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: producer Paul Mission Control deck, and most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: You are here and that makes this stuff they don't 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: want you to know. How you feeling today, Matt, I'm 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: feeling feeling well. It's finally colder here, so much colder 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: than it has been that I get to wear my 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, my black leather gloves, in my big black jacket, 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: in my black hat when I'm driving, and I feel 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: like some kind of anti super serial killer hero. Uh 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: side know, Paul michigantrol dec and just chimed in with 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: serial killer. I don't know if that made it on 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: the mike. No, I don't think it did, but that's 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: why it was a super serial killer hero. Yeah. Driving 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: with your balaklava on h Yeah, it just feels good. Yeah. 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: I believe this is one of the states where it 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: is technically illegal to operate a motor vehicle wearing a mask. 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah have you heard about that? Probably, but they haven't 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: caught me yet. Yeah. I don't see how that would 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: apply to things that require helmets like motorcycles and so on. Anyhow, Yeah, 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I also felt the strange switch. Suddenly we woke up 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: and it was fall, you know, or maybe we skipped 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: fall and it's just winter now. Yeah, it's getting pretty close. 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: And you know, like many people dealing with the rapidly 29 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: changing climate, we are discovering a paradigm shift in conversation. 30 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Remember those old house yon days where it was considered 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: boring or small talk to talk about the weather. We 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: were growing up. That's something old people and boring people did. Yeah, 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: but I think maybe we're just a little older and 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: more boring that that is a valid that's a valid assertion. 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: It's happening more frequently in my life at least, or 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: I would say, I would say valid proposition because I 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: would I would argue that now the weather is becoming 38 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: so unpredictable and wild card esque, we all tend to 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: talk about the weather more because we have to check in, 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: because no one knows what's going to happen, you know, 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: is it is it used to. We're no longer shooting 42 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: the breeze. We're we're ensuring people's safety and livelihood. You 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: don't know, if you ask somebody what the weather, what 44 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: the weather is like in their part of town, they 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: might say, well, the tornado has gained sentience, which we 46 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: were not expecting. But scientists say that's because we didn't 47 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: recycle or something like that. Sure, I'm I'm not exaggerating 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: a bit, but today's episode is in a way about 49 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the weather. It is in a way about the environment, 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: because whether you live in the frozen wilds of the 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Arctic North or the sweltering climes of the Tropic or 52 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: the you know, objectively perfect environment of Hawaii, you've doubtlessly 53 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: had one of those weird conversations about whether with outsiders. 54 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, yes, says somebody in the upper reaches of Scandinavia. 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes the sun sets at four pm here. Other times 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: it's dark for you know, weeks on end, or the 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: sun just doesn't leave at all. It's it's normal for us. 58 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: And while weather across the planet can vary to a 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: wide degree, it is a pretty impressive that our species, 60 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: um most of whom were largely identical to one another 61 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: in terms of physiological requirements. It's impressive that we can 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: all exist for long periods of time and these very 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: different conditions you know, you know, in our cultures have 64 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: of kind of been tailored in a lot of ways 65 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: to these different weather patterns and the climates in which 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: we've you know, existed. Yeah, religions are born a lot 67 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: of times early on at least out of these patterns. 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: Good call. Right, Yeah, we're toolmakers, were arrogant, we are explainers, 69 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: and we are woefully satisfied with our own explanations. Yeah, 70 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: but we're also feelers because we've got a lot of 71 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: chemicals that float around in us that cause us to 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: feel ways, or at least they affect the way we 73 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 1: feel about things sometimes. Right, And I was thinking about 74 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: this too with the old Robert Frost poem Tree at 75 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: my window. You remember that, So there's this line tree 76 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: in my window is obviously it's about this tree that 77 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Robert Frost is really digging at the time, or to 78 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: be fair, the speaker of the poem if not, you know, 79 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe he's faking it. Maybe he didn't have a tree. 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: It could be a character. Yeah, maybe it's like a 81 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: metaphor for nuke. The war is something who knows, right, Well, 82 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: there's this, there's this thought in the last two lines 83 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: where he talks about the tree experiencing outer weather and 84 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: himself or again the speaker of the poem being concerned 85 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: with their own inner weather. And today's episode is about that. 86 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: I love that you set up uh, the the idea 87 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: of all these neurochemicals and reactions just bouncing willy nilly 88 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and unseen in every person's brain box. Because today's episode 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: does not center around climate change, it's about a more 90 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: primal question people have been asking for the very least centuries. 91 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: That is, how does the outer weather, the environment affect 92 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: our own inner psychological weather. Can something in the air, 93 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: some lack of sunlight, or some overabundance of moonlight really 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: make us, for lack of a better phrase, hesitate to 95 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: say it, but go crazy. Yes, let's say, act abnormally 96 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: through ourselves, at least to ourselves, um in the ways 97 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: we've we've come to see ourselves. Here are the facts. 98 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: There is a common wisdom that floats around the internet, 99 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: has been around for a long time that whether in 100 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: some ways can affect people's moods, how they feel whether 101 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: or not they're excited to wake up in the morning, 102 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: or you know, if they're feeling a little sad now 103 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: and then. And there is this idea of it is 104 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: it has a name that is kind of delightful, but 105 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's just delightful to speak of. 106 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: It's called SAD Seasonal effective disorder SAD. Yes, And we'll 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later on. Yeah, we're 108 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: just planning the seed for sad. We're here. It will 109 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: it will be fruitful later on. Now. Um, there's an 110 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: unrelated idea that my wife and I have talked about 111 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot of times because of her involvement with children, 112 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: um in in a school environment, of whether or not 113 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: the moon can actually affect us as well to the 114 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: amount of light that's being reflected upon us by the moon. Really, 115 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about, where the moon is and 116 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: how much light is being reflected. Can this make us 117 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: feel different? Yeah, stable perhaps? Yeah. Yeah. This is an 118 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: ancient idea, and it goes in a couple of different directions. 119 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: The ancient idea is um the concept that the moon 120 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: maybe not so much the light sometimes light Sometimes it's 121 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: just the idea that a more visible moon means a 122 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: moon is physically closer. Uh. This this dates back all 123 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: the way to philosophers like Aristotle and the often hilariously 124 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: incorrect historian Pliny the Elder. From the Roman historian, they 125 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: thought that the brain was the moistest oregon in the body, 126 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: and that therefore, like the oceans, it was the most 127 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: susceptible to the insidious influences of the moon because of 128 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: the way the moon can affect the tides and the oceans. 129 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: And this went through this idea, which again as ancient, 130 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: has gone through many different iterations and names. Sometimes it 131 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: was called the lunar lunacy effect or the Transylvania effect, 132 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: and it's the belief, you know, survived the fall of 133 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire and survived the fall of the ancient 134 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Greeks in the Middle Ages when people when when it 135 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: was just commonly accepted that some people turn into wolves, 136 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, some people are in league with infernal powers 137 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: and they turn into wolves, and that's just how the 138 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: cookie crumbles, right, Uh. They they of course thought that 139 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: the moon had these unholy influences even on um people 140 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: who say their prayers at night, you know, and the 141 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: the wolfs bane reference. Yeah, the full moon is a 142 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: weird thing. It's a weird thing. Back in the nineteenth century, 143 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: there is even this thing that you could argue in 144 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: court that, uh, you could argue that somebody was not 145 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: guilty by reason of the full moon. Let's say, if 146 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: you're a defense lawyer and you're representing somebody, and they 147 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: would make their their claim that this quote unquote lunatic 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: client was you know, not accountable for whatever he or 149 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: she did because the full moon was there. And we 150 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: all know how the full moon affects us, especially when 151 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: we're turning into wolves and such. Just kidding. This is 152 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: now the nineteenth century, So we've moved beyond werewolves, not 153 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: not fully, but we moved a bit beyond werewolves eight 154 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: hundreds Eastern Europe, people people were still certain, you know, 155 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: and and in in less uh you know, in less 156 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: densely populated areas in the world today, belief in physical 157 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: shape shifters. It's it's still around, you know, it's not 158 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: as popular. Yeah, well, I mean, and there's there's lot 159 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: too to be said there on the full moon. There's 160 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: there's a ton of things here about how the full 161 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: moon can possibly affect us. So That's that's the interesting part, 162 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: right where wolves aside, ancient rome aside, the belief in 163 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 1: this relationship between the moon waxing and people acting unstable 164 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: persist in the modern day. You will see the lunar 165 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: cycle blamed for everything from spikes and suicide attempts and 166 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: psychiatric hospital emissions, to emergency room calls and reports, to 167 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: traffic accidents, to dog bites and more and more and 168 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: more and again. Just hanging it back to our wife 169 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: and just for a second, she believes this kind of 170 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: her theory or her hypothesis is that the amount of 171 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: light shining down on a darkened earth at any given 172 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: time can affect sleep patterns, the way a child or 173 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: an adult falls asleep, how long it takes to false, 174 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: how how well they're able to sleep, just because of 175 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: an increased amount of light within a room, unless they 176 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: are blackout curtains or something like that. She thinks that 177 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: can have an effect on the next day. Essentially, I see, Yeah, 178 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: it's um disturbance and circadian rhythm, right that. I mean, 179 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a good argument. I would I would want 180 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: to hear the opinion too of how that if light 181 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: is if light is the cause there ultimately of some 182 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: sort of disturbance in otherwise normal behavior. Is it dependent 183 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: on the type of light? Is that what creates the disturbance? 184 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Because now we live in a place where many, many, 185 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: many people have artificial lights, whether they're even just computer 186 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: screens of television screens on while they sleep. So are 187 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, as a disturbed circadian rhythm the new normal? 188 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I could definitely see it uh being really solid uh 189 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: proposition in the days before electricity, you know, I like 190 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the disturbance has changed over time because of 191 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: the rise of electric lights. So yeah, I would just 192 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: say from you know, not to get into an argument 193 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: about this, but within at my home, the moon's light 194 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: uh comes into our windows at my house to such 195 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: a significant effect that it looks like we've got lights 196 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: on outside. Um, when there's a full moon compared to 197 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: when there's even a half moon or or you know, lesser. Um, 198 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: do you feel that's pushing closer to like anthropy or 199 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but but it certainly does affect my 200 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: ability to get to sleep and just personally. And I 201 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: just wonder how how much of an effect that would 202 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: be outside of computer screens, outside of you know, artificial life, 203 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's that's again, that's one of my big questions. 204 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: There would be the type of light, you know what 205 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean? Is it uv thing? Is it something in 206 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: the led displays? People are still debating about this, and 207 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: there's an interesting scientific quibble here. Py Chiatrists across the 208 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: planet and certainly throughout the West, including people like Miami 209 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: psychiatrists Arnold Lieber, have argued um have argued less about 210 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: light and more about water, the idea that just like 211 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: Aristotle and Plenty said, the full moon has an effect 212 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: on behavior because the human body is almost water. So again, 213 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: maybe the moon is disrupting something about the way water 214 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: functions in our nervous systems. Specifically, Other people, not just psychiatrists, 215 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: tend to agree, and large groups of people tend to 216 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: agree that the moon does something wonky to human beings 217 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: or is this survey a few years back that said 218 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: around forty of college students believe yes, the moon can 219 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: affect human behavior in increasing their likelihood of doing something 220 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: unusual for them. That's the thing's all case by case 221 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: unusual for them. For some one, unusual might be staying 222 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: up till three am and eating a pint of ice 223 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: cream for other people. Unusual maybe you know robbing. Uh, 224 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: toys r us. I'm trying to think of things that 225 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: aren't around, so we don't get any angry letters. Toys 226 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: r us or radio shack somewhere there we go I 227 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: kept its stores unlocked. A media play. Uh, there are 228 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: still sears in Alaska. Isn't that weird? So this this 229 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: is interesting because this isn't just cherry picking one survey. 230 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: Other surveys seemed to indicate that mental health professionals might 231 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: be more likely than the average person to believe in 232 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: this relationship, and sectors of law enforcement. That should not 233 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: surprise anybody, whether you yourself or l e O, or 234 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: whether you have one in your friend group or your family. 235 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: A lot of members of law enforcements share this belief. 236 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. Back in the nineties seventies, 237 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: the International Association of the Chiefs of Police put their 238 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: money where their mouth is. They commissioned a study to 239 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: discover whether there was in a scientific basis to the 240 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: belief that the full moon makes people Let's not say crazy, 241 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: let's say weird. What do we know? What they found? 242 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: We'll tell you after a word from our sponsor. Here's 243 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. Oddly enough, multiple studies, not all 244 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the studies, but the majority of studies conducted in this 245 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: field or towards this question, have found no discernible scientific 246 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: evidence that the full moon has any sort of physiological 247 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: effect on the human mind. So we can we can 248 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: bust the water myth first. Before we get to that, 249 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Please note everyone the way we phrased that finding that 250 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: the full moon does not have any sort of physiological 251 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: effect on the human mind that is different from a 252 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: psychological effect. Right, So there's a dilemma there, But we're 253 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: we're pretty sure as a species that if the moon 254 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: has some sort of, uh, some sort of delatorious effect 255 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: on human beings, it is not due to the water 256 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: content of our bodies. Let's go to the Scientific American 257 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: with some quotes that list the problems with this whole 258 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: water gravity theory, like, is the moon actually changing the 259 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: water inside of us? It says, quote first, the gravitational 260 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: effects of the moon are far too minuscule to generate 261 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: any meaningful effects on brain activity, let alone behavior. As 262 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: the late astronomer George Bell of the University of California, 263 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles noted, a mosquito sitting on your arm exerts 264 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: a more powerful gravitational effect on us than the moon does. 265 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Now that's intense. This is me speaking outside of the quote. 266 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: That's an intense fact. If it is indeed affect and 267 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: it was said by a former astronomer, so we must 268 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: believe it. Let's continue on. Yet, to the best of 269 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: our knowledge, there have been no reports of a mosquito 270 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: lunacy effect. So there's a little biting remark there. Um, 271 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: let's go on. Second, the Moon's gravitational force affects only 272 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: open bodies of water, such as oceans and lakes, but 273 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: not contained sources of water such as the human brain. 274 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Pretty rock solid, it really is. It is contained within 275 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: our skulls. This last one is the most interesting. Yes. Quote. Third, 276 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: the gravitational effect of the moon is just as potent 277 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: during new moons, when the moon is visible to us, 278 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: as it is during full moons. So ha ha, the 279 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: light of the moon is a more likely candidate for 280 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: affecting us. I'm just kidding, but it is sure. I mean, well, 281 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: let's find out. Going back to water. What this means 282 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: is that the perception that we have, well, it does 283 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: hold its own internal logic. You know, there's some analog there. 284 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: The moon affects water in certain ways or in certain 285 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, situations, then why not the human brain. What's 286 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: so special about the water and the human body? Nothing 287 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: except temporarily it's location. This means that if we want 288 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: to dive into the belief that there's some sort of 289 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: causal relationship between the moon and specifically crime, right, if 290 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: we want to look at law enforcement data, then we 291 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: will need to reject the water myth or the water 292 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: part of the moon myth, and will need to regard, 293 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: at least as some degree, the huge amount of anecdotal 294 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: evidence from police officers across the planet because a lot 295 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: of these folks wholeheartedly believe in this, but maybe maybe 296 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: not the way you think, because often you know, people 297 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: who work in law enforcement or trained to apply critical thinging, 298 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: so they will, hopefully they're paying attention and training, be 299 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: some of the more skeptical members of society at large. 300 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: So let's consider the work of a guy named David Hunter. 301 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: David Hunter was a retired deputy from Knox County, Tennessee. 302 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: In his book The Moon Is Always Full, he collected 303 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: multiple stories of police officers relaying strange events let's call 304 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: them lunar war stories, things that happened while they were 305 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: on duty during the full moon. However, a hunter does 306 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: not believe that there is a physiological mechanism at play here. Instead, 307 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: he believes it is squarely something in the sphere of 308 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: the psychological. He says that the moon crime relationship, or 309 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: perception thereof, is a matter of self fulfilling prophecies. And 310 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: he notes, he says, hey, you know, almost cops, the 311 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: adrenaline junkies, if nothing happens on a graveyard shift, they get, 312 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, disappointed. So the full moon gives a cop 313 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: of reason to investigate things he I usually ignore. H So, 314 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: just the fact that it is a full moon. The 315 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: police officer thinking to him or herself, Oh, it's a 316 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: full moon. I gotta check this out right right right. 317 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: I've seen the movies, I've seen the tropes or you know, 318 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: it's it's similar to I guess bade or mine huff 319 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: to where you know you you here, turn the beat 320 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: around once and then are you think of the song 321 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: and then you feel like you've heard it three times 322 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: in the past forty eight hours? But have you or 323 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: were you just noticing more. You know, are you using 324 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: turn the beat around as like a verb, like I 325 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: did a thing I turned the beat around, I mean 326 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the song. But yeah, you turn the beat around if 327 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: you'd like, you know, But but you know, this doesn't 328 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: take into account like I'm just imagining. I'm not cooping 329 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Hunters writing here. I'm just saying there's a differ prints 330 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: between investigating, like having something to investigate and choosing to 331 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: investigate something. And so I guess what I'm trying to 332 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: say is a police officer generally is going to respond 333 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: to calls that come through, especially you know, uniform police 334 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: officer that's in a patrol vehicle or is on patrol. 335 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: They will get called to a thing to investigate something, 336 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: or they will observe something and investigate it. Right, those 337 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: are generally the two ways in which, uh, a report 338 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: is going to get generated for you know, something that 339 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: the police officer did that evening. I don't know how 340 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: them choosing to or not to investigate something would differ 341 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: with the moon, because that would also happen. What I 342 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: think you're raising is a fascinating point because in the 343 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: order of operations, right, the chain of events, their decision 344 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: to whether or not to investigate something a k a. 345 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: Do their job occurs after something has already happened, Right, 346 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: so they are reacting to an event, hopefully rather than 347 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: just going out there and whatever. Right, I doubt that. 348 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: I doubt that, but I see what you're saying. It's 349 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: very important because then that means that their decision has 350 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: very little to do with whether or not there is 351 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: a higher a higher number of incidents during the evening 352 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: of a full moon. Right, yeah, one would have to 353 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: come before the other. Okay, uh And interesting too, because 354 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: I know I feel like you're big proponent of the 355 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: light argument, just feeling it. It's interesting. Well what about 356 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: when a full moon is out during the day? Oh yeah, 357 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: and it's observable, crazy pandemonium kids everywhere like the moon there. Yeah, 358 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: I think I don't know if anybody else remembers this, 359 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: but I very clearly the first time I saw the 360 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: moon during the day and I thought the jig was up. 361 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was the end, you know what I mean. 362 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: I was like, well, the quality is going to fall 363 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: off a little bit at the end, so we had 364 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: a good run. Well, it is a weird. That is 365 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: a weird thing. I wonder how universal the concept is. Um. 366 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a sense growing up that the sun 367 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: is out or the moon is out right and the 368 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: moon is out at night, of the sun is out 369 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: at day, and you cannot have both because how could 370 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: it be night end day. That's not a thing, that's 371 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: not possible. But then you, you know, begin to realize 372 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: that the sun and moon, like all things, are a 373 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: sliding scale or a spectrum of almost all things. It's 374 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: this weird it's this weird function of reality night and 375 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: day or just part of the same wheel man. Yeah, 376 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: that's true. Uh So let's let's go back, because we 377 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: do have to point out, in all fairness to the 378 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: retired depth the hunter that he is, by his own admission, 379 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: not a scientist. He is collecting this in in a 380 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: way that's very similar to um, the way someone would 381 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: collect folklore, you know what. I So, let's go to 382 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: members of academia, members of the Ivory Tower, the capital 383 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: a academy. Finally, uh University California, Irvine criminology professor Karis 384 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: Kubrin calls this perception amongst l e O s a 385 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: kind of confirmation bias, adding that the officers are looking 386 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: for evidence that confirms their pre existing belief. Pre Existing 387 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: is a phrase I I inserted into that quotation. So 388 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: let me not mislead you, fellow listeners. This is something personally, 389 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: and this is just one person's opinion that I could 390 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: get behind, because we know that happens. We know this 391 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: happens often to everyone. We we build coincidences or we 392 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: curate coincidence in a way that um most aids, and 393 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: it bets our own narrative. So you could go through 394 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: a troublesome traffic light fifty times, right, and it's it. 395 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's always green, right, except for the twelve times 396 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: that you happen to catch it when it's red light. 397 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: And then by time eleven, you're like, this light sucks. 398 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: This happens all the time. How much of my life 399 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: have I spent here waiting at this pos traffic light? 400 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: And then you know the way other people work. If 401 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: you say that, especially if you're complaining about traffic, other 402 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: people are not going to go what is wrong with you? 403 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: That light is awesome. I looked at my stats for 404 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: that light, and Buddy, I am green sixty percent at 405 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: the time. No, they're gonna go, yeah, man, traffic lights blow. 406 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's like they should 407 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: just pay them red because the color never changes. There 408 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: are very few of us, but there are a few 409 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: of us who would take the side of the traffic 410 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: light just by default because somebody's complaining. Oh yeah, yeah, 411 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: I I. I don't want to get too far into this, 412 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: but I've been involved. It's when we're traffic light conversations. 413 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Do you know how easy those systems are to hack? Yeah? 414 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: It is frightening, dude, It is frightening. How uh how 415 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: little effort it would take to totally collapse some traffic 416 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: systems in cities here in the US. We're supposed to 417 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: be a developed country. In Atlanta, it takes about three 418 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: broken lights to just screw up the whole thing. I know. Yeah, 419 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: we all call it a day at that point. That's why. Yeah, 420 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty rough, especially especially neighbor were working. 421 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: It's funny. I'm doing a I'm doing an episode later 422 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: this week spoiler alert for our show car Stuff, which 423 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: has hit the road again, and one of the one 424 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: of the things we're gonna look at is the cost 425 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: of traffic. Like traffic, it is expensive. I had no idea. 426 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: Forget millions, forget billions. It costs like trillions of dollars 427 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, but dude, strategic traffic. If you've got 428 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: a business that's on like a major road, yeah, traffic 429 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: is the stuff. Man. I was thinking that, Okay, this 430 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: is a terrible idea. I want to preface this. This 431 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: is a terrible idea. No one do it. It's not cool. 432 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: But it would work. Oh god, I added that at 433 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: the end. So, we have a lot of traffic jams. 434 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: Right in other cities, you'll see people who wait at 435 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: traffic jams to sell things, right, So what if we 436 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: had our worst traffic jams here in Atlanta tend to 437 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: be on interstates. What if we had some kind of 438 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: like side scooter type things that could go out when 439 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: traffic is stopped when it's good blocked and sell snacks, 440 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: uh sell, sell beverages, non alcohol like uh sell you know, 441 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: do dads, flowers toys. It's it's like a rolling convenience 442 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: store on the highways, on the highway, on the shoulder 443 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: of the highway in places where again like four thirty 444 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: to seven thirty, it's the only time they're open because 445 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: that's the only time traffic is slow enough for these 446 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: people not to get killed. Now Here the three reasons 447 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: it is a horrible idea. One, I would want to 448 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: operate it as a nonprofit and give the money to 449 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: disadvantage people, which is never gonna fly with Atlanta's government. Two. Uh, 450 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about sending people out in traffic. Even if 451 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the speed is zero that could very quickly become sixty 452 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: and then we're just like one scrape up away from 453 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing collapsing. Yeah, but I bet you could 454 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: charge a premium on this is this is my solution, right, 455 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Because people are stuck in traffic, they can't escape on 456 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: some exit because they know if they go escape on 457 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: the exit to hit up whatever fast food joint or 458 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: let's say a racetrack or q T here or insert 459 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: your gas station seven eleven here, Um, they know it's 460 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: just gonna take even longer to get back on the 461 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: highway and they won't be able to get where they're going. 462 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: But if somebody, let's say, was on the side of 463 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the road and they could make it to you, if 464 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: they could get to your car door your window, roll 465 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: it down and that's all you gotta do. Roll down 466 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: your window and swipe your card and you can have 467 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: let's just say, some something as simple as some chips 468 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and an ice cold beverage. They will pay you like 469 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: movie theater prices. And if they're paying movie theater prices, 470 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: not only can you pay for your staff and they'll 471 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: have a pretty nice wage. You'll be able to donate 472 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a good chunk of that the way you wanted to 473 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: donate it. Again, the city government will never let it happen. 474 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: But I like what you're saying because then also think 475 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: about this, Uh well, the last problem, the last problem, 476 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: of course, I think I have a solution to the 477 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: last problem is in the biggest ones, which is it 478 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: would further ruin cripple traffic to have everybody trying to 479 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: get to the shoulder at a stopping point. You know, 480 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: of course there it's a very self centered species, so 481 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of people in the middle 482 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: who are like, hey, forget you buddy, bring that RBS 483 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: to me. I got things to do. Uh, it's true. 484 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: But here's the solution. Instead of people, when we just 485 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: send drones out. That was good. That was literally the 486 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: thing next. Yeah, drones, you just need uh reliably for 487 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: them to operate at peak efficiency. You need a sunroof, though, 488 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: so it's already kind of for the elite. I mean 489 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: it would be anyway, if you're gonna pay movie theater 490 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: prices for anything, right, I guess, I guess there aren't 491 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people who who are just scraping by 492 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: so they could save up for their drone. Uh chloopas drone, 493 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: chalupas man. You know what, I apologize for derailing us here. 494 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think of this idea. Matt. 495 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: You're kind, you're you're kind of turning me back into 496 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: a proponent of it. You know, I would, I'd get 497 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: into this venture. Cool. I think I agree with you. Also, 498 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: if we partner up with a fast food franchise, since 499 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: we're already ruining the world with drones them, we could 500 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: we could get them to sink some of the overhead 501 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: costs for us. Um. You know there's this fast food 502 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: chain that makes chicken sandwiches. Not the one you're thinking about, 503 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: it's that one from Louisiana. Uh if you had them 504 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: with their chicken sandwiches. Oh, my goodness, food for thought, 505 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: literally food for thought. Let's let's go back to Sorry, 506 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: I got us to traffic from from folklore in the moon. 507 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: But let's go back to the Academy capital A. There's 508 00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: another professor who attributes this perception, this causual perception between 509 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: the moon and extraordinary behavior to folklore rather than to science. 510 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Professor Elizabeth Loftis says she will not outright condone a 511 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: correlation between the moon and craziness, but she does concede 512 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: that quote. Maybe mentally ill people get weirded out by 513 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the full moon and behave in strange ways. If this 514 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: is the case, then what we might be perceiving as 515 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a weird effect of moonlight or gravity or water, what 516 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: have you, may in fact just be a collection of 517 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: isolated incidents wherein people who were already unwell, where somehow 518 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: triggered by a specific environmental event. And in these cases, 519 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: maybe it just happened to be the moon. Maybe we're 520 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: not paying enough attention to other things, like an eclipse. 521 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: People go nuts steering an eclipse, you know, for one 522 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: reason or another. Back to what you said about religio, 523 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: Some religions are founded on being able to predict an 524 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: eclipse and then go absolutely ham when one happens. They 525 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: are wonderful, they are they are but you know, if 526 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: you can get a spot where you get totality. Ah, 527 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: but but the moon is the moon alone, is not 528 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: the weather nor the environment entire So we mentioned sad earlier, 529 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: but what exactly is it? How does it work? Will 530 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: tell you after a word from our sponsors, and we 531 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: are back. So let's get sad everybody. Um sorry, um, 532 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: so let's let's discuss seasonal effective disorder. It's um it's 533 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: more rare than probably the media would want you to believe, 534 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: or has made us believe, but it is indeed very 535 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: much a real thing. And let's just talk about what 536 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: it means. Seasonality or this disorder is reported by approximately 537 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: ten people with depression. So that's somebody who already is 538 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: feeling depression or having depression, and they are either saying 539 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: this is a part of it or the entirety of 540 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: their depression, of the changes in season. Then of those 541 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: with bipolar disorder also, you know, report that seasonality or 542 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: seasonal effective disorder is also affecting them, right right, Like, 543 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: I I know what my uh my variation may be 544 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: mood and emotion values, peaks and values exactly, and even 545 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: correcting for that, I notice some enormous values and there 546 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: are some fascinating real reasons behind some of this stuff. 547 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: That again, as we're talking a little bit more about 548 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: the chemicals in our bodies and how those change this stuff, Um, 549 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: it goes deeper in it and it speaks to our connection, 550 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: humanity's connection to the sun. Oh sure, yeah. According to 551 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: the Mayo Clinic, SAD or seasonal effective disorder, it's a 552 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: type of depression that's related to changes in the seasons. 553 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: It begins and ends around the same couple of times 554 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: every year. And if you're like most people with this condition, 555 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: your symptoms start in autumn. They begin in the fall, 556 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: they continue into the winter months. You are lethargic, your 557 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: energy is sapped, you feel moody less often. We have 558 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: seen cases of people reporting SAD in the other direction 559 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: in the spring or early summer. The signs and symptoms 560 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: are going to be very familiar for anyone who has 561 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: had these win tree blues before. You will feel depressed 562 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: most of the day, almost every day. The stuff that 563 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: you enjoyed, video games, volleyball, cyber bullying, Twitter, people or whatever, 564 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: you don't enjoy it anymore. You have low energy. But 565 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: even though you feel tired all the time you cannot sleep. 566 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: You also don't enjoy a lot of the food you 567 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: used to like. A lot of people report that they 568 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: feel agitated when when they're experiencing this, or or sluggish, 569 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: having a difficult time concentrating, like let's say, if you're 570 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: at school or at work, just can't really wrap your 571 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: mind around one thing. Um, feeling hopeless, sometimes feeling guilty 572 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: or worthless. Again, these are a lot of a lot 573 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: of these symptoms of just overall depression too, having frequent 574 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: thoughts of death or suicide. And there's some science to this. 575 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: As you would as you had said met, we know 576 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: that when your body, as long as you qualify as 577 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: a human being, when your body is exposed to less sunlight, 578 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: it produces more melatonin. Melatonin is the hormone that makes 579 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: you sleepy. It's pretty popular in the West as a 580 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: sleep aid nowadays. Then there's also a pretty solid idea 581 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: called the face shift hypothesis. The face shift hypothesis proposes 582 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: what we had just talked about earlier in the beginning 583 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: of the show, and it says that shortened days caused 584 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: the timing of our circadian rhythms to fall out of 585 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: sync with the actual time of day because there's this 586 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: delay in the release of melatonin. And just as your body, 587 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: your flesh bag, begins craving these mid day naps, your 588 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: brain begins producing lower levels of serotonin. Yeah, the tickle, 589 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: that's what I call it. Yeah, your brain stops making 590 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: the tickle that is with a capital T. So your mood, 591 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: your appetite, your sleep, your sexual desire, none of them, 592 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: none of them scratch the itch anymore. You know, you 593 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: don't get the tickle. What's the point of living if 594 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to, you know, if you don't enjoy 595 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: the way stuff taste, if you're not excited about doing something, 596 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: you're just sort of getting a participation grade. Yeah, the 597 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: tickle of it's of the highest import and that stinks 598 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: to have it deadened, a little bit nullified in a way. Yeah, 599 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: And how like, for instance, I'm a I'm a person 600 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: who goes through i mean dark times pretty regularly. Yeah, right, 601 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the reasons we get 602 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: a logged for. Well, but but we did, we did 603 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: find the science here, and then we not only found 604 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: the science, we found beyond the microcosmic neurochemical mechanisms of 605 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: every individual brain we found that society's wherein people regularly 606 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: experience this deprivation of light to an extreme degree. The 607 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: societies have banded together and created group solutions or attempts 608 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 1: at group solutions for sunlight deprivation. That's why a lot 609 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: of people living in the Arctic Circle, a lot of 610 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: people living in against Scandinavian countries that have the infrastructure 611 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: to support community solutions like this, they have. They've done 612 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: some groundbreaking work with light therapy, and we we found 613 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: some pretty cool examples of this too. Oh yeah, there's 614 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: an Atlantic article called will Norway Ever Beat the Winter 615 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: Blues that you shared Ben and in here it talks 616 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: about a southern town in Norway called Rijukon or r 617 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: j u k a n And it's kind of in 618 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a valley between two large mountains, and 619 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: during certain times of the seasons there, the sun basically 620 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: hits the peaks of the mountains are are high up 621 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: on the mountains, but doesn't actually ever get down into 622 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: the valley, so it doesn't actually ever touch the town 623 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: for long periods of time. And they figured out a 624 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: way to get um these large I think seventeen meter 625 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: wide mirrors that reflect the sunlight from the higher peaks 626 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: of that mountain down into the town square. And it's 627 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: a it's a fascinating idea. It's genius and very simple 628 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: in a way, but just the concept of bringing a 629 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: little bit of light into the town square so that 630 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: people during midday, like I think it was noon to 631 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: two or something like that, people can go out and 632 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: experience sunlight in a time when they haven't felt it 633 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: on their skin in days, if not weeks. And another 634 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: thing interesting that's happening in that town um in the 635 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: surrounding areas as well. There's a company called brain Lit. 636 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: It's a Swedish company and what they hear what they 637 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: do is they outfit a whole building, sometimes a classroom, 638 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: sometimes a home with smart lighting that mimics day and 639 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: night cycles essentially. So the idea here is to get 640 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: a human being circadian rhythms back on track just by 641 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: having their eyes experienced the light and the feeling on 642 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: their skin all those things haven't occurred indoors rather than 643 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: outside being affected by the sun. And then again we 644 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: returned to the nature of the light, right, it's a 645 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: it's a specific type of light, correct, Yeah, it's HC 646 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: L and l E ed the two solutions they have 647 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: and they call it biocentric lighting. It's really interesting stuff 648 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more. We are not promoting 649 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: this this company or this brand, but it's called brain 650 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: lit b R A I N L I T dot 651 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: S E slash e N. That's where we were looking about, 652 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: looking at it, and we know that the research in 653 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,479 Speaker 1: this field is continuing. Light at least affects us more 654 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: than we might like to believe. This is not Hey, 655 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm going on record. Man, you know I respect you. 656 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: This is not me agreeing with the light hyper This 657 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: is relucy. This is not This is not me agreeing 658 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: with that because I just I couldn't find any science 659 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: to bear it out. But that doesn't mean it's not true. 660 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: It just means maybe the science hasn't caught up with 661 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: the human belief yet. Um I told you just my belief. 662 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't got no science, but it might be out 663 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: there and it's worth searching for In some people with 664 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: bipolar disorder. We also know that spring and summer can 665 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: bring on symptoms of mania or a less intense form 666 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: of mania hypomania, and fall and winter can be a 667 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: time of deep depression. Here's another. Here's the ultimate answer. 668 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Though not just counting light, which is only one part 669 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: of our environment. Let's think of the weather all the 670 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: other things. The weather is wind, barometric pressure, niddity things 671 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: like that. Pressure is a big one. Pressure is a 672 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: huge one. And it turns out that everyday weather can 673 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: change your mood. If you are already unhappy, if you're 674 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: already having a bad time, don't worry. Weather can make it. 675 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: If you're in a good mood. Uh, you are more, 676 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: you are less susceptible to changes in environment or changes 677 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: in you know, weather affecting you are a mental state. 678 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 1: I'll go with this. I've got stuff to add. I'll 679 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: bring it back later. Let's let's go through this. Okay, 680 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: So first things first, two thousand eight study associated with 681 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: the a P a American Psychological Association, published in the 682 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: journal Emotion indicates the weather can indeed mess with you 683 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: if you're already feeling down in the dumps, morose, sad, etcetera. 684 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: Researchers evaluated the personalities and moods of more than twelve 685 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: hundred adults through these daily questionnaires. So they're self reporting. Alright, 686 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: a little sticky, but these these questionnaires were cross referenced 687 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: with the local weather during the day when they answered 688 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: these questions, and they found that related like climate factors 689 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: like temperature, sunlight, wind, precipitation, so on, had no impact whatsoever. 690 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm positive mood, but the temperature, wind, and sunlight did 691 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: have a measurable effect on negative mood. And when we 692 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: say negative, we're using it in the colloquial way, not 693 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: the scientific way. Negative in science means absence of here, 694 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: it means bad. So so yeah, right, So, increased temperatures 695 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: had a positive effect on bad moods, while increased wind 696 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: and decreased sunlight had a worsening effect on a bad mood. 697 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: Although these effects did vary from one individual to another 698 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: in terms of um the degree of change, like how 699 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: extremely or profoundly they were affected, it did bear out 700 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: across again more than a thousand people, that there was 701 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 1: some sort of correlation. And additionally, this is just the 702 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: lead we're gonna drop. We're not gonna follow up. Additionally, 703 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: there are a surprising number of studies uh into the 704 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: correlation between high temperatures and crime, and from what we 705 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: can it is real when the heat spikes more crimes 706 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: occur hot time somewhere in the city. My friend, back 707 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: your neck, right, but no, but it's true. And from 708 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: what I was reading just this morning, you know, the 709 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: science isn't necessarily in on that, but it does make 710 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: sense on a very base level. If it is warm 711 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: outside and it is warm inside, a lot of people 712 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: will probably be going outside. There will be more people 713 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: on the street. There will be more people, you know, 714 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: mulling around. There will be more people with bikes, more 715 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: people making a trip with their um, their briefcases for 716 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: whatever they're carrying with them that may have something in there. 717 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: Perhaps more opportunity for crime, more opportunity like more victims, 718 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: like potential victims in an area, and also more people 719 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: who were not hold up in their house because it's 720 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: cold and rainy, who be the you know, potential mugger 721 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: or burglar or whatever. Um, it does feel like there's 722 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: a real correlation there, Like if you just imagine yourself 723 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: if it's cold and rainy making the decision to go 724 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: out and do something nefarious versus if it's hot and 725 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: you've got nothing else to do and very dry. I 726 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel it feels it feels real. So 727 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: there we have it. We know that the weather is 728 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: not conspiring against us, because the weather itself, as far 729 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: as we know, is not sentient, right, And if we 730 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: go down that route, we end up at the Guia hypothesis, 731 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: which is a fascinating thought experiment uh superorganisms at all. 732 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 1: While there is no currently well there's no scientific proof 733 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: that a full moon affects the human brain, and the 734 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: way that folklore tells us it does, the strength of 735 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: confirmation bias and self filling prophecy might render that exact 736 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: same science moot because some people maybe having stability issues 737 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: during the full moon just because they believe that's what happens. 738 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: We all grow up in a world where full moons 739 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: are portrayed as harbingers of doom or eeriness in works 740 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: of fiction right dating back centuries, so of course we 741 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: believe it. We've been brought up to believe that some 742 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: medical law enforcement professionals may be suffering from their own 743 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: illusory pattern recognition, But it also seems like they are 744 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more likely than the average Jane or 745 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: Joe whatever to believe in this correlation because they feel 746 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: they've personally experienced it. And while the moon may not 747 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: affect your mind. The sun most certainly does in ways 748 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: that you might not even notice, as can barometric pressure, 749 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: bringing about some pain. It affects my dog. If my 750 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: dog feels barometric pressure changing, especially if it's lessening, she 751 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: gets all freaked out because she knows the storm's coming. 752 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: It's crazy and it's and it's like half an hour 753 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: to twenty minutes before a storm starts. It's weird. Um. 754 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: And that's why you know, we didn't even really talk 755 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: about rain much at all. No, no, we haven't even 756 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: talked about rain. Luckily we did. I think we have 757 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: an earlier video on dogs and other animals being able 758 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: to predict the weather, right do we do? That? Make 759 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 1: me think that is one of the other video shows. 760 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm remembering a different timeline. Maybe it's it's I think 761 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: it's one of the other views. Oh man, Okay, well, 762 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: if it's one of the other video shows, I guess 763 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: you could still check it out. Yeah, it was probably 764 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: brain stuff or what was the other one called? Oh no, 765 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: what the stuff? The stuff? Gosh Bury it That was 766 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: Paul's favorite thing that we ever made with salt Bury, 767 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: that Let No Stand, Let No Stone Stand. On another video, 768 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: Stone there. But anyhow, what do you think, folks? Is 769 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: there more to the moon? Myth then meets the eye? 770 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: As as Matt and I and Noel and Paul have 771 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: always have always said and always prided ourselves on, we're 772 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: we're not afraid to have differing opinions. And it feels 773 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: like I'm a little more on the skeptical side of this, 774 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: And it feels like Matt, nuts, but where's in your mouth? 775 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: It feels like you are a little more on board 776 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: with maybe the science isn't there yet, and the science 777 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: might find something proving this, this hypothesis about light. It's 778 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: one of those things. It feels like the science should 779 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: have been here a long time ago, and it just 780 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: feels correct to me. But I acknowledge that it's probably 781 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: not scientifically valid. I don't know, though, because we we 782 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 1: know that light does affect sleep patterns, like it seems 783 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: seems pretty solid. Feelings and feeling and knowing two very 784 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: different things. What what's the weather like in your neck 785 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 1: of the woods? Fellow conspiracy realists, tell us and tell 786 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: us your craziest full moon war stories. Bonus points if 787 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: they somehow involve shape shifters, Yeah, yes, or UFOSI or 788 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: UFOs or shape ship. If you've seen someone transform into 789 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: a UFO, you win. Oh my god, I don't know 790 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: what you win, but we'll we'll figure out something. If 791 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: you have video proof, go ahead and you can replace 792 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: me as host on this show. Put that out there. 793 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: If you've got video proof of weather affecting something with 794 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: a UFO shape shifter, yeah, you're in. I accept. You 795 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: can appear on an episode. Don't please don't pod people. 796 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: My good friend Matt Frederick here where Okay, let's say 797 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: somebody does have that kind of stuff, Matt, how can 798 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: they get it to us? Oh? Well, you can find 799 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: us on Twitter, where we're conspiracy stuff, or on Facebook 800 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: where we're also conspiracy stuff. Or you can join our 801 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: Facebook group here's where it gets crazy, where you can 802 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: meet all sorts of other us. Of course, when I 803 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: say you, I mean you, but then also you, so 804 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: there's so many different us out there. What I'm saying 805 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: is we all get together as we and have discussions 806 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: about the show. I hope that wasn't weird enough for you. 807 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: Altered versions of yourself and so on. Yes, if you 808 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: do not care for the social meats, you can always 809 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: call us we have a phone number. That is a 810 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: true story. Um, maybe wait till the moon is full 811 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: and dial in. Yes, we are one eight three three 812 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: S T d W y t K. Leave us a message. 813 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: We might do something with it. We might just listen 814 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: to it in a room in a circle, turn bead, 815 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: then your message is inserted there. Um. If you don't 816 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: want to do any of that stuff. Oh, by the way, 817 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: Instagram or conspiracy stuff show. That's right. That's a very 818 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: good point. And you can find us. So you can 819 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: find Ben. It's pretty easy. Actually, if you type in 820 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: Ben Bowl and I've tried it a couple of times, 821 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: you can find them. You can also find that if 822 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: you are intrepid. 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