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Speaker 1: Very exciting. Mel kuiper Junior is with us a little

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Speaker 1: bit early, but I saw promo for.

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Speaker 2: The draft during the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We're still playing football. That's how big this thing has become.

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Speaker 1: And Mel kiper Junior is the reason it has become

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Speaker 1: so big. We were talking right before we started recording here,

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Speaker 1: Mel and you imagine we had Field on and first draft.

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Speaker 1: The first Draft pod is out right now with Field

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Speaker 1: with Mel and of course Mike Greenberg, and I said,

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Speaker 1: where's Field. How's he doing? You said, he's out there skiing.

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Speaker 1: He's out in Colorado on the slopes. And I asked you,

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Speaker 1: have you ever been skiing? And you looked at me

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Speaker 2: Are you crazy? No? No, no ski now, especially snow

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Speaker 2: sy I'm not a cold weather person. Now that's not

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Speaker 2: for me. So now I've not done. I told Field

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Speaker 2: just be careful because last time he did something they

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Speaker 2: But by the way, guys, this lets you be basically

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Speaker 2: ringing in twenty twenty six when I'm one with you, guys,

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Speaker 2: now we know twenty twenty six is big gun. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching Pitbull and little John look New Year's Eve. And

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Speaker 2: now I got these guys. Now I'm back. It's like

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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve once again. So twenty twenty six actually

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Speaker 2: in the new year. We're talking a little draft here.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love it.

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Speaker 1: Did you make it up till midnight?

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Speaker 2: Now? I made it up till like two thirty three o'clock? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're really always in New Year's Eve. I always stay

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Speaker 2: up till three four. The longest I've ever been up

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Speaker 2: was on New Year's Eve was five. That was the

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Speaker 2: year I met Kim. Wow. One of our first dates

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Speaker 2: was a New Year's Eve party, right, So I was

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Speaker 2: up till five o'clock that particular New Year's Eve. But

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Speaker 2: other than that, there's always football the next day, so

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Speaker 2: so I can't be I can't be out all night.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the one one year I did not care

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Speaker 2: about being out all night was the year I met Kim.

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Speaker 1: One of the many things I love about you is

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Speaker 1: how simple you keep your life and free that you

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Speaker 1: keep your life. And so I am wondering the most

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Speaker 1: adventurous thing. Mel kiper Junior has ever done.

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Speaker 2: I'm married, Kim. I got married because nobody and my

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Speaker 2: family friends thought I would ever get married, because they

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Speaker 2: thought there would be nobody out there crazy enough to

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Speaker 2: ever say yes to me. Okay, so that Kim and

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Speaker 2: Mikey knows that Mikey knew me before Kim.

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Speaker 3: So I would say, that's the most crazy thing she's

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Speaker 2: Mel was, marrying you is.

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Speaker 1: The most adventurous thing done.

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Speaker 2: See, nobody believes me, guys, I said, well, it's always me,

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Speaker 2: because I'm the crazy one. I've always been noted to

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Speaker 2: that as being the crazy one. Everybody says that. Then

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Speaker 2: who whatever? Ever? Beino Cook, late great Beano Cook, one

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Speaker 2: of our best friends. His messages the love Laard and Kim.

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Speaker 2: When he met Kim, he gave us a year and

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Speaker 2: a half for an over under for our marriage, and

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Speaker 2: Bino said, the smart money the sharps. The sharps are

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Speaker 2: on the under heavy and here we are with I

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Speaker 2: don't even have thirty seven years later or whatever. So

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Speaker 2: I have proved them wrong. I sure Dora Sanders proved

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Speaker 2: them wrong by playing better. Gabriel went in the third round.

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Speaker 2: I proved them wrong in terms of being a sustainable marriage.

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Speaker 2: How's that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Wait, so where did he set the uh?

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Speaker 2: And a half years married, and I mean he think

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Speaker 2: I'm a think about this too. I met Kim right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of December at Christmas party. We got

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Speaker 2: November of that same year. So eleven months after I

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Speaker 2: people all thought that was crazy when we got engaged.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? You're only knowing this girl for

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Speaker 2: four months. She's only known you for four months. I

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Speaker 2: guess what. She went through the draft process with me,

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Speaker 2: and she came to the draft. Now, think about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing the draft. I'm sitting there with bobble Lee

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine draft when Troy Eightman what number one?

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Speaker 2: I was sitting there and you know what, Kim's passing

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Speaker 2: passing me Trump cocktail. She didn't know. I don't eat

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Speaker 2: during the draft, right, I don't eat anything? I said, no, no,

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Speaker 2: had to figure that out. Let's figure that out. We

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Speaker 4: But you would agree, if you want a woo woman,

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Speaker 4: you watch mel Kuiper work a draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I thought that particular year we

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Speaker 2: It was phenomenal. So I thought I'd look over and

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Speaker 2: So that's probably the way I did. I'm here worrying

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Speaker 2: just say enough of this clown, I'm out of here. Right. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But when she's handing you shrimp cocktail, you thinking you're

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Speaker 2: Thought I thought it was like you say, she didn't

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Speaker 2: because you know, I always wanted I'm so serious about

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Speaker 2: I was at the time twenty eight years old, and

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Speaker 2: I have never ever eaten or basically drank anything substantial

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Speaker 2: all these years of the drafts I've been doing in

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Speaker 1: Well, do you know how lucky you are that she

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Speaker 2: I mean she survived.

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Speaker 1: She watched you at work during a draft and still decided,

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Speaker 2: Also work side by side. We worked together twenty four

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Speaker 2: She was right now, So I mean we've been together.

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Speaker 2: We've had about sixteen lifetimes together when you're right, add

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Speaker 2: up the hours we are. I'm serious. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I mean, because like I said, I'm not a vacationer.

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Speaker 2: Likely Kim's not either. We love being home, we love working.

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Speaker 2: She loves what she does. I love what I do.

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Speaker 2: When you're happy in that environment, you just you do

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Speaker 2: it is pretty incredible. If everybody's saying and doubting, questioning,

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Speaker 2: I got the best pick in the traft, I who's

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Speaker 2: the best pick everall? Ever? Who's the number one pick overall?

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Speaker 2: It's Kim Kuiper because there's nobody else in this world

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Speaker 2: I would have stayed with me this long, and Mikey

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Speaker 2: I always say the best thing, the best pick I

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Speaker 2: the best decision I've made.

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Speaker 1: Was that yes, yes, no question about it. Listen, you

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Speaker 1: a Baltimore Ravens fan. You love that city and you

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Speaker 1: love that organization well, and so I am wondering do

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Speaker 2: I did, And it's not any criticism of John Harball.

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Speaker 2: It's at some point in time it's good for both

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Speaker 2: but that was before free agency. But now team's changed,

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Speaker 2: I think John Harball. I think from just re energize,

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Speaker 2: I think John Harball will be a great head coach,

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Speaker 2: whoever he goes to, John Harball will do a great

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Speaker 2: job moving forward. And this organization is so solid well.

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Speaker 2: Steve Bashatti, the owner, Ozzie Newsom's still involved, Eric the

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Speaker 2: Costa Elite general manager. Right, they have everything in place.

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Speaker 2: So whether my choice will be Clint Kubiak, Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 2: whoever it is, I don't have Cliff Kingsbury, whoever they

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Speaker 2: are interview with all these different people, I would go

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Speaker 2: for Clint Kubiak. I understand Kevin Stefanski as well would

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Speaker 2: When they hired John Harball, special teams coach with the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: on that. Brian Billock, good friend of ours, right, great

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Speaker 2: to John Harball and you should hire him. So Brian

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Speaker 2: Billock recommended his heir apparent in John Harball, and Brian

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Speaker 2: So you know, kudus and that both outstanding coaches, and

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Speaker 2: John will certainly land on his feet and be a

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Speaker 2: great addition wherever he.

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Speaker 1: Goes, that's a great little nugget right there. Mel Why

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Speaker 1: What if Mike Tomlin gets let go by the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe the Steelers. Whatever part weighs with my

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Speaker 2: he's lost all these plays. You look at the team

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Speaker 2: Size them up. This isn't the great Steeler defense of

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Speaker 2: So again, Mike Tomlin, Fire Mike Tomlin. If anybody yells out,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that fan base is never the Jets. It was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was Pete gift Toopoulos who intercepted that pass.

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Speaker 2: I you know, in the on the line for Indiana Miami.

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Speaker 3: Mel What do you think is going to go on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some really good cohesive. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: the world and be confident you know everything you need

427
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: to know, you've done everything you've needed to do at

428
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 2: the highest level, and let the chips fall where they may.

429
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 2: You come in now knowing you didn't ace to find

430
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 2: no exam then if you don't do well, it's gonna

431
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 2: be doubt. You're not coming in super confident. You're a

432
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: little let down there after that game, maybe questioning some

433
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: things I didn't see what I thought I saw. Wasn't

434
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 2: prepared for this, stared down this receiver, all those things.

435
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 2: Figure it out in college. Argon's got defensive guys coming back.

436
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: They got the kid from Minnesota Paris coming into safety

437
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 2: to replace theenem and you're gonna have skilled players on offense.

438
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 2: Go back to Oregon, get into playoffs, try to win

439
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 2: a national title, and then be right there with arche

440
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: Matting is a top quarterback into twenty twenty seven draft.

441
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: That's what I would by Dante More to do.

442
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 4: Especially in that peach Ball, it felt like Dante More

443
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: got a preview of what next season would look like

444
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 4: if he did get drafted to the Jets. Mel that

445
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 4: that second pick. How much separation is there between Mendoza

446
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 4: and More if you are one of these quarterback needy teams,

447
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 4: I think this.

448
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: I think it's Mendoza right now. He's twenty two years

449
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: of age. He'll be twenty three in October when the

450
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 2: season begins. He's got thirty four starts. Dante's twenty years

451
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: of age, doesn't turn twenty one until May twenty fourth,

452
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: a month after the draft, and he only has twenty starts.

453
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: So with all that said, you could see it. He

454
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: trusts what he sees, he lets it rip. He's he

455
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 2: say he's cracked the code and Dante's still trying to

456
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: figure that out. But in three to five years, when

457
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: we're talking in the NFL and you project them ahead,

458
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: who can end up being the better quarterback? Who knows?

459
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Dante, right, because Dante can throw the ball.

460
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a beautiful pastor of the football and

461
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 2: he's twenty and he's like he said, it's only got

462
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: just a five starts at UCLA. We were gonna count those, Yeah,

463
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 2: we'll count them. And that gets to twenty. That's not

464
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 2: nearly enough even with those five on top of the

465
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: fifteen at Oregon. Another year is gonna get you to

466
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirty five, right, perfect, So another year

467
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: would really help him so much. And you're getting paid

468
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: a lot of millions of dollars to stay. It's not

469
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: like the old days where you had a decision to make.

470
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm pessing on all that money. I could get hurt.

471
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: You have insurance policies to protect you there. You got

472
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: tons of money being guaranteed to you to play one

473
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: more year at Oregon. Why in the world would you

474
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: come into the into the National Football League on the

475
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 2: heels of a disappointing performance. So again, had he aced it,

476
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: had he done a great job in that game and

477
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: led him to a victory, and that are playing, then

478
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: maybe you think you're playing with momentum. Now you're right

479
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: there with Mendoz are ahead of It's a different ballgame.

480
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: That one game meant so much, and certainly for the Raiders.

481
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: I tell you, I got a pen Raiser write it

482
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 2: in pen Mendoza to the Raiders. We know that. Well

483
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: there one the clock, that pick has already been made.

484
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: It's Mendoza to the Raiders. Then we got to decide, Okay,

485
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: to the Jets, if Moore's in this draft, is he

486
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: a Jet? What the do? There's some risks there, so

487
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: it's a lot still to play out.

488
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: Do you think more would consider not going in the

489
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: draft because the Jets are going to be the team

490
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: that selects him.

491
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: No, And I'll stank you no people, y'all me all

492
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: the time. No. First of all, they said it about Burrow,

493
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: now you don't want to be a Bengal. And they

494
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: said it about Lawrence, you don't want to be able

495
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville. Now John Elway didn't want to be going

496
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: to Baltimore. That Earnie. Of course they could have worked

497
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: that out. The owner traded him without Ernie's knowledge. Ernie

498
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: was trying to work that out, okay, or John Elway

499
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: would have been a Baltimore cult but he was sent

500
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: to Denver. The owner made that deal. Eli Manning flipped

501
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: the script on the chart said, okay, I don't want

502
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: to be with the Chargers. I want to be here.

503
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: So the Rivers Manning trade occurred there. So it has

504
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: happened where they've worked the process a little bit. But

505
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: in this particular case, trust the Jets. I know, Mikey

506
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: got your own opinion there. You got to trust the

507
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: organization if you're Donte Moore. But how many quarterbacks are coming?

508
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: Think about it. You don't want to be in a

509
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: position where you're the quarterback of twenty with only twenty.

510
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: He's twenty and only has twenty starts. So the apter

511
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: of lumber here is twenty. Right. You don't want to

512
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: be that quarterback coming in knowing that I probably need

513
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: to sit a little bit. I would rather be a

514
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: quarterback coming in and say I'm ready to go this Lincoln,

515
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: shoot you up and spit you out. I gotta be

516
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: ready for the scrutiny, the criticism, the negativity, the hate.

517
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: I got to be able to deal with that, because

518
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: guess what, they don't grate on a curve. When you

519
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: come into the NFL and you're a rookie, nobody's saying

520
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: what bat and ball? You didn't see that guy was open?

521
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: Why didn't he say? They're questioning everything. They're acting like

522
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: you should be a seven eight year veteran. You got

523
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: to be prepared for that. And if I'm Dante Moore

524
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: and I'm saying, well, they need to sit, watch and learn.

525
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: You know, these quarterbacks very rarely. Susie Kolber said this

526
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: a long time. You know, Susie was one thousand percent right.

527
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: We would sit in there meeting and this is ten, twelve, fifteen,

528
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: twenty years ago. This quarterback needs a smell. They're not

529
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: gonna sit. They'll sit for six seven. They're gonna play.

530
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: Ninety percent of these quarterbacks are. These rookies are playing.

531
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: And she was always right. So the best laid plans

532
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: go awry once the season starts and you see this

533
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: quarter back struggle or the AJ McCarron, Josh Allen, how

534
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: long did it take for Josh to takeover right. So again,

535
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: you think you got a plan laid out and the

536
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are you got to get that guy in there

537
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: because a lot of quarterbacks, you thought to the quarterbacks,

538
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: the great ones, they say you learn by playing, you'll

539
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: learn by what. So there's all with Patrick holmsat for

540
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: a year to help them. Jordan loves that. You know,

541
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers sat to help them. There's no perfect way.

542
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: Nobody has the exact way that's going to guarantee success.

543
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 2: There's no guarantees and anything. So for me, if I'm Dante,

544
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 2: the fact that people saying you need to do this,

545
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: and you and you answered your own question when you said,

546
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: I got some things I need to work on and

547
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: I need more reps. Get them at Oregon. Donte get

548
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: them at Oregon. They're doing everything they can to get

549
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 2: that team to a national championship level. They thought they

550
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: were there, they weren't. Now they feel they can do it.

551
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Dante wore is the missing link. Rayola came in through

552
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: the portal. Fine, he can wait, and it's Dante's teams.

553
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: Ah Mel.

554
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: In the olden days, there was incentive to stay in college.

555
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: We just didn't see it. It was in a paper bag.

556
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: But you know, yes, yes, that's a big long Yeah.

557
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: I agree, there's question. But now now you say, okay,

558
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: you're getting a ton of money to stay or leave,

559
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. These quarterbacks to have options. Trinidad Chamblas, who,

560
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: by the way, I think is a first round quarterback

561
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: coming out of Old Miss. If he's forced in the NCAAA,

562
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: they give years away like Halloween candy. You can't do it.

563
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Hit like this who wants to be back and had

564
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: an injury, had a problem, a medical situation he was

565
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: dealing with. You can't do that for him. Get your now.

566
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you know, you let diego. Pavia

567
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: played too, because the Juco years, All of a suddenly,

568
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: after all these years, I want to countain Juco anymore. Yeah,

569
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: counting them. It's like, really, but you're gonna do this?

570
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 2: So again, I think they're going through the courts. We'll

571
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: see how it plays out of Trinidad Chamblis is in

572
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: this draft. It's twenty three years of age. To me,

573
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: is the first round pick. If he goes back to

574
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: Old Miss, great for them, great for him, get another

575
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: year of experience. So Trinidad Chambliss, if he is in

576
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: this draft, is going to be a really interesting prospect

577
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: for teams like Pittsburgh, the Rams and some other teams

578
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: to consider, as well as Ty Simpson coming out of Alabama.

579
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: Taylor put it on the ball. Is the NCAA giving

580
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: years of eligibile of the away like Halloween Candy. I

581
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: believe mel Kuiper Junior.

582
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Is right about that. I tell this one real quick.

583
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Well, if Arch Manning came out in this year's draft,

584
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: we know that he's not, But if he did, would

585
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: he be the number one overall pig?

586
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: No? I don't think so. No. I think Arch made

587
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: great strides. And it's interesting with Arch because he was

588
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: overhyped and overrated unrealistically and the only one. I'm a

589
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: grandfather now, trust grandpa. Okay, because Archie said back in August,

590
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: keep him out of the mock draft I don't want

591
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: to see or you know, let's keep him out of that.

592
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's the they were talking about. Heisman Trophy winner.

593
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: He's gonna to trifecta, right, He's gonna win a Heisman Trophy.

594
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the number one picking the draft, and

595
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna lead them to a national title and all

596
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: these things, national title, Heisman, number one pick. And he

597
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: they're also understand Ah, he stinks he's overrated, he was overhyped.

598
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: Then their haters come out right, and then he starts

599
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: and I said, I said at the time, it's probably

600
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: good because he's off the radar. Now they can't beat

601
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: him up any they did. I can't hate on him anymore.

602
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: And they hated on him, and now he's kind of quietly,

603
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: he's developing, he's progressing, he's figuring it out. And Art

604
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: started to figure it out and gain confidence. In any business,

605
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: if you have confidence, you're done right, You're done. That's

606
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: what they need. That's why Dante needs that confidence to

607
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: be at a high level. I don't know if it

608
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: is to me. Arch got that and now another year.

609
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, what's he had. Fifteen starts, that's it,

610
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: that's all. That's not enough. And Grandpa knew it, right,

611
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: and the whole Manning family knew it. So this talk about, yeah,

612
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: he'd be right there with Fernando Mendoz, but Fernando Mendez

613
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: has already gotten where he needs to be. Arch needs

614
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: to get to that next year. Hopefully, Arch and Dante

615
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: if he goes back, which I hope he does, get

616
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: to that level where Mendoz is right now, where they

617
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: as Fernando has said, I cracked the code, and that's

618
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: what these two quarterbacks need to know. Arc certainly next year,

619
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: if Dante goes back and other quarterbacks, we know all

620
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks next year are gonna be a really good

621
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: saying in company. It's gonna be interesting. But that would

622
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: be the kind of battle between More and Manning to

623
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: see who will be the number one pick in the

624
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven draft.

625
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: Arch Manning is the rare quarterback to be both overrated

626
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: then underrated in the same season.

627
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Berton Gammut didn't he Yeah, but well, if

628
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: if Dante Moore does go back. We had Greg McElroy

629
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: on the podcast a couple of days ago and he

630
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 5: said he thinks there's an argument between Dante Moore and

631
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: ty Simpson to be.

632
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: The number two quarterback. And now you're bringing in Trinidad Chambliss.

633
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: Is there another guy starting at two that you would

634
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: look at and go, yeah, they could, they should take

635
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: him at two.

636
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: No, you know, to make Tye was in a tough

637
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: spot because he didn't have the running game and the

638
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: old line, and Ryan Williams didn't played to the level

639
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: he did as a freshman, so Ty was gonna struggle

640
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: that that was a tough call for him. I'd have

641
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: gone back because I don't think his number of starts

642
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: was right around that same number we talked about. Oh

643
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: he has is what he had at Alabama this year.

644
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: He wasn't a starter, so it's only that one year

645
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: as a starter is all he has. Okay, So if

646
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm Ty Sempson, I'd have been back at Alabama. But

647
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: I get it. He's fibly say hol he's gonna be

648
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: first pick. You come out, it's not real. You come

649
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: out when you feel like you've maximized who you are.

650
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: And Ty Simpson, you know, if you don't trust Alabama

651
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: to do the things necessary to get the talent around you.

652
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: They've lost some key players already in the portal. Okay,

653
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: so they've gained some, but they've lost some key guys,

654
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: particularly on defense. Then you go somewhere else and you

655
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: play for a year where they will give you the

656
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: fortification of talent that you need. Right So, if I'm tied,

657
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I would have been back at Alabama. He's not he's

658
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: gonna be in the mix. If Dante's in this draft,

659
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: then he's ahead of Ty Simpson and and Trinidad cham

660
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: and Ty Simpson has the whole off Trindidad Chamblas. That's

661
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: the way I would view it. I respect Greg, He's

662
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: got his opinion great. I would say it's Mendoza won Dante.

663
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna be the second quarterback off the board, and

664
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: either Simpson or Chamblus. I would go Chambless slightly over Simpson,

665
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: but that's kind of tough, the tough one to make

666
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: a call one right now. That's the way I would

667
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: forecast that. If those guys are in the draft, and

668
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: right now Chambuls are trying to go back and we

669
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: don't know what Dante's gonna do.

670
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Mel who is the best non quarterback division best player

671
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: in the draft, and is that player the best player

672
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: in the draft, You know.

673
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't. I'd go with the quarterback because of the

674
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: positional value on how well Mendoza played. I think Jeremiah

675
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Love is an elite running back. I think Marvel Reese

676
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: is a heck of a lineback, and I think Francis

677
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: cc malli Noah the right tack with Miami is a

678
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: wall of a football player. I mean it's a right

679
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: tackle or a guard. He is so entertaining to watch

680
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: what he did to get Curry out of that play.

681
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: That key play to Daniels. Yeah, okay, to make get

682
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: out there and make that block the Curry out of

683
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: there and open up that lane for Daniels on a

684
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: critical play in that game was a final phenomenal. And

685
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: he is he just dominates you in the run game,

686
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: pass protection. You're not getting near to quarterback with him.

687
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Sixty one is hell of a player. So I think

688
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: Mali Noah, I think certainly love Reese at Ohio State.

689
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him more off the edge. If

690
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: you would have had another year where he can attack

691
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: more off the edge and be that sack guy that

692
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: you I think they're gonna be. He's gonna be asked

693
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: to be in the NFL, then that would have been

694
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: maybe putting him at that number one spot. You know,

695
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan loves rvel Reeese. So those are the guys

696
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: I would think would be other than the quarterbacks. The

697
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: elite guys are not an elite receiver right now, Sadtha

698
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: the tight end is in six four sixty five coming

699
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: out of Oregon. I love mal we Noah. Like I said,

700
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle spot didn't really you know, developed like

701
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: we thought it would. The edge rushers David Bailey at

702
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Texas Tech formally at Stanford is really really good. The

703
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: corner McCoy from Tennessee would have been up there, but

704
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: he got hurt in January didn't play this year. Downs

705
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: the safety if t if Kyle Hamilton is not going

706
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: until the teens, I only think Caleb Downs could. Now

707
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: this draft isn't as strong maybe as some others. Maybe

708
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: gets into that ten spot, but Caleb Downs is certainly there.

709
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: And then we got the most interesting guy I know, Stu,

710
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna be talking about this is Reuben Baines junior,

711
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: probably the most interesting guy in this draft. Yes, at

712
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: any position, Yes, see him go out and just take

713
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: over games and recave it. But that's against college kids.

714
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: I call him aog's and other occupation guys. The best

715
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: in the world. That's the best tackles in the world

716
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: that you're going with the shorter arms and people tend

717
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: to prefer and the forty time we have to see

718
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: what it is. There's been a lot of mixed opinion.

719
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: You talk to people in the league, they're not as

720
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: high one Ruben Bain Junior as some others are. You

721
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: watch him play, you go strictly by the college tape.

722
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: You see you see Ben, you see strong hands, You

723
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: see him being coached from a technique standpoint by Jason Taylor.

724
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: So well, so all that what's gonna add up to.

725
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: I have him right now on the big board and

726
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: then probably in the middle of the first probably mid

727
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: first round is where I would have him. Right, We'll

728
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: see if he goes top ten, we see if he drops,

729
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a guy to follow with. The measurables.

730
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: Arm length and forty time are gonna be critical for

731
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior.

732
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: Right, But how about the heart? I mean we have

733
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: to measure that right.

734
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: And through the roof and tangible's through the roof. Yes,

735
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: a key Messador the defense at number three, who can

736
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: kick inside? He's what twenty five years of age? So

737
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: what who cares Tyler Shuck? What was he coming out?

738
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: He plays? So at the end of the day, if

739
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: you can play, you can play, and Messador is gonna

740
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: be right there with Bain, you know, figuring probably is

741
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: the first round draft pick as well. But how high

742
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: Ruben Day and Junior goes well? I think be dependent

743
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: upon those measurables coming out of the Combine pro Day

744
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: stick outs here.

745
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Speaker 4: Now should a team picking first have less time on

762
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 4: the clock because they've had months to kind of prepare

763
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: for this.

764
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that, especially when Mel writes it

765
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: in pen like that's it, you.

766
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, And I would write that. I've tried. I'd

767
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: said to Roger Goodell several times when I see Roger

768
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: at the dras, Yeah, I would shorten, I would say me.

769
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 2: So i'd say five to seven, give them maybe five,

770
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: say seven minutes for the first round. It's all to me,

771
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: that's plenty seven minutes, and then you go from that

772
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: point one. I would say five minutes per pick and

773
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: then down for the last round. So I think five

774
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: to seven minutes is all you need. I'd say seven.

775
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: If you want to be fair, what's it ten now,

776
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: whatever it is, ten, twelve minutes, whatever it was, Just

777
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: be fifteen minutes. And I'm sitting there. I don't really care.

778
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you wish it was more, sometimes you

779
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: wish it was less. And you're sitting there because you

780
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about it, or you don't

781
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: have as much. So I don't really worry about that.

782
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: I think you should be ready. There's so much time between.

783
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: I always said, moved the draft up. It used to

784
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: be earlier. I'd moved up to from end the vapor.

785
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: I'd moved up till early March, mid March, really moved

786
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: it up.

787
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: I'd have it right after the super Bowl, the day after.

788
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Get over with. Yeah, February is the super Bowl? Early March. Fine,

789
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: but you know I get it. Fine, it's a build up.

790
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: It's huge. Great. But then as far as the timing

791
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: of it, I think you have plenty of time at

792
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: five to seven minutes for every pick if you want

793
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: to keep it there for the rounds moving down the line,

794
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: keep it at five, go to three, whatever you want.

795
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: But I would say the first, second round, third round,

796
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't think you need more than five to seven minutes.

797
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: I was thinking if they put the draft side by

798
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: side against the super Bowl, I'd be watching the draft

799
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: every single year.

800
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: That is our super Bowl.

801
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: Mike. Yeah, Hey, I've told you guys this, and I

802
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: screamed it for years, and it's one of the reasons

803
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: why you're talking to me today is this draft. Ana

804
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: those back the day people say why are you wasting

805
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: your time doing that stuff? That's what I was told,

806
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: Why am I wasting my time doing this stuff? And

807
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: I had fans then, this was nineteen seventy eight. Fans

808
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: were telling me then that they look more for draft

809
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: day than they do the start of the regular season

810
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL. In college football. Wow, they look more

811
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: forward to the NFL. You know. Once I heard that,

812
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: I said, Man, I was like, I'm gonna sart a

813
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: value wighting players. I way do that. I was doing

814
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: it already, that this has a chance. Once I heard

815
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: that one comment from some friends of mine, they were

816
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: buying the reports. They became good friends. These for people

817
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: that were subscribers to our books once I heard them.

818
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: Because I used to take every call when that phone

819
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: would ring in the basement of nineteen thirty five Ramblewood Road,

820
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: and I'd be typing in my old typewriter, which I

821
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: still have, by the way, my typewriter and the phone

822
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: would ring, and I'd say to my father would be

823
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: sitting and say, can you get the phone. Nope, it's

824
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: your customers. They want to talk to you. They don't

825
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: want to talk to me, and I'd get the phone out.

826
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: Then I have to go back to my typewriter and

827
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: figure out where was I. He said, he has good band,

828
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: and then I'd have to get the white out let,

829
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: the white out, my mistakes. You know, you go to

830
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: a white out and it was a disaster.

831
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: Right.

832
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: It took me forever, but that's what he said. You

833
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: developed relationships by you talking to the subscribers, and I did.

834
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: They became really good friends of mine over the years. Yes,

835
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: And they would call it after radio shows with Myron

836
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Cope or Martine and Edmunds down in Houston or whoever it was.

837
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: I would get a call after call for orders, and

838
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: my FID said, you answer every call. They don't want

839
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: to talk to me, they want to talk to you.

840
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: And through that I was able to find out. Now

841
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: I look more forward to the draft day and I

842
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: do the start of the regular I'm thinking, really, WHOA,

843
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: I got something here when nobody believed in what I

844
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: was doing. I did, but I was even a little

845
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: teetering back and forth a little bit, and you always

846
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: wonder am I doing the right is? Is there going

847
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: to be a market for this that people care enough.

848
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm getting all this hate negativity, people saying, get a

849
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: real job, why are you wasting your time doing that?

850
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: But I hear this from my subscribers saying they look

851
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: more forward the draft day to do the boy I said,

852
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: I I may have hit something here.

853
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, cause you're a fucking visionary. Now that's why

854
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: you did you know.

855
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: That I got lucky?

856
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: No, would you be in favor of a if we

857
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: changed the seventh round to a rapid fire draft where

858
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: every team has like ten seconds to make a pick,

859
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: but they're all on the same call with each other,

860
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: so it's it's kind of a scramble.

861
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I love what you're trying to get melout quicker,

862
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: like you're trying to make this fast different health.

863
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Believe me, the seventh round we're all worried about there

864
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: where they're going afterwards? What are you doing? What do

865
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: we gotta do? Yeah? And I'm getting my grades or

866
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: draft grades so soon as the draft, so I can

867
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: get my draft grades ready. And that's what people getting

868
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: for their not way too early mock draft for next year. Yeah,

869
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm all. I'm all for it. You know, the seventh round,

870
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: and you know Brock Party was mister irrelevant, right, not

871
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: that long ago Rock Party was mister irrelevant. So there's

872
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: no seventh round picks. Isaiah Pacheco that super Bowl team

873
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: in kansasit he was a seventh round pick. Coming out

874
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: of Rutgers, I love the seventh round. So yeah, however

875
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: you want to do it. Yeah, I even think at

876
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: the end, I'm a little crazy. I've give them a

877
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: little more time for the seventh round because you got

878
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: all the compet story. But at the end, if I'm

879
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: there that long, a couple more minutes ain't gonna kill us, right,

880
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: So again, go an extra twenty minutes. Do whatever you

881
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: gotta do. But that seventh round is so critical because

882
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: guess what if you don't draft them, they go as

883
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: free agents and then you'll lose them. Yes, so that

884
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: the guys you draft where there's compensed story picks, and

885
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: that seventh round is usually stretched out because of the comppicks.

886
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: They are huge because guess what, the eighth round is

887
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: now wrapped up in compics if you're really added up.

888
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: But those ninth, tenth, eleven, twelfth round picks that were

889
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: so critical back in the day are now undrafted free agents.

890
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: If I started, I'm so old, it was seventeen rounds,

891
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: then it became twelve. Well, those guys are all undrafted

892
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: free agents. And there's a fine line between a fifth

893
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: and sixth seventh round pick tailor the answer. A fine

894
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: line between a fifth and seventh round pick and an

895
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent, very fine line there. So I'm big

896
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: on the seventh round and we're all, kay, I know

897
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: when I'm sitting there with Field and Matt Miller and

898
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Lewis and we're champions. Oh that's at that. And now

899
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: as soon as the drafts over, I'm looking, Okay, who

900
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: did I have a decent grade on that didn't get picked?

901
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: And I'm on all those guys and saying, boy, these

902
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: would be the first guys if I'm a general manager personnel,

903
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: these are the first guys I want to bring in

904
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: because these guys could be better than some of those

905
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: guys went in the fourth and sixth seventh round. Okay,

906
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: So those undrafted free agents we should We could do

907
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: a show one them after the drafts over, we could

908
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: do another show one that's undrafted free agents, aligning them

909
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: up on the board, looking at quarterbacks through through cornerbacks

910
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: and long snappers. Places, get for some punters and figure

911
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: out who those guys are that are gonna have a

912
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: chance to maybe be like that fourth fifth round pick

913
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: turned out to be and be guys are gonna really

914
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: help your roster so yeah, I'm big on the seventh round.

915
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm huge one undrafted free agents.

916
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: Last draft with mel kiper twist my arm, go ahead,

917
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: opposite of first draft. Last draft.

918
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: Happy was my final draft, right you get him out

919
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: of here, get him out of here enough. I'll come

920
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: talk to you guys. I've just talked to you guys

921
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: for the rest of my time. After they got it

922
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: fire me let me go, I go walk away. I'll

923
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: come and talk to you guys.

924
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: First draft by with mel with Field to skiing and

925
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: with Mike Greenberg. Check it out wherever you get your podcast.

926
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Just quickly here mel and we love you and we

927
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Three very quick things for me. Carson

928
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Beck your thoughts on him and his game transferring to

929
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: the NFL.

930
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: You know people are gonna say, well, maybe career backup.

931
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: We'll see you know. To me, Carson stepped up and

932
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: he's distributing to football and this is gonna be a challenge.

933
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: This is in the end of defense, like I say,

934
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: as a cohesive group, smart football players and get after

935
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: the inside. They got some edge guys. Unfortunately, Daily injured

936
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: earlier late in the year, but before the playoffs, affects

937
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: them a little bit, but watch out for pins. Like

938
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: I said, number five is a great player. I think

939
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: Beck has gotten himself into that. I think early day

940
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: three area. So maybe I know Greg McElroy is a big,

941
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: big Carson Beck guy. Greg will probably have him in

942
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: the second third round. I'm not as high on him

943
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: as as Greg has been throughout the process, but I

944
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: think you certainly helped himself.

945
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: Are you at all concerned that the draft is being

946
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: held in the city of pitch Burg?

947
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: Not at all, because I love my son in law.

948
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: My son in law and his family are from Pennsylvania,

949
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: got the Steeler fans Okay. And Steve Alex's father went

950
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: to Dukane, Okay. And he is all about to Steelers.

951
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: And you know, so I'm with the terrible towel. Myron

952
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: Cope was a great friend with the late great Myron Coke,

953
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, my great man. He was started a terrible towel. Right,

954
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: I love the Steelers. You have nothing but respect for

955
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Art Rooney Jr. Was a good friend of mine. I

956
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: have letters in there, typed that letters from Art Rooney Jr.

957
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Okay that you know from years going by. This was

958
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: back in like the eighties, and so the run I

959
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: came up to Latroe, PA for training camp art for

960
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: junior this is up. We all went up there for

961
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: training camp. Uh. So you know, nothing but respect for

962
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: the steel Organs. They love the uniform. I think I

963
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: have a problem with that. They changed it. I always

964
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: that's that's one thing to guys. Can we get away

965
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: from all these different uniforms and house can we had

966
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: the hackers were in the Packer uniforms all the time.

967
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: All we don't get We don't get one hundred and

968
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: sixty two games like that based off we only get

969
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: a select number of games. Can we keep the uniforms

970
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: the same all the time? Figure out what you love? Yeah,

971
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: if you want to go one game, that's it. You're

972
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: allow one game. Only do something different. But yeah, But

973
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, iconic uniform organization, what they've done over

974
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: the years and staying consistent. When you hire a coach,

975
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 2: you stick with them, stick with Chuck Noll, Bill Kaller,

976
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. That's the model that the Cowboys had the Steelers.

977
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: The Ravens have had that as well. So to me,

978
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: there's so much greatness with the Steeler organization. So many

979
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: phenomenal players, coaches, fan base. Now I said, I have

980
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: the battle right within our own family. Steelers Ravens. We

981
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: got our own rivalry one here. So now it's Red

982
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: Sox show. We say Steelers and Ravens is Red Sox Yankees,

983
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: and it's phenomenal. So I can't wait to be in

984
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on April twenty third, twenty fourth, and twenty fifth.

985
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: They're going to be great there that the fans are like, Noah,

986
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: I would just don't say fire Mike tom and I

987
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: don't like that. Oh like that come after mouth a couple.

988
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: There should be some unsports like conduct penalties on. Yeah,

989
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: no fire Mike Tom. Be proud of what you have.

990
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Be be appreciative, I guess appreciative of what Mike Tomlins

991
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: meant to this organization and a great man he is,

992
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: and a great football coach he is, and how he

993
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: elevated this team to playoff status that no other coach

994
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: could have.

995
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yes, all right now, final question

996
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: on the way out. Pitchers and catchers are reporting soon.

997
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Very exciting time for you. For those of you who

998
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: don't know, Melo's agreed to do a weekly baseball show

999
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: with us. I'm very excited, very excited about maybe a

1000
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: season preview. Uh, but you got to pull the bear,

1001
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Peter Alonso, give us a scattering report on your Baltimore Orioles.

1002
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: Add a lot of pieces at a lot of pieces.

1003
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Kyle Bradish is one of my favorites. And if Kyle

1004
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Bradish can get back to being the Kyle Bradish before

1005
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: the surgery, Kyle Bradish is to me. And I grew

1006
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: up with the four twenty game winners. I'd love to

1007
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: see twenty game winners. Kyle Bradish back in the day

1008
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: would have been a guy. You say he's a twenty

1009
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: game winner. They got a couple of his staff that

1010
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: could be. Pitching is the key to everything in baseball.

1011
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I hope this pitching staff can stay healthy, some of

1012
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: these guys can revert back that are all form. We've

1013
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: added pieces. Obviously you just mentioned one of them. And

1014
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Everybody talks about Valentine's Day and they

1015
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: talk about the combine workout and all this. I can't

1016
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: wait till pictures and catchup. I love the grapefruit and

1017
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: cactus li my bucket list because I've never been able

1018
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: to do it. One thing and so you noticed one,

1019
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: I have never been able to go to spring training

1020
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: one of these years. I would love And I'm not

1021
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: a traveler. Mikey knows that better day. I don't leave

1022
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: the compound. I never leave. But I would love to

1023
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: be down in spring training in Florida for a week,

1024
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: to be able to go to those spring training games

1025
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: and enjoy a week down there in March. Outs moved up,

1026
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: but it used to be March. And now you're talking

1027
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: about the season starts a little earlier this year. What

1028
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: they talking about March twenty fifth, twenty.

1029
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: Six, Yeah, March twenty fifth. Mel It's an hour north

1030
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: of my house. Get down here.

1031
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: I'll sit there and watch baseball with you all day.

1032
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1033
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: That's what that's my bucket list through If I could

1034
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: do that, spend some time with you in Florida at

1035
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: at the spring training game down there in the in

1036
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: the Great Fruit Leg would be phenomenal. That would be

1037
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: one of the be one of the best weeks of

1038
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: my life.

1039
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: It would be the best week of my life, so

1040
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: so close to the draft.

1041
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: If we have ever do that, we get every I'll

1042
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: bring him down. Mikey. You gotta be there tailor. We

1043
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: got to get the whole crew there and we can

1044
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: enjoy a week in Florida in March, maybe in the

1045
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 2: middle of March.

1046
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Done, done, Mel, You are the greatest. We appreciate it.

1047
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: First Draft pod. Check it out wherever you get your

1048
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: podcast with Mel with Peel with Mike Greenberg.

1049
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Mel. We'll do it again before

1050
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: the baseball season. This is always a highlight of body

1051
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: year with you guys. Guys are the fast, enjoyous man.

1052
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: I take care