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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh, happy Saturday morning to you. Hope everything is great

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Speaker 2: in your world. I'll tell you what. We had some

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Speaker 2: craziness in baseball last night. We will get to an

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Speaker 2: epic win in just a minute. Full menu today. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've got college football on the agenda, We've got the NBA,

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Speaker 2: We've got NFL stuff. I want to talk about the

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Speaker 2: honeymoon period for quarterbacks. It's a very very short list.

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Speaker 3: Shit ball, that is right.

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Speaker 2: We get a sham champion and the hot dog getting

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Speaker 2: contest with no Joey chest nutt.

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Speaker 3: We are backed to the gills over here.

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Speaker 2: But I want to start fellows with your neck of

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Speaker 2: the woods here Rich an epic win by the Padres

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Speaker 2: last night. And just to set it up, so the

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Speaker 2: Padres are leading heading into the ninth inning seven to two.

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Speaker 2: It's the top of the ninth for the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: What did they do? They hit a grand slam yep.

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Speaker 2: Then they hit a two run homer to take the lead.

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Speaker 2: So the Padres are down by a run. What are

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Speaker 2: they do in the bottom of the ninth Jerks far

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Speaker 2: hits a home run to tie it up and then

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Speaker 2: Manny Machado steps up and does this.

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Speaker 4: Playfield?

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Speaker 5: My Paul's into it, against it up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's how it sounded.

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Speaker 2: Compliments mister Orsilo right there, one of the best in

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Speaker 2: the business on SDPA.

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Speaker 3: That was insane.

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Speaker 2: Nine total runs in the ninth inning alone from both teams,

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Speaker 2: and that was in front of the largest crowd in

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Speaker 3: That was amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, over forty seven thousand people got to watch that,

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Speaker 6: assuming they stayed in their seats, because, like you said,

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Speaker 6: the Padres had a comfy lead heading into the ninth

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Speaker 6: and there's a lot of people I'm sure that were

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Speaker 6: turning off their televisions and tucking themselves in. You know,

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Speaker 6: maybe they got after it pretty hard the past two

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Speaker 6: days celebrating America's birthday. But the game featured in that

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Speaker 6: ninth inning a grand slam, a go ahead home run

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Speaker 6: from the d Backs, followed by that game tying blast

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Speaker 6: from Profi you were talking about, and then Manny Machado's

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Speaker 6: walk off.

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Speaker 4: That's the first.

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Speaker 6: Time in al NL history that four different players have

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Speaker 6: accomplished those four different.

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Speaker 4: Feats in the same inning in a game.

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Speaker 6: And what's amazing about baseball is it feels like, because

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Speaker 6: it's an untimed game, it gives opportunities to baseball players

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Speaker 6: that other games don't give opportunities to their players. It's like,

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Speaker 6: at one point it'll bother you. Sometimes you'll say, gosh,

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Speaker 6: these games are so long, and you know so then

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Speaker 6: they bring in the pitch clock and you know they

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Speaker 6: shorten the base pass do they make all these changes?

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Speaker 6: But then you have a night like last night where

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Speaker 6: I'm sure the fans there wish for nine more innings

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Speaker 6: of excitement the way was delivered in the ninth.

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Speaker 4: It was an unbelievable night.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure one that anybody who was there will never forget,

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Speaker 6: and certainly one of those nights that could provide a

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Speaker 6: catalyst for a team that's been kind of struggling to

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Speaker 6: find it's an identity. The Padres are scrappy. They don't

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Speaker 6: seem to quit. That's definitely been a part of their identity.

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Speaker 6: But they've been a five hundred baseball team the whole way,

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Speaker 6: up and down and up and down this season.

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Speaker 4: But last night was pretty magical.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's there's a lot of upside for

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Speaker 7: the Padres in terms of what they can accomplish in

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Speaker 7: the postseason. I've always been high on them. I think

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Speaker 7: there's a bit of a mental weakness there that they

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Speaker 7: Dodgers in a playoff series recently. I mean, I think

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Speaker 7: that's that's a feather in their cap for sure. That

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Speaker 7: was insane last night. So I watch baseball every day religiously.

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Speaker 7: I focus obviously on the first inning, but I watch

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Speaker 7: all the games. I stay up late, I watch all

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Speaker 7: the games, and actually when I watch the later parts

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Speaker 7: in the ninth inning last night, and by the way,

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Speaker 7: it was one of many other just last night was

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Speaker 7: a really weird night in baseball.

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Speaker 3: I think it's because it was a new moon.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you're into that kind of thing,

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Speaker 7: but it was just one of those When you play

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Speaker 7: every day, weird stuff tends to happen, and for some

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Speaker 7: reason last night was just one of those nights. But

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Speaker 7: you watch these meltdowns in some of these bullpens, and

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Speaker 7: it's just it makes me grateful that I actually only

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Speaker 3: That happened late, but.

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Speaker 7: This is a very exciting I mean, if you just

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Speaker 7: want to get to how I feel about the Padres

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Speaker 7: in general as a team, like I'm just kind of waiting,

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Speaker 7: I mean, they're eight and two in their last ten.

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Speaker 7: The Dodgers have kind of, you know, I would say,

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Speaker 7: nice win last night. Freddie Freeman came up clutch for them.

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Speaker 7: And I still think the Dodgers win the division. But

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Speaker 7: I mean, the way that baseball structured these days, you

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Speaker 7: don't need to win them. Look at the last two

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Speaker 7: World Series, and half the teams didn't win the division

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Speaker 7: that were in them. So I think the wild card

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Speaker 7: and the excitement around San Diego's home ballpark is going

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Speaker 7: to carry them. I do think they're going to be

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Speaker 7: a contender when we get to the end of the rainbow.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if they can get over the hump,

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Speaker 7: but I think I would say they're the third best

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Speaker 7: then I think there's an opening for that third slot

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, they got some work to do

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Speaker 2: to get there. If they could, I get it. They're

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Speaker 2: But the thing that that sparked my interest here I

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Speaker 2: by the way comment from you Rich where you're talking

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Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder what.

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Speaker 2: Fan has the best which would actually be the worst

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Speaker 3: I know the answer to this. It's the heat.

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Speaker 7: It's the heat at the shot, and they were trying

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't they.

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Speaker 7: That was the best You left an NBA Finals Game

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Speaker 7: seven and then you missed over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. I don't know how you topped that.

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Speaker 2: It would be hard to top. I think of, man,

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Speaker 2: you go back to the Dodgers with the Kirk Gibson

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Speaker 2: you could see the tailights of a lot of cars

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Speaker 2: driving away. Can you imagine being a die hard Dodgers

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Speaker 2: fan and you left early from that moment? Or I

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Speaker 2: wonder if anyone left the Patriots twenty eight to three

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Speaker 7: There nobody watching the Super Bowl in the game anyways, right,

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Speaker 7: it's all corporate rights.

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Speaker 4: Get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone from even.

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Speaker 4: A home game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely certain people who hot footed it out of there,

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Speaker 6: and they were like, gosh, you know, they it's been

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Speaker 4: This is not even this super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And and you're right, yeah, like industry people who are

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Speaker 6: just like so jaded that they're missing one of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen last night.

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Speaker 6: I don't blame by the way, I don't blame any

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Speaker 4: Or or hurling racial slurs.

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Speaker 6: You know, something awful When you buy a ticket, do

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Speaker 6: whatever you want with an including selling it. Like I don't,

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Speaker 6: I don't care. You could do whatever you want with

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Speaker 6: because I feel like it's like this little contract that

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Speaker 6: yourself as a fan and the team, and you know,

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Speaker 6: do what you want with it. But like from the

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Speaker 6: you're a season ticket holder, especially if you're a season

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Speaker 6: where they've done this to you before.

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Speaker 4: Now, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 6: They've had a couple of like really majestic walkoffs at home.

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Speaker 6: So a close game going into the bottom of the

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Speaker 6: ninth inning you ought to stick around for. But but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't blame anybody for getting out of there.

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Speaker 4: It's just one of those things.

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Speaker 6: Where immediate regret because this was a situation where your

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Speaker 6: your star player, Manny Machado who closes the casket on

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Speaker 6: September and we're tallying, you know, the season win total.

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Speaker 6: Are we gonna remember this night?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe we will, but on a.

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Speaker 6: Random July fifth, something special happen, if it's a turning point,

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Speaker 4: But certainly it.

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Speaker 6: Helps when it's a player like Profar, who got named

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Speaker 6: to his first ever All Star Game, and he was

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Speaker 4: He was a guy who they just signed for a

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Speaker 6: Real quick because they were desperate for an outfielder and

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Speaker 6: it was like musical chairs. The music stopped and there

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Speaker 6: was nobody left to really take a seat for them,

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Speaker 6: and they signed him because he had a history with

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That and that's a good start. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: it was his first All Star Game.

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Speaker 7: And how about that the game's going to be played

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Speaker 7: in Texas at the Rangers Ballpark, which is the team

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Speaker 7: that drafted him. Right, that's a great story.

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Speaker 3: Actually I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I did not know he got the name of the

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Speaker 7: All Star team and it was his first one. That

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Speaker 7: that's a really good, feel good story for Jerrickson Profar. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I really do like this Padres team a lot, guys,

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Speaker 7: And I think.

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Speaker 3: You made a really.

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Speaker 7: Good point, Rich When we look back on the season,

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Speaker 7: that's the beauty and maybe the beast of baseball is

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Speaker 7: it's one game out of one sixty two. It was

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Speaker 7: probably of the two and thirty games played in the

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Speaker 7: baseball season this year across all the teams, that might

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Speaker 7: have been the best game of the year. And at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, it's one of one sixty

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Speaker 7: that that's your mindset. Well, we're going right back to

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Speaker 7: the ballpark today and today's game we can win one

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Speaker 3: The obviously have to win games.

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Speaker 7: Too, But I think the Orioles were a good example

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Speaker 3: This unbelievable season, historic and then got swept out of

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Speaker 7: And San Diego is the same thing. Very volatile team.

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Speaker 3: They'll win ten in a row, lose ten in a row, Like,

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Speaker 3: Man uh Rich is far more forgiving than I am. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to hear your story about why you.

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Speaker 4: Don't like you don't like selling things.

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Speaker 2: No, if you sell your tickets, there are certain times

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Speaker 3: But if you are at the game.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say you were a Padres fan last night.

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Speaker 3: Why are you there? Go away, get out of there.

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Speaker 4: You don't belong.

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Speaker 2: Have some passion for what you're doing. And these people

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Speaker 3: Why are you there?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: I never understand those people. And I hope I hope

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Speaker 3: And oh they have a little contract. They can do

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be there in the first place if you're

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Speaker 4: Well, I have a.

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Speaker 6: Very different relationship with fans because for a long time

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Speaker 4: Not matter to me.

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Speaker 6: And you're right, like, there are some of those fans

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Speaker 4: Know, the ah, yeah, this team is lousy.

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Speaker 6: Another you know, come from behind victory for the opponent.

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Speaker 4: I'm out of here, you know, And it's like, you know, where,

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Speaker 4: where's where's the guts in that? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: If you're going to desire that for the team you're

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Speaker 4: What about a.

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Speaker 6: Little intestinal fortitude from you? What about a little bit

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Speaker 6: Where is that when we're losing? When we when we

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Speaker 6: you know, we catch a bad ending, our bullpen melts

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Speaker 6: I don't play for the pad Dres, but you know,

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Speaker 6: You get the deal, Like, you know, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: You know, there is a little bit of a feeling

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Speaker 2: Real fast this conversation, here's the thing, it reminds me

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Speaker 3: There there were hardly any people left in the.

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Speaker 2: Building and you're just like, wow, this is a Notre

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Speaker 3: But my mom and I stayed there the whole time.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite memories, not just relating to

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Speaker 2: But still it's a great, great memory. Here's my question

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Speaker 2: for anybody who leaves early. What great memory occurred once

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Speaker 3: What happened? Huh? Did you go to the convenience store

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Speaker 3: and run into dua lipa and you got a date

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: What great story came from leaving early? What name one?

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Speaker 2: I want to hear one, because if you leave early,

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Speaker 2: you're probably just gonna beat traffic and go home and

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Speaker 3: Like wan, what's great about that?

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Speaker 7: If like an asteroid hits the stadium and you left

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Speaker 7: and you remember and you.

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Speaker 3: Did get killed in the blotte?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm about the only positive I think where you

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Speaker 3: I am glad I left that game early. Exactly right?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 3: All right, we are firing up today off and running.

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Speaker 2: So the hot dog eating contest on the fourth of July, Well,

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Speaker 2: normally that's all you have to say, is the hot

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Speaker 2: dog eating contest? We all know it's the Nathan's Hot

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Speaker 2: Dog Eating Contest, but not the same thing this year.

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Speaker 2: No Joey Chestnut. So this sham champion, Patrick Berte, what

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Speaker 2: is it? Bertletti? Patrick Bertletti? He ate fifty eight hot dogs,

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Speaker 2: which is been pretty impressive in ten minutes. Then Joey

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Speaker 2: Jaw's Chestnut huh, who signed with the rival company, who

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Speaker 2: was barred from competing in the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest.

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Speaker 2: This year, he goes and does his little contest on

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Speaker 2: this little side street, this side state. He ate fifty

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Speaker 2: seven hot dog and about half the time. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: the champion of the Nathan's contest had eight fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Joey chestnutt eight fifty seven and about half the time.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy to me, but it gets me thinking of

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Speaker 2: sham champions throughout the years in non hot dog eating contests,

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Speaker 2: and you know, like the twenty nineteen Raptors, they would

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Speaker 2: be one of those teams where the Warriors were all

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Speaker 2: banged up. KD played only twelve minutes of that series.

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Speaker 2: Clay missed Game three, had his acl torn in Game six.

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Speaker 2: Like the Kawhi Leonard, Toronto Raptors of twenty nineteen one

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Speaker 2: of your all time great sham champions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually kind of agree with you.

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Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, every champion in my mind,

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Speaker 6: like you know, the Lakers in the Bubble, the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: them a hard time for those championships. You know, they

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Speaker 6: call the Lakers won the Disney Championship because they played

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Speaker 6: a Disney world, you know, like the Arlington Bubble in

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Speaker 6: Major League Baseball for the Dodgers. That Raptor's victory because

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Speaker 6: like you mentioned how banged up the Warriors were. But look,

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Speaker 6: you know, you make it all the way there, you

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Speaker 6: win the darn thing.

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Speaker 4: You earn the trophy.

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Speaker 6: However, there are certain championships that feel like you earn

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Speaker 6: him a little bit more like that. We were just

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Speaker 6: referencing the comeback for the Patriots over the Falcons, like

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Speaker 6: they earned that one, you know, I mean, I understand

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Speaker 6: they had a lot of rings during that time, but

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Speaker 6: they definitely earned that one.

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Speaker 4: That one though, with the Raptors, the.

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Speaker 6: Part of it that I disliked the most, and I'm

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Speaker 6: a Kawhi Leonard fan outside of one aspect of his game.

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Speaker 6: The guy kind of became the face of load management.

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Speaker 6: So even though I was rooting for the player, I

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Speaker 6: wasn't rooting for him to have career success like that,

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Speaker 6: because unfortunately, attached to that are going to be other

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Speaker 6: players who say, yeah, I want to do it the

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Speaker 6: way Kawhi did, where I play like a third of

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Speaker 6: the season every year and I'm a finals MVP a

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Speaker 6: couple of times throughout the course of my career. You

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Speaker 6: know it, Just the load management thing I think really

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Speaker 6: during his time leaving the Spurs and since then and

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Speaker 6: winning a championship on his own after leaving San Antonio

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Speaker 6: with the Toronto Raptors, I think only reinforced Hey, everybody

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Speaker 6: out there, you really got to rest your body and

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Speaker 7: I think it's hard for me to call a championship

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Speaker 7: obviously that championship series for the Raptors facing a Benga

443
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 7: Boyers team was tough, but then go look at the

444
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 7: game seven in the series against the Sixers and it's like,

445
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 7: all right, they kind of earn that, right, Like that

446
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 7: was about as good of a series as you're gonna see,

447
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 7: and the Sixers were really good that year. So I

448
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 7: struggle in the in the series sports where yeah, maybe

449
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 7: one of the series and maybe the championship series was

450
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 7: a bit of a cupcake, but the road to that championship,

451
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 7: because about long the season is, was just so daunting.

452
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 7: I'll give you one that I was looking up this

453
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 7: morning that stood out because it's always kind of one

454
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 7: of those teams that I'm like, how did they win

455
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 7: a championship in this millennium or in the last one

456
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 7: hundred years?

457
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: And that was.

458
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 7: BYU football back in eighty four, which was like one

459
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 7: of the softest championships in like college football history. They

460
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 7: only beat one ranked team the whole season. It was Pittsburgh,

461
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 7: and they just weren't a very good team, but they

462
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 7: kind of the way the college football was structured back then,

463
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 7: it wasn't as hard to kind of get through the

464
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 7: gauntlet if you had an easy schedule and you can

465
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 7: go undefeated and you had any name recognition, and that's

466
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 7: what BYU was back in the eighties. So, for example,

467
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 7: I don't think you'll ever see by You win another

468
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 7: national championship of COG football, like ever ever ever happen again.

469
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 7: So that's one of those like one offs that just

470
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 7: like the Joey Chess nutting, like you're never gonna really

471
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 7: think about BYU and that same ilk ever again.

472
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: You're never gonna think of whoever.

473
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 7: Won the hot dog eating contest as like the greatest

474
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 7: hot dog eating champion of all.

475
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: Time, because we all know it's Joey.

476
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 7: The whole Chestnut story is crazy.

477
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. Why they ban.

478
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 7: Him and just the whole situation leading up to it,

479
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 7: Like it's just it's money and it's politics, and it's

480
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 7: everything that's wrong with sports, but it's part of sports.

481
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I think it's actually easier to have a sham champion

482
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: in a sport where you're playing a series, right, Like

483
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: if you're playing a best of seven series and you're

484
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: adding Kevin Durant to a seventy three win Warriors team,

485
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: right and he plays twelve minutes of an entire series

486
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: against the Raptors, I think it's much easier to have

487
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: a sham champion in a series when one of the

488
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: best players of all time is gone for nearly the

489
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: entire series that matters a ton, so like literally, the

490
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: definition of sham is a thing that is not what

491
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: it's purported to be. And I think that's what the

492
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Raptors are. Where if you look at champions

493
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: of the past and it's like they want it all,

494
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: they're the champions, and it's like there is a lot

495
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: more to it with the nineteen Raptors than just they

496
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: want it all. That's why, hey, listen, man, I get it.

497
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 2: Injuries happen. Injuries are a part of sports. I totally

498
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: understand that. I'm not saying every champion who benefited from

499
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: their opponent being banged up is a sham champion. But

500
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: I have a special category for the twenty nineteen NBA

501
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: Finals because the Raptors would have gotten smoked if the

502
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: Warriors are at full strength. It was a hot knife

503
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: through butter against Lebron's Cavs teams with Kevin Durant on

504
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: that squad, and I have no doubt in my mind

505
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: none that the Warriors would have won a championship had

506
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: they been not even at full strength, at better strength

507
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: health wise, and they weren't some other sham champions.

508
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: The twenty seventeen Astros would be on that list.

509
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 7: I was hanging on cand Yeah, that one, that one

510
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 7: I think is the biggest sham of them all because

511
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 7: that one they really cheated.

512
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: That's up there, and not a champion, but a sham

513
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: that they even got to the super Bowl. That would

514
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: be the twenty eighteen Rams where it was an obvious

515
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: pass interference call, no call, They make it there, then

516
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: they lose in the Super Bowl thirteen to three to

517
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

518
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: That was the worst super Bowl in my lifetime. It

519
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: was brutal.

520
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if that's Drew Brees and who'd at

521
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: That's who should have been And how crazy is that?

522
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: That Super Bowl was in February of twenty nineteen, and

523
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: then a few months later that was the whole Raptors thing.

524
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: We had sham on top of sham in twenty nineteen.

525
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 6: I will say this though, it is this is coming

526
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: from somebody who was on the second place team, and

527
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 6: that's the best finish I ever had in.

528
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 4: A football season.

529
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 6: When the Patriots in twenty twelve we lost to the

530
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 6: New York Giants in Indianapolis Super Bowl.

531
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: What was that forty six? Forty six? I believe. We

532
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: go out there to Indianapolis.

533
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 6: And what's interesting about a season when you reach the playoffs,

534
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 6: it does feel like a whole new season starts and

535
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 6: you start playing through your schedule and you realize, oh,

536
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 6: my gosh, we were only two games away from an

537
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 6: AFC Championship game, like, and then you're there and you're

538
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 6: like pinching yourself. You're like, oh, this is happening, Like

539
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 6: we're about to we're about to potentially go to the

540
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 6: super Bowl, and we end up going off of a

541
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: field goal attempt by the Ravens, basically, and the confetti

542
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 6: is falling and you realize that you've already won a trophy.

543
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: You know you've won the conference.

544
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 6: You're heading to Indianapolis for the biggest game of your life,

545
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 6: of your career, And I just I can't express to

546
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 6: anybody actually how exhausting it is to make it just

547
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 6: that far. That nobody remembers the Super Bowl losers, nobody

548
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: remembers the World Series losers, nobody really talks about.

549
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: The NBA Finals losers.

550
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 6: But I can promise you it took a hell of

551
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 6: a lot of effort to get there. And so when

552
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 6: you see a year like Philadelphia have last year after

553
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 6: a year just going to the Super Bowl and losing, like,

554
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 6: it's understandable that they had some regression because it's so

555
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 6: tough to get there and there's so much more sacrifice

556
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 6: that goes into a sea in when you fight your

557
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: way to the last game and then.

558
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 4: All of a sudden you lose it.

559
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: It takes so much to do it, and having that

560
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 6: realization like, oh my god, we were there and we

561
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 6: were in that football game and we lost it, it

562
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 6: is the most deflating feeling on the planet. So it's

563
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: hard for me to say that there are sham champions.

564
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 6: I guess outside of cheaters, you know, where it's it's

565
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: obvious that they really did something that broke the rules

566
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: to earn a championship. Outside of that, because it's just

567
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 6: so difficult to even get to a championship series or

568
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: a championship game.

569
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 7: I love that explanation for two reasons. First, selfishly, it

570
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 7: confirms my opinion about teams that lose in the championship

571
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 7: round or series or game and then make it back

572
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: the next year. They're not losing that series or game.

573
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 7: And the ideal example is what happened with the Panthers

574
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 7: this year in the Stanley Cup. And also I remember

575
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 7: this opinion started back in twenty sixteen when the Royals

576
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 7: won the World Series after they lost to the Giants

577
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 7: the year prior. Like those, that was a formative gambling

578
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 7: moment for me where I had a light bulb go

579
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 7: off and I said, when a team makes it back

580
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 7: to whatever championship round after losing the prior year, do

581
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: not fade them.

582
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: They are not losing.

583
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 7: Because what Rich, the feeling that Rich just described is

584
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 7: probably that fire that burns in every player's gut after

585
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 7: they lose a Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, championship, whatever, and

586
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 7: then make it back. Right Like, Rich, if you were

587
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 7: on the Patriots the name, I don't know if you

588
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 7: were on them the following year, but if you were

589
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 7: on the team that made it back to the Super

590
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 7: Bowl the next time they made it back, you weren't

591
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 7: losing that game, like cause it's just you just or

592
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 7: your brain just just goes into complete ninja mode. Yeah,

593
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 7: that's I. I and I I kind of agree with

594
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 7: your with with the sham thing. Like I, championships are

595
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 7: so hard and there's so many more moments than just

596
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 7: the one series that led to it, like, yes, that

597
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 7: was what we all remember is the final moment, the

598
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 7: final game, the final series. But those NBA postseasons to

599
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 7: go back to, specifically the Raptors, I mean, they're like

600
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 7: a month and a half long. Like it's it's a

601
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 7: really long journey. So it's really hard to knock the

602
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 7: Raptors steps along the way. Maybe the last step was

603
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 7: a really easy one, and it should be the hardest step.

604
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: And that's how we would prefer as sports fans.

605
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 7: It's a hard season and you get to the championship

606
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 7: series and it's just easy. Like I remember losing money

607
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 7: on the.

608
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: On the Warriors.

609
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 7: I thought to myself, there's no way the Warriors are

610
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 7: gonna lose this and they're gonna come back. They're gonna

611
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 7: I think they lost it in six, right, Like they're

612
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 7: gonna come back, They're gonna win Game.

613
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: Six, They're gonna win this series.

614
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Nope, Nope.

615
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: They had nothing left in the tank.

616
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 7: And it's kind of like the optimist passive like passive

617
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 7: mister team, like do you want to look glass half

618
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 7: full like this team won the title, or do you

619
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 7: want to look glass half empty this team lost the title.

620
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 7: They're a sham get him out like it's it's kind

621
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 7: of a it's kind of a dichotomy.

622
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: I would say, you guys are so nice. I know

623
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: we're soft.

624
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 7: We're soft, Brian, you are the hardened metal.

625
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: And we're the softest, big softies, big softies over here.

626
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Like we just saw the Celtics and the Mavericks in

627
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: the finals. If the MAVs won the finals because Tatum

628
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 2: was out and Jalen Brown was out and uh wolper

629
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: Zingis will count him because he was kind of out

630
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: right and Derek White gets banged up, it's like, okay,

631
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: astisk City.

632
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: In my mind, some.

633
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: People are like, but they beat the Timberwolves and they

634
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: they beat the okac and they had this really hard path.

635
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: That's all true, that's absolutely all true.

636
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: But if you get a great assist, like an all

637
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: time assist due to the injury Bud, I'm gonna count

638
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: that against that, right it is, it does, But it

639
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: was a different category with the twenty nineteen Warriors.

640
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: Just a different category in my mind.

641
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: But hey, I think I'm in the minority on this

642
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: one because everyone wants to be.

643
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Like they're the champs. They're unbelievable.

644
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Now, Astro City with Kawhi and his band of merriment

645
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: over there, but.

646
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: I very chatty over it. We got Isaac clowan card.

647
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: What's going on?

648
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: I love?

649
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 10: Good morning fellas, and let's start in Major League Baseball

650
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 10: A big performance at Dodger Stadium last night by Will Smith.

651
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 10: Oh hold on, guys, I'm getting a text messager.

652
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: Dond's from Rich Isaac.

653
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 10: Don't you think you should be leading with the Chargers

654
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 10: game fist emoji? Chargers game autocorrect? Oh, Padres game you men's.

655
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you do it? I love?

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 6: Maybe you just here, just take your jabs at the

657
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: at the San Diego fan harp broken over the Chargers.

658
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 10: Still Freudian slip on my shard. Sure, maybe in the future,

659
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 10: instead of threatening me with a fist emoji, you can

660
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 10: offer a free barbecue, because I will gladly do it

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Speaker 10: for you, Rich. Indeed, we will lead with the exploits

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Speaker 10: of Petco Park. Last night, before a record Petco Park

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Speaker 10: crowd of forty seven seventy one, Padres entered the bottom

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Speaker 10: of the ninth inning trailing the Arizona Diamondbacks eight to seven.

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Speaker 10: Jerkson Profar the game tying home run to lead off

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Speaker 10: the bottom of the ninth inning, and then later Manny

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Speaker 10: Machado came to the plate with one on. Here's Don

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Speaker 10: Orcillo with the call.

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Speaker 4: Black Feld whips.

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Speaker 8: Against shut up.

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Speaker 10: I gotta tell you, fellas, that was a great call,

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Speaker 10: wasn't it by don Or Sillo.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the best.

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Speaker 6: He's got some amazing lines in some amazing moments so far.

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Speaker 4: With the Socks that he was with the Red Sox

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Speaker 4: for a while and then the Padres since then.

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Speaker 10: I've never heard a line by that announcer, but that's

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Speaker 10: a great line. A home run going into the stands

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Speaker 10: into a sea of San Diegans. Just another great element

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Speaker 10: of that call, including the excitement by Don Orcillo the

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Speaker 10: Dodgers getting to them. Will Smith I three home runs

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Speaker 10: and an eight to five with over the Milwaukee Brewers.

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Speaker 10: The Baltimore Orioles a three to two victory at Oakland.

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Speaker 10: The Orioles have won seven of their last night in

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Speaker 10: the WNBA. On Friday night, Chicago Sky rookie Angel Reese

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Speaker 10: added to her WNBA record with her twelfth consecutive double

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Speaker 10: double in an eighty eight eighty four win at Seattle.

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Speaker 10: Reef finished with a career high twenty seven points and

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Speaker 10: ten rebounds, and coming up at noon Eastern time today

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Speaker 10: the quarterfinal round of Euro twenty twenty four as England

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Speaker 10: takes on Switzerland just over two hours from now, gentlemen,

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Speaker 10: back to you, thank lo Hey.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast would be going up.

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. All right, Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith has been hard at work. He's got a

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Speaker 2: parlay platter for you. I don't even look. He'll oftentimes

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Speaker 2: text us or email us. I don't even like to look.

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Speaker 2: I like to be surprised in the moment. Are we

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Speaker 2: going soccer here today? Are we going soccer baseball hybrid?

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Speaker 2: Are we working in the WNBA?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll all find out together. That's on

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Speaker 3: the way.

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Speaker 2: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know that is on the way.

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Speaker 2: The platter du jure. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. We've got no time to waste.

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Speaker 3: Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out, ar Lad Letter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jared Smith, you've been hard at work. What do

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Speaker 3: you have for us today?

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Speaker 7: Well, let's go to the euro And I know we're

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Speaker 7: kind of up against it with soccer because we only

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Speaker 7: have a real few more matches left here.

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Speaker 4: But I love this tournament.

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Speaker 7: I think it's I mean, have you been watching the

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Speaker 7: Copa too last night with Canada and Advancing?

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Speaker 4: Like it?

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Speaker 7: Just the passion for these European nations. And of course

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Speaker 7: in Copa America's the South American North American countries competing

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Speaker 7: for supremacy.

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Speaker 3: It's just like to me, it's it's just my favorite event.

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Speaker 3: I love the world soccer event.

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Speaker 7: So we'll go to the quarterfinal this afternoon noon Pacific

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Speaker 7: three Eastern between Netherlands and Turkey, and.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do a three team or a three leg

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Speaker 3: same game parlay.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna start in the corners market and I know

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Speaker 7: it's hard sometimes there's only a couple two three goals

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Speaker 7: in a match. I'm not no goals in a match

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Speaker 7: like there was in the France Portugal match yesterday. But

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Speaker 7: we're gonna look at the corners market. Corner kicks is

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Speaker 7: kind of an alternative statistic that I've been handicapping lately

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Speaker 7: that you can put in these same game parlays. So

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Speaker 7: we're gonna go over nine and a half total corners

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Speaker 7: in the Netherlands Turkey match. Turkey allowed ten corners in

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Speaker 7: the last match against Austria. Netherlands had thirteen in their

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Speaker 7: win over Romania a few days ago.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go over to and a half total goals.

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Speaker 7: I know scoring goals is hard, and I know just

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Speaker 7: goals in general is a soccer seems to be devoid

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Speaker 7: of them in some of these major tournaments. But I

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Speaker 7: think this match is going to be a goal match.

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Speaker 7: The overs actually four to oher and Turkey's matches so

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Speaker 7: far in this tournament, three and one for Netherlands. The

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Speaker 7: only under was a nil nil draw against France. And

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Speaker 7: if you've been watching France, I think they're like the

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Speaker 7: best defense I've seen. One of my friends compared them

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Speaker 7: to be eighty five Bears defense. I know, I know,

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Speaker 7: you want to go midway the Monsters of France the

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Speaker 7: best defense in history of the European Soccer tournament.

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Speaker 4: So we'll go over two and a half here.

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Speaker 7: I think Netherlands is a really attacking side in Turkey's

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Speaker 7: defensive minded hasn't really been great so and Netherland's on

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Speaker 7: the money line, I think this is a very undervalue team.

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Speaker 7: These teams played twice in the euro qualifying back in

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Speaker 7: twenty one, and I know that's like, oh three years ago,

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Speaker 7: but a lot of these guys, especially for Turkey, actually

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Speaker 7: a very older team, very drilled, and so it was

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Speaker 7: pretty much.

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Speaker 3: The same lineup for Turkey.

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Speaker 7: And the last time these two teams played back in

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Speaker 7: those qualifyings, Netherlands won six to one and four to two.

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Speaker 7: So maybe something about the Dutch style just doesn't really

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Speaker 7: quite suit what Turkey tries to do defensively. So we'll

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Speaker 7: go over nine and a half total corners over two

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Speaker 7: and a half goals and the Netherlands on the money line.

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Speaker 7: That is plus two fifty over at that MGM, wow, Wow.

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Speaker 6: Which sport would you say that you kind of pop into,

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Speaker 6: you know, like for example, I know around the majors,

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Speaker 6: you get you know your your state, you brush up

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Speaker 6: on you know golfers. Yeah, during the Euro and during

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Speaker 6: the World Cup you brush up on your soccer. I

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Speaker 6: mean we talked about this last week, this one. This

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Speaker 6: went to the group chat for us the Tour de France.

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Speaker 7: Like, what.

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Speaker 6: What sport when you dat out there and you study hard,

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Speaker 6: is most rewarding when you hit on That's a really

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Speaker 6: good question.

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Speaker 7: So I think over time and you kind of I

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Speaker 7: developed kind of an internal clock with this stuff. So

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Speaker 7: it's kind of like you know the event's coming and

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Speaker 7: you have to prepare almost like an exam, Right, you

789
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Speaker 7: get your itinerary before the college semester starts, and you

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Speaker 7: know when the events are happening that you need to

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Speaker 7: study up for every summer or every other or every

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Speaker 7: two summers. Right it's the Euro or excuse me, you

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Speaker 7: get the Euro and you get the World Cup. So

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Speaker 7: it's like an alternating every two years. I think that

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Speaker 7: is a big one in the summertime. And then the

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Speaker 7: golf majors, like you know, you know, right after the

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Speaker 7: NCAA tournament, I know, gearing up for the Masters. Like

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Speaker 7: it's kind of like an internal clock that just kind

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Speaker 7: of wakes up when it's time to start studying go.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I like the research that you did, especially on the

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Speaker 2: corners just becoming a thing. Yeah, and the thing and

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Speaker 2: Turkey style is just so aggressive. I know these goals

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Speaker 2: have been at a premium and a lot of matches,

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Speaker 2: but I could see it going over today.

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Speaker 3: I don't know on the Netherlands final one that would

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Speaker 3: hit the over. That'd be great for your parlay. Right

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Speaker 3: there you go? Yeah, absolutely, all right, come it up next.

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Speaker 2: Oh, prepare for our producer Bo Benson to hate this

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Speaker 2: next topic. What do Leem Neeson and the movie Taken

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Speaker 2: have to do with these two teams? We will let

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Speaker 2: you know here in just a minute. It is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Happy Saturday

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Speaker 2: to you. So it became official this week, fellas, Texas

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Speaker 2: and Oklahoma official members of the SEC.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, this league year. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, so we look at college football here,

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: so you leave the Big twelve, you go to the SEC,

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Speaker 2: and it just reminds me of the movie Taken. Now,

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Speaker 2: this line isn't from Leam Neison the actor, but the

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Speaker 2: line is said to Leam Neison, and I think it

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Speaker 2: applies to both Texas and Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: It's this luck, good luck, good luck, good luck.

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Speaker 2: Navigating through that over there. And would you just start

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Speaker 2: looking at their schedules for this year. I mean Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: is up up against it, like you look at it.

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Speaker 2: Just as a gauge of where these teams might be

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Speaker 2: this year is look at their record from last season. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is college football, there's a lot of turnover. A

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Speaker 2: team that had a good record could have a much

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Speaker 2: lesser one, and vice versa. But just as a gauge

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Speaker 2: of where this schedule might be for Oklahoma, you play

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Speaker 2: Tennessee who won nine games last year. You play at

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Speaker 2: LSU who won ten games. You're at Old miss and

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Speaker 2: at Missouri they both won eleven games. And oh, you

836
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Speaker 2: get Texas at a neutral site, and then you get Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Both those teams won twelve games.

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Speaker 8: That's what you have on this.

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Speaker 3: Schedule for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: And it's a little bit more manageable for Texas, but

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Speaker 2: they're still at Michigan the Oklahoma game, and they pick

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Speaker 2: up Georgia. And I just looked, not necessarily in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, but long term, to go from being a

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Speaker 2: big fish in a small, big twelve pond, it's the

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Speaker 2: opposite they are small fish in the big sea known

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Speaker 2: as the SEC.

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Speaker 3: I just think both teams are.

848
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Speaker 2: Gonna have a hell of a time being not not

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Speaker 2: just like viable in the conference, but excelling navigating through

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Speaker 2: the SEC and then doing damage come playoff time.

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Speaker 3: It's much more uphill now that they're in the SEC.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I completely agree. And here's why.

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Speaker 6: For as many of these SEC teams who you can

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00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 6: make the argument, well, they got to prepare for a

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00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 6: team that they're not used to seeing on their conference schedule.

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Speaker 6: That's true, but imagine that being every single week for you, Like,

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00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 6: that's what the deal is going to be for Texas

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Speaker 6: and for Oklahoma, the same way it's gonna be for

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Speaker 6: USC and UCLA when they.

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Speaker 4: Joined the Big Ten or as a part of the

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Speaker 4: Big Ten, I should say.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's one of those things where when

863
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Speaker 6: you're playing and I remember, by the time I was

864
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Speaker 6: a fifth year senior, for example, right, so I red

865
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Speaker 6: shirted my my freshman year at Penn State, and then

866
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Speaker 6: I had I guess something like thirty starts under my

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Speaker 6: belt by the time I got to my senior year,

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Speaker 6: my fifth fall on campus at Penn State. Now, don't

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00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 6: get me wrong, Like you're not used to every single

870
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Speaker 6: road venue that you're going to play in, because you

871
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Speaker 6: you haven't played in every single conference road venue.

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Speaker 4: But you're used to the to the scouting report. You're

873
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 4: used to the players who you're gonna face.

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Speaker 6: A lot of the players you face, like you know,

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Speaker 6: I not everybody's a four year letterman, but there are

876
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 6: a lot of three year letterman. There's a lot of

877
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 6: two year letterman. You get used to seeing the same

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Speaker 6: faces on the scouting report. Oh that quarterback likes to

879
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 6: do this. Oh that defensive end he's got this one

880
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 6: spin move. I really got to look out for.

881
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 4: You know. Oh, this running back, he's a bowling ball.

882
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 6: We gotta we gotta bow up this week because he's

883
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 6: a handful even though he's he's there their second string

884
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 6: running back, Like, oh my gosh, when he get if

885
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 6: you let them get going on the inside gap run,

886
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: guess what, it's gonna be a steady dose of that.

887
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 6: You have none of those little scouting report things available

888
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 6: to you from from.

889
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: The feel of the game.

890
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could find out a lot about teams on film,

891
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 6: but it's very different when you have experience playing against

892
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 6: these players. Coaching against these players, and that's a benefit

893
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 6: that Texas and Oklahoma do not have in the SEC.

894
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree.

895
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 7: I think the piggyback for me off that And this

896
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: is again rudimentary experience. I don't quite have Rich's experience

897
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 7: in the Big Ten. But when I was working for

898
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 7: Florida Atlantic and we moved from the Sun Belt to

899
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 7: the American and the cities that you travel to are

900
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 7: just incredibly different.

901
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

902
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 7: I mean, you're talking about going from the Big twelve,

903
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 7: which is, you know, pretty much in the center of

904
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 7: the country, and you know, you get a lot of Texas,

905
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 7: you get a lot of Oklahoma. Iowa was in there,

906
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 7: and now you're traveling to a brand new city, new hotels,

907
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 7: new routine to get I remember when we went to

908
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 7: University of Louisiana Monroe, Monroe, Louisiana, and the team had

909
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 7: already been there multiple times because they had you know,

910
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 7: it was my first year with the school, and I

911
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: remember stepping foot in Louisiana in Monroe, and I'm like,

912
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 7: where are we but like they already knew, all right, well,

913
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 7: here's where the hotel is and this is how far

914
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 7: it takes to get to the stadium, like, all of

915
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 7: that routine is all different now. And then you throw

916
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 7: in the fact that the new teams in the SEC

917
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 7: have really struggled, and they've struggled historically. For example, Arkansas

918
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 7: South Carolina, which was the first expansion in ninety two,

919
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 7: They've yet to win an SEC title in football, it's

920
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 7: been thirty two years. Missouri and A and M much

921
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 7: shorter time, twelve years. Obviously, neither of those teams have

922
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 7: won an SEC title. I think Missouri has been once

923
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 7: to the championship game but never have raised the trophy.

924
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 7: It's just hard. It's just it's hard when you take

925
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 7: kids and coaches that are creatures of habit and routine

926
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 7: and you upheave the entire routine. So do I think

927
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 7: Alabama or excuse me, do I think Texas and Oklahoma

928
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 7: will perform better than Missouri and A and M, which

929
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 7: were the most recent additions to see. Yes, I think

930
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 7: the infrastructures are better, but I think there's gonna be

931
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 7: a learning curve, no doubt.

932
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Also. It's I don't want to

933
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: make the SEC sound like it's bulletproof or anything, but

934
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: the amount of NFL talent that comes from that conference

935
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: is indisputable, Like these aren't opinions, they're facts, Like they're

936
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: routinely leading and sometimes lapping the field in terms of

937
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: NFL talent, And I think that's what becomes difficult as well.

938
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: We can mention the top end teams. We can mention

939
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: the teams that have great records like Georgia or Alabama

940
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: or those type of schools, but I think if you

941
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: look at Texas and the last four games of their schedule,

942
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be like a who's who. But when

943
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: you're going up against NFL talent on a consistent basis,

944
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: that's where it becomes difficult as well. When you're closing

945
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: out with Florida at Arkansas, Kentucky at Texas, A and M. Individually,

946
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: maybe none of those teams make you go, oh gosh,

947
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a tough game, but collectively, when you're

948
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: going up against that, that's where it really gets tough.

949
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: It's the depth of the conference.

950
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: And again, I don't want to make it sound like

951
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: it's bulletproof, but that is incredibly challenging to work through that.

952
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: But I think that listen, all three of us are

953
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: pretty much on the same page. And I think to

954
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: give the devil's advocate other side of the coin, our

955
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: trusted producer Bo Benson, who has been very vocal about

956
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: this issue off the air. I think we have to

957
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: hear from Bo Benson here on this one. What do

958
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: you think about this with Oklahoma and Texas joining the

959
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: big boys in the SEC?

960
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 11: I mean, I understand that it's going to be difficult

961
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 11: and different. I just feel like the national discussion has

962
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 11: been like, well, Oklahoma's going to struggle and they are,

963
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 11: like their schedule this year sucks, like that's a brutal

964
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 11: welcome to the SEC. But they're also like historically a

965
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 11: top three football program like they have, there's no reason

966
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 11: to believe that Oklahoma won't succeed. But on the other side,

967
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 11: like we're talking about Texas, like, oh, it's you know,

968
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 11: it's Texas. They're gonna be fine. They couldn't win the

969
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 11: Big Twelve. Like ever they won the Big Twelve like twice,

970
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 11: and one of those times was because you know, they

971
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 11: got an extra second that they really should not have gotten,

972
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 11: like they were good last year, but like nothing about

973
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 11: Texas has been consistent, Like I would be unsurprised if

974
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 11: Texas winning the SEC next year and had like another

975
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 11: classic five win Texas season after we spend an entire

976
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 11: offseason talking about how good they are.

977
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: So it's just it's weird.

978
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 11: I I don't understand why Texas gets the benefit of

979
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 11: the doubt but Oklahoma does not.

980
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 6: But well that's where I am. I'm on your side

981
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 6: of this debate as well. I think Texas is going

982
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 6: to struggle too, I really do. I think both of

983
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 6: these teams. Listen, I don't know what the numbers are.

984
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 6: I don't know if we have numbers yet at Vegas

985
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 6: on season win totals, but I'd be willing to take

986
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 6: the under on both of these teams, just just based

987
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 6: on the concept. You know, I was only talking about

988
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 6: the players and the scouting reports and the feel for

989
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 6: the stadiums, like the on the field stuff, but all

990
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 6: the off the field stuff, like you know, the questions

991
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 6: you're gonna get asked, you know, the interview questions. It's

992
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 6: constant reminding. It almost becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Hey,

993
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 6: you guys are off to a one and two start

994
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 6: this season. Do you think it's because you're playing against

995
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 6: a new conference? And it's like, yeah, I don't know. Probably,

996
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 6: I mean leave me alone, like I've got to study

997
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 6: for all these classes.

998
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: I gotta do this, gotta do that. And now we're

999
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: traveling to these far these these these.

1000
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 6: Foreign stadiums to us like some of these kids, I've

1001
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 6: never played in any of these stadiums.

1002
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: Or these cities.

1003
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 6: The travels different, everything's different, and you're going to be

1004
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 6: dealing with these types of questions and these types of

1005
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 6: emotions all season long. It's going to be a rough

1006
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 6: ride for both the Sooners and the Longhorns. I promise

1007
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 6: you it's not going to be if either of these

1008
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 6: two teams are competitive in the SEC. If either of

1009
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 6: these two teams have success, I mean give them their flowers,

1010
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 6: because this is going to be a rough change for

1011
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 6: both teams.

1012
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 7: So do you guys want you where do you think

1013
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 7: the numbers are for Texas and Oklahoma? Where do you

1014
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 7: think the win totals are? I'm on on GYM, I'm

1015
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 7: on MGM's site right now.

1016
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 11: I would guess that Oklahoma is probably somewhere between seven

1017
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 11: and a half.

1018
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: Maybe I was going to say seven and a half.

1019
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 7: Good call seven and a half on Oklahoma, and the

1020
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 7: juice is pretty much even on both sides. Texas is

1021
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 7: ten and a half ye with plus money to the over.

1022
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 7: Over ten and a half is plus one forty. Under

1023
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 7: ten and a half's minus one sixty five, basically saying

1024
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 7: about sixty percent they'll stay under ten and a half wins.

1025
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: Does that sound right in your guys' mind? Absolutely it does.

1026
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the top end games Oklahoma Georgia at Michigan,

1027
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: Michigan's gonna look a lot different.

1028
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: But let's just say they don't beat Georgia, right, they

1029
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: can't lose another game, right?

1030
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: Like?

1031
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: Is that right, Jared?

1032
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 7: Like?

1033
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean when you go ten to you that

1034
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: you don't go over ten and a half.

1035
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 7: You have to win eleven games in order to win

1036
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 7: this bet, and I'd be willing to bet that you

1037
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 7: can probably get you know, the prices vary from shop

1038
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 7: to shop, but yeah, I'm I'm hammering that under. And

1039
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 7: then here's some of the other numbers that are intriguing.

1040
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 7: So Texas is plus seven to seventy five to win

1041
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 7: the championship, not just to make the championship, not to

1042
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 7: make the playoffs, just to win the championship. Their minus

1043
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 7: two twenty five, which is saying like a seventy percent

1044
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 7: implied probability for them just to make the playoff. Now

1045
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 7: the playoffs expanded, so it's we have to, you know,

1046
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 7: raise the bar accordingly, Oklahoma sixty to one to win

1047
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 7: the championship, five to one to make the playoff.

1048
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: I think that's the bet.

1049
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 7: I'd be more interested in Oklahoma five.

1050
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: To one to make the playoff.

1051
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 7: What do we think?

1052
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: Got a tough schedule? It's very tough. That's why it's

1053
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: five to one. Yeah, I don't like it. I go

1054
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: back to this, I just I just don't see it

1055
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: this year. I don't. And that's the thing, man, You

1056
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: go back to the season win total for Oklahoma at

1057
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: seven and a half. Yeah, eight and four is not

1058
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: getting in.

1059
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get to ten, and you got to

1060
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: get to nine. Yeah, at least nine at least have

1061
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: a shot. But ten I think would get you.

1062
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 7: That's a good question too, like we because we usually

1063
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 7: it's like, you got to go defeate it to make

1064
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 7: the playoff. Now ten wins in the SEC probably in

1065
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 7: probably yeah, probably in It's uphill though, man, absolutely uphill.

1066
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: All right, we've got rich orn Berger, Penn State All American.

1067
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: We've got Jarrett Smith FSR betting analyst Brian No, actually

1068
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: super super fast because I just remembered our guy Chris Burfett,

1069
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: he had something on this or technical producer.

1070
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to speed past him. He wants in no,

1071
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: come join the party.

1072
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 12: I just on the case of Texas too, I'm I'm

1073
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 12: genuinely curious what we're going to get with another year

1074
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 12: of Quinn youewers. I don't think it just lineared growth up,

1075
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 12: and most NFL people I talk to have been kind

1076
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 12: of I don't know. I was playing around with like

1077
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 12: some mock draft simulators and none of them think very

1078
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 12: highly of Quinn you Weers at this point, like PFF

1079
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 12: and and all the rest, Like I don't it seems

1080
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 12: like it's a performance. Is that Texas is really going

1081
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 12: to be begging to try to repeat, especially in much

1082
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 12: better competition. It just it just never really pans out.

1083
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 12: I'd much rather stock put stock in someone like Oregon

1084
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 12: going to the Big ten right now, and the Big

1085
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 12: ten is good. It's just you know, Oregon has been

1086
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 12: primed for a lot of success here with taking advantage

1087
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 12: of the transfer portal and Landing being one of the

1088
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 12: better coaches right now in college.

1089
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: Football, like it just Hillan Gabriel, Dylan Caper.

1090
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, really, what's funny is with betting, I'll

1091
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: have a team that maybe just completely screwed me, or

1092
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: there's a prop bet that was right there for the

1093
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: taking and it went south.

1094
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's a painful memory.

1095
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: When I hear quinn yours, Jared, I think of you,

1096
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: and I think of your successful ladder and passing yardage

1097
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: in a bowl game?

1098
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: Who was that?

1099
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 3: Was it against Missouri?

1100
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: Missed?

1101
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: So the bowl games are the best, I think it will.

1102
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 7: I forget who they played that I don't even care.

1103
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: All I know is it was maybe.

1104
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: Could have been playing the for all I care.

1105
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh it was gosh, I'm trying to figure out what

1106
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: game the al Yes it was, but who was getting Yeah,

1107
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: I didn't think you might be right.

1108
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 7: It might be Missouri. It was a big, big twelve

1109
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 7: sec That makes sense with the Alamo Bowl.

1110
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, craziness. But at least I have one

1111
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: good memory through you winning a bet.

1112
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1113
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: We'll get some better bets next year.

1114
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 7: It's crazy to think guys like college football like we're

1115
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 7: kind of here, like it's in a month, we're going

1116
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 7: to be like, right there, it's basically right around the corner.

1117
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: It's beautiful right there, all right.

1118
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: Coming up next a heartfelt goodbye that we want to

1119
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 2: share with you around the corner. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

1120
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

1121
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1122
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: So listen.

1123
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge sports movie guy, as much as

1124
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: I love sports, because sometimes sports movies can get pretty cheesy,

1125
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: you know. So I have exceptions here and there, but

1126
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: generally not a huge sports movie fan. But I say

1127
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: that because every now and then you could miss a

1128
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: great moment because you're like, oh, it's a little bit

1129
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: too cheesy over here. I bring this up because of

1130
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: Clay Thompson. Klay Thompson is no longer with the Warriors.

1131
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 3: He's joined the.

1132
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks, and he posted a heartfelt goodbye to the

1133
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: Warriors and the fans and all of that on Instagram,

1134
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: and I just wanted to share it because sometimes I

1135
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: feel like we could be like, oh, so choose, and

1136
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: sometimes we're just missing cool moments, you know. And so

1137
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, he wrote, oh, Bay Area, there are not

1138
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: enough words and images to convey how I really feel

1139
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: about y'all. From the bottom of my heart. Thank you

1140
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: so much for the best times of my life. It

1141
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: was such an honor to put that Dubb's jersey on.

1142
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: From day one, I really just wanted to be the

1143
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: best I could be and help bring as many championships

1144
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: as possible to the region. The best part was not

1145
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: the rings, though, it was the friendships I made that

1146
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: will last a lifetime. My family and I would like

1147
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: to thank all of the amazing people who worked tirelessly

1148
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: to make the Warriors organization world class. Don't be sad

1149
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: it's over. Be happy it happened until we meet again.

1150
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: Sea Captain out a great tagline there. He loves to

1151
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: sail around, so he's known as the sea Captain. I

1152
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: didn't know that, Kun, Yeah, but that I just love

1153
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: that where I don't know, sometimes we get too involved

1154
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: in Hey, this guy's making X amount of money and

1155
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: this and that, and we just moved too fast from

1156
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: the relationships that occur. And I just love that Klay

1157
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: Thompson took the time and it was heartfelt. It wasn't

1158
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: this Hey, it was fun, just wasn't real fun. That

1159
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: was legitimately heartfelt.

1160
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and you'd expect that.

1161
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 6: Look, there are times where these city goodbyes or area goodbyes,

1162
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 6: because in this case it is an area the Bay

1163
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 6: Area are supporters, proud supporters of the Golden State Warriors.

1164
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 6: I mean, during his tenure there, they moved from one arena,

1165
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 6: from one pro I'm in an area of the Bay

1166
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 6: Area to the other. Uh So this this is very

1167
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 6: much so heartfelt message Tody of the Bay Area going

1168
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: from Oakland to San Francisco in his time.

1169
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1170
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 6: It's what's interesting about these goodbyes is sometimes it feels

1171
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 6: like a team of public relations writers or agents were

1172
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 6: more involved. In this case, it felt like it was

1173
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 6: mostly Clay. You know, it felt like that's probably a

1174
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 6: genuine sentiment from from Clay.

1175
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 4: Thompson to the fan base, which is cool.

1176
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, is Brian getting nostalgic on me over here?

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: I didn't know that you had those vibes in you, Brian.

1178
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: I thought it was all exist anger and rage. You

1179
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: don't know me very well.

1180
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: They don't.

1181
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 3: I don't.

1182
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 7: And that's why I love when we get to do

1183
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 7: these should I get to peel back the layers of

1184
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 7: the Brian no onion.

1185
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: No, I think this is a this is heartfelt.

1186
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 7: I there does there is a little corniness in using

1187
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 7: these emotions, but I think.

1188
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: We are so like we're so too cool for school

1189
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: these days.

1190
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 7: Is a society that I appreciate when people show us

1191
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 7: who they really are. And it's kind of funny because

1192
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 7: Kevin Durant, who gets a lot of criticism about, you know,

1193
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 7: maybe being too vulnerable sometimes with you know, his his

1194
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 7: feelings and his emotions, chimed in and and and kind

1195
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 7: of tied a nice bow on this called Klay Thompson

1196
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 7: a Bay Area god in his farewell post to Clay.

1197
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 7: And yeah, I mean I think that's a very fair sentiment.

1198
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 7: This is an end of an era in the NBA.

1199
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 7: You get a franchise that is kind of the window

1200
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 7: has officially closed. It is being slam shut and locked,

1201
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 7: and we don't know if it's going to be open again.

1202
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: But this is the end of right.

1203
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 7: We saw kd leave a couple of years ago, and

1204
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 7: and you know, now it's it's it's Clay, and it's

1205
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 7: there's only one left standing from that dynasty.

1206
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: Now, I guess you want to count Steve Kerr. But

1207
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: in terms of players on the floor.

1208
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, I didn't love the way that

1209
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 7: the Warriors handled the way the last year or so.

1210
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 7: You know, I think they overreached a little bit on

1211
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 7: Wiseman when they drafted him. And I don't think they

1212
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 7: really did a great job with the Chris Paul thing

1213
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 7: and basically giving him away for nothing and you know

1214
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 7: everything they gave up to get him. So it just

1215
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 7: we've kind of seen this Warriors team Evan flow and yeah,

1216
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 7: this you know, the farewell captain, Oh captain, my captain

1217
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 7: for Klay Thompson. Like I know Steph is still there,

1218
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 7: but it feels like this is really the end of

1219
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 7: this Warriors dynasty this year.

1220
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is. It's completely different with Klay Thompson

1221
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: being gone.

1222
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: They picked up Buddy Healed, so they're gonna still be

1223
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: jacking up threes, there's no doubt about that. But I

1224
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: like what you brought up, Rich where it sounded just

1225
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: like Clay. It sounded like Clay just wrote it out

1226
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: and it didn't seem like he had any help. If

1227
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 2: he did, they did good job. It blows my mind,

1228
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: especially when an athlete gets in some type of legal

1229
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: charm and the statement comes out and you can tell

1230
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: it's not from him at all. I would hope that

1231
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: the lawyers in the inner circle would be better at

1232
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: writing the statement where it sounds like it's halfway from

1233
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: the athlete, you.

1234
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

1235
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: It just starts off and it's like four score and

1236
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: seven years ago, and it's like, that's not him at all.

1237
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: What are you guys doing? It happens so often in sports.

1238
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: They gotta get way better at that.

1239
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I.

1240
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 6: Mean it's very strange when you see an athlete who

1241
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 6: also hasn't really ingratiated himself to.

1242
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 4: Like a city or a.

1243
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 6: Fan base, right like this long drawn out, like ten

1244
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 6: page Instagram, you know, photo share and like you're like really,

1245
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 6: like we like, did the city really need a goodbye

1246
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 6: from this guy?

1247
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 7: You know?

1248
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 4: And I don't want to embarrass anybody.

1249
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 6: But we've all read a lot of these where it's like, wow,

1250
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 6: what are we doing here? But but look, I understand

1251
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 6: it from a standpoint of branding and brand management and

1252
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: public relations, there are certain, let's just say, boxes that

1253
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 6: need to be checked in order to make sure that

1254
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 6: everybody is happy, that nobody is suspicious that maybe you're

1255
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 6: not what you say you are. So if you you know,

1256
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 6: if you purportedly you know, if you're a good guy

1257
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: and you do good, good guy things and you know,

1258
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 6: good people would say goodbye to a fan base and

1259
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 6: you don't do it, and it doesn't seem sincere are

1260
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 6: you actually a good guy?

1261
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 7: You know?

1262
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 6: Does whoever it is, does kind bar energy bars want

1263
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: to do business with you anymore if you don't have

1264
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 6: that same image, you know. So, I don't know, It's

1265
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 6: just one of those things where I feel like in

1266
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 6: certain cases, athletes or influencers, they they feel like they

1267
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 6: have to do certain things to appear He's people. Yeah,

1268
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 6: and that is I mean, that is the root of disingenuineness.

1269
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 6: That's obviously inauthentic. But Clay obviously enjoyed his time being

1270
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 6: a part of the Splash Brothers, part of the Warriors dynasty,

1271
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 6: part of what made the Bay Area over the span

1272
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 6: of time that he was there special, you know, because

1273
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 6: without the Warriors and the magic that they created, I mean,

1274
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 6: the San Francisco forty nine ers during this stint have

1275
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: been good. But you remember how desperate it looked before

1276
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 6: Shanahan and Lynch showed up on the scene.

1277
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 4: I mean the Oakland Raiders while they were still there.

1278
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 6: I mean, it's always been pretty bleak for the A's

1279
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 6: like it's it's The Giants had their time during the

1280
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 6: twenty tens, but the Warriors really brought to magic to

1281
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 6: that area of the country, and without Klay Thompson, they

1282
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 6: certainly would not.

1283
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: Have been able to Yes, Sharks want a Stanley Cup too.

1284
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: You don't want to forget oh Santo.

1285
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, San Jose, And I know that's kind of the

1286
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 7: forgotten part of the Bay Area sometimes, but that's ah,

1287
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 7: it was a really good run in the in the

1288
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 7: early twenty tens. There was saying it with the Sharks

1289
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 7: winning it in twenty sixteen, and then the Giants had

1290
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 7: their nice little run there.

1291
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1292
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 7: I struggle with the with the the creator vibe that

1293
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 7: you were alluding to a little bit rich because on

1294
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 7: a daily basis, I feel like if I don't give

1295
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 7: out bets, I didn't do my job. And like, you know,

1296
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 7: everyone takes a day off, everyone takes but there's no

1297
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 7: days off in baseball unless you get to the All

1298
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 7: Star break. So that's something that I battle with every day,

1299
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 7: is to you know, appease the masses. So they don't

1300
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 7: come for me and pitchforks. If I'm not giving out

1301
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 7: good bets, people get really upset. But did you write

1302
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 7: a goodbye note or a goodbye post for any of

1303
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 7: your times changing teams?

1304
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: Rich, I'm curious.

1305
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't. You just went with it, man,

1306
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 4: you just like screw you guys. I'm gone.

1307
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I never felt well, don't get

1308
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 6: me wrong, like I felt a connection to New England

1309
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Speaker 6: and the Patriots fans specifically, because you know, when you

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Speaker 6: get drafted to a team and it's the first team

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 6: that you're cut by, like you know, there there is

1312
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 6: this feeling of like wow, that that chapter's closed and

1313
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 6: who knows what's next for me? And but my next

1314
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 6: stop was with the Arizona Cardinals, and I was only

1315
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 6: I lived in Phoenix for nine months. I mean I

1316
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 6: literally felt like a mercenary, like I was. I was

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01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 6: hired to do a job, got in, got out, you know,

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: and it was Don't get me wrong, I love my

1319
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Speaker 6: time in Phoenix. But like, you don't really connect yourself

1320
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Speaker 6: to a fan base the way you would if you're

1321
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 6: you know, playing for a decade in a place like

1322
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Speaker 6: Clay Thompson where and then by the way, and then

1323
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 6: he was an integral part of the story of the

1324
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 6: Warriors again without Clay tom Up, you know, they wouldn't

1325
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 6: have had nearly as many special times in that city

1326
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 6: without him, you know, the parades. I mean, he was

1327
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Speaker 6: literally fabric of that community for the time he was there.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if the twenty twelve fan base of

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals knew if number seventy two was on

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Speaker 6: the field or not, you know, I mean, it's just

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 6: I mean I was in and out of that place,

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,959
Speaker 6: so you know, No, it didn't feel when my career ended,

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 6: though I did feel a little something, you know, when

1334
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 6: I when I knew it was over, I knew I

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01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 6: was retiring. I eventually got around to having my story

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 6: told in it. It was actually by ballet time. Sam

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 6: Farmer picked up on a long thread that I tweeted

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Speaker 6: out kind of admonishing Indianapolis fans for the way they

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 6: handled Andrew lux retirement, you know, saying that you have

1340
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 6: no idea how much goes into being a football player

1341
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 6: and how much he had been through because a lot

1342
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 6: of his career was marred by pretty severe injuries and

1343
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 6: for fans to find out that he was retiring in

1344
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 6: a leaked tweet, I think by schefter who sourced it

1345
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: and then boom them off the field in his last time.

1346
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: In a Colt's uniform.

1347
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 6: I thought was classless, and so I wrote this long

1348
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 6: thread and my retirement story ended up in the La

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01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 6: Times as a result of it. And it's like kind

1350
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 6: of my way of saying goodbye. You know, everybody has

1351
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 6: their way of saying goodbye.

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Speaker 4: Clay's I thought. I think Klay Thompson did it with

1353
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of class.

1354
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 3: Well, the Shark's loss to the Penguins and that Stanley Cup.

1355
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry to get all the San Jose fans all

1356
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 7: riled up there, but it made it to the Stanley

1357
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 7: Cup finals.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win it, but I think that's still pretty

1359
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 3: good for San Jose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well pretty good for us as we have Isaac

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: lohan Kron. You know, Klay Thompson says bye to the

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: Bay Area.

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 3: We say hello to Isaac lohen Kron, and we actually

1364
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 3: have leading off here.

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 10: A rich Ornberger Arizona update from the archives. This from

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01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 10: two thousand and twelve. Ornberger, known as one of the

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 10: funniest men in all of football. Quote looks like a

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 10: middle aged comic with a barrel chest and full head

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 10: of gray hair, despite being just twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Is that a real line?

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 9: That?

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: That is a real awesome line?

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 6: Let me guess as written by Josh Weinfist, barrel chested

1374
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,959
Speaker 6: freedom fine Rich Ornberger.

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 10: Let's see here. It doesn't say, but I'm guessing it

1376
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 10: was Josh Winefist. It goes on and I didn't even

1377
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 10: know about this quote. Like any good comic, Ornberger is

1378
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 10: collecting new material all the time. He's filled about one

1379
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 10: hundred pages of a notebook with jokes, quips, one liners.

1380
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 10: Anything that comes to mind?

1381
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Is that cool? Where's that notebook?

1382
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: Now?

1383
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 6: I have no idea, but yeah, at a time, there

1384
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 6: was a long part of my young life where I

1385
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 6: thought I would be, or at very least attempt to

1386
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 6: be a stand up comic.

1387
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 4: I get that ship has sailed.

1388
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 7: And I can see it, though I honestly can't. I

1389
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: have some friends who are comics, and you fit the bill.

1390
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: It was, uh, yeah, it was.

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01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm addicted to comedy. I watch all the specials.

1392
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 6: You know, George Carlin is a hero?

1393
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Yeah, George Carlin. Yep, thanks to YouTube, so much

1394
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 10: of that is there? Another highlight on YouTube what happened

1395
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 10: with the richest San Diego Padres last night. They entered

1396
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 10: the bottom of the ninth inning trailing Arizona ten to

1397
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 10: eight jerks and Profar led off to tie the game

1398
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 10: with a home run, and then later with one man

1399
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 10: on Manny Machado came to the plate. Here's don Orsillodel.

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: Fields sat against.

1401
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: It up.

1402
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 10: Also Friday night, Will Smith of the Los Angeles Dodgers

1403
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 10: hit three home runs and an eight to five win

1404
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 10: over the Milwaukee Brewers and the NBA. ESPN reported a

1405
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 10: short time ago, free agent forward Caleb Martin finalizing a

1406
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 10: deal with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. In soccer, the

1407
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 10: quarterfinals of Euro twenty twenty four continue at noon Eastern

1408
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 10: as England takes on Switzerland. Finally fell as in cycling

1409
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 10: at the Tour de France, the International Cycling Union fined

1410
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 10: French writer Julian Bernard two hundred Swiss francs about two

1411
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 10: hundred and twenty three dollars American for pausing in the

1412
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 10: road during the race to kiss his wife. The International

1413
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 10: Cycling Union said in a statement that Bernard's behavior was

1414
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 10: inappropriate and damaged the image of the sport. I don't

1415
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 10: remember them saying that about doping, but anyway, Bernard tweeted,

1416
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 10: and I quote, I'm sorry for damaging the image of

1417
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 10: the sport, but I'm willing to pay two hundred Swiss

1418
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 10: francs every day to experience.

1419
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 1: This moment again.

1420
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, husband of the Year.

1421
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox

1422
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. By the way, this is why I love

1423
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: about gambling. There's so much space to cover, and inevitably

1424
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: there are gonna be some spaces where you're like, I

1425
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: don't know.

1426
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1427
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: I bring this up because Greece is taking on Slovenia

1428
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: an Olympic basketball qualifying So we've got Giannis against Luca, right, Like, so,

1429
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: what do you think the point spread was initially for

1430
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: this matchup?

1431
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 4: Oh?

1432
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 3: What would you get? I would have right? No, wow,

1433
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: Greece minus six and a half. Wow.

1434
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 2: And uh, Jannis and Greece have the upper hand early on.

1435
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: We're halfway through the first quarter and Greece is up

1436
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: fifteen to two.

1437
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess the number was right, Yeah.

1438
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 2: Gets SLOVENI on the lifeline if you would like, yeah,

1439
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: if you would like to.

1440
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 3: I know nothing about international basketball.

1441
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 7: Nothing I do know Slovenia is they were pretty decent

1442
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 7: in soccer the other day they've had they had a

1443
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 7: good little run.

1444
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 4: On the on the pitch.

1445
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: I love looking through these points spread so much because

1446
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Well, it's like the Bahamas are

1447
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 2: taking on Lebanon.

1448
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 7: The Bahamas against like Lebanon.

1449
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: What do you think the point spread would be between

1450
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: Lebanon and the Bahamas.

1451
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: I would hope the Bahamas are favored.

1452
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 4: I would hope so too. But what the crazy thing

1453
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 4: about it is?

1454
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 7: Can you tell me the like the population of Lebanon

1455
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 7: probably like the size of Delaware.

1456
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 4: Ye, Like, who the hell knows?

1457
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna say Bahamas favored by fourteen and

1458
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 6: a half.

1459
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: Fourteen not a bad guess what do you think of you, guys?

1460
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: I would say ten Bahamas minus twenty three three.

1461
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,839
Speaker 3: They're favored by twenty three points over Lebanon.

1462
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: I like some of this.

1463
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 7: I have no like Detroit Mercy against Wisconsin Green Bay,

1464
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 7: some of those weird Horizon League lines.

1465
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: It is interesting, though, that Yannis he missed the NBA playoffs.

1466
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: He's playing for Team Grease. I'm sure that the Bucks

1467
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 2: are like but they don't dare.

1468
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 7: Say nos not to play for Team Canada.

1469
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: Pretty much. Yeah, that's the thing.

1470
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: He sat out the Canadians the Canadian men's basketball team's

1471
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: training camp in Toronto, and so he's not eligible for

1472
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 2: the Olympic team. And the Warriors said it was it

1473
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: was a mutual decision. But Team Canada is ticked off.

1474
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 4: It do mutual.

1475
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 7: I don't think Wiggins, I don't think that's mutual. That's

1476
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 7: not There's no way Wiggins said no. I'm sure he asked,

1477
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 7: and the Warriors said no.

1478
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a little bit of a different tax

1479
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: bracket with Giannis, you know what I mean, who could

1480
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: say I'm over this like small market thing.

1481
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 3: I want to go to New York.

1482
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 7: You know, you have a contract thing. He probably hasn't

1483
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 7: any deal like Joanness can say yes to that stuff.

1484
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 7: And I'm sure the international players when they come over,

1485
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 7: that would be something that I would want negotiated in

1486
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 7: my contract. I want to be able to go back

1487
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 7: home and play for my country whenever, whenever I see fit.

1488
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 4: By the way, also, sometimes players like you know they'll

1489
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 4: use an opportunity like this. It might have been Wiggins.

1490
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 4: Wiggins could have gone to the organization and.

1491
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 6: Said, hey, please have my back, like just just say

1492
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 6: that you're fifty percent on board with this as well,

1493
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 6: that it was a mutual decision I not play.

1494
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 7: You know, do you think that Klay Thompson Thon had

1495
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 7: anything to do with it, like, hey, we're about to

1496
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 7: lose Clay.

1497
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: We can't afford to get you hurt in Canada.

1498
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 6: Could have been generated by the Warriors like they they

1499
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 6: made it put out the ask like hey, before you

1500
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:07,879
Speaker 6: go rolling an ankle.

1501
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have been. It could have been.

1502
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's a bonding time coming up next,

1503
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 2: prop it Up? We will look at the prop bet market.

1504
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: We've got Rich Heronberger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith

1505
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No hang with us right here.

1506
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. It is

1507
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1508
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: Let's dive into.

1509
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: This prop it up player plays.

1510
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, the prop bet market, let's get after it. Jared,

1511
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: We'll start with you. What are you thinking today?

1512
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: Picture prop baby?

1513
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 7: All right, we're gonna focus on this Rai's Rangers game.

1514
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 7: I think both pictures are ripe for the pickings. Here

1515
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 7: Andrew Heeney for the Rangers, we're gonna go under seventeen

1516
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 7: and a half out. He's gone under this in kin

1517
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 7: of sixteen starts, coming off of a really good outing.

1518
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 7: I was on this under against the Orioles a few

1519
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 7: days ago.

1520
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 3: He went over.

1521
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 7: Andrew heeni pitched a great game against the Orioles. I

1522
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 7: don't know if he's gonna be able to do that

1523
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 7: two straight starts against another really good American League East team,

1524
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 7: The Rays second in Baseball in pitches, seene high strikeout team.

1525
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 7: All of that means the pitch count for he and

1526
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 7: he's gonna be high.

1527
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 4: I also like TODG.

1528
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 7: Bradley, the other pitcher in this game on the other side,

1529
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 7: for the Rais, to go over five and a half strikeouts.

1530
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 7: This dude throws smoke, and he's gone over this in

1531
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 7: eight of his ten starts this year. Rangers about an average,

1532
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 7: maybe slightly above average strikeout rate team.

1533
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna throw a lot of lefties in.

1534
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 7: The lineup too, and Bradley has a really good change

1535
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 7: up against lefties, so I think Bradley over five and

1536
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 7: a half strikeouts. He Ney under seventeen and a half outs.

1537
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 7: Put in a parlay if you want, why not.

1538
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 4: Pitcher prop as well? Here I got one for you.

1539
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,520
Speaker 6: It's gonna focus on this San Diego Padres Arizona Diamondbacks

1540
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 6: game today. First pitch six to forty West coast time.

1541
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 6: It'll be an afternoon start on the East coast. Matt

1542
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 6: Waldron the knuckleballer for the.

1543
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 4: Friars, right San Diego Padre pitcher.

1544
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 6: He's been a capable arm in the rotation unexpectedly so

1545
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,879
Speaker 6: didn't know if he was going to be a starting

1546
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 6: pitcher or starting pitcher caliber type player this season. This

1547
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 6: is his first real test and he's passed the test.

1548
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 6: He's a sub four guy. He got roughed up a

1549
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 6: little bit toward the end of the month of June,

1550
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 6: but overall he's been very dependable in this one area.

1551
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 6: If you want to bet unders un hits allowed under

1552
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 6: five and a half, I'm taking it five and a

1553
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 6: half hits allout for Matt Waldron in this game against

1554
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: the Diamondbacks today.

1555
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm looking at the Cleveland Guardians. I am all

1556
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 3: about the Guardians.

1557
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: Today and the first play, I'm looking at Jose Ramirez,

1558
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: who is a fantastic hitter and hid absolutely nothing yesterday.

1559
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 3: He just had a rough game, and so I'm taking

1560
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: him to bounce back.

1561
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take total bases over one and a half

1562
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 2: for Jose Ramirez Today. They're facing the Giants, and the

1563
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: Giants have been really good lately. The opposing pitcher is

1564
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison, who's been all right, nothing spectacular eer just

1565
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 2: under four respectable. But I think this Guardian's offense, they

1566
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: were zerover eleven with runners in scoring position yesterday. Wow,

1567
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: it's really hard to beat them on the road, like

1568
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: when they're in Cleveland. They've got a fantastic record. They

1569
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: are this season at home twenty eight and eleven, and

1570
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: so it was just a rough one yesterday. I'm gonna

1571
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: take them to bounce back and leading the charge. I've

1572
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: got Jose Ramirez over one and a half total bases.

1573
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: I like it.

1574
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 7: So I struggle with hit with batter props sometimes, like

1575
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 7: I've gone back and forth which props are like veteran

1576
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 7: baseball hitter or pitcher. I tend to stay away from

1577
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 7: hitter props because I feel like I can be pitched

1578
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 7: around a lot more. Yeah, but I do like certain spots,

1579
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 7: especially if guys are coming off of bad games and

1580
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 7: they really get it's all matchup dependent. I'll give you

1581
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 7: a plum this funny one in his Dodgers game.

1582
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 3: Maybe Bo likes this one.

1583
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 7: Freddy Peralta under seventeen and a half outs stayed under

1584
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 7: this in nine of the last thirteen starts. Do we

1585
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 7: think Paralta's gonna go six innings against the Dodgers tonight?

1586
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 7: Dodgers see a lot of pitches plus money. Yeah, I

1587
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 7: don't mind that under seventeen and a half.

1588
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 4: Outs they wear out starting pitchers. I don't know.

1589
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that happened to me with Jordan Alvarez. He

1590
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: was scorching hot against Toronto. They pitched around him and

1591
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: then he got plunked twice. Hit not the greatest headline

1592
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: for team Hornberger. Next, Ah, good morning, happy Saturday. So

1593
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: you hope your day is going great. So I've got some.

1594
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 3: I've got some not so great news for you, Rich Hornberger.

1595
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 4: What wekay?

1596
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing.

1597
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: We had some fun with this on the text thread

1598
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: throughout the week. But just to set this up, Riches

1599
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: of the opinion that one day, in the not too

1600
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: distant future, sports gambling is going to change in a

1601
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: big way, maybe to the point where professional athletes are

1602
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: able to bet on their respective sport and maybe their

1603
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: respective team. Right, Okay, so I disagree, but that's Rich's position,

1604
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Reasonable minds can disagree.

1605
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 4: No issue here.

1606
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: But there was a story this week that caught my attention. Rich.

1607
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: So this is former raptor John Tay Porter. So we

1608
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: know he's been suspended indefinitely. Some look at it as

1609
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 2: a lifetime ban from the NBA because he was gambling

1610
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: on NBA games, among other things. And one of the

1611
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: things he was giving inside information to some of these

1612
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: gamblers and he was like, quote unquote, according to the story,

1613
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: into deep like he had he had a tab of

1614
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: gambling debts, and so they're like, Okay, we got an idea.

1615
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: How about you just mysteriously leave a game early and

1616
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: we'll just hammer the under on all your player props.

1617
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: So he's in hot water for that. He's facing federal charges.

1618
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: He's facing a felony in connection with this betting scandal

1619
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: that led to this lifetime ban or this indefinite suspension

1620
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: from the NBA. So in terms of maybe being able

1621
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: to gamble on your sport one day, we are far

1622
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: away from that happening if it ever does happen, and

1623
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it ever will.

1624
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 4: Well, I.

1625
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 6: Don't disagree with the thought process that we may still

1626
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 6: be far away from it. But never say never, because

1627
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people who said, oh, I mean,

1628
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 6: athletes will never be able to smoke dope.

1629
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, while they're playing. Ricky Williams, he's crazy.

1630
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 6: He's a pot addict, like you know, okay, yeah, and

1631
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 6: maybe he had a little bit of an addiction or

1632
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 6: maybe he still does to marijuana. I don't know, but

1633
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 6: everybody looked at that situation and they were like, my goodness, like,

1634
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,879
Speaker 6: you know this guy, you know, he's on this voyage

1635
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: to try to.

1636
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 4: Take away the demonization of this.

1637
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 6: Drug that there are clear rules that stipulate he wasn't

1638
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 6: allowed to use during the course of his playing career,

1639
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 6: and how ridiculous to retire over it, and blah blah blah,

1640
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 6: and here we are. I mean, the headlines next to

1641
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 6: this Jontae Bordi border headline are headlines about how all

1642
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 6: these leagues are lifting and loosening their rules on cannabis

1643
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 6: usage at the college level as well. You know it's

1644
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 6: being discussed, So I think, like the the times are changing. Nil,

1645
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 6: speaking of college football, college athletics, name, image and likeness,

1646
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 6: athletes getting paid at the collegiate level. Not five years ago,

1647
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 6: there was a chorus of people who were covering sports,

1648
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 6: intelligent sports watching reporters, commentators, sports broadcasters who said, never, never,

1649
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 6: will college athletes be paid.

1650
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 4: It's just never gonna happen.

1651
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 6: Well, here we are five years later, and it's happening.

1652
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 6: So I think in this case, yeah, it looks really

1653
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 6: bad for Jontay Porter and he did something that regardless

1654
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 6: of whether rules are loosen in the future, I don't

1655
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 6: think they'll ever be room for in any of sport

1656
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 6: because you will completely destroy the integrity of any sports

1657
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 6: league where this is allowed.

1658
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 4: But what I do think may happen in the future

1659
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 4: is very specific. Bets may be allowed to be made.

1660
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 6: Like if you are I don't know a player A,

1661
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 6: you know, working with Sportsbook B playing for Team C,

1662
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 6: you may be able to say, hey, I player A

1663
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 6: and Sportsbook B is it's a great place to place

1664
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 6: bets and I'm betting that Team C is gonna win

1665
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 6: it all this season, and you can bet my back

1666
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 6: my bet at sportsbook b you know, and then there's

1667
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 6: a big smile, and then it's all over social media

1668
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 6: that this you know, star quarterback or star point guard

1669
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 6: is backing his team to the tune of I don't know,

1670
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 6: fifty thousand dollars of his own money or one hundred

1671
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 6: thousand dollars of his own money to go all the

1672
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 6: way to the Super Bowl or all the way to the.

1673
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 4: NBA Championship Game. I don't know.

1674
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 6: I just I feel like in the not so distant future,

1675
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 6: because of the marketing aspect of that, that is going

1676
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 6: to be legalized.

1677
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 7: Oh boy, all right, I'll tell a story first then

1678
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 7: and i'll give some opinion. So the story in twenty fifteen,

1679
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 7: and I'm sure a lot of you have heard this story.

1680
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 7: It's kind of a gambling legendary story of a one

1681
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 7: point eighty in terms of a public stance on sports betting.

1682
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 7: In twenty fifth the NFL pulled Tony Romo from speaking

1683
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 7: at a fantasy football conference.

1684
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what the conference was.

1685
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 7: It was something fantasy sports related, and Tony Romo was

1686
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 7: it was here in Las Vegas. Tony Romo was scheduled

1687
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 7: to speak at it, and the NFL said, no way,

1688
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 7: we can't have you even affiliated with betting in any

1689
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 7: way fantasy gambling.

1690
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 3: No, Tony, go away, don't do it.

1691
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 7: And then five years later at the NFL moved to

1692
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 7: Vegas and had a team in Vegas, and then last

1693
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 7: year the Super Bowl was at Vegas. So it the

1694
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 7: ability to progress in terms of the timeline of events,

1695
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 7: it can happen. I'm not ruling it out, but I

1696
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 7: think the current climate we are in, which has become

1697
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 7: very controversial in terms of current athletes betting on the

1698
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 7: sport that they are playing in, it's a little it's

1699
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 7: it's almost like the phrase too soon, right. I think

1700
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:06,480
Speaker 7: we're too soon to get there. Maybe we will eventually

1701
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 7: get into a climate because you're talking about the marijuana thing,

1702
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 7: and I agree that was, you know, transformative legislature that

1703
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 7: now not only professional athletes, collegiate athletes. The NCAA also

1704
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 7: removed that this was like a twenty thirty year process.

1705
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 7: We're kind of in year three or four of the

1706
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 7: gambling experiment in this country. We've got a long ways

1707
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 7: to go. I tell people. We're in like the top

1708
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 7: of the third inning. Maybe when we get to the

1709
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 7: seventh inning stretch, this will be on the table. But

1710
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 7: we haven't even finished our first hot dog yet. We

1711
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 7: still have to get to the second part of our

1712
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 7: you know, pregame, postgame, in game meal.

1713
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: We're not there yet, but I.

1714
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 7: Could see something in those lines happening, but the current

1715
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 7: climate we are in will prevent it from even being

1716
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 7: talked about for a long time.

1717
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing.

1718
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Rich and I we disagree like brothers from time to time.

1719
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: I feel like we have a lot of love for

1720
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: each other, like brothers do. I'll say this and you

1721
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: sometimes in sports, never say never. It'll never, ever, ever,

1722
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: ever ever happened in professional sports that athletes are able

1723
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: to bet on their sport.

1724
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: It'll never happen because they's from a marketing standpoint, never ever, ever, ever, ever.

1725
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 7: They said the same thing about Vegas and gambling in

1726
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 7: the NFL.

1727
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: They that's that's a step toward it. That doesn't mean

1728
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 2: that you're gonna pull vault over. This next hurdle takes time.

1729
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: We're not there yet.

1730
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 3: It takes time. There's just so much that can go wrong.

1731
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 2: That's the thing as soon as you open the door

1732
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: to hey, this NFL player can bet on NFL games, Well,

1733
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: guess what, you can start fading your team. You can

1734
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: do what John tay Porter did and he was in

1735
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: debt and the uh one of these people said, hey,

1736
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 2: how about, uh, how about you settle this with a special?

1737
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: And he's like, with a special?

1738
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 4: What is that?

1739
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: How about you intentionally exit games early and we're in

1740
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 2: the know and we're gonna bet the under and boom,

1741
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: your debts are settled.

1742
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Right, They got greedy.

1743
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: They made a million dollars by betting the under and

1744
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: it praised redflex so stupid. But the point is there's

1745
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: just so much more harm to be done than good.

1746
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: And like we could talk about Ricky Williams and weed

1747
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: and how much we've come up from that, but we

1748
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,480
Speaker 2: never threatened the authenticity of results.

1749
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 3: That's the difference right there.

1750
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 2: When Tim donaghue, when that happened, they're like audio, smouchacho,

1751
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 2: get the hell out of here.

1752
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, hey, it's so you know, we're in

1753
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 3: the gambling day and age.

1754
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: No, if that happened today with where gambling is, if

1755
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: you had Tim donaghe happen all over again, Adam Silver

1756
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, well, times have changed, you know, people,

1757
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 2: bet what's the big deal you can't have as a

1758
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 2: professional league the authenticity of your games being in question.

1759
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: It can't happen. And so there's no way they're ever

1760
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: going to make that step toward it happening. John day

1761
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 2: Porter is facing a felony in connection with all this stuff.

1762
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 2: Like you realize how far that's not on a sports scale,

1763
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: that's on a legal scale. There's no way the league.

1764
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if the leagues could even legally do it.

1765
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Like really, so it'll never happen.

1766
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 6: Well, I okay, I bak it saying never, But I

1767
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 6: do agree with you. We're probably and Jared frankly because

1768
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 6: I agree with the analogy to baseball.

1769
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: We're in the early innings here.

1770
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 6: You know, talk to me in twenty years though, you know,

1771
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 6: I mean because twenty years ago with the marijuana issue

1772
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 6: in sports, I mean, we are this close to having

1773
01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 6: a cannabis country company earned naming rights to one of these.

1774
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 7: Oh, that's definitely gonna happen, you know what I mean.

1775
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 7: That's rich, that's one hundred percent happening.

1776
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 6: It's going to be eas dot Com Stadium where the

1777
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 6: you know, the Alabama Crimson Tide are going to be

1778
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 6: taking on the Citadel.

1779
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: It's going to be something like that. That's all of

1780
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: these what do you what do you want to call them?

1781
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 7: Like the thirty five billion dollar industry. It's a huge

1782
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 7: indistactly but hey.

1783
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: Real fast, Rich building up of what you're talking about

1784
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: in Portland is my favorite weed company ever.

1785
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 4: Okay, the name of it.

1786
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 3: So the area code is five oh three, the name

1787
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 3: of the place was five oh tree.

1788
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 4: I love.

1789
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: I would love for the Motus Center where the Blazer's

1790
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: play to be renamed.

1791
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 8: Center five cent Center.

1792
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 7: It's going to happen, guys, just like the gambling, Just

1793
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 7: like every single commercial you see during an NFL game

1794
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 7: is sportsbook this that that the the exact same thing

1795
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 7: is gonna happen. But now that marijuana has been legalized

1796
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 7: in a lot of these sports, it's just a matter

1797
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 7: of time.

1798
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1799
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 7: I think where you got you guys are kind of

1800
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 7: on opposite islands with your arguments. Like Brian is really

1801
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 7: coming at it from a legal standpoint, and I agree

1802
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 7: with his argument, where Rich is coming at it from

1803
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 7: a marketing standpoint, and I do think the rules are

1804
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 7: a little bit i'll call them flimsier when you're dealing

1805
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 7: with something that's strictly for marketing. Like that's why the

1806
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,799
Speaker 7: disclaimers exist, and that's why anytime I do a segment

1807
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 7: for bet MGM, like we do these segments that we

1808
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 7: air every week, you know, you might see them on

1809
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 7: social media during the football season when we do those picks, the.

1810
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 3: Disclaimers and the language that.

1811
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 7: Gets put on the clips and on the tweets and everything,

1812
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 7: it's very heavy language for those reasons, like we are,

1813
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 7: you know, we're protecting our own booties, just to make

1814
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 7: sure that nobody sues us for something stupid. And I

1815
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 7: think that's the level of let's call it legalization that

1816
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 7: Rich is referring to. It's not like Dak Prescott going

1817
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 7: to the sports book and dealing with all these shady

1818
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 7: people like John deay Porter did, like, it's very much

1819
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 7: pristine and and everything's kind of keys cross and I

1820
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 7: got it. I don't think we're going to get there,

1821
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 7: but I'm not willing to say we will never get there.

1822
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: I am we'll never get there ever. And that's the

1823
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 2: last thing I'll say, Yeah, is to me, this would

1824
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: be just a last ditch effort if you could even

1825
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 2: legally do that. And I'm not convinced you could have

1826
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 2: your athletes in your respective sport bet on their respective sport, right,

1827
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 2: but this would be like a fledgling league or a

1828
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: league that no one's paying attention to.

1829
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 3: This is not the NFL agreed with that.

1830
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's like the NWSL and like league, no

1831
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: one's watching our games, Let's just have our athletes bet

1832
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 2: on the sport, you know, Let's just do some thing

1833
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: that's unconventional and get some attention and maybe it'll help us.

1834
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 2: That would make sense, But NBA, NFL coms.

1835
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 6: Well, here's here's the last thing I'll say is, you know,

1836
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 6: we talk about what the implications of this story are

1837
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 6: on sports overall, how about the implications on Johntay Porter's life.

1838
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 6: I mean, this guy twenty four years old makes a mistake,

1839
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 6: and I will call it a mistake because you can

1840
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 6: get convinced to do a lot of stupid things. Were

1841
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 6: makes a mistake that is going to follow him the

1842
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 6: rest of his life. Now he's a grown man and

1843
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 6: he's capable of decision making and I get it, and

1844
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 6: I get it.

1845
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: I get it.

1846
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 6: And you know, twenty four years old, you are you

1847
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 6: are plenty responsible for yourself at that point in life.

1848
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 6: But my goodness, getting tied up in something like this,

1849
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 6: I don't know who or why he did this. You

1850
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 6: know what allegiances he had to the people who were

1851
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 6: placing these bets. If this was for his own personal gain,

1852
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 6: or this was because he got in trouble with the

1853
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 6: wrong people and he felt like he owed people that

1854
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 6: certain things. I mean, what an awful story, because you're

1855
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 6: talking about this guy. I mean, he could live till

1856
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 6: he's ninety years old. He's gonna be thinking about something

1857
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 6: he did when he was twenty four to twenty three

1858
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 6: years old the rest of his life.

1859
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 4: It's just terrible.

1860
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 6: It's so terrible, and it's the reason why I think

1861
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 6: part of me agrees with you, Brian, that sports leagues

1862
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 6: will do everything they can to keep it church and

1863
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 6: state like.

1864
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 4: We will never have a mix. It's you know, treat

1865
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 4: it like religion and government.

1866
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 6: We really cannot have them mix otherwise, you know, there's

1867
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 6: corruptible powers at play.

1868
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 4: We'll see though. I mean, money is really what makes

1869
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 4: the world go round, so we'll see.

1870
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 6: But but I that's the reason why I lean in

1871
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 6: your direction, at least in the short term, that it

1872
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 6: doesn't feel like it ever will happen. But I'd never

1873
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 6: say never because money. When we're talking about the amounts

1874
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 6: of money involved in sports betting and gambling in general,

1875
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,879
Speaker 6: my goodness, I mean, they they air conditioned to desert.

1876
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 4: That's all I'll say.

1877
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 7: If we're still doing this show, whenever we get to

1878
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 7: a point that the culture and maybe the climate is there,

1879
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 7: then I'm very grateful for that. But to a lesser extent,

1880
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 7: this is why when we do the parlay platter, when

1881
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 7: we give out the picks every week, we're not telling

1882
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 7: you to make a whale megalock bet on these games

1883
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 7: like it is. This is the gambling side of sports

1884
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 7: is to me a slippery slope. I think people who

1885
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 7: are fans, they're short. It's fanash short for fanatic. And

1886
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 7: when you are very invested in your team emotionally, that

1887
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 7: can bleed over into the financial realm where you're not

1888
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 7: making logical decisions. You need to separate not only church

1889
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 7: and state when it comes to the teams betting on

1890
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 7: the players, betting on their teams. You need to separate

1891
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 7: your personal emotions from your teams when you're making your bets.

1892
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 7: That's what Johntay Porter didn't do. He was unable to

1893
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 7: separate those two and he got in with the wrong

1894
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 7: people and it got out of control. And that's why

1895
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 7: we will always preach discipline and control when we're talking

1896
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 7: about gambling here on this show.

1897
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.

1898
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 2: If it ever happens where athletes can bet on their

1899
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 2: own sport, I will eat a parlay plattern.

1900
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you guys, just figure out what it is and

1901
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 3: I'll eat it.

1902
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 13: It's mayonnaise and the car. Yeah, I'll just use that

1903
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 13: to wash it down because it's not happening ever ever.

1904
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger fen State All American with US Jared Smith

1905
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming up next. How

1906
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: many NFL quarterbacks are still in the honeymoon phase. It's

1907
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

1908
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1909
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 3: So I was thinking about that.

1910
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: If you look at the landscape of the NFL, how

1911
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 2: many quarterbacks are still in the honeymoon phase right, meaning

1912
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 2: they aren't getting heavily criticized for either a lack of

1913
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 2: individual numbers or a lack of team wins, you know,

1914
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: getting far into the playoffs, like.

1915
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: Who are the quarterbacks? Where it's still the honeymoon phase,

1916
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 3: where it's like, you know, shrug the shoulders, it's okay,

1917
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 3: not incredibly high expectations just yet. It is a short list, man.

1918
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 3: I think you can name off a few, just a handful.

1919
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 3: I think CJ.

1920
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: Stroud with the Texans YEP is still there, right, honeymoon phase.

1921
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 2: I think that Jordan with the Packers is still there.

1922
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 2: It's really good first season, starting through one of the

1923
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: worst playoff interceptions I've ever seen in my lifetime against

1924
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers.

1925
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 3: No one cared. I was like, you only need a

1926
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 3: field goal to tie it up.

1927
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 2: You threw late over the middle of the field, one

1928
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 2: of the easiest interceptions.

1929
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 3: No one cared.

1930
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, but did you see him against

1931
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Still the honeymoon phase for Jordan Love. I

1932
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 2: think Jaden Daniels rookie with the Washington Commanders, of course,

1933
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: I think he's in the honeymoon phase. I don't know

1934
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 2: that anybody else is. Seriously, if you look around the NFL,

1935
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 2: it's like, nope, nope, nope, nope.

1936
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 3: Is Josh Allen in the honeymoon face? Nope? We need

1937
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 3: a deep layoff run. Is Tua there?

1938
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 4: Nope?

1939
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 3: Is Aaron Rodgers there?

1940
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 4: Nope?

1941
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 3: We need another ring. It's just nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

1942
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 3: almost all across the league. If you can find one more,

1943
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm open to it. I think I've got one.

1944
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 4: Who is it?

1945
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 7: Burrow?

1946
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 3: Hmm? No, No, I don't think so.

1947
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 7: But but if hold on, let me because I agree

1948
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 7: on the surf. Yeah, the Bengals need to make a

1949
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 7: deep run. But let's say Joe plays great the whole

1950
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 7: year and then plays a bad AFC Championship game and

1951
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 7: they don't go to the Super Bowl.

1952
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 3: Are the Bengals calling for his dismissal?

1953
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 2: No?

1954
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 3: No, but fans are calling him out?

1955
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah a lot.

1956
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'llick everyone. Fans will call everyone out. Yeah.

1957
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't think you know rix think about No, it's

1958
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: funny you read my mind with the Patriots thing.

1959
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Caleb Williams with the Bears.

1960
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 7: There's noney number one pick. There's no honeymoon for a

1961
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 7: number one pick.

1962
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think with Drake May it was so

1963
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 2: negative heading into the draft, where it's like this guy

1964
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: the accuracy not even.

1965
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 9: Start Franklin, he might not one you want to hear

1966
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 9: a weird one because I kind of agree with you

1967
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,759
Speaker 9: a little bit with uh with the Patriots and the Bears,

1968
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 9: because that fan base with the Bears, they're so tired

1969
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 9: of losing.

1970
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 6: But I feel like the expectations have been artificially high

1971
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 6: in Chicago for.

1972
01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 4: A very long time.

1973
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 6: And with the Patriots, you're still living in the shadow

1974
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 6: of Tom Brady and that fan base is eager to

1975
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 6: get back to those winning ways.

1976
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 4: How about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. I mean, the

1977
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 4: honeymoon's not over.

1978
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 3: He never, it's never ended. It's been the whole time.

1979
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 2: If anybody has the credibility or the past to like

1980
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: weather a storm where he kind of stinks it up.

1981
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

1982
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 4: They went to Sandals and they never came home.

1983
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good over here.

1984
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Isaac Lowencron real fast for some

1985
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: breaking news, breaking news from Fox Sports.

1986
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 10: We've got some extremely sad NFL news to pass along.

1987
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 10: The Athletic TMZ and the Oregonian newspaper are all reporting

1988
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 10: that Minnesota Vikings rookie cornerback Kyrie Jackson was killed in

1989
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 10: a car crash in his hometown of Upper Marlboro, Maryland,

1990
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 10: at the age of twenty four. The Vikings drafted Jackson

1991
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 10: in the fourth round just a couple of months ago

1992
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 10: out of Oregon. Again, the Athletic, TMZ and the Oregonian

1993
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 10: newspaper all reporting that Minnesota Vikings rookie fourth round draft

1994
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 10: pick Kyrie Jackson has been killed in a car crash

1995
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 10: in his hometown of.

1996
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 3: Upper Marlborough, Maryland. Fellas nice, Yeah, just awful, awful news.

1997
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's well beyond sports. Yeah, he had his

1998
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: whole life in front of twenty four.

1999
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 3: Early twenties.

2000
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so sad heart goes out to the family,

2001
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 2: all the loved ones. Just brutal, brutal news.

2002
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 4: Woo.

2003
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's startling to hear, Like when you know, you

2004
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 6: start when you start really walking down the road of

2005
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 6: just how young we're talking about. I mean, then this

2006
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 6: is a guy, this guy who had to fight his

2007
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 6: way to get to Oregon, went the JC route, you know,

2008
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 6: obviously one of these guys who the pandemic slammed his

2009
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 6: football career like it did so many of these you know,

2010
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 6: draft picks this year. I mean, what he went through

2011
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 6: to get to the point he was at in his

2012
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 6: career and be a fourth rounder.

2013
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 4: I remember being taken in the fourth round.

2014
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 6: Didn't expect it to be drafted by the Patriots, and

2015
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 6: it was one of the greatest days of my life.

2016
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 4: And I know, certainly for my family. I mean, I'm

2017
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 4: not speaking out of school here. It was one of the.

2018
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 6: Proudest moments for my parents. I can't even imagine what

2019
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 6: they're going through right now. So thanks Ilo. Yeah, that's awful,

2020
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 6: awful news.

2021
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't even really have much of a response,

2022
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 7: as Richie a much more perspective on, you know, being

2023
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 7: in your early twenties and to get ready to go

2024
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 7: play in the NFL.

2025
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 3: But man, oh man, and you made a good point too.

2026
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 7: All the kids that are coming out of school in

2027
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 7: twenty four they entered college usually around the twenty twenty times.

2028
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 3: So this is just like a weird the last five

2029
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 3: years of this earth was I mean, I don't even

2030
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 3: know how to explain it.

2031
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, I just think you just never know

2032
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 2: when it's your time, and I just anything I take

2033
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 2: from that, right, Yeah, it's like I got slaughtered in

2034
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 2: gambling yesterday, just a blood bat. But you woke up today, right,

2035
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 2: That's right, I did. And it's like, what if that

2036
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 2: was my last day yesterday?

2037
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 3: Exactly, why would you sweat that?

2038
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

2039
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 3: Like, just make the most of.

2040
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 4: Meaning that you have.

2041
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, money comes and goes, life doesn't.

2042
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 2: That's exactly there for once. Yeah, let's go back to

2043
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: I Low. He's got the rest of the sports scene

2044
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 2: that he's gonna let us know about.

2045
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 3: Right now, what's going on?

2046
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 10: I Low, thank Fells, And indeed we repeat our top

2047
01:44:54,840 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 10: story that we passed along to you just moments ago. Oh,

2048
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 10: sad and tragic breaking news in the National Football League,

2049
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 10: as The Athletic TMZ and the Oregonian newspaper all reporting

2050
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 10: a short time ago that Minnesota Vikings rookie cornerback Kyrie

2051
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 10: Jackson was killed in a car crash in his hometown

2052
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 10: of Upper Marlborough, Maryland, at the age of twenty four.

2053
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 10: The Vikings had drafted Jackson just a couple of months

2054
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 10: ago in the fourth round out of Oregon. In fact,

2055
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 10: Kyrie Jackson's head coach at Oregon, Dan Lanning tweeting a

2056
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 10: short time ago quote, Rip Kyrie, love you. At a

2057
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 10: loss for words, I will miss your smile. Great player,

2058
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 10: better person unquote. In Major League Baseball on Friday night,

2059
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 10: the San Diego Padres with a dramatic ten to eight

2060
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 10: win over the Arizona Diamondbacks. San Diego's Jerkson Profar let

2061
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 10: off the bottom of the ninth inning with a home

2062
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 10: run to tie it, and then later in the inning,

2063
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 10: the Padres Manny Machado hit a two run home run

2064
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 10: to win it in front of a Petco Park record

2065
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 10: crowd of forty seven, one hundred and seventy one. Will

2066
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 10: Smith of the Los Angeles Dodgers hit three home runs

2067
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 10: and an eight to five win over the Milwaukee Brewers.

2068
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 10: In the NBA, ESPN reports free agent forward Caleb Martin

2069
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 10: finalizing a deal with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

2070
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: Coming up at the.

2071
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 3: Top of the hour.

2072
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 10: In soccer, the quarter final round of Euro twenty twenty

2073
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 10: four continues as Anglin goes up against Switzerland.

2074
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 3: Fellas back to you, thank you, I Low.

2075
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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2076
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,160
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2077
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,920
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2078
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,400
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2079
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,000
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2080
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,960
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2081
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2082
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:53,840
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2083
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 3: So fellas to put a bow on.

2084
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 2: We were talking about the honeymoon phase with NFL quarterback

2085
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 2: and it is wild where there aren't too many quarterbacks,

2086
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 2: where we don't have high expectations, maybe unreasonable expectations, where

2087
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna get criticized heavily if they don't put up

2088
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 2: individual numbers or have a deep playoff run. So our

2089
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 2: list right now, our working list. We've got Jaden Daniels,

2090
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 2: rookie with the Washington Commanders. He's still in the honeymoon phase, right,

2091
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 2: We're not expecting huge production individually right out of the gate. Also,

2092
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Love c. J. Stroud both great seasons last year.

2093
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 2: It buys them some wiggle room, right, they have a

2094
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: longer leash in terms of us demanding and expecting if

2095
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 2: they fall short. I like yours rich with Patrick Mahomes.

2096
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you a couple of borderline guys. I think

2097
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson. I was thinking of him sorta

2098
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: in the honeymoon phase, but getting hurt for both the

2099
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 2: last season. We're gonna need to see some results pretty soon.

2100
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 2: It's a fourth overall pick, and I think Will Levis also. Yeah,

2101
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: heading into the draft, many people it's very critical of

2102
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: that guy. So it's not like if he stinks it

2103
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 2: up to begin this season, no one's gonna be like, hey, hey,

2104
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 2: hold on, give him a chance. He hasn't started many games.

2105
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be like I told you, it was

2106
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 2: a bump. I don't think he's in the honeymoon phase either.

2107
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 2: So we've got five quarterbacks in the entire NFL that

2108
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 2: are in the honeymoon phase where they're not facing harsh criticism.

2109
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 2: Should they falter a little bit, that's wild when you

2110
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 2: think twenty seven starting quarterbacks are not in the honeymoon

2111
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 2: phase whatsoever.

2112
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, when you are a league that depends on

2113
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 6: good play at that position, the stakes are so high,

2114
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 6: you really it makes sense when you really think about it.

2115
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 6: These quarterbacks are so important and they're getting paid so

2116
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 6: much money. When you look at the percentage of the

2117
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 6: salary cap compared to the rest of the team, the

2118
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 6: rest of the players on the roster. I mean, of course,

2119
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 6: the honeymoon period is so brief for some of these guys,

2120
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,879
Speaker 6: Like you think about even guys who are reinventing themselves

2121
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 6: with new teams, like a Russell Wilson or Justin Fields

2122
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 6: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, like a Kirk Cousins with an

2123
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 6: Atlanta Falcons. I mean, the honeymoon phase for Kirk Cousins

2124
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 6: ended within a month. They signed him as a free

2125
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 6: agent to a big contract, and then they drafted a

2126
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 6: quarterback what eighth or ninth overall? They traded up to

2127
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 6: get Pennix Junior.

2128
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 4: I mean it's like, what do we like?

2129
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 6: So there there is no honeymoon phase really, because if

2130
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 6: you're bad enough early enough in your time with the team,

2131
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 6: they're coming for you because everybody understands the great responsibility,

2132
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 6: including the quarterbacks of that position.

2133
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Penix is in the honeymoon phase, right because

2134
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 3: maybe here you.

2135
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 7: Go, yeah, two quarterbacks in Atlanta may maybe it's easier

2136
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 7: for us to talk about the quarterbacks that are in.

2137
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 3: The divorce phase.

2138
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 7: Like if you stink for one week or one month,

2139
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 7: you are getting benched, slashed, replaced. I'll give you one,

2140
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 7: and maybe it's not as short of a time horizon,

2141
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 7: but he is clearly the most I guess Lightning Rod

2142
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 7: polarizing quarterback in the NFL right now? Is Brock purty?

2143
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 7: Like it seems like we can't make up our mind.

2144
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 7: Is Brock getting a longer leash or is he on

2145
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 7: such a like I don't really know because there's such

2146
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 7: a vast ray of opinions on him, if he would

2147
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 7: even be on one side of the eye or the other.

2148
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not in the divorce phase with him yet.

2149
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 2: He's certainly a polarizing couple's therapy maybe maybe maybe.

2150
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: Something like that.

2151
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 2: But I like what you're saying, Jared is Yeah, there

2152
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 2: are some quarterbacks that were close to the divorce phase.

2153
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure Giants fans want to divorce themselves from Daniel

2154
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 2: Jones right, Like there's some quarterbacks from Saints fans. I

2155
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 2: don't think they're that Derek Carr is a beloved figure, Like,

2156
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 2: there are plenty of teams that would gladly get rid

2157
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 2: of or divorce their quarterback. Hey, real fast, I want

2158
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 2: to throw a story of your way. This is one

2159
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 2: of my favorite stories in sports history. So this involves

2160
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 2: Jude Benningham.

2161
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 3: He plays for England.

2162
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 2: He's a soccer player, Okay, he's the guy who made

2163
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 2: that crazy bicycle kick wild yes against Slovakia, and so

2164
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 2: what happened in that match? UEFA investigated because he made

2165
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 2: a leude gesture towards Slovakia's bench during the match, yes,

2166
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 2: and they looked into it. They're like, what's going on here?

2167
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to be graphic, but just the way

2168
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Speaker 2: everybody knows what he did because I'm like, what do

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01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 2: you do? Was the he made like an oral sex

2170
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: gesture and he's looking at the Slovakian bench, and so

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01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,680
Speaker 2: they did this investigation.

2172
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 3: He put on social media. He was like, oh, it

2173
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 3: was an inside joke.

2174
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 2: Gesture toward close friends who were at the game. I

2175
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,560
Speaker 2: just happened to be looking at Slovakia's bench. But no,

2176
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 2: it's my buddies in Row five. It's just this inside joke.

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01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: So YUEFA looked into it and they suspended him for

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01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 2: one match. But he's eligible to play today against Switzerland.

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01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 2: He just has to serve this like one game suspension

2180
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 2: sometime within the next year.

2181
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 7: Matches for England are like the biggest matches ever.

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01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah today, semis, I just love the excuse and thankfully

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01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: UEFA didn't buy it.

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01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 3: By goodness, that's worse than the dog ate my homework.

2185
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:52:54,360 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 6: I remember one time there was a touchdown celebration was

2187
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 6: happening every time a certain player I played with scored,

2188
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 6: and I and I I don't want to I don't

2189
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 6: know if it was ever discussed publicly, so.

2190
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 4: I don't want try to think of who it was.

2191
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 6: Was on the Patriots, and and it was one of

2192
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 6: those where it was very obvious to all of us

2193
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 6: what he was doing, but maybe not to the rest

2194
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 6: of the people who are watching the games. And eventually,

2195
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 6: I'm fairly certain a coach came and was like, hey, listen,

2196
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 6: I know what you're doing, and you gotta stop it

2197
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 6: because this is eventually going.

2198
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 3: To get whatever feel this.

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01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 6: Yeah and so and so I remember I remember having

2200
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 6: a discussion like, you know, kind of like on the side, like,

2201
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 6: so you're gonna you're gonna stop doing it, and he

2202
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 6: was like no, no, And he really did it.

2203
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 4: It was great.

2204
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 6: I mean, it was I mean, and it was subtle

2205
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 6: enough that had kind of gotten you know, lost in

2206
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 6: the shuffle, but I mean it made highlight reels like

2207
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 6: there would be Ye, there would be games where you know,

2208
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 6: like kind of the coming attractions for the game. You

2209
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 6: you would see this celebration and I would be like,

2210
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, like you know, because once, once there's

2211
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 6: an awareness that's beyond just the player and a small

2212
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 6: group of people. But yeah, it's it's interesting man. You know,

2213
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:19,560
Speaker 6: there are certain things you could get away with, but

2214
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 6: other things are way too.

2215
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,600
Speaker 2: There's been a couple of times, I'm thinking where the

2216
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 2: league is cracked down. Marshawn Lynch has done this where

2217
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 2: he kind of yeah, grabbed his area while he's diving

2218
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 2: into the end zone.

2219
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 3: He's gotten fined for that.

2220
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 2: Remember Sam Cassell years ago where you would hit a

2221
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 2: big shot and he would do the big wavos thing.

2222
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 3: What about Randy Moss when he pulled down his face. Yeah,

2223
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 3: a disgusting act.

2224
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2225
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 3: They let Joel Embi do the the Generation X thing.

2226
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah that one.

2227
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 2: They don't have an issue with that. So and what's

2228
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 2: the thing with remember Key and Peel did a sketch

2229
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: on this. Oh yeah, yeah, you can't do like the

2230
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: pelvic thrusts. Yeah, you do like one or two pumps,

2231
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 2: but not three pumps or something like that. Right, it's

2232
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: a whole thing. It's a real thing in the NFL.

2233
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 2: Crazy all right. We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State,

2234
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 2: All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian No

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01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 2: coming up next, rapid fire Picks. We will lay him

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01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 2: out for you. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

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01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Props to the crew, our

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01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: trusted producer, Bo Benson, Chris Purfet, technical producer, Isaac Lohenkron,

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Speaker 2: crushing the updates, crushing life. Top of the hour, up

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Speaker 2: on game, LeVar Arrington, t J. Hushman's out of Plexicico Burras.

2242
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out LeVar Arrington junior choosing Penn State. Yes,

2243
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: how cool is that? Like as he had offers from

2244
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: UCLA and Tennessee. He's gonna follow his dad's footsteps go.

2245
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 4: To Penn State.

2246
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: That so much, really cool story, absolutely cool. So shout

2247
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 2: out to LaVar and his son. Really cool stuff. Shout

2248
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: out to plaques. His son is gonna play at Notre

2249
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: Dame right, oh yeah, so really cool stuff right there?

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Speaker 3: All right, we got some picks to make.

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01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 8: Rapid fire.

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01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we start with you.

2254
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 4: What are you thinking?

2255
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do any worse than last week? Oh

2256
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 3: and three?

2257
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 7: All three nerfe's failed miserably. Still thirty one and twenty

2258
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 7: six though since the Super Bowl so above five hundred.

2259
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 7: Hopefully we keep things rolling another month or so until

2260
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 7: we get the footy, the real footy back. I'll give

2261
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 7: you two nerfees today. Seems like Saturdays are like really

2262
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 7: high run scoring days in baseball, so we'll reduce the

2263
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 7: Nerfy allocation today to just two.

2264
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 3: We'll go White Sox Marlins right out of the gate.

2265
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 7: Garrett Crochet's on the mountain enough said he is having

2266
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 7: an unbelievable season seventeen and one to the nerfe Yanni

2267
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 7: Chirinos on the other side, don't love that. But the

2268
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 7: White Sox stinks, so hopefully they'll go top of the

2269
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 7: first score list. Houston, minnesot We'll go nurfy here. Hunter Brown,

2270
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 7: Joe Ryan, good pitching matchup, but Houston without Jose Altuve

2271
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 7: today got nicked in the hand last night, hit by

2272
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 7: pitch not in the lineup.

2273
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 3: It was just released about twenty minutes ago. Noel Tuve

2274
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 3: at the top. I'll take after a.

2275
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 7: Ridiculous thirteen to twelve game between these two teams last night,

2276
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 7: hopefully lower scoring today and we get a higher scoring match,

2277
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 7: hopefully the afternoon match in the euro Netherlands Turkey.

2278
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 3: We're going over two and a half.

2279
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 7: So the Nerfy White Sox Marlins Nerfy Astros Twins over

2280
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 7: two and a half Netherlands Turkey today.

2281
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 6: Okay, I actually kind of built the same game parlay

2282
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 6: by accident, but here goes nothing. San Diego Padres at

2283
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 6: Arizona Diamondbacks back to the weld.

2284
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 4: Here, I'm gonna go total total runs scored seven and

2285
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 4: a half. I'm taking the under. There fireworks last night

2286
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 4: at Pectal Park.

2287
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a stingure day from the

2288
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 6: mound for both of these pitchers, especially because Matt Waldron's

2289
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 6: out there. Although I'm gonna take the under because they

2290
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 6: gotta be careful with the rotation. Darvish has been injured,

2291
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 6: so is Joe Musgrove. So I think it's gonna be

2292
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 6: an early hook for Matt Waldron unless he's pitching exceptionally well.

2293
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take the under seventeen and a half outs.

2294
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 6: He's only made it outside of the fifth inning, or

2295
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 6: I should say he has made it outside of the

2296
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 6: fifth inning eight of his seventeen starts. So it's about

2297
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 6: a fifty to fifty proposition whether he will or not.

2298
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 6: Rough's rough finish to the month of June, though, So

2299
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 6: I'm taking the under there and then Luis Arise. If

2300
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 6: you pay attention to how often he gets on base

2301
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 6: with hits, it's like it happens in waves. He has

2302
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 6: three good games and then one bad game. Three good

2303
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 6: games and then one bad game. We're in the bad

2304
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 6: game territory. So I'm gonna take the under one and

2305
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 6: a half bases earned on hits for Luis alright. So

2306
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 6: that's under the seventeen and a half outs for Matt Waldron,

2307
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 6: under the one and a half hits or bases on

2308
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 6: hits for Luis Arise, and under the total number of

2309
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 6: runs in the game between the Diamondbacks and the Padres

2310
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 6: seven and a half.

2311
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 3: Good stuff. I like how you laid it out anything

2312
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 3: with the marine layer.

2313
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 4: Though, Oh, Jack Green, you always got a factor in

2314
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 4: the always.

2315
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh keep that in mind, all right, man.

2316
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 2: The Yankees have been freaking all terrible ever since June fifteenth.

2317
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 2: They have the worst record, they have the worst run differential,

2318
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: they have the worst ERA. And before June fifteenth, it

2319
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 2: was best, best, best. It's insane what has happened with

2320
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 2: the Yankees. But the line today against the Red Sox

2321
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 2: thinks to me they are heavily favored. Garrett cole Is

2322
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: on the mound, I get it, but he's just coming

2323
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 2: back to form. To me, I'm expecting the Yankees offense

2324
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 2: to show up here. I'm going to dare to be great.

2325
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking over four and a half runs scored by

2326
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: the Yankees today against the Red Sox.

2327
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 3: I think they break out of their funk a little bit.

2328
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at the Cleveland Guardians tough one last night,

2329
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 2: oh for eleven with runners in scoring position, they break out.

2330
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm taking them over four and a half runs scored today,

2331
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 2: and I'm also taking them on the money line against

2332
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Give me the Guardians tough at home minus

2333
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 2: one thirty today. I like double dipping with them quite

2334
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 2: a bit excellently.

2335
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 7: Do you think seven more Saturdays till college parlay everything together?

2336
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 4: You know?

2337
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 3: Eleven more thirty seven hundred. Everybody, have a great day.

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Speaker 3: We will catch you soon. Enjoy your Saturday here on Fox.