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Speaker 1: We're back with another edition of Big Blue Kick Off

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmolk. Demand to my left is Jeff

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Speaker 1: Every Friday smoke Happy Friday. Indeed, And this is the

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Speaker 1: last weekend before the NFL combine. I'm out in the

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Speaker 1: air on Tuesday, heading out to Indianapolis. So Jeff and

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Speaker 1: or rather Paul and Lance will do Monday show next

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Speaker 1: week and then you'll Lance will do some type of

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Speaker 1: show for Tuesday. We have to take the equipment before

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Speaker 1: we go live on Tuesday at noon. So you guys

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Speaker 1: about the pre record something. We're gonna figure that app

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Speaker 1: that's kind of a tv D deal. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think you are, because you know that will handle what

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Speaker 1: we need to handle. And I know you'll be here

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Speaker 1: when you need to be here, so Friday, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: and and we've talked a lot about Frenzie Jeff, So

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Speaker 1: I thought today might be a good data a pivot

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Speaker 1: to the draft a little bit. And it's funny we

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Speaker 1: kind of get combine, a little bit of a break,

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Speaker 1: then right into free agency, you know, only about a

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Speaker 1: week later. So there really is no time to breathe

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Speaker 1: here for these NFL teams as they move forward and

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Speaker 1: the scouts have been here, they're doing their pre combined meetings,

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Speaker 1: kind of figuring out where a preliminary everybody kind of is.

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Speaker 1: And everyone understands these players so they know what to

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Speaker 1: look for before we get into specifically this draft class.

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Speaker 1: For you, as a player, what do you think the

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Speaker 1: most important things are that you get out of something

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Speaker 1: like the NFL combined as a as a player coming

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Speaker 1: into the league. Yeah, whatever, Well, I think these young guys,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I've said this before to me,

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Speaker 1: the combine whether you want to throw or you don't

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Speaker 1: want to throw, or you don't want to lift or

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Speaker 1: you don't want to if you want to lift, what

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Speaker 1: to me, it's a it's a time that the players

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Speaker 1: can get in front of their coaches and the and

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Speaker 1: the general managers and those interviews. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: it was Josina Anderson reported this morning that Dwayne Haskins

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Speaker 1: will throw with the combo. That is good. We don't

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Speaker 1: know about Calamari yet. And because a lot of times

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Speaker 1: they're they're there's guys that don't throw out the combine

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Speaker 1: and they'll throw out their pro day. But for me,

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Speaker 1: it's those interviews. It's those fifteen minute interviews that they

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Speaker 1: get with these guys and they can really spend some good,

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Speaker 1: good valuable time with them as much as they can

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Speaker 1: and kind of figure them out a little bit because

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Speaker 1: they have so much information about them when they go

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Speaker 1: and talk to them, they can't get it all out

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Speaker 1: of them in fifteen minutes. But it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: good barometer. I think the other thing too, if um

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Speaker 1: I've got to perform in that meeting, and i gotta

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Speaker 1: be you know, And a lot of them are coached,

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Speaker 1: they're coached by their agents, they're coach you know, what

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Speaker 1: to say, what not to say. Um, So that's an

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Speaker 1: very important thing. And then on the field, the field

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Speaker 1: see a lot of time, John, when you've seen guys

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Speaker 1: just the way it is every single year. But from

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Speaker 1: I have an opportunity. It's a great it's a great

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Speaker 1: you get You've got a few dozen players or two

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Speaker 1: It's more to me watching them on film and game

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Speaker 1: they're freakish athletes anyways. Um. But so collectively, I think

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Speaker 1: certain positions. I'm sure we'll talk a little bit about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: how about that, Jeff, we actually have a pull up

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Speaker 1: you are all over this today on the Giants Twitter

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Speaker 1: feed at Giants, what position group are you most excited

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Speaker 1: old line D line at twelve percent, quarterback at six

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Speaker 1: and other at only four percent. I voted for other,

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Speaker 1: So did you really yeah, just to be different four

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they're gonna start talking about Haskins

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Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, I think there is a

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Speaker 1: legitimate Look, he was listed at five ten at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: better forty times tend to do better. But I gravitate

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Speaker 1: He loves to throw that ball on timing. So don't

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Speaker 1: be surprised if you see that again. And you know

429
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Speaker 1: as far as the other stuff is that listen that

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Speaker 1: it's it's all the matter you. Eli will be as

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Speaker 1: good as he can get with the root, with the

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Speaker 1: line that's around him. We know that he can play.

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Speaker 1: He can play. The offensive line got a lot better

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Speaker 1: at the at the second half of the season. They

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Speaker 1: got a running game going, which made a whole big

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Speaker 1: difference to m Yeah, and I think Ben McAdoo when

437
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Speaker 1: he changed delies Uh from what he was a drop

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Speaker 1: back quarterback and went to the shotgun to the west coast,

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Speaker 1: Helie had to change his mechanics in terms of footwork,

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Speaker 1: and some of those things were good. I think it

441
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Speaker 1: helped improve him, but he lost sight of what made

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Speaker 1: Eli a potential Hall of Fame candidate after two thousand

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Speaker 1: twelve two thousand fourteen, So he took the eye off

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Speaker 1: the ball. I think on that, Hey, look, Mark, we

445
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Speaker 1: talked about it when when you go to that like

446
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Speaker 1: traditional hardcore West Coast offense, it wasn't something that Manning

447
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Speaker 1: had done a lot of allier in his career. So

448
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of different things that he was

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Speaker 1: asked to do that he did he didn't do when

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Speaker 1: he was playing his basketball. Yeah, and he had and

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Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, he had one of his

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Speaker 1: better years in his career in that offense. But I

453
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Speaker 1: think the the opposition caught up to it, and that's

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Speaker 1: really what the problem was in the offensive line collapse.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to one of the points I made

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Speaker 1: in there, John about leading the NFC East in scoring,

457
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Speaker 1: I made a bold prediction back in August, and you

458
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Speaker 1: recorded it on the back of a piece of paper.

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Speaker 1: Did you happen to keep that? Um boy? I went

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Speaker 1: through bold predictions right after the season was over, and

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Speaker 1: I must I probably gave you credit for it, because

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Speaker 1: I did throw that sheet of paper away, because because

463
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Speaker 1: as Jeff knows, I I do track all those. I

464
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Speaker 1: hadn't hanging up here, but I went through all those

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Speaker 1: probably about a month ago. Which one was it? Mark uh,

466
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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy points and five games over thirty points,

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Speaker 1: not winning all of those games. And you hit it.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah, I missed it by one point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and and and I would say they scored thirty

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Speaker 1: points one. They scored thirty points around four times over

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Speaker 1: the course of the year. Oh, they did do it

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Speaker 1: five times three. That's Mark, right, excellent work. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a little chest popping here after I get

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Speaker 1: off the phone. Okay, we would love for you to

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Speaker 1: make up a prediction for two thousand nineteen. That's a

476
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Speaker 1: little early for that little early. Keep think about it

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Speaker 1: some time. Give some time. Mark, Just do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: Don't strain your shoulder. You back trying to pack yourself

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Speaker 1: on the shoulder. Okay, okay, be careful. That's a good

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Speaker 1: job though. And I I do vaguely remember that call.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure I did have a written down on

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Speaker 1: the Bowl prediction sheet when I when I went through

483
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Speaker 1: that about predictions pretty quickly. You go through him and

484
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Speaker 1: then throw them out. You should keep him up there.

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Speaker 1: We make seasons over. We know what it is for

486
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Speaker 1: callers like Mark. Do you want to come back and

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Speaker 1: see if it was on the board. Fine, I can

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Speaker 1: do that. It's Okay, you guys know if you made

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Speaker 1: him or not. Yes, of course they can just call

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Speaker 1: up and lie. That's I remember that. Sure, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Charlie when we get him on, you'll have a

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Speaker 1: ball prediction for us. Yeah, Anthony Dobboy is going to

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Speaker 1: be on the falcons. Where is Anthony Dobbley today? Somewhere

494
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Speaker 1: in Paris? I'm sure eating a christ the Eiffel Tower today.

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Speaker 1: Hard to revive you. That Big Blue Kickoff Live is

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Speaker 1: presented by cores Light Download the Cores like wars up

497
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Speaker 1: to an Amazing Giant's prizes. Charlie's on the line, but

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Speaker 1: he's not next, so we go to Jack and Queen's instead. Jack,

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Speaker 1: what's going out? Val? Hey, what's going on? Um? I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about PFF a little bit. Sure, um So,

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Speaker 1: I just like, I know you guys are talking about

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Speaker 1: like using sort of statistics and that sort of stuff

503
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Speaker 1: as like a supplement to your like analysis or I

504
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Speaker 1: just want to make an argument for having that the

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Speaker 1: that should be the focus of like a fans uh

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Speaker 1: sort of positions on on what's going on with the giants?

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Speaker 1: Like explain what do you mean I think they watched

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Speaker 1: like eighteen hours. They spent eighteen hours on every game.

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Speaker 1: They do every game, so like it gives you some

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Speaker 1: context for what's happening. And granted Eli is the probably

511
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback within three miles of Giant Stadium, but

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Speaker 1: you know he's like seventh worst from the clean pocket,

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Speaker 1: he's second words under pressure's fifth worst. Jack Jack Jack Jack.

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Speaker 1: We we Jack, we have quarterback Jack Jack. At about

515
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Speaker 1: three weeks ago we had Sam Monson for Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus on we talked about just all those statistics. We

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Speaker 1: had them only talked about it. No, I totally I

518
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Speaker 1: totally agree. I totally agree, but I think that it's

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Speaker 1: I think that we should as fans sort of we

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Speaker 1: have our own personal scouting department and that should be

521
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Speaker 1: our focus and then we can use other things that

522
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Speaker 1: we see and like our opinions should add to that

523
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Speaker 1: as opposed to that being the foundation. Well absolutely look

524
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Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus watches every play of every game,

525
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Speaker 1: and that's why what they do is valuable, especially for

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Speaker 1: guys that I don't have the time to watch. For that,

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Speaker 1: free agents that I don't see, um, you know, things

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Speaker 1: of that nature. But I literally sit down for three

529
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Speaker 1: hours every month and I watch every single play on

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Speaker 1: coach's tape of every Giant's game, So I feel like

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Speaker 1: I have a pretty good feel for what you I

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Speaker 1: can do, Um. And look, I'll say the same thing

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Speaker 1: I said at the end of the year, and it's

534
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Speaker 1: very simple right now, Eli Manning is a quarterback. You

535
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Speaker 1: can win with it. The conditions around him are ideal

536
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Speaker 1: and they're correct, and then he can do his thing

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Speaker 1: and you can win. Now, what's the ceiling for that?

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Speaker 1: You know, are you still capable of putting enough things

539
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Speaker 1: around him where you can get where you want to go?

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question to ask, Um. Do

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Speaker 1: you have to find a replacement for him? Absolutely? What

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Speaker 1: are the other options to find a replacement for him?

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Speaker 1: This offseason? You have the draft, which we've worked, which

544
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, and then you have free agency, which,

545
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, you don't have guys that are much,

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Speaker 1: if at all better. I don't think Nick Foles is

547
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Speaker 1: a huge upgrade. I don't think training for case Keenam

548
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Speaker 1: is a huge upgrade. Uh, Teddy Bridgewater's name, who knows.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what he's going to be if he plays,

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Speaker 1: So I think you have to search for your replacement,

551
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Speaker 1: but you have to make sure when you get that replacement,

552
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Speaker 1: he's the right guy, you know what I mean. I

553
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Speaker 1: guess I just I don't buy the argument you can

554
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Speaker 1: win with the you know, third worst quarterback in football. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's Jack. He's not the third

556
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Speaker 1: worst quarterback. He's the third wors in certain situations, but overall.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, I I just think that,

558
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Speaker 1: like without with the context, without like I mean, the context.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna say that, I mean, if there's any

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Speaker 1: other group that does this sort of analysis, like I'm

561
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Speaker 1: totally down, but like TFF is the only one I

562
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Speaker 1: know about, and they consistently have him as one of

563
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Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in football. Well, Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack Jack.

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Speaker 1: I have some simple questions for you. Would you rather

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Speaker 1: have Eli Manning for a one year deal for twenty

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Speaker 1: five million nick Foles for three years and sixty five million?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would definitely want Folds and

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Speaker 1: you draft again, No, but then you're no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: but Jack with Jack, but Jack, but Jack. Then you're

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Speaker 1: paying Nick Foles twenty two million a year for three

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Speaker 1: more years, and you drafted a guy in the first

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Speaker 1: round to play quarterback for you. How does that make

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Speaker 1: any sense? I mean I would, I would personally want

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Speaker 1: to draft somebody, but I mean, regard, I don't have

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Speaker 1: the answers. I don't know anything, but like it just

576
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Speaker 1: like you're losing. Like his grades track with how well

577
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Speaker 1: the Giants? Did you know? He's the fifth best in

578
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Speaker 1: two thousands in eleven and he's been the bottom five

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Speaker 1: for the last four or five years and they've lost.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, Jack, You're right, but you have but

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Speaker 1: you have to figure out what. No, No, it's not

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Speaker 1: that simple because you still have to replace him once

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Speaker 1: you get rid of them. It isn't it isn't you

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Speaker 1: just get rid of them and then magically you have

585
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: a better quarterback. Right, But the bar, the bar is

586
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Speaker 1: pretty low. I mean, he's one of the worst quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in football, like arguably, Like you can say, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see Jack, Jack, see the argument Jack. For For example,

589
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Speaker 1: they had Blake Bortles rated about as an equal quarterback

590
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Speaker 1: to Eli Manning. I watched both quarterbacks extensively. I disagree

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Speaker 1: with that analysis. I have so much respect for what

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Speaker 1: they do over there. I love the guys. They do

593
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Speaker 1: great work. That to me is poppy cock. It's nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Blake. He's terrible, busy, he's not accurate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look look at his overall numbers. His efficiency is interceptions,

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Speaker 1: just raw statistics, and then you watch him. Blake Bortles

597
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Speaker 1: can read defenses, go through multiple progressions and make the

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Speaker 1: type of big time throws that Manning does on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis. He can't. Um, Yeah, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: I get and like I I just watched the Giants,

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Speaker 1: so like, you know, I mean I don't get to

602
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Speaker 1: watch that much other football. But I mean they they

603
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Speaker 1: say that he doesn't throw. I mean they had Bortles

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Speaker 1: at eight for turnover word these plays and Eli was

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. So I mean, like the context of like,

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Speaker 1: I know, everyone says he's bad, but like as far

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Speaker 1: as like if that's Jack Jack, check hi Jack, I

608
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Speaker 1: understand you're you're literally rehashing something. A guy from PFF

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Speaker 1: said to us on an interview. What's what's what? What's

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Speaker 1: the answer. But let's not look backwards, let's look forward.

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Speaker 1: What's the solution. What's the answer. I mean, you've draft

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or Dwayne Haskins. What if they don't think

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Speaker 1: they're good or worth first round picks when when they

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Speaker 1: evaluate them, I mean, I guess, I mean again, I

615
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Speaker 1: don't know enough to know that, but I mean what

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Speaker 1: my question is is how do you win? What teams

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Speaker 1: win with quarterbacks that are in the bottom the league. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars did go to the FC champions Game last year,

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Speaker 1: but U or two years ago? But yes, that's an anomaly.

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Speaker 1: And Jack, I wanted them to say a draft, Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: So you're preaching to the choir. So I'm sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to be no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: You're fine, Jack. It's you make good points. Is a

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Speaker 1: good call. But we try to evaluate every possible situation here.

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Speaker 1: Jeff and I both a great Eli man is gonna

626
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Speaker 1: be thirty eight years old. You have to figure out

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Speaker 1: what's next at the position. It's a simple fact. There's

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Speaker 1: no arguing that Eli Manning is not the player he

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Speaker 1: was in two thousand and eleven. No one's arguing that

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Speaker 1: he requires a lot of help in order to be successful.

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Speaker 1: No one's arguing that. But it's not just get rid

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Speaker 1: of Eli and then figure it out, because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get locked into a quarterback that I don't

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Speaker 1: think I can win with on a multily multi year,

635
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Speaker 1: big money contract when even if he might be slightly

636
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Speaker 1: better than Eli. I would rather try to find somebody

637
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Speaker 1: that is going to be your next Eli Manning when

638
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Speaker 1: Eli was in his prime, and go after that guy.

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00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: And if that means staying with Eli in a one

640
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: year contract, why you try to find the next right guy?

641
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: That to me is better than investing in a guy

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: that might be a slight improvement, but you have to

643
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: invest a ton of money in and then you're stuck

644
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: being invested in that guy who maybe he's not that

645
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: good either, and you can't go get your next franchise quarterback.

646
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: So that's the fine line that you're walking here, and

647
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: that's why it can be very very difficult and tricky

648
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: with the way the giants are trying to figure this out,

649
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, totally, And I think

650
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: actually you're totally right. Like I think that some of

651
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: the new stuff they've been putting out is that it's

652
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: really hard to win with an average quarterback. Never never

653
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: never minded below average quarterback. So you should be taking

654
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: moon shots, right, You should be trying to find guys

655
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: who are going to be Jack, you can win with

656
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: an average quarterback if he's on his rookie scale contract,

657
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: but you can't do it if you're paying him all

658
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: the money. That's that's the difference. Who's like over the

659
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: last like ten years or you say five years, what

660
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: average below average quarterback is won a super Bowl or

661
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: even gotten to I mean, I guess you could say

662
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Bortles right normally, Jack, You're right. Jack, You're right, Jack,

663
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: You're you are correct, and pro football focus is trying

664
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: to tell you what you're saying, and you believe it.

665
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. Okay, if you're going to go

666
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: out as two things. Number One, you cannot win super

667
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Bowls with a mediocre quarterback period. I can tell you

668
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: that right now. It's not gonna work. Okay. However, you

669
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: can win a super Bowl or go to the playoffs

670
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: with a team that can support your quarterback by having

671
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: a running game and receivers. A guy like Eliac doesn't

672
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: that can play if he has a good line and

673
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: complete can still play. Okay, and he can have that

674
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: one year. But if you're gonna say that to me

675
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have him, I'm gonna keep him, then

676
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: that's your philosophy going forward. You're gonna find this out

677
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: very soon. Free agency starts real quick, and if the

678
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: Giants don't go after a quarterback, then we're gonna go

679
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: to the draft. If the Giants don't draft somebody, you

680
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: know the theory. Now we're gonna see I'm getting so

681
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: pro football focus can focus all they want with what

682
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: what mediocre quarterback at this and that it all depends

683
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: in the philosophy of the guys that are above above

684
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: is right now that are gonna say, we're gonna go

685
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: with this guy because we believe still believe in him. Okay,

686
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: is he gonna Is he gonna play like you know?

687
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: Is he gonna play like Tom Brady? Maybe? Who knows?

688
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: But the fact is that he's not going to be

689
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. I can tell you that

690
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: right now, he will not be the worst in the league.

691
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: You look at what he did last season in the

692
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: second half of the year. Go look at his pro

693
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: football focus off at the second half of the season.

694
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: It'll be a lot different than what you than the

695
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: whole year combined. And I don't know if that makes

696
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: sense to you, but I'm just telling you. We can

697
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: talk about all we want, but it's the philosophy of

698
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: the team where they're going forward. And John says it

699
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: and we both agree to it. They need to go

700
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: forward with the new quarterbacks. Sooner or later, they have

701
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: to do it. But they gotta believe in the guys

702
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: that they're gonna go get this year. And and unequivocally

703
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: this is our guy. If we're gonna go get them,

704
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: we're getting them and we are going with them, not nine.

705
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: It's got to be a believing in those guys. And

706
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna find that out really quickly. Thank you, Jack,

707
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Thank you Jack. Good points. Yeah, you're welcome, man, And look,

708
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: we understand where you're coming from. It's hard. Absolutely everybody

709
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: has an opinion at this point in time. And by

710
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: the way, I I firmly believe. But you know, we

711
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: can form all our are we want our opinions about

712
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: these young guys, but until we actually get a little

713
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: bit more information on on how they actually do with

714
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: the combine and their and their pro days and their

715
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: interviews and things like that, we're just going basically off

716
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: of college statistics and what they do in college from

717
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback physician, you know, and listen, I believe I

718
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: still do believe in Eli and I tell you I

719
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: think I think he can still play at a at

720
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: a very very high level. Maybe not, but I think

721
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: that he can what this team is trying to do.

722
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: I think he can continue to do it for at

723
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: least another year to a one five, one three. Let's

724
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: go to Mike and Pennsylvania is up next, Mike, what's

725
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: going on? Pal? Hey? Jack? Answer question? Nick Folds and

726
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco? But John, Jeff, how are we going? Happy Friday?

727
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: You know what? Actually, you know what? That's a good point.

728
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't. You're right, fools. I think is an average quarterback.

729
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl Flacco. Here's the thing with

730
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Flacco overall, I agree, I think he's an average quarterback,

731
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: but that particular year he played much better than an

732
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: average quarterback. But it's one of those kind of those

733
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: aberration years. And know what I'm saying, Like even a

734
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: blind squirrel finds anyway, we even go back to the

735
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: Ravens with Dilfer exactly where years ago. Go ahead, Sorry,

736
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: all right, as it stands right now, in addition to

737
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: any depth and rotational players, we need a right tackle,

738
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: right guard, second pass rusher, a free safety and strong safety. Um,

739
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: and we only have twenty seven million in cap this year,

740
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: and we also need a plan for you life successor,

741
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: and you might need a linebacker two. Well yeah, I

742
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: mean well you're right though. I'm here you, I'm with you.

743
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you. And remember that million can change. That

744
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: can go from seven to seven day and depending on

745
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: what happs at Lending Collins how to go up and

746
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: down as well. Right, um, So, I actually think I

747
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: have a pretty viable solution in this scenario that I

748
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: want to run to buy you guys, But it requires

749
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot of dominoes to fall. So I'll try to

750
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: run through the rapid fire. All right, rapid fire, Mike,

751
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: We'll shut up. Go ahead, you can burn it down

752
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: at the end. All right, I'm dead, gentleman. I get

753
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: through the medical and interviews at the combine, put the

754
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: finishing touches on my first round board, and I firmly

755
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: believe this draft class would be legendary in regards to

756
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: the building blocks that are there. But there's no true

757
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: number one right receivers and the quarterback running back crop

758
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: is so part to say the least. So the raiders

759
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: or the packers call and want a deal to first

760
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: round picks this year for ob and a move that

761
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: her over the cap clears up six million with the

762
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar hit and of the captain until I

763
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: think so I take the deal. Next I move O

764
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Vie for maybe a two, maybe a three, maybe a

765
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: Donald pen clear up eleven and a half million this year.

766
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I gotta pause. You aren't getting a second round pick

767
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: for Ovar. No, you might get a fourth or fifth. Okay, well,

768
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: whatever the case, we clear up cap fine, I got you, okay,

769
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: all right? Um, so cleared up close to the overall

770
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: cap in restructure ELI right, So now we have the

771
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: cap space to make the moves we want in free agency.

772
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Have three first round picks this year, a second rounder

773
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: whatever we rough for Obi, and nine day three picks.

774
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Pat Collins resigned, Jaimal Brown because I just dealt O.

775
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: B J resigned, Corey Coleman, Corey Latimer. Now you can

776
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: never replace ob J. But I believe the best retch

777
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: steeper core has involved like a basketball type of roster,

778
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, any mean, like a point guard, shooting guard, forwards,

779
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: your center. All right, so we're already run first offense

780
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: with se Kwan. There's Ingram, Shephard, Coleman, and Latimer. And

781
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: say what you will about Coleman, I believe his ceiling

782
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: can be willfuller without the injuries. Well, he has to

783
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: do it. He has to do it first. Well, it's

784
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: given a chance. I think he he was. He was

785
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: giving plenty of chances in Cleveland. He was giving plenty

786
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: of chances in Cleveland. We are I think the coaching step.

787
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: There's a park here, that's true. Next Yeah, alright, So

788
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: free agency opens up, and four pm on that Wednesday,

789
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone locking up hacking Dicks because both

790
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: him and Collins excelled when they played together in Bama.

791
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Right moved in the meantime, Draft Day comes, taking my

792
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: franchise pass rusher or Devin White with my top ten pick,

793
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: um my other two first round picks, and my second rounder.

794
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm taking the absolute best player available. But one of

795
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: those three are going to be my franchise right tackle.

796
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, And even though there's no consensus

797
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver d Ki dk Metcalf, I don't

798
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: know if you've seen him. The dudes a truck. Yeah,

799
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: he basically looks like a defensive end. He is he's

800
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: like Texico Burris with another forty pounds, right. Uh. Maybe

801
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: t J. Hockenson who looks like Ground Jr. The way

802
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: he plays, He's got a violent tight end. I'm aware.

803
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Now the offensive line solidified, the secondary is locked up

804
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: with Collins Ha Ha Jack Rabbit deal and Haley in

805
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the slot and whatever other depth you picked up and

806
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: free agen see the draft. Uh, you have new pass

807
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: rusher pair with b J. Hill, McIntosh, Tomlinson, Lorenzo Carter,

808
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: who I think is not getting enough credit, but U

809
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: and whoever else you drafted. You have the cap flexibilities

810
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: and maybe the sign of Dante's howl or Shane Ray

811
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: or whatever pass Russia the Eagles have to cut, maybe

812
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Chris Long, maybe Michael Bennett. Uh and what pretty much

813
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: the point is fortified the roster before day three of

814
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: the draft, and you still have nine picks and tons

815
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: of cap room in the future, and all your picks

816
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: get you my successor a lot of dominoes that that's

817
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: that's a lot of dominoes, Like yeah, yeah, but it's

818
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: viable though. Well, it all has to start with the

819
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: first thing you said. Thank you, Mike. We gotta romanum

820
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: good analogy It starts with the first thing. He said,

821
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: you gotta get two first round draft picks. So if

822
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna trade Op J, you're gonna have to get

823
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: a lot for him. Um. The other thing is is

824
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: that you know what are you gonna get for Ovi? Uh?

825
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: You know what we talked about this last week. He

826
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: graded out pretty decently for the season last year. But

827
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: he's making a lot of money. So I know as

828
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: a player, as the next player, when you start making

829
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money, there's things that have to change. Unfortunately, Um,

830
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: they come to you and they ask you to take

831
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: a pay cut, and if you don't decide to do it,

832
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: then they let you go the first try to get

833
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: get something for you. So yeah, there is a lot

834
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: of things in that conversation that have to happen. But

835
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a good you know, there's some good points

836
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: in there. Um, listen, if you're not gonna do after

837
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: quarterback than I think that you know you could you could.

838
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: You couldn't go wrong in my opinion, if you went

839
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: after a good edge rest or or basically a right

840
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: tackle that could eventually become your left tackle. When so

841
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: older gets old enough he doesn't play it anymore. And

842
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the guy from Alabama. Yeah, you can

843
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: move them over. You let jo want Tala from Florida,

844
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Cody Ford from Oklahoma. Those guys more right tackles maybe

845
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: like a little The guy from oh Miss he's not

846
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: a little either. No, he's not. I promise you. Twitter questions,

847
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting to them right now. I have a couple. One.

848
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: This is from Andre Jeff. Do you think it'll be

849
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: easier to package two or more of those fours for

850
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: three or to use them to acquire a veteran player

851
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: on perhaps a bad contract like the Giants did with

852
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: Ala go Will Tree a couple of years ago. Your

853
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Well, my thoughts are, you're gonna have

854
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: to have a little bit more, ammo than two fours

855
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: you get up into the three. We talked about that earlier.

856
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: The other thing is is that bad contracts. You can

857
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: acquire a bad contract somewhere else if you have the

858
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: cap money to do it. Giants don't have a lot

859
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: of that cat money. All right, here we go. This

860
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: one is from yesterday from Booker. I just wanted to

861
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: save this one for you, but I thought it worked.

862
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: But you understand it. No, We spend a lot of

863
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: time talking about the draft and town evaluation. What can

864
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: you tell us about scouts and scouting? What do they do?

865
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: How does their inside informed decision making unlock some of

866
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: the mystery around the role of the scouts. You know,

867
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: what they do is they they want there watching each

868
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Each scout has a region, so there will be one

869
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: guy that's watching the Pacific Northwest and the other guy

870
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: to the southwest isn't. And they particularly watch and go

871
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: to all these games and these schools, and they watched

872
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: the players that they got a grade, the seniors and

873
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: juniors that are gonna coming out, and they put grades

874
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: on them, their own grades. Then collectively they get together

875
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: and they talk about all of their grades, and then

876
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: they compile the list of guys going forward that they

877
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: that they seem to like. They run up by the

878
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: general manager and they and the director of college Scouting.

879
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: That's what they do and then on that's what they're

880
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: doing now. They're they're here talking about all their work

881
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: that they put in this year, about the guys that

882
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: are draftable, and they're in the building going over those

883
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: things now. Dylan Davis Tony Lippett is coming off an injury.

884
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Remember he's coming off an achilles. They signed him mid season.

885
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: He played a little bit last couple of games of

886
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: the year. What can you tell um about him? What

887
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: do you think he's a chance to return to his

888
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: game when he played well for Miami? What do you

889
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: think about him? Jeff, I will say just from what

890
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: we saw him into the year, his speed wasn't back yet,

891
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: not coming off in to show this, you know, coming

892
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: into this season, hopefully that gets a little bit better.

893
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: But you can't have enough cornerbacks, folks. You can't have

894
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: enough depth at that position. So we'll see what happens

895
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: with him. Zach Churno bowlsby like David Sills, wide receiver

896
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: out of West Virginia or is that Virginia attack that Yeah,

897
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: that's West Sales. I've heard of him. He was at

898
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: the combine. Bigger guy, not exactly super fast, but he's

899
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: a good rat runner. He was at the senior bo Yeah,

900
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: Tatino really liked what he saw there. He didn't really

901
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: flash to me. I think, yeah he is. I think

902
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: he's more of a He's more of a third round,

903
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: third day guy. For me, I would not pick up this.

904
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: This draft doesn't have a lot of receivers in it.

905
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: So no, it's funny. You don't have a lot of

906
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: guys at the top, but there are a ton of

907
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: If you want to slock guy, it's a nice draft fee.

908
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: If you want to slock g. Yeah, I mean going

909
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: back to you know, I don't know wh him. Go there, Okay,

910
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, that's okay. I'm just saying in that scenario

911
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: that the guy gave his market, think it was named

912
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna get to draft through to

913
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: first round draft picks for O, B J and one

914
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: of them being like a top ten pick, it has

915
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: to be this is this there there. If there's a

916
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: lot of teams that need wide a number one wide receiver,

917
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a handful of them that have would be able to

918
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: have that draft capital to get into there. So to

919
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: a one nine three nine four five one three. We

920
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: have the term draft capital. Yeah. I like draftic very.

921
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: I think it's very aproposed to what we talk about.

922
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Look every look this is I look at everything. It's

923
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: an asset. A player is an asset, cap space is

924
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: an asset. A draft pick is an asset. Those are

925
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: the three things you have players on your roster calf

926
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: space and draft picks. That's the only way you can

927
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: improve your football team and inquire players. It's how you

928
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: manage all those things together that separate the good gms

929
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: from the not so good gms. Dude, in your high

930
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: first round draft picks, as those are very well, maybe not.

931
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: I think the bitcoin's kind of dipped right, if I'm

932
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I don't really pay attention to it. But yes,

933
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: it was worth a lot of money at one absolutely,

934
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: and look we always you know, you know me, I'm

935
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: a big Nick fan. There's no if the Knicks happened

936
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: to win the draft lottery, there's no better asset maybe

937
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: in the whole league. Spare you know, some of the

938
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: some of the two or three best players than having

939
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: the rights design Williamson. You have the best the best

940
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: player coming out in the last five or six years

941
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: on a rookie scale contract for five seasons. Now, there's

942
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: a four percent chance that happens. But that goes to

943
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: your point. When you pick that high in the draft,

944
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: the value of those assets, because they're almost not the fined,

945
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: you're imagining how good they could be. You know, well,

946
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: what if we get like the next off and Johnson

947
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: with the six pick or the next you know, Joey

948
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: Bosa with the second pick, or the next Fletcher Cox

949
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: or Aaron Donald second pick, whatever, take your pick. You know,

950
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: teams imagine a lot. And the joke is when you

951
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: have the second pick in the draft. Before the draft,

952
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: that pick is so value, but once you make the pick,

953
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: it becomes like half his value before you actually selected

954
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: the player. It just kind of the way it works.

955
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: After the season is over, too, then you're like, oh

956
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: my god, this thing isn't worth nearly what we paid

957
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: for it, I know, And here we go losing his

958
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: mind day. He was not happy. I am happy. It

959
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: wasn't about him. So let's go to Charlie. What's up

960
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: about it? Charles? Hey, guys, Hey, Jeff hy John? Hey,

961
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: just last call? Was he trying to do get rid

962
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: of all our players? I mean, honestly, I'll get rid

963
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: of I lost track of it about half way. Guess

964
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: who's not going to have a number one wide receiver.

965
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: If we get rid of o down, it's gonna be usome. Hey,

966
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: I got a question, plaise John. You know everyone keeps

967
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: worrying about we don't have a third round pick. You

968
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: don't have a third round pick. What I would like

969
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: to know is if Sam Bial was in this draft,

970
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: would he be in the top five cornerbacks draft. I

971
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: don't know that, Charlie, But how about this. I will

972
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: ask at least one of our people next week at

973
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: the combine. I already have like fourteen people booked for

974
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: next week, actually closer to eighteen. I think I will

975
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: make sure I ask one of those at least one

976
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: next week what where they would play Sam Bill in

977
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: this year's because I think that's a very good question,

978
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: believe it or not, because if he is, if he

979
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: is the second rounder, if they're saying yeah, he would

980
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: go in the second round and he's a top five,

981
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: then we got to steal. Yeah. I don't think he is.

982
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Though to me, will you talk to people last year

983
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: people projected him as a third round pick. All right,

984
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: but I'd like to see where he is compared with No,

985
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: I got you, you know, because like I said, if

986
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: if he is as a top five cornerback in this draft,

987
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: and we've got a steal, and that's the thing, you know.

988
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: You know, people say, oh, they don't have a third

989
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: round pick, No they don't, but they are adding a

990
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: player that they didn't have last year in beal, So,

991
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: while it's not being able to pick a new player,

992
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: you are adding a third round value cornerback to the

993
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: roster next year, which you're right, A lot of people

994
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: don't think about had the third round pick. You just

995
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: used it already. Yeah, correct, Charlie. Would you would you trade?

996
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: Would you trade three force for a for a three? Yeah?

997
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: If if? If you know, this is why I look

998
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: at it. Think about it this way. I guarantee you

999
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: that teams that trade away their first round pick, teams

1000
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: that don't have their first round there, like the Saints

1001
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: they traded for the pass rusher last year. You know,

1002
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: they're like, well, then maybe he'll move in a team

1003
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys they traded their first round pick for

1004
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper. They're gonna be pulling their hair out not

1005
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: having a first round pick. Then, like the way we

1006
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: got a number one receiver bause we used the draft

1007
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: pick on him, and then it makes a little bit

1008
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: more sense. Yeah, exactly. Louis Virginia, He's up next, Hello,

1009
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: lou See what's going on? Guys? Was the first time

1010
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: called thanks for chiming in. What's up? Blue? Hey, um well,

1011
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch again on Mr Manning's abilities. Um.

1012
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a well beaten topic, but

1013
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: we can't still win with him. But there's one thing

1014
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: that I'm really curious about. And he's been in the

1015
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: league over ten years and no one has ever tried

1016
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: to pick his mechanics. He's throwing off the back foot

1017
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: is horrible, and it's just it's a competent. It's a

1018
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: constant our receivers make really good because he's not accurate,

1019
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: and if he do properly, he'd be more accurate. That that.

1020
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: That that that, that's been a problem He's had a

1021
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: lot of his career. When he feels pressure and sees pressure,

1022
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: he'll throw off his back foot. Trust Maker, every coach

1023
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: he's had here has tried to fix it. That's just

1024
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: an instant, actual thing with him. It is what it

1025
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: is at this point, at thirty eight, I doubt that's

1026
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: going to change. And speaking of the dog in the background,

1027
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: you can't teach an old dog new trip. That's okay,

1028
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: that was a good It was pretty good. He's he's

1029
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: a big boy too. Anyway. Yeah, I do agree that

1030
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: we need to keep elive for at least another year.

1031
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Uh and and find a replacement. I really like to

1032
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: happen kid because of the height, and he is a

1033
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: true drop back pass and he does have some mobility.

1034
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: Now I know that he doesn't really have a lot

1035
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: of that on him because he only played one year,

1036
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: but I think he's the best in this class. And

1037
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to wait another class

1038
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: before we draft on him, because ELI has been lucky,

1039
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: but everybody's lucky ones at it sometime and I'm not

1040
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: sure if the guy we got behind him is gonna

1041
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: be able to do the job for us. I'll take

1042
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: the rest of this offer. It was really good to

1043
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: finally talk to guys and a great day. He appreciate

1044
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: and give you a big boy, a nice pet behind

1045
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: the years for us, the big dog. I wonder what

1046
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of dog is he had? Should ask? Yeah what?

1047
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: There was a post on Instagram today about the mailman

1048
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: where he puts the mail through the mail slot and

1049
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: his dog absolutely freaks out every time the mailman comes

1050
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: to the door and he gets he gets mad. And

1051
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: the guy was putting the mail through the slot and

1052
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: the dog jumps up and grabs the mail. And just

1053
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: like ripped it the shreds. It's so funny. If I

1054
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: love I love some of the Instagram posts for the

1055
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: pet stuff because they are pretty funny. Um My dog

1056
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: goes crazy for the mailman for two reasons. Number one,

1057
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: he likes them. Number two, the guy gives him treats

1058
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: every time he sees them. So when he hears the

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Speaker 1: mail truck or sees the white mail truck, he freaks out.

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00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: He'll be like taking me down the street in the

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00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: mail The right guy may not even be in the

1062
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: mail truck, so he just still goes after that stupid truck.

1063
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. The dogs are animals are so funny. This

1064
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: is the way that they they reacted. All my dog

1065
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: wants to do is play with everybody. He doesn't have

1066
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: like a mean being his body. All he wants to

1067
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: do is like jump on people like them in French bulldog.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, stubborn son of a gun to Scott and

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Speaker 1: the Brons will be our final callers. That a good afternoon, gentleman.

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Speaker 1: How you doing Okay? First things first, it's have a

1071
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: couple of comments. I've been a long time Giant fan,

1072
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: going back to the Day's friend talking, then some molders

1073
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: dirt that that being said, um, the Giant traditional championship

1074
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: teams have been built on tenacious defense of people's coach

1075
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: and a tough nos quarterback. I think right now Mr

1076
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: Rees is gone wishing well. I think Dave gedlm is

1077
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: going to bring back the physicality of the game that

1078
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: Giants win with. This year's draft is packed with defensive,

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00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: top notch players. If they can make a trade down

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00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: a look at for the first round pick, getting more

1081
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: more picks there and possibly I am bed on the

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00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: names now a gentleman from Duke, A quarterback from Duke

1083
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: I projected to go high up in the draft, but

1084
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: has some good, good skill sets they've been identifying. I

1085
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: think he'd be the project. Keep it eli for two years,

1086
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: build around that. I think he like it's a lot

1087
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: of and I get this guy a ton of credit

1088
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: for his character, what he's gone through, and get him

1089
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: a decent offensive line and he'll and no, you'll see it.

1090
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: Don't tray o g V. Beckham because even though he's

1091
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: a drama queen's use my terminology, he's a great, great athlete,

1092
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: great player. Get everyone under the under the umbrella playing

1093
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: as a team. Use the chemistry or the blueprint fits there,

1094
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: of I love the great coach in Belichick, who was

1095
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: also under the Parcels tree. Build on that, and it's

1096
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna take at least a year or two. It deteriorated

1097
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: a long time. It took a long time to get

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00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: the ship steered in the right direction. They need to

1099
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: move in that direction. It's can happen overnight. I still

1100
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: believe as a diehard Giant fan go into the games

1101
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: and seeing them there and see the play of the game,

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00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: this would has to happen with the team. You know,

1103
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: they've got enough draft picks to make one trade. I'm

1104
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: a a I'm just a major fan of love the game,

1105
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: on that behind the scenes and had that skill set

1106
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: that they do these g gms have. But I think

1107
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Gentleman has a massive blueprint that no one's gonna know

1108
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: until the day of the draft. What's gonna happen. And

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00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna surprise a lot of people. I'd

1110
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: get your view one. Yeah, I think that's possible. I

1111
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: think there's also a chance to see moves made before

1112
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: the draft too, if they want to trade down. And

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00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I think and This was another one of our factor

1114
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: fiction questions. I think it's much more likely that they

1115
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: moved from their spot in this year's draft than it

1116
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: wasn't last year's draft. When you're picking second as a

1117
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: premium player, going and get him, you know, this year

1118
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: there's so many pass worshers. I think there's more than

1119
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: one offensive tackle that's first round worthy. You can move

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00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: down and still get a good player and get something

1121
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: more on top of that. Um So yeah, I think

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00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance you move. But I think

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: that could happen before the draft too. I don't think

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00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that has happened on draft day per se, and if

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Speaker 1: it does happen before the draft, and will know a

1126
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit more going into the draft obviously, But here's

1127
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: here's my philosophy on that, And I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Your philosophy has to be that, okay, we don't We're not.

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00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: We're okay moving down because we don't really believe in

1130
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: any of the picks that we would like at six,

1131
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: but we have to get something, not something we're gonna

1132
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: have to get. They'll get a lot for dropping down.

1133
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: A film were team that wants to come up and

1134
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: get any of those quarterbacks or whoever it is. So,

1135
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: But I actually think that the Giants are gonna sit

1136
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: still at six and pick and pick that defensive player.

1137
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: If they're not going to go quarterback, that's who they're

1138
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: gonna go. They're gonna edge rush. That's my guy. I

1139
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: think I believe. Do you believe the quarterbacks in this

1140
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: draft don't do good? I'm not saying least year's draft,

1141
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: we already know it's gone. Already, we got the best

1142
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: running back for the next you know, staying healthy for

1143
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: next ten years. That I that I go with. But

1144
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: but the quarterback crop from last year, if you want

1145
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: to use that terminology, was phenomenal. I mean, I don't

1146
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: think you compare it this year to last year's. No way,

1147
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: there's no question and post we look at last year's

1148
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: draft that and that was an anomaly for a long

1149
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: time you didn't have that. I would put both Marie

1150
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: and Haskins below the top three guys from last years

1151
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: as long as you're okay when Rosen's health stuff, I

1152
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: would put both guys this year behind those top three

1153
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: guys from last season. Paus you know what I like? Again,

1154
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: I keep saying your philosophy it is. It's a philosophy,

1155
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: it's what you want to do. And if you're if

1156
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you're leaning towards getting one more year out of Eli Manning,

1157
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: then you go and get yourself another need. And that's

1158
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: in a lot of times you don't have to. You

1159
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: don't like the draft out of need. But if your

1160
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: need and the best player there at six, take it.

1161
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: Get a defensive line lineman, go get an edge an

1162
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. You know, because it just so happens that

1163
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: your need and the best player may coincide and be

1164
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: the same thing. And those are privum positions. If you

1165
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: try to get him in fregency, they're going to cost

1166
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: you an arm in the like. That's right. I'm not

1167
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: against the free agency. The Giants history wise, they always

1168
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: thought I feel they always done better in the in

1169
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: the blow radar free agents. Every time they go for

1170
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: the pie in the sky, it's sort of backfires on

1171
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: them a lot, I really and and then it affects

1172
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: the cast space. The perfect example is when they when

1173
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: they uh mortgage the farm and fit your speech for

1174
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: the building to re build the whole defense. It was

1175
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: good for a short time period, but the chemistry, I

1176
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel was totally in the lock room the

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00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: way it should have been. I don't know how you feel.

1178
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: I think that's would happen. Yeah, Look, and it can

1179
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: work if you have a good thing going and you

1180
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: add like remember when they added Michael Bowley, Entreroll and

1181
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Chris Canty. Well that worked because you had a good

1182
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: base to work off of. And you're adding to what

1183
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: you already have here when you add Antonio Kiers. But

1184
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you can't build that way. Know, that's that's what I'd

1185
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: like to get build. Thank you for the time. I

1186
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: appreciate the good stuff you build through the draft and

1187
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: you add value through those free agents. You can't build

1188
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: it the other way around. It's time. Where did he

1189
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: play with Jeff Eagles? I don't have a great memory

1190
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: two NFL seasons memory Eagles with the Eagles. Let's see

1191
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: who Jeff remembers. You can make a mockery of my memory.

1192
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: Here's your host that was just so alright, we're not

1193
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: cheating today, Jeff, What do you mean? Who is cheating? Well?

1194
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: I think you're in a panic mode right now because

1195
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: after starting three and o and five and one, you've

1196
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: dropped three straight in your five and four About the

1197
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: tumble under five hundred for the year. I need to

1198
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: go self, scout. Are you ready? Did Jeff Beagles play

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Speaker 1: with Reggie Lawrence? Reggie Reggie a lot of Reggie's. I

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00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: played with a lot of Reggie's. I do not believe

1201
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: that I played with the Reggie Lawrence, though, yes you did.

1202
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: You played with the Reggie Lawrence the Philadelphia Eagles in

1203
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: the great year of he quote one pat us for

1204
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: five yards in one game. Come on, that's a five

1205
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: yard average. Nice job, Reggie. And that's the only year

1206
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: he played. And the there you go, alright, see this

1207
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: is a tool. And now you're at five and five.

1208
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I should just just wide receiver. By the way,

1209
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: did you play with Stevie Anderson? Stevie and did Anderson?

1210
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: I did? Okay? Now where did you play with him?

1211
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: And what was his position? Believe you as a receiver

1212
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: from Arizona? Correct? There we go. That should be that

1213
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: should be double it right, all three sections. Yes, I

1214
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: did play with them, the position and the team. And

1215
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: let me tell you the year. Don't do this to

1216
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: yourself five ninety six. Act. He was with you for

1217
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: two years. I gave you an easy one because he

1218
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: was series with it for two years, and that's the

1219
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: easy one. Come on, alright, finally, did you play with

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00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Joey elom Joey he loves yes. I did. I feel

1221
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: like yes because I remember his name being close to Jason. Okay, well,

1222
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: you still need to figure out what position he played

1223
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: for and what teams settle okay, and the position he played,

1224
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he was man already you already got

1225
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: your wins. So um was he a defensive back? Ding

1226
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: ding ding? Wow? Wow? Fire after starting off at a

1227
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: miserable today, come out and just kick your butt today?

1228
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: All right? Fiegels improves the seven to five on the

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Speaker 1: season two and one today. That's actually I'm I actually

1230
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: am impressed and you usually disappointment. Do you know what

1231
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: happened that I'm I'm glad I disappoint you every Friday.

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: Are sure this is approved by the Memory Serve and

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01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: there all right, figgs, good times. We will be at

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Speaker 1: the Combine next week live shows Wednesday through Friday, Wednesday

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Speaker 1: one to three, Thursday and Friday twelve to two. It

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Speaker 1: will all be presented by coreps Light download the cores

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Speaker 1: Light Awards AFT to an amazing Giants prizes. Both heigh

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: coach Pat Charmer and general manager Dave Gelman will be

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01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: addressing the media on Wednesday morning. That's why we're pushing

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01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: the show to one. Will replace some of those interviews

1241
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: and press commerces with you on Big Blue Kick Off Live,

1242
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have tons of guests, a lot

1243
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: of draft guys, free agency, NFL national reporters, beat writers,

1244
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: you name it, we'll have them. It'll be Lance and

1245
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: Paul on Monday, and then Jeff and Lance will record

1246
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: a show for Tuesday as we are in transit to

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis with all our gear for Jeff Feges on John Schmilk.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a wonderful weekend and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Audios