1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey guys, Chef Kevin here, Sean and Hayes are releasing 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: an episode of their Stitcher premium show, which is called 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Hollywood Handbook The pro Version for free. If you're not 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: familiar with it. 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None of them repeats they show us. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: It's just the smoothing drama, watching the cracks, the pops 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: in the thes. 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: No, it's the smoothing drama. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: You said it best, and I'll steal that phrasing because 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: it is just so well put. 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 3: It's the smoothing drama. 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: The cracks, the pops, the hisses, the whistles, the hissles, 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: the whisses, the pat and the crocks, the trickles. You 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: ever imagine you're seeing something in them their flames. 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: Maybe like a face. 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the devil's face and he's blowing you kiss 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: and you say, get out of here, devil and flickers away. 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: Just like that. 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: It happens to me every once in a while. I'll 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: be looking in there and it'll be the face of 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: a flame demon and I'll say, hey, knock that off, 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: and we'll go back to being a crispy little fire there. 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: The FCC broadcast rules probably wouldn't want them flamed demons 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: showing up, But for me, that's all part and parcel 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: of Cowboy TV and the smooth and drama that we 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: do so enjoy. 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: You know, one time I looked in there and I 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: thought I saw a famous stunt man after he put 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: on a you know, flame jel and burned his face 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: to look like he's on fire. 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: Oh sure, No, I mean, I do believe I looked 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: in there and thought I saw machine gun Kelly fighting 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 2: Jamie Fox. In the preview for the new film they 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: have with the word power in the title, the rest 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: of it which escapes me. 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: But I know exactly what you mean. 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: Well, that's what's great about Cowboy TV. You can just 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: let things escape you. 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: You sure can. 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: And as the light from the fire flickers off my 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: friend Bang's face, it is, of course time to talk 56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: about our sponsor, Mershmallows. 57 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: Now. I've been frying up me some mershmallows ever since 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: I turned on Cowboy TV. Nothing goes better with a 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: little Cowboy TV than a mershmallow. 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Some people like to burn them all crispy around the outside, 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: and of course others like to get them toasted brown. 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Just so me myself, I throw them in the fire 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: and let them burn away and never eat a single bite, 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: because mershmallows to me belong to the Cowboy TV. 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: My therapist asked me, how do you like your mershmallow? 66 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: He said, you you can learn a lot about a 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: guy by how you like your mershmallow. And I said, 68 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: I like putting mine in a fire, pulling it out 69 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: and just feel it in my hand. 70 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, therapists will do that, make you think about things 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: all funny that used to seem so simple. Handful of 72 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: molten mershmellow just blistering up that palm of yours. 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: Why that's a simple pleasure that the. 74 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: Cowboys like us do enjoy and we don't try to 75 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: analyze it none. 76 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I told him, you know what, Doc, I 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: think I got all the therapy I need right here 78 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: on this Cowboy TV with a nice molten hot mershmallow 79 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: in my fingers. 80 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, flamed attic. Sorry Sorry, sorry, sorry, I don't know. 81 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: That felt really good over here? Are you? 82 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 83 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: I know, I I think I I think everyone was 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: rolling I. 85 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: The mershmallow Man get did they are? 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: They? 87 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: Do? 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: They not like that? They want us to talk about 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: eating it. I mean we can address I don't know. 90 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. Honestly, they'll make more 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: money if people don't get full. I didn't know it 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: was an actual ad that you had arranged with any 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: that there is a. 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: Yes, that's how we're keeping the lights on. There's a 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: mershmallow Man. 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: Well okay, well this was presented to me as a pitch. 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: So the fact that no, it was an opportunity. He 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: was an opportunity. We're doing it. 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: It's if you want to produce it, then we can 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: do you know, then it's happening. 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: We're just opening up like the doors on the ground 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: floor for your ass to get in. 103 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: So this is I guess sort of a found like 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: my first question. I know it's called Cowboy TV. Yeah, 105 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: it took a really long title huh for me to 106 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: understand for the podcast that Cowboy TV is the fire. 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: Neither of you said the word fire for a really 108 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: long time. You just said you like like you talked 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: about the pops and the cracks and the hisses. But 110 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: it took a really long time to sort of get 111 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: out there that Cowboy TV is the fire, which is 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: important I think. 113 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: Okay, uh so, okay, so that's actually but that's not 114 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: that's a good note because it's not. 115 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: But that's not really that's not really my question. Okay, 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: because that one we can handle. My question is what 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: is Is it a podcast? Is it a a TV show? 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Like what you said, there's a like there needs we 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: have visual aspect. 120 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that's something we really we obviously wanted 121 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: it to be a podcast. Neither one of us really 122 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: has a camera but yeah, well. 123 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah or wait do you mean a camera? Uh? 124 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: Both, yeah, but we we do need people to This 125 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: should be the soundtrack of the Cowboy TV image, which 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: is a roaring, crackling fire that soothes, entertains, draws in 127 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: humanity and and so I think it could be like 128 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: not quite like an ASMR thing, because I do want 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: whole families to sit around and watch it, watch. 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: The fire, and I want them to stay awake. I 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: wanted to be awake the whole time because we're going 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: to say some pretty powerful stuff. 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Like when Ben started talking about is you know, not 134 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: needing therapy anymore? 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: I think that could really well so that Yeah, I 136 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: do want to get to that, because it sounded like 137 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: he fired his therapist because well said he or she 138 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: said that, you. 139 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: Can know it was Yes, it was a woman, okay. 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: And I didn't so much as fire them as hired 141 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: Cowboy TV. 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Okay, which we're hoping a lot of people will do that. 143 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: I mean, then that is that so they're only they're 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: only seeing the fire. Their only visual is is a fire? Well, 145 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: this is yes, the visual would be a fire. I 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: don't think we want to see us. Also, we're going 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: to be doing some weird stuff, so it would be distracting. 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and keep in mind we also don't have a camera. 149 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: What are you? What are you? 150 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: What are you going to be doing I'm gonna it's 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: like an interrogation, like it doesn't matter, We're not gonna see. 152 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: But I absolutely would not have beeven that. It's always 153 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: because you brought up that the reason that you cannot 154 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: be seen on camera we're doing because of stuff is 155 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: because of what you're going to be doing. 156 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be I mean not the whole time, 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: but sometimes, yeah, we'll be doing some unusual stuff that 158 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: I think would be distracting. I'll probably be peeling a 159 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: layer of skin, like a skin mask, off of my face. 160 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: That is that it will it will appear, would appear 161 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: to the viewer if we filmed it that I was 162 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: ripping my entire face off. There's the skin will be 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: okay underneath, but yeah, I just have an extra layer 164 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: on there that I doing it in front of the 165 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: Cowboy TV kind of helps it heats it up in 166 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: a way that I can take it off safely. 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: Every episode, yes, probably every episode, And I'm frequently putting 168 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: skin on my face. 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: He yes, So when I'm done with it, I'll give 170 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: it to Ben and and and he will apply it. 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: And then and the heat at TV, it's it sticks 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: it on and it helps my wounds, and so I 173 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: think there's beautiful ability. 174 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: But there is no fire. There is no actual fire. 175 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: Well that's another thing. Was we we don't have one now, 176 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: but we'd like to get one going. And you know, 177 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: obviously if this goes to two series or or whatever. 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: If it gets picked up and like gets a full 179 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: time pick up. 180 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: That would be one of the contractual demands that we 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: would be enforcing. Uh. 182 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: And you would prove, you would provide that we. 183 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: Need the heat. Sean needs that heat to get the 184 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: skin and off. I need the heat to get this. 185 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: It's not gonna stick. 186 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: On him without the heat. 187 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, And I don't want anybody seeing my my 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: tattoos and stuff. 189 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,239 Speaker 2: I also just don't want to be another Hollywood phony 190 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: sitting here talking about a cowboy TV talking about a 191 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: fire and there's no damn log in front of me 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: with great flames licking the air just below my chin 193 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: allowing you because cgi now, well, all these podcasts people 194 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: go like I'm doing this and it's like, Noah, have 195 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: you heard this voyage to the stars bullshit? 196 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: Because guess what, A fucking little tennis ball on a 197 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: string isn't going to seal the skin on my face. 198 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: And that's true too, So I think the authenticity is important. 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: I think that's what people will becoming a cowboy TV 200 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: for now. You are a little more technical than we are. 201 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: Can this just be an app that you would download 202 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: on say you're roku an app, okay, and then you 203 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: click it and then it's just the fire's flaming and 204 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: you can hear our voice and we'd we'd like to 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: do you know, a thousand or so episodes. 206 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I guess that's another question I have 207 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: it so far it's only about the fire. 208 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me look at the whiteboard. They're mostly about Yeah, yeah, 209 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: it's fire. It's like for the thousand we got up. 210 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: That's a lot of what we were recovering. Yeah, you've 211 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: blocked out some like a sea, not entirely. It's a 212 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: rough you know, it's sort of a beat sheet like uh, 213 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: not a full outline. But but we do have an 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: idea of like where we wanted to go and some 215 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: of the turns. 216 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: We have gone through. I think we're at nine hundred plus. 217 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 4: We're not at the full. 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: Thousand out of a thousand, okay, and we have these. 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: Benchmarks where it's like Okay, you know, episode four hundred 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: and twenty six. We know we want us to we 221 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 2: want the fire to be starting to die down a 222 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: little bit, and we add another log. 223 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: Okay, and I think that will really fucking break the internet, 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: you know, before. 225 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: The halfway point, you know, and people are going like, whoa, 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: it's early for that. You know, we're only four hundred 227 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: or so episodes in. 228 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna think at like nine and ninety they'll throw 229 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: another log in. 230 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: No, okay, I was just as like hearing it the 231 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: first time, it was dragging a little bit for me, 232 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: the fire stuff when you got into the first ad. Wait, 233 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: are you saying that's a bad thing something dragging? Yeah, No, 234 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: I mean look like it. It it's like atmospheric, like nice. 235 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: I get like the tone that you're trying to establish. 236 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: But like even by the time the Mershmallows came in, 237 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: which was only after like a couple minutes, Uh huh, 238 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: it felt a little like there wasn't too much left 239 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: to do on the on the fire. And I sort 240 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: of felt like you were feeling that also. Well, I 241 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: mean it's a metaphor. We want to go into that 242 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: a lot. Brett, did you have something. 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 5: I was just saying, I could I could speed it 244 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 5: up a little bit if it had to do with yeah, 245 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: like what I was playing, or I could. 246 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Plays guitar playing being faster. 247 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: I actually think this is maybe where some reverse psychology 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: might kick in, and I think if you slowed it 249 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: down it would help us move it forward. 250 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: I feel the same way if you could slow down 251 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: the guitar a little bit. It was kind of making 252 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: me feel, right. 253 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the guitar. 254 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: I feel like the ad really, the mershmallow ad really 255 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 4: threw you off, but like we and maybe we didn't 256 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 4: have to get into the ad. 257 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 3: So quickly, if that's not really what I'm saying. If 258 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: that distracted you, it did throw me. I I mean 259 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: it did worry me. 260 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: These are good like why don't we get why don't 261 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: we do another segment? 262 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: You know, you take another crack at it? Okay, yeah, okay, great, yeah. 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, howdy howdy. It was good to use my real voice, 264 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: you know. 265 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Ay now, well if it isn't my old pal bang 266 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: raje Man and another episode of Cowboy TV, which is 267 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: of course what we call. 268 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: A during good fire m M. 269 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: It's a fire of my friends, that's what Cowboy TV is. Yeah, 270 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: there any confusion. 271 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: If you don't know what Cowboy TV is. 272 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: And of course if you've downloaded the app, you're looking 273 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: at a fire right now. 274 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: It's this what's being presented visually in front of you 275 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: on your Roku screen. 276 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: So what what I like to talk about when I 277 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: talk about fire, of course, is starting one, getting the 278 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: wood together, lighting the wood on fire. 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: What kind of kindling did I find? Oh? 280 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: Sure, maybe you you crumpled up an old issue of 281 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: The Economist. Uh huh, it's one about how the bees 282 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: are starting to disappear all over the world. A little 283 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: article about that, and you crumple that up and you go, 284 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: don't tell me this bee stuff, and you light it 285 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: on fire and away it goes. 286 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: Maybe you found an old issue the Financial Times because 287 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: you don't think papers should be pink, get out of 288 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: here with that. 289 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you've seen an old issue of Business Insider and 290 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: you go ahead, shred that the little pieces. Put that 291 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: at the bottom of that old are kindling tray, and 292 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: that'll get that wood going good. One of the wood's lit, 293 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: then you just sit back and you watch the Cowboy. 294 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: A TV that's just really quick, just like a couple 295 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: of really quick things. It was. The entire thing was 296 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: again about watching the fire like it's TV. I did 297 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: sort of imply that I think it would be good 298 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: to get into either, like the Cowboy characters are really 299 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,479 Speaker 3: funny and like them talking about other stuff I think could. 300 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: Be okay, characters just kind of trying what we're trying 301 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: to avoid. You know, this is this is the character. Now, 302 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: this is my professional bullshit itself that I have to 303 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: like bring out for meetings like this. Yeah, Cowboy TV 304 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: is where I can actually let my hair down and 305 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: be myself and that's how like, that's how we talk. 306 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: And Cowboy TV is where I literally take my mask 307 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: off because I am peeling my fate which I which 308 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: I currently have on as I am being this like 309 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: false version of myself and Ben of course puts on 310 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: where my true face. 311 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: That this all that's all. It doesn't This is not 312 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: really a response to what I was saying at all. 313 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: What were you saying then? I was say, the only 314 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: thing that you have talked about so far in the 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: show is watching a fire as if it is TV. 316 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: You talk about changing the channel and using the remote, 317 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: and it's like it's a metaphor for television. 318 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: That's the yeah that I actually like this note, Ben, 319 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: I'd rather not refer to it as a different channel 320 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: adjusting the antenna and the reception, Okay, But to me, 321 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: changing the channels does bring us into sort of more 322 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: of a high tech modern world. 323 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: You know. 324 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: The whole thing for me is, but see that modern 325 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: television is fair. Modern television has five hundred channels, one thousand. 326 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of these things. What's great 327 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: about Cowboy TV is there's only one channel. Sometimes you 328 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: got to adjust the reception. 329 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: No, that's fair, that's fair. But that limit so that 330 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: actually is moving in the other direction, and it sort 331 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 3: of limits what you can talk about even more because 332 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: now the TV metaphor, you can't even include the idea 333 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 3: of channels. So now, yeah, what I'm saying, Yeah, I 334 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: mean I don't know that. 335 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: Like, I guess I just got to push back a 336 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: little bit because it's like, hey, let's get this bartender 337 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: out of a bar. This show Cheers is really fucking 338 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: boring in this bar all the time. 339 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: Right right, But that would be like, I mean, I'm 340 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: not even sure what a comparison could be with cheers. 341 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: But that would be like I guess if they only 342 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: talk about the process of serving drinks. 343 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the comparison is, two great shows. 344 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: Okay. So I also want to point out I don't 345 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: think Business Insider is a magazine. Sure I think I'm 346 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: I'll take that note. I'm almost positive now that it 347 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: is a website. 348 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: My brother makes it. 349 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: He makes the magazine Business Insider. Well, anythink that's a 350 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: website you can print m So it's a zine. Okay, 351 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: you prints out the website. 352 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 4: And then that is real zine prints out the website 353 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: and releases it as a zine. 354 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: But that's a little lessoteric. 355 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: If it's going over your head, Hayes, that's actually part 356 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: of why we brought you in is we don't want 357 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: to alien all that you want in the audience, like 358 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: we we want it to be inclusive. 359 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: So no, thank you, Yeah, good, good point, Sewan. 360 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: I Also, I mean, like, I don't know, I'll be honest, 361 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't know much about like building fires and stuff, 362 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know if like throwing magazines in there 363 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 3: is is that recommended. It seems like possibly dangerous. All 364 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: the ink and like chemicals like the only thing. The 365 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 3: only examples you used as kindling were business magazines like 366 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: Financial Times, I guess is a newspaper, but like. 367 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, don't you kind of see a little 368 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: bit of a metaphor in there where it's like, hey, 369 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: let's forget about the business. 370 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and let's sort of like remove ourselves from 371 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: that part of culture. And and maybe now the real 372 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: business is watching this roaring fire. Hey there's fucking like 373 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: five hundred TVs channel. 374 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: No, he's right. I mean I was saying that earlier, 375 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: and I actually like, I don't want to close off 376 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: this this opportunity, because that was actually the most interesting 377 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: part to me, because it wasn't that was the least 378 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: about sort of the TV metaphor. 379 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: Right, So different kindling for this one. Different kindling would 380 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: be different kindling. 381 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: If there's a way just to talk about and I 382 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: did appreciate setting up the fire so clearly in the beginning, 383 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for taking that note. If there's a way 384 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: to talk about something else other than this TV metaphor 385 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: for the fire, or maybe even something other than the 386 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: fire at all, I think that would be really interesting 387 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: to explore, and we can hear it. We can always 388 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: be hearing it, and we'll also be seeing it exclusively 389 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: the entire time, So nobody is going to be like 390 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: losing like the idea of the fire. They will always 391 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: be seeing and hearing it. But maybe we could talk 392 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: about something else. 393 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: It's just like, I don't want to alienate the people 394 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: who don't have the app either. If if you're just 395 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: listening to it and you maybe don't have the fire 396 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: on your Roku, because. 397 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: You release this as a podcast, you have to So 398 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: why doesn't the okay, would you agree? 399 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Heyes, that most podcasts right now that are out there 400 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: do talk about something else other than the fire. 401 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think that's just to say they 402 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: talk about different things with that episode. 403 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: But when obviously when you launch a podcast it is 404 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: a crowded marketplace, you do need to find a way 405 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: to stand out. What do you have to say that 406 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: is being left unsad? So for us, I think the 407 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: fire is a big part of it. Is like if 408 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: you have a political agenda. 409 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: So your response to this is no, you will not 410 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: talk about anything except the fire, and specifically the fire 411 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: being a metaphor, and I really don't think this is 412 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: a metaphor. By the way, I'm using You've got me 413 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: using the word, but I don't think that's what it is. 414 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: I mean, like a metaphor for watching TV. 415 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: Something must be working, then, I don't know if there is. 416 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: I don't think. I'm not sure anyone has bothered to 417 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: come up with a word for what this is. 418 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I don't know what your political agenda is. 419 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: And I has absolutely nothing to do. 420 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: What do What would you like us to talk about instead? 421 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Because we I I a point taken, and I think 422 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: there is room to introduce something else to the conversation. 423 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: But do you have a suggestion for. 424 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: That or is it literally it feels like you have 425 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: something in your tiptoeing around I actually do. 426 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: I do not, and I and this, I did not 427 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 3: like arrange this meeting that I'm not here to like 428 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: really put too much of my self into this. 429 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: But what I what I don't want, Hayes, is I 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: don't want this to be another like Hornball Show where 431 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: it's all about. 432 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: Like And that's not what I'm suggesting at all. 433 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 4: Because that's I'm sort of with Sean on. I feel 434 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: you gently pushing us over into kind of like pervy. 435 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Sexual That's not what I'm that's I didn't say anything 436 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: even close to that. 437 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: I know the eighties are hot right now, but that 438 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 4: part of that era I think is is God for good, 439 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: yes and and happily. 440 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: Even like other things related to being a cowboy I 441 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 3: think would be great, Like the cowboy thing is fun, 442 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: like it's a and like you said, this is these 443 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: are not even characters for you. This is actually who 444 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: I've got. I've got it. He's gotta let's do it, 445 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: Let's do it, do it? 446 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: Fire, howdy well on someome traveler are your partner. I'm 447 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: glad you just had to stop next to our old 448 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: camp set. He and you picked a good time to 449 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: do it. We were just sitting in for another. 450 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: Episode of Cowboy TV. 451 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: Drop that big old buddiers down, PLoP it in front 452 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: of the Cowboy TV. And when we talk Cowboy TV, 453 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: you know we're looking out of fire, a combustion in 454 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: our little fire pit here. 455 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some logs and they are a burning. 456 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: And you know, you know, starting the fires is always 457 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: leave it in, leave it in. 458 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: Starting a fire is always an interesting experience. 459 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta pick out some some of them 460 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: there kindling to get it going, don't you bang you do? 461 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: You can't just throw a mash on a log. You 462 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: gotta start small and let it get big. 463 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: One thing I like to get burning when we first 464 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: start out is, uh, the New. 465 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: York Times, m the old Gray Lady, the paper record, 466 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: throw all. 467 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: The news that to set on fire. Just forget about, 468 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: never look at it again. 469 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: I told my lady therapist, I don't need the news. 470 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: I got the news right here on Cowboy TV. 471 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: But you know I also burn. 472 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: Hey boy, I hope my horse doesn't set down of 473 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: the fire birds big butt. 474 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, wouldn't that be something, that big old butt 475 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: on fire, the horse. 476 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 6: Purchase butt setting in the fire? No, thank you, that 477 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 6: doesn't happen. But being a cowboy, that's one of the 478 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 6: risks you run. You gotta watch Cowboy TV. And you 479 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 6: got to leave your horse untied? Is that that's the 480 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 6: new things? 481 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: What? 482 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 3: Okay? And that's that's like some of the pauses, some 483 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: of the pauses were so long. Brett stopped playing at 484 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: what point? Uh? 485 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know you got to stop. Sometimes you 486 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: got to recharge. Sometimes you just got to take it 487 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 4: got its own pace to You gotta take the fighter 488 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: in that part of it, I thought, I. 489 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: Just was it? Brett said, are we done? 490 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, that's part of cowboy TV. 491 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: That's part of it. Okay. The huge sneeze that you 492 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: demanded me left in for some reason. 493 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: Of course, it's legit, man, there's no Hollywood magic, all right, 494 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: you got to leave that in there. 495 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: This thing's got its own we you know, we marched 496 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: to the beat of a different drum. 497 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: You ever get a face full of smoke that'll make 498 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: you sneeze? 499 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: So that was on purpose. 500 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 501 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: You ever bite into some can of beans fresh off 502 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: the fire and it's a little too hot for. 503 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: You, makes beans back out? 504 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: Beans? Yeah? 505 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: You ever bite into a hot can of beans? Makes 506 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: you sneeze the beans right back out? So hot? I was. 507 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: So what I was curious about is was you talking 508 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: about the horse burning sitting in the fire and burning 509 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 3: its butt? Was that the response to my note about. 510 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: When when I said I got it right before we 511 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: went into that, that was what I had? 512 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: That was what I had gotten? Okay, that was so it. 513 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: I like, it's best of both worlds because it ties 514 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: in the fire still, but we are starting to discuss 515 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: other cowboy stuff. 516 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be kind of a bridge 517 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: to like talking about your horse and like riding the range. 518 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: And there's a really strong metaphor for what I mean, 519 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: does a I'm not a Cliff's notes. I mean, I 520 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: don't want to explain the metaphor here because then. 521 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: Well you've done it many times about the TV thing. 522 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: The listener, Well, the listener might have his own shit, 523 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: his or her own shit going on. 524 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: That's one of the things that's cool about Cowboy TV, 525 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: you know, is you bring yourself to it, and we 526 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: do want the audience a little bit to interpret in 527 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: their own way, you know. 528 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: We don't want to. 529 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: Assign them like this is the meaning of the horse 530 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: possibly burning his button the fire. 531 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: We want them to take that journey on their own. 532 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: So my initial instinct when you did first start talking 533 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: about the horse, I was like, oh, I appreciate this, 534 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: this could be like a segue to something else. But 535 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: then it did seem like that was it, and then 536 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: you were going to begin the the mercery. I started 537 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: to miss the fire, you know, I started to miss 538 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: the fire was still being talked about. Actually that, Yeah, honestly, 539 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: thinking about the horse. 540 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: The horse kind of fucked me up a little bit 541 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: distracted me, Like it took me out of it for 542 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: a second, and it took me a second to get back. 543 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: And then when I heard, you know, Sean quing up 544 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: for like to read ads, I. 545 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Actually there's more than one. Yeah, I guess I would 546 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: love to hear the second ad from our other sponsor. 547 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: That would be I mean, I am curious if you've 548 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: like arranged us already. I'm not really sure what you 549 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: want from me. But okay, well let's I've never produced 550 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: a podcast ever. Okay, and Kevin, But financially, Kevin has 551 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: been here the whole time, and he is a podcast. 552 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: He's not the right fit for this, And frankly, financially, 553 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: what we need is a. 554 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: Lot of support from our producer that I so, I 555 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: saw the sheet that Levin's got a lot of baggage. 556 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: He's in the system. We want to kind of drain 557 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: the swamp with this one a little bit. And okay, 558 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: and kind of get news. 559 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: That was another you talked about like not wanting it 560 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: to be political, but the way you talked about burning 561 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: the New York Times was not just about like escaping 562 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: the news. It seemed like it that that had sort 563 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: of a political tinge to it to me? 564 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: But did you see I added a as well, So it 565 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: wasn't just like you added what hey, I said, I 566 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: burned Hey, which is like sort of a cowboy thing. 567 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: I didn't have any problem with that. 568 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's do let's let's I mean the ad. 569 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: Let's do a quick one. Let's get right into the 570 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: ad like well, yeah, well. 571 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: You can start from the beginning and then I can 572 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: hear what the what the ad is? Sure? 573 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, we'll give you one where you get 574 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 4: what you want. 575 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: We try it fire sound please? Great? Oops? Spotted? Yeah, 576 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: I see trying to. 577 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Hide behind their tumbleweed. Why don't you pull up a 578 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: stump and sit down with two old cowpokes next to 579 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: their favorite show only one channel, not them five hundred 580 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: thousand channels they got over there. But this is Cowboy 581 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: TV and it is watching a fire. Just to be 582 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: super explicit. 583 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: About that, it's stuff burning in the fire pit. That's 584 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: what Cowboy TV is. 585 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: And we're burning to you know, all types of sacred 586 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: artifacts of the liberal media to get it going. And 587 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: and we also are of course. 588 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: Y buthered. 589 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 2: I gotta say a lot of you are familiar with 590 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: our primary sponsor, mershmallows, But of course they can't be 591 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: eating and fried alone. That's why our second sponsor, the 592 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: pointy stick, is so damn important. 593 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: Now, a pointy stick has gotta be sharp enough to 594 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: pierce a marshmallow right through is liberal heart. It's soft, 595 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: soft liberal chest. 596 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, marshmallows are white like snow filling. 597 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: It kind of makes me a little bit of horny bud. 598 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I do get excited what I'm doing 599 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: that part? All right, all right, okay, all right, you 600 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: are ending it. No, we're still going. We wanted one 601 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: that you were happy with. 602 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we took all that that was that was you, 603 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: that was for you. 604 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: I was like, yet, I am concerned about the longevity 605 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: of this overall. But the pointy stick as a sponsor. 606 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: You you have arranged this deal, and I deal with 607 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: with a with one stick or like, uh it's uh, 608 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's yes, basically yes, one essentially with an 609 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: opportunity to use more sticks later. So this makes sense 610 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: for based on the other ad I I heard about 611 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: mershmallows for bang. But for you, Sean, you don't you 612 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: just said that you I just throw them in. 613 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: I just throw them in wh I kind of so 614 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: I have bang do the like personal testimonial part of this. 615 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: Okay, that didn't I didn't hear that. 616 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: I know, I know, and it's it's still a little 617 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: rough around the edges where working. 618 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna probably uh huh yes, which we're happy to do. Obviously. 619 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: We have I think time to squeeze in another another 620 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: ad for the pointy stick, and I'll just have to 621 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: remember to throw the bang and really go like, hey, 622 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: talk about like what you like about the pointy stick 623 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: or your experience. 624 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: And he did a little bit. I mean he talked 625 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: about piercing it through the heart. 626 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: I talked about it making me horny, which is kind 627 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 4: of for you to You talked about that a couple 628 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: of times, like because like it seemed like you wanted 629 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: to be a little sexier. 630 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: And and we and we incorporated some of the political 631 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 2: agenda stuff that actually said extly that. 632 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: I didn't want that or say that. So both of 633 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: those things. So we do we have to record another, 634 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: like an actual episode of the show. I think what 635 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: would help me make my decision is I guess if 636 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 3: listeners decided they want to hear more Cowboy TV, they 637 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: should probably post like a hashtag like hashtag I want 638 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: my Cowboy TV yeah, or something like. Normally I don't 639 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: like to like encourage that kind of engagement, but I 640 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 3: think that would just like a pulse taking thing. If 641 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: people want to hear more Cowboy TV. This could be 642 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: something that we do, like not every week, but like 643 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: every other week. Maybe. 644 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have I mean, all right, I feel 645 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: like it's kind of every week or bus. 646 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 3: That's not enough for you. Doing this every other week is. 647 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 2: In the in the Cowboy world, they would actually be 648 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: doing it every night. So yeah, okay, So I think 649 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: I think every week is a pretty big compromise on 650 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: our part. 651 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: You want this to be a podcast that comes out 652 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: at night every night, every night and a perfect world? 653 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: Yes, And I don't know, like I know Spielberg was 654 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: working on some like quibi stuff that like only came 655 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: out at night. 656 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 3: Is that true? 657 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: If we could get the freaky stuff, it is true, 658 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: that's the true thing you can look up. And I 659 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: do want to like get in on that tech and 660 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 4: have this be like depending on what time zone you're listening, 661 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 4: you can only listen to it at night. 662 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: You cannot listen to it during the day until night. 663 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I did have one other idea, as you do 664 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: bring up kind of the idea of how it'll be 665 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: released and like marketing, And I think we have two 666 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: pretty healthy potential rivals that a feud with them could 667 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: get us some press coverage for free. One is the 668 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: Yule log that comes out on Netflix at Christmas time 669 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: that is just a burning log on the TV. 670 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 3: I think we could really target them them. 671 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: Give them a run for their money. I mean, they 672 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: we just got to step up our game around the holidays. 673 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: But like we'll have the build up of every night 674 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 4: for the whole year before then. 675 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: That you're gonna watch, Oh, you're gonna watch that fire like, 676 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: so the on different channel isn't our whole thing. 677 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: There's only one channel. And then and I guess after 678 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: Christmas you could do a thing where like you guys 679 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: chase them away or something like you ran them out 680 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 3: of town. 681 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 2: Maybe I would, Yes, I mean you wouldn't be able 682 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: to see us because we'll. 683 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: Be doing things. I'm just saying you would say that 684 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: we would. We would absolutely say that we we. 685 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 2: Fire. 686 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 687 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 688 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: But I also did want to pitch sort of a tagline, 689 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: which is Friday Night's Lit. So it's, you know, when 690 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: our big Friday episode is coming up, which we'll try 691 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: to always make extra special, We'll say Friday Night's Lit. 692 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: And my hope is that the TV show Friday Night 693 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: Lights will sue our ass, and that the lawsuit will 694 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: get a lot of coverage in the press, and that 695 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 2: the liberal media will eat that shit up and play 696 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 2: right into our hairs. 697 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: So but it still comes out every night. 698 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and it leads up to Friday Big 699 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 4: one Friday Night, and then we come back Saturday night, 700 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: and then we go on for the whole rest of 701 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 4: the week. 702 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: What's the big one? What is a big one for 703 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 3: this show? Bigger fire? 704 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to get to behind the scener, 705 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: but we might actually like throw some gunpowder in there 706 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: or something something dangerous. 707 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: Okay, I again, I I've thought I was being very 708 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: generous proposing we do this show instead of our normal 709 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: show every other week, But I guess again, I would 710 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: like to hear from the listeners on this. I can 711 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: be convinced if we like get together enough of like 712 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: a petition, maybe like a change petition or something to 713 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 3: to have Cowboy TV be like a other every other 714 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 3: week or every week or possibly every night, like I 715 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 3: guess they should post hashtag I want my Cowboy TV. 716 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 3: Or is that an okay hashtag? I don't want to like. 717 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 4: No, I think that's great. 718 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: That's really good I do. Okay. So one other thing, 719 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: thank you for reminding me, Brett. A lot of the 720 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: music was not really Cowboy music. Yeah, I felt that 721 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: as well. One that had kind of an island vibe. 722 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: One was a little more like grungy like. That concerns 723 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 3: me a little bit that out of the four things 724 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 3: I heard, maybe have to not remind me of Cowboy 725 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: music at all. 726 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: Good note, Yeah, that's a good note. I mean, we 727 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 4: did get some of the surviving members of Dire Straits 728 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: to record like I Want My and like they looped 729 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 4: in Sting to get and I I Want my Cowboy TV. 730 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 4: Technically that's not Cowboy music. But what am I gonna 731 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 4: say no to Sting Hayes. 732 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they looped in Sting just to say just what. 733 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 5: Brett, Mark Knopfler from Dire Straits. 734 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 4: We got Mark Knopfler, Okay, so just to say we 735 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 4: got Knopfler, Man. 736 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 3: You got that that all of them just to say, 737 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: like the beginning of money for Nothing when they say 738 00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: I want my MTV. 739 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: But the lyrics, I think that's the end. 740 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's the end of the song. 741 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's a bunch of city guys complaining about 742 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 4: like how how good these cowboys have it? 743 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 3: M hm okay, I'll check if that's the end. 744 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 4: They're like city rock stars. They're these big rock stars 745 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 4: and they're they walk by these cowboys. 746 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: And they're like, you think it's the middle of the song. 747 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: I also, aren't they all the end. 748 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 5: And they're talking about microL wave ovens. 749 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 3: At least Sting is not from America. Maybe that doesn't matter, 750 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 3: is not flir? I think he might be British too. 751 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the thing is Cowboy TV's international, and 752 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: like you know, it's like the end of Kokomo, Like, is. 753 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: Your concern, sorry if I could interrupt, is your concern 754 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: that if we do it, do just the end of 755 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: the song and let it fade out, that it won't 756 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: then go into the body of the song, which includes 757 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: a homophobic slur set multiple times and like one of 758 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: the most popular pop songs of the era. 759 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: I well, I don't, Oh that's right. I actually know, 760 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the lyrics. That is incredibly problematic. 761 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: I had never I agree, but you would pitch the hashtag, 762 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: so then I thought, like you no, I so I 763 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: wasn't wanted that to the song. And in fact, the 764 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: song references a pre existing phrase. It just like like 765 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: it's as if I had mentioned microwave ovens. Like that 766 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 3: is not a reference to the song money for nothing. 767 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: Where are we going to say no to a Knopfler. 768 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: Please don't play it after Please don't play that Brett. 769 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 5: To me, that means launch into the song anytime if 770 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 5: you say microwave ovens, So you don't want me to 771 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 5: play it? 772 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 3: So it does that actually appears that the that does 773 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 3: happen at the beginning of the song, But I want 774 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: my MTV it's not at the end at all, or 775 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: it might be an. 776 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: End also, but how to avoid but if you want 777 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: the whole thing, I mean, so no, I'm just saying to. 778 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: Me, that's a marketing mistake. We do we really have 779 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: to record another episode? Okay, great, Okay bye. 780 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 6: It's the pro version