1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Lala, Hello, gorgeous, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back to untraditionally, Lala. I have my rider die 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: here Easton Birmingham. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm here. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: So it is shocking how many people wrote in to 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: be like, I'm trying to kick the vape too. Everywhere 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: I looked, someone was like in their car vaping and 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that looks so freaking good. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: After a meal Eastan, I would look at each other 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what I would give, What I would 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: fucking give to just smack the shit out of that. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm weird. I like eating like all stuff my face. 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll sit back, hit the vape and I'll 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: dive back into that meal. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Baby, Oh yeah, dive straight back and look at mom. 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: I think it's nauseating. 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Tried it. I'm like Chandler, Chandler being on front when 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Rachel starts smoking and she's like, I actually feel like 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: I could throw up, and he's like, but you gotta 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta push past that. It's about to get so good. 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And then they're talking about how discussing songing is he goes, yeah, 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: it is the best and I'm like, I relate. I relate, 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: and guess. 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: What, I also relate because he went five years. I 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: made it five days. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: Okay, so back to that we this is my reward. 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: It has not gone well, Ethan. Let's talk about your 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: moment of caving back to the wape. How many we 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: went a week? We went a week. I went a 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: little more than a week. 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: And I'm proud of you for that. Oh my god, 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: there's so many things just traveling back to this little 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: old mind of what is it? 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: It's like I was. I was never content. But when 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: everybody this is the fucking thing. I hate when people 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: are like it's hard. I know it's struggling, but you 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: can get through it because you're sipping your mocktail or 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: your cocktail. 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, fuck you. 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: We have we have a friend who, by the way, 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: calls us buzzed while he's smoking a cigarette, telling us 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: that we can do it, we can give up the bape. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: I was like, if I. 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: Could come through the phone and you punch you in 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: your throat so you cannot speak anymore, I would I'd 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: punch you with two fists. Easton's very new in his 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: sobriety journey, and there was a moment where he was like, 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm tweaking out. 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: I need some good. 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: So he went and bought one. But the day that 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: he bought it, he was like really down, you remember mom, 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: And he had like called his sponsor and he talked. 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: To him as down for good two days, three days. 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: I was not you know what, I would much rather 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 4: have you smoking a vabe than relaps that time. 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I just cannot deal. I cannot deal with a fifth relapse. 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: No, but this is your journey. 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: And I'm here to support you through the thick and 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the thin. 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: There it is, Here's what kept me from a relapse. 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: But Easton, he kept saying that like going out and 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: buying the vape, he felt like he had relapsed. 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: And I was on, I mean, I don't, I I 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: don't I like sharing. I like was a speaker at 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: a meeting in you know, our program. Yeah, and I 67 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: told a lot of people that like that I felt 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: like I relapsed. And I can't tell you how many 69 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: people were like I felt the exact same way. Really yeah, 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: because you know, you're it's all in the same You 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: gave up drinking, you gave up smoking, you gave up whatever, 72 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: gone another unhealthy. Yeah, you don't have advice, and now 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: you give it up, and like you feel like you're 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: doing these things and it's like, you know, you have 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: pink cloud moments of like okay, I gave up the vape. 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: Now I'm doing it, and then when you hit it, 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: you're like everything that you just worked for feels like 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: it went down the tube. 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: And I can completely understand. 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: I had to call multiple people. 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: I had to call my sponsor and I was like, 82 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: I feel like I relapsed, and everybody the meeting is 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: what made me feel good. They were like, now this 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: is you know, this is what we're this is what 85 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: we're in here for, and we gave up the things 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: that alter us and this does not alter you. 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: Now. I was like, okay, that's okay, mom, come a 88 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: fucking joy. It makes me need to hit the vabe. 89 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: I know, and then she I just that's why I 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: also feel bad. I just like it. 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's either a cocktail or this vape and 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: then I hit it and Least says over there, it's. 93 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: Like, fuck, let me live. I can't condon. I'm your 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: mother and I don't want you. No, no, no, no, no, no, 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't. 96 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't want you to condonate. I want you to 97 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: point out all the horrific things because guess what, you guys, 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I am going to have to give it up. Like 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm having surgery in a little over a month, Like 100 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: it has to be done on top of I know 101 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: what it's doing to my body. I have two little 102 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: girls that I need to be around for. That's important 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: to me. Okay, hear me out, because I know everyone's 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna think I'm insane. I got sober and it was 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: pretty much I woke up and said I was not 106 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: going to live this way anymore. And that is when 107 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: the vaping started. I didn't go buy one, but I 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: was hitting other peoples and it was happening long enough 109 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: to where I in moments of stress or I would 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: need to go out, and the people I was going 111 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: out with weren't drinking. And I was very heavy in 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: the entertainment. Like now I'm more of a homebody and 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: now it's a full on addiction. But back then it 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: was like We're going to can for a film festival 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, and I'm like that is triggering. 116 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: People are drinking. There's social lubricant happening. I need something. 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Then I get pregnant. Because someone pointed this out in 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: the comments section, you quit for nine months and then 119 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: you breastbud. Yes, I did quit for nine months with 120 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Sosa well before that, because I knew that I was 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: having to prep my body for it, right, so I 122 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: gave it up. There was something very big on the 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: line that you can't be vaping for and then breastfeeding, 124 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: and why I then go back to doing it is 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: because it's an addiction. And I said to someone in 126 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: one of my meetings, I was like, I'm gonna give 127 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: it up because I can. This was a very long 128 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: time ago. If I can quit drinking, I can quit vaping. 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: And she goes, well, have you ever given up heroin? 130 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: And I go no, and she goes, that's it's the equivalent. 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, so yes, I want 132 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: to give it up. And I'm seven years into my sobriety. 133 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: Easton is relatively news. We have to keep him where 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: he is for me. Easton had a friend come over 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the other night. Her name's Dina, Little Dina shout out, 136 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: and she brought me this little like anti vaping device 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: which I'm going to have to implement. I'm going to 138 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: San Francisco this weekend. I don't think I can be 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: without it. I'll be the vape, just letting you know. Mom. 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: I can see her face shift. Her energy is undeniable 141 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: right now, it's suffocating. Worry about you, guys, I worry 142 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: about me too. I worry about me too. After that, 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I come home Easton. You gotta hide that ship from me, 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and you can. If I say, let me have a 145 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: smacky smack, which is what I do every morning, let 146 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: me have a shmacky smack. You have to deny me 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: of that. I will and after this, because even when 148 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I got pregnant, you guys, I was like, oh the 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: moment I dropped this kid and I'm done with her 150 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: on the boom, I'm fucking smacking a shit out of 151 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: that stuff. Seriously, I know this round, this round, I'm 152 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: telling you what it is going to be a we 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: are giving up the vape and there is no timeline 154 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: happening where you get through recovery of the boobs and 155 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: you get to hit it. No, it's gone, it's done. 156 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: It has to be done well. 157 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: If my dad, your grandfather, look for fifty some odd 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: years and give it up cold turkey with hard candies. 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: I think anybody can. 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I finished a pound a pound of popcorn flavored jelly 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: bellies in less than thirty six hours, chewing it the 162 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just where. We'll do what we have 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: to do. I may gain a little weight, which is fine. 164 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a fat ass. 165 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just hit this verbe. 166 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: The fattest of asses. I'm gonna walk in looking like 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: moving party. B apologies, Okay, I'm gonna have like twelve 168 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: boyfriends moving on. People have asked me, how's the vave going? 169 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: It's going great? 170 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: You know what I say, Drenda Medley. Not well, bitch, 171 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: it's going well. What are you thinking? Mom? 172 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: I know I feel like I'm just. 173 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: Judge, judging. 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm not judging at all. 175 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm thirty five years old, you guys, and have to 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: hide my vaping from my mother. 177 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: We don't do a very good job. 178 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: It's because I finally give up. I'm like, I can't, 179 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm tweaking, and she knows I'm going to Easton's black 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: House way too much. 181 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: I know, did we even tell that story? When I 182 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: found the vape? In my bag and Mom walked into 183 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: the room. 184 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: No, but that's so funny. 185 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Oh, we were in it. 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: We had just given it up, and it was maybe 187 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: day two or three, and the attict I am. 188 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna give it. I'm just gonna 189 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: throw it away. 190 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 3: I hit it the final time, and I thought, I'm 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,479 Speaker 3: gonna put this in my Duffel bag just in case. 192 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Just in case. 193 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Don't like vitamins, Like you don't know if you're gonna 194 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: get sick on vacation, so you gotta throw the vitamins 195 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: just a case too. 196 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: So I like threw to the Duffel bag. I forgot 197 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: about it. 198 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: And then when I was in my room, I was 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: like getting my clothes out and I see this grain 200 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: thing at the bottom, and I thought, there's just no 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: fucking way, and I grabbed it. And I'm not kidding you, 202 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: standing straight up. 203 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: Was it a freshier and oldie like? 204 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: It was pretty freshy. It was the worst. 205 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: And I looked at it and the what went through 206 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 3: my mind was do I hit this and not tell anyone, 207 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: or do I go find my friend? 208 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: So we hit it together, meaning me meaning my sister. 209 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: He wanted to bring me down with him. 210 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: And right when I'm thinking this, I'm looking at it 211 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: and Mom walks. 212 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: In and I was like, I'm trying to pape. I 213 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: just ratted myself. I was like, I didn't know what 214 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: to do. 215 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: You had a babe because I didn't have my g 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: She didn't even care, but I just looked at her. 217 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: I was essentially blind, like jilty, and I was. 218 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Like, what though, I don't know, he looks like in 219 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the headline. 220 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to hit the fape but knowing it wasn't right. 221 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: But I A, so you did. No. I I wanted 222 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: to hit it but knowing it wasn't right, And so 223 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: I was like, do I ask my friend kid with 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: hen and the cook or do I I was. 225 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, and Lisa comes out. She goes, 226 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: he hit it. I know he hit the vape and 227 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I was like, he says he did it. Mom, No, 228 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: he looked guilt. I'm like, that's just contemplating, and that 229 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: contemplations like that, the thoughts. 230 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to know, it's so sadenalty. 231 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: After that happened, we threw it in the trash, I know, 232 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: and then that's when the real downhill spirals. 233 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: So you guys. It was such a struggle to not 234 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: hit it that I had to put Sosa's dirty diapers 235 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: on top of it in the trash outside the big 236 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: daddies that get emptied by a garbage truck, just so 237 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hit it, and that garbage it filled diapers. 238 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: And even then I was like, chlorox, I still could 239 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: if I can still reach it, chlorox white, and whatever 240 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: comes with it comes with it. So instead of anybody 241 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: riding in wanting to shame us, my mother does enough 242 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: of that for all of you. So I'd prefer to 243 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: hear about your guys' struggles so we can relate and 244 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: work together. But I'm getting rid of it. No, yes, 245 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: you can. To people who are like I'm. 246 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: Trying, but a cocktail night it helps me. 247 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, please, if you can drink, please, don't please. 248 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: If you can, then you just make me angry. 249 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: You just got that zero alcohol was shot. 250 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: You started taking shots of non alcoholic beverages. Very disgusting. 251 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Didn't look good. 252 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: It was. 253 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It tasted the equivalent alcohol. 254 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: It scratches the itch of just the but it's just 255 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: the hand motion, sobriety. It's just its own different journey. 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: So anybody who's like smoking the vape but can also 257 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: like go and have a drink, it's just different. Like 258 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't even take night Quill without because it puts 259 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you into you know, I mean people like sip that 260 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: ship on ice off medicine. There there's nothing that I 261 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: can really do if I'm having anxiety or I'm struggling 262 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: with depression going into a doctor and having them prescribe 263 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: me something like slippery slope. So the vape is just 264 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: what I turned to in a time where I was 265 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: just trying to like not pick up a drink, and 266 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: it was the worst move that I ever made. But 267 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: then I think about the alternative, which could possibly have 268 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: been drinking again. So I'm not trying to justify smoking 269 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: the vape. 270 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: It's just I'm trying to justify my sobriety, trying to explain, 271 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: trying to keep the mind of yeah, like it was. 272 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: I have only had this moment one time where I 273 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: was in Puerto Rico and I was newly sober, and 274 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I was really tweaking out on the mini bar and 275 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: I kept thinking no one would ever know, like I 276 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: could drink right now and no one would ever know. 277 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: And it got to the point where like, even after 278 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: calling my sponsor, it didn't help, and she said, you 279 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: have to call room service right now and have them 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: clean out that many bar. And that's what I did, 281 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: because I was going to drink and I didn't have 282 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a vape on me. In fact, my ex's dad sent 283 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: an entire box of vapes from Miami to Puerto Rico 284 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: because I was tweaking out so badly. So cut to 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: when I'm in Mexico with the girls. It wasn't that intense, 286 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: but we were driving into Cago, like the town where 287 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: you go and you can go to little bars, and 288 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: we were going on a boat and the girls had 289 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: started drinking, and I was passing these like really fun 290 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Mexican restaurants and bars with these people and I'm like, oh, 291 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: they're like bar hopping and that looks like so much fun. 292 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: And there was a moment that I was not thinking 293 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: of picking up a drink, but a thought process that 294 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I have not had. And by the time we were 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: getting off the boat, I was like, well, I'm glad 296 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't drink, but that was scary for me because 297 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: I haven't experience that before. 298 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, those people most most of those people in 299 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: those little bars know their limits exactly right. 300 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: That's the difference, That is the difference. But that's the 301 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: alcoholic mind of like, I've beat this, I can have one, 302 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: and then I have to walk myself through my rock 303 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: bottom moment of once you have one, you're going to 304 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: love the feeling and you're going to continue and tomorrow 305 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: you're going to wake up and regret every second. And 306 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: not only will you regret it, the shame is going 307 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: to sink in. And you've started at your twenty four 308 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: hour bitch again in the program and that I just 309 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: don't want to have. 310 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: Well, I'm proud of both of you, so you know, 311 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: I know that you're vaping, but I'm proud you don't pick. 312 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Up a drink. I will give up the vight mom 313 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: for my for my children. And this is going to 314 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: sound horrible. Unfortunately that has been very hard. Even thinking 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: like my kids need me, you know, and I should 316 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: give it up for that. That hasn't worked me. Saying 317 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: that it's I have to do it for myself and 318 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: vanity is what I think is going to catapult me 319 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: into having to give it up. 320 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have a good reason to give it up. 321 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: No one ever pick up the vape. If you have 322 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: not picked it up, don't pick it up. It's awful, 323 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: it's disgusting, and it's so good, as everyone knows. I've 324 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: talked about this on vander Pump. My my ex and 325 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't co parent. We parallel parent. What happens at 326 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: his house is none of my business. What happens at 327 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: my house is none of his business. But there was 328 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: something that bothered me so much over the weekend. And 329 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: this is where it gets really hard when you can't 330 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: have a co parenting relationship. As you know, we communicate 331 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the app. Still there's like no calls, no conversation, even 332 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: though I did attempt to call this weekend. So it 333 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: was a Friday, and I'm getting all of these calls 334 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: from moms at school and the school saying Ocean has 335 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: invited the entire or has invited a few friends to 336 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: her birthday party that's happening on Saturday, and moms are 337 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: expressing concern because it's like not even twenty four hours 338 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: before this party is happening, and I'm confused because I'm like, well, 339 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: number one, I know that this school has a policy 340 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: that if this is a birthday party, or even a 341 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: party in any capacity, you have to invite the entire class. 342 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: You have to be inclusive, either the entire I love 343 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: I love it. I have no issue with that at all. 344 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: So you can either invite the whole class or it 345 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: can just be girls. But you can't invite one boy 346 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: unless you want to invite the entire class. So my 347 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: daughter's walking around talking about this. I get a call 348 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: from one of my friends and she's like, I just 349 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: feel really badly because she's inviting everybody. But as you know, 350 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean in our group chat for the school, people 351 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: are already setting out save the dates for birthdays that 352 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: are happening in March and April, so people are planning ahead. 353 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of planning involved. So I'm blowing him up. 354 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm blowing the nanny up. I'm like, hey, this carnival 355 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: sounds amazing, Just to let you know, I don't want 356 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: you catching smoke from the school. You have to invite 357 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: the entire class. Well, no one responds. I have multiple 358 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: people saying that they can't go, and now I'm tabbing 359 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: into I'm pissed off because while this is amazing, you 360 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: have given people no time, and my daughter has walked 361 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: into school talking about this, inviting everybody she's going to 362 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: think tomorrow at her carnival, which at this point in 363 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: time she thinks is her birthday party, and no one 364 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: shows up that this is a her thing, and not 365 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: that her other parent just didn't send out the info 366 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: in time. And I'm trying to convey this over and 367 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: over again, and he's like, I think it's adorable that 368 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: she invited the whole class and her teachers, And in 369 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, it's not adorable. It's adorable that 370 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: she did that. They have no fucking details, all right, 371 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: So I'm angry. Then I get a call from Amber 372 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: that Riley has one hundred and three fever and is 373 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: suffering from the flu. And now I'm even more pissed 374 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: because not only did you not send out invites, but 375 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: you continue to have the party when my freaking child 376 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: was exposed to her sister. She's now going to expose 377 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: her friends, who are now going to expose everyone else. 378 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you have to keep her at your house. 379 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: My you know, Sosa is seventeen months old. She gets this. 380 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: This is a really big fucking problem. So I just 381 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: continue to try my best to keep everyone in the loop. 382 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: It is so hard to co parent. It is so 383 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: hard to navigate just like your child's feelings. I'm I'm 384 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: on edge, being like when she comes back to me, 385 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: she's resilient as fuck. You know this, mom, She's gonna 386 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: come back and she will have had the time of 387 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: her life. She could have had one friend show up 388 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: and all is good. But I just keep thinking, like, 389 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: thank God that ocean is the product of the two 390 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: of us, because if so so were the product of 391 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: the two of us, this would be really, really bad. 392 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Just knowing personality is. 393 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: A very delicate Yeah, this is delicate. You hurt her 394 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: feelings by telling her no, or putting your finger on her, 395 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: or you look at you look at her, tell her no. 396 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: She looks at you and goes whatever. There's just something 397 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: about words. Yeah, she listens, but you can't affect her. 398 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: I think everyone, I think everyone has experienced a point 399 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: in parenting where you explode and feel very badly about it. 400 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell a story and I don't care 401 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: if anyone judges me. It was not a proud moment. 402 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: I cried and prayed for many days because I felt 403 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: so terrible. But Ocean does not pick up. And this 404 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: has happened a really long time ago. Low are very low. 405 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: All right, Ocean's playroom was a mess, and I'm trying 406 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: to tell her you need to start picking up. So 407 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I pick up a toy and I stand up and 408 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: turn and I just smack my head on the corner 409 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: of the ceiling, and I'm like a little disoriented and 410 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: now very pissed off. I yell at her. I yell 411 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: at her, clean up your playroom in a very aggressive way. Okay. 412 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: At the end of me saying this three times, my 413 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: daughter puts up her two hands like this and goes okay, 414 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: like she was so unfazed by me. 415 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: Lauren went on a good thirty second random This is 416 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 3: why I asked you to pick up after yourself, so 417 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: there isn't a huge mess. 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: I tell you and. 419 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: Tell you, but I was very very toys. 420 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: And Ocean sits there for five seconds and goes okay. 421 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Like in other words, calm the fun doesn't care. 422 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: She's Laurence. Not only that, Lauren comes in, she has 423 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: to take a minute. 424 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: She's disoriented. She walks into her room. 425 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm just in there Ocean is doing no picking up, 426 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: by the way, She's just playing some more. 427 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: Unfaced Lauren comes back in. 428 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: La La comes back in after what five minutes and 429 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: continues to pick up the room after she had her moment. 430 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: After Lauren puts the last toy away, I see Ocean 431 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: go up to her and go, mom, I did it. 432 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: Oh I would have she did it. She did it. 433 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I had just cleaned up the entire playroom and she 434 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: looks around and goes. 435 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Mom, Mom, I did it. I did it. 436 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: The vap really helped me get through it. Oh, the 437 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: vape just all roads lead back to the vape. My 438 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: love Easton. Thank you so much for being here and 439 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: participating My loves. Thank you for listening to another episode 440 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: of Untraditionally, La La. I know being a parent is rough. 441 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I am here to tell you you're doing a fucking awesome job. 442 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Let's go out there and show our kids some love, 443 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: but show them who's boss. I'm gonna catch you guys 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: on Monday and again next week. 445 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: Bye bye,