1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 3: Everybody? 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to move the sticks? DJ Bucky back together again, Buck. 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: What's going on? 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Not too much. 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: DJ's having a good week. Can't complain. Just getting one 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: step closer to training camp. Got to be excited about that. 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no doubt, not that far away. We've got 10 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: the mini camps going on right now. Which do you remember? 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Were you a show up for all or were you 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Were you just there for the mandatory stuff back in 13 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: the day? 14 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, were you in the bottom of the ross? 15 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: You sure up for everything? 16 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: For the voluntary days, You're sure for anytime they have 17 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: food in the cafeteria, you're showing up. 18 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: So I was there for everything? How did that work? 19 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: By the way, back in the day, I know things 20 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: have changed a little bit, but like, give me an 21 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: example of what the what was the workout bonus for 22 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks back. 23 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Bonus, per diem whatever? Per diem? 24 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: What was the pre deem then? What was your prettyem 25 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: every day facility? What'd you get? 26 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I think back then, DJ, it's 27 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: laughable now. 28 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: I think it might have been either sixty to seventy 29 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: five dollars a day. 30 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't a lot. 31 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: So how was it was that like cashing an envelope 32 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: or was that just in a check. 33 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: I think it might have been a check. I think 34 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: it might have been a check back. 35 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: So it wasn't like a road game where you show 36 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: up and they give you the envelope with you. 37 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: No, but I do remember, so I've always said this. 38 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs on the Marty Schotenheimer, I think 39 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: did it the best in terms of how they got 40 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: buy in. So at the time you could only have 41 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: fourteen OTAs you have fourteen. But what they would do 42 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: is the OTA days were on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So 43 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna work on Tuesday, everyone comes 44 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: in the facility on Monday just to kind of get 45 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: a feel for what's going on. And if you're gonna 46 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: work on Thursday, you got to look at Wednesday. On Wednesday, 47 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you gotta look at the tape that happened on Tuesday, 48 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: so I know what's about to happen to me when 49 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I walk in on Thursday. So even though you're only 50 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: there for two days, you end up being there for 51 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: four days. Because you want to make sure that you're there. 52 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: So it's just subtle peer pressure. And what he did 53 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: is those two days went for seven weeks. So now 54 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Revenan two weeks of workouts. He was able to get 55 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: you there for seven weeks and so you had almost 56 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: like a spring ball. So basically he rented like a 57 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: college program. It was a spring ball. And so you're 58 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: lifting for those seven weeks and also doing all the 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: football stuff. 60 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: So man, that's different. Now, Oh you can't do that, boy, players. 61 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: Someone would be on the phone in the corner of 62 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: the locker room like. 63 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Hey Pa, yeah, this ain't it. Question the whole question 64 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: wherever the REP is gonna be very busy man, very 65 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: busy man. We're going to continue our off season themes 66 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: here where we're going through and having drafts today. We're 67 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: gonna do edge rushers. So we're gonna do edge rushers 68 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: for next season who we would want on our team. 69 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Five rounds. We'll go back and forth on that. I 70 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: will also take a look back at the twenty twenty 71 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: draft and do some hits and misses there which I've 72 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: decided today, but I'm just keeping it. First rounders. I've 73 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: been going a little bit deeper on some of these 74 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: today we're just going to go first rounders too. That 75 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I got right too, that I got wrong. 76 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: Your batting average has been very high on those, by 77 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: the way. 78 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: Really I'm surprised. 79 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Yes, eventually you're getting there. You're getting there on all 80 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: of them. Maybe an extra hint or two on a 81 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: couple of figuring out who these guys are for real. 82 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: But I want to I want to start out here 83 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: because we always talk about other sports, and we also 84 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: I feel like we try and let everybody know, get 85 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: ahead of the curve a little bit, let them know 86 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: what's coming, what the future looks like. I feel like 87 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: we've done pretty good job with that. I think an 88 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: example of it is we were talking about the S 89 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: two tests before anybody knew what S two test was 90 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: because of our interest in baseball and seeing where that 91 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: had come from. So I want to go back to 92 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: baseball here and see if we can't find another innovation. 93 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: I would argue, I don't know necessarily that it's good 94 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: for the game, but something that's going on there that 95 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: could translate over to the NFL, and that is an 96 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: An article by Tom Verducci on Sports Illustrated dot Com, 97 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: which is fascinating. I don't know if you had a 98 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: chance to read this morning, but it was about how, 99 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, we had this the astro scandal, banging the 100 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: trash can you know, stealing signs, and they were able 101 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: to code signs, you know, by using algorithms and different 102 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: things to figure out what what teams were doing and 103 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: then relay that information. 104 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: To the batter. 105 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: Well, if you saw the the Yankees game against the 106 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: Blue Jays where Judge hit the home runner right before 107 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 2: the pitch, his eyes darted towards the first base coach 108 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: and everybody so that he hits the home run, and 109 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: then they were they were saying, hey something, you know, 110 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: something's going on there, and then Judge was very aggressive 111 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: in his denial, you know, and so then it was okay. 112 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: It was explained by some baseball people that well, you know, 113 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: it's it's it's technically legal if you were like on 114 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: second base, if you're a base run on second base 115 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: and they're putting down signs and you can figure out 116 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: what the signs are, you can relay that to the batter. Now, 117 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: there might be vigilanti justice in terms if they find 118 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: out you're doing that, somebody gets hit and whatever. That's 119 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: the way he used to be. But that's within the rules. 120 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: You know, if you can, if you can in the 121 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: game live, then you figure out you can relate it. 122 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: That's on the catcher. You've got to be more you go, 123 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: you gotta be more aggressive and changing up your your signals. 124 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: But the other thing they could say is, well, you 125 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: also could have a first base coach or a third 126 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: base coach. He might see that the pitcher's tipping his pitches. 127 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: Like sometimes it can be posture related. Sometimes they were 128 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: telling the story in this article about I think it 129 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: was the when the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees for the 130 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: World Series. I think it was two thousand and one. 131 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: They knew every pitch that Andy Pettitt was throwing because 132 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: of where his hands would settle, like you know, if 133 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: it was settling low, it was a curveball. If it 134 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: was settling high, it was a fastball like it was 135 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: And that's within the rules because you're just trying to 136 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: find a tell I equate it. As we get over 137 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: to football, of seeing somebody that sets light, an offensive 138 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: lineman that doesn't have a lot of pressure on his hand, 139 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: you're like okay, this is a pass, and then everybody, 140 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: you know, one person on the defense is key in 141 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: that once he sees it, there's a word you communicate 142 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: and your whole defense knows whether it's running pass, which 143 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: is a huge, huge advantage for a defensive lineman if 144 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: he knows what's going on there. So this article talked 145 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: about now with all of the cameras, they've got thirty cameras. 146 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: Some of these teams. Not all teams have this technology, 147 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: but some of them do. Is thirty cameras. So you 148 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: have fifteen cameras locked in on a picture, and it's 149 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: to the whole theory of it is it can really 150 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: help with mechanics. And then you can see if a 151 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: picture's getting tired. You can see like the angle of 152 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: his elbow. They can say, okay, man, he's dropped his elbow. 153 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: Now he's at ninety pitches. Like they would know before 154 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: a coach would like, okay, get him out. He's tired, 155 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: his mechanics are changing. He's going to get hurt. But 156 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: what they're saying in this article is what they're doing 157 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: is they have these overlay of all these of all 158 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: these shots, and then they run it through an artificial 159 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: intelligence thing, and they can find, okay, what's different, what's 160 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: different on this one pitch, and it's like, oh, that's 161 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: a curve. Every time, every time his posture is here, 162 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: every time, you know, whatever it is, this little tiny 163 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: thing changes that means that it's a certain pitch. Then 164 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: that information can get to the third base coach. That 165 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: information then gets to the batter. And so I'm sitting 166 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: here thinking about this, and one of the examples that 167 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: uses it says, when you throw a split finger pitch, 168 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, you have to spread your hand out, and 169 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: so that was one of the cameras was picking up 170 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: that this forearm was kind of flex So if you're 171 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: a right handed pitcher, the third base coach could see 172 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: your forearm flexed. And then they said he might have 173 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: one hand on his hip to let the batter know, okay, 174 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: this is a split finger. Like it's crazy. So the 175 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: thing that I thought of was, what's to say you 176 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: couldn't do this in football just in terms of just 177 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: getting the tell of run or pass if you have 178 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: cameras honed in on every single player along that line, 179 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: instead of having an analyst like what every team does, 180 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: especially like college football, they have analysts. You're trying and 181 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: with the naked eye to try and find a tell, 182 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: But then you had all this technology and to be 183 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: able to use that to be able to get a 184 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: tell like that. I mean, I don't see why the 185 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: NFL somebody's not going to be that aggressive and try 186 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: and do something like that. 187 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: No, it has to be coming because DJ, we all 188 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: already know that teams will look at the TV copy 189 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: of games to see if they can match up the 190 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: audio calls with the hand signals. Did they gleam off 191 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: of the all twenty two? And so someone is looking 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: at some of those tapes and remember when. 193 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: People what about what about AI? 194 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: Though? 195 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: Like to me like it used to what you just said. 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: Listening to those TV calls. It's one thing to be like, okay, 197 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm notating, Okay, well this was a color. That was 198 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: a color, This was a color. Okay, maybe that's a color, 199 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: is this there or the other? But artificial intelligence could 200 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: do it like that. 201 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 202 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: So it's a scary time going all the way back 203 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: to Spygate and what the Patriots I guess I guess 204 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: they did. When you're talking about taping opposing guys signals 205 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: and those things. DJ, We've always been one or two 206 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: steps away from what it is that you're talking about. 207 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: And so we see now every play caller that is 208 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: about to step to the call sheet, they cover their 209 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: mouths and they're doing all this other stuff we've seen 210 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: in the National Football League sometimes placards have made their way. 211 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I think the only way that you can start to 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: get rid of some of that stuff. How long before 213 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: we put earpieces in everybody's health. 214 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's the point, that's the takeaway. That's it's you 215 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: should be doing that. You're gonna have to do that 216 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: because this stuff is going to start coming into play. 217 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, how long before we just a coach calls it 218 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: on Milwaukee talkie, he goes in everybody's ear, everyone goes 219 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: and runs the play. 220 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we do it? 221 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: From an expense standpoint, yeah, you got to pay for 222 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: the extra equipment, but I would say it's advantageous to 223 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: be able to do it. If you don't want sign 224 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: stilling to be a part of what we're doing in 225 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: the league, you have to make sure that. And let's 226 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: be honest, with gambling and all that other stuff. You 227 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: gotta protect the brand and you better have some things 228 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: already baked into the rules to protect the brand against 229 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: himself because you know, man, you just all it takes 230 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: is one or two guys to kind of crack the 231 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: code and then lead becomes a completely different lead. 232 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: Did you ever get anything from your time on the 233 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball off of a receiver in 234 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: terms of a tell like oh, like like oh, if 235 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: I do my gloves, or if they break the huddle, 236 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: they break the huddle on there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 237 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they break the huddle. 238 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys would switch their stands because some guys that 239 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: have their outside foot back, but then all of a 240 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: sudden on a certain route, they may switch it in 241 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: their inside foot is back because of the timing on 242 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: the things. You're always looking for those things. Part of 243 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: being a good player is looking for that stuff. 244 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: That may be non obvious. 245 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, every time this guy sets and 246 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: he kind of sets back and rocks in his hill 247 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: this tackle it's a pass set or you're always looking 248 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: for those things. I remember, it's funny used to talk 249 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: about you were just talking about like the splip finger 250 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: and deflection. 251 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: In the in the arms. 252 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Well, sometimes DJ when you're looking at linemen and you 253 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: can tell, man, their knuckles are white knuckle down, they're 254 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: coming off the ball as opposed to them being super 255 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: light and sitting back where they're about to pass it. 256 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: You're looking for anything. 257 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean when you come from an error where they 258 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: used to say if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. 259 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: You look at every competitive advantage that you can find, 260 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: and if people are giving it away, if they're giving 261 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the game away, you want to make sure that you 262 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: cash it. 263 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think about it from the 264 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: standpoint of even how I mean, I guess quarterbacks are 265 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: not under center as much, but you know just how 266 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: the stagger and their stances could tell you. But I mean, 267 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm just saying now instead of having to devote manpower 268 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: and saying we got ten guys who were coming through 269 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: this video to see if they can find something, Now 270 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: you can just run it through you know, the computer, 271 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: and the computer can spit that out and tell you, oh, 272 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, this is what every time that this guy 273 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: was at this split, then this is what. You know 274 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: he's running eighty five to ninety percent of the time. 275 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's a lot of it. So I can 276 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: tell you this. 277 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: So and I regret this to my day because like 278 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: it's one of the thing to like have the knowledge, 279 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: it's another thing to pull the trigger. And so preseason game, 280 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm playing for Jacksonville. We are playing the San Francisco 281 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: forty nine ers out in San Francisco. It might have 282 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: been ninety seven year and you know, like preseason game, 283 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: everyone says you don't game plan. Well, when you were playing, 284 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to make the team. You better game plan, 285 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: you better look at tap whatever. And so DJ, Steve Young, 286 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: and Jerry Rice are playing. So I'm playing in the 287 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: first quarter of the game, and it was almost like 288 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: one hundred percent when the ball is on this part 289 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: of the field. If Jerry Rice lines up at the 290 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: bottom of the numbers, it's like the middle bottom of 291 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the numbers. 292 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, because NFL numbers are higher. He's running a speed out. 293 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: And if he lies up, particularly on the defensive right, 294 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: because Steve Young was left handed, there's that. 295 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: So DJ, we get into the preseason. 296 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Game and it's kind of like a two minute drill 297 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there and I'm like, man, Jerry Rice 298 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: has lined up in this spot. Man, I've seen this 299 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: tape like they've done it like a million times. Like 300 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: I think this is the out, but DJ, the guy 301 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to get cut, doesn't pull the trigger. Yeah, 302 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: take that risk, so they run the out. Now I 303 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: make the play because I have pictures, they're pictures online, 304 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the Getty images of me hitting Jerry Rice on the thing. 305 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: But if I had just pulled the trigger, DJ, I 306 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: might have. 307 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: Been able to extend it. Pick six, Did you make 308 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: the team? Then you're like, hey, maybe he plays longer. 309 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: But because I'm that scared. So when you're looking for tails, 310 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: is one thing to discover the till it's another thing 311 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: to act on. And so my regret from preseason playing 312 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: days is back in ninety seven, I didn't. 313 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Pull the trigger. 314 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I could have picked off Steve Younger, Hall of Famer, 315 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: and I would have kept the ball and then behind 316 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: me you would send the ball. 317 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: Oh where I picked Steve young on Jerry Rice. 318 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: And I've been able to tell my kids and my grandkids, 319 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: your dad was a great corner even though he wasn't. 320 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: But it would have been a great story. 321 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: That's fascinating, man, That's that's fantastic. But I mean, that's 322 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: a great thing it's like information and knowledge, but then 323 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: you got to you gotta have the courage in those 324 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: instances play. Yeah, it's easy to have the courage when 325 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: you got a roster spot already secured, you know what 326 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to worried about it. Hey, I'll 327 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: take I'll take my chances. But I mean I think 328 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: that baseball is so. I mean, baseball has been in 329 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: IVY league sport in terms of personnel departments for a 330 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: while now, so they've they've been ahead of the curve 331 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: on that stuff. Whereas football, we still have the majority 332 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: of them are football guys who kind of grew up 333 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: in football. Not saying we don't have smart general managers absolutely, 334 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean, but it's analytical. It's an analytical approach and 335 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: a data approach, data data or whatever you want to 336 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: call it, as opposed to kind of a pure football approach. 337 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: But like one of the things in this article it's said, 338 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: or actually this was a different article talking about this, 339 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: you dreve Sho pitches for the padres he got, he's 340 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: had he had had a run of like thirty six 341 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: starts where he'd gone at least five innings. He goes 342 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: up to the Yankees, Buck and they shell him in 343 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: like two innings. And I'm sitting here watching this. I 344 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: watch all their game like he has to be tipping 345 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: his pitches. There's no way they don't know. Like he's 346 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: he he always goes five six innings. He always gives 347 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: up fewer three runs. And they got to him and 348 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: they were hit. Everything they hit was hard. I mean, 349 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: so he stead. They asked him, so, now they have 350 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: these pitch coms, right, so catcher has it in the pitcher, 351 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Well he has. He's notorious for having a bunch of pitches. 352 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: So he calls his own pitches. So he's got that 353 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: thing on his belt and he pushes the button and 354 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: that lets the catcher know. But he said, so this 355 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: is what I did not know. 356 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: About this, they said. 357 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: He said, if you're throwing an off speed pitch, all 358 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: you do is push, you know, change up, curveball, slider, 359 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: it's one push. If you're throwing a fastball, it's location, 360 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,359 Speaker 2: so it's fastball, and then another button push, which. 361 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: Is oh, double push. 362 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: So his the. 363 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Theory is the Yankees just had those cameras on him 364 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: and knew like, oh, he hit it twice, that's a fastball. Yeah, 365 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: And then so he has to figure out what So 366 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: he's got a fake push the button on every single 367 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: thing to do two touches. But I'm like Baseball's they're 368 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: always looking for all this stuff. I kind of hate 369 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: it because I wish it was just who's the better man, 370 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, who's not who has all the technology to 371 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: go on here and try and make this thing work. 372 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: But I'm like, it's gonna leak over to football at 373 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: some point in time. 374 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: So you remember, and they say this, and we'll say this, 375 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: God risks his soul. But they said that Howard mug 376 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Is still signs like nobody's business. They say, like with 377 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis coach back in the day that they were 378 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: snuffing out all the signs. To the point that I've 379 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: heard Rex run and Dennis Thurmann they've told me this. Yeah, 380 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: they would change their wristbands every quarter. So you know 381 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: how you have guys say hey, we're green one, so 382 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: you look at your wristband, green column, first place sheet. 383 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: They said, at the. 384 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: End of every quarter, when you come together to get 385 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: the water, new wristbands, passing out new wristbands was so 386 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: what was green one is now red three? And all 387 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: that other stuff because you had to keep them off 388 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: the set. And it's one of the things that you're 389 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: talking about. If you're not always aware self scouting and 390 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: those things, you can fall into the trap of allowing yourself. 391 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: To get skunked. That's what we call it. You get skunked. 392 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: So people are skunking guys and so you got you 393 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: Jarvis got skunked. But yeah, reportedly got skunked by the 394 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Yankees where they're all on this stuff because you're looking 395 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: at the thing. I used to always wonder this, like 396 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: back in the day when we're watching games and the catcher, 397 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: you know how the camera we're be in center field, 398 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: so you can see the catcher get pointed in this 399 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: and that. And then they talk about if you get 400 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: a runner on second base and he's leaning off, but he's. 401 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: We were doing when I was when I was in 402 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: the little league, like when I was eleven twelve years old, 403 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: like they were teaching us, like you be on second 404 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: base and you know, a little league, they don't know 405 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: it's just one two, you know, fastball, curveball, So you'd 406 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: be leading off with your hands open. It meant like 407 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: it was a fastball. If your fists were closed, and 408 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: who teaches an eleven and twelve year old is steal signs? 409 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 3: Like that's what this sport is. 410 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: Like what in the world. But anyways, no vigilanti justice 411 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: when it's Carl's Truck and Auto Repair versus Into Electric, 412 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: you know. But these kids don't know. Now they got 413 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: like real names of real teams, like we were just 414 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: sponsored by local businesses. That was the name of really 415 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: my little league team, Buck Carl's Truck and Auto Repair. 416 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: Was on that. 417 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: I don't know how they fitted on the hat. That 418 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: was the name of the little league team. 419 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: So my team, God, and I love baseball comingu it 420 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: was like my favorite sport. 421 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 422 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I played for Pine State, which was uh it was 423 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: like a like a milk delivery service. So it was 424 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: like a little like a pine Tree. And our uniforms 425 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: were maroon and great. So I remember playing for Pine 426 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: State and my my dad played softball, and so I 427 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: remember it was like rust these detail right. 428 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: Perfects, these detail black and gray and all the other stuff. 429 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, they don't do that anymore. Everyone's the Angels. 430 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Or the Dodgers's fun. You don't like it, Let's go 431 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: back to the sponsors. Let's go back to calls trucking. 432 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: You know. 433 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: This is San Diego. I might really responded by a 434 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: truck and auto repair company. Really, come on, man, I 435 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: couldn't get in like no insurance company or nothing like that. 436 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: No, oh my gosh, say beautiful. 437 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's say quick break, we're gonna come 438 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Back'll knock out this edge rusher draft and do a 439 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: little hits and missus right after this. All right, buck, 440 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: let's jump in here edge rusher draft. You went first 441 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: the other day, d tackle, So I am up first here. 442 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: And there are a ton of talented edgereshers to choose from. 443 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and go with the forty nine 444 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: er Nick Bosa with my first pick. I believe he's 445 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: the best edge rusher in the NFL. I think he's 446 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: the best leverage rusher that I've ever seen in terms 447 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: of being able to get in. I'd get underneath guys. 448 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: You see how powerfully built he is with his legs, 449 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: He's able to just get under people and drive them. 450 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: He's got every every hand technique in the book. You'll 451 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: see risk control, You'll see his brother's famous double swipe. 452 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: He can get home in so many different ways. But really, 453 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: to me, it's the combination of that burst off the 454 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: ball and the pure power that he possesses. To me, 455 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, when healthy and on the field, I think 456 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: he's the most dominant player. 457 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: Dominant player and you alluded to his brother the past. 458 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: Rushing is the family business. Those guys are so technically 459 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: signed and you think about both of those guys coming 460 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State and how they just got it 461 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the ability to play with their hands, 462 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: the way they were able to set people up. It 463 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: has only gotten better for Nick Bosa since he's been 464 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: a pro. I can't knock you to do it this fantastic. 465 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: He's a dominant player. And to think that he is 466 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: coming off he came off in acl and was able 467 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: to be right back to being a dominant player, it 468 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: just speaks volumes about not only the player, but the 469 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: technician that he is. 470 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go my first pick. 471 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: It's funny because you always want like the super talented 472 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: athlete off the edge and hope that he has enough 473 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: skill to do it. Miles Garrett from the Cleveland Browns 474 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: is everything. Number one overall pick, and I'll be honest, 475 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: when he came out of Texas A and M he 476 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: was more athlete than I would say polish player. He 477 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: is now combined too. He has added some technique to 478 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: his game to make him a very disruptive and effective playmaker. 479 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: If I'm building a defense and we're looking for an 480 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: edge player to kind of put down to attack off 481 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: the black side of the quarterback, Miles Garrett is the 482 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: guy that I will want. 483 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also heads up to the National Football League. 484 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett being in that scheme with Jim Schwartz with 485 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: the wide nine and an attack front, don't be shocked 486 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: if he's your defensive player of the year. That is 487 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: a perfect marriage between player and scheme. 488 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: How about this? And I know we're talking about the pastors. 489 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz is on record saying, Yeah, we're gonna be 490 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a man a man, and we're gonna blitz five every play. 491 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, why are we just gonna broadcast 492 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: that you're ever gonna be a man most of the 493 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: time and we're going to blitz five every play. 494 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: And the reason why you want to. 495 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Blitz five is you want to one on one matchup 496 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: so as not just to get somebody free. But as 497 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure that you have to go one 498 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: on one with our guy, and our guy's better. 499 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: Th New York guy, so he can get a million sacks. 500 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: No, I love that. I love your pick there, Miles Garrett. 501 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: All right, second round, here my second pick. We've got 502 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa off the board. We've got Miles Garrett off 503 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: the board. You talked about Nick Bosa being part of 504 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: the family business with pass rush. I'm gonna stay with 505 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: that theme. I'm gonna go with TJ Watt. Someone else 506 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: who learned from big brother and who is a dominant 507 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: player went out there. TJ again can win with speed. 508 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: He's loose, he can bend at the top of his rush. 509 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: He's got a great feel and sense to me pass rushes. 510 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about being an art form as 511 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: a technician, it's also just a feel thing you overset. 512 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: He's gonna sense it, he's gonna feel it, he's gonna 513 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: cross your face, and he's gonna win underneath. He is 514 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: all around player. I know we're talking a lot about 515 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: these guys. His past rush, TJ. Watt can set the edge. 516 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: All three of these guys we've talked about so far, 517 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: excellent against the run, as well in terms of their 518 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: ability to set a firm edge and hold up there 519 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: on the outside. So I'm gonna go TJ Watt with 520 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: my pick. 521 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: Ooh, I like. 522 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: It, I mean I like it. That was the guy 523 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: that I was contemplating take him first. It's just a 524 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett at lessons and made it where man I 525 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: kind of happy to take him. But TJ Watt, Nick Bosa, 526 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: both guys are really continuing to keep the family business 527 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: thriving because they are dominant players, and I mean, who's 528 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: to say they may end up being better than their predecessors, 529 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: which speaks volumes about both of the Joey and JJ 530 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Watt coming into the league. So my turn, this is 531 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: crazy because I never thought this guy was gonna be 532 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: the pastors that he's turned out to be. But how 533 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: about mad you Don from New England Patriots. You think 534 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: about what he was with the Baltimore Ravens DJ he 535 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: never had double digit sass when he's with the Ravens. 536 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: He goes to the New England Patriots back to back years, 537 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: he's not only been over with double digits, but he's 538 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: a mass twenty eight sacks in that period and for 539 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't really blits a lot. They've allowed Matt, 540 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: you done to kind of figure out a way to 541 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: get busy on four man rushes, his length, his athleticism, 542 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: and I will say this, his craftiness as a pass 543 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: rusher has really stood out for me since I've seen 544 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: him join the Patriots. Because of that, I'm gonna take 545 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: him with my second pick. 546 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: All right, Matt Judon is a big time, big time pick. 547 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: There. 548 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: You talked about the production there with the Patriots. Somebody 549 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: have to game plan for when you're playing against that team. 550 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: I need to go to the judge. Isn't the bill 551 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: to judge? Are we going to use the Bill as 552 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: a judge here? 553 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: Real quick? 554 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Can we bring the Bill in? Give me any o 555 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: the thud? 556 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: See, I was gonna go to the judge because I 557 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: know where you're going. I know where you're going. I 558 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: know where you're going. He's alive, Micah Parsons. Are we 559 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: listening him as an edge rusher or are we going 560 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: to put him in our off the ball linebacker group. 561 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Let's put him as an edge rusher. Oh but he's alive. 562 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, Hey, the judge is spoken. The judge is thank 563 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: you to Bill close close the box. Okay, ne Bill 564 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: is gone. I'm gonna go ahead and take Michael Parsons. 565 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: What a steal. 566 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh my god. I cannot believe he's there at five. 567 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: So then when we talk, you passed on him, and 568 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: when they when they passed, well, I mean I was 569 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: trying to keep you pure because I'm looking at him. 570 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Michael Parsons, but he's an inside linebacker. 571 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: We're not gonna put him there. But okay, he's. 572 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: Coming off the edge. We see him come off the 573 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: edge a good bet. Uh, he can win as a 574 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: rusher on games from the inside if you want. But 575 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: just coming off the edge. We've said it before, like 576 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: if you just let him rush out there full time, 577 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: he might get twenty sacks. Like he's that gifted. There's 578 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: nothing on the football field he cannot do. And thanks 579 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: to Judge no Bile, I have just landed Micah Parsons 580 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: to team up with Nick Bosa and t J. Watt. 581 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: My team stacked, absolutely stacked. 582 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, your team is ridiculous because you're over here playing. 583 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: You should have gone to judge. 584 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: You're playing position to judge. 585 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: Well one, I thought Bill had a little more courage 586 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: to be able to put you in your. 587 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: Place and be like, no, you can't do that, DJ. 588 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: You can't just make up the rules as as you 589 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: go when it comes to this kind of stuff. 590 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't hurt to ask. It doesn't hurt 591 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: to ask. And look at that Christmas gift that he 592 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: just gave me right there, Thank you to Bill. 593 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's so ridiculous. 594 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Nady, we got guys playing anything. 595 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey No, like, yeah, I mean I might as well, 596 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: just like like Jamal Adams is a pass rusher for 597 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: all I know, he just comes off the edge. Look, 598 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Hasson Reddick with my pick. 599 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: And to think about Hasson Reddick. 600 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: Like if you, if you, if you go back and 601 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: look at the last three years, I don't know if 602 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: there's been a more productive pass rusher in All League. 603 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you think double digit sacks in each of 604 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: the last three years. He's accounted for thirty nine and 605 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: a half sacks during that span. In last year he 606 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: had sixteen. And the thing that about it, DJ, he's 607 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: done it in three different schemes what he played in 608 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: and Arizona was different than what he played in in Carolina, 609 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: which was different than what they did in Philadelphia. So 610 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: now you have to give him his just due. And 611 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: for him to be a guy who had temple was 612 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: a safety that made his way down to the edge. 613 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: It speaks volumes about his ability to master the craft 614 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher and continue to build upon the 615 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: game once he got into the pros, and even then 616 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: it took the coaches a while to figure out how 617 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: to best utilize him. Now he's one of the best 618 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: in the business when it comes to knocking the quarterback down. 619 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: He's really opened the door too, because you think about 620 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: Drew Brees, what he did for some of the undersized quarterbacks, 621 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: and that kind of ushered in this whole new era 622 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: of guys. It's not Reddick playing under two hundred and 623 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: forty pounds and doing what he's doing consistently is really 624 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: opened some doors. Open some doors for his new teammate 625 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: Nolan Smith, who just took in the first round. So 626 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: now he's a phenomenal football player. All right, So you've 627 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: got Garrett Judon, you just came back with Reddick. I've 628 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: got some interesting options here. But I'll tell you what 629 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: I see this guy twice a year. 630 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I already know where you're going. I gotta go. 631 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to mad Max Crosby here for what he 632 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: brings that. I mean, our buddy Brian Baldinger calls him 633 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: the Condor. He's got crazy length. He you know, in 634 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: terms of relentless, he is relentless. And if you're looking 635 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: for the comp for what he is and this generation, 636 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: all you gotta do is go back one and look 637 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: at what Jared Allen did in this league. I think 638 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: he's this new version of Jared Allen who never stops, 639 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: uses his length. He's got speed, he's got power, But 640 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: to me, it's the relentlessness that sets him apart. So 641 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go big mad Max Crosby here. 642 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: Okay, Mad Max, I understand it. I can see why 643 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: he would be in the list. I love his motor, 644 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: just the energy that he brings off the edge and 645 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: how he's been able to do it. Last year he 646 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: had to do it solo. They bring over Chandler Jones. 647 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: You think that Chandler Jones is gonna give him that 648 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: compliment where he'll get some one on once didn't happen, 649 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: Mad Max Steele was able to give you twelve and 650 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a half sacks for a team that really didn't play 651 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: with the lead. 652 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: So imagine what could happen if they played from a hit. 653 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: So, DJ, by the way, hold on, hold on breaking news. 654 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: Why don't you go ahead and read that little nugget 655 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: that the bill just popped in the chat there? Buck, 656 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: why don't you go ahead and read that one for everybody? 657 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Uh? Par Parsons, Michael Parsons per next g instats aligned 658 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: as an edge or did he align as an edge? 659 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Or he was just on the edges at linebacker seventy 660 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: eight seventy eight percent of the time. So we're saying 661 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: that Michael Parsons is an edge, even though when I 662 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: watched the game, and you know, they do the opening 663 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: the starting lineups and they run out of the tunnel 664 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: and they're like Michael Parsons, it's always from Penn State linebacker. 665 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons not edge. 666 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's an alledge. 667 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: Well, TJ. 668 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Watts the same, Hassan Reddick as a stand up out 669 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: there on the outside, do that as an edge? 670 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: Their edge rushers? Look? 671 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Hey, facts over feelings, Buck, facts over feelings. I mean, 672 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 2: he just put the number in there seventy eight percent. 673 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what a steal of. 674 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: A pick I know. 675 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to extend this out and be able 676 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: to announce Derwin James as my next age rusher, Like 677 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's where we're getting to, and this is. 678 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: The positionless ball. 679 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: So I just want one of our listeners, one of 680 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: our devoted listeners, to make sure that they tweet this 681 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: out after we say it, because we've caught a lot 682 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: of flak from this player's family members about not giving 683 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: him enough love. And so I'm gonna go with Brian 684 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: Burns from the Carolina Panthers with my next pick. Brian Burns, 685 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: who is look we have been I guess they say 686 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: we don't give him enough love and attention. We just 687 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: said that he was a speed rusher and more of 688 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: a one trick pony. I will say that if that 689 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: trick is nice, there's nothing wrong with just having won 690 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: in your bag. Brian Burns had twelve and a half 691 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: sacks for the Carolina Pathers last year, first time he 692 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: reached double digits. 693 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: He had nine sacks the year before. 694 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: And what you like about him is every year his 695 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: game is going up a notch and for a team 696 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: that people are talking about emerging as a sneaky playoff team, 697 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: a sneaky contender. Brian Burns should have a big year 698 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: because if this offense can put us some points defensively, 699 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: they got enough talent to be a playoff team. 700 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: A lot of it would rest on his shoulders. 701 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: As a top five edge rusher, Brian Burns deserves some consideration. 702 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: Yep. 703 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: He's been consistently disruptive and productive with that speed that 704 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: he possesses, also has some length. He will flash the power, 705 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: doesn't do it a lot. He flashes it, but you 706 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: know it's all about speed with him. All Right, my 707 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: last pick here, I'm gonna book in my draft. I 708 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: got a Bosa with my first pick, and I'm gonna 709 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: come back with a Bosa here with my fifth pick. 710 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with with Joey Bosa. I know he's 711 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: not coming off the year he wanted. I know you 712 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: have injuries that have kind of littered his career. I 713 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: think that again, we're drafting for next year. I think Bosa, 714 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a big year for him. Stay healthy, 715 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: stay out there on the field, get back to being 716 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: what he's been when he's rolling, which is you know, 717 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: I think he's he's always a joked that his boat 718 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: would be named the double swipe. He's been, he's been 719 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: a master of and it's been a dominant player with 720 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: that move, and I just want to see him stay 721 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: out there. I hear stories. 722 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: I would love to see it. 723 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: By the way, I hear stories about them in Florida 724 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: in the offseason, they literally go to a local park 725 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: and just work on pass rush every day, him and 726 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: his brother. So you used to go out there and 727 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: see both both of brothers out there to Can you 728 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: imagine that you're out there like, yeah, just gonna take 729 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: a go for a little jog around the neighborhood. You 730 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: see the neighborhood park, and there's there's Timmy and Jimmy 731 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: swinging on the swing set, and then there's there's a 732 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: two of the premier players in the NFL out there 733 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: on that patch of grass, just just just repping pass rush. 734 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: That's the family business. 735 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: The family business is definitely productive. 736 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Is uh is one of those things where I mean, 737 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: look everybody in the family, Dad, you know, some uncles, 738 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: some other people, like they play in the league and 739 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: they play well, and so he I mean, he may 740 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: be outshine right now by his younger brother, but he 741 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: certainly is deserving of a lot of praise. 742 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 743 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Final guy, I'm gonna go off the grid a little 744 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: bit only because I think people forgot about this guy 745 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Quietly last year he had 746 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks. Danil Hunter from the Minnesota 747 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: and Vikings. 748 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: You know DJ. 749 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: When you think about Danil Hunter, it is all about 750 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: the for Dutch and that he has had. And it's 751 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: taken him a while because he sat out all the 752 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty He comes back twenty twenty one, he has 753 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: six sacks in seven games, and then last year ten 754 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. I believe he is going to 755 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: take his game up because Brian floor Is comes over 756 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and if you know anything about Brian Floy's defense, they 757 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: can put pressure on you to go find a way 758 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: to create these one on one matchups. And so Danil 759 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: Hunter is a certified baller. He reminds people why he 760 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: was a legitimate Pro Bowl player for multiple seasons in 761 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: the past. 762 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: There you go, I like it. Well, that finishes it up. 763 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: Pret's let's go over the results here. I've got Nick Bosa, 764 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: TJ Watt, a judge's decision to give me Micah Parsons 765 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: in the third round, Max Crosby and Joey Bosa. Bucky 766 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: comes away with Miles Garrett, Matt Judon, Hassan Reddick, who's 767 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: been as productive as anybody, Brian Burns, and Danil Hunter. 768 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: So there is our edge rusher draft. I believe we 769 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: said what we have linebackers coming up next. Michael Parsons 770 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: will not be eligible for that buck time. 771 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: I guess not. 772 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael ports this is not is that elvisible 773 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: to play even though that's where I see him line 774 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: up first play with every game. 775 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: He's lined up right in between the pipes. 776 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: But okay, all right, hey, next gen stats, final answer. 777 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: That's it. 778 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: That's all. 779 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like saying in hockey, we're we're 780 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: we're releasing the goalie. But hey, I'm gonna put the 781 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: goalie as a defenseman now when I'm making All Star 782 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: votes because he's out because we pulled him the last 783 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: the last quarter in a desperation situation. 784 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 2: Hey take it up with a judge. 785 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: Man. 786 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: The bill made his ruling, he is ruling his finals, 787 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: all right, let's do hits and misses before we jump 788 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: out of here. We're gonna go twenty twenty draft. Let's 789 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: I'll start you off with this one. Here. We're gonna 790 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: go first one. We'll do the hits first, So two hits, 791 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: first one. Here, we're gonna go wide receiver again. These 792 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: are all first round picks. This was my top wide 793 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: receiver in the draft. He was six ZHO one five. 794 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: He ran four or five flat, tall, lean, excellent hands, 795 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: toughness and production. Can play inside outside the average play speed. 796 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: I have yak with exclamation points on it because of 797 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: the toughness and competitiveness with the ball in his hands. 798 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: Coming off a good year, He's had a really good career. 799 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: He was my ninth overall player. He was the seventeenth 800 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 2: pick in this draft. See if you can remember twenty 801 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: twenty who that would be? 802 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: Well Man, Now you're gonna make it. We gave me 803 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: the pick. I'm gonna go to the Dallas Cowboys and 804 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. 805 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: Like he give me the pick anymore? Yeah, giving me 806 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: a pick anymore? 807 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: I mean I appreciate you. 808 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: Remember off memory, I was gonna challenge it. 809 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Or yeah, like Ceedee Lamb comes in You know, DJ, 810 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: here's the thing about Ceedee Lamb, the fact that he 811 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: was the third receiver taken in that draft, and you 812 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: go back and you look and you think about all 813 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: the things that he did at Oklahoma in terms of 814 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: how terrific he was with the ball in his hands. 815 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cowboys have fully explored that 816 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: part of his game. There are so many things that 817 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: he can do besides take the long ball and do 818 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: the other stuff. We haven't seen a lot of catch 819 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: and run concepts shall across his quick slants where we've 820 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: seen him get loose, and so I would like to 821 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: see him that. To me, he has all the makings 822 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: of a top five receiver. He just hasn't necessarily been 823 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: put in a place to do that consistently with the Cowboys. 824 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Maybe this is the year that he gets into the 825 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: ranks of the elite. When we started talking about him 826 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: in his game, you. 827 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: Start looking at some of these other drafts, you were 828 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: reminded of, gosh, just how small the receivers were in 829 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: this current draft. I mean Seedee Lamb, who you look 830 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: at and think he looks skinny. He's one hundred and 831 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: ninety eight pounds coming out. We got a bunch of 832 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy pound wide receivers in this last draft. 833 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: So a big receiver who was very loose and fluid 834 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: and uh and tough. So uh that was a hit there, 835 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: all right. This next one, I lied. I said all 836 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: these guys were first round picks, that this one was 837 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: not a first round pick. He was a top three 838 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: round pick. Okay, so top three round pick. I'm basically 839 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: giving you saying he's going to be a second or 840 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: third round pick. That's your clue. It's not a first 841 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: round This is a linebacker. He was six zho two 842 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: one two forty one. He ran four six three. I 843 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: uh talked about him here inside linebacker, twitchy and rangy. 844 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,479 Speaker 2: He's excellent in coverage, which is always a great sign 845 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: when you're evaluating linebacker, because he can tackle on space, 846 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: he can change directions, he's fluid, excellent. FBI had had 847 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: a beautiful six versus Jordan Love, and I compared him 848 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: to Fred Warner. He was my fifty fourth player. He 849 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: went later than that, So I'm gonna classify this night. 850 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: So DJ have stuck between two guys. I'm stuck between 851 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: a guy from Mississippi State. But then you gave me 852 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: the thing with Jordan Love. Now, I don't know if 853 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: they played. I don't know if they played. I can't remember, 854 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: but they're both are out west. And then I'm thinking 855 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: of why I'm in Cowboy. Maybe Logan Wilson. 856 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: How about it? 857 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: He was one of one of the other you gave 858 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: me to Jordan Love. It was the Jordan Love clue 859 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: you gave him to Jordan Love pick. I was like, ooh, 860 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: Missisippi State. I'm sure they're not whopping up on Utah State. 861 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, see that's again. I leave a little bread 862 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: crumbs there, and you're and you're you're really playing Logan 863 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: hey man, Can I tell you how much I love 864 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Logan Wilson When he was coming, I did too, like 865 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: I didn't just just everything. And I loved him so 866 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: much that I fell in love with his teammateer the 867 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: guy that came shortly there after, Chad Mooma. And just 868 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: in terms of like the way they play it, like athleticism. 869 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: Big linebacker, right, These big off the linebackers can fly, 870 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: range to catch balls, make plays, all of those things. 871 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan Wilson, we're my faves. Yep, all right. 872 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to the two misses here. This first one 873 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: is an offensive lineman who went in the first round 874 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: six oh five one three, fifteen five, twenty two. He 875 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: was my eighteenth overall player. He went higher than that 876 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: and has played well left tackle, thick, powerful, said average quickness, 877 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: got strong punch and anchor excellent FBI. He's dominant in 878 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: the run game. He can uproot. I did not think 879 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: he was great change of direction athlete, didn't have outstanding 880 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: ben more of a one track guy. But so I 881 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: wasn't as high on him as I should have been. 882 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: He's been a good player. 883 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: M you are high on him? 884 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: Well, I say he's my eighteenth player, and he went 885 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: higher than that. 886 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 4: Jeez, I don't know, man. 887 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: It's like I killed him my many. I gave him 888 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: eighteen point player, top twenty player. 889 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: Can I get a lifeline? 890 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: Can I get Can I get a Can I get 891 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: another one? 892 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: You want to hint? 893 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 2: Do you want to hint? 894 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: I want? 895 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: Okay? He uh? He played at a powerhouse Powerhouse program. 896 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 4: Powerhouse program, powerhouse program. 897 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: Can I get his college jersey number? 898 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: I believe seventy eight? 899 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: Oh, holy smokes, seventy eight don't quote me on that. 900 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: I believe that's what happened. Seventy eight he played at 901 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 4: a powerhouse program. 902 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so many guys are at the top eighteen there, buck. 903 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: I know what I'm sitting here thinking, seventy eight? Is 904 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: that Tristan Wohoo's seventy eight? 905 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: I'm looking up to see if this I'm looking up 906 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 2: an image to see of this player college? No, no, 907 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: sorry sorry? And uh he was seventy one. He wore 908 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: seventy one in college? 909 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: Is that Jagig Wills? 910 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 2: He wears seventy eight in the NFL? 911 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I too many, It's too many guesses. Who 912 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: is it? 913 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: So? 914 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: I got you on this one, Andrew Thomas. Oh my gosh, 915 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 2: so Andrew Thomas. So Andrew Thomas lesson to be learned 916 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: on this one. Right, So I did not think, and 917 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: I still don't think, he's an elite bender, elite change 918 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: of direction. But he's enormous, He's incredibly long, he's powerful. 919 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: Now here's the key I talked about the FBI. Right, 920 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 2: he's very football smart and he's tough. If you if 921 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: you have size, length, smarts, and toughness, you're gonna figure 922 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: it out. And you saw it. He struggled mightily early 923 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 2: and then he's got better every year and played really 924 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: really well this past year. So Andrew Thomas is, you know, 925 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 2: was the fourth overall pick. He was my eighteenth player. 926 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: You know, I did not I did not see at 927 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 2: that time that he would be playing as well as 928 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: he has. And uh, and that's the lesson that I've 929 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: learned from that evaluation, is that when you have the size, 930 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 2: the length, the toughness, the intelligence, you'll get by he'll 931 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 2: be fine. 932 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 933 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's such a hard position, uh, sometimes to 934 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: project because you just don't know. And sometimes fit matters 935 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: going to the right program, being asked to do stuff 936 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: in this game that plays to the strips. 937 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: Uh. 938 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: He's been solid enough for the Giants to be able 939 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: to put together an offense line that got them to 940 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 941 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 2: All right, here we go another one. Here. This is 942 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you what it's. I'll say this. 943 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: It's an early round. Okay, early round. This is a 944 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 2: running back. He was five oh seven two two oh seven. 945 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,959 Speaker 2: He ran four to six flat short compact FBI off 946 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: the charts. His quarterback said, this is the best player 947 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: on a star studded offense, excellent leg drive, he's outstanding 948 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 2: in the past. Game has some Austin Eckler to him, 949 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: and he is not living. 950 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: Let's go c e H clyde erwis how about that? 951 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 3: Got that one's done? 952 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: You got that one? What's the lesson here? Back? What's 953 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: the lesson on that one? I'll open the floor to 954 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: you on that one. 955 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: You know, dj I. 956 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, the funny thing is, I don't know because 957 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at claudews her lot and I 958 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: don't know why it hasn't worked for him with the 959 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, because in college he could do all 960 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: those things. Now, I would say I didn't necessarily view 961 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: him as a first round talent, but I thought he 962 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: would be a functional UH player in a rotation. And 963 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you know it doesn't matter even though you're taking 964 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: thirty second something about that first round tag. The expectations 965 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: become lofty, where maybe if he's the second round, you 966 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: don't have the same thing he just it just has. 967 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't know why it hasn't worked out for him. 968 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: And can say, can I give you my theory on 969 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: that one? So four six flat right, so fast? You're small. Now, 970 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: if you think of the small guys that have been successful, 971 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: Darren Sproles could fly. Yeah, MJD could fly. I mean 972 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about short guys, you know, because he's two 973 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: o seven, he was sturdy. He just to me, the 974 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: undersized guys, it's hard to be like you always always say, 975 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: like you're going to be small, you got a little 976 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 2: magic to you, Like he can't he can't. 977 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 3: Be tim be small and slow. Yeah, So I. 978 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: Think that's maybe a lesson you can take from that one. 979 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we. 980 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: Always talk about like what's the superpower? So what was 981 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: going to be a super power to help him overcome 982 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: whatever the physical deficiency was. And so if we're saying 983 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: four to six, oh, he doesn't have the ability to 984 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: separate or create space, it's all right. Especially when you're 985 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: the first round pick, you coming in with a lot 986 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: of expectations. People want to see the wow factor. And 987 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's not a while back, but if he was 988 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: a player taken like and this is different, but remember 989 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: when James White came into the league from Wisconsin. He's 990 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: been a really was a really good player for the 991 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 1: Patriots for a long time. But because he was under 992 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: the radar entering the league, anything you got from him 993 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: was like a bit of a bonus, whereas whereas if 994 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: he's taken higher, maybe you sour on him because like, yeah, 995 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: but he can't do X, Y and dis, so you 996 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: start looking for things that he can't do, as opposed 997 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: to appreciating some of the things that he can do. 998 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Austin Eckler ran really fast. 999 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean I think about even a guy like Philip 1000 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: Lindsay had a short shelf life but had some had 1001 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: some production. 1002 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: He was fast. Like, yeah, a lot of these. 1003 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Undersized guys that make it have juice. You gotta have 1004 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: some juice there, and I don't know that he had that. 1005 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: And I mentioned that I didn't mention the quarterback's name, 1006 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: but you know, Burrow was telling he told everybody. He's like, oh, 1007 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 2: I remember that he is the best player on our team. 1008 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is Jamar Chase justin Jefferson. 1009 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 3: Like made go. He made it go. 1010 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: And you would think in an offense that has talent 1011 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: like that in the pros and a quarterback back there, 1012 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: that he would be able. 1013 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 3: To kind of slither and slide and skate and. 1014 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: Get thought the chiefs of any place you're going to go. 1015 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: I thought the chiefs will figure it out with him. 1016 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, hasn't working. 1017 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: And you see a guy like Isaaca, Isaiah Proteco chi me. 1018 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: Come right in and make make plays. This disappointing. 1019 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully he can find a way to kind of muscle 1020 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: some of the last couple of years, and in Kansas 1021 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: City because he was a really good college player. 1022 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. All right, Buck, that's all I got 1023 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: for today. Anything else you want to add before we 1024 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: jump out of here? 1025 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 3: No, man, this is always fun. 1026 00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 1027 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: Next time when we have the draft, the linebacker draft, 1028 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I get clearance on all my guys. 1029 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was part of the deal, you know what 1030 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean. You got to make the phone call, make 1031 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: sure they're still alive. It's just it's just the way 1032 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 2: that it is. 1033 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: Man. 1034 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: You gotta do you know, I gotta do a little more. 1035 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: You gotta do more research you know on that in 1036 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: terms of what position these guys play. Maybe give the 1037 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: bill a buzz in between now and our next episode. 1038 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: So if you can get them cleared through customs, like 1039 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 2: you get your linebackers through customs, get them cleared. 1040 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, get it. 1041 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: Make sure make sure they have everything that they need 1042 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: so I can make sure that their linebackers are not 1043 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: linebackers that play on the edge, and so they. 1044 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: Get seventy eight. I mean, hey, you know what I mean. 1045 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 2: The Bill came with facts. He wasn't gonna take that abuse. 1046 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: He was like, you know who's gonna call to this 1047 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 2: dand Bill Smith from next year. That's it all right, 1048 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: But that was fun. Man enjoyed it. I hope you 1049 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: guys enjoyed hanging with us here. We'll be back next 1050 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: week with a couple more episodes. We'll see you then 1051 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: right here on both the 1052 00:45:52,080 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 4: Sticks sense attaint