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He 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: has been affiliated with a small start up shop Stanford 33 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: Law School and went on to provide valuable perspective at 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: the Hoover Institution as well as director of Domestic Policy Studies. 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: One M. Rubio has been wise enough to select his 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: wisdom and Lonnie chen Uh is with us this morning 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: as a Rubio policy advisor. Dr chen good morning. When 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I look at Marco Rubio on Fox last night, basically 39 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: sweating bullets, trying to get organized and to move forward. 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: What will be your advice to get to Michigan, to 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: get to his Florida, and to get to the convention. Well, 42 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: good morning, It's very kindy to have me on, and 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind introduction. I think that this race 44 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: is just getting started, and I really believe that because 45 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: we're headed toward a part of the race where all 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: the delegates going to be selected in winner take all 47 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: basis rather than a proportional basis, and ultimately, at the 48 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: end of the day, the race is about delegates. So 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think Senor Rubio is gonna focused on 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: March five team. You talked about it a little bit 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: this morning, your previous segment with Florida primary March fifteen. 52 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of big states that happened after 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: March fifteen, and so, you know, while obviously he's some 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump had a good night last night, 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: the reality is that the delegate gap between Marco Rubio 56 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump is only about under delegates. And so 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: we move into the next phase in the campaign. There 58 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: are some really big prizes starting with Florida that we're 59 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: focused on, so that that, I think is the thing 60 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: that people need to remain focused on and to think 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: about carefully as we move forward in this race. You 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: look at the polls, the real clear average for the 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: Poles in Florida shows Trump with about a twenty point 64 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: lead over Marco Rubio. How do you close that gap 65 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: if you're twenty points behind in your home state right now? Well, 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: let me off the couple of observation. First of all, 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio has done well in Florida. Obviously, He's represented 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the state of Florida in the United Events for the 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: last several years. As a network and an infrastructure that 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the campaign building in Florida that we feel very comfortable with. 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: The Other element of this is, you know, two weeks 72 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: in politics is an eternity, and if you look just 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: at what happened the last couple of days with Senator 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Review Billy aggressively drawing that contract with Donald Trump, he 75 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: was able to have some particularly late deciders last night. 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: We feel that as the real Donald Trump continues to 77 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: be exposed here over the next couple of weeks, that 78 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: people are going to be looking to send a review 79 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: as the alternative. And so what we plan to do 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks is to very aggressively 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: contrast with Senator Review would do as president with really 82 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: the lack of any policy vision, the real policy vision 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: McDonald Trump is offering. So we think that contract is 84 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: going to be very state pipple to send Rivio over 85 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: these next few weeks. Lenny Chen, if Mark Arubio gets 86 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: to Cleveland July eighteen to one, he's gonna get up 87 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: on the podium. And my guess is he's got to 88 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: speak to even people from Taiwan like yourself, with the 89 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: immigration disaster that is your party. How does he keep 90 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: the party faithful who seems so anti immigration and yet 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: speak to your parents? Well, you know, I think there's 92 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: a couple of things. You know, immigration is a very 93 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: challenging you see, there's no question about it. And if 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: he is that repeatedly, Uh, what we have to do 95 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: with this issue is we had to think about it 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: inspects and what the Republican Party with the base and 97 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: what most Republicans want. I think a lot of Americans 98 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: want us to be on even just Republicans, if they 99 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: want to feel like there's an integrity or country's borders, 100 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: and that is something that has to be focused on first, 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: but then beyond that, and they are all sorts of 102 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: different things that have to be done first to ensure 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: that that happens. You know, whether it's ensuring that we're 104 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: properly avoiding visa overstays, were properly enforcing some kind of 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: employer verification system, those are all important predicates any discussion regarding, uh, 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, what ought to be done with people who 107 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: are currently here as the illegal immigrants. So that is 108 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: something that kind of a review said that that's the 109 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: policy side of it. There's also, frankly, a tonal part 110 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: of this discussion as well, which is does this candidate 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: understand where America is headed and what's going to be 112 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: necessary to continue to grow our economy and continue to 113 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: welcome people here as America has for over two centuries, 114 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: And that is something that's going to review. Has repeatedly 115 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: gone on the campaign trail again. I think back to 116 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: South Carolina when you saw on stage Marco review Kim Scott, 117 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Nafrican American Senator from South Carolina, Nicki Haley, the government 118 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: of South Carolina, who is partially as Asian center and 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: thought of Asian descent as well. Uh, you know, that's 120 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: a very powerful intention. I think that's something that Senator 121 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: Review believes the future of the Republican Party, and that 122 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: is something that speaks very strongly both the people who 123 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: are of immigrant decided well of the people who've been 124 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: in America for several generations. Listening to your talk, I 125 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: reminded of what our friend Stan Collinder the surveillance budget 126 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: Maven says to me often on the show. But Michael, 127 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: you're talking logically there, Lonnie, you're talking logically there. Does 128 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: it occur to you? I mean, what do you guys 129 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: talk about when you sit in the in the in 130 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the Privy councils with the Senator and his campaign staff 131 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: in terms of a campaign where people don't care what 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: you just said. They don't care if the candidates platform 133 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: makes sense. They don't care. If he's racist, they don't care. 134 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: If he's misogynists, he's just loud, he's angry, They're angry, 135 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: and they support him anyways. In other words, if if 136 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the campaign doesn't make sense, how do you fight it? Well, 137 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good question. I think what has 138 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: happened to date is that Frankly, most people don't understand 139 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: what the what the Donald Trump record is, who he is. 140 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: And there's been some of this, I get back, there's 141 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: been some of the some of the reasons why Donald 142 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Trump is a problematic candidate and will be a problematic president, 143 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: whether it's all the stuff around as a fraud around 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: some university, uh you know, or is usually we learners 145 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: to build buildings and all that stuff is sort of 146 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: out there in the news, but it really had not 147 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: been uh, sort of delivered to people in a way 148 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: that is it both consistent and sustained. And what we 149 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: feel is once people hear more about Donald Trump in 150 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: a real consistent, same way, not just not just that 151 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: stuff personal back front, but also just his utter lack 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: of ideas in terms of how to put forward. Uh, 153 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: that's been a problem for the Loney In the minute 154 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: that we've got left with you very quickly, how do 155 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: you link your policy world to the world of raising money. 156 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: It's no secret that Mr Rubio needs to raise a 157 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: potload of money to get to Cleveland. How do you 158 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: link your world to bring it in the Bacon. Well, 159 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the answer is simple, which is that we share with 160 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: people with Senator Rubio's vision and their bonding to that vision. 161 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, they've got a lot of questions about policy 162 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: and either good questions without health care, about the economy, 163 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: about foreign policy, and the answer is to share with 164 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: them that vision. So if they understand with the Rubio 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: would stand for, uh and and and to be ready 166 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: to tell them about the specific plans he has, which 167 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: our plans that we don't believe any other candidate does. 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Let's leave with their Lanchan thank you so much with 169 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: the Rubio campaign of senior adviser to Mr Rubio, of 170 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: course very importantly, Mike moving on from Michigan. Michigan comes 171 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: up in a week. It is a key primary, and 172 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: at this point I'm just looking at again the real 173 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: Clear politics consensus average, and Donald try up is twenty 174 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: points up there as well. Uh so, Yeah, as Lonnie 175 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: says that two weeks is a long time in politics, 176 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: they've got a week where there's a good chance the 177 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: story will be dominated by Trump winning again. We've got 178 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: a three days getting to the job's report. We will 179 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: do economics for you. In the state of the American 180 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: labor economy, it's been better than good recently, and maybe 181 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: not as big a campaign issue. As someone have suggested, 182 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: weird Dan Mackie talk about a four percent unemployment rate 183 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: somewhere in the vicinity, Mr Mackie. 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It takes 192 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: one thousand, two hundred thirty seven delegates to win the 193 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Republican nomination. Clinton has at least a thousand five delegates overall, 194 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: and it will take two thousand, three three Democratic delegates 195 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: to win the party's nomination. A powerful earthquake hit off 196 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: the southwestern coast of Sumatra in Indonesia today. There is 197 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: a concern that it could trigger a tsunami. There were 198 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: no immediate reports of injuries or damage. According to the 199 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: u S Geological Survey. The earthquake had a preliminary magnitude 200 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: of seven point eight. 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