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Speaker 1: Podcast play Around. Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast.

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Speaker 1: The host is having a good time. You will too.

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Speaker 1: I love it, David. Thank you. Today our guest is

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Cedano, an actress and director. She's been in TV

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Speaker 1: shows like Cruel, Summer, Taken, and Ballers. She's the daughter

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Speaker 1: of Donna Summer, and she's just directed a new documentary

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Speaker 1: called Love to You Donna Summer on HBO. We'll join

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Cedano next on Taking a Walk.

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Speaker 2: Hello Brooklyn, Hi, Bud, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm excellent. Thank you for being on Taking a Walk,

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Speaker 1: albeit virtually, but thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the documentary. Tell us about the process that

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Speaker 1: led to the creation of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it started about seven years ago, from

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Speaker 3: the very beginning, and you know, I went to my

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Speaker 3: father was like, you know, there's so much I think

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Speaker 3: that people don't really know about my mom. And I

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Speaker 3: had just become a mother and was processing her not

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Speaker 3: being there and you know, having people come up and

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Speaker 3: share their stories, and I just felt like there was

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Speaker 3: a really great opportunity to have a film that really

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Speaker 3: was reflective of her in all of her facets, not

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Speaker 3: just the persona that people you know, the icon, the

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Speaker 3: the you know, the buzzwords that people kind of gravitate towards,

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Speaker 3: but she really was an artist and a really complex woman,

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Speaker 3: and I felt like it was really important for the

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Speaker 3: world to be able to see.

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Speaker 1: That, well, your mother was a trailblazer really in the

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Speaker 1: music industry. What's her legacy and you know, how do

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Speaker 1: you hope to continue to showcase her work?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think the film is one of the ways

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Speaker 3: we are able to really move her legacy forward and

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Speaker 3: allow people to really in knowing who she really was

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Speaker 3: as an artist. I think there's a deeper level of

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Speaker 3: understanding of respect for what's her contributions to music, to culture.

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Speaker 3: I mean, electronic dance music was created with her, Pipilotti

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Speaker 3: and Giorgio Moroder with I Feel Love. Electronic dance music

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Speaker 3: is pop music these days, and so I think that

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Speaker 3: her legacy continues to move forward through the music formats

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Speaker 3: and you know, style and fashion, and I think this

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Speaker 3: film is just kind of bringing awareness to all of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you come from a you know, a family with

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Speaker 3: Well, my sister Amanda says in the film, it was

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Speaker 3: like living in a musical you know, everything in our

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Speaker 3: family was about creation. My dad, Brusudano, is a songwriter

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Speaker 3: and a singer and artist him self, and my mother

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Speaker 3: was paint and so you know, everything was a creative endeavor.

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Speaker 3: And so that's how my sisters and I we all.

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Speaker 2: Live our lives in some kind of creative way. And

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Speaker 3: For us been very rich and just felt normal that

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Speaker 3: we would try to always be in this mode of

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Speaker 3: of it, as something wonderful and to be expressed. And so,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think I counted as a great blessing

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Speaker 3: that foundation in my own life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're just in the family business basically.

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Speaker 1: Well, your mom's music, it was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I think my mom had this very

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Speaker 3: it often that she felt that she heard the audible

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Speaker 2: Gonna you have a gift.

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Speaker 3: Use it well, you know, you're gonna be famous. So

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Speaker 1: What was it like for you pouring through her archives.

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Speaker 2: It was like finding a treasure chest.

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Speaker 3: It was such a blessing to be able to you know,

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Speaker 3: my mom was an early adopter on technology, so she

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Speaker 3: and doing these backstage skits with her bandmates in the nineteen,

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Speaker 1: During that period, I think it's fair to say Boston

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Speaker 1: and the area was, you know, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of racism. Can you talk about that perspective and how

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Speaker 1: I think your mom looked at that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think my mother viewed it. It was

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Speaker 2: She was in a band called The Crow, which was

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Speaker 3: Band at the age of like sixteen or seventeen, and

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Speaker 3: something that she was wishing, you know, willing to push

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Speaker 1: Does it blow your mind thinking that she really kicked

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's one of the things that

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Speaker 3: really understanding all that she did, all that she recorded

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Speaker 2: At how much she was able to do and accomplished as.

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Speaker 1: You've had success as an actress and a singer. How

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Speaker 3: You know, for me, I feel like they're all Even

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Speaker 3: with directing this film, it's all storytelling and it's just different.

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Speaker 2: It's just a different way of telling a story.

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Speaker 3: It's a different way of owning a character or a persona,

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Speaker 3: for me, my singing has really happened through being an actress.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'll do it because it's such a natural part.

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Speaker 1: What philanthropic causes were important to your mom and which

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Speaker 3: You know my mom always uh gave to the Salvation

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Speaker 2: Mostly for me.

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Speaker 3: It's like mother and children there's like Alexandra House in

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Speaker 1: How has the industry evolved? What changes do you sort

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Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: But sometimes it is harder to you know, you can

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Speaker 3: There's just so much content, but it also is also

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Speaker 2: Obviously, there's a writer strike going on in.

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Speaker 3: Hollywood, and the DGA and the Bag act also have

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Speaker 3: But you know, I do think that it is becoming

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Speaker 3: a little too unequal and that we have to.

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Speaker 2: We have to reset.

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Speaker 3: We have to reset the system because artists are not

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Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you hear your mom's

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Speaker 2: I was getting on.

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, Okay, Hi Mom.

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Speaker 3: So for me, it's just an acknowledgment that she's still

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet. What would your mom think of this project?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think she would be really proud.

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Speaker 3: I growing up, my mom would always tease me and

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Speaker 3: So I think she would just get a kick out

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Speaker 2: Would be on her.

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Speaker 3: And so, you know, I definitely feel like I've been

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Speaker 1: Is there one thing you learned with this project that

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Speaker 3: H You know, I think it just enhanced what I

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Speaker 3: you know, I have a deep appreciation for the sacrifices.

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Speaker 2: She made to be successful.

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Speaker 3: And you know, and there was sometimes ramifications for that.

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Speaker 3: You know, my older sister Mimi had to live with

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Speaker 2: I's life because we had more of my mom.

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Speaker 3: Because she was at a different point of her career

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a glow about you about this project obviously,

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Speaker 1: and I want to congratulate you on the documentary Love

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Speaker 1: to Love Token this summer, Brooklyn. Thank you for being on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

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